I think that's why House of Commons broadcasts feel more normal than Senate / Congress one; they're both using flowery language, but the former is more likely to have people interrupt or give reactions in the background like any normal person would.
im more surprised the uk gov were so willing to let their prime minister be portrayed like such an incompetent comically sexist idiot in their actual government buildings. maybe not surprised but endlessly disappointed nonetheless
It would actually be an interesting module to create for UK schools. Take a few TV shows that have covered a few different government departments and give young people an overview of how government really works. It would help young people with their civic duties and understandings as to why things are the way their are etc.
I completely agree that the precise facts are less important than portraying this kind of service to country as valuable and important, if not always exciting. Great insight and interview, thanks 🙏
As a retired member of the US Foreign Service, the Foreign Secretary’s take on the Diplomat showed a fun commentary on how diplomats and viewers should view this show. There are elements which must offer realism and truth and there are elements which need a bit of ‘context cooking’ and over the top drama to make the show sing as a great TV show. The Diplomat has the perfect mix. As for the appeal of Foreign Secretary Cleverly vs. David Gyasi, I think it’s a toss up as to who takes the lead on handsome and charming.
experimental? There is no mix. Pure Documentation. Its fascinating, how Crowdstrike shows us the deepnies about always having a handsome bag full of tea. Not that a lot of us would love to see how america plays this year out. But as always, its a game of crowns. So context cooking would be, to fill the Welfen bag with angelsaxons tea. Instead of having enough cookies to enjoy the american year.
Because it could go down the other way. If Crowdstrike wasnt a strikebreaker, and the other Side of the Documentation plays stupid, there never was a experimental thing in common. Just some dudes who have texted a lot about a szenario, whithout more than playing it thourgh. If Crowdstrike wasnt die Code-Founding Use of ChatGTP to update the Intel 486I and having an issue about middle europeans young historic problems, instead of cleaning up the problem, it would take years to zertifcate the dudes, because in that case, the state of the dudes has a lot to explain. More than a lot. Because one of the dudes shouldnt be getting out of the security footage of society. When i would be one of the dudes .... *Tom Baker laugh* ... i would prefer to play stupid this days. Its enough how we get to Assange and how the game of roses has lost control. When we ask the americans, the experiemtal part cant end, because, we use its since 20 years.
Oh, he goes to lots of places, at great public expense, and to no good effect other than to make himself look good. Dude thinks he's a rock star. Pathetic.
James cleverly has just been beaten in the penultimate round of the Tory leadership race. Now that the party has swung to the right and will lose the next election (a guess) he might be there to pick up the pieces at the following election as a more moderate conservative.
They used to be called ministries, the shift overtime was towards being called departments (with some retain the moniker _'office'_ and others for traditions sake retaining _'ministry'_ like the Ministry of Justice and Ministry of Defence). Also, the UK does not have a federal political structure, so no such 'federal departments' exist.
The short answer is there’s no rhyme or reason to it and you can call the departments “department,” “department,” “office,” “ministry” as a prefix or suffix or even use “department of state for” as a prefix. The department heads can be called “secretary,” “minister,” or “secretary of state” (though minister is technically incorrect).
The UK is a unitary executive so they dont have federal departments. Their cabinet bodies can be called Offices, Ministries or Departments. The Cabinet head of the body is called the Secretary of State for X. I.e. the Ministry of Transport is headed by the Secretary of State for Transport, and the Northern Ireland Office is headed by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Ministers are junior cabinet members under the Secretaries typically responsible for specific policy areas, for example under the Home Office, led by the Home Secretary, there is a Minister of State for Crime and Policing, who is also subordinate to the Ministry of Justice. Finally, "Permanent Under-secretaries of State", or typically just "Permanent Secretaries" are the highest grade of Civil Servant, and as career civil servants are not inherently political appointees, in that the PM cant remove them at will, but between them and an independent body a PS will be chosen. They are tasked with the day to day operations of their department or responsible area.
Dimpy Saganee works against violence towards women but signed an Egyptian petition vilifying Israel and rejecting the overwhelming proof of mass rapes on October 7.
Netflix should move beyond the bonhomie vibe of Western European missions and delve into the Real Deal experiences and challenges faced by US diplomats... portraying missions in the Middle East, Central Asia, Russia, and China!
Russia: no diplomacy at all taking place, so that would be boring. China: also none, next. Central Asia: a perfect example of how routine diplomacy is supposed to work, so like an Office take of the Diplomat? Has potential. Middle East: that's been done very well multiple times, showing the richness of the mix of power politics, corruption, and business.
The US ambassador definitely doesn't have carte blanche access to the Foreign Secretary. Of course as one of their closest allies, the ambassador could likely get access to the Foreign Secretary very quickly if necessary, but they certainly cannot stroll in and say "I'll have that one please, chop chop"
First off, it's a bloody fictional TV show, not a documentary. Second, compression of events is critical or the show becomes boooooring. Not going to see the actual protocols used because they are booooring. Can't devote 25 minutes of a 50 minute episode to all the nit noisy players involved in setting up meetings. Boooooring. Third, if Kate Wyler was already a PAS in the DoS (or any Federal agency) then under the Federal Vacancies Act of 1998 POTUS absolutely has the authority to send her to London "in a couple of days".
Foreign Secretary not realising this is a fictional TV series. A series that has to make obvious compromises regarding locations and sets. Compromises on content is a given it being fictional, My only real concern is that the Foreign Secretary regards this as a good use of his time. That last explains more than perhaps he had wished.
You, not realizing that at the end of the video the Foreign secretary said that the show is not about being accurate, it is about being exiting and that the show is a good fun.
Cringe. Pathetic. Humiliation. Someone tell him he represents the British peoples the world over. He can be a tool if he wants on his own time. Salisbury once held this office, back when Britain won its wars.
I love that both the British Foreign Secretary and US State Department put out their own reaction vids of the show!
me too,
yes, & both used it as an opp to openly recruit
I don't love it. Those f***ers should stick to doing their jobs.
@@zeffiraananas3999why ? Nobody wants to join government??
or was it orchestrated... lmao
"The Foreign Secretary's a good looking fellow, so that's probably...thats spot-on, actually..."
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The Diplomat may not be completely factually accurate, but can we appreciate how great the writing and acting is?
Fantastic show.
@@Shawn_Kelleyhow so? Why?
@chance258 Well written, produced and acted. Very entertaining.
@@Shawn_Kelleyare you a diplomat? Or work in international relations area?
(it is not)
I'd love more of these types of vids with ministers... it humanises them!
Unfortunately, some of them are not very humanised…
Almost but not quite -it gives the false impression that they're human to gullible real humans. That's the point.
I think that's why House of Commons broadcasts feel more normal than Senate / Congress one; they're both using flowery language, but the former is more likely to have people interrupt or give reactions in the background like any normal person would.
agree
That was a very cool transition at the end. Fairplay
I’m surprised they were able to film in the real locations
We need all the cash we can get
im more surprised the uk gov were so willing to let their prime minister be portrayed like such an incompetent comically sexist idiot in their actual government buildings. maybe not surprised but endlessly disappointed nonetheless
It would actually be an interesting module to create for UK schools. Take a few TV shows that have covered a few different government departments and give young people an overview of how government really works. It would help young people with their civic duties and understandings as to why things are the way their are etc.
This is such a good idea. I remember being a teen with no idea any of these occupations existed!
Excellent idea!
If "Yes, minister" was on the School curriculum, soon you'd have a revolution on your hands 😅
I completely agree that the precise facts are less important than portraying this kind of service to country as valuable and important, if not always exciting. Great insight and interview, thanks 🙏
They should do more of these with Ministers. Neeeeerd!.
As a retired member of the US Foreign Service, the Foreign Secretary’s take on the Diplomat showed a fun commentary on how diplomats and viewers should view this show. There are elements which must offer realism and truth and there are elements which need a bit of ‘context cooking’ and over the top drama to make the show sing as a great TV show. The Diplomat has the perfect mix. As for the appeal of Foreign Secretary Cleverly vs. David Gyasi, I think it’s a toss up as to who takes the lead on handsome and charming.
experimental? There is no mix. Pure Documentation. Its fascinating, how Crowdstrike shows us the deepnies about always having a handsome bag full of tea. Not that a lot of us would love to see how america plays this year out. But as always, its a game of crowns. So context cooking would be, to fill the Welfen bag with angelsaxons tea. Instead of having enough cookies to enjoy the american year.
Because it could go down the other way. If Crowdstrike wasnt a strikebreaker, and the other Side of the Documentation plays stupid, there never was a experimental thing in common. Just some dudes who have texted a lot about a szenario, whithout more than playing it thourgh. If Crowdstrike wasnt die Code-Founding Use of ChatGTP to update the Intel 486I and having an issue about middle europeans young historic problems, instead of cleaning up the problem, it would take years to zertifcate the dudes, because in that case, the state of the dudes has a lot to explain. More than a lot. Because one of the dudes shouldnt be getting out of the security footage of society.
When i would be one of the dudes .... *Tom Baker laugh* ... i would prefer to play stupid this days. Its enough how we get to Assange and how the game of roses has lost control. When we ask the americans, the experiemtal part cant end, because, we use its since 20 years.
Chatgpt comment
Great idea. Thank you for providing a reality check
The acting and the writing are really good.
Where is Sir Humphrey hovering in the background
He’s the Foreign Secretary, can somebody get him a pair of eyewear that fits
Top comment!
The actor is doing a better job than James Cleverly in my opinion! 😮
Not hard tbh 😂
He's acting
He did ok in my book. He did not take any crap from the russians and tried to maintain the funding for ukraine.
This man is amazing, he always give a very diplomatic answers. If he keep up those charisma i think he is defintely going places.
Oh, he goes to lots of places, at great public expense, and to no good effect other than to make himself look good. Dude thinks he's a rock star. Pathetic.
Not when his party is going to Opposition next year
James cleverly has just been beaten in the penultimate round of the Tory leadership race. Now that the party has swung to the right and will lose the next election (a guess) he might be there to pick up the pieces at the following election as a more moderate conservative.
So in the UK federal departments are called ministries but they call the cabinet ministers secretaries?
They used to be called ministries, the shift overtime was towards being called departments (with some retain the moniker _'office'_ and others for traditions sake retaining _'ministry'_ like the Ministry of Justice and Ministry of Defence). Also, the UK does not have a federal political structure, so no such 'federal departments' exist.
@@JKLoans Isn't Uk follows unitary structure ?
The short answer is there’s no rhyme or reason to it and you can call the departments “department,” “department,” “office,” “ministry” as a prefix or suffix or even use “department of state for” as a prefix. The department heads can be called “secretary,” “minister,” or “secretary of state” (though minister is technically incorrect).
The UK is a unitary executive so they dont have federal departments.
Their cabinet bodies can be called Offices, Ministries or Departments.
The Cabinet head of the body is called the Secretary of State for X.
I.e. the Ministry of Transport is headed by the Secretary of State for Transport, and the Northern Ireland Office is headed by the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.
Ministers are junior cabinet members under the Secretaries typically responsible for specific policy areas, for example under the Home Office, led by the Home Secretary, there is a Minister of State for Crime and Policing, who is also subordinate to the Ministry of Justice.
Finally, "Permanent Under-secretaries of State", or typically just "Permanent Secretaries" are the highest grade of Civil Servant, and as career civil servants are not inherently political appointees, in that the PM cant remove them at will, but between them and an independent body a PS will be chosen. They are tasked with the day to day operations of their department or responsible area.
Civil servants are apolitical and will remain in their jobs when there is a change of government.
Dimpy Saganee works against violence towards women but signed an Egyptian petition vilifying Israel and rejecting the overwhelming proof of mass rapes on October 7.
Netflix should move beyond the bonhomie vibe of Western European missions and delve into the Real Deal experiences and challenges faced by US diplomats... portraying missions in the Middle East, Central Asia, Russia, and China!
Nice film about diplomacy on netflix: Sergio
"...delve into the Real Deal...US diplomats..."??? You want the truth? ..."You can't handle the truth!"
Russia: no diplomacy at all taking place, so that would be boring. China: also none, next. Central Asia: a perfect example of how routine diplomacy is supposed to work, so like an Office take of the Diplomat? Has potential. Middle East: that's been done very well multiple times, showing the richness of the mix of power politics, corruption, and business.
This was incredibly fun to watch.
This one is sharp as a tack!
Thank you! Wonderful video, Mr. Secretary!
The show made it seem really exciting. Just graduated from college too.
Agreed, turns out the foreign on the show and IRL are both good looking chaps
Actually this British Foreign Secy. looks a lot like the actor who plays the Secy. of State in the show.
Exciting but not exact. that's why it is a fiction show inspired by reality.
Enjoyed watching sir, looking forward in meeting you again in Berlin at some point. B.S.
Brilliant! 👌🏼
Is there a hidden back staircase to the Foreign Secretary's office? I think not!
Wonderful insight Sire haha
Brilliant!
Wonderful video. I love this.
This is nice. Now, where is my ATAS
That was more fun than the show.
Imagine them reacting to Ambassadors
The Special Relationship. May it last forever.
Erm, the US ambassador Katherine Wyler, emphasis on US, can stroll into the Foreign Secretary's office at FCDO whenever she pleases.
The US ambassador definitely doesn't have carte blanche access to the Foreign Secretary. Of course as one of their closest allies, the ambassador could likely get access to the Foreign Secretary very quickly if necessary, but they certainly cannot stroll in and say "I'll have that one please, chop chop"
background music?
weeeeeeeeee amooooo estas reacciones!!! Secretary James Cleverly, i´m a diplomatat cooking chef and i would like to work with you!!!!
Tbf the lest accrate bit is the minister not being switched due to some Tory party nonsenses
WTF - why has he got time to do this? and was he paid? ridiculous
Iranian ambassador ?
Great video.
Fake vs Real Foreign Secretary
Thank you.
First off, it's a bloody fictional TV show, not a documentary. Second, compression of events is critical or the show becomes boooooring. Not going to see the actual protocols used because they are booooring. Can't devote 25 minutes of a 50 minute episode to all the nit noisy players involved in setting up meetings. Boooooring. Third, if Kate Wyler was already a PAS in the DoS (or any Federal agency) then under the Federal Vacancies Act of 1998 POTUS absolutely has the authority to send her to London "in a couple of days".
Almost as interesting as the series !!
good idea
Ha
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is that not a waste of time for the foreign secretary at this highly challenging time?
Sure is. All part of his endless, rolling, personal propaganda mission.
W Video
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Sorry but you have nothing more pressing / urgent to do at the FO? Good to know..
What on Earth is this? Embarrassing
Has this guy got nothing better to do?! Let’s get these amateurs out of office. The Tories are a joke at this point.
Took time out from sucking tax payer money to be cringe
Well that was the most banal bit of PR and self promotion a FS has ever been misadvised to partake in.
Foreign Secretary not realising this is a fictional TV series. A series that has to make obvious compromises regarding locations and sets. Compromises on content is a given it being fictional, My only real concern is that the Foreign Secretary regards this as a good use of his time. That last explains more than perhaps he had wished.
You, not realizing that at the end of the video the Foreign secretary said that the show is not about being accurate, it is about being exiting and that the show is a good fun.
Hey, foreign and 'colonial' office stop trying to be human, you are not.
Cringe. Pathetic. Humiliation. Someone tell him he represents the British peoples the world over. He can be a tool if he wants on his own time. Salisbury once held this office, back when Britain won its wars.
is Britain at war?
the man with the most innapropriate surname ever........