I don't have any confirmation on this, but 2016 Topps Update All-Star SSPs are 1/1's as far as I know. I've seen only one copy of an Arenado and a Betts, they are both shown sitting in the bed of a truck.
They’re incredibly rare but not 1/1’s. There’s one Betts at PSA and I know if at least one raw one as well. Maybe 25 or so total? Whatever it is, they are hobby ghosts!
That’s kind of a stupid question to ask I mean honestly so the 1933 goudey set and the T206 set must be a waste of time then would because not all of them are rookie cards 🤔
We're talking Ultra Modern cards. You're right, Vintage and especially pre-war and tobacco issues are a different ballgame for sure. Thanks for watching.
None taken - it IS a little difficult to get all the correct, pertinent info across in a short title, but we’re trying. Thanks again for watching the channel and commenting!
I personally like cards that feature multiple hall of famers. The 2019 topps mookie/pujols, 2019 Harper/Freddie, 1995 pinnacle checklist with Griffey bagwell Frank Thomas piazza museum collection. All sp parallels
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin I’ve weirdly become not into autos as much. I have heard you guys mention we are in the junk auto era and I kind of agree. There are just so many I’m kind of fatigued by them. Like you guys I’m very much into SSP type stuff. I also like the non auto numbered bowman first stuff. I have mookies blue and purple bowman first non auto and they just pop
Great episode guys. I think a lot of general collectability is a weird combination of value, rarity, and liquidity, and rookies/rookie color seem to be the sweet spot right now. I personally love the super rare cards you guys have been sharing, but I would imagine the more you have to explain a card the less desirable it is to the general population
Think you are spot on with everything said here. A lack of awareness around the rarer cards limits their current wider appeal. Thanks for watching and the support!
Hey guys! Here to update you on that Orange Frank Thomas Auto/25 from topps chrome plat that I sent in for replacement due to a smudge auto.....well, they are replacing it straight up and have already sent it out. Just a different number on print!
I think this debate is going on a loop. Guys the way I see it is. For vintage collectors, psa has a set registry for rookie cards and playing days player sets. So Ryan collectors dont want an upper deck game used patch more than any of his playing days cards in psa holders because of the registry. Also, for modern guys is almost the same thing and more. The most important way to fill up the registry starts with the rookie card. Whether is a pop 30 or a pop 15K the rookie is still the card. And last yes, everyone is right, 2nd and 3rd year low numbered cards are more valuable sometimes more than the base rookies because they are low numbered and hard to find but they are also irrelevant for the set registries they mean nothing to psa. If Arenado has 100K collectors and theres a red /5 everyone is gonna have to pay more to be able to say “i own this card” as too the base rookie anyone can have it because they made more than 200K of them. So it has to be more expensive than the rookie.
Thanks for the response! Yes, the PSA registry is likely a big contributor to the desire for rookie cards. But that said, I know dozens of collectors who collect RCs (vintage and modern) who have nothing to do with the PSA registry. So I think it goes beyond the desire for a high score there. Maybe just a long-standing collector desire to have the FIRST 🤷🏻♂️
To me the poll questions were flawed, you are asking people to basically react to rookie vs non and color versus color or color vs variation. No mention of pop counts and prices. If something is more liquid but as a consequence more volatile because of print count, is that a good thing?
But yeah, it would be interesting to try it again with more information and see if it changes the voting at all. Lack of info/awareness is definitely a big issue in the hobby.
I started collecting gold cups on the side and it’s a lot of fun
Oh yeah! Love that idea -- you can get a lot of cool cards of star players without always breaking the bank. Thanks for sharing!
I don't have any confirmation on this, but 2016 Topps Update All-Star SSPs are 1/1's as far as I know. I've seen only one copy of an Arenado and a Betts, they are both shown sitting in the bed of a truck.
They’re incredibly rare but not 1/1’s. There’s one Betts at PSA and I know if at least one raw one as well.
Maybe 25 or so total? Whatever it is, they are hobby ghosts!
That’s kind of a stupid question to ask I mean honestly so the 1933 goudey set and the T206 set must be a waste of time then would because not all of them are rookie cards 🤔
We're talking Ultra Modern cards. You're right, Vintage and especially pre-war and tobacco issues are a different ballgame for sure. Thanks for watching.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin sorry I didn’t mean any disrespect by the comment but thank you for your reply. I appreciate it. I enjoy the channel.
None taken - it IS a little difficult to get all the correct, pertinent info across in a short title, but we’re trying. Thanks again for watching the channel and commenting!
I personally like cards that feature multiple hall of famers. The 2019 topps mookie/pujols, 2019 Harper/Freddie, 1995 pinnacle checklist with Griffey bagwell Frank Thomas piazza museum collection. All sp parallels
Nice examples! Yeah, I think Heritage is great for that, especially if you like dual autos.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbin I’ve weirdly become not into autos as much. I have heard you guys mention we are in the junk auto era and I kind of agree. There are just so many I’m kind of fatigued by them. Like you guys I’m very much into SSP type stuff. I also like the non auto numbered bowman first stuff. I have mookies blue and purple bowman first non auto and they just pop
Which version of the Betts/Pujols do u think is best?
I’ve tried every outlet and no word on the 2019 Topps chrome sapphire Harper Red /5 or super :(
I asked around to Harper guys I know. I'll throw it up in an IG story this week, too. Good luck on the hunt!
Was there a correlation between voters and time in the hobby?
Hard to say. IG polls are pretty unscientific 🤣Thanks for watching!
Great episode guys. I think a lot of general collectability is a weird combination of value, rarity, and liquidity, and rookies/rookie color seem to be the sweet spot right now. I personally love the super rare cards you guys have been sharing, but I would imagine the more you have to explain a card the less desirable it is to the general population
Think you are spot on with everything said here. A lack of awareness around the rarer cards limits their current wider appeal. Thanks for watching and the support!
Hey guys! Here to update you on that Orange Frank Thomas Auto/25 from topps chrome plat that I sent in for replacement due to a smudge auto.....well, they are replacing it straight up and have already sent it out. Just a different number on print!
that’s awesome! Great to hear and thanks for following up! 💪🏼
I think this debate is going on a loop. Guys the way I see it is. For vintage collectors, psa has a set registry for rookie cards and playing days player sets. So Ryan collectors dont want an upper deck game used patch more than any of his playing days cards in psa holders because of the registry. Also, for modern guys is almost the same thing and more. The most important way to fill up the registry starts with the rookie card. Whether is a pop 30 or a pop 15K the rookie is still the card. And last yes, everyone is right, 2nd and 3rd year low numbered cards are more valuable sometimes more than the base rookies because they are low numbered and hard to find but they are also irrelevant for the set registries they mean nothing to psa. If Arenado has 100K collectors and theres a red /5 everyone is gonna have to pay more to be able to say “i own this card” as too the base rookie anyone can have it because they made more than 200K of them. So it has to be more expensive than the rookie.
Thanks for the response! Yes, the PSA registry is likely a big contributor to the desire for rookie cards. But that said, I know dozens of collectors who collect RCs (vintage and modern) who have nothing to do with the PSA registry. So I think it goes beyond the desire for a high score there. Maybe just a long-standing collector desire to have the FIRST 🤷🏻♂️
Great video!
Thank you!
To me the poll questions were flawed, you are asking people to basically react to rookie vs non and color versus color or color vs variation. No mention of pop counts and prices. If something is more liquid but as a consequence more volatile because of print count, is that a good thing?
Bill, nothing I’ve ever done has been flawed!!
But yeah, it would be interesting to try it again with more information and see if it changes the voting at all.
Lack of info/awareness is definitely a big issue in the hobby.
Well done 🎉
Thanks for watching!
Fkn love you guys.
Thanks for coming along for the ride! 💪🏼