Getting Elected in Ancient Rome

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  • @112steinway
    @112steinway หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    Hi everyone! This is Matthew Blair, I'm the author of "Romanis Magicae" and this video's sponsor.
    I want to give another massive thank you to Dr. Ryan for his kind words and help in spreading the word about our little comic. Everyone involved in its creation has put a TON of time, effort, and passion into it and we're so happy that it's being shown to viewers like you who love and support learning and talking about ancient history.
    As the video said, the campaign is in its final days (it was a scheduling delay on my part) so if you want to check it out the clock is ticking, but we've got some cool rewards and behind the scenes stuff to make it worth your while. Also, we do offer copies of Dr. Ryan's books as rewards for anyone who might want to check out the books.

  • @johnofnz
    @johnofnz หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    It's amazing how much the world can change through time, yet aspects of human nature can stay almost exactly the same.

    • @SpaceReptilioid
      @SpaceReptilioid หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, they still reproduce by 5€X.

    • @SpaceReptilioid
      @SpaceReptilioid หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, they still reproduce by $€X.

    • @m.e.345
      @m.e.345 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sex for 5€! ..Count me in! 🤪

  • @TheImmortalArt
    @TheImmortalArt หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Your videos and themes are inspiration for me. Keep on!
    P.S.
    Just got your books.

    • @NickCharles-v2p
      @NickCharles-v2p หลายเดือนก่อน

      I need to get both of his books! I saw a few copies of one in Barnes and Noble one day.

  • @M00T3N
    @M00T3N หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Your mic has insane quality. What is it?
    Also I am so glad I found your channel man, you have a gift and the right mindset when it comes to covering this stuff.
    Concise and well researched!

  • @AffectiveApe
    @AffectiveApe หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Lovely presentation! My wife and I visited Rome in August and had a wonderful time. These videos are a fantastic educational resource!

  • @giacomoweil4547
    @giacomoweil4547 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Amazing graphics! I had to keep pausing to save them.

  • @Romalvx
    @Romalvx 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazingly clear content. Had it been available years ago, when the best you’d have was just a faded grainy photocopy, I would have been able to achieve a much higher grade in my Roman History exam.

  • @NemanorTheAlmighty
    @NemanorTheAlmighty 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This channel and your books are the lords work sir, thank you

  • @optomix3988
    @optomix3988 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really good video! I just really enjoy how ou present the information and have enjoyed your books as well.

  • @Danilyn_Livao
    @Danilyn_Livao หลายเดือนก่อน

    The break down the complexities of the political system and the election process gives such a great perspective on how power and influence worked back then. It’s so interesting to see how ancient politics shaped the way we think about leadership today. Great insight into this historical topic! 👍

  • @gardnep
    @gardnep หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Some things never change.

    • @SpaceReptilioid
      @SpaceReptilioid หลายเดือนก่อน

      Such as humans, still having 5€K5 to procreate.

  • @dawnfmEnthusiast
    @dawnfmEnthusiast หลายเดือนก่อน

    here from the Julian Dorey podcast. you were a super guest!

  • @kittyprydekissme
    @kittyprydekissme หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    If Tiberius ended the elections, then why was there still campaigning going on in Pompeii in 79 AD?

    • @firstlast5454
      @firstlast5454 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Maybe local campaigning?

    • @toldinstone
      @toldinstone  หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      He only ended elections in Rome, for the old Republican officials. Local elections continued for centuries.

    • @kittyprydekissme
      @kittyprydekissme หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@toldinstone Thank you. I've been wondering about this for some time. Everything I've ever read about Roman politics only covers the elections in Rome itself. But aside from an occasional mention that local elections existed, I've never seen anything about local governments. What kinds of offices did they have? Did they have the same wealth requirements as the offices in Rome? Did all cities have local elections or just some of them?
      Yay! Toldinstone replied to my question directly!

    • @TyrionLannister83
      @TyrionLannister83 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking the same thing. Robin Lane Fox mentions in Pagans and Christians that roman cities in Africa (or maybe it was Asia) still had elections as late as the 4th century. I wonder what happened to the rest. When did Athens stop having elections?

    • @historyrepeat402
      @historyrepeat402 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kittyprydekissme if you can think about it like the US government, imagine the governors and senators of states who come from Washington DC to establish offices and policies based on the necessities in that place, then that trickles down further to local councils, legislators, and officials. Like a superintendent of schools in a state, local superintendent, then the principals, the teachers, and finally parents/students

  • @qboxer
    @qboxer หลายเดือนก่อน

    An excellent summary of the Roman political system. Well done.

  • @ROMANTIKILLER2
    @ROMANTIKILLER2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    An oligarchy with democratic tendencies ruled by the rich and powerfull, where the candidates tell people what they want to hear... that sounds familiar.

  • @AlohaSnackbar-pc9gd
    @AlohaSnackbar-pc9gd หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Long live the Republic

  • @jennifertate4397
    @jennifertate4397 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting vid. Thanks.

  • @mathompson53187
    @mathompson53187 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    'Bribery of the electorate was rampant' ... some things never change.

  • @djm58sk
    @djm58sk หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    The US might also be described as "an oligarchy with suppressed democratic tendencies."

  • @StoicHumanist
    @StoicHumanist หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:19 the Ancient Roman version of lawn signs.

  • @AnthonyGentile-z2g
    @AnthonyGentile-z2g หลายเดือนก่อน

    Legislation was enacted by theTribal Assembly.
    The Centuriate Assembly was reformed sometime after 240BC "to be more democratic". The centuries became subdivisions of the Tribes, and while the centuries of wealthy citizens were still most influential, elections had to include more of the "Classes".

  • @levij4
    @levij4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Around 9:25 Did Cicero really name drop Pompeii?

  • @codyferrell1031
    @codyferrell1031 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t believe I have never heard of you…. Roman history is by far my favorite subject. Anyway just found you from a podcast (big TH-camr who I also never heard/seen). I was very impressed by your knowledge… I thought Lex Friedman’s guest was impressive, the Gregory fellow… but I think you blew him out the water. Man…. Wish I was your neighbor, friend, or student… I would just love to hear and pick your brain. Lol Thankfully for your sake and mine - you have this TH-cam channel… I am going to absorb it. History is my shit. Love Ancient civilizations such as Egypt, Japan, China, Greek, etc etc all of it…. But Ancient Rome…. Specifically Imperial period is probably my favorite. Wish the day I die and get to go to Heaven…. (Of course if I am deserving) Besides joining loved ones and finding peace… I hope that God can allow me to go back in time machines to visit Ancient places… I would love to see Cicero on the Senate floor or the forum… or seeing Julius Caesar or Augustus come in on their triumphs…. That is what I would like more than anything, visit this worlds ancient past and people… imagine all of us history buffs probably would want the same. I don’t want to change anything . Just observe and experience it….

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Politics in Rome actually seems less insane than American politics.

    • @blacksage2375
      @blacksage2375 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The Grachii, Sulla, First Triumvirate, Second Triumvirate nah it totally was.
      The Republic's oligarchy came to a (imo) well deserved end after a century of repeated civil wars and as partisan as things are right now the violence has only been sporadic and of small scale not thousands dead in the Social war or the climatic showdown of Caesar and Pompey at Pharsalus.
      Not that history isn't without its rhyme here.

    • @SpaceReptilioid
      @SpaceReptilioid หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should check out Eastern Roman (Byzantine) politics.

  • @loganbutler1016
    @loganbutler1016 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can think of a couple politicians that could have learned from Scipio's mistake.

  • @violetrose415
    @violetrose415 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mister Garrett Ryan,
    I have been meaning to rewatch old videos I liked in your channel only to not find them (the time traveller one and the series that summaries rhe history of Rome from it's most prominent buildings)
    That was a loss of sorts to me because they were quite educational and fun to me.
    Would you consider reuploading them in the future? Or remake them altogether?

  • @Sabrowsky
    @Sabrowsky 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cicero's manual for how to conduct a political campaign still holds up well today, it seems

  • @jevosch
    @jevosch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Non sequitur but what do you think of the portrayal of Rome in the early third century in Gladiator II? I reacted to some visual dilapidation as in partially run-down facades, collapsed pillars and lack of finish and colours on the walls in the homes we visit in the movie.

    • @jevosch
      @jevosch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would you do a review?

  • @Tr_Fast
    @Tr_Fast หลายเดือนก่อน +175

    you look like a normal person

    • @tom690
      @tom690 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Definitely a patrician

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      He looks like an ancient Roman.

    • @PaulRamone356
      @PaulRamone356 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      what were you expecting? lol

    • @NickCharles-v2p
      @NickCharles-v2p หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm always happy to see my favorite creators take part in their videos! Sometimes they look totally different than you'd imagine from their voice.

    • @dillzee
      @dillzee หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Least normal comment

  • @williamharris8367
    @williamharris8367 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I get the impression that elections were limited to the City of Rome and perhaps its immediate environs. Was there anything similar in the Provinces? What about places like Athens with a very long tradition of democracy?

    • @AnthonyGentile-z2g
      @AnthonyGentile-z2g หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @williamharris8367 The cities of the Roman Empire were nearly all more or less self-governing entities. But what we would call "democracy" didn't exist. In most towns members of the propertied classes periodically met in an assembly and chose a group of wealthy men (curiales) to handle civic and religious administration and collect the taxes for the city and the surrounding rural district The Roman governor would oversee things, resolve disputes between the towns in his province. exercise jurisdiction (especially if Roman citizens were involved) make sure the tribute was collected and keep the peace.

  • @nabilfreeman
    @nabilfreeman หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's goooooo

  • @zenosAnalytic
    @zenosAnalytic หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The graffiti seems to suggest a much more literate populace than is usually assumed.

  • @roberttelarket4934
    @roberttelarket4934 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting we never think of!

  • @Derzmarcz
    @Derzmarcz หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt this will be seen by Garrett Ryan but can anyone tell me why his book on Asia Minor is so expensive compared to the other ones? Is it also a textbook of some kind? I recognize vital source from my college classes so I assume it might be something like that but just curious.

  • @laurateaho-white9654
    @laurateaho-white9654 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's disappointing to see how little things have changed

  • @PJRiter1
    @PJRiter1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just like voting in Chicago today. 🎉

  • @salakasto
    @salakasto หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    "an oligarchy with suppressed democratic tendencies"
    why does that sound familiar?

    • @spindoctor6385
      @spindoctor6385 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because you don't know how to seperate fact from propaganda.

    • @AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947
      @AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Democrat party Politicians and Officials

    • @salakasto
      @salakasto หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @AutomatedPersonellUnit_3947 lol at thinking its confined to democrats

    • @LordTelperion
      @LordTelperion หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947you mean tRump, the wannabe traitor-king.

    • @bathhatingcat8626
      @bathhatingcat8626 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@salakasto there aren’t two parties in the USA- it’s all an elaborate facade. There are two movements though- the establishment and radicals. Every 30 or so years the radicals win and replace the establishment and become it. The neoliberal establishment that ran stuff since the Cold War died this week. You’ll see the democrats change and align with the new ideas/agenda in the next few years.

  • @water4112
    @water4112 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Caesar

  • @Allright890
    @Allright890 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best sharing knowlesge

  • @Joe-po9xn
    @Joe-po9xn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohhh, this may be out of your wheelhouse, but can you do an equivalent of Greek City States?

  • @Minty1337
    @Minty1337 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    finally, a tutorial

    • @perguto
      @perguto หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      unfortunately too late for the Dems this time 😂

    • @Minty1337
      @Minty1337 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@perguto maybe they can get a consul elected next year

  • @theodoridi
    @theodoridi หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Much of your commentary serves to remind me of the corruptions of modern political systems….. 😢

    • @captiannemo1587
      @captiannemo1587 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grease the right wheels and anything is possible.

    • @olavl8827
      @olavl8827 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's almost as if it's intentional.

    • @SpaceReptilioid
      @SpaceReptilioid หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is the root of it, all & history has habit of repeating itself, all the the time. We are seeing one in the making, all the time!

  • @nhgh1756
    @nhgh1756 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:00 lol the chicago came out

  • @signoguns8501
    @signoguns8501 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    slipping into authoritarianism is easy, maintaining a democracy takes a lot of hard work and dedication.

  • @Nom_AnorVSJedi
    @Nom_AnorVSJedi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a difference between the Senate and the Comitia Curiata?

    • @QuantumHistorian
      @QuantumHistorian หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. The former is made up of 300 or so Senators who are former magistrates, the latter is every citizen man assembled to vote on the most critical issues. How did you not get that from this video?

  • @nhancao4790
    @nhancao4790 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Nah its easy, just have some centurions clutching swords in the senate chamber and you will be consul in no time.

  • @Staingo_Jenkins
    @Staingo_Jenkins หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video interaction

  • @alepaz1099
    @alepaz1099 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some things pass the test of time and stay the same 🤷‍♂

  • @RosierJulio
    @RosierJulio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Un video sobre como vivian los exclavos en el imperio romano

  • @arinasosnovskaya5298
    @arinasosnovskaya5298 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So, not much changed at all.

  • @robstone9628
    @robstone9628 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Listen to Socrates

  • @RandyLe4zero8
    @RandyLe4zero8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the ai doesnt unwrap the scrolls what if they lie ??? And give us a fake story 😢

  • @nmarks
    @nmarks 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ELECTION INTERFERENCE!
    😂😂😂

  • @RonBernardino
    @RonBernardino หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have an episode on why the Romans were great in engineering ? Architecture and design?

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like literacy was widespread.

  • @sseadss
    @sseadss หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is kinda disturbing

  • @LudosErgoSum
    @LudosErgoSum หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just another AI voice channel…
    …NOT!!! It’s friggin’ amazing all of this content Mr. TIS provide us with! 🙏

    • @daddykarlmarx6183
      @daddykarlmarx6183 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Decent ai voices didn't even really exist when he made this channel

  • @KertLert-kl8lb
    @KertLert-kl8lb หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Trumpinius Victory: Total

  • @TheFeralFerret
    @TheFeralFerret หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Sic semper tyrannis

    • @OptimusPrinceps_Augustus
      @OptimusPrinceps_Augustus หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheFeralFerret Tace stultus

    • @TheFeralFerret
      @TheFeralFerret หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus Just quoting a famous Roman in a video about the subject, sweetie. Sorry you're so upset! 💋

    • @kanokadany113
      @kanokadany113 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OptimusPrinceps_Augustus clausa, pinguis american

    • @OptimusPrinceps_Augustus
      @OptimusPrinceps_Augustus หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kanokadany113 Pax Americana 🇺🇸🎉

  • @Joe-po9xn
    @Joe-po9xn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truly nothing new under the Sun.

  • @panaceiasuberes6464
    @panaceiasuberes6464 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We're gonna miss these elections things...

    • @TPDA77777
      @TPDA77777 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Seethe more lib. Total Trump Victory

    • @TPDA77777
      @TPDA77777 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mald some more

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TPDA77777 Rigged election. Putin was probably behind it.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    trigger warning:
    this video may remind you of recent events.

  • @CharlesTheClumsy
    @CharlesTheClumsy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You look like a young Julius Caesar.

    • @StoicHumanist
      @StoicHumanist หลายเดือนก่อน

      He does. I am sure it is intentional on his part.

  • @JohnDoe-tv4zf
    @JohnDoe-tv4zf หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Make Rome Great Again !

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That was what Mussolini tried to do. He ended up swinging by his heels from a lamp-post.

    • @JohnDoe-tv4zf
      @JohnDoe-tv4zf หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ are you comparing Trump to Mussolini ?

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@JohnDoe-tv4zf Not yet! I expect he will end up in Arlington National Cemetery, though.

    • @JohnDoe-tv4zf
      @JohnDoe-tv4zf หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@faithlesshound5621 you’re insane, congratulations

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just wait and see. I wonder who will hijack the national mourning? Maybe President Vance. Don't touch the free Kool-Aid!

  • @EGSBiographies-om1wb
    @EGSBiographies-om1wb หลายเดือนก่อน

    217th

  • @ivdeadelendaest
    @ivdeadelendaest หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A lot of surprising similarities to modern elections. America could really use an Augustus right about now

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They've just got themselves a Tiberius.

    • @ostsan8598
      @ostsan8598 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Roman Republic was the main model upon which the Founders established the United States. Makes sense that there would be similarities.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ostsan8598 Other than the word "Senate," I don't see much similarity between the Roman and American systems.

    • @filmbuffo5616
      @filmbuffo5616 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Augustus was a cause of the fall of the Roman Empire, things never got better for very long after that guy. Never holding elections makes things unstable and unlasting.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@filmbuffo5616 Augustus hammered in the last nails of the coffin of the Roman Republic. He is usually regarded as the FIRST emperor of Rome.

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    America is finally back

    • @paperinik69
      @paperinik69 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@TrumpMagusunhinged

    • @trenaceandblackmetal5621
      @trenaceandblackmetal5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cope

    • @jackjohnson40
      @jackjohnson40 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rascists, all of you. You wanted an empire, youve got it. Pray, fucking pray that we get a good emperor, cause trump is not gonna last forever, it is who comes next who will determine the outcome. DO YOU UNDERSTAND

    • @FrankBurnham
      @FrankBurnham หลายเดือนก่อน

      DARK MAGA is here forever, watching told in stone. 😊

    • @yodasmomisondrugs7959
      @yodasmomisondrugs7959 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackjohnson40 👈 Lamestream media watcher right here.

  • @faithlesshound5621
    @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I didn't know that it was Tiberius who stopped Roman citizens voting and switched that duty to the Senators. He anticipated Donald Trump, who said if Americans elected him, they would never have to vote again.

    • @orxy5316
      @orxy5316 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gonna cry?

    • @orxy5316
      @orxy5316 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Consider trying to win an election without cheating lib

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@orxy5316 I see you're cheering at the prospect of never voting again. I have no dog in that race, so I'll eschew barking.

  • @MatthewTheWanderer
    @MatthewTheWanderer หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It's disturbing how many crazy Trump supporters are in this comment section!

    • @NatiKore
      @NatiKore หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Gonna cry?

    • @MatthewTheWanderer
      @MatthewTheWanderer หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@NatiKore No, just report and move on.

    • @paperinik69
      @paperinik69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's disturbing how many maga morons are around in general. Mala tempora currunt 😐

    • @trenaceandblackmetal5621
      @trenaceandblackmetal5621 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@NatiKoreYou will when orange grifter does nothing

    • @screamingseal4805
      @screamingseal4805 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Whatever you say lmfao

  • @user-uf2df6zf5w
    @user-uf2df6zf5w หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This should have been published before the US election.

  • @Nightscape_
    @Nightscape_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm happy I don't live in a dictatorial country and get to vote for my officials who have term limits. My vote may never matter, but at least the Democrat/Republican middle-class home owners are happy, and that is all that really matters.

    • @williamharris8367
      @williamharris8367 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dictatorships and enlighted despots are highly underrated as forms of government. The problem is that the opponents of the regime are the most vocal; the supporters have nothing to complain about.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito หลายเดือนก่อน

      USA? Happy?

  • @IluLimnu
    @IluLimnu หลายเดือนก่อน

    holy crap it is exactly like US elections today.