Cool trick! Something that works for me sometime, if the board in the middle is a little low, I put a short piece of 2x4 over all three and then screw down into the middle board and the screw draws it up.
Great trick with the screw. Something I’ve always done is nail my beams/headers/girders on a flat surface then install where necessary. Unless it’s a huge 3 or 4 ply header, then we’ll install it as a 2 ply and add the remaining layers after we stand the wall/beam etc. just to save our backs.
Thank you for this great video. Can I ask how you have the outside board of the beam secured to the post? Is it tacked in place with a nail at each post or is it connected to a bracket? What is holding it in place strongly enough to allow you to manipulate the center board with pipe clamp? Thank you in advance for any assistance. I wasn’t clear about that part and I’m currently dealing with this exact issue.
Great video, very helpful. For existing home with load bearing wall, Can you join two small beams using metal connector between the two together to make one long beam to get rid of a column holding up the weight?
If you pull the tops of the plies flush with each other, doesn't that make it possible for the bottoms to be uneven, so you might only have one or two of the plies making contact with the post instead of all three?
Thanks for the tip and when it comes to saving screws in reusing them I wish these younger guys would get the clue you don’t throw hardware away valuable I did young mechanics throwing out parts for bumpers and all the hardware for lift kits in such crazy
What if one board is great on one end but on the other end is narrower? Since my beam is sitting on top of 6 x 6 post, is it acceptable to use a composite shim underneath the one that’s too narrow in order to flush the tops?
Question? What size beam would I need to clear span 40 feet also, what size beam for clear span 20 feet? This is for an awning. There will be nothing on top of it except for its own weight and 26 gauge R panel. Is there a calculation for this or?
I enjoy to watch your videos so much, now i want to build a house too. You said in one video that you used ~70,000 nails for building one house. Could you please clear a bit how much timber, plywood (with sizes) you use for build a house like this. Good work, Thank You and keep doing those videos. Bless you all!
Hello everyone! Help here. Im taking a wall down ( 12 ft long) and yes its a load bearing wall. I wanted to save money and instead of buying LVLs, i wanted to put 2 2x12 w 1/2 plywood. Thoughts?
Note to @Better I loved your video. I designed (now retired Product Development Engineer) half the parts on that Paslode you are using. Paslode gets sued every year from contractors who have lost an eye. It goes before the court,and the plaintiff is asked " Were you provided safety glasses with the nailer when you bought it? Does it state on the side of the nailer that you must wear safety glasses when using? " Were you wearing them? Plantiff "no" ; Judge: "Case dismissed." The problem is that no one can make a perfect nail. There are carbon inclusions in the steel. The heads go 'ping' and fly around the room. Save your eyes my man.
I have seen people use a 2x12, plywood and 2x12. DO we need the plywood sandwiched in between for something. I am going to build a small cabin and getting notes before I even start.
@Jj Moss Thanks. I have seen so many videos this week on framing. I remember this because around 1998 I helped on a few jobs and never saw anyone else doing that. I was around 15 at the time. Thanks
Just wondering why you wouldn’t use a 6x beam structural 1 beam? Or if it’s a supporting member inside a framing system why not use a paralam or versalam. Crowning and shear nailing a built up beam widely used and is recommended by architects but one piece of lumber goes up faster than assembling the time taken. I’m just wondering. 46 years a carpenter and 26 years general contractor
I'm trying to do this with a 4PLY cedar beam that I'm making to replace my primary carrying beam, but I'm finding it almost impossible to get them plum and level. Does it matter if they're not 100 percent in line with each other, or can I just plain them... I feel like I'm being way too picky about them being perfect lol
Hey thanks.. just using and iPhone 11 Pro and Videoleap editing on the phone ($50 per year subscription). Also use Envanto for royalty free music ($200 per year). Use PhotoFox app for thumbnails. Pretty good Mobil setup!
Anyone know a collection of these “tricks”? I’ve picked up a few for bending and pulling twisted wood into place during framing, and they’re absolutely critical to the process, but no one seems to teach them. I’m sure there are more to know than I know.
I'm looking at making a beam out of 2x10's but wanting to notch my 6x6 post to set and attach the beam to the post that way. What I can't really find any information on is how much of the 6x6 can you notch without having issues?
Guessing, but you can probably notch it all the way off, i.e. he put his beam on top of the post. If he had notched he could have clamped to the unnotched to verticalize the beam. Notch if you need to stabilize or want flush surfaces. Just my thoughts.
How can I find true vertical on a 45 degree or 12 12 pitch roof? I can use the laser they get the horizontal and of course the crosshairs project a vertical but it's not true vertical that's all I fiddle around with it but I don't want to fiddle anymore I want to know.
Hey I have 3 2x6s nailed together like this for a rafter in my garage. They are about 13 feet long. I'm trying to figure out how much weight this "beam" can support as I want to put a pulley on it and use as a hoist
... i first saw that nail flush trick from i believe is a prominent carpenter in youtube (who is already dead).. just forgot his name.... I'm not sure if its from a TV show from the past that just re-uploaded... seems so old as he was not using any tools and basically hammered every nail.
I understand that but unless ur lumber is super messed up u should only have to run a couple through and if it really is that bad u should get some of ur money back
Yeah, us old trade workers know a thing or two because we have done a thing or two. One day you'll be in our shoes. Our minds say we can still swing a hammer, but our joints creek like an old rusty door hinge. lol
Neat trick but that beam will never pass inspection. You cannot bury your fasteners. The inspector wants to see that there are sufficient nails and that they are properly placed. FAIL!
@@PerkinsBuilderBrothers Awesome. No problem then. Thanks for the quick reply. I always carried a few clamps with me back in the day before I retired. No TH-cam to learn from back when I started. Just figured it out myself. Lasers replaced my plumb bobs too.
@@PerkinsBuilderBrothers I have question. My main carrying beam in my house is starting to twist (over 40 ft long, 3 2x10s). What can I do to fix it? I see what you did here, but my beam already has a load on it.
Your jobs muat pay alot of cash to be spending the time you do on things. Dont get me wronge im a perfectionist but i gotta find that medium of making money and good clean work or its all for nothing
That’s nice giving credit to the man that show you that trick.. thanks for the video
Cool trick! Something that works for me sometime, if the board in the middle is a little low, I put a short piece of 2x4 over all three and then screw down into the middle board and the screw draws it up.
Love the clamp and screw tip. I use both all the time and they are lifesavers. Leverage is EVERYTHING! Thank you.
I wish I found you guys two years ago, this tip alone would have come in real handy!
Thanks,
DC
Man what a refreshing video! Found out exactly what I wanted to know in 2 mins 35 secs. Thanks!
I really like how you keep it short and get right to it nice!!
Great trick with the screw.
Something I’ve always done is nail my beams/headers/girders on a flat surface then install where necessary. Unless it’s a huge 3 or 4 ply header, then we’ll install it as a 2 ply and add the remaining layers after we stand the wall/beam etc. just to save our backs.
Sooo fun to see these earlier vids popping up .... the intros are always interesting. All the ideas are great Erik!!
Nice you remember the guys who taught you tips and tricks
Very useful tricks! It’s all about the details, and wisdom tricks thanks for passing that on
Are built up beams as strong as a one piece beam for timber frames? Why don’t we use a 6x6 or 8x8 ? Is it because of the costs or because is easier?
Thank you for this great video. Can I ask how you have the outside board of the beam secured to the post? Is it tacked in place with a nail at each post or is it connected to a bracket? What is holding it in place strongly enough to allow you to manipulate the center board with pipe clamp? Thank you in advance for any assistance. I wasn’t clear about that part and I’m currently dealing with this exact issue.
You guys make looks so much easier, experience, experience.
Great video, very helpful. For existing home with load bearing wall, Can you join two small beams using metal connector between the two together to make one long beam to get rid of a column holding up the weight?
Building a deck today. I think you saved me some minutes my friend!!
Great tips! Thank you for sharing.
Can you show a video where you attached the beam to the post?
I love that trick!!! Thanks for sharing.
If you pull the tops of the plies flush with each other, doesn't that make it possible for the bottoms to be uneven, so you might only have one or two of the plies making contact with the post instead of all three?
Thanks for the tip and when it comes to saving screws in reusing them I wish these younger guys would get the clue you don’t throw hardware away
valuable
I did young mechanics throwing out parts for bumpers and all the hardware for lift kits in such crazy
Totally Pro...
Thanks...GOD Bless you
What if one board is great on one end but on the other end is narrower? Since my beam is sitting on top of 6 x 6 post, is it acceptable to use a composite shim underneath the one that’s too narrow in order to flush the tops?
Is it ok to use a layer of half inch ply to bring flush and should I use glue ? Making a 16ft 6x10
Cool tricks. Thanks for sharing with us common people.
Question? What size beam would I need to clear span 40 feet also, what size beam for clear span 20 feet?
This is for an awning. There will be nothing on top of it except for its own weight and 26 gauge R panel.
Is there a calculation for this or?
I enjoy to watch your videos so much, now i want to build a house too. You said in one video that you used ~70,000 nails for building one house. Could you please clear a bit how much timber, plywood (with sizes) you use for build a house like this. Good work, Thank You and keep doing those videos. Bless you all!
You're a cool dude! I'd still ne building homes if I worked guys like you!
1st fan back to watch!
Great tip with the screw!
You are the MAN!!
Perkins Builder Brothers #winning
Wouldn't it be wise to use glue as well? Or is that too slow?
Good video and information, thanks!
Hello everyone! Help here. Im taking a wall down ( 12 ft long) and yes its a load bearing wall. I wanted to save money and instead of buying LVLs, i wanted to put 2 2x12 w 1/2 plywood. Thoughts?
Note to @Better I loved your video. I designed (now retired Product Development Engineer) half the parts on that Paslode you are using. Paslode gets sued every year from contractors who have lost an eye. It goes before the court,and the plaintiff is asked " Were you provided safety glasses with the nailer when you bought it? Does it state on the side of the nailer that you must wear safety glasses when using? " Were you wearing them? Plantiff "no" ; Judge: "Case dismissed." The problem is that no one can make a perfect nail. There are carbon inclusions in the steel. The heads go 'ping' and fly around the room. Save your eyes my man.
I have seen people use a 2x12, plywood and 2x12. DO we need the plywood sandwiched in between for something. I am going to build a small cabin and getting notes before I even start.
@Jj Moss Thanks. I have seen so many videos this week on framing. I remember this because around 1998 I helped on a few jobs and never saw anyone else doing that. I was around 15 at the time. Thanks
the plywood makes it much stronger i would think. they used a board/ply/board to make a header for my house add on.
Cool tricks!
Just wondering why you wouldn’t use a 6x beam structural 1 beam? Or if it’s a supporting member inside a framing system why not use a paralam or versalam. Crowning and shear nailing a built up beam widely used and is recommended by architects but one piece of lumber goes up faster than assembling the time taken. I’m just wondering. 46 years a carpenter and 26 years general contractor
Cause it's super heavy and he'd probably rather not crane that up there
Nice job. More Stabila please.
I'm trying to do this with a 4PLY cedar beam that I'm making to replace my primary carrying beam, but I'm finding it almost impossible to get them plum and level. Does it matter if they're not 100 percent in line with each other, or can I just plain them... I feel like I'm being way too picky about them being perfect lol
Can a 6x6 be used for a beam?
can i use 2 or 3 beams to support a second floor ? it's a 3.5 meter span ? beams are 5 x 25 cm . tnx
Situations like this explain my dad's concept of "plum crooked".
This is part of the reason we notch our posts and attach the beam to the posts
You cant with a 3ply beam on a 6x6.
Do you ever need to use several bar clamps depending on the length? I would imagine you would need to twist and nail several feet at a time, no?
Nice tip! What camera/edit software are you using? Just found you guys love the videos!!
Hey thanks.. just using and iPhone 11 Pro and Videoleap editing on the phone ($50 per year subscription). Also use Envanto for royalty free music ($200 per year). Use PhotoFox app for thumbnails. Pretty good Mobil setup!
What is that name of that clamp or a link please?
It's great working outside. I wouldn't trade being in building for ANY JOB on earth !!!
I saved 750 dollars building a wooden beam on site vs a steel beam. Nice tips. Money saved bought a lot of studs.
So wood beams replace steel beams?
@@gwp1ohio absolutely. A wood beam(properly sized)is just as strong. For me, it put money in my pocket.
@@kennethwallace5168 hmm
@@gwp1ohio the book I used to help me with this is called Basic engineering for builders. By Max Schartz...easly formulas using basic math.
Do you know what kind of beam I need for spam 20’ for a patio cover ?
Wouldn't that put a preload on the now plumb beam
What are you nail with?
Using screws is king, nice tip.
So u nail them together to make beam?
Anyone know a collection of these “tricks”? I’ve picked up a few for bending and pulling twisted wood into place during framing, and they’re absolutely critical to the process, but no one seems to teach them. I’m sure there are more to know than I know.
I’m homesteading on 80 acres and building my whole place. I’m going to use that!
I'm looking at making a beam out of 2x10's but wanting to notch my 6x6 post to set and attach the beam to the post that way. What I can't really find any information on is how much of the 6x6 can you notch without having issues?
Guessing, but you can probably notch it all the way off, i.e. he put his beam on top of the post. If he had notched he could have clamped to the unnotched to verticalize the beam. Notch if you need to stabilize or want flush surfaces. Just my thoughts.
Great info!!!
How can I find true vertical on a 45 degree or 12 12 pitch roof? I can use the laser they get the horizontal and of course the crosshairs project a vertical but it's not true vertical that's all I fiddle around with it but I don't want to fiddle anymore I want to know.
Neat! Thank you!
Where are you guys from??
Just saying it’s hard to plumb the bottom if your raising the top to plumb while on the post
Good method.
Hey I have 3 2x6s nailed together like this for a rafter in my garage. They are about 13 feet long. I'm trying to figure out how much weight this "beam" can support as I want to put a pulley on it and use as a hoist
Figure our what type of wood it is and they have charts online to figure that out
What are the dimensions for these beams?
Great tips!
How do you like the atomic drill?
I always glue them together.. Just roll on Glue and 1/2 bolts every 2 ft..
Mind blown thanks
... i first saw that nail flush trick from i believe is a prominent carpenter in youtube (who is already dead).. just forgot his name.... I'm not sure if its from a TV show from the past that just re-uploaded... seems so old as he was not using any tools and basically hammered every nail.
@Jj Moss hahaha yeah that's the guy!
You should make the Perkins Builder Brothers Construction College
I wanna be like you... Thnk for sharing
I like those stelletto hammers
Great tips and real class name checking your mentor
Nice!
Is this a Customer's house or your house where you going to live ?
I'm California Los angeles
That house is in a nice location location
Cheers from North Carolina! Building it for a client. We get to build in some amazing places in these mountains.
If ur lumber u use is that far off y not run them through the table saw first
Alex time for one and its framing no need to be perfect or pretty
I understand that but unless ur lumber is super messed up u should only have to run a couple through and if it really is that bad u should get some of ur money back
Please consider protecting your eyes whenever nailguns are used.
Agreed! But they he’s gotta use em 😅
Have you ever used "glue-Lam's" ?
Tons
Muito bom 👍
Nice noice nooiicceee
Pretty cool of you to name that trick after the guy who taught you the trick!
Yeah, us old trade workers know a thing or two because we have done a thing or two. One day you'll be in our shoes. Our minds say we can still swing a hammer, but our joints creek like an old rusty door hinge. lol
You need the stilleto 3...
Where’s the 1/2 inch ply in between 🤷🏼♂️
The Stoltzfus I take it he wore suspenders and a straw hat ?
Little guys need leverage lol. That's what all the guys on my crew say to me....
💯👍👍
I use a huge pipe wrench for this. My luck would be to one day accidentally bend my clamp!! 🤣
3 nails every 16 inches way to much bounce in that gun hand nails hold much better
Neat trick but that beam will never pass inspection. You cannot bury your fasteners. The inspector wants to see that there are sufficient nails and that they are properly placed. FAIL!
Nailed from both sides bud
@@PerkinsBuilderBrothers
Awesome. No problem then. Thanks for the quick reply. I always carried a few clamps with me back in the day before I retired. No TH-cam to learn from back when I started. Just figured it out myself. Lasers replaced my plumb bobs too.
@@PerkinsBuilderBrothers I have question. My main carrying beam in my house is starting to twist (over 40 ft long, 3 2x10s). What can I do to fix it? I see what you did here, but my beam already has a load on it.
So many keys things, Not mentioned
O no!! if you use a bar clamp it will make the wood rot faster LOL
Haha!!!! Cracking up right now... thanks for the comment. I’m now sure someone will find some huge problem with everything I post ;)
Perkins Builder Brothers have you ever watched the build show channel on TH-cam with Matt risinger?
There are zero girders in this video..
I can see that from here.
It’s called the screw trick but ok
tha way to slow !
#okboomer 😉 jk sometimes boomers have good tricks
Your jobs muat pay alot of cash to be spending the time you do on things. Dont get me wronge im a perfectionist but i gotta find that medium of making money and good clean work or its all for nothing
You fail for safety at work no hard hat eye protector in using the nailer too dangerous!