DIY Underground Wire layer/Pipe layer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ค. 2016
- Decided to make myself a wire layer attachment for a 3-Point Sub-soiler. Just of 1.5" angle iron and 2" flat stock welded together so that it bolts to the sub-soiler. Then 1.25" PVC conduit wired to the back of the angle iron.
Using the Case 741 tractor I was able to lay the wire down 12" underground. May be able to get lower with a different tractor. We have had lots of rain so the soil was perfect for Ripping thru with the sub-soiler. I might be able to use this for running 3/4" plastic pipe in the ground also.
Well done. You have a very functional design to bury cable. Very helpful video. Thank you for taking the time to post it.
Add a 12 inch diameter disc 5/16 or so thick in front of the digger blade on 2 pillow block bearing. It is about half the depth of the digging bit. It rolls and prevent the fouling or pileup in front. Add a sod roller to the back to close up the gap in ground.
I helped a guy bury 1200 feet of coax in minutes. We spent more time changing rolls than plowing it in.
Thanks for showing this.
This worked better than I thought it was going to!
This is one of those “why didn’t I think of that” builds. Haha great work
Excellent! This is just what I need. I see some welding in my future.
Back in the anonymous days. You've come A LONG WAY since then!!
Good job and great ingenuity.
Weld your tabs to rigid metal conduit to eliminate the angle iron and cables?
You've added some nice features and have some good ideas that i think I'll use, lol.
And just to clarify you did an awesome job with the fabrication and whole project. It's easy for people to arm chair projects. But alot of people won't actually get after the project themselves. So I wanted to clarify I wasn't knocking your work brother! Keep up the fabrication.
Works great as long as the soil is rocky!
That's pretty cool! A lot cheaper than a trencher.
I am going to build one this week, to plow in 100 feet of 3/4 pex pipe. I am using 1.5" EMT, instead of plastic pipe. I am also welding it together, as I have no use for a subsoiler when I am done.
I just used the attachment unchanged. Made one run, then hooked brace wire and taped to pvc then pulled it down on the second run. Worked great for 1 inch pvc and you can glue the joints and pull at least 200 feet with one pull!
Cool tool!
Good old style tractor. Friend of mine years ago told me bout his pa running black poly pipe same way but used bigger conduit
Good job.
Disregard all the arm chair naysayers. Good job. Thanks for the video.
Ingenious idea.
Are there no pins in the lift arms to hold them on?
Awesome job! Really cool build. (I need a workshop like I need air.)
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well done!
Para mi no se para los otros, pero enterrar cables que trasladan corriente no se si es para 220 Volt o para 110 Volt, en definitiva el punto es que con el tiempo se deterioran por la humedad y puede general corto al pasar los años, prefiero los aéreos porque tengo la garantía de cambiarlos fácilmente si se deterioran por las condiciones del clima, cada cual hace su mejor esfuerzo y aplica sus ideas las cual respecto.- solo es una sugerencia de mi punto de vista porque veo mucha humedad en el suelo.-
Great job
What angle did you set the blade at ? I've got a very similar ripper/mole plough and I get get it to cut deep. It keeps riding back up. I thinking of putting some weight on it.
The top was angled quite a bit toward the tractor. The case tractor has a eagle claw hitch and the top link was seized up, so I couldn't adjust it. But it seamed to work good. Luckly the ground was somewhat moist and easy to rip.
Thanks very much for that, i'll do some more experimenting.
Make sure the front is lower than the back and it'll dig in and stay down.
the shorter the top link the deeper it goes.
Excellent
Good idea
GREAT video!!!
Instead of twisted wire to hold on the wire-feed conduit, why not hose clamps?
Awesome
Sorry for my stupid question, is the attachment called trencher? When I look on line for trencher it comes up that oval type that has teeth and spins, it also makes big mess.
Sub-soiler is what it is called.
FYI, Subsoilers are generally used to reduce compaction, which has a variety of benefits. One of which is improved moisture absorption.
Adam Muhle no shit Sherlock
@@cd1168 Well I didn't know that Thanks Adam.
Code requires protection/marking over bare cables buried less than 3". That's why we put it in conduit, only has to be 18" deep.
joe banana, yes this installation of 30 amp camper outlets doesn't meet code. But if this was a 20 amp GFCI protected circuit, it would meet the 12" required by NEC code. So this is a viable option for 20 amp GFCI branch circuits.
smalltown442 actually it's not 12 inch it's 24 inches minimum for direct bury cable for code
Table 300.5 in the NEC code book. Column four is for 20 amp GFCI branch circuits, allows for 12" deep. But yes, other circuits need to be 24" to meet code. And yes my installation is a 30 amp circuit and doesn't meet code, but that doesn't bother me.
smalltown442 i looked at my code book and i stand corrected thanks i normally bury everything at 24 or more
Here comes joe codebook. This installation is way better than most home owner diy farm electrican jobs. I have been doing electrical work for 30 years and this is the way I did my install on my farm.
Awesome idea! Now just mount yourself a spool holder of some kind up there and you can work solo.
No conduit?
Is that cable capable of been digged ?
Whatta ya gonna do with the wood?
Surely you should be using armoured cable?
I was using UF (Underground Feeder) cable, it is direct bury rated cable. At First Glance it looks like Romex cable, like you would use in your house, but outside sheath is solid and coats around all three wires separately. To meet electric code, I would have to bury it 24" since it is a 30 amp circuit, but this is only around 12" deep. But that is ok with me. It is just to power my Campsite.
why?? UF CABLE is required for direct burial, not type MC or AC
Country View Acres , if you ground fault the circuits you can get away with 12 inches and be code compliant.
Nimbus Nimbus I can only tell you what the NEC says. UF cable protected by a ground fault interrupter circuit can be 12 inches. There are many conditions in the the NEC that dictate cover requirements from 0 to 24 inches. More than I can list here. Look up 300.5, there is a table that lists about 35 various conditions.
Doubling up your amps by running two outdoor lines because the run is so long?
Two circuits is how I ended up doing it.
@@CountryViewAcres I have a pretty long run, so I ran tandem lines for just one circuit, I had to so the breaker would stop popping.
Off topic question, did you take a class to weld or trial and error? Welder is a tool I want but have been hesitant because of no experience. Thanks
To answer your question, watch some TH-cam videos, especially Jody on Welding Tips and Tricks on here. I bought a cheaper Hobart 120v flux core wire welder and for most of what I do I love it. Number one most important thing is practice and number 2 is take your time. Go to the scrap yard, buy different random pieces of metal and practice practice practice. Flux core wire isn't very expensive, so practice.
vibratory plow?
Need to put detector tape down, so people can fingers were the run is incase they plow the fields.
UK Regs require a duct plus a red marker tape with a minimum depth of 18 inches or 450 mm for electricity & phone cables for Public & Contractors safety.
Terry Howell from the accent I doubt this is in the UK...either way just add another pipe at a higher depth for your marker tape...its the way the pros do it. Easy peezy.
Would have been nice to have a Coulter ahead of your knife to cut through the sod more cleanly
What about roots and rocks? I got both. Great idea.
I am sure roots and rocks could be an issue with they were large enough. Luckily I haven't ran into any
That is alright..
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A good idea it just needs to be min 18" deep to meet NEC CODE USA
Has to be 24" below grade to be code compliance.
Depth? Hmmm.
12 to 18 inches. A lot depends on how low the lift arms can go on the tractor.
if your direct bury cable or wire if not at least 24 inches or you're not meeting electrical code but it's a very good idea
Your incorrect sir. Depth will vary from city/state as to what they require your depth for direct burial **(electrical)** wire. And whether or not it's on private property, in a easement, residential, commercial. And just a little (fyi) most city's that your doing work that requires a permit or inspection they will generally want your depth to be 30" to 34". And they want all utilities at that depth except for water main or water services. So it's a pain in the ass when your drilling and your "supposed" to be at the same depth as every other utility. Doesnt work that way most of the time though. Coax and fiber drops will be anywhere from 2" to 18" not that it's right but believe me I've seen just about all the crazy shit you can imagine, hell I've seen comcast guys just kick some rocks over the cable and hop in the van and drive off.
N J is correct according to NEC 24 for direct burry wire and 18 for wire in conduit with varations depending on if concrete is involved. Right on N J
why not run the wire through schedule 40 pvc underground to protect it from rodents? you may find a few years down the road it gets chewed through and stops working.
Too bad it isnt deep enough to satisfy the National Electric Code.
Nice! a suggestion for next video, your wife is more attractive than the tractor so......at least let her say hi! lol
Add some wd-40 to the inside of your pipe so it slides the cable faster / easier you can drive at a higher speed that way
No. You don’t expose cable to oil.
They make a lubricant for pulling wire
You are laying, unshelled and unarmourer cable in bare soil, at a depth that is too shallow to comply with regulations. Good luck.
It's direct bury cable, and you worry about what other people do too damn much.
NEC (National electric code) table 300.5 column 4. Circuit 120 volts and less with GFCI protection, minimum cover requirements 12 inches. As long as it is on a GFCI breaker it meets code.
first one to comment :)
Illegal as it gets.
National electric code, section 300.5. GFCI protected branch circuits can be direct buried 12" deep.
smalltown442 my bad, varies, from state to state.😊
Peters Right but, not really. That’s why it’s called the National Electric Code.
@@jeffpurdy2347 And "National Electric Code"means nothing until it is adopted into law by the state or local jurisdiction. At that point it becomes whatever city or state's electrical code. NFPA 70 is a model code, not law.
@@denali9449 Didn’t type “Law” in my response. It’s a code of acceptable and unacceptable wiring practices. In my state it is adopted about 6 months after it comes out. The state then has a law that says it must be followed. The NEC has this as an explanation of its purpose.
“The purpose of this Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity. This Code is not intended as a design specification or an instruction manual for untrained persons.”
any AC wire by code must be down a minimum of 30" with a red plastic warning tape 12" below grade over the wire, 12" is not deep enough, before doing any electrical work get a electrical permit,, and call for your inspections, a permit is needed for any electrical work, from changing lights an plugs adding wires to a new service.. protect your self and everyone around.. hydro kills. anything happens like say a fire, and it is proven to have started by electrical, and you didn't have a permit, your insurance will be void and huge fine can and will be lyied by the electrical safety board, cable and phone companies are really bad at putting there cables just under the sod, and the frost pushs them up and you cut them off with the lawn mower or roto tiller, they are to be down minimum 18" so if you rip them up with a mower or tiller, its not your problem and nothing hey can do to you, a tiller on goes down max 12" with new tines, so nothing should be in that depth, doing lawn care and tilling commercially i have ripped up many, and no one has ever said a word
Not a correct electrical code reference in the whole paragraph.
i bought that subsoiler
its crap bent frame in ten minuits with a 20 hp kubota
the foot is at wrong angle flat bar cross plate has no strength CRAP DONT BUY
chris sharpe Not sure what brand you have, but mine caught a rock and stopped my 40hp tractor. Didn't hurt the subsoiler at all.
I have the same sub soil buster as this guy -- the countryline and I works great with my John Deere 750 -- I have busted a lot of ground with it and also buried my own waterline and electrical / cable TV out to the garden. It's awesome!!!
chris sharp, I don't believe a word your saying!
@Sean Bellis that's what I was thinking. I mean nowadays it's all a wireless app to your phone. thinking about this for waterline for a wood furnace. Keep thinking though of how much wood do I really wanna have to deal with and if I do want to deal with it it's so hard to find the efficient splitter I want. May just have to build one with a few of the components I can find on ebay using a 3 point hitch with nothing on it so I can weld a platform and frame to mount the PTO auger splitter. Before you say those are unsafe those are the only splitters that will split pieces of wood of significant length without bowing the log which could cause it to snap (not split) and fly off the splitter.
Code says 18 inches for a reason. You'll figure out why later.