Hopefully it's better than the smart scope that I have used in the past at a past employer that insisted in using it to measure some parts in production that were made by punch presses, it would go down all the time and piss off the qc department who had to come out and repair the damn thing and also stop production because of that too
The ergonomics/use look quite nice. But none of that matters if we don't know what the Accuracy Rating is. In inches (or metric I can do the conversion), what is the +/- Accuracy Rating (e.g. +/- .0001"), and Repeatability Rating? A high % of our work has a total tolerance of .0002". Off the top of my head I'd expect a tool capable of handling that to have a stated spec of something like +/- .000080. Again, off the top of my head. We often have small features that challenge systems like this. As example, a .005" radius between surfaces. or a small .032H x .020Dia "nipple" on a tip that also has a 30-deg taper for 3/4 of it's height. Bottom Line: Accuracy Rating? Repeatability Rating? Thanks for the video.
Great AD :) But ... for example with this feature - small "pipe" on side - on first measurment it shows 0.250 and on second side it shows 0.249 - i think its to big of a difference.
@@jonwebb9261 its a comparatively massive tolerance when compared to some of the 9 micron bores or 30 micron true positions we frequently hit. A micrometer will easily measure 25 microns.
I have 2 Keyence and Sylvac automatic cameras in my company. Works fine as long as the light in the room is correct, you have relatively flat parts and not go below 0.1 mm shapes (on keyence).
Yes- The screen on the righthand side give instant visual feedback on the screen with GO/NG, but you also can save / print reports with Actual | Nominal | tolerance values as well as generate a .csv file that can be automatically populated after each measurement sequence
This is something companies like Aberlink have been offering for a long time for a far lower cost with easier to use software. Good looking system though. What's the quoted accuracy and repeatability?
With vision systems the features that can be seen by the camera and illuminated can usually be measured. if the internal cut is recessed it typically cannot be measured unless you rotate it into view.
to use this technology, the part has to be really clean in order to eliminate the unwanted errors due to burrs or metallic dust. washing the part after each operation is a normal procedure but deburring every detail other than datums after every single machining operation is a loss of efficiency. Detail deburring is usually done after all the machining operations are completed to the spec.
There are a couple of different modes: High Resolution Mode and Normal Mode. High Resolution Mode accuracy in the screen is: +/- .002um Normal Mode accuracy is" +/-.004um The difference is that the Depth of focus is changed (by adjusting the IRIS on the camera) to accomplish this. You can read all about this here: www.mitutoyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0515-02-Quick_Image1.pdf
Yes you can measure pitch diameter. The tools to measure pitch diameter need are Line/Line/(tangent circle - size = know pin diameter for thread). This need to be don on the top side in two adjacent threads and one on the bottom (I usually drive directly underneath the top threads) At this point I make a line on form left to right through the top two circles and then calculate a distance to the center of the bottom circle. Once you do the sequence once its captures in a program and it executes automatically after that. You can also write your own macros for quick check items such as this.
@@psyaikoaiko7296 keyence has one that you just tell it the thread size you are looking to measure and it does all the work for you. It's pretty sweet. You can also throw up multiple parts with the same features and it will instantly tell you what one is out of tol. I was just wondering if Mitutoyo did the same.
Something to note this poor design flaw moving the table with an unclamped part can cause small parts to move slightly causing inaccurate measurements. We have one these at work, they are not accurate. You could measure a part, move it on the table and measure again and it would move 1-2 thou
We have been using the one from Keyence for almost a year and its been the very best thing we have invested.... its quite more expensive than the Mitutoyo one, but its worth every penny.... this is the one we have: th-cam.com/video/EjeUY-A_GgE/w-d-xo.html
Hopefully those rapid movements aren't moving that unrestrained part.
Hopefully it's better than the smart scope that I have used in the past at a past employer that insisted in using it to measure some parts in production that were made by punch presses, it would go down all the time and piss off the qc department who had to come out and repair the damn thing and also stop production because of that too
we've been using ogp smartscope like 10 years now.
The ergonomics/use look quite nice. But none of that matters if we don't know what the Accuracy Rating is. In inches (or metric I can do the conversion), what is the +/- Accuracy Rating (e.g. +/- .0001"), and Repeatability Rating?
A high % of our work has a total tolerance of .0002". Off the top of my head I'd expect a tool capable of handling that to have a stated spec of something like +/- .000080. Again, off the top of my head. We often have small features that challenge systems like this. As example, a .005" radius between surfaces. or a small .032H x .020Dia "nipple" on a tip that also has a 30-deg taper for 3/4 of it's height.
Bottom Line: Accuracy Rating? Repeatability Rating?
Thanks for the video.
Great AD :)
But ... for example with this feature - small "pipe" on side - on first measurment it shows 0.250 and on second side it shows 0.249 - i think its to big of a difference.
Thats only 0.025mm but as its round you could double check it with a mic
@@tacticaloverlord9378 If it's has a h7 u can be fracked. Thats not why anyone buys measuring equipment.
@@Ubicuse I work in a cnc job shop as a 5 axis machinist and we mic sizes like that all the time we just frequently check the mics are calibrated.
@@tacticaloverlord9378 mics just aren't accurate enough for certain jobs dude, 5 axis CNC or not. 25 microns is a lot in high accuracy measurement
@@jonwebb9261 its a comparatively massive tolerance when compared to some of the 9 micron bores or 30 micron true positions we frequently hit. A micrometer will easily measure 25 microns.
This is Awsome , how much does one cost?
@@accumach6454 LOL
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Wow how much change in a couple of years 😮!
I have 2 Keyence and Sylvac automatic cameras in my company. Works fine as long as the light in the room is correct, you have relatively flat parts and not go below 0.1 mm shapes (on keyence).
What's the tolerance on this machine?
can this system automatic generate an inspection report with the file thats used for mesureing the part?
Yes- The screen on the righthand side give instant visual feedback on the screen with GO/NG, but you also can save / print reports with Actual | Nominal | tolerance values as well as generate a .csv file that can be automatically populated after each measurement sequence
Be good if the teacher could explain in full with out interruptions
Travis stop talking.
Loved this Mitutoyo🔥
Does it have rgb channel?
Love these things their great. My first job had one.
What maximum accuracy of measurements does it have?
This is something companies like Aberlink have been offering for a long time for a far lower cost with easier to use software. Good looking system though. What's the quoted accuracy and repeatability?
Thanks for this video!👍🇩🇪
Amazing to see how technology advances. Is this capable of inspecting internal cuts?
With vision systems the features that can be seen by the camera and illuminated can usually be measured.
if the internal cut is recessed it typically cannot be measured unless you rotate it into view.
Greeting from Molding Manufacturing Indonesia👏 do you have EDM machine??
I like this! This would help a lot! 😄 Gotta love technology!
to use this technology, the part has to be really clean in order to eliminate the unwanted errors due to burrs or metallic dust. washing the part after each operation is a normal procedure but deburring every detail other than datums after every single machining operation is a loss of efficiency. Detail deburring is usually done after all the machining operations are completed to the spec.
How accurate is this? If you have a tolerance of +/- 0.01 mm in a hole,is it accurate below a hundred of a millimeter??
There are a couple of different modes: High Resolution Mode and Normal Mode.
High Resolution Mode accuracy in the screen is: +/- .002um
Normal Mode accuracy is" +/-.004um
The difference is that the Depth of focus is changed (by adjusting the IRIS on the camera) to accomplish this.
You can read all about this here:
www.mitutoyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/0515-02-Quick_Image1.pdf
Does it measure Pitch Diameter?
Yes you can measure pitch diameter. The tools to measure pitch diameter need are Line/Line/(tangent circle - size = know pin diameter for thread). This need to be don on the top side in two adjacent threads and one on the bottom (I usually drive directly underneath the top threads) At this point I make a line on form left to right through the top two circles and then calculate a distance to the center of the bottom circle. Once you do the sequence once its captures in a program and it executes automatically after that. You can also write your own macros for quick check items such as this.
@@psyaikoaiko7296 keyence has one that you just tell it the thread size you are looking to measure and it does all the work for you. It's pretty sweet. You can also throw up multiple parts with the same features and it will instantly tell you what one is out of tol. I was just wondering if Mitutoyo did the same.
Keyence has been doing this since 2009... check out the IM7000 if you want to see true Instant Measurement
Micro vu is the way to go
CMM tells the story.
what a advance technology. awesome
That rolling shutter on the camera makes me sweat. Wonder if a global shutter camera makes it better
Got one at my work. Hate it. Don't touch the part and re-run it. Will get diff dims. Hard check is king.
BOOM! 🔥🔥🔥 Awesome 👍😘
I'll take it
great titan boom
Reminds me of a vertex
They never tell you the price up front XD
30k
Something to note this poor design flaw moving the table with an unclamped part can cause small parts to move slightly causing inaccurate measurements. We have one these at work, they are not accurate. You could measure a part, move it on the table and measure again and it would move 1-2 thou
Keyence makes a better system
🇩🇪nice
We have been using the one from Keyence for almost a year and its been the very best thing we have invested.... its quite more expensive than the Mitutoyo one, but its worth every penny.... this is the one we have: th-cam.com/video/EjeUY-A_GgE/w-d-xo.html