I have watched you before. I've been struggling all my life and it is so easy to try to let it win and take over. For me it is work related and I let my life outside of work crumble. So here I am starting again. You have helped me so much and I am enternally grateful.
Brandon Dawson I'm so sorry to hear that. It sounds like you are trying to help yourself though. If you have any questions for me I'm happy to try and answer them. Thanks for your comment.
ive recently been informed by a therapist to check out OCPD as i was previously misdiagnosed with ocd and i started crying with how much this is me. i didn’t know.... this is hard
I grew up in total chaos. From a young age I focused on having my space (bedroom) clean and organized. Sometimes I would clean and organize the whole house but I gave up because I became so frustrated. As an adult, my home has always been clean and organized. I have a standard. I don't believe that I am OCD but others label me as such. I feel anxious when my home is not orderly. I believe that feeling comes from when I was a child and had little control over my environment. As an adult, I have control and I chose to live in a wholesome environment.
Ithaca Comments OCD relates to a false belief in a negative outcome from not performing rituals. That's not what you're describing. What you describe however has elements of OCPD. That's not to say you have it, but what you talk about sounds closer to OCPD than OCD. What's important is your happiness. If you're happy with your life how it is, then I'm happy for you. What tends to get tricky is relationships when you are rigid in your controlling tendencies. But if that's not the case, great. Thanks for the comment.
OCPD makes me want to hide and not exist most the time. So much to do. So many thoughts. So much pressure. So many things. It DRIVES ME INSANE AND IM LITERALLY GOING CRAZY. It. Never. Leaves. The thoughts just stay there and never leave.
I have both but i never would have known that ocpd existed if it were not for you. Thank you for helping people to understand themselves. Paranoia and dissociation and panic attacks are dailey events but now i am willing to do breathing exercises to help stay in my body. Those are from ocd. My ocpd is the opposite. The actions are calming and completing my ruteins serves a more functional purpose unless i get stuck in a single activity which is where hyperfous is both a blessing and curse. My ocpd is all day every day. My ocd can spike in response to things and may consume me for some time but fluctuates. I have a crazy female hormone cycle that plays with both these disorders. It is exhausting
Autism Enlightenment I can't imagine how exhausting having OCD on top of OCPD must be. Thanks for explaining how they both manifest themselves in you. What are the breathing exercises that work for you?
@@OCPD_support alternate nostril breathing is the one I like best but there is another one I was reccomended and it involves verbal vibration and that is the one I was told would reset my brainwaves.
@@OCPD_support I'm living in a tiny house at the moment so most of my books are in storage. Alternate nostril breathing is pretty self descriptive but im trying to find a name of the other one. According to the one book I have its called bhramari pranayama or humming bee breath. This stuff sounded way weird to me at first but if it helps - it helps. Breath is free and available any time you need it.
Abigail Escobar I'm so sorry that you're going through such a hard time. If you have any questions, you can always leave them for me. Thank you for watching.
Is there any relation between ocpd and math? I have an ocpd and I'm good at math, so I feel that both of them help each other to develop, especially in logic. But, if being smart makes me stressed and unhappy, I'd rather be stupid.
Ade Maulana drawing direct connections between special skills and personality disorders is not something I feel a professional therapist or psychiatrist would do. But there are elements of OCPD that could/might lend someone to excel in math. But I was sad to read your last statement. It's not an either/or situation. You can be smart and not stressed out and unhappy. Those things are not mutually exclusive. It takes time, a lot of work, and therapy. But it's worth all the effort. You can get to where you want to get to if you try.
not quite the same thing but when i got diagnosed i mentioned i enjoyed playing cards cause i found counting soothing and was told that is an ocd trait xD depends on your defiition of stupid, because self-awareness is a different thing, lack of self-awareness would be least stressful, someone could consider themselves stupid and also unhappy because they're aware of that judgement, i think putting value in such judgements will cause you stress either way, trust me i hate it as much as you but people arent as easily classifiable as numbers :/
I have OCPD and am notoriously bad at math. But i'm an award winning writer. I think what you excel at is influenced by a factor outside of OCPD, but how OCPD manifests in what a person excels at, is likely similiar to others w OCPD excelling in their respective field
Thank you. I have known I've had OCD for a long time but didnt understand or see a problem with my obsessive personality until I was wondering why I work so hard and put everything else on the back burner (family included). Im just learning about this since I've found out about it last night.
Larissa Elf thanks so much. I feel that this video is much better than the first one, but TH-cam won't recommend this one and so the numbers just keep going up on the original, haha.
Living through childhood trauma is an exhausting Lifepath to choose for myself. But as a deeply curious person committed to healing my unhealthy thought patterns and breaking unhealthy generational unwellness in my family once and for all. I feel like it is My Purpose to finish My Trauma healing journey. I have so many letter diagnosises it's overwhelming. So I guess I do kind of relate to not being able to identify as an OCPD. I accept I do have it, but I also accept there is not much I can do about it except keep it in my awareness and consider when or how it maybe causing complications in my life and relationships.
Toni Moore I thinking working through traumas can be highly beneficial. It's by no means an imperative, but I think a lot of good comes from it. So good for you for making the hard decision to tackle them.
Hi! I'm currenlty in confusion wheter i possibly has OCD or ODCP, as I have both symptomps and aware i have at least one of them. The thing is, I need everythin in most efficient way possible but i procasinate a lot, which in fact is OCPD but i also been told from my firends i have bad case os OCD, as I always check something too much. I will check my mail like 10 times before i send,a nd even then ill check again. I want to seek treatment but I'm not allowed to go to either psychiatrist and therapist, so i'm doing my best to try to be better at least a bit until i can afford myself. I know i can't self diagnose, but i'm going crazy at this rate, just the thought of playing game not in order/efficiently will make my mind go crazy. For example, playing new games/studying new topics, i have to do it on Monday/First day of the month, If somehow i miss it (becasue i procasinate) i will have to redo it next week or month all over again, no matter if i already finishe dhalf of it. If i miss something in game i have the urge to redo all over again, to the point where its driving me crazy. I don't know what to do, and I'm really stressed
@YuuKonpaku I can understand very well how your situation would cause a great deal of stress. I'd be happy to try and make some suggestions, but I don't quite understand your situation. Why is it that you are not allowed to seek treatment? I would not waste time worrying about what your friends think you are experiencing. They are in no position to diagnose you, just like I would be in no position to diagnose you.
G Stans thank you for the feedback. The video is a little long winded I've been told, but I have newer content that is more to the point. I also recorded a brand new video yesterday that will be edited and uploaded by Wednesday next week.
Hey, just stumbled across your channel while seeking out OCPD hypnotherapy after no joy with a self help book search🤦🏻♀️ this is awesome thank you so much for creating these videos! I never know what the hell I am! Past therapists have labelled me with depression & Anxiety - but always seemed to bypass the fact that I cannot function without an over-planned ‘to do’ list, like literally struggle to make even the smallest decisions (what to eat/read/watch) without wasting hours making lists upon lists. I’m not sure if I have OCPD - I have the obsessive thinking, over analysing, a preoccupation with lists & the need to feel in control down to an art! But - here’s the stumbling block -I NEVER think I’m right. I second guess myself every single day. It only takes 3 words “are you sure?” & I breakout into a cold sweat 😂 But still, I’ve subscribed & will be tuning into these videos regularly (adding your channel to my to do list right now 👍)
yellygold thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you found my content. As I tell everyone, I'm in no position to diagnose anyone. Everything here is just conjecture and opinion. But the fact that you second guess yourself regularly wouldn't disqualify you from the potential of having OCPD. Many people with OCPD are terrible procrastinators as they are too scared that they'll make the wrong choices. If you ever have any specific questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them. I'll be careful not to respond with 'are you sure?'. ;)
@@OCPD_support that’s really interesting actually because I feel like I’ve spent my entire life procrastinating in order to avoid decision making (that was fine when I was younger-not so helpful in the adult world when decisions are expected of you everyday 🙄). It’s just so helpful to find further info on a BPD where there isn’t a great deal of information on the net (using layman’s terms anyway!) Thank you so much, I will definitely contact you with any questions. Yes, please do avoid the ‘are you sure’ trigger 😰 :)
My psychiatrist told me yesterday he wants me to look into OCD. I’ve been in and out of jail 4 times, quit 20 jobs in the first 3 days, and don’t leave my apt. I’m a very unorganized person but need routine. I thought I was on the spectrum but the OCD talk is depressing. I truly don’t relate to the OCD videos. I don’t think anyone understands me
Aehsino do you suspect that you're suffering from OCPD (what I cover in my content)? Or does that not seem to fit either. A psychiatrist probably shouldn't be telling you to look into things. They should probably be helping you understand yourself better. It may be time to seek out some new help if you're not getting anywhere with your current therapist. Also, for every disorder there is an answer. Finding it is just a matter of how hard you're willing to look.
The OCPD part was a surprise to me that it is even a disorder and not life qualifications. The OCD I always knew about but didn't realize the extent until recently, age 41.
@@OCPD_support That depends on the day. Mainly, it IS my life. My daily challenge is to better the day before. I find new ways to justify my behavior, and that's a win. Like I used to keep all of my lists. I couldn't throw them away until everything was crossed off, even if it was on the next days list. My biggest thing is research. One day I researched ways to break this habit, subsequently thrilled with the permission I was giving myself to research freely. Of course, I got 16 other things done and didn't research but the solution came to me regardless. I bought a shredder. I use it 3x a day and it is my best friend. My OCPD is all I'm about and I didn't ever see it until it was pointed out to me as what's holding me back, not propelling me forward. I thought my quirks were desirable and I had just really excelled in the fine art of folding and placing things artistically in drawers. Learning this news was like watching the last scene in the movie The Truman Show. I'm not quite sure how I move forward with this knowledge. My foundation, my core, my own self, not so good after all. My entire personality is...a disorder? I kinda liked it. Now, I feel like the joke is on me.
@@LisaLisa001 some people are more high functioning with it. But almost nobody can function well with OCPD within the confines of a relationship. You do a good job articulating what it's like to live with it. I'm sorry you're struggling to know how to move forward. Therapy is usually key. As is mindfulness. I have been trying forever to figure out how to make meditation work for myself with no success to speak of. What I did discover is that joy and excitement have the same affects on me that meditation has for others. So I've been surfing and participating in other adventurous hobbies and they really help to clear my mind and calm me. And when I'm calm, it's so much easier to manage my symptoms.
@@OCPD_support Thank you so much for this, I will use these tips, always looking for helpful stuff. I think my relationship thrives on the fact that although we talk all day every day, we only see one another once a week. It's been this way for over a year. My relationship with my daughters possibly thrives due to equal parenting time. I have my time to be me without constant guilt, they get a break. Lol. But to hear them tell it, that's just who I am and they love me and accept it. Especially when I help clean their rooms. I got tired of being passed around from therapist to therapist for over two decades. Maybe it's the right time to find the right therapist? I'd love to become the woman I thought I was.
@@LisaLisa001 it sounds like your'e ready. I think there are two main benefits that you can get from therapy. I don't necessarily think that you need to receive both benefits for it to be worth it. I think you can have a therapist that feels good to talk to. Someone whose personality meshes good with yours. One in which you leave their office feeling good. The other, and more important benefit, is being given the tools to manage whatever it is you're going through for all the hours you are not in a therapy session. As that's 99% of our time, that's going to be what you're really paying for. So although having a therapist that 'feels' good is a nice perk, sometimes we need to recognize that the methods they use are more important than the way they're delivered.
It is not that I don't know there is something wrong - but there is nothing I could do about it. When looking at the bigger picture on comparing how I'm doing certain things and how others doing the same thing, and when asked by others why I do certain things again and again - I can clearly understand there is something bit off about me. There is an acronym for it - do I need to repeat.. I only get more frustrated when others try to correct me or tell me how to do this and that. I am completely used to all this (being me) as long as I can remember. But all this becomes added trouble when I'm going through a depressed period. I've had a lot of trouble explaining myself when I happen to see a psychiatrist. Medical doctors Do Not understand any of that at all. So, in the end I'm all by myself with this. The thing about depression is; rumination and intrusive/repetitive thoughts - multiply any negative emotion "i-don-t-know-how-many-zeros" times.
Vishva Kumara you may do things differently than most, but there are also plenty of people like us suffering with these traits and learning how to live with them. And the logical conclusion is depression or anxiety or a mixture of both. There are people in this world that are well equipped and trained to help people like us. The trick is finding them. There is a lot of good literature and tactics you can implement. First you need to want to change, then you need to believe you can change and finally you need to find the right person to help you. All of these things are very difficult, but they are all also very possible. Thank you for sharing your experience with me.
Hey OCPD, nice video brother! If only there was more channels that spew out everything that they are going through, like my channel here too, we could get so much shit out of us that we constantly hold onto for dear life...fighting to let go basically. And I myself understand how hard it is to just let go sometimes, but it's the best thing to do, is admit that we are having a problem first, then we can heal from that problem, slowly, but eventually! Come join in on The SBN Lifestyle if any of you are looking for raw and real talks and ARTS related videos...Welcome!
I'm a little confused... I'm new to this, I just know that everything must be organized and perfect around me and specially the things I do. Though I always had these thoughts where no one understands me and even if it sounds bad, I see almost everyone as lesser human beings. What's wrong with me? Also very important that I like myself as I am and I don't want to change, I want everyone else to change even though I know that's not possible. OCD, OCPD or both? I just want directions, please help! Another note, it's extremely hard for me to focus on things. I must read the same sentences 5 to 7 times to understand them, cause when I read (even reading out loud) I think about something totally different. Also happens when someone is talking to me, I just wonder away staring at the person while thinking about other things o.O Great video by the way!
Dávid József Ferenczi thank you very much for your comment. I'm so sorry that you're suffering with all of these thoughts and that you're going through this. I can relate to much of what you talk about. And although I am able to identify that this sort of thinking is maladaptive and doesn't serve myself well, I do fall into these thought traps from time to time regardless. Much of what you discuss sounds like OCPD, but I'm in no position to identify what you are actually describing. I would strongly encourage you to see a mental health professional and to be honest with them as you have been in this comment. The last thing you describe in your comment doesn't sound as much like OCPD as it does maybe ADHD or something similar. I wish I could be of more help, but I'm happy to try to answer any other questions you might have.
I learned about 2ish months ago that I have OCPD and most likely OCD as well, still in the final stages of the testing process for OCD, and I feel like I almost had my entire life flash before my eyes - like I was able to see through another set a glasses like you described and understand why I'd suffered so much. Since then I almost feel like nothing is the same - not sure how to explain it but I'm still me but everything is different to me now. The fact that I have been dealing with the diagnosis of 2 deadly neurological disorders just this past March has not made it easier. I'm pretty resilient but damn... It would be great if I didn't have to be resilient for once. Especially when I can't even get an MRI to determine how severe my conditions have progressed to determine when I should get brain surgery. Like Jeez.
Rosalie L. Burgess that all sounds so difficult. I cannot imagine what you are going through. And I have felt that same feeling of "it would be nice if my life didn't require so much resilience". What I can tell you is that I did go through the same feelings and range of emotions after realizing I was dealing with OCPD. And it lasted a long time. But the more you learn and the more treatment you receive, the more those feelings go away. There was a real sense that I didn't know myself at all once I was diagnosed. That I was going to have to change everything if I wanted a healthy mind. In hindsight, I realize that wasn't the case at all and I'm very much the same person in so many ways. Ways that are important to me. I am wishing you all the best with everything you are going through.
I'm a person that has never been diagnosed by a professional however, things take me unreasonably longer than others because I exhibit behavior that's consistent with the organization symptom. I don't switch a light multiple times but if I'm set to a task my mind goes beyond "doing my best" I can't handle the phrase "good enough" Maybe I'm simply anal retentive but... Even that has a net negative.
Brian Brewer it's probably worth investigating further. OCD is much different to OCPD and switching lights on and off isn't a signifier of OCPD. It may just be a strong personality trait. But if it's causing you any unhappiness, you'd be better served by speaking with a professional. Thanks for leaving your comment.
i admit i am partially amused when watching your videos, every time i have to pause to argue back at the screen because i'm feeling, indeed, quite defensive 😅 lmao
mylife 23 that's a great question, and I don't believe I'm qualified to answer that definitively. I'm more familiar with ASD as it is talked about quite openly and quite a lot in OCPD support groups. To be fair, people mention ADHD as well, but I'm far less familiar with ADHD. For me, based on the information available, I think a standout difference between OCPD and ASD is that with ASD a defining trait is difficulty with communication and interaction with other people. When people with OCPD experience or display this type of trait, they are usually much more self aware of it and are able to choose whether or not to be agreeable or interact in a more socially expected way, especially with treatment.
I hope I can make it more clear by explaining my OCD and OCPD. I have a fear of bright lights. I always make sure that I face against such light sources. I have covered mirrors with newspapers so that light don't reflect. I try my best to avoid getting exposed to such lights. This is my OCD. I know that this is a mental disorder and I want to get rid of this but I'm helpless. I'm also a perfectionist. I want everything to be organised and planned before and follow the plan as it is. For eg:- I would assign a time to study History and make it sure that I start on time. Even if I'm late by a second I would feel bad and add the amount of time I'm late to my assigned time so that I don't waste my study time. I also have a habit of hearing news from local radio station. But if I'm late and miss the opening part I would feel dejected and would skip the entire part. This is my OCPD. But I love my perfectionism. Infact I feel glad that I'm a perfectionist I hate my OCD and I love my OCPD
Mallu Chico thank you for sharing your perspective. You're not the only person that has expressed that opinion to me. You say that you love your OCPD, but you also mention twice feeling bad and dejected, and those aren't positive emotional responses. I do understand what you mean though. There are some potential advantages to OCPD that do not exist with OCD. And that makes sense. There are people that for the most part can lead a relatively happy life with OCPD. But 9 times out of 10, those are people that do not feel the need to have romantic relationships. The number of people with severe OCPD that are in healthy relationships is very, very small. But if you're particular OCPD is not causing you too many problems and you're overall happy with it, I'd say that's a good thing. Thanks for watching.
Yes I feel very bad if I can't follow my schedule as planned. But that also motivates me to be on time from thereafter. What I'm feeling is that it's completely okay to live such a perfectionist lifestyle and it's my fault when I fail to obey at any point. I hate to live a disorganised life and that's why I love my OCPD. I also agree with your opinion on how OCPD affects relationships. Im single and I haven't felt a need to be in a relationship. OCPD makes a person inflexible making it difficult to be in a healthy relationship.
@@malluchico4193 well I'm just very happy that your OCPD is contributing to a productive life for you. I wish that is how it worked for most people. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Before I continue the video, I'd think ocd is "harder" to live with because of how the ticks and stuff bug the sufferer where as (at least for me.) Fixing the proverbial painting gives me relief; I want it done and I'll try my damnedest to do so. However its not the end of the world if I can't figure it out or if some 3rd party is in the way of my success. Let's see how close I was...
@@kittythekid3931 I can understand how admitting and believing are two different things. It can be tough to differentiate between being correct and being trapped in our own OCPD thoughts.
I always considered myself to have "light" ocd. The terminology i use is probably wrong but idk how to explain my situation better: i have intrusive thoughts that make me do stuff, even though i know they are irrational. For example, when i have had a happy day, the next day i will repeat the same things i did the previous day in order to find that happiness again. I decreased that over the years though. When i was 15-16 years old (2 years ago) my intrusive thoughts were enormous and so were my compulsions. Now i still suffer from intrusive thoughts but i fight them and i'm better. But i suspect i might have ocpd as well. I think i'm superior to other people and i also believe that my ways are the right ways. I might sound like a trashy person but i judge people A LOT and i dislike people who don't follow my ways. On the outside i seem like a really nice and kind person but only myself knows how superior i feel. I practice empathy and being accepting to difference though. Edit: I also tend to be workaholic and i think that any work is enough work. Do you think i might suffer from ocpd too?
Alice K thanks for the question. There are definite comorbidities with OCD & OCPD, so it is indeed possible to suffer from both. For the compulsions that feel irrational, they likely lean towards OCD. For the intrusive thoughts that feel justified, those could indicate a leaning towards OCPD. A mental health professional will be able to help you get to the bottom of it. But it sounds like you're having quite the internal struggle and you could benefit a lot from some type of treatment plan. Please let me know if you have any follow up questions.
Is it possible to have both?. I was diagnosed with OCPD but when I was a kid I remember having to stay up all night after being tucked in to organize, I can’t write unless it’s perfect exc obviously it’s absolutely horrible now but I try to maintain things.... I won’t go into now but I feel like I must have OCD with how I live my life..
Jessica Rose thanks for your comment. It is absolutely possible to have both. And I'm not in a position to diagnose or guide you. But I will say that the examples you give are both things I did when I was a kid as well, and I absolutely do not have OCD. That doesn't mean that you don't, but what you're describing doesn't necessarily mean OCD.
OCPD: My Life In Debris you’re absolutely right. There much more that I deal with then just those things, but I notice when I’m doing them, I can’t focus on anything unless everything is how it should be. My friend was power washing her truck the other day and I walked back and forth upstairs for an hour driving myself insane wondering if she was ok over and over. I check the windows repeatedly to make sure there’s no one home when clearly there isint this is every few minutes sometimes seconds depending on the situation. Same goes for doors and just generally repeatedly looking to see if anyone’s home when Nobody is! Which I know it a bit strange to people but this has been going on for my whole life. Logically it makes no sense so why does something inside of me need to? Want to? Have to?? I’m not sure and although some things I do make entirely no sense they somehow do to me, other things are entirely different and some people could compare to to some extent.. maybe. I have a lot of compulsions and it’s impossible to control and when I don’t double check I feel like I’m going crazy. I know I may not have OCD but from what I know people with OCPD don’t notice what there doing, it drives me insane and invades my life at home, work, public exc, I’m only giving these examples because this type of thing happens constantly. Yes there’s more to it and I’m not going to write my whole life down or anything but just the way it effects my life is unsettling. I hope more people find helpful ways to overcome certain stuff and live a healthier life with OCD, I live with BPD1 general anxiety and according to my med doctor who dropped me after a month, OCPD. which I don’t believe I have because I’m very mindful when things are normal, even if the things I do might seem insane to others, some things are something else entirely but when I’m good I’m good and I can tell that something isint adding up. I also am very messy! Thing is I don’t like the mess, it’s just when I clean... I clean. It needs to be perfect, or I can’t live with it and I get angrier then when I don’t bother because I know if I start, it’ll get worse and worse and worse and I’ll be doing it everyday till night, yes I clean but I have to keep it at a minimum in a sense and break it up into different parts of the day otherwise it takes over a part of life I feel more in control of now, yea maybe I’m a bit messier then some but that’s only because I trained myself to stop doing what I did sense I was a child. I used to have to rearrange my stuffed animals before I went to bed, straighten things out, my eyes would pop open every second I tried to settle back down in bed cuz I would notice something else. I really appreciate the advice!
@@jessicarose2090 that sounds like so much to be living with. If you were to have OCPD, your mind would be doing everything it could to convince you that you don't have OCPD. So be careful when dismissing the suggestion from a therapist that you might be suffering from that particular personality disorder. Again, I'm not saying that you have it, just that if you do you won't be the one in the best position to identify it. As I experience some of the things you describe, I know that although the things you do can be exhausting both mentally and physically, that doing them can also bring a strange form of comfort. So it's easy to be resistant to therapy or change or recovery because we hold on to those little moments of comfort and find them very difficult to abandon. But if you want to make progress you'll have to step out into the unknown and uncomfortable to bring about real positive change.
If you have both, can you come to terms with OCPD more easily? (I was diagnosed with OCD by a psychiatrist years ago. But today my therapist kind of casually brought up OCPD. I've been looking at both online and I can relate to both. I do feel like the OCD started when I was 12. But the OCPD started a little later than that, like towards the end of adolescence, early adulthood.) It *is* hard to come to terms with the OCPD label, because I already have identity issues because of child sexual abuse.
Jennifer Grove in my personal opinion I would say the opposite. An OCD diagnosis usually comes as a relief as the one suffering with OCD recognizes that something is wrong. Many with OCPD don't see themselves as having a problem and therefore tend to not agree with an OCPD diagnosis when it's first presented to them. I'm sorry that you are having to go through all of this.
It is a Personality Disorder, not exactly an illness. An illness is something they can cure. These are what one Develops Into, and have to just learn how to live with it.
Vishva Kumara you are correct in that it can't be cured. But it can be subdued and managed, and if you really put in the hard work, it can be overcome.
@@omarshinwari7823 when I say it can be overcome, I mean it can get to the point where it's no longer a part of your life. I know we all want it to be gone overnight, but it does require work. The good thing is that life is such an amazing gift, that no matter how bad things are, it's always worth the work
the diagnostic manual is careful to specify that something is only a problem if it causes significant distress, so while its true that a pd isnt strictly curable in the cases considered improved the distress diminishing can mean no longer fitting the criteria and thus not classifiable as disordered
It has been very tricky for me to distinguish for myself which one I have, (even though you are quite clear in your explanation) because I seem to have elements of both going on at the same time. I feel as though I have OCPD in terms of it being a fixed way of thinking, however I also recognize it as a major problem and truly wish I didn't think this way. Like OCD, the thoughts are also intrusive, I know it is distorted irrational thinking, but the harder I try to shake it off by rationalizing, the more anxious I get. Any thoughts on this? Thanks a million. Appreciate this page.
John Vella thanks for your question/comment. Obviously I can't diagnose you, but it's important to know that it's possible to have both OCPD and OCD at the same time. I would say that it still sounds to me like you're mostly describing OCPD in your comment. The experience that you're describing illustrates why for some with OCPD, cognitive behavioral therapy can work. It's about sitting down with your thoughts and feelings and seeing them all the way through to their logical conclusions. I experience tremendous anxiety, but I'm able to manage it better not by rationalizing, but by understanding where the thoughts are coming from. These are much more complex issues than I can go deep into in a TH-cam reply. It's also possible that the anxiety is a result of irrational thoughts that are OCD, and in that case you'll need to approach them with a different treatment plan.
@@OCPD_support what treatment do have you the most success with? I have OCPD (and most likely OCD and ADHD as well) and I've tried four different SSRI's and all they do is make me apathetic and sleepy. I'm so desperate. I can barely function normally during my daily routine. I doubt everything I read and hear, I hold impossible high standards for all my coworkers and acquaintances which leads to me quickly pushing them away once they do or say something that displeases me. I have trouble prioritizing tasks, or even starting tasks because I NEED to know I'm doing things the most efficiently possible, which ironically leads to me procrastinating. My psychiatrist has yet to put me on some therapy other than meds, which so far haven't helped anything. I KNOW I most likely could use some CBT, but I don't know how to make him understand that I need it! I'm typing this comment during the night because my brain simply can't stop racing uncontrollably which leads to me not being able to relax and fall asleep. This happens almost every night. Sometimes the anxiety gets so bad I start crying in bed. I have terrible sleeping habits which only worsen my mood and performance during the day even more. I wish I could vanish from this world. I fantasize in my head about instantaneously disappearing into a cloud of dust. Just instant disappearance form this world... Please, respond And thanks
@@mariocc3472 my heart breaks reading this and I can relate to almost everything you typed up in your comment. Hopefully, I can offer some helpful suggestions. First off, if the person treating you is prescribing you medication, that makes them a psychiatrist (which I know you mentioned). But the thing about psychiatrists is their primary function is to treat patients with medications and then monitor their progress and any side effects. You are in desperate need of treatment, and for that, you would need to find a therapist. My therapist uses psychotherapy and it has worked excellently for me. For others CBT is great. And for even more there are a variety of methods that people have found success with. There are many paths to a healthy mind. You just need a therapist that is flexible and willing to work different methods until something clicks. I am on medications, but I am not on SSRIs as I had terrible reactions to them. Currently, I take a combination of medications including a wonderful SNRI. If you are being honest with your psychiatrist about how you're feeling on the medication and he isn't making any adjustments, I would strongly suggesting finding a doctor that listens.
Aurora Dijana would you be comfortable with me answering this question in a video? I'm planning a new series in which I give candid answers to questions from the comments. If so, please email me the same comment (you can just copy and paste) to darryl@ocpd.org Thanks.
I don't think distinguishing between these two is all that useful. I have spent the last year overcoming compulsions, mostly fueled by "irrational" intrusive thoughts, which is considered OCD... But what I have found is that unless I also let go of my perfectionism, need for certainty, and controlling compulsions (considered ocpd) my suffering continues. It's like a game of whack-a-mole! I've found cutting out ALL compulsions, regardless of how rational or normal seeming they are to be much more useful. Yes, it is terribly uncomfortable to let go of control, to accept my fears of things falling apart, but the benefits to my relationships and happiness have been huge.
Lekadinkadink I would disagree that distinguishing between the two is not useful. There are therapeutic techniques that produce different results depending on which one you're treating. However, I would agree with your reason for thinking it's unimportant when it comes to tackling compulsions. Whatever the reason for the compulsion, as you said, cutting them all out is more useful. And I'm so glad that you're currently reaping the rewards of letting go of control. Thanks for the comment.
i relate. my therapist has told me many times that fixating on diagnostic definitions is me trying to feel in control and avoiding adressing the actual problem xD i'm still working on letting go, your comment gave me hope so thank u for that :3
Radek Pilich there are no 'hard, fast' numbers on OCPD at all. The lowest estimates put it at 1% of the population. New data suggests it's between 2 to 8%. What those numbers tell me is that nobody knows for sure and they're all just guessing. A 6 - 7% range is massive. Anecdotally I would have an incredibly difficult time believing the number is at 8%. I'm much more inclined to believe 1 - 2%. However, I'm sure a much larger percentage of the population displays some OCPD traits. Thanks for your question.
misdiagnosis is a big problem trying to get precise numbers, bpd and bipolar also have a gap like that one in precision, given how often ocd gets used interchangeably while being more common than ocpd makes measuring either highly unreliable
Kat Barz if inheriting OCPD is possible, it would be by being exposed to OCPD behaviors from a parent or caretaker during formative years. Essentially imprinting the brain. However, nobody knows for sure if 'inheriting' is definitively a cause. There are many as well that believe a traumatic event in ones youth could lead to OCPD characteristics manifesting during adolescence.
The left drawing is Caterpillar in yellow color and Butterfly in green....You didn't wrote your thoughts, right? you drawing it. I saw it again. It is Dragonfly. :)
Like i have this feeling or idk what is . Like i have to touch things or anythins with my left hand then with my both hands then with my right hand . And doing things 3 times . And i can't control it . I can't stop thinking about everything . And Feeling very anxious . Can be this ocd? Is this ocd? ( ps : If there are any mistakes, do not pay attention to them, because I am not an American) And thank you
Yasushi Sama please never apologize for writing mistakes. Especially to a native English speaker. Being able to speak (or write in) more than one language is very impressive, and very few native English speakers are bilingual. So be proud of your English. What you describe sounds like OCD. I am not in a position to diagnose. But I would look for some online support. There are many online support groups for OCD. And if you would like to know and be diagnosed and receive help, seeking out a therapist or a mental health professional is the best thing that you can do for yourself. It may seem like your feelings would be impossible to change, but they can be changed. You can be happy and you can calm your brain. You just need to open yourself up to the idea of therapy. Thanks for leaving your comment :)
Hosoi Archives the short answer is yes. The absolute best treatment for OCPD is therapy combined with a healthy lifestyle that includes the practice of mindfulness. However, there isn't a particular form of therapy that is unanimously viewed as the best treatment for OCPD. Nor are there any particular medications that target OCPD specifically. It is best to find a therapist that is a good match personality-wise and to work towards self improvement from there.
@sleepnomore6065 that is a very interesting question. I cannot give a definitive answer, but it would be my opinion that people with OCPD could be attracted to that sort of rigid lifestyle.
I have a burning 🔥 question: who suffers more? The individual with ocpd, or the family members of the person with ocpd, I’m related to the individual who has ocpd and I am a tortured soul to this day.
browneyedgirl428 thanks for the question. I am so sorry to hear that you are being tortured by the situation you find yourself in. The question you ask is very subjective, and I'm not sure that an answer to that question would help you in any way. If the person with OCPD is not receiving treatment and is resistant to the idea of treatment, the next best thing would be for you to find a mental health professional to speak with. A professional will help give you clarity and perspective and would hopefully allow you to see what solutions/options lie before you.
@@OCPD_support I have been in therapy for the last few months and my therapist is an expert on personality disorders, but there is not enough data on ocpd because it’s an uncommon personality disorder. Also my loved one with ocpd (we will call her aunt Bonnie) had her 42nd wedding anniversary yesterday and I find it rather pathetic that my uncle Peter did not leave her ass years ago. My aunt & uncle raised me, I just can’t handle the fact that my uncle has enabled my aunt in her ocpd ways all these years.
@@browneyedgirl4285 if you're willing to share, I would be interested in knowing if the therapy has helped you to make any decisions regarding how you should handle the relationship with "aunt Bonnie" moving forward? Also, think about how much judgment you feel from the person with OCPD and how that makes you feel. This might help you to reduce the judgments you are making against your uncle.
@@OCPD_support I’m in therapy primarily for the purpose of handling my pending divorce and that’s helpful, as far as dealing with aunt Bonnie, I am not remotely over it, my aunt and uncle raised me and I see them as mom and dad. After I left my husband, my kids and I lived with my aunt and uncle for 14 months, it was an absolute nightmare. I have a background in mental health coding and I paged through the dsm 5 one day, only to find that my aunt has textbook ocpd. While my kids and I moved out 2 months ago, I’m still traumatized over the dynamic between my aunt and uncle. My uncle has always loved me like his own and I’m fed up over the fact that he treated my kids and I poorly to appease his wife and her ocpd ways. I would want to divorce that person if they treat me bad, and I think my uncle is complacent for not leaving her years ago.
@@browneyedgirl4285 I'm sure your therapist has already told you that your feelings are completely understandable given the situation. I don't want to overstep and give you my thoughts when you are already talking to a therapist. But I think privately confronting your uncle with your feelings is probably the only way you are going to start to heal from this traumatic experience.
The Sarge thanks for your question. Here is one of the ways in which the word compulsion is defined - 'an irresistible urge to behave in a certain way'. So the urge or 'thought' is part of the compulsion itself.
depends on the disorder, classic ocd its the actions but in ocpd reinforcing beliefs that one knows are dysfunctional is a choice (action) that is technically optional but giving in to the temptation of following through with it for emotional reasons (fear of what doing otherwise may bring) is compulsive. should i give u an example? lets say i believe all men are bad ut i also know there are too many men out there for one of them to perhaps be not bad, but if i know that and decide to never interact with a man because hoping the exception to my belief will manifest is not as tolerable as simply not taking the risk and continuing to behave as one would were that belief true despite being aware that it isnt? actions as unjustifiable as any cleaning compulsions.
i’ve been planning out how to completely “restart” my life because how i’ve lived it in the past hasn’t been perfect. i’ve planned out what time i’ll make my social media accounts and have even constructed how i’ll respond to certain things. it’s super hard :(
same. u ever feel like u wanna move out. new name. new life. new personality. new country new language just cos ur old life was not good enough. even with tasks, like cleaning or making something esoecially if its not exactley how i want it, il give up with it; before i give up iwth it i speand a longgg time with it however
Flavio Menezes thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if I understand the question. Could you give me an example so that I can try to answer your question the best that I can?
Thank you for your attention. Some people report having intrusive visual thoughts like mentally seeing a picture of themselves harming a loved one. Sometimes when I mentally visualize the face of someone I like, the face of the person is added with wounds and disgusting things and this gives me a lot of anxiety. I'm not hallucianting though, it is all just thoughts. My psychiatrist told me that intrusive images can be caused by ocpd but I don't think he's right; I have the feeling that this must be caused by an anxiety disorder such as ocd. I'm going through a very difficult moment in my life right now; my psychiatrist was very close to sending me to a cingulotomy surgery for ocd but he suddenly changed his mind and now thinks I have ocpd and not ocd thus making the surgery pointless for my case. I think I have both disorders and ocd is responsible for the greater part of my suffering. What are your thoughts on all of this?
Flavio Menezes thank you for clarifying. I believe that you are correct. Obviously I'm not a professional, so I don't want to advise you to go against the person treating you. However, the intrusive thoughts you experience seem like the sort of obsessive compulsive thoughts that traditionally go along with OCD. I do visualize/dream of bad things happening to loved ones, but I have obsessive thoughts about death in general. In those thoughts I'm never the cause of the harm or death. It's more of a panic/worry state. OCD and OCPD can have comorbidity, so it's possible that you have both as well.
@@plebiu i personally do get instantaneous uncontrollable images because of my ocpd but they're usually triggered by context, as in while trying to make a decision the way it could go wrong pops up in all its variations, but its my imagination overeacting to posibilities, if the images you get are random and disconnected, or blatantly irrational thats ocd probs. ocpd fears feel rational, like fears everyone should have, ocd doesnt.
The Sarge I've been wanting to do this for a while. I have someone in particular in mind and I just need to find a way to schedule it. So hopefully someday soon you'll get your wish.
Cool Beans religious thoughts in general are of course fine. But it's possible that your belief in religion is tied directly to a person's OCPD. Or if the person is no longer religious, they may have compulsive guilty thoughts or feel shame over things that they were taught through their faith that they no longer believe. So having those types of thoughts would be having unwanted religious thoughts.
Roots of Truth. thanks for your comment. It's a difficult one to answer as mental health professionals keep changing definitions year after year. I would say that one difference that seems applicable to most is that those with OCPD both have the ability to recognize behaviors that would seem outside of the social norms and the ability to control them. I have known many people with OCPD and with Asperger's and in practical and outward terms, they are generally easy to identify. However, there are those that believe there is a connection between the two. I am not one of those people, but you are not alone in seeing similarities.
@@OCPD_support I'm diagnosed with Asperger's and OCD . I never heard of ocpd until now. I have bad socail skills and sensory overload alot and extream one track focus weather it be a hobby or a fear.
@@MRSludgedude I'm sorry that you are going through all of that. It sounds like a lot. I would say that your diagnosis sounds accurate based on your comment.
I have aspergers too, and from what I understand rumination is very common for us. Usually around social blunders, like scripting ahead of times or replaying scenarios to try to find out why our conversation partner seemed to reject us. But- OCD is commonly comorbid with asd.
@@kr3642 yea mine is a bit of both. But I have learned to mimic behaviour basically as a big phycological test lol. Amazing what telling people what they want to hear can do.
R Joze I'm very sorry to hear that. Are you in any support groups or do you have a therapist? There is a lot of help available to make sure that the OCD doesn't negatively impact the quality of your life.
D Hawks it's not like I knew what I was doing when I got into this. My videos are becoming shorter and more succinct with time. I'm learning. But thanks for the new nickname 🤣
@@dhawks4056 no worries. I can't even go back and watch my old videos. I promise they're getting better. The one I recorded yesterday is like 6 minutes long or so.
Tim Cook sometimes you just have things you want to get off of your mind. When you upload your OCPD video I'd be happy to stop by and critique it as well.
izza rosydiana thank you for watching. All of my episodes are auto-translated. If you go to the setting in the bottom right of the video, go to subtitles and click on 'auto translate' it will let you pick Indonesian as a language. I just tested it and it works.
Vpprofフプロフ I'm not going to say that you're wrong, because you're not. And I'm not going to say that I'm not going to do that, as it's something I was already planning on not doing anymore. But what I will say is that this is my content and this is my channel and if you're unhappy with the way I present the material, you're welcome to find someone else that discusses OCPD in depth elsewhere.
You must be young? Life is unpredictable - always has been, always will be... live with it. Complaining accomplishes nothing. You are getting what information you get here for free!. Offer up say $200 an hour - and he might consider a regular schedule seriously?
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First Last you are very correct. Thank you.
I have watched you before. I've been struggling all my life and it is so easy to try to let it win and take over. For me it is work related and I let my life outside of work crumble. So here I am starting again. You have helped me so much and I am enternally grateful.
Brandon Dawson I'm so sorry to hear that. It sounds like you are trying to help yourself though. If you have any questions for me I'm happy to try and answer them. Thanks for your comment.
You look like a combo of middle aged Ryan Reynolds and young Robert Downey Jr.
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dubstepgirl28 thanks on both counts. And thanks for watching!
ive recently been informed by a therapist to check out OCPD as i was previously misdiagnosed with ocd and i started crying with how much this is me. i didn’t know.... this is hard
Sam I'm so sorry that you're currently struggling with this. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'd be happy to try and answer them.
I grew up in total chaos. From a young age I focused on having my space (bedroom) clean and organized.
Sometimes I would clean and organize the whole house but I gave up because I became so frustrated.
As an adult, my home has always been clean and organized. I have a standard. I don't believe that I am OCD but others label me as such. I feel anxious when my home is not orderly. I believe that feeling comes from when I was a child and had little control over my environment. As an adult, I have control and I chose to live in a wholesome environment.
Ithaca Comments OCD relates to a false belief in a negative outcome from not performing rituals. That's not what you're describing. What you describe however has elements of OCPD. That's not to say you have it, but what you talk about sounds closer to OCPD than OCD. What's important is your happiness. If you're happy with your life how it is, then I'm happy for you. What tends to get tricky is relationships when you are rigid in your controlling tendencies. But if that's not the case, great. Thanks for the comment.
OCPD makes me want to hide and not exist most the time. So much to do. So many thoughts. So much pressure. So many things. It DRIVES ME INSANE AND IM LITERALLY GOING CRAZY. It. Never. Leaves. The thoughts just stay there and never leave.
Selby Hill are you currently doing anything to treat it? Do you have any questions I might be able to answer?
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I have both but i never would have known that ocpd existed if it were not for you. Thank you for helping people to understand themselves. Paranoia and dissociation and panic attacks are dailey events but now i am willing to do breathing exercises to help stay in my body. Those are from ocd. My ocpd is the opposite. The actions are calming and completing my ruteins serves a more functional purpose unless i get stuck in a single activity which is where hyperfous is both a blessing and curse. My ocpd is all day every day. My ocd can spike in response to things and may consume me for some time but fluctuates. I have a crazy female hormone cycle that plays with both these disorders. It is exhausting
Autism Enlightenment I can't imagine how exhausting having OCD on top of OCPD must be. Thanks for explaining how they both manifest themselves in you. What are the breathing exercises that work for you?
@@OCPD_support alternate nostril breathing is the one I like best but there is another one I was reccomended and it involves verbal vibration and that is the one I was told would reset my brainwaves.
Autism Enlightenment very cool. I'll have to look up some information on these.
@@OCPD_support I'm living in a tiny house at the moment so most of my books are in storage. Alternate nostril breathing is pretty self descriptive but im trying to find a name of the other one. According to the one book I have its called bhramari pranayama or humming bee breath. This stuff sounded way weird to me at first but if it helps - it helps. Breath is free and available any time you need it.
@@autismenlightenment thank you for the rec :D
Thanks. Another helpful resource is that book "30 Days to Stop Obsessing" by Harper Daniels.
TheOtherWay thanks. I just got my first Kindle today. I'll add it to my download list.
Thank you. It really helps. I have OCD but i wonders if i suffer from OCPD too. This is really hard.
Abigail Escobar I'm so sorry that you're going through such a hard time. If you have any questions, you can always leave them for me. Thank you for watching.
Is there any relation between ocpd and math? I have an ocpd and I'm good at math, so I feel that both of them help each other to develop, especially in logic. But, if being smart makes me stressed and unhappy, I'd rather be stupid.
Ade Maulana drawing direct connections between special skills and personality disorders is not something I feel a professional therapist or psychiatrist would do. But there are elements of OCPD that could/might lend someone to excel in math. But I was sad to read your last statement. It's not an either/or situation. You can be smart and not stressed out and unhappy. Those things are not mutually exclusive. It takes time, a lot of work, and therapy. But it's worth all the effort. You can get to where you want to get to if you try.
not quite the same thing but when i got diagnosed i mentioned i enjoyed playing cards cause i found counting soothing and was told that is an ocd trait xD depends on your defiition of stupid, because self-awareness is a different thing, lack of self-awareness would be least stressful, someone could consider themselves stupid and also unhappy because they're aware of that judgement, i think putting value in such judgements will cause you stress either way, trust me i hate it as much as you but people arent as easily classifiable as numbers :/
I have OCPD and am notoriously bad at math. But i'm an award winning writer. I think what you excel at is influenced by a factor outside of OCPD, but how OCPD manifests in what a person excels at, is likely similiar to others w OCPD excelling in their respective field
I have ocpd and I suck in math lol..I mean I'm decent in basic math,but terrible in even slightly more advanced math
Thank you. I have known I've had OCD for a long time but didnt understand or see a problem with my obsessive personality until I was wondering why I work so hard and put everything else on the back burner (family included). Im just learning about this since I've found out about it last night.
jinxy75 well thank you for watching some of my content! If you have any questions at all, please feel free to ask them.
That was very good. I think I will watch the first one again...both give so much good information and make the the distinction quite clear.
Larissa Elf thanks so much. I feel that this video is much better than the first one, but TH-cam won't recommend this one and so the numbers just keep going up on the original, haha.
Living through childhood trauma is an exhausting Lifepath to choose for myself. But as a deeply curious person committed to healing my unhealthy thought patterns and breaking unhealthy generational unwellness in my family once and for all. I feel like it is My Purpose to finish My Trauma healing journey. I have so many letter diagnosises it's overwhelming. So I guess I do kind of relate to not being able to identify as an OCPD. I accept I do have it, but I also accept there is not much I can do about it except keep it in my awareness and consider when or how it maybe causing complications in my life and relationships.
Toni Moore I thinking working through traumas can be highly beneficial. It's by no means an imperative, but I think a lot of good comes from it. So good for you for making the hard decision to tackle them.
Hi! I'm currenlty in confusion wheter i possibly has OCD or ODCP, as I have both symptomps and aware i have at least one of them. The thing is, I need everythin in most efficient way possible but i procasinate a lot, which in fact is OCPD but i also been told from my firends i have bad case os OCD, as I always check something too much. I will check my mail like 10 times before i send,a nd even then ill check again. I want to seek treatment but I'm not allowed to go to either psychiatrist and therapist, so i'm doing my best to try to be better at least a bit until i can afford myself. I know i can't self diagnose, but i'm going crazy at this rate, just the thought of playing game not in order/efficiently will make my mind go crazy. For example, playing new games/studying new topics, i have to do it on Monday/First day of the month, If somehow i miss it (becasue i procasinate) i will have to redo it next week or month all over again, no matter if i already finishe dhalf of it. If i miss something in game i have the urge to redo all over again, to the point where its driving me crazy. I don't know what to do, and I'm really stressed
@YuuKonpaku I can understand very well how your situation would cause a great deal of stress. I'd be happy to try and make some suggestions, but I don't quite understand your situation. Why is it that you are not allowed to seek treatment? I would not waste time worrying about what your friends think you are experiencing. They are in no position to diagnose you, just like I would be in no position to diagnose you.
Great video. Thank you. My daughter is handling mental disorder and this is a great start to needed support. 🔥👊🤗
G Stans thank you for the feedback. The video is a little long winded I've been told, but I have newer content that is more to the point. I also recorded a brand new video yesterday that will be edited and uploaded by Wednesday next week.
For some reason this video is very informative. Thanks.
wez thank you for letting me know. Let me know if any questions pop up. Thanks for watching.
@@OCPD_support I never knew about OCPD. I always thought I had OCD, but it never clicked.
Hey, just stumbled across your channel while seeking out OCPD hypnotherapy after no joy with a self help book search🤦🏻♀️ this is awesome thank you so much for creating these videos!
I never know what the hell I am! Past therapists have labelled me with depression & Anxiety - but always seemed to bypass the fact that I cannot function without an over-planned ‘to do’ list, like literally struggle to make even the smallest decisions (what to eat/read/watch) without wasting hours making lists upon lists.
I’m not sure if I have OCPD - I have the obsessive thinking, over analysing, a preoccupation with lists & the need to feel in control down to an art! But - here’s the stumbling block -I NEVER think I’m right. I second guess myself every single day. It only takes 3 words “are you sure?” & I breakout into a cold sweat 😂
But still, I’ve subscribed & will be tuning into these videos regularly (adding your channel to my to do list right now 👍)
yellygold thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you found my content. As I tell everyone, I'm in no position to diagnose anyone. Everything here is just conjecture and opinion. But the fact that you second guess yourself regularly wouldn't disqualify you from the potential of having OCPD. Many people with OCPD are terrible procrastinators as they are too scared that they'll make the wrong choices. If you ever have any specific questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them. I'll be careful not to respond with 'are you sure?'. ;)
@@OCPD_support that’s really interesting actually because I feel like I’ve spent my entire life procrastinating in order to avoid decision making (that was fine when I was younger-not so helpful in the adult world when decisions are expected of you everyday 🙄). It’s just so helpful to find further info on a BPD where there isn’t a great deal of information on the net (using layman’s terms anyway!)
Thank you so much, I will definitely contact you with any questions. Yes, please do avoid the ‘are you sure’ trigger 😰 :)
@@yellygold I'll be here whenever you have a question. And yes, adulting is hard.
Outstanding video. Thank you for the information.
William Evans you don't know how much that means! Thank you so much.
My psychiatrist told me yesterday he wants me to look into OCD. I’ve been in and out of jail 4 times, quit 20 jobs in the first 3 days, and don’t leave my apt. I’m a very unorganized person but need routine. I thought I was on the spectrum but the OCD talk is depressing. I truly don’t relate to the OCD videos. I don’t think anyone understands me
Aehsino do you suspect that you're suffering from OCPD (what I cover in my content)? Or does that not seem to fit either. A psychiatrist probably shouldn't be telling you to look into things. They should probably be helping you understand yourself better. It may be time to seek out some new help if you're not getting anywhere with your current therapist. Also, for every disorder there is an answer. Finding it is just a matter of how hard you're willing to look.
Honestly, what you're describing sounds more like borderline personality disorder (bpd)
i think you should consider avoidant pd or schizoid, no good reason for why i think this though :S a hunch at best
The OCPD part was a surprise to me that it is even a disorder and not life qualifications. The OCD I always knew about but didn't realize the extent until recently, age 41.
L K do you find that the OCPD is something that you feel is a benefit? Or is it something that makes life more difficult?
@@OCPD_support That depends on the day. Mainly, it IS my life. My daily challenge is to better the day before. I find new ways to justify my behavior, and that's a win. Like I used to keep all of my lists. I couldn't throw them away until everything was crossed off, even if it was on the next days list. My biggest thing is research. One day I researched ways to break this habit, subsequently thrilled with the permission I was giving myself to research freely. Of course, I got 16 other things done and didn't research but the solution came to me regardless. I bought a shredder. I use it 3x a day and it is my best friend.
My OCPD is all I'm about and I didn't ever see it until it was pointed out to me as what's holding me back, not propelling me forward. I thought my quirks were desirable and I had just really excelled in the fine art of folding and placing things artistically in drawers.
Learning this news was like watching the last scene in the movie The Truman Show. I'm not quite sure how I move forward with this knowledge. My foundation, my core, my own self, not so good after all. My entire personality is...a disorder? I kinda liked it. Now, I feel like the joke is on me.
@@LisaLisa001 some people are more high functioning with it. But almost nobody can function well with OCPD within the confines of a relationship. You do a good job articulating what it's like to live with it. I'm sorry you're struggling to know how to move forward. Therapy is usually key. As is mindfulness. I have been trying forever to figure out how to make meditation work for myself with no success to speak of. What I did discover is that joy and excitement have the same affects on me that meditation has for others. So I've been surfing and participating in other adventurous hobbies and they really help to clear my mind and calm me. And when I'm calm, it's so much easier to manage my symptoms.
@@OCPD_support Thank you so much for this, I will use these tips, always looking for helpful stuff. I think my relationship thrives on the fact that although we talk all day every day, we only see one another once a week. It's been this way for over a year. My relationship with my daughters possibly thrives due to equal parenting time. I have my time to be me without constant guilt, they get a break. Lol. But to hear them tell it, that's just who I am and they love me and accept it. Especially when I help clean their rooms. I got tired of being passed around from therapist to therapist for over two decades. Maybe it's the right time to find the right therapist? I'd love to become the woman I thought I was.
@@LisaLisa001 it sounds like your'e ready. I think there are two main benefits that you can get from therapy. I don't necessarily think that you need to receive both benefits for it to be worth it. I think you can have a therapist that feels good to talk to. Someone whose personality meshes good with yours. One in which you leave their office feeling good. The other, and more important benefit, is being given the tools to manage whatever it is you're going through for all the hours you are not in a therapy session. As that's 99% of our time, that's going to be what you're really paying for. So although having a therapist that 'feels' good is a nice perk, sometimes we need to recognize that the methods they use are more important than the way they're delivered.
It is not that I don't know there is something wrong - but there is nothing I could do about it. When looking at the bigger picture on comparing how I'm doing certain things and how others doing the same thing, and when asked by others why I do certain things again and again - I can clearly understand there is something bit off about me. There is an acronym for it - do I need to repeat..
I only get more frustrated when others try to correct me or tell me how to do this and that. I am completely used to all this (being me) as long as I can remember.
But all this becomes added trouble when I'm going through a depressed period. I've had a lot of trouble explaining myself when I happen to see a psychiatrist. Medical doctors Do Not understand any of that at all. So, in the end I'm all by myself with this.
The thing about depression is; rumination and intrusive/repetitive thoughts - multiply any negative emotion "i-don-t-know-how-many-zeros" times.
Vishva Kumara you may do things differently than most, but there are also plenty of people like us suffering with these traits and learning how to live with them.
And the logical conclusion is depression or anxiety or a mixture of both. There are people in this world that are well equipped and trained to help people like us. The trick is finding them. There is a lot of good literature and tactics you can implement. First you need to want to change, then you need to believe you can change and finally you need to find the right person to help you. All of these things are very difficult, but they are all also very possible. Thank you for sharing your experience with me.
Keep the videos coming you’re a natural! And the glasses look great 👍🏻
ADHD Superpowers thank you so much for all of the positive feedback. It's great motivation.
Hey OCPD, nice video brother! If only there was more channels that spew out everything that they are going through, like my channel here too, we could get so much shit out of us that we constantly hold onto for dear life...fighting to let go basically. And I myself understand how hard it is to just let go sometimes, but it's the best thing to do, is admit that we are having a problem first, then we can heal from that problem, slowly, but eventually! Come join in on The SBN Lifestyle if any of you are looking for raw and real talks and ARTS related videos...Welcome!
The SBN Lifestyle thanks man for sharing. I'm jumping over now to take a look. And there should definitely be more channels like ours!
Thank you a lot. this helped me so much
Settler System you're very welcome. Please let me know if you ever have any questions.
I'm a little confused... I'm new to this, I just know that everything must be organized and perfect around me and specially the things I do. Though I always had these thoughts where no one understands me and even if it sounds bad, I see almost everyone as lesser human beings. What's wrong with me? Also very important that I like myself as I am and I don't want to change, I want everyone else to change even though I know that's not possible. OCD, OCPD or both? I just want directions, please help! Another note, it's extremely hard for me to focus on things. I must read the same sentences 5 to 7 times to understand them, cause when I read (even reading out loud) I think about something totally different. Also happens when someone is talking to me, I just wonder away staring at the person while thinking about other things o.O Great video by the way!
Dávid József Ferenczi thank you very much for your comment. I'm so sorry that you're suffering with all of these thoughts and that you're going through this. I can relate to much of what you talk about. And although I am able to identify that this sort of thinking is maladaptive and doesn't serve myself well, I do fall into these thought traps from time to time regardless. Much of what you discuss sounds like OCPD, but I'm in no position to identify what you are actually describing. I would strongly encourage you to see a mental health professional and to be honest with them as you have been in this comment. The last thing you describe in your comment doesn't sound as much like OCPD as it does maybe ADHD or something similar. I wish I could be of more help, but I'm happy to try to answer any other questions you might have.
I learned about 2ish months ago that I have OCPD and most likely OCD as well, still in the final stages of the testing process for OCD, and I feel like I almost had my entire life flash before my eyes - like I was able to see through another set a glasses like you described and understand why I'd suffered so much. Since then I almost feel like nothing is the same - not sure how to explain it but I'm still me but everything is different to me now. The fact that I have been dealing with the diagnosis of 2 deadly neurological disorders just this past March has not made it easier. I'm pretty resilient but damn... It would be great if I didn't have to be resilient for once. Especially when I can't even get an MRI to determine how severe my conditions have progressed to determine when I should get brain surgery. Like Jeez.
Rosalie L. Burgess that all sounds so difficult. I cannot imagine what you are going through. And I have felt that same feeling of "it would be nice if my life didn't require so much resilience". What I can tell you is that I did go through the same feelings and range of emotions after realizing I was dealing with OCPD. And it lasted a long time. But the more you learn and the more treatment you receive, the more those feelings go away. There was a real sense that I didn't know myself at all once I was diagnosed. That I was going to have to change everything if I wanted a healthy mind. In hindsight, I realize that wasn't the case at all and I'm very much the same person in so many ways. Ways that are important to me. I am wishing you all the best with everything you are going through.
@@OCPD_support Thank you, I will try to keep the things you've said in perspective throughout this time. I really appreciate it.
I'm a person that has never been diagnosed by a professional however, things take me unreasonably longer than others because I exhibit behavior that's consistent with the organization symptom. I don't switch a light multiple times but if I'm set to a task my mind goes beyond "doing my best" I can't handle the phrase "good enough"
Maybe I'm simply anal retentive but... Even that has a net negative.
Brian Brewer it's probably worth investigating further. OCD is much different to OCPD and switching lights on and off isn't a signifier of OCPD. It may just be a strong personality trait. But if it's causing you any unhappiness, you'd be better served by speaking with a professional. Thanks for leaving your comment.
@@OCPD_support I appreciate your reply. Keep up the good work!
i admit i am partially amused when watching your videos, every time i have to pause to argue back at the screen because i'm feeling, indeed, quite defensive 😅 lmao
im19ice3 well it isn't my best video, so I'm sure I'd pause it and argue with myself if I watched it back ;)
What's the difference if ADHD with OCPD vs ADHD and ASD ? What are the difference(s) between the two combinations?
mylife 23 that's a great question, and I don't believe I'm qualified to answer that definitively. I'm more familiar with ASD as it is talked about quite openly and quite a lot in OCPD support groups. To be fair, people mention ADHD as well, but I'm far less familiar with ADHD. For me, based on the information available, I think a standout difference between OCPD and ASD is that with ASD a defining trait is difficulty with communication and interaction with other people. When people with OCPD experience or display this type of trait, they are usually much more self aware of it and are able to choose whether or not to be agreeable or interact in a more socially expected way, especially with treatment.
I hope I can make it more clear by explaining my OCD and OCPD.
I have a fear of bright lights. I always make sure that I face against such light sources. I have covered mirrors with newspapers so that light don't reflect. I try my best to avoid getting exposed to such lights. This is my OCD. I know that this is a mental disorder and I want to get rid of this but I'm helpless.
I'm also a perfectionist. I want everything to be organised and planned before and follow the plan as it is. For eg:- I would assign a time to study History and make it sure that I start on time. Even if I'm late by a second I would feel bad and add the amount of time I'm late to my assigned time so that I don't waste my study time. I also have a habit of hearing news from local radio station. But if I'm late and miss the opening part I would feel dejected and would skip the entire part. This is my OCPD. But I love my perfectionism. Infact I feel glad that I'm a perfectionist
I hate my OCD and I love my OCPD
Mallu Chico thank you for sharing your perspective. You're not the only person that has expressed that opinion to me. You say that you love your OCPD, but you also mention twice feeling bad and dejected, and those aren't positive emotional responses. I do understand what you mean though. There are some potential advantages to OCPD that do not exist with OCD. And that makes sense. There are people that for the most part can lead a relatively happy life with OCPD. But 9 times out of 10, those are people that do not feel the need to have romantic relationships. The number of people with severe OCPD that are in healthy relationships is very, very small. But if you're particular OCPD is not causing you too many problems and you're overall happy with it, I'd say that's a good thing. Thanks for watching.
Yes I feel very bad if I can't follow my schedule as planned. But that also motivates me to be on time from thereafter. What I'm feeling is that it's completely okay to live such a perfectionist lifestyle and it's my fault when I fail to obey at any point. I hate to live a disorganised life and that's why I love my OCPD. I also agree with your opinion on how OCPD affects relationships. Im single and I haven't felt a need to be in a relationship. OCPD makes a person inflexible making it difficult to be in a healthy relationship.
@@malluchico4193 well I'm just very happy that your OCPD is contributing to a productive life for you. I wish that is how it worked for most people. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Now I know the difference. Thanks.
S. Peters you're welcome. Please let me know if you ever have any questions.
I swear this guy never blinks
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TF1 MIE 😳
Before I continue the video, I'd think ocd is "harder" to live with because of how the ticks and stuff bug the sufferer where as (at least for me.) Fixing the proverbial painting gives me relief; I want it done and I'll try my damnedest to do so. However its not the end of the world if I can't figure it out or if some 3rd party is in the way of my success. Let's see how close I was...
Yeah I'm diagnosed with Psychosis and OCPD. I can feel getting triggered by stupid jokes, and liars/me2's.
He's right tho, I had to get locked up in psych before I was willing to admit anything. And even when I "admit it" I'm not always sure I believe it.
@@kittythekid3931 I can understand how admitting and believing are two different things. It can be tough to differentiate between being correct and being trapped in our own OCPD thoughts.
i didn't even know ocpd existed
yuan sadly I'm aware. That's why I'm starting The OCPD Foundation.
I always considered myself to have "light" ocd. The terminology i use is probably wrong but idk how to explain my situation better: i have intrusive thoughts that make me do stuff, even though i know they are irrational. For example, when i have had a happy day, the next day i will repeat the same things i did the previous day in order to find that happiness again. I decreased that over the years though. When i was 15-16 years old (2 years ago) my intrusive thoughts were enormous and so were my compulsions. Now i still suffer from intrusive thoughts but i fight them and i'm better. But i suspect i might have ocpd as well. I think i'm superior to other people and i also believe that my ways are the right ways. I might sound like a trashy person but i judge people A LOT and i dislike people who don't follow my ways. On the outside i seem like a really nice and kind person but only myself knows how superior i feel. I practice empathy and being accepting to difference though.
Edit: I also tend to be workaholic and i think that any work is enough work.
Do you think i might suffer from ocpd too?
Alice K thanks for the question. There are definite comorbidities with OCD & OCPD, so it is indeed possible to suffer from both. For the compulsions that feel irrational, they likely lean towards OCD. For the intrusive thoughts that feel justified, those could indicate a leaning towards OCPD. A mental health professional will be able to help you get to the bottom of it. But it sounds like you're having quite the internal struggle and you could benefit a lot from some type of treatment plan. Please let me know if you have any follow up questions.
Is it possible to have both?. I was diagnosed with OCPD but when I was a kid I remember having to stay up all night after being tucked in to organize, I can’t write unless it’s perfect exc obviously it’s absolutely horrible now but I try to maintain things.... I won’t go into now but I feel like I must have OCD with how I live my life..
Jessica Rose thanks for your comment. It is absolutely possible to have both. And I'm not in a position to diagnose or guide you. But I will say that the examples you give are both things I did when I was a kid as well, and I absolutely do not have OCD. That doesn't mean that you don't, but what you're describing doesn't necessarily mean OCD.
OCPD: My Life In Debris you’re absolutely right. There much more that I deal with then just those things, but I notice when I’m doing them, I can’t focus on anything unless everything is how it should be. My friend was power washing her truck the other day and I walked back and forth upstairs for an hour driving myself insane wondering if she was ok over and over. I check the windows repeatedly to make sure there’s no one home when clearly there isint this is every few minutes sometimes seconds depending on the situation. Same goes for doors and just generally repeatedly looking to see if anyone’s home when Nobody is! Which I know it a bit strange to people but this has been going on for my whole life. Logically it makes no sense so why does something inside of me need to? Want to? Have to?? I’m not sure and although some things I do make entirely no sense they somehow do to me, other things are entirely different and some people could compare to to some extent.. maybe. I have a lot of compulsions and it’s impossible to control and when I don’t double check I feel like I’m going crazy. I know I may not have OCD but from what I know people with OCPD don’t notice what there doing, it drives me insane and invades my life at home, work, public exc, I’m only giving these examples because this type of thing happens constantly. Yes there’s more to it and I’m not going to write my whole life down or anything but just the way it effects my life is unsettling. I hope more people find helpful ways to overcome certain stuff and live a healthier life with OCD, I live with BPD1 general anxiety and according to my med doctor who dropped me after a month, OCPD. which I don’t believe I have because I’m very mindful when things are normal, even if the things I do might seem insane to others, some things are something else entirely but when I’m good I’m good and I can tell that something isint adding up. I also am very messy! Thing is I don’t like the mess, it’s just when I clean... I clean. It needs to be perfect, or I can’t live with it and I get angrier then when I don’t bother because I know if I start, it’ll get worse and worse and worse and I’ll be doing it everyday till night, yes I clean but I have to keep it at a minimum in a sense and break it up into different parts of the day otherwise it takes over a part of life I feel more in control of now, yea maybe I’m a bit messier then some but that’s only because I trained myself to stop doing what I did sense I was a child. I used to have to rearrange my stuffed animals before I went to bed, straighten things out, my eyes would pop open every second I tried to settle back down in bed cuz I would notice something else. I really appreciate the advice!
@@jessicarose2090 that sounds like so much to be living with. If you were to have OCPD, your mind would be doing everything it could to convince you that you don't have OCPD. So be careful when dismissing the suggestion from a therapist that you might be suffering from that particular personality disorder. Again, I'm not saying that you have it, just that if you do you won't be the one in the best position to identify it. As I experience some of the things you describe, I know that although the things you do can be exhausting both mentally and physically, that doing them can also bring a strange form of comfort. So it's easy to be resistant to therapy or change or recovery because we hold on to those little moments of comfort and find them very difficult to abandon. But if you want to make progress you'll have to step out into the unknown and uncomfortable to bring about real positive change.
I am so perfectionistic with writing I couldn't finish my papers on time and had to quit college. It was horrible.
If you have both, can you come to terms with OCPD more easily? (I was diagnosed with OCD by a psychiatrist years ago. But today my therapist kind of casually brought up OCPD. I've been looking at both online and I can relate to both. I do feel like the OCD started when I was 12. But the OCPD started a little later than that, like towards the end of adolescence, early adulthood.) It *is* hard to come to terms with the OCPD label, because I already have identity issues because of child sexual abuse.
Jennifer Grove in my personal opinion I would say the opposite. An OCD diagnosis usually comes as a relief as the one suffering with OCD recognizes that something is wrong. Many with OCPD don't see themselves as having a problem and therefore tend to not agree with an OCPD diagnosis when it's first presented to them. I'm sorry that you are having to go through all of this.
It is a Personality Disorder, not exactly an illness. An illness is something they can cure. These are what one Develops Into, and have to just learn how to live with it.
Vishva Kumara you are correct in that it can't be cured. But it can be subdued and managed, and if you really put in the hard work, it can be overcome.
@@OCPD_support i want to it be gone thought. it goos has its advantagus but frustrating if it doesnt go my way
@@omarshinwari7823 when I say it can be overcome, I mean it can get to the point where it's no longer a part of your life. I know we all want it to be gone overnight, but it does require work. The good thing is that life is such an amazing gift, that no matter how bad things are, it's always worth the work
the diagnostic manual is careful to specify that something is only a problem if it causes significant distress, so while its true that a pd isnt strictly curable in the cases considered improved the distress diminishing can mean no longer fitting the criteria and thus not classifiable as disordered
3:20 well said
Bambi Blush thank you so much!
12:05 to 12:42 was basically it
^ let it be noted that someone found something useful in one of my videos ;)
It has been very tricky for me to distinguish for myself which one I have, (even though you are quite clear in your explanation) because I seem to have elements of both going on at the same time. I feel as though I have OCPD in terms of it being a fixed way of thinking, however I also recognize it as a major problem and truly wish I didn't think this way. Like OCD, the thoughts are also intrusive, I know it is distorted irrational thinking, but the harder I try to shake it off by rationalizing, the more anxious I get. Any thoughts on this? Thanks a million. Appreciate this page.
John Vella thanks for your question/comment. Obviously I can't diagnose you, but it's important to know that it's possible to have both OCPD and OCD at the same time. I would say that it still sounds to me like you're mostly describing OCPD in your comment. The experience that you're describing illustrates why for some with OCPD, cognitive behavioral therapy can work. It's about sitting down with your thoughts and feelings and seeing them all the way through to their logical conclusions. I experience tremendous anxiety, but I'm able to manage it better not by rationalizing, but by understanding where the thoughts are coming from. These are much more complex issues than I can go deep into in a TH-cam reply. It's also possible that the anxiety is a result of irrational thoughts that are OCD, and in that case you'll need to approach them with a different treatment plan.
@@OCPD_support what treatment do have you the most success with? I have OCPD (and most likely OCD and ADHD as well) and I've tried four different SSRI's and all they do is make me apathetic and sleepy. I'm so desperate. I can barely function normally during my daily routine. I doubt everything I read and hear, I hold impossible high standards for all my coworkers and acquaintances which leads to me quickly pushing them away once they do or say something that displeases me. I have trouble prioritizing tasks, or even starting tasks because I NEED to know I'm doing things the most efficiently possible, which ironically leads to me procrastinating. My psychiatrist has yet to put me on some therapy other than meds, which so far haven't helped anything. I KNOW I most likely could use some CBT, but I don't know how to make him understand that I need it! I'm typing this comment during the night because my brain simply can't stop racing uncontrollably which leads to me not being able to relax and fall asleep. This happens almost every night. Sometimes the anxiety gets so bad I start crying in bed. I have terrible sleeping habits which only worsen my mood and performance during the day even more. I wish I could vanish from this world. I fantasize in my head about instantaneously disappearing into a cloud of dust. Just instant disappearance form this world... Please, respond
And thanks
@@mariocc3472 my heart breaks reading this and I can relate to almost everything you typed up in your comment. Hopefully, I can offer some helpful suggestions.
First off, if the person treating you is prescribing you medication, that makes them a psychiatrist (which I know you mentioned). But the thing about psychiatrists is their primary function is to treat patients with medications and then monitor their progress and any side effects. You are in desperate need of treatment, and for that, you would need to find a therapist. My therapist uses psychotherapy and it has worked excellently for me. For others CBT is great. And for even more there are a variety of methods that people have found success with. There are many paths to a healthy mind. You just need a therapist that is flexible and willing to work different methods until something clicks. I am on medications, but I am not on SSRIs as I had terrible reactions to them. Currently, I take a combination of medications including a wonderful SNRI.
If you are being honest with your psychiatrist about how you're feeling on the medication and he isn't making any adjustments, I would strongly suggesting finding a doctor that listens.
😍 Thanks
Zeza Farooq you're welcome. :)
Hi!
Aurora Dijana would you be comfortable with me answering this question in a video? I'm planning a new series in which I give candid answers to questions from the comments. If so, please email me the same comment (you can just copy and paste) to darryl@ocpd.org
Thanks.
Of course, thank you!
I don't think distinguishing between these two is all that useful. I have spent the last year overcoming compulsions, mostly fueled by "irrational" intrusive thoughts, which is considered OCD... But what I have found is that unless I also let go of my perfectionism, need for certainty, and controlling compulsions (considered ocpd) my suffering continues. It's like a game of whack-a-mole! I've found cutting out ALL compulsions, regardless of how rational or normal seeming they are to be much more useful. Yes, it is terribly uncomfortable to let go of control, to accept my fears of things falling apart, but the benefits to my relationships and happiness have been huge.
Lekadinkadink I would disagree that distinguishing between the two is not useful. There are therapeutic techniques that produce different results depending on which one you're treating. However, I would agree with your reason for thinking it's unimportant when it comes to tackling compulsions. Whatever the reason for the compulsion, as you said, cutting them all out is more useful. And I'm so glad that you're currently reaping the rewards of letting go of control. Thanks for the comment.
i relate. my therapist has told me many times that fixating on diagnostic definitions is me trying to feel in control and avoiding adressing the actual problem xD i'm still working on letting go, your comment gave me hope so thank u for that :3
Where are you getting the 1% statistic from? I've read OCPD is around 8%.
Radek Pilich there are no 'hard, fast' numbers on OCPD at all. The lowest estimates put it at 1% of the population. New data suggests it's between 2 to 8%. What those numbers tell me is that nobody knows for sure and they're all just guessing. A 6 - 7% range is massive. Anecdotally I would have an incredibly difficult time believing the number is at 8%. I'm much more inclined to believe 1 - 2%. However, I'm sure a much larger percentage of the population displays some OCPD traits. Thanks for your question.
misdiagnosis is a big problem trying to get precise numbers, bpd and bipolar also have a gap like that one in precision, given how often ocd gets used interchangeably while being more common than ocpd makes measuring either highly unreliable
How does one come about “inheriting” ocpd? I feel that other toxic personalities definitely made an affect towards OCPD.
Kat Barz if inheriting OCPD is possible, it would be by being exposed to OCPD behaviors from a parent or caretaker during formative years. Essentially imprinting the brain. However, nobody knows for sure if 'inheriting' is definitively a cause. There are many as well that believe a traumatic event in ones youth could lead to OCPD characteristics manifesting during adolescence.
The left drawing is Caterpillar in yellow color and Butterfly in green....You didn't wrote your thoughts, right? you drawing it. I saw it again. It is Dragonfly. :)
sianne ribkah meliawaty Handayani yes it is :)
Like i have this feeling or idk what is . Like i have to touch things or anythins with my left hand then with my both hands then with my right hand . And doing things 3 times . And i can't control it . I can't stop thinking about everything . And Feeling very anxious . Can be this ocd? Is this ocd? ( ps : If there are any mistakes, do not pay attention to them, because I am not an American)
And thank you
Yasushi Sama please never apologize for writing mistakes. Especially to a native English speaker. Being able to speak (or write in) more than one language is very impressive, and very few native English speakers are bilingual. So be proud of your English.
What you describe sounds like OCD. I am not in a position to diagnose. But I would look for some online support. There are many online support groups for OCD. And if you would like to know and be diagnosed and receive help, seeking out a therapist or a mental health professional is the best thing that you can do for yourself. It may seem like your feelings would be impossible to change, but they can be changed. You can be happy and you can calm your brain. You just need to open yourself up to the idea of therapy. Thanks for leaving your comment :)
@@OCPD_support thank you very much
Nobody had ocd before the 90s. Careful with labels. Its not normal getting stuck in a groove.
Henry V I think you're conflating labels with diagnoses.
lmao what do you mean nobody? people were just ''ecCenTriC'' or???
Is there any treatment for ocpd?
Hosoi Archives the short answer is yes. The absolute best treatment for OCPD is therapy combined with a healthy lifestyle that includes the practice of mindfulness. However, there isn't a particular form of therapy that is unanimously viewed as the best treatment for OCPD. Nor are there any particular medications that target OCPD specifically. It is best to find a therapist that is a good match personality-wise and to work towards self improvement from there.
pack it up king of long intros
Suntreatz no problem king of original comments. :)
@@OCPD_support i like long intros lol
@@BOTCHCALISSOLOSYOU well you’re in luck. I have a brand new animated one for my next video ;)
So OCPD seem normal to the person but OCD does not?
Mira Avella absolutely!
@@OCPD_support Then i only have OCD (which i know). Thanks for clarifying anyway, I was scared for a while.
Are people with it more likely to be straightedge?
@sleepnomore6065 that is a very interesting question. I cannot give a definitive answer, but it would be my opinion that people with OCPD could be attracted to that sort of rigid lifestyle.
I have a burning 🔥 question: who suffers more? The individual with ocpd, or the family members of the person with ocpd, I’m related to the individual who has ocpd and I am a tortured soul to this day.
browneyedgirl428 thanks for the question. I am so sorry to hear that you are being tortured by the situation you find yourself in. The question you ask is very subjective, and I'm not sure that an answer to that question would help you in any way. If the person with OCPD is not receiving treatment and is resistant to the idea of treatment, the next best thing would be for you to find a mental health professional to speak with. A professional will help give you clarity and perspective and would hopefully allow you to see what solutions/options lie before you.
@@OCPD_support I have been in therapy for the last few months and my therapist is an expert on personality disorders, but there is not enough data on ocpd because it’s an uncommon personality disorder. Also my loved one with ocpd (we will call her aunt Bonnie) had her 42nd wedding anniversary yesterday and I find it rather pathetic that my uncle Peter did not leave her ass years ago. My aunt & uncle raised me, I just can’t handle the fact that my uncle has enabled my aunt in her ocpd ways all these years.
@@browneyedgirl4285 if you're willing to share, I would be interested in knowing if the therapy has helped you to make any decisions regarding how you should handle the relationship with "aunt Bonnie" moving forward?
Also, think about how much judgment you feel from the person with OCPD and how that makes you feel. This might help you to reduce the judgments you are making against your uncle.
@@OCPD_support I’m in therapy primarily for the purpose of handling my pending divorce and that’s helpful, as far as dealing with aunt Bonnie, I am not remotely over it, my aunt and uncle raised me and I see them as mom and dad. After I left my husband, my kids and I lived with my aunt and uncle for 14 months, it was an absolute nightmare. I have a background in mental health coding and I paged through the dsm 5 one day, only to find that my aunt has textbook ocpd. While my kids and I moved out 2 months ago, I’m still traumatized over the dynamic between my aunt and uncle. My uncle has always loved me like his own and I’m fed up over the fact that he treated my kids and I poorly to appease his wife and her ocpd ways. I would want to divorce that person if they treat me bad, and I think my uncle is complacent for not leaving her years ago.
@@browneyedgirl4285 I'm sure your therapist has already told you that your feelings are completely understandable given the situation. I don't want to overstep and give you my thoughts when you are already talking to a therapist. But I think privately confronting your uncle with your feelings is probably the only way you are going to start to heal from this traumatic experience.
The thoughts are not the compulsions. The actions to reduce the anxiety is the compulsions. Why do you say the unwanted thoughts are compulsions?
The Sarge thanks for your question. Here is one of the ways in which the word compulsion is defined - 'an irresistible urge to behave in a certain way'. So the urge or 'thought' is part of the compulsion itself.
@@OCPD_support thats, wrong
@@amoradioheadd what do you mean? Nothing in my statement is factually untrue.
depends on the disorder, classic ocd its the actions but in ocpd reinforcing beliefs that one knows are dysfunctional is a choice (action) that is technically optional but giving in to the temptation of following through with it for emotional reasons (fear of what doing otherwise may bring) is compulsive. should i give u an example? lets say i believe all men are bad ut i also know there are too many men out there for one of them to perhaps be not bad, but if i know that and decide to never interact with a man because hoping the exception to my belief will manifest is not as tolerable as simply not taking the risk and continuing to behave as one would were that belief true despite being aware that it isnt? actions as unjustifiable as any cleaning compulsions.
i’ve been planning out how to completely “restart” my life because how i’ve lived it in the past hasn’t been perfect. i’ve planned out what time i’ll make my social media accounts and have even constructed how i’ll respond to certain things. it’s super hard :(
Matty H I'm sure it's exhausting as well. I can truly empathize.
same. u ever feel like u wanna move out. new name. new life. new personality. new country new language
just cos ur old life was not good enough.
even with tasks, like cleaning or making something esoecially if its not exactley how i want it, il give up with it; before i give up iwth it i speand a longgg time with it however
@@omarshinwari7823 yes! so glad i found someone who could relate because it’s honestly the most tiring thing i’ve ever dealt wirh
big relate. the temptation to just move and never have to worry or adress every single thing in my past that wasn't a carefully calculated decision 😓
Can ocpd alone produce intrusive images?
Flavio Menezes thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if I understand the question. Could you give me an example so that I can try to answer your question the best that I can?
Thank you for your attention. Some people report having intrusive visual thoughts like mentally seeing a picture of themselves harming a loved one. Sometimes when I mentally visualize the face of someone I like, the face of the person is added with wounds and disgusting things and this gives me a lot of anxiety. I'm not hallucianting though, it is all just thoughts. My psychiatrist told me that intrusive images can be caused by ocpd but I don't think he's right; I have the feeling that this must be caused by an anxiety disorder such as ocd. I'm going through a very difficult moment in my life right now; my psychiatrist was very close to sending me to a cingulotomy surgery for ocd but he suddenly changed his mind and now thinks I have ocpd and not ocd thus making the surgery pointless for my case. I think I have both disorders and ocd is responsible for the greater part of my suffering. What are your thoughts on all of this?
Flavio Menezes thank you for clarifying. I believe that you are correct. Obviously I'm not a professional, so I don't want to advise you to go against the person treating you. However, the intrusive thoughts you experience seem like the sort of obsessive compulsive thoughts that traditionally go along with OCD. I do visualize/dream of bad things happening to loved ones, but I have obsessive thoughts about death in general. In those thoughts I'm never the cause of the harm or death. It's more of a panic/worry state. OCD and OCPD can have comorbidity, so it's possible that you have both as well.
@@plebiu i personally do get instantaneous uncontrollable images because of my ocpd but they're usually triggered by context, as in while trying to make a decision the way it could go wrong pops up in all its variations, but its my imagination overeacting to posibilities, if the images you get are random and disconnected, or blatantly irrational thats ocd probs. ocpd fears feel rational, like fears everyone should have, ocd doesnt.
Can you interview a professional on a vid in future? About OCPD?
The Sarge I've been wanting to do this for a while. I have someone in particular in mind and I just need to find a way to schedule it. So hopefully someday soon you'll get your wish.
Because this guy s just reading an auto que, his head is wobbling round so annoyingly and he doesn’t blink
Clayton Goodman what a kind and uplifting compliment. Thank you for taking the time to express yourself.
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Why not Religious thoughts?
Cool Beans religious thoughts in general are of course fine. But it's possible that your belief in religion is tied directly to a person's OCPD. Or if the person is no longer religious, they may have compulsive guilty thoughts or feel shame over things that they were taught through their faith that they no longer believe. So having those types of thoughts would be having unwanted religious thoughts.
@@OCPD_support think you
I m suffering from.ocd
Adrishadeep Choudhory I'm really sorry to hear that. What are you currently doing to treat yourself better and to make positive moves forward?
I thought that's Asperger's syndrome ocpd sounds like what I have but they say Asperger's syndrome.
Roots of Truth. thanks for your comment. It's a difficult one to answer as mental health professionals keep changing definitions year after year. I would say that one difference that seems applicable to most is that those with OCPD both have the ability to recognize behaviors that would seem outside of the social norms and the ability to control them. I have known many people with OCPD and with Asperger's and in practical and outward terms, they are generally easy to identify. However, there are those that believe there is a connection between the two. I am not one of those people, but you are not alone in seeing similarities.
@@OCPD_support I'm diagnosed with Asperger's and OCD . I never heard of ocpd until now. I have bad socail skills and sensory overload alot and extream one track focus weather it be a hobby or a fear.
@@MRSludgedude I'm sorry that you are going through all of that. It sounds like a lot. I would say that your diagnosis sounds accurate based on your comment.
I have aspergers too, and from what I understand rumination is very common for us. Usually around social blunders, like scripting ahead of times or replaying scenarios to try to find out why our conversation partner seemed to reject us. But- OCD is commonly comorbid with asd.
@@kr3642 yea mine is a bit of both. But I have learned to mimic behaviour basically as a big phycological test lol. Amazing what telling people what they want to hear can do.
I have OCD 😔
R Joze I'm very sorry to hear that. Are you in any support groups or do you have a therapist? There is a lot of help available to make sure that the OCD doesn't negatively impact the quality of your life.
@@OCPD_support tanx bro.I have had this severe disease since I was a teenager, and no treatment has worked. I have lost almost everything.
@@Rj-nb1gn I hate to hear that. What treatments have you tried? What do you have access to, or what is available to you where you live?
Im getting rage waiting for you to get on with it ffs 🙄😓 long winded larry. But i apologize for sharing that
D Hawks it's not like I knew what I was doing when I got into this. My videos are becoming shorter and more succinct with time. I'm learning. But thanks for the new nickname 🤣
@@OCPD_support sorry bro good video thanks for the information keep up the good work
@@dhawks4056 no worries. I can't even go back and watch my old videos. I promise they're getting better. The one I recorded yesterday is like 6 minutes long or so.
He kept on ranting and I fell like he would never start and get to the point. Will exit now. There is nothing in this video.
Tim Cook sometimes you just have things you want to get off of your mind. When you upload your OCPD video I'd be happy to stop by and critique it as well.
Plise subtitel indonesian.. Plizz🙏🙏🙏😭😭
izza rosydiana thank you for watching. All of my episodes are auto-translated. If you go to the setting in the bottom right of the video, go to subtitles and click on 'auto translate' it will let you pick Indonesian as a language. I just tested it and it works.
Could you refrain from summarizing the past few months and why you didn't post as frequently as you expected to? It's a turn-off and it's repetitive.
Vpprofフプロフ I'm not going to say that you're wrong, because you're not. And I'm not going to say that I'm not going to do that, as it's something I was already planning on not doing anymore. But what I will say is that this is my content and this is my channel and if you're unhappy with the way I present the material, you're welcome to find someone else that discusses OCPD in depth elsewhere.
You must be young? Life is unpredictable - always has been, always will be... live with it. Complaining accomplishes nothing. You are getting what information you get here for free!. Offer up say $200 an hour - and he might consider a regular schedule seriously?
@@brianmarshall3931 I think you're responding to somebody else
OCPD: My Life In Debris i thought it was fine there are some real rigid people in these comments
@@vivvpprof Not if you wrote that comment 9 months ago. Cough up some cash and I'm sure you'll get get what you think you are due...