I absolutely love 'last stand' mode in this. i like how for example American AI can rarely throw a pershing/super pershing at you forcing u to concentrate fully on it ;D
It's good that you tried this map for Last stand. There seems to be two "type" of last stand maps. One's where you spawn directly on the point and have to defend in a full 360 (like in your last video) and ones where you spawn slighty back from the point and need to run to it and defend mostly from 3 sides instead (depending on the map of course) like in this video. I think it's the latter of these maps that show this mode the best. The maps where you spawn directly on the point can be quite frustrating especially as the waves go on and it becomes a bit of a clusterfck as you spawn units for them just to die. Though nextime I think you should up the AI to atleast match the player count and maybe up the difficulty :)
7:30 Officers have negative CP, it's 25 per officer. It stacks with multiple officers, but you can only ever buy 2 officers per match. Officers have a very heavy capture weight, meaning that when on a point, it makes capping the point or holding it basically guaranteed. (Funny thing about capture weight, better units have more capture weight, and finnish infantry has better capture weight than their German and Soviet counter parts) Losing an officer is a heavy blow, but they are very good units which can really help out your units in spotting and destroying targets (although snipers are also good at that) There are also negative CP units in all countries offensive doctrines, in the form of observation vehicles, they can be bought like 5 times. The german observation halftrack has for example has -6CP This way, if you keep the officers and observation vehicles save, you can get up to 80 free CP. other doctrines, such as the defensive doctrine you where playing, only has the officers, meaning 50 free CP is the max for you. Do note that special point officers from the support doctrine from the scorched earth DLC, DO count towards the officer cap, meaning you still cannot have more than 2 officers. But these come with supply drop grenades which can be really usefull.
Ok so here's my idea. How about they make it as such that the PVE defense have some "historical mode" that will feature historical defenses such as that of Bastogne for the Americans, Kursk for the Soviets, D-Day for the Germans, and the Mannerheim line for the Finns. Very big disclaimer here, as it will be more of a game mode, of course it will allow an endless mode and will feature a lot more tanks and infantry for the attacker contrary to what actually happen but hey, it's a neat idea.
I like playing this mode with either Finland or Germany against USSR. I tried playing US vs Germans but they don't have any TDs that can take a hit and it's hard to cover them when the enemy is incoming from all sides.
Sherm & company really made the Finn's fun here! Barry & Davidson both add their own unique talents 😉! Well played and do look forward to seeing some late war 'Last Stands' 😚. Would be interesting if you could play USA & Germany vs. Russia 😏? Really curious to see if the # of units (explosions, etc.) played on the Heroic level, in co-op creates any latency issues 🤔. Best wishes regardless!!
For the longest time I always said fins were my fav faction b/c of the emplacements lol its all fun and games till someone is smart in pvp and decides to call in the ultimate counter to any emplacement or fortified position.... Artillery...
@@theShermanator Yah I have played maybe 80% of the games I played with finland always doing defense rushs to mid point of the map and like 70% of the time someone just bring rocket arty or just howitzers and just wipes me lol. The concrete bunker does a good job of survival tho.
Smth along ur joyfull gameplay made me curious. Is it better to keep the soliders separated - each as a single 'unit', or it it better to keep them as squad? As ur friend does. Cheers
So I PERSONALLY like spreading my guys out, takes a few seconds, or even with the rmb click-hold-drag and separate them, that way one shell/explosions doesnt knock most of em out
Are the bunkers from Valour or am I blind and missed them? (I checked for myself in game, it's vanilla) Also, I look forward to the hard match, it sounds like it will be a fun watch!
Only the Finnish heavy engineers can do it to give them more punch compared to other factions Edit: the coastal gun ones are buildable by heavy engineers in vanilla, the rest probably mods cause ive seen mods brought in "base building" such as fortified artillery guns and mg nest
Dont get me wrong i love the GOH videos but i think it would be cool to see you do some old school AS2 videos like you use to do so much. Hell im all the time scrolling thru your videos so i can watch AS2 ones from 7-8 years ago
I absolutely love defense in anything, just I wish there was a way where you could select what ways the enemys came from, I enjoy defending against at most 3 axis, anymore is a bitch
what's up with it, I have a 1440p but my friend has a 4k and never said anything negative, maybe its with the UI? I guess you could look on their Discord for a fix
exactly, the UI, i looked everywhere for a fix, but the game doesnt have 4k support, there are some workarounds, but you lose the details of 4k resolution . anyway, i had fun not gonna lie in 150 hours
lame mode i was hoping for a more unique gameplay since its singleplayer... its just conquest defense LoL... i wish they would add more multiplayer game modes already
The sound in this game is so good wow
WE LOVE SOUND UPDATEEEEE
Cant wait till you try out the challenge of 4 heroic ai on Late war. You will feel like you are holding berlin by yourself.
I should try that, probably with Finland so I can "Base build" lmao
are you implying the ai is good or bad?
@@Willing_Herolddid berlin hold?
@@lebenlarge5282 were there 700 thousand Ai Soldiers, civilians and desperados who look exactly like humans defending Berlin?
@@Willing_Herold Bro is strawmanning in an active effot too complain.
I absolutely love 'last stand' mode in this. i like how for example American AI can rarely throw a pershing/super pershing at you forcing u to concentrate fully on it ;D
Its so much fun, love this mode
It's good that you tried this map for Last stand. There seems to be two "type" of last stand maps. One's where you spawn directly on the point and have to defend in a full 360 (like in your last video) and ones where you spawn slighty back from the point and need to run to it and defend mostly from 3 sides instead (depending on the map of course) like in this video.
I think it's the latter of these maps that show this mode the best. The maps where you spawn directly on the point can be quite frustrating especially as the waves go on and it becomes a bit of a clusterfck as you spawn units for them just to die.
Though nextime I think you should up the AI to atleast match the player count and maybe up the difficulty :)
Yeah the 360 vs this "180" version is night and day, 360 is rough, these 180s are rough too but a bit more fun, can even use artillery a bit more haha
7:30
Officers have negative CP, it's 25 per officer.
It stacks with multiple officers, but you can only ever buy 2 officers per match.
Officers have a very heavy capture weight, meaning that when on a point, it makes capping the point or holding it basically guaranteed. (Funny thing about capture weight, better units have more capture weight, and finnish infantry has better capture weight than their German and Soviet counter parts)
Losing an officer is a heavy blow, but they are very good units which can really help out your units in spotting and destroying targets (although snipers are also good at that)
There are also negative CP units in all countries offensive doctrines, in the form of observation vehicles, they can be bought like 5 times.
The german observation halftrack has for example has -6CP
This way, if you keep the officers and observation vehicles save, you can get up to 80 free CP.
other doctrines, such as the defensive doctrine you where playing, only has the officers, meaning 50 free CP is the max for you.
Do note that special point officers from the support doctrine from the scorched earth DLC, DO count towards the officer cap, meaning you still cannot have more than 2 officers. But these come with supply drop grenades which can be really usefull.
Ok so here's my idea. How about they make it as such that the PVE defense have some "historical mode" that will feature historical defenses such as that of Bastogne for the Americans, Kursk for the Soviets, D-Day for the Germans, and the Mannerheim line for the Finns. Very big disclaimer here, as it will be more of a game mode, of course it will allow an endless mode and will feature a lot more tanks and infantry for the attacker contrary to what actually happen but hey, it's a neat idea.
Right on thanks for the great content saw posted 1 min ago
Thanks for watching!
Damn I didn't even know how much I missed these.
oh they are good huh
I like playing this mode with either Finland or Germany against USSR. I tried playing US vs Germans but they don't have any TDs that can take a hit and it's hard to cover them when the enemy is incoming from all sides.
Sherm & company really made the Finn's fun here! Barry & Davidson both add their own unique talents 😉! Well played and do look forward to seeing some late war 'Last Stands' 😚. Would be interesting if you could play USA & Germany vs. Russia 😏? Really curious to see if the # of units (explosions, etc.) played on the Heroic level, in co-op creates any latency issues 🤔. Best wishes regardless!!
Cheers as always mate - got some more Last Stand coming soon!!
What difficulty was this? I know it’s three of yall but yall just make it look easy compared to one player vs Ai.
So glad they added this last stand mode was always needed with waves unlimited
I love it!
Another awesome vid Sherm!
Thanks again!
This makes me think of a Company of Heroes game but with FPS mode and such.
CoH sucks
It's a CoH for big boys and girls
@@JannyBesmircher literally just WW2 themed Command and Conquer
@@JannyBesmircher coh is awesome
@@JannyBesmircher Nah it’s a great game
Finnish heavy engineers really are goated. I like to put an ammo crate directly next to it and use the two riflemen as crew for the gun.
Yeah this is a great idea, its really fun too lmao
For the longest time I always said fins were my fav faction b/c of the emplacements lol its all fun and games till someone is smart in pvp and decides to call in the ultimate counter to any emplacement or fortified position.... Artillery...
Lmao yeah thats fair, a good rocket strike would mess this up
@@theShermanator Yah I have played maybe 80% of the games I played with finland always doing defense rushs to mid point of the map and like 70% of the time someone just bring rocket arty or just howitzers and just wipes me lol. The concrete bunker does a good job of survival tho.
wow this company of heroes mod looks amazing!
lmao
Great addition to the game! would be cool to see a last stand Germans in falaise against a ton of different allied units 😎
ooh I like that idea
Battle of the bulge style American defense next.
Oh if there is a Winter Map like that Imma have to try it out
I love this game. My brother & love this mode as well!
i love this game.... the only RTS game thats good right now
100%
So are these bunkers limited to the finish heavy engineers?
Yeah for now - under defense doctrine
Smth along ur joyfull gameplay made me curious. Is it better to keep the soliders separated - each as a single 'unit', or it it better to keep them as squad? As ur friend does. Cheers
So I PERSONALLY like spreading my guys out, takes a few seconds, or even with the rmb click-hold-drag and separate them, that way one shell/explosions doesnt knock most of em out
@@theShermanator But the upside of keeping them in a ssquad is they automatically share ammo and ease of orders if its the same as Assault squad 2.
@@Yt-gd8ps You can spread them out then drag select them again and they'll be grouped and share ammo while in the spread out positions
Mid war germany vs soviets might be interesting
Hello a newbie question, what mods or if DLC's needed to play this PVE Last Stand Co-Op mode?
you dont need any DLCs or mods I believe, Last Stand is part of the game - Finland as you see here is however a DLC but not required
@@theShermanator I always whought the thing 'community update' is something like a workshop mod.
How can I play the last stand mode, I need the Dlc airborne? Thanks
No; you can play it without DLC or mods I believe, just host a game in LAN and you'll see the option
Great Defence and Vid cheers !
Cheers mate!!
I need this game nowwwwwww!!!
get it, its good!
Also 1:20 wtf I had no idea Fin engineers could do this! :D
Crazy OP lmao
It has to be specifically the heavy engineers. I’m so glad I was just testing all the things on the bottom when I first got the game.
Are the bunkers from Valour or am I blind and missed them? (I checked for myself in game, it's vanilla)
Also, I look forward to the hard match, it sounds like it will be a fun watch!
Only the Finnish heavy engineers can do it to give them more punch compared to other factions
Edit: the coastal gun ones are buildable by heavy engineers in vanilla, the rest probably mods cause ive seen mods brought in "base building" such as fortified artillery guns and mg nest
@@AHappyCub Yeah, I noticed that when I checked, and it makes sense.
wheres the base building at?
Its the building of the bunkers and fortifications
i dont understand when they praise MOW2 more than this
who does this?
@@reinach77 try giving critics on some praised mow2 videos. you'll see
@@dimasrahadian all I see is people bashing mow2 on videos that have nohting to do with it
Nostalgia
the last stand mode is not showing up on my game, do i need to download something?
it should be on multiplayer/skirmish and then you setup your own game, its its own mode, should not need any mods or dlcs etc
@@theShermanator thank you so much! you're the best! love your videos!
What mods are you running???
none, this is vanilla lol
what resolution do you run goh at?
2560x1440
@@theShermanator damn how in the world is ur ui that big lol incant get my 4k monitor to agree with this game at all
Child memory unlocked
lmao
I wanna see you guys do like an hour long vid of holding you know so you can see everything and almost full out the map with defenses 😂😂😂
Men of War 2 is not even close to this? This is how to do this game
This game costs 3 times as much, cause of all the DLC.
@@williampaabreeves I bought the complete bundle at 48 bucks, not even in a sale. That's 4 factions and way more content than MoW2.
It's a different game. Do you want them to make the same game?
@@williampaabreevesor you can just get mods and get the dlc if you want to play the story missions.
I think on sale its very close in price if not equal?
"im out of cp, im out of cp"
@@mufflezork lmao oops
@@theShermanator responded so fast im still watching the video
Dont get me wrong i love the GOH videos but i think it would be cool to see you do some old school AS2 videos like you use to do so much. Hell im all the time scrolling thru your videos so i can watch AS2 ones from 7-8 years ago
please do germany scorched earth and spamm the Karlgerät
I absolutely love defense in anything, just I wish there was a way where you could select what ways the enemys came from, I enjoy defending against at most 3 axis, anymore is a bitch
Which map is this?
Olkhotkavka or something similar, its just one of the last stand maps
Honestly need to give the player more resources or increase the gap between AI waves and itll be perfect
Well you can change that now - change the time till first wave, timer between waves, how many resources you have etc
which map is this?
Update: I found it
Which one is it?
Olkhatvka or something along those lines, haha
@@theShermanator thanks
Now if only there was an option to turn off the timer!
you can set the timer for both initial starting timer and the timer inbetween each wave
True, I ment the timer for the whole match, the maximum being 120 minutes if I recall correctly.
Damn 2 hours isnt enough, maybe a cool thing to have an indefinite one too I guesshaha
I really wana buy this game but i dont think my specs are good
They should have specs on their store page at the bottom iirc, maybe its not too bad?
@@theShermanator I mean I supose i can buy it. It dosen't look THAT bad for my specs since i use a laptop not a pc but. I don't know
I am only a minute in, but great vid
Cheers boss
Play as usa agains germans 😊
There are mods way better then and way older...
swear down that raptor guy just copied this video, same thumbnail and caption lol
@@BlizzardExtreme oh I know lmao
@@theShermanator well i think i'll be un subbing from him then and giving you my sub.
o7
Clearly not enough defensive positions and defensive bunkers!!!!!.
Haha ill try to do a crazy one I guess soon
@@theShermanator Germany would approve 👌 xD
did these guys never played men of war??😂 such noobs
@@BrumEldar what, who?
@@theShermanator your friends playing
Oh, They dont play it half as often as I do I guess
i wish i never bought this game, for the people with 4k monitors, stay away from it
what's up with it, I have a 1440p but my friend has a 4k and never said anything negative, maybe its with the UI? I guess you could look on their Discord for a fix
exactly, the UI, i looked everywhere for a fix, but the game doesnt have 4k support, there are some workarounds, but you lose the details of 4k resolution . anyway, i had fun not gonna lie in 150 hours
lame mode i was hoping for a more unique gameplay since its singleplayer... its just conquest defense LoL...
i wish they would add more multiplayer game modes already
It's conquest defense without having to invest in a full conquest campaign. It's also more fun
Better than MoW2