The new Supra is a sick Joke of the Century. The real production Supra should have full body lines and aesthetically pleasing like the FT-1 prototype, instead of the Horror Show that we are having now. Why are they using cheap front vents that are worse than a KIA? Why are they messing with BMW engine/parts which are known for their unreliability like a money pit?
Enthusiasts are looking for a MK4 2.0, whether its V6 or whatever doesn't matter, not a Z4/Miata/86 rolled into one. Not only does the final Supra look achingly awful, its like Kevin Levrone's failed 2017 Mr. Olympia comeback, all HYPE. The GTR evolved gradually til the R34 275/330hp and finally into a monster to exactly what fellow enthusiasts want with their earlier mods. The same with Ducati sportsbike as well as Harleys, which all evolved into the ideal image, technical specs, branding and power that enthusiasts are looking for. Yes, perception matters, name matters. Those who argue and keep harping about its original 'stock' intent being a family coupe, mid-price range, collaboration and all that BS is missing the point, Toyota should do likewise and not going backwards, like South Africa. Talking about its positive aspects is completely meaningless in this regard. When R35 was finally revealed, its God-send. Now this is straight from Hell. When there are overwhelming criticisms, the manufacturers should better take heed. This is what Microsoft thought too when they released the Windows 8 with feverish justifications which turned out to be pure nonsense to force-feed their own agenda into consumers to sell the Windows Phone, look what happened. Business is about listening to customer's voice and feedback, nothing to do with who builds what. No matter how the marketeers try to justify it, consumers can smell something awry straight away. If Toyota continues to ignore that, Supra will be another one that bites the dust.
Toyota ruined it. To expensive plus is a BMW...smh....meanwhile the the GTR, M3 gets better and better. I rather invest on the new mid-engine Corvette... a Super car killer worth it.
Z4 Chassis with a body kit. FML
The new Supra is a sick Joke of the Century. The real production Supra should have full body lines and aesthetically pleasing like the FT-1 prototype, instead of the Horror Show that we are having now.
Why are they using cheap front vents that are worse than a KIA?
Why are they messing with BMW engine/parts which are known for their unreliability like a money pit?
Enthusiasts are looking for a MK4 2.0, whether its V6 or whatever doesn't matter, not a Z4/Miata/86 rolled into one. Not only does the final Supra look achingly awful, its like Kevin Levrone's failed 2017 Mr. Olympia comeback, all HYPE.
The GTR evolved gradually til the R34 275/330hp and finally into a monster to exactly what fellow enthusiasts want with their earlier mods. The same with Ducati sportsbike as well as Harleys, which all evolved into the ideal image, technical specs, branding and power that enthusiasts are looking for.
Yes, perception matters, name matters. Those who argue and keep harping about its original 'stock' intent being a family coupe, mid-price range, collaboration and all that BS is missing the point, Toyota should do likewise and not going backwards, like South Africa.
Talking about its positive aspects is completely meaningless in this regard.
When R35 was finally revealed, its God-send. Now this is straight from Hell.
When there are overwhelming criticisms, the manufacturers should better take heed.
This is what Microsoft thought too when they released the Windows 8 with feverish justifications which turned out to be pure nonsense to force-feed their own agenda into consumers to sell the Windows Phone, look what happened.
Business is about listening to customer's voice and feedback, nothing to do with who builds what. No matter how the marketeers try to justify it, consumers can smell something awry straight away. If Toyota continues to ignore that, Supra will be another one that bites the dust.
Mikey you nailed it on the head! I'm with you on that. And for the front vents, well LOL!
BMW R known for failure after the first 4 to 5 years. Better buy a extended warranty, and get ready to pay BMW service fee for a Toyota.
Fair point, I do wonder what the warranty of those looks like - probably just a basic 60 000km / 3 years.
@@canuckautoworks2809 That's a good point. I wonder if you need to go to a Toyota service dealer or a BMW service dealer.
To small, not powerful enough, too BMW and just not special enough to be a supra
I truly didn't think of that but you are so right about the size!
Toyota ruined it. To expensive plus is a BMW...smh....meanwhile the the GTR, M3 gets better and better. I rather invest on the new mid-engine Corvette... a Super car killer worth it.