The SERIES Finale of Buffy? | Buffy the Vampire Slayer 5x22 | The Normies Group Reaction!
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- There is supposed to be 2 more seasons after this right?
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Faith at the end of Season 3: "Little Miss Muffet, counting down from 7-3-0."
730 days. Two years. Time's up.
The Gift is also the 100th episode of Buffy, which is probably why they had the montage of every episode up to now
Could official get that syndication big bucks.
It was because the show was leaving its current network it was on but also like probably that too
no they had it because it was supposed to be the last episode of the show.
The montage is actually written in the original script for the episode. At the time of writing they didn't know what the future held so it was written as a series finale and since they were too far into production to change the story once they found out, just ran with it as the 100th episode.
The Gift was the series finale of the show on the WB, but S5 was such a banger season & so well received, Buffy was brought back for two more seasons on UPN. Then the two networks were merged to form the CW, certain shows were canceled, & the golden era on teen content was over. The move to UPN is also why there were more black characters and people of color cast in episodes. Lots of hit black tv shows were on UPN: Moesha, The Parkers, Jamie Foxx Show, Steve Harvey Show, etc.
"She's not like us" is still one of the coldest lines in tv history!
Sure he’s innocent, but not like… Dawn innocent.
@@Henipah But at this point, he wasn't innocent at all.
@@MsAliciaRL yeah, it’s a quote from Xander when they were discussing killing Ben.
Giles killing Ben is especially cold since Ben saved his life a few episodes ago. Not saying he didn’t do the right thing, but dang that was cold as ice.
He’s the only one of the gang who would or could, and he knows it. He can carry that emotional burden, he’s already learned how to compartmentalize.
Rana, those tears at the end... we love you girl ❤
Absolutely
Rana is great. It's kind of hilarious that the thumbnail for this video is Rana super happy and excited and then the reaction just emotionally rips her apart.
This show is still brutally powerful decades later!
Rana's reaction to Lost was great too. Rana brings the emotions epicly.
@@jordanparker5949 Rana's face in a Lost reaction thumbnail is what brought me to The Normies in the first place.
Watched it a million times and it gets me every time. I love watching different reactors when the penny drops and they realise 😧
The Slayer line doesn't follow Buffy, it follows Faith.
Yes I don’t know why people don’t get that buffy is the loophole slayer she technically meant to be dead 5 years already just xander revived her🙈
I am Rana every time I watch this episode. It's one of the best.
Sooo excited for you guys to get into the last two seasons... it's about to get so much darker. I feel like they're divisive amongst the fandom, but I personally love them.
Agreed! s5 is my favorite season and imo it would not be as good without the events that follow in s6. Both seasons are art.
Agee I like season 6 and 7 season 5 is my favourite followed by 6.
Same! @@caseyv2752
Same. Seen this show about 30 times and I bawl at this episode every. Single. Time.
Season 6 is my favorite so I'm really excited at what comes next
“ She saved the world
A lot “
Old guy, super respected actor Joel Grey. Oscar win, bunch of award nominations
marketta saying "I don't remember this" on the demon she couldn't look at without covering her eyes
“What is Saint Crispin’s?” Fuck me. William Shakespeare, Henry V. The single best pre-battle speech ever.
Oh yeah i always cry at the end and that guy saying "You're just a girl." And the "Thats what ive been saying". I think she's been doing this since she was like 15/16 so she must've been so tired. One of mt favorite protagonists in tv
Tired is the best and saddest way to describe it. Being the slayer is so fucking exhausting, and even if you win the day, beat the bad guy, and save the world? Your prize is more of the same... more suffering... and that's ALWAYS the prize. Until you can't win anymore. Can't think of a more thankless existance. This is why in Once More with Feeling, Giles' song is always the one that crushes me... "I wish I could lay your arms down, and let you rest at last."
When this aired it was already announced that Buffy had been picked up by UPN. But The WB ran ads calling it the SERIES finale of Buffy. I’ve seen some people comment over the years that they didn’t find out it continued until awhile later. I wonder if there are people out there that never figured out there were 2 more seasons.
Well it was the series finale wasn't it? As an property the 5 seasons was the entirety of the show. The 2 seasons after were "technically" a different property. Even though the were eventually both owned by the same company.
Yeah I totally remember reading in an article somewhere that the show was moving networks prior to this episode airing when they announced in the promo that it was the Series Finale.
The show was owned by 20th century Fox during its entire run. WB and UPN only owned the broadcast rights in the US.
It was promoted as "The WB series finale", which was technically correct. Even though we all knew it was transitioning over to UPN next season, it was still considered a big deal, and the end of an era.
@@coreywolf49It was the same show. Come on now. Its a direct continuation. It was just the end of it the WB.
The old guy (Doc) was a worshipper of Glory. She was his god. That was stated in the episode where he got stabbed with a sword. That's why he wanted to see the ritual completed.
These guys don't really pay attention they still think of Buffy the TV show as a joke in some ways because of the name Buffy you can tell by the way they make joke sometimes they may enjoy the show but they don't respect the name behind it I'm just being real
Not going to lie, I was frustrated by them already forgetting this. It was in the previous episode!
S6 is controversial among fans, but honestly I love it so much and I hope you guys will too!
Seems there's not much middle ground about it. Those who don't like it can't understand why those who do like it, like it. And vice versa.
I ❤️ season 6. I'm really looking forward to some reactions!
I really like season 6 and the big bad is probably thematically my favorite big bad of the show.
Never heard of any conflict over season 6. At least not since 2001, when it first happened. Seem to recall it being a favorite of many. 🤷🏼♂️
Yeah, it ranks as one of the lowest for me but has some of the best episodes.
Season six is absolutely my favourite - despite its controversial nature. It’s about to get dark and introspective. It’s one of the best depictions of how depression can feel to those who struggle with it and how trauma changes us - for better and for worse. It’s so well written and beautifully done. Hope you guys enjoy!
100%
It also contains hands-down the best episode of the series. You know the one, and you know I'm right.
Then let them enjoy the discovery of the last two seasons rather than influencing their expectations.
RIP Buffy, the greatest slayer who ever lived.
Want...beer😊
This is hands down my favorite finale of this show
Mine too, but it's not hands down.
@@visarr The series finale is a close second if not equal
Rana is too precious, she must be protected.
So is Marketa.
Spike was destroyed i felt so bad for him. I loved Giles putting his glasses back on to kill Ben so it was full Giles killing him not the Ripper
I don’t know why it makes me think of helpless and when he didn’t act fast enough to get her away from the danger he knew was coming. He’s like not this time.
The Ripper is too much of an arrogant self-involved child to even show up to that fight. If he knew about it, he'd be at a bar, partying it up before the world's doom. Selfish gluttony till the end.
Snake tongue guy was played by Joel Grey, a bit of a legendary singer and actor. He starred in the 1972 multi-Oscar winning musical "Cabaret" with Liza Minnelli. (Grey won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor). And his daughter is Jennifer Grey (Dirty Dancing)(...who was married to Clark Gregg who played Agent Coulson in the MCU and the Agents of SHIELD TV show co-created by Joss Whedon.)
Giles killing Ben was cold asf!
It's not the series finale, but it was kinda written as a potential finale because they didn't knew if they were gonna get season 6 and 7 after. So it works both ways.
The Ripper makes a rare appearance
Chills my spine every time when he says, “She’s not like us”
Giles made a point of putting *on* his glasses. Remember in Season 2 with Ethan? He removed his glasses before punching/kicking him.
Not this time. He put his glasses on. Giles did what was necessary. It needed doing, so he.. did it.
@@Garagantua absolutely. This wasn't Ripper. it was 100% giles - making and doing what others cant and shouldnt have to do.
@@Garagantua Thank you, it annoys me when people say that's the Ripper. Joss even had him specifically put his glasses on, to make it ENTIRELY clear, that's 100% Rupert Giles. Doing what must be done.
I remember when I first saw this and the moment “death is your gift” finally made sense to me. I was just as amazed and surprised as Buffy!
RENA WAS GOING THROUGH IT THIS EPISODE!! ❤
Ah when you realise this episode has been built up since the season 3 finale…this for me is the high point of the series, remember in season 3 during Buffy and Faiths shared dream sequence Faith talks about “Little Miss Muffet counting down from 730” this was a direct reference to this. Little Miss Muffet as you saw was a reference to Dawn and 730 was the fact that from the season 3 finale there were 730 days until Buffy died which was this episode. For me the next 2 seasons do not have the same level of build up.
Also no Buffy’s death does not produce a new Slayer, only if Faith dies does a new Slayer come about. See when Buffy technically died in season 1 that meant the Slayer line went on to the next candidate and that was Kendra who we meet in season 2. As Buffy was resuscitated she was technically returned to life and kept all her Slayer powers but not the part that triggers the next Slayer upon death as that had now been passed on to Kendra. Then Kendra was killed by Drusilla in the penultimate episode of season 2 which triggered Faith. So as far as Slayers go Buffy is an anomaly as she is a Slayer but no longer the “bearer” of the Slayer line (think All Might giving Deku One for All but still having access to its powers without the inevitable lose of said powers)
100% the high point of the series, and in some ways, the high point of television!
I completely forgot season 7 existed x_x
@@applejackjk18 really? It was the final (live action) season and at least was more interesting lore wise than season 6 which only had a handful of interesting episodes.
I somehow forgot about it when it was airing and only watched it about 5 years later, @@Wezt334
Season 6 &7 are more like epilogues
Buffy talking all that shit while she's kicking Glory's ass never fails to get me pumped. She was such a badass.
This episode will never not bring the tears. One of the best, and favorite episodes of tv. Reaslising what 'the gift' meant... that was some painful payoff.
"What is St. Crispin's?" The St. Crispin's Day Speech is the rallying speech Shakespeare wrote in HENRY V where the king talks about the solidarity and bond of those who fight together and the glory and pride you can share by knowing you fought for a good cause. It is considered a very famous speech that is used as a model for many such speeches in fiction where characters know the odds are against them but one of them then rallies everyone together. And this was originally written as a possible finale since they were being taken off their network and were still in talks to see if the show could be moved to a different network to continue.
This season finale was heartbreaking when it aired. Nothing was the same after this happened.
The "I'm just a girl" scene from the beginning of the episode was in the little promo video that fans made for you guys to get you guys to watch the show. That's why it was familiar.
I joined the Patreon just for these early Buffy screanings. So worth it. Also this line up is the *perfect* Buffy watching team. Would keep it just you guys. Everyone is involved fully in the narrative, the characters and still give us laughs.
I don't know man, I love the belly laughs I sometimes get from Pat's out-of-left-field takes. Like when he went "I always hated Willow anyways".
What about Mickey?
@@jakelover1731that's the point, he doesn't like the show that much, and he kinda doesn't get it. And it's ok, not everyone have to like it, but if he is not that invested what's the point?
There's so much incredible trivia for this episode, but for my money the best little bit is Xander exclaiming "Shpadoinkle!" upon seeing the tower. It's a reference to the opening song called "Shpadoinkle Day" in Cannibal! The Musical, which was Trey Parker and Matt Stone's first film ever. Pretty sure they were still students when they made it.
Thanks for that info!
Oh, I always thought it was a Scooby Doo reference! I thought it wa something that Shaggy regularly said. I just googled it, turns out Shaggy says Zoinks. I had my reference wrong for over 2 decades!
If I hadn’t seen the subtitles, I thought Glory sad “ok campers, it’s almost snap time!”..like a football reference..I’ll have to check the dvd subtitles..@@bellatronics
Season 5 of buffy is my favourite season and a fair chunk of that is because of this finale.
Really looking forward to season 6. Many great moments & episodes coming up.
14:57 That’s Broadway legend Joel Grey, he originated the role of the emcee in Cabaret.
Pour one out for the best season of Buffy, the ending hits so good.
I always thought of Giles as a reformed villain who was 100% hero before this episode, it genuinely shocked me he did that.
20 minutes before that he has an outloud, real conversation with Buffy about killing her own little sister because it may be the only way to save the world. One life is worth ending if it saves thousands in Giles books.
Normies, Fun Fact.
The WB billed the season five finale as "The WB series finale".
Hence why they had that big montage of the first five seasons at the start of the episode.
SE6 ... and ... SE7 of the series moved networks to UPN.
Man yall completely forgot about Kendra lol. She was the slayer that was created when Buffy died the first time then Faith when Kendra died
Actually see a lot the reused in Avengers in this episode. The punching bag, the army of mind controlled minions following a god who wants to open a sky portal on a tower. Heck, Buffy hammering a god is sort of like the Hulk hammering Loki!
“Why don’t we start with Hi 👋 I’m Buffy” ❤️❤️
As I recall, by the time the episode aired, we knew the show was going to be picked up by another network, but when they were making it I think they DID think it might be the end.
Seat belts on guys the roller coaster doesn’t stop the writing just gets better. And in my opinion three of the best eps are yet to come.
Chris immediately giving up for a second after dropping the tp roll is too real
This is definitely an iconic finale. Glory was a great villain. Excited for more Spike next season!
10:17 *Chris:* The Saint Crispin's Day speech is a famous speech from Shakespeare's *Henry V.* You likely know this part: _"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;"_
*EDIT:* I'm sure somebody already said this, but this was the end of the show. The only reason there are more seasons is because another network picked it up. But this literally was it.
Buffy died at dawn. She saved dawn.
The snake guy - Joel Grey - won an Oscar for his role in the musical 'Cabaret' from 1972 (Liza Minnelli also won an Oscar). I usually hate musicals but that one is one of the greatest movies I've seen. That might be something for The Normies in their classic movies quest...
9:42 Chris mentioning the first X-men movie - which had Joss Whedon as a script doctor. 😃They only used two short scenes of his rewrite though (one being the Storm and Toad lightning scene/lines), so he wasn't behind the senator story.
Its been a wild ride getting to the finale. And there's so much I want to say, but I can't say anything!!!!!
This was the end of their run on the WB. It was heartbreaking to watch and although we knew it was going to be on UPN we didn't know if everyone was going to be on the new show.
But I assure you that seasons 6 and 7 are great. The emotional roller-coaster is not over for the scooby gang.
Update from last Angel livestream: Surj is going to miss 6x07 due to his trip to India. He is doing a separate reaction but it just won’t be the same without him. If they waited there be a possible delay in the schedule otherwise. 😢
I would wait for a full couch reaction and they could put out one of their best or latest Angel reactions in its place if there was a delay.
I’m devastated. 6x07 and 6x08 are the best duo of episodes to react to.
This show is full of apparent throw away lines, which makes rewatching it fun.
The old guy, Doc, says something along the lines of "Did you think that only bottom-feeders worship Glory?"
So, he's a servant of Glory, just not one of her usual toadies.
23:47 The harrowing reason why Ben isn’t innocent is that a real hero in his circumstance would’ve offed himself. Simply wanting his own life was enough to keep her going and killing
He was innocent, he just wasn't a hero. But a few are.
@@somestuff7876 He was not innocent in the slightest. He murdered a load of mental health patients via alien which he summoned. Just to ' clean up Glory's mess'. With a total attitude that their lives were worth nothing now they were severely mentally unwell after Glory's brain drain. Can you imagine if he had shown the same attitude towards Tara?!
@@bellatronics I completely forgot about it.
It's a bit funny that that action would keep Dawn safe from Glory, including killing Tara.
I don't quite know would those patience want euthanasia as an option or not.
So it's hard to claim innocence. You're right.
@@bellatronics I just used to hearing argument that Ben is bad because he choose his own life over teenager that he barely knew. That angle I find ridiculous.
Season 6 gets a lot of undue hate, but it's one of my favorite seasons - the themes are AMAZING with these characters, loads of growth, twists turns ...so good.
I am one to hate it. Deeply. The show should have ended here.
Buffy and Joyce were wearing the same colors when they died...
Has to be a double drop next week right? We are due one.
Fun fact anya was supposed to die, but she moved her head so whedon was like fine fuck it u get to live
Love how in the season 1 final she said to Jenny "when Giles wakes up tell him....I danno think of something cool tell him I said it" and in this one she said to dawn "tell Giles I figured it out and I'm ok" great episode
I loved in North Texas when the show aired. The WB was a small network with no presence. I don’t think there was even an UPN channel when this aired. When the BTVS and I watched this we did not know about the future of the show. There was not entertainment news like today and most of us were not big internet users.( Ask Jeeves and AOL where the used search engines I remember) Many of us will not forget how we felt watching. The general thought was somehow Glory would be defeated, Buffy would triumph and someone will die. The consensus was Spike and that his heroism would finally get some loving feelings from Buffy. But the reactors and viewers after this episode cannot imagine the shock, sadness, and disbelief of the final 10 minutes of The Gift. All of us thought victory was achieved when Ripper killed Ben. Then time seemed to stop and everyone said that their television made the room surreal. When The First Slayer says Death is your gift , it changed. I get that feeling when Buffy starts to run…. The perfect Swan Dive… Spike , the soulless Vampire, sobbing and breaking down… and then that horrible shot of that cursed tombstone… Buffy Anne Summers. 1981-2001. No show, movie, or play made me have such raw emotions.
It was over a week later that a friend found out Buffy was returning. But what a great show that could make a dozen people feel so invested.
Great reactions and really enjoy the channel. I think Seasons 6 and 7 are great. Fantastic writing, superb acting, and very adult themes about morality and character. Some wish the show could stay in High school forever but the show is about life and the choices we make in becoming an adult. Life is a lot messier when you are 22 than when you are 16 and that’s the point. Buckle up and prepare for the last and most impactful dive into the abyss of the Buffyverse. I can only say enjoy the ride and hang on.
The magic shop scene when Anya is all “what about this” was fun even if some of it was retcons to make the finale work like upgrading Olaf the troll to being a god now so they could have a god weapon to fight with.
I loved this 5th season of Buffy... the best ❤
Imagine watching this back then and believing it was the show finale (as it was supposed to be).
Yes guys, this was supposed to be the series finale!
The old man is called Joel Grey, he's a great actor and if you see him outside this role you'll see he's actually very friendly and charming.
This was suppose to be the last episode of the show because the network they were on didnt pick up anymore seasons, but right before this aired another station picked it up but this was already shot.
Also, there was a network switch. This closed the show on one network. So the bext season is like the opening of a new show.
Absolutely gooning over the fact they are more enthusiastically cheering on Ben's death than they were for Angelus
The old man who cuts Dawn on the top of the tower is Joel Grey who has won an Oscar, Tony and Grammy and maybe an Emmy. He was the sinister Master of Ceremonies in Cabaret opposite Liza Minnelli (for which he won an Oscar) and before that won a Tony for playing the role on Broadway. Evidently, his grandchildren were fans of the show, so he asked for a part.
The old guy that cut Dawn to open the portal, I don't know if you've ever seen cabaret, he plays the narrator in it, also won an Oscar for that role as well. He's also Jennifer Grays dad. She plays baby in dirty dancing.
Another great masterpiece written & directed by Joss Whedon ❤️❤️
This was written when they were not sure if the series would continue, but they knew they were getting new seasons by the time it was filmed and aired.
But a lot of casual viewers didn’t know it would continue - the WB wasn’t about to advertise for the new network. The internet fandom knew, but the internet wasn’t as big then as now.
Buffy really was a great show. So original. The story is great but the actors..once in a lifetime show. Everything was it.
I imagine Joss had sketched out the whole season and, at that time, thought this might be the finale. After the 1st season, the show was picked for 2 years each time. Therefore S1, S3, S5 and S7 were sketched out as a finale just in case the show ended. S2, S4 and S6 are cliffhangers. There was talk of an S8, but SMG had had enough 14 hour days at that point.
s3 couldn’t have been the planned end because there’s foreshadowing of dawn
@@cchase1282 Sketched doesn't mean every detail. Also, we don't know when Joss thought of bringing in Dawn.
BTW did anyone ever notice on the gravestone it gave Buffy's dates under BUFFY ANNE SUMMERS 1981-2001, However in S1 E8 called I Robot You Jane, it gave Buffy's date of Birth on the computer screen scene as 24th October 1980. Just saying this seems to be a major continuity error.
In the end, Spike was right. Every slayer has a death wish. RIP Buffy 🪦❤🕊️
watching this back in the day was devastating, one because we didn't know a season 6 was coming. The fans thought that was it.
The Battle of Agincourt was fought on St. Crispin's day. In the play 'Henry V' by William Shakespeare, King Henry gives a very motivational speech to his troops before the battle, which they win, despite having a much smaller army then their enemy.
Even after many rewatches I'm still Rana at the end
I've seen a lot of reactions to this episode, but I've never seen someone about to throw their shoe at the screen (2:37). Thank u, Normies!
I think this is one of my favourite season finales of all time. The S7 finale is amazing, but this one hits so hard.
Giles is always such a mild-mannered kind-hearted person, so it's super intense to see him kill Ben, but he also scared me a little when he yelled at Buffy during the group meeting earlier in the episode, when Buffy refuses to consider or even talk about the possibility of having to kill Dawn, and Giles shouts, "Yes, you bloody well will talk about it!" *SHIVER Loved it.
The original plan was for this to be the final of the series entirely. The whole cast of Angel was also supposed to be part of it, and it was supposed to be a 2 hour episode. The studio then decided not to have the original plans, so it was cut down to one hour with no Angel crossover, and then was renewed for a new season shortly after
There was a reason Giles was called Ripper, and I've got a feeling it's a lot more than his love of Rock music and use of dark magic. I would love a novel of Giles begins, his dark times and what made him accept his destiny as a Watcher.
I love that the one on the end was like, “I don’t care that there are two more seasons, she’s not coming back. They buried that bitch!” 😂😂
See, Giles is a cold piece of work.
Creepy guy was the emcee in the Cabaret movie and his daughter was baby in dirty dancing
They knew there was a good chance they would be renewed, but if I recall correctly since they originally planned this kind of ending for season 5 they decided to go with it anyway because it was so tight and thematically was really solid. If someone wanted to believe it ended here, it would be perfect.
Other things, I remember watching the show week by week back in the day and by the time this ep aired most of the audience (but not all) knew they were moving networks, and after the credits there was a small Thank You text by the WB to Buffy that helped the confusion on if it really was over or not. Queue a whole summer of online speculation on how they would go from here, that was a fun time!
One thing that also makes the ending of this hit home was when this series was still linked to Angel before leaving the same network.
Keep in mind that Giles and co. had no idea that Ben decided to kill Dawn anyway! The Ben/Glory switch doesn't affect more than a few moments from the transition, so from his POV, he knows Ben =Glory, but the only thing he knows beyond that it that Ben is the doctor that saved his life. It makes the moment so much darker.
I own this series in DVD, I watched it live, and still, EVERYTIME I read that tombstone, I'm a blubbering puddle. 😭
Rana doing her best The Body Buffy impression
Guys, watch it once more... with feeling.
Hush yourself!
Cringe
@@Square-ow7oq I must've missed that episode.
@jp3813 what? You were naming episodes? Oh i think you were trying to be conspicuous.
@@Square-ow7oq Why not both? lol "Hush" is from season 4 and "Once More, with Feeling" is from season 6.
Waited a long time to see your reaction for this one. Season 5 is my favorite, having said that previous seasons all had memorable moments and reached their Mount Everest. This season is a masterclass on how to rejuvenate a show, the cast, the writing, my favorite Big Bad, (Angelus, the Mayor and Faith are less then 0.1 behind) Glory made such a splash. But guess what this season is my favorite however, the writing of season 6 is even better!!
Spike crying over Buffys body. Just break me
St.Crispin’s day speech is from Henry V. Joss loves his Shakespeare
Part of it is used in a great scene in Renaissance Man, a fun movie starring Danny DeVito.
This was the orignal finale, but Joss wanted more seasons. This episode is how he closed the show with the time he had. Then a different network picked it up for the last 2 seasons
the ordinary girl who saved the world; many times! season 5 was tough, but in some ways the next one is even tougher. oh, and it contains an episode that many say is of historical importance to the development of television! see you guys..