Interview with a Vampire | Buffy the Vampire Slayer 5x7 "Fool for Love" | Normies Group Reaction!
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- Spike knows what the women want. Death.
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The guy with the antlers is a callback to Season 3 episode Lovers' Walk, where Spike says he caught Dru with a Chaos Demon. "You ever see a Chaos Demon? They're disgusting, all slime and antlers."
When he's introduced in School Hard: "Yeah, I did a couple Slayers in my time, I don't like to brag. Who am I kidding? I *love* to brag! There was this one Slayer during the Boxer Rebellion..."
Spidey called Spike a poet back in season 3. Episode 8.
In episode 3x4 - Chris also commented that Spike seems to be writing poetry for her right before Spike fell into an open grave! Can’t wait to see the reaction.
James Marsters is just such a nice guy. There is probably a huge line and he didn’t rush Mickey and laughed (in more of a touched way) at the skit. It warms my heart that even after years of going to these conventions that he tries to make a memorable moment for whoever took the time to wait in a long line to meet him. Love how he did a shout out for other characters and the writers on the show especially when everyone gushes over how great Spike is. I have watched a lot of interviews and he always contributes the success of the show to everyone working on that show.
James Marsden IS a nice guy! So is James Marsters (the actor who played Spike). :)
@@fuionochingsung5091 lol, I wrote right the first time and then saw someone wrote it different and I changed it - need to go to sleep instead of watching reaction videos 😂 the saddest part was the comment was reminding people that James Marsden is cyclops not Spike, but I just glanced at the name.
He does the entire Dresden Files audiobook except for one (which was done by John Glover). The author model Dresden after Spike... so it was fitting.
I ordered a cameo from him for my friend and he was incredibly sweet and genuine. A+ dude
Can imagine James would be a fun guy to have a conversation with.
giles said when spike was introduced he was known for impaling people with railroad spikes so it wasn't just that guy, it was his thing
Or did it become his thing because of that guy?
That's how it works. First they wanted him only as a villain, to be there for a while. Then they came up with other story. And now as the scene with that guy techically happened before everything so that's where it all started and was the original reason.
Could very well be what started it. And then serial killers like to have a signature so there's that...
The ending scene where Spike just sits down with Buffy is my favourite. He has a lot of empathy and even becoming a vampire can’t change that completely. When he could hurt people that would sometimes come out in knowing how to hurt them even more but it’s still there.
That's the moment I fell in love with spuffy. It was so tender 😢
Marketa hated it while Rana ate it up. Spike is still toxic, but love-struck bad boys have a wide appeal.
The only reason he changed and showed more sympathy could be the side effects of the initiatives chip. Remember that vampires are demons without souls so all affection they show is twisted and never true but somehow Spike without a soul managed to somehow get some humanity back so I think not killing so many humans due to the chip somehow triggered something which never happened to any normal vampire without a soul...
angel’s curse and spike’s chip are not really comparable.
angel was forced to have a soul which gave him the ability to feel empathy and connect to people in a human way which is why he does good and is completely different from the soulless demon we know as angelus.
spike was given a chip which keeps him from physically harming humans but he is still a demon without a soul so when he chooses to do good or shows that he’s capable of empathy (like him comforting buffy in a moment of sadness) it’s a much bigger deal.
Buffy has friends and family that is the key difference.
Which is eluded to in the episode "The Wish" where we have a version of Buffy without "ties to the world" and the Master rather easily kills her.
Buffy and SPIKE sitting on the back steps. THIS is the episode when people knew that SPIKE truly cared about Buffy. Not just desired Buffy. Truly CARED about Buffy. Great Post, Normies.
The scene with Drusilla was a callback to season 3, “Lover’s Walk”. Spike was complaining about Dru taking up with a chaos demon and described him has “all slime and antlers”. Love it 😂
That rejection was brutal, he said “see me” and she said “that’s the problem”….I think that’s the best insult on the show.
That insult would be more effective if William wasn't played by the beautiful James Marsters...
@@bernardsoul5186 Who a person is isn't limited to what they look like though.
@bernardsoul5186 You think he's beautiful?
This is one of my favorite episodes of the series. Getting Spike's background, the acting, transitions... love it!
Rana using Spidey's hair had me laughing so hard
Their Buffy reactions are really entertaining. You can tell they're having a lot of fun with the series.
Same
@@chaost4544 Too much fun to the point that they often laughed at dramatic moments.
Oh God you really made him sit thru that skit...
💀💀💀💀
Spike is so not an incel. All of his vampire afterlife up until post season 2 he has done nothing but love and care for Dru. I don't feel like that's incel energy. But he does have "little angry boy" rage. It's just not incel like (in my opinion) 😂
And he gets cucked big time by Drusilla . He was an incel when he was turned and rejection is what he carries with him as a vampire. He knows Buffy will reject him.
@@gungho1284 just being rejected by one or two women just doesn't make you an incel. That would make every single, hetero dude an incel, and that's really not how that word is supposed to be used.
Spike had a lover for over a century and literally has a side chick (Harmony) while pining after Buffy.
wait how is the guy who is having regular sex "involuntarily celibate"
@@Cardboardbocs “incel” is more than it’s literal definition, it’s about your attitude to women. Whether you see them as people in their own right or you see them as sexual objects who exist only for your gratification. An “incel” rages against women because he believes that he’s entitled to love from them because, after all, they exist for his sexual gratification and they’re failing at that duty. Andrew Tate was an “incel” in common usage even though by all accounts he was extremely sexually active, because he wasn’t actually connecting with any of the women he was abusing, he just had a lot of human fleshlights on hand. A man who is not an “incel” recognises that every woman can make decisions about who she forms relationships with, that it’s perfectly possible that no woman would ever fall in love with them, and that if that’s happening it’s because that man has not worked on himself and made himself an appealing person to spend time with.
They are accusing Spike of being an incel because of the way he reacted to Buffy’s rejection (and to Dru’s in Lovers Walk): by blaming them, not himself, and by reacting to it with angry vengeance instead of self-reflection. It’s not their duty to please him, they’re free to choose not to be in a relationship with him, but he’s not accepting that and instead considers it their fault somehow.
Aw, the James Masters intro. Such a chill dude. Also, the Katherine Heigel saga finally concludes 😂.
The ship in Spike's brain and the curse on Angel are not really comparable. The curse gives Angel his soul back and makes him good again. Spike is still Spike, he just can't (physically) hurt people anymore. So when he does good he does it without being forced to be good.
YES thats why I always pick spike
Angel isn't forced to be good either. Angelus, on the other hand...
@@jp3813 Kinda true. He is forced to actual feel empathy and bad about killing.
@@fipse If he was a serial killer before turning into a vampire, I doubt that the curse would do much for his conscience.
This is such a great episode, really unpacks what makes Spike the character he is, and shows the journey he's going on.
I will say that I don't think he is really all that much of an incel. As mentioned, his response to Cecily ridiculing him is to hate himself more than her/women, and once Drusilla comes along he immediately transfers his romantic attention to her and becomes wholly invested in her. None of that really says incel to me. Spike isn't especially entitled, he just has basically zero impulse control. But beneath his violent impulses are a consistent desire for love, not for control.
Perfectly said. I'm sure an incel would've revelled in the woman's misery, then taken advantage of her vulnerability. Spike's impulse when seeing Buffy upset, was to ask what's wrong, then provide comfort.
Spike's unlife has been defined by Drusilla and the Slayer for over 100 years and he has lost Dru. His relationship with Buffy is completely warped because his violent urges are suppressed and he has no real way to interact with people besides sex and violence.
This 100%
"...and I'm all out of violence"
remember, spike already told us he may be love's bitch, but at least he's man enough to admit it.
70’s Punk Spike is my favorite Spike
This is the episode that if you weren't already a Spike fan, you became one. One of the very best episodes of the series.
James Marsden is Cyclops in X-Men. James Marsters is Spike.
Marsden is human friend #1 in Sonic.
You know him as Cyclops, I know him as Corny Collins, we are not the same
It cracks me up every time I see Spike go from the London accent to Yorkshire in the flashbacks and Angelus says when did you start speaking like that lol as a Yorkshireman James nailed it haha accents change drastically throughout England within each section and the most typical one you hear in movies is the Queens English version that you'd hear in London etc but we don't all speak like the movies portray, so it was refreshing to hear James, back in the day when I watched this as a teen each week, talk like he lived down the street from me lol
I've seen so many people say it's a terrible inaccurate accent, and I've seen just as many people say it's a perfect accent lol
19:18 In Lover's Walk, Spike told Willow how he caught Dru sitting on a park bench making out with a Chaos Demon. This is that demon.
Spike x Buffy episodes are my favorite. Spike is a perfect character. He's basically as close as you can get to a live action shounen protagonist. He can bounce from goofy and funny to serious and badass without it feeling jarring and out of place.
When you guys started this show, there were three episodes I couldn't wait to see reaction to. Season 3 finale, this one, and one more to come
I think I know which is the other one. I can't wait either
I can't wait for them to see episode 14.
Not the this season finally as well??
@@antra21 no but that's a very close 4
The one with no music or the one with all the music?
Arguably one of the best eps of the series
Fun Spike/James Marsters fact: James really does have a scar on his head where Spike does, so instead of trying to hide it with makeup, canonically he has that scar from his fight with the Chinese Slayer. Vampires don't usually scar, but that sword was magical. It's mentioned in canonical comics and such. I've been holding that comment in since Spike was introduced lol.
I love james marsters, he can do no wrong. I even liked his Piccolo in that god awfull movie im sure he wants to forget he was in 😂
I mean he was trying, there’s only so much he could do.
That he is probably the one decent thing in that garbage movie.
He redeemed himself with Zamasu though
Marsters was the only reason Piccolo was green in that movie lmao. He's a legit Dragon Ball fan and fought for many things on that movie to be changed but could only get Piccolo's colour changed.
NO HE WAS PICCOLO?!(!?? IHMHUHHHHHHHHRJDJNFNFOK
No wrong? boy sometimes I see read when someone says that phrase.
Spike has always kept that little bit of his softer side. Way back in season 2 I think it was, the Judge said Spike and Drusilla reeked of humanity because of the love they shared.
I LOVE the hilarious call-back to that episode when Spike kidnapped Willow, demanding she perform a love spell on Dru because she'd left him. He referenced that she'd been carrying on with a "chaos demon" that's all disgusting "slime and antlers"... and here a couple seasons later we get an actual flashback to it with the guy standing there awkwardly, like, "Sorry, man, I didn't know she was seeing anyone else." LOL! So funny. Nice touch.
All the flashbacks and the zip transitions back to current time are fantastic. I love this episode so much. So well done.
It's going to be interesting to see you guys' debate over Spike from here on out. I'm a big Spuffy fan since I can relate to Spike as someone trying to fight his own demons. So, I liked rooting for his redemption arc and ending up with Buffy. I don't think Marketa will change her opinion of him and I understand since his actions aren't easy to forgive. And some of the choices the writers make on his character don't do him a lot of favors. But still very curious to see you guys go on this rollercoaster of a journey, nonetheless. So, we'll see. Still a great reaction. Keep it going!
I’m right there with you 👀 I don’t see a lot of them forgiving him and some of them might even grow to hate him but I adore his relationship with buffy and the incredible character arc he has.
I think Spidey and Rana are going to end up shipping it if they don't already.
"Fool for Love" is a fantastic episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's a great example of the show's ability to balance humor, action, and character development. The episode begins with Buffy being defeated by an ordinary vampire. This is a huge blow to her confidence, and she's left wondering how she could have lost. She turns to Spike for help, and he tells her the story of how he killed two Slayers many years ago."Fool for Love" is a great episode because it explores some complex themes in a way that is both entertaining and thought-provoking. It's also a great showcase for the cast, particularly Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz.
James seems like the coolest guy man, so happy he got to see your guys skit❤
“Chaos demon. They’re all slime and antlers” - Spike
Remember she was making out with a Chaos Demon.
edit: Dru that is, mentioned during Lovers Walk.
"All slime and antlers, they're disgusting"
Gotta love the continuity, however small.
This show has always been big on continuity. One of the earliest examples is back in season 2 when Jenny Calendar was buying the Orb of Thessala in the magic shop. The shopkeeper was surprised Miss Calendar actually knew what it was used for (Spirit Vault of the Undead), since "all these New Age magic users use them as paperweights." Fast forward to the first part of that season's finale - Becoming Part 1 - and Willow telling the group that, according to what Miss Calendar left behind, they needed something called an Orb of Thessala to do the curse. To which Giles responded "Oh! I have one. I've...been using it as a paperweight..." @@HighQueenChelsea
james has some of the best scenes in buffy... my favorite you havnt seen yet... its in season 6 episode 3.... its UNBELIEVABLE and he doesnt even speak... its my favorite performance of any buffy character without giving anything away..... ill let anyone who wants to look it up have a hiunt "..; didn't think she'd patch up s--...." 🥺
The lesson is all it takes is one mistake or one bit of chance and the slayer is toast.
Love how much you guys love buffy, even after all these years its still my favorite show. the fact that you got to meet james and he laughed at your skit in a touching way just melts my heart
Drucilla killed a slayer, Kendra remember? But I don't think any of them did at the time Spike was killing Slayers
My favorite part will always be that fantastic transition between when Spike flips Buffy and the scene switches to the slayer flipping over on the subway. It's so cool!!
For fun, I get an email with a "word of the day" and yesterday's was "effulgent." I burst out laughing. Can't help but hear Spike say that word as part of his poem. Aw, Spike... never change, buddy. You can write me poetry with "effulgent" in it all day long. 😉😆🤣❤
This episode really made me love Spike. I already loved the entertainment that he brought to the show, but it made me feel a lot of empathy for him.
The awkwardness from Drusilla's date (with the antlers) was comedy gold !
So happy for you!! Congrats on the live Spike sighting and interaction!! So envious!!
Cecily (and then Buffy) saying "You're beneath me".... OWWWWWW. I really feel for Spike in those moments. So cruel!
This is probably my favorite episode of the whole series.
Fantastic episode. The flashbacks are brilliant. William was such a sweetheart! The transitions between the flashbacks and now are masterfully done. Spike said to Willow in s3 when he had kidnapped her, that he found Dru making out with a chaos demon that are all "slimey and drippy and disgusting". Interestingly, it seems Dru, who can see things, that Spike was already in love with Buffy in season 2.
Giles explained in the series premiere (1.02 Welcome to the Hellmouth) that this did not start out as a paradise. First there were demons, they moved to the demon dimensions, then there were humans. The "last" demon fed on the blood of a human, and he another, and another. Thus vampires.
End of season 3 Anya said all the demons who walk the Earth are "tainted with human blood". (I guess she didn't know about The Scourge, the football head demons that killed Doyle).
Probably even they are tainted. It's like the Pureblood thing in Harry Potter. If you go back far enough, they all have muggle ancestors, they're all just quibbling on who goes back the furthest.
Calling Spike the first Incel when Season 1-2 (especially 2) Xander is right there, man
Cheering at the idea of shooting Buffy in the face was a bit disturbing.
Pat never fails to prove he’s a disturbed weirdo. They never call him out on the stupid things he says.
idk how many times ive watched that scene and that episode... maybe 35.. maybe 100.. but the last dozen times .. i cried.. because the older I get the more I understand these really complex and fkd up characters
Giles did say in the beginning of the series that the reports said the last demon to leave this dimension fed on a human and mixed their blood, creating the vampire.
perfect episode for the real spike to show up :D
Love the SKAM comparison between the William and Wilhelm slow-mo walks! 😂
Spike has no "incel energy" at all, he doesn't hate women, he's a soulless demon and a predator as all vampires are. Vampires tend to have an obsession with killing the slayer but Spike is fixated with her in particular now and of course he had already killed two of them. The chip subdued him a little but he's still soulless.
That doesn't mean he's an "incel", though, which the ending scene further proves. Because of all the things done to him(he didn't actually choose to lose his soul and then recently the chip) he's like a tornado of emotions and thoughts right now. And some of his original personality of course still carried over to his vampire self as we've seen in this episode, so he's also an hopeless romantic. At the same time he can't kill anyone(for a vampire killing is natural, just like a predator in the wild) but he also can't actually love anyone as he's soulless.
i do ship them dont get whoever doesnt ship them
I ship them too and I can definitely understand why some people don’t (although I think they’re wrong) because their relationship is very… complex. but at the end of the day I think it’s very real and beautiful.
The Spuffy is real. The fandom loves it. Spike is not an incel. He loves deeply even as vampire with no soul. I’m glad to see Rana getting some of the Spike/Buffy heat. Spike has seen Buffy cry and comforted her and Riley hasn’t lol
SOME of the fandom haha. I never liked it and still don't 😭
That intro with James Marsters was awesome.
I don't think Spike quite counts as an "incel" because it's less about him not being able to get with ANY women, and more about the fact that he keeps specifically falling in love with women who demean and hurt him - which only makes him want them more. Spike could go out and hook up with half the women in Sunnydale if he really wanted to, but he's cursed with being a romantic at heart, and so he only wants a serious monogamous relationship (preferably with an emotional component, given how disastrous his casual fling with Harmony was).
Exactly! Whatever he is, he’s not a misogynist, hating all women the way incels do.
yeah they clearly have no idea what they are talking about lol. Spike is what they call a simp. Not to mention Spike currently has a gf and was with Dru for 100's of years.
Yeah Spike doesn’t hate women. He loves women. He loves strong women. They are dead wrong on this.
Plus honestly I don't like how they use the word, it's like a reason to hate someone for them, while I think it's a bad place, psycologically. It's like making fun of a depressed person
I have to giggle every time Drusilla says something batty and Darla rolls her eyes like, "Oh here she goes again with the crazy..." No one knows how to deal with Dru's psychic ramblings. 😆🤣
In School Hard, Spike refers to Angel as his sire and Yoda. But in this episode Drusilla, who was sired by Angela, is the one who sired Spike. Joss Whedon has said that sire can refer to anyone in the bloodline who made you.
Great Buffy episode. It really explains why Spike is the way he is a hopeless romantic with obsessive tendencies. Suddenly his love for daytime soaps makes sense :-)
I've already watched on Patreon but I didn't know you showed the skit to JM! Thank you, youtube, for automatically playing this for me, and thank you, Normies, for the skit! ❤And thank you, James, for being responsible for Spike being the best
A really good episode. I kinda wish we got more of Spike and Dru by themselves but it's not the point of the episode. Dru realising that Spike was falling for Buffy before Spike did adds a bit of a twist to the Season 3 episode when Spike came back then. And then again in Season 4! 😂
Yes, he killed that guy with a railroad spike, it's a throwback to a story told when Spike was first introduced in season 2.
This is the episode I've been waiting for you to see...
Wow, James is a great sport. I don't think I'd ever be able to come up to someone like that to show them something like that skit. I imagine any attempt would fall somewhere betwwen:
[say something uninteligible] [say nothing and let people think you're starstruck rather than mentally crawling into a hole]
YOU'VE GOT A BIG STORM COMING
No Angel and Darla have not killed a slayer before that we know of. Drusilla did kill a slayer on 2x21, but I believe that was her first also.
One of my favorite episode.
i love how one side laughed vs the sheer shock of the “i dont speak chinese “ line
i loved spike reaction
I think something very important needs to be pointed out just so that there isn't confusion: having a chip is NOT, IN ANY WAY, the same as having a soul. Yes, Spike is unable to physically hurt humans anymore, but that does not take away his WANT to hurt humans. His actions and decisions are still very much made by a soulless demon and he does not operate with the same moral compass that the Scooby gang does. Equating souled Angel with chipped Spike is not a good idea!!! Please keep this in mind going forward.
Now watch the corresponding Angel ep and really appreciate this one's genius!
I liked Chris pointing out that Spike didn't really know those slayers. He killed them and acts as if he were an expert on slayer psychology.
22:26 the peaky blinders are brummies (from Birmingham) not cockneys 🤦♂️
Riley taking the slaying that seriously where as the Scoobies handling it the way they usially do, shows another struggle Riley has with The Initiative no longer being around.
Spike, as a human (William) liked the 1800's version of Cordelia (Cecily).
Love that they recognized Angelus when Spike bumped into him. It's rare for people to do so.
Buffy had an orgasm when Angel bit her and William had one when Drusilla bit him. Buffy got off on it with Riley after taking down the polgera and Spike got off on it with Drusilla after killing his first slayer.
Spike to Joyce Summers in _Lovers Walk:_ "Have you *ever* seen a Chaos Demon? They're all slime and antlers. They're disgusting." The flashback to South America uses what was just a throwawy joke, and turns it into a world-building moment in this episode. That's what's great about this show compared to most others.
I don't think it's a spoiler to say (and Suraj asked) that neither Angelus nor Darla has a confirmed slayer kill. Only Drusilla when she killed Kendra and Spike with the slayers shown in this episode's flashbacks.
I think it’s this episode that fans went from shipping Buffy and Spike in a fanfic way to legitimately wanting to see them together
in episode 2 from season 1, Giles explains to willow and xander how in the beginning of time demons populated the earth,
Omg, I get the same feeling that I do with Andrew Lincoln hearing James in his true accent and it's so crazy to me. It's so cool that yall met James, he seems pretty chill and humble.
This is my favourite episode of the whole Boffyverse! And yes, because: Spike!
One of my absolute favorite episodes, Spike was something to fear when they first introduced this character, then they clipped his balls. This episode reminds us just how dangerous he is.
The Worst She Can Say Is No
9:45
James is a damn class act! And, the fact that he equated himself to Cordy for season 4 is absolutely HILARIOUS.
One of my favorite episdoes.
Remember Faith, "Isn't it crazy how slaying just always makes you hungry and horny?"
Chaos demon, "All antlers and slime".
Outside of the big 3-5 episodes this is the shows best episode. Superbly written and just underrated enough.
Spoiler
Lol I can already tell Marketta is gonna be so disappointed come season 6.
Spike is my fav. He's incredibly loyal, he was with drusilla over a hundred years. Spike is full of love, but i think when he became a demon it got twisted. He's subdued but unlike angel he doesn't have a soul so he only can feel things from a demon's perspective. It still makes him interesting to watch because as a demon he shouldn't care about things but he does. The tiniest bit of humanity seems to sneak in perfect example at the end of this ep, Demon says kill her she's vulnerable but the man in him sees her crying and in pain and wants to help. Even the judge back in season 2 said that Drusilla and Spike stunk of humanity because they shared genuine affection for each other.
It is wild how important Spike is to the series. And the Normies don't even have a clue yet.
I love watching this with the Angel companion episode cause you really see Angel struggling on his end
Crazy to think this episode is closer in time to the thriller video than the modern day.
"Look at the back of that head, who is that?"
Up until now I didn't realize the detail that those 3 are Angelus, Darla and Drusilla. They appear later in the episode, but I missed that moment where they bump into him before he's a vampire lol (maybe I noticed that detail 20 years ago but I forgot idk)
And the same scene is used at some point around this time in Angel, from the opposite viewpoint...
@@ernesthakey3396oh really? I haven't watched Angel so I missed that haha
That was such an amazing opening..such a cool experience ❤
It’s weird not having the second half of the crossovers
Spike might be a little bit right about Slayers, but he is really right about Spike. Spike is the one who romanticizes death and violence, he is the one with a death wish. He is such a good fighter because he isn’t afraid to die - if anything he is actively seeking it.
Never heard you guys mention it, but just so you know, Angel is Spike’s “Grandfather”.
This also means that his Great, Great Grandfather was The Master.
Drusilla and Spike don’t realise it, but they’re part of the most powerful and prestigious vampire lineages of all time.
Plot inconsistency: Spike called Angel his sire during one of their first re-meetings in the earlier seasons when he was expressing his disappointment in Angel, but in this episode Dru is his sire.
I love that James got to see that video you all made
You will learn soon enough how vampires came to be and whether they or humans were first...or whether humans and demons were first.