02:00 🤔 Long-recoil system 308 rifle by Olympus Arms - Promises lighter recoil but physics doesn't work that way. 03:02 💸 Expensive pocket pistols - Small, featureless, and overpriced firearms with questionable utility. 03:49 🎸 Guitar case gun case - A guitar case that looks like a Pelican case, raising questions about its concealment effectiveness. 04:58 🔫 Shotgun upper for AR10 - 12-gauge upper for an AR10, turning it into an expensive and unconventional shotgun. 05:31 🛡 Crusader-themed rifle - Critique on the use of Christian imagery in firearms, especially Crusader-themed designs. 07:00 🚔 Militarized police gear - Criticism of the abundance of police and militarized-themed products at Shot Show, highlighting societal implications. 07:34 🚙 All-terrain vehicle - A peculiar and impractical vehicle design that garnered unnecessary attention. 09:05 🔥 Under-barrel flamethrower - Exothermic's under-barrel flamethrower raises safety concerns and questions about practicality. 10:50 🔄 Manufacturing trends - Critique on the industry's constant push for new products to appeal to consumers, urging caution and practicality.
That guitar case just looks like a normal guitar case to me. That's the one thing Deve got really wrong. People are very serious about their instruments, as they often cost WAY more than the average gun and they are much more fragile. It's not the 1900s anymore. Nobody is using those old Desperado cases, lol.
@@psn64sat63 I agree, a BUNCH of the musicians I know would 100% put their guitars in that case, because airlines DESTROY them if they aren't in something solid.
Number 1 is especially amusing since most well-known Long-recoil firearms, also have a reputation for having punishing/excessive recoil. Such as the Browning Auto-5 shotgun, Chauchat MG, and Remington Model 8. Literally, one of the top complaints for ALL of these weapons, is that the recoil is sharp, harsh, and unpleasant.
The Seecamp .32 is a classic gun! They were the only good tiny gun of their kind back in the 80's, were reliable with Winchester Silvertips, and unobtanium. Their business model is supplying them to folks who wanted one back then and couldn't get it, long before there were other options. If I were a gun collector, I'd get one, but as you say, impractical for modern use with many alternatives.
Also great for dealing with enhanced threats like dogs with bees in their mouths* (so that when they bark they shoot bees at you). * Simpsons reference. This is not an endorsement of dog-bee hybrids. That would be completely ridiculous and impractical. Bee-gators make much more sense as a ranged+tank|stealth+swarm min-max build for base defense.
Not one for paying like 500$+ for movie quality props like that. But 11/10 would buy a ZF-1 if I saw one at a good price to put on a shelf. Gary Oldman CRUSHED that role.
In the music world, instrument cases that look like that are a lot more common than you might realize. I wouldnt' flinch if I saw that case backstage, I used to have a black plastic acoustic guitar case that looks functionally similar, and a lot of orchestral string players use pelican-like cases for their instruments.
I have seen the pelican style cases used for instruments before. unless they are black or fake leather brown I have always been suspicious about what exactly is inside, because I sold so many of the gun cases meant to look like something else.
They sell guitar shaped foam inserts for pelican cases. Traveling musicians often use them. My old roommate was in a band and his guitar player used one when they went on tour in Europe (they were a smaller band, so no roadies, private jets, private bus etc)
@@HopeisAnger I guarantee you he is not pro liberty. No one with his politics is. They all think exactly alike, have an identical set of political views and are unbearable to be around.
So... specifically with the Seecamp 32 and 380, they started making them in the early 80's, long before the Keltec as a brand existed, or Ruger decided to copy Keltec's homework. By all accounts, they're really well built, and it's a small company, which accounts for the price. Apparently, they still sell enough of them that the company can survive just selling those two models.
@@mattmarzula right now I have a truck that needs a new engine which is a big chunk of money going out right now. I have a nice Sig Sauer P938 9mm that is filling my pocket keeping me safe in the meantime
I have the guitar case. I live near a community center and a school. Seeing a guitar case shape from a moderate distance by all the traffic doesn't call out "that house has a shitload of guns" As we say, your threat model is not my threat model. ❤
@pauldunecat -bingo on "your threat model is not my threat model." I live on a boat and in a community of other boaters who live in their boats which is practically half Canadians in the winter months in Florida and most of the others are from the Northern liberal states. A moisture-proof pelican case for guitars would not even turn a head unless the folks who saw you with it invited you over to jam with them and wondered why you didn't know how to play. They might just ask you where you got it because they wanted one too in order to better protect their own guitars from the salty moisture.
I was thinking the same thing. You aren't hiding it from the people at the range or a cop that pulls you over. You just don't want casual observers noticing what you put in your vehicle when you go hunting or to the range.
@@jmr Depending on the vehicle I see it in, I might consider a guitar a better stealing opportunity than a gun. If I were a repeat felon, at a minimum there are no "possession of musical instruments" enhancements
Why do these exist? For the same reason companies constantly reinvent detergent, shaving supplies, vacuum cleaners... you know, crap we've figured out decades ago
NO!!! You have it to brutalize black and brown people. Who is this guy? He sounds like a commi who likes guns? He's almost as bad as the yankee martial.
The car: absolutely! The mini guns..NO! Your hit to miss ratio would be atrocious and a complete waste of ammo and money- The way that car rides you would need a digitally stabalized mount to keep you from missing your target 85 times after hitting a small bump. AR-15 with green laser / NV scope would be far more effective- unless you're fighting off a wall of 5000 charging hogs- mini gun is useless.
My only disagreement in two parts: 1) shotguns have always been cool 2) I think the renewed interest in shotguns has to do in part with anxiety over national gun control
Lever action not ideal for prone shooting, the classics are great historical pieces, but I am even more averse to a new one than a bolt action for the very reason the latter supplanted the former in US military use.
This has been a good laugh, listening to someone take himself too seriously. Some things are just fanciful rich people’s toys, not built for the masses. Maybe if anyone was taught self control and money management anymore, you wouldn’t have to say it out loud
@@baneofbanesI can understand why you’d say that. But I’m in a position where every penny matters. We drive a small car. I sold my hunting tool to replace my broken carry tool, and went with 9mm just to be able to afford to practice a bit. I’m no affluent man, but I don’t bite the hand that feeds me either. I don’t go about telling customers of my employer to downsize their vision, or chide them for having something special created for themselves, their family, or their employees. I revel in the craftsmanship of my trade, and love to build and fix what I can’t afford for my family. Excess and oddities power so many people’s paychecks, and so many TH-cam channels. You may not like that I don’t want to control how other people spend their money, but I’m also not going to be wanting to control how you spend your money either
@@davidelzinga9757 yah I really don’t care. No one here is wanting to control how people want to spend their money either. You seem to mistake the fact that he calls them dumb purchases with him saying no one should be able to buy them. But hey if you’re only capable of arguing with your strawmen than there’s really no point for me to continue with this.
@@baneofbanesyou provided no argument, only insult based on assumption. One man’s “waste of money” is another man’s bread and butter, or entertainment. I’m not going to pretend to be intellectual, I’m just going to laugh about people getting their feathers ruffled about things they don’t want or can’t have. If I wanted to waste money, I’d buy items from Amazon
@@davidelzinga9757 buddy you’re way to offended over this. If you’re any to waste your money no one’s saying you can’t. Doesn’t change the fact that a lot of these are a dumb waste of money. No need to be an asshole about it.
As I read through the comments critiquing this video, my faith in humanity has been restored. I am glad I am not the only one thinking he was recoding this from a retirement home from 1970.
I'll throw my 2 cents on the shot gun upper. The big appeal is that if you put in on a fresh AR10 lower with no stock it falls into the non-shotgun category (because the federal statute regarding shotguns includes the term stock) and is therefore just a 'firearm' limited only by the 26in OAL requirement, not the 18in barrel one. So you could build that upper into say, a 12-14in barreled 26.5in OAL 12ga firearm. People were doing this with factory fresh Model 500 and 870 receivers a while back, and I've also seen variations of this done with the existing .410 shotgun uppers.
You may not see this but it uas to be said. Its really a breath of fresh air to see someone who is interested in firearms etc to not be an ultra hard this blue line super patriot youre awesome dude. Keep it up
I was at SHOT range day, the olympus arms owner or CEO or whatever was doing an interview with someone else. I overheard them asking almost 7k i think for the rifle platform. Yeah, i dont know why they havent been bankrupt yet But why on Earth are you going to a military industrial complex trade show and then getting mad that the show is catered to war and police
Larry Seacamp has been making those little pocket pistols since the early 90's. in the 1970's Larry used to do double action conversions on Colt 1911 series 70 pistols. Colt bought his process and developed the ill fated Colt Double Eagle.
Physics does work like that! Take the shocks off your car and see what happens? The car weighs the same but you might say there's more "felt recoil" being transferred to the driver. The spring in the long recoil action is taking energy and transferring it forward moving the whole barrel and bolt instead of just bolt and carrier. Also some of the energy will be turned into heat energy in the springs themselves. I'm not crazy about this negative format but I bet it out performs your positive video though, and really 500ish bucks is not that crazy for a seecamp pistol. That's like 3 trips to the grocery store for a small family these days.
Re: recoil impulse. It's called "impulse" for a reason. I mean, they didn't exactly use correct term for relevant time-derivative of position, but one can understand what it's about.
Long recoil if properly setup up (doesn't slam into rifle when reciprocating rearward) than the felt recoil can be reduced... look at the Barret .50cal semi's. It definitely has a different feel.
@@ryanpeck3377 exactly, lots of the energy is stored in the springs and move away from the shooters the action cycles. He's right you can't get rid of energy but you can redirect it, store or convert it.
not sure how you got from triple-minigun-atv to racially motivated violence. if you were talking about water cannons or teargas launchers I could see it, but that thing?
@@Robert-cd5zr it's pretty fucking hard to recognize that in myself, but dev really seems to think that people are out to get others instead of just doing their best according to their understanding of reality. Like sure that thin blue line shit is cringe af and law enforcement often does a ton of harm, but that doesn't mean there aren't genuinely good cops out there giving their all to serve their communities.
I’ll chime into this conversation as well. Dev certainly has some hate towards christians. I’m sure he’s seen something bad in his past from some christians, but here’s another example of lumping all of a group together. I’m a christian, and while I don’t like his opinion, he’s free to share his view, same as I. It won’t make me dislike him, just realize we all have a few dumbass ideas in our heads
He's annoying. Yeah great way to grow your channel bud. Put down Christians call anything blue line and trump cringe and throw in a dash of war is racially motivated. Like white people are the oppressors. Shitty people are of all races and you don't need to look far to find plenty of black and brown people who are just as bad or worse than some politician. I'm all for companies putting out crazy stuff like that. Obviously it's impractical for anything other than pest control because everyone is left open to getting shot . But who cares because it's literally just for fun and wow factor
"Don't let this industry convince you, you _have_ to get new things all the time" Words to live by, and it applies to more than just the firearms industry (*cough*electronics*cough*)
It applies the the entirety of late-stage capitalism. Businesses need to manufacture demand to keep squeezing money out of their customers in their obsessive, insane quest for infinite growth
My response to item #1 = In the modified car/hotrod world there is a saying for this circle of consumerism "Spending money you don't have, on parts you don't need, to impress people you don't know."
Re: recoil, I think the natural definition of recoil is the maximum force experienced by the shooter. Thus, by spreading out the total momentum transfer over a greater period of time you can reduce the recoil.
Right. You won't decrease the impulse (force over time = change in momentum), but you can decrease the peak force by spreading it out over a longer time. Whether that rifle does that effectively I have no idea.
I have a keltec that was gifted to me in .32 acp....and it's the perfect pocket gun! Nobody wants to get hit with any bullet and it is still very lethal
@@vfonte218 I carry the P32 as well. I put a stiffer recoil spring in it and run Underwood +P that has Lehigh's extreem defense copper shaped bullets. Meet's FBI penetration with a self defense round. The stiffer spring isn't necessarily for the +P round but it makes the pistol a lot more controllable overall.
On the guitar case, they've been making them for years, we actually use these on stage a lot during tours, ours generally hold 2 rifles and 2 pistols. Blends in with the other gear on stage. Some artists insist on them in the current climate. I see them a lot more in smaller to medium settings where you dont have good security or a good way to get to a safe spot from the stage. Part of our "run fight hide" plan
You would need friends to invite you to sit at the fire. This dude has probably one other little whiney fake intellectual basement dweller friend, and neither ventures into the scary wilderness...
Only people with friends get invited to sit by the fire. Other than the 80 year old grandma he lives with, this woke super intellectual has no friends.
Yeah, this dude definitely drives a Prius with a pink fuzzy steering wheel cover and a Joe Biden 2024 sticker on the back! Everything about this guy screams limp!
The vehicle one looks similar to the ones we are buying for airborne and recon units. All the guns are to get people to take pictures with it, the real one's big might have a 240 on the passenger side
Yup, usually it has 240s. and it's showing off the different mounting points. Don't have to use all three at once. But because of his world view he thinks local sherriffs are going to run around with it set up like that hunting down minorities (or the Army will be doing that looking for innocent civilians to kill)
There's a second group buying whatever gets hyped: newbies. Whether young or just coming around from either being antigun or just ambivalent, newbies are absolute suckers for hype. I sure was.
those expensive little 32 and 380's are seecamps and stainless polished is much nicer but u have to own one to appreciate them, in the 80's it was 2 yr waiting list and they were selling for upwards of $2000, these days u can find used pieces for 350
I'm a gunsmith that specializes in box fed competition shotguns and have hands on experience with that particular AR-10 shotgun upper. I really like the concept of a gas operated AR-10 style box fed shotgun. This one is poorly built and never made it through a full magazine with any of the variety of mags and ammo that were tried. In addition, there were clear machining errors when it was disassembled and it felt very much like a prototype rather than a retail product.
Too bad you can’t find the good ole Russian made Sega 12. I use to have one and it was damn reliable. No modifications, no upgrades. Haven’t seen one in quite a while out here on the left coast.
The "Industry hype" you mentioned is spot on--geez, it's just crap your kids will have to haul off. Your advice to 'get good with what you have' is also on target. I saw the SimX visoplastic/non-Neutonion fluid self-defense rounds, that looked interesting. Can you find out more about those ?
@ 1:44 you're completely wrong about the long-recoil. Go ask anyone who shot a Barrett vs any of the gas-operated .50 BMG semi-auto's how their shoulder is doing. In a perfect world with no friction, your "physics" would be correct, but with friction and spring tension, the longer impulse does provide a softer recoil through spreading out the same recoil force over a longer period of time.
Even without friction the smooth-brained moron is still wrong. Only an idiot would think adding the weight of a massive barrel to the recoiling assembly would yield the same felt recoil. This design has been proven in a plethora of different long gun models. This dude has no business even being at SHOT Show.
Yes and time allows force to be absorbed slowly. 100 mph baseball has equivalent energy to a .22 lr ( about 90 ft lbs) getting hit with one hurts, the other can kill. But his beard and his big words make him smart and us dumb.
@vtxrecruiter I love Guntuber tardfiles. I'd have swallowed granpappies recoiless rifle by now, but thankfully, I get to sit on the edge of grannies couch for the next episode of "I'm a closet juggernaut."
"Impulse" is change in momentum with a time-component. Stretching the recoil impulse out over more time _ABSOLUTELY_ changes how the rifle feels to the shooter, just like having "crumple-zones" in a car makes the difference in a survivable accident versus a fatal accident.... and yet the same total mass at the same original velocited was brought to the same stand-still. _CLEARLY_ increasing the time-component of stopping makes a difference. And for context, I was an EMT for a while. A car crash actually has three collisions: 1 - Car hits tree/concrete-barrier/other car 2 - Person inside of car hits inside of car 3 - Person's internal organs hit inside of person. The third impact is what kills. Reducing that effect by spreading the exact same amount of force over a greater period of time is a live-saver. That doesn't mean that a 308 with a reciprocating barrel recoils less, but it means that the same force is spread over more time... and that makes a difference. "That's not how physics works!" The word "sophomore" is a portmanteau of two words "sophos", which means wisdom (like the word philo-SOPHY) ... and "moros", which means fool, like "moron". Sophomore is literally a "wise-fool" -- it's when a person knows enough to argue, but not enough to be right. That's what this conversation about recoil is. Here's a longer example to help make this make sense: if you have a heavy bank-vault door, the force required to close it remains the same, because the mass of the door is a constant. You can close it with just a couple of fingers if you push it over several seconds... but if you hauled off and punched the shit out of it, you'd break your hand... _and it STILL wouldn't close._ The difference between the two forces on the door is that one is stretched over more time, and so it's much easier on your anatomy.... hence a protracted recoil-cycle on a 308.
It's a .308 though, which doesn't kick that hard to begin with. And in an AR-10 that means the bolt already has a big spring with a heavy buffer slowing the recoil impulse down over a long distance. Reciprocating barrels make sense for something like .50 BMG, 14.5mm, or 20mm, where you're shoulder-firing something typically meant to be fired from a crew-served gun.
@@1steelcobra I think that is really cool though, like from a mechanical standpoint that they were even able to get a system like that so compact in the first place. I'd love to disassemble one, but it will probably be a while until forgotten weapons gets their hands on it. :(
your posture the entire video made me think you were doing the "cool dad" thing where you joke around before you get on to me for my bad grades or something
The guitar case doesn't seem that bad, I'm a guitarist and have actual guitar cases that look like pelican cases, they are made for touring/shipping your guitar. A person with a military/firearms background probably thinks "Pelican case! That's clearly a gun" But I don't think the average person would.
Those arent riot shields, theyre ballistic shields. And the dumb amount of mounted guns on that thing looks like its just showing off more mounting options for a vehicle we've already had in inventory for a long while. And yeah it's gonna draw attention, it's ridiculous. Some people can find things funny for being ridiculous and outlandish instead of being a buzzkill about everything
This video got me contemplating things. How in the hell does a gun guy not know what a Seecamp is? Also, the Crusader build was sick, Deus Vult. Lastly, any man that doesn't see why a flamethrower attached to a rifle is cool most likely gets style advice from the 97 year old woman who decorated that room.
Lmao, that Crusader rifle was one of the dumbest AR-15s I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to even post that trash on 4chan, which is already trash enough.
Good to see you are allright. Another elevator ted talk-like-video any time soon? Asking for a friend. Because security in america is different from germany, a video about security overall might be good
Lol I thought that it funny that he mentioned the "guitar case." It's obvious that this clown has never even seen a guitar. SKB and Pelican have been making hard shell guitar cases for years.
I think the comparison to the fashion industry is a good one. Manufactured trends to make people feel discontent to the point they have to buy the next new thing.
Did you really go to Shot Show, one of the largest gun shows in the USA, believing most of the shit there was marketed to your specific demographic, Mr. Deviant?
5:56 noticed a typo, that should clearly read 'When your bumpstock gets declared a machine gun on presidential orders' Also as a Batfan the thin blue line batarang made me cringe so hard. Yeah the guy who started fighting crime in his town because every cop but one was crooked would TOTALLY back the blue...
Your #9 pistol you hate is a great pocket pistol that is of better quality and reliability than the ones you compared it to. That’s why it exists. People like firearms that are very concealable and reliable unlike an lcp which is not.
A Seecamp, the gun that could only use 32 ACP ammo of a specific length, more reliable than a Ruger LCP? Okay, now you're just making shit up because you like Seecamp.
I saw a guy with a guitar gun case at the range last month. It's a nice case really and he said he's taken it lots of places and no one even blinks. Maybe not that bad of an idea after all. There's also a video of a photographer that keeps his $$ tripod in a rifle case and gets harnessed all the time by cops.
Carrying your guns in a guitar case is one thing, but if that's your plan, I think Deviant is right: just buy a guitar case and monkey with the inside. (I'm sure somebody makes one with hard enough sides and a sturdy enough lock hasp, if that's a concern: guitars can be expensive, after all.) The problem there is, THAT case just looks like a gun case shaped like a guitar.
@@trioptimum9027 Actually it only "looks like a gun case" because you're seeing it up close and you already know what it is. I guarantee you if you walk down the street or through a mall with that 99+% of the people will assume it contains a guitar with just a casual glance and will then completely ignore it.
I agree fully with 'practice with what you've got, you probably can't outshoot your gear'. I've been focusing on getting the most I can out of one rifle and one pistol, doing dynamic challenges, and keeping it as minimalist as practical and I'm having a great time. I have a fixed 4x hunting scope I paid near to nothing for and it has done everything I've asked it to. At this point I try to ask myself "does this fill a need or specific deficiency; if no, will I have as much fun with it as it costs?" Don't even need to go to matches, you can just set up some steel poppers and a VTAC barrier and get a kettlebell and learn to shoot while you're sweaty, tired, and at a weird angle. As an aside I've got a friend who has one of those crusader lowers and the thing has absolutely horrible quality, stuff keeps going wrong with that rifle and it's all lower related.
I went by the Seecamp booth for the nostalgic aspect but when I saw how they were designed and the price point, I did not even bother to get any video.
Many musicians use pelican cases for travel. You can fit a guitar plus cords, strings and pedals in it. Companies make precut foam for that. Also pelican cases are used for photography/video equipment probably more guns.
I’m surprised you didn’t hammer the idiotic ‘2011’ manufacturers and the idiotic idiots who stumble after them, lapping up their circa 1900 tech, no matter the price. I was midway through a nap during another ‘Best of Shot Show’ hour plus long video, when I awoke to an interviewer going over the two releases for 2024. The manufacturer escapes me, because I think somewhere in the recesses of my mind, my brain triggered itself into survival mode. I had to rewind thrice, when the presenter didn’t bat an eye at the $6,000.00 MSRP. For a 9mm 1911 carry gun. Not race gun, not super special sauce gun, but a ‘2011’ carry gun. Oh, but it did include an optic, as it had no iron sights. They were extra… Nice to find your channel. No jokes on your living room decor. It looks like every living room in Northeast Ohio when I lived there. I’ll surf back and check for the video. Thanks for the review.
@@Atlas3OO By god, I am. Thank you for clearing that up. I hope Atlas sells a zillion of them, because I am a capitalist after all. If however, I lived to be a trillion and spent nearly $7k on a tricked out show pony to carry around, I’d check myself into a looney bin. Beauty and beholder and all notwithstanding.
Number one stupid thing at SHOT show drum roll please. ATF booth. They are not a partner to the firearm industry. They serve as much a purpose there as the roofing booth at a local gun show.
I'm sure you already know this, but as far as the Seecamps go, back i the 80's, they were kind of like a Holy Grail of deep concealment back up gun, very high quality and not easy to find and expensive when you did. There are a lot of much better choices out there now, but if you really wanted one then and could never afford it on any of the rare occasions you found one, getting one now could just scratch that itch that nothing else could.
Shotshow every year is seeing alot of really interesting, really cool, and really cringe stuff all packed into one room. The new thermal holographic sight Ian McCollum was showing off is of course LEO/Military only, yet the targets on the range were wild pig. Like you literally wave a great item for pest control in front of everyone and then cock block them.
Love it spot on. Just last week I was siting in my M16A2 AR clone build( buck naked no fancy shit) . Their was a guy siting in his brand new Saint ar15 with everything imaginable placed on it. he was resting the 30 round mag on the table. I stood up blasted the 200 yard steel, then proceeded to tell him, hey I have a lead sled and a 10 round mag lets get that gun doing what it can do. Like you said get good with what you got and keep it simple.
Only on TH-cam can you watch a guy perched in the sitting room of a 1980s retirement home, try to convince people he is qualified to critique styles and trends.
I'm someone likes the Seecamp but to be completely honest the pocket .32 gold standard to me is the P32. 10oz including 6+1 rounds of .32? Love mine, never a reason not to carry it.
Pretty hard to find P-32's lately. Check around online -they are all "out of stock." Gun shops don't have them new or used around here. You might get lucky at a pawn shop if someone hasn't beaten you to it already. They are very popular here in Florida now that permitless carry is all the rage.
In defense of the Pelican guitar/gun case... Pelican and SKB do make instrument cases, and many touring musicians have these cases for instruments and electronics. The Pelican guitar case looks just like a long gun case. Checking into and out of hotels cases are often seen and commented on. Don't knock it.
Plus the earlier comment hoping that a company isn't christian, I'm afraid he might just hate white people or something, not to bear false witness. Very, very disappointing.
These days, when I find myself chatting with someone who self-identifies as a "patriot" or a "Christian", I have a good idea what I'm dealing with here. Crosses and starznstrypes shit is super cringe. And asking "what's it for" at SHOT won't make you any friends. :)
02:00 🤔 Long-recoil system 308 rifle by Olympus Arms - Promises lighter recoil but physics doesn't work that way.
03:02 💸 Expensive pocket pistols - Small, featureless, and overpriced firearms with questionable utility.
03:49 🎸 Guitar case gun case - A guitar case that looks like a Pelican case, raising questions about its concealment effectiveness.
04:58 🔫 Shotgun upper for AR10 - 12-gauge upper for an AR10, turning it into an expensive and unconventional shotgun.
05:31 🛡 Crusader-themed rifle - Critique on the use of Christian imagery in firearms, especially Crusader-themed designs.
07:00 🚔 Militarized police gear - Criticism of the abundance of police and militarized-themed products at Shot Show, highlighting societal implications.
07:34 🚙 All-terrain vehicle - A peculiar and impractical vehicle design that garnered unnecessary attention.
09:05 🔥 Under-barrel flamethrower - Exothermic's under-barrel flamethrower raises safety concerns and questions about practicality.
10:50 🔄 Manufacturing trends - Critique on the industry's constant push for new products to appeal to consumers, urging caution and practicality.
7:54 #3 ugly fashion bags
That guitar case just looks like a normal guitar case to me. That's the one thing Deve got really wrong. People are very serious about their instruments, as they often cost WAY more than the average gun and they are much more fragile.
It's not the 1900s anymore. Nobody is using those old Desperado cases, lol.
@@psn64sat63 I agree, a BUNCH of the musicians I know would 100% put their guitars in that case, because airlines DESTROY them if they aren't in something solid.
Number 1 is especially amusing since most well-known Long-recoil firearms, also have a reputation for having punishing/excessive recoil. Such as the Browning Auto-5 shotgun, Chauchat MG, and Remington Model 8. Literally, one of the top complaints for ALL of these weapons, is that the recoil is sharp, harsh, and unpleasant.
The Seecamp .32 is a classic gun! They were the only good tiny gun of their kind back in the 80's, were reliable with Winchester Silvertips, and unobtanium. Their business model is supplying them to folks who wanted one back then and couldn't get it, long before there were other options. If I were a gun collector, I'd get one, but as you say, impractical for modern use with many alternatives.
It was nice of the Golden Girls to let you crash in their Airbnb
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Thank you for being a friend.
@@rhekman I loved that show and still hear the theme song perfectly in my head 😁
Big mom aesthetic
😂 Best comment!
Are you recording this in a funeral home in Arkansas?
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HEY, don't make fun
of his grandmothers taste/house like that !
All he needs is one of those big coffee makers in the corner. 😅
....not Arkansas,....tel aviv,......ju mean u really can't tell?
mf don't you DARE knock the fake Magnolia tree. Its classy af
The flamethrower attachment is an important development step to the Zorg ZF-1... Just don't forget the little red button.
Also great for dealing with enhanced threats like dogs with bees in their mouths* (so that when they bark they shoot bees at you).
* Simpsons reference. This is not an endorsement of dog-bee hybrids. That would be completely ridiculous and impractical.
Bee-gators make much more sense as a ranged+tank|stealth+swarm min-max build for base defense.
I was literally formulating a response like this. Just needs a bolo net and the Ice Cube System.
Replay button please
"What does the little red button do? Don't touch the little red button. I gotta touch it, I gotta touch it!"
Not one for paying like 500$+ for movie quality props like that.
But 11/10 would buy a ZF-1 if I saw one at a good price to put on a shelf. Gary Oldman CRUSHED that role.
Dude, why you chillin in my G-mas house?
Probably still lives with his parents
His boyfriend picked it out
Man G-ma has the best cookies, and she has one nasty mouth. I mean the things she does with that tongue cant' be learned in High School.
Ok but the ‘totally a guitar’ case with an actual guitar would be great
I can think of a bunch of musicians who'd love a guitar case made like a pelican case, either stylistically or for toughness
Hey, he said use the things you already have. Just stick your guitar into a gun case. lol
If it actually fits a guitar yeah/ some of those instruments are in the thousands- I know a few that would buy them for that
That's honestly not wrong
@@NikiGothBunnehIt still won't stop the TSA from crushing your expensive instrument.
It's good to see that Chaz Bono is still trying to find relevance
more savage than people seem to realize. lowkey better than the golden girls comment.
LMFAO... WINNING!
There is a resemblance....
Priceless.
In the music world, instrument cases that look like that are a lot more common than you might realize. I wouldnt' flinch if I saw that case backstage, I used to have a black plastic acoustic guitar case that looks functionally similar, and a lot of orchestral string players use pelican-like cases for their instruments.
Instrument flight cases aren't out of place either .
I agree, I was thinking the same thing. Instruments can be expensive, and you want some industrial type protection for your case.
I have seen the pelican style cases used for instruments before. unless they are black or fake leather brown I have always been suspicious about what exactly is inside, because I sold so many of the gun cases meant to look like something else.
They sell guitar shaped foam inserts for pelican cases. Traveling musicians often use them. My old roommate was in a band and his guitar player used one when they went on tour in Europe (they were a smaller band, so no roadies, private jets, private bus etc)
yeah, i specifically only buy flight cases to protect my fragile gear. theyre literally made to be thrown around
Geezzz. That left turn will definetly get you some engagement.
Feels a bit contrived, doesn't it? The SOB got MY engagement.
Pro-Liberty is Pro-Liberty. I'm fine with it, as long as he doesn't promote banning speech, or any other "fascist pretending to be liberal" crap.
He earned a "Don't recommend this channel" from me. I mostly despise cops but we gotta have them. We just need better than what we now have.
@@channelview8854 yea he went full BLM
@@HopeisAnger I guarantee you he is not pro liberty. No one with his politics is. They all think exactly alike, have an identical set of political views and are unbearable to be around.
So... specifically with the Seecamp 32 and 380, they started making them in the early 80's, long before the Keltec as a brand existed, or Ruger decided to copy Keltec's homework. By all accounts, they're really well built, and it's a small company, which accounts for the price. Apparently, they still sell enough of them that the company can survive just selling those two models.
I would love to have one, they are really nice. The price is out of my budget, unfortunately.
@@PhillipFelix-kw3ziIf something you desire to the point of love is out of your price range at $600, you have problems with priorities.
They're small and stainless steel. I thought I wanted one until I got a P32. Don't want one anymore.
@@mattmarzula right now I have a truck that needs a new engine which is a big chunk of money going out right now. I have a nice Sig Sauer P938 9mm that is filling my pocket keeping me safe in the meantime
@@mattmarzulaRight. Either too loose with that L word or to quick to turn down the OT or both.
Is it just me, or does that living room look straight out of 1989? 😄
yeah... this AirBNB in vegas appears to have never been renovated since the 80s lol
I have the guitar case. I live near a community center and a school. Seeing a guitar case shape from a moderate distance by all the traffic doesn't call out "that house has a shitload of guns" As we say, your threat model is not my threat model. ❤
@pauldunecat -bingo on "your threat model is not my threat model."
I live on a boat and in a community of other boaters who live in their boats which is practically half Canadians in the winter months in Florida and most of the others are from the Northern liberal states. A moisture-proof pelican case for guitars would not even turn a head unless the folks who saw you with it invited you over to jam with them and wondered why you didn't know how to play. They might just ask you where you got it because they wanted one too in order to better protect their own guitars from the salty moisture.
I was thinking the same thing. You aren't hiding it from the people at the range or a cop that pulls you over. You just don't want casual observers noticing what you put in your vehicle when you go hunting or to the range.
@@svbarryduckworth628gotta learn how to play guitar then!
@@jmr Depending on the vehicle I see it in, I might consider a guitar a better stealing opportunity than a gun. If I were a repeat felon, at a minimum there are no "possession of musical instruments" enhancements
Ah you know I hadn't thought about the effects of it at distance
Why do these exist?
For the same reason companies constantly reinvent detergent, shaving supplies, vacuum cleaners... you know, crap we've figured out decades ago
Is the answer … capitalism?
I see cool gun, I smile. I see dumb gun, I smile. Guns make me smile, simple as.
Hear hear!!!
What time does the Mahjong start ?
5pm. We have to be in bed by 8
In Tx we use that assault atv for the pig invasions 😂
exactly what I was thinking... gotta think past the ego and condescention
NO!!!
You have it to brutalize black and brown people.
Who is this guy? He sounds like a commi who likes guns? He's almost as bad as the yankee martial.
No joke they are a menace
The car: absolutely! The mini guns..NO! Your hit to miss ratio would be atrocious and a complete waste of ammo and money- The way that car rides you would need a digitally stabalized mount to keep you from missing your target 85 times after hitting a small bump. AR-15 with green laser / NV scope would be far more effective- unless you're fighting off a wall of 5000 charging hogs- mini gun is useless.
For the same price you could buy twenty people a Tacoma and an AR. But Texas has become rightwing California. Narcissistic and wasteful.
The amount of commentors that cant wrap their head around someone being into guns but not licking faux leather footwear.
My only disagreement in two parts: 1) shotguns have always been cool 2) I think the renewed interest in shotguns has to do in part with anxiety over national gun control
Oh yeah.. lever guns, too. We were talking about that out here as a group, actually.
Shotguns are legit. The fact you now have an upper is legit too.
@@DeviantOllam There is nothing more hideous than a taticool lever action rifle.
Lever action not ideal for prone shooting, the classics are great historical pieces, but I am even more averse to a new one than a bolt action for the very reason the latter supplanted the former in US military use.
I don't think Genesis arms 5" suppressed machine shotgun is too worried about national gun control.
This has been a good laugh, listening to someone take himself too seriously. Some things are just fanciful rich people’s toys, not built for the masses. Maybe if anyone was taught self control and money management anymore, you wouldn’t have to say it out loud
That sounds like cope. But hey if you want to brag about wasting your money go ahead.
@@baneofbanesI can understand why you’d say that. But I’m in a position where every penny matters. We drive a small car. I sold my hunting tool to replace my broken carry tool, and went with 9mm just to be able to afford to practice a bit. I’m no affluent man, but I don’t bite the hand that feeds me either. I don’t go about telling customers of my employer to downsize their vision, or chide them for having something special created for themselves, their family, or their employees. I revel in the craftsmanship of my trade, and love to build and fix what I can’t afford for my family. Excess and oddities power so many people’s paychecks, and so many TH-cam channels. You may not like that I don’t want to control how other people spend their money, but I’m also not going to be wanting to control how you spend your money either
@@davidelzinga9757 yah I really don’t care. No one here is wanting to control how people want to spend their money either. You seem to mistake the fact that he calls them dumb purchases with him saying no one should be able to buy them.
But hey if you’re only capable of arguing with your strawmen than there’s really no point for me to continue with this.
@@baneofbanesyou provided no argument, only insult based on assumption. One man’s “waste of money” is another man’s bread and butter, or entertainment. I’m not going to pretend to be intellectual, I’m just going to laugh about people getting their feathers ruffled about things they don’t want or can’t have. If I wanted to waste money, I’d buy items from Amazon
@@davidelzinga9757 buddy you’re way to offended over this. If you’re any to waste your money no one’s saying you can’t. Doesn’t change the fact that a lot of these are a dumb waste of money. No need to be an asshole about it.
Imagine saying all that in front of that couch.
Grandmothers gonna twist your ear , sonny !
You know his husband picked it out.
You don't have to imagine it. I literally did it. It's in the video you just watched.
And were "literally" pointing out that you did that in the cringe video that we just watched.
@@DeviantOllam Now that's funny! Please tell me you keep your reload equipment in the dining room.
preach brother. most these people wont even attempt to hear you out and thats just unfortunate, they are far too afraid to come to terms with reality
Best reason for the Exothermic under barrel flamethrower ... Ellen Ripley Cosplay. That's good enough for me
I bought it because someone was crying about not being able to afford $375. I use it for burning underbrush. Works great.
As I read through the comments critiquing this video, my faith in humanity has been restored. I am glad I am not the only one thinking he was recoding this from a retirement home from 1970.
I love the 3 minigun ATV. You're out of ammo before that thing has pulled out of the driveway.
The guns probably make more thrust than that thing has traction too so you aren't getting out of your driveway unless it in reverse anyway
Halo Warthog IRL
Thank you, this and the comments made me actually lol on another typically crappy day!
🤣 🤣. That thing is straight outta G. I. Joe!
You cant buy it or own it anyway so whats the point
Nice to see a channel from a gun guy who's not mindlessly 100% supportive of law enforcement.
I'll throw my 2 cents on the shot gun upper. The big appeal is that if you put in on a fresh AR10 lower with no stock it falls into the non-shotgun category (because the federal statute regarding shotguns includes the term stock) and is therefore just a 'firearm' limited only by the 26in OAL requirement, not the 18in barrel one. So you could build that upper into say, a 12-14in barreled 26.5in OAL 12ga firearm. People were doing this with factory fresh Model 500 and 870 receivers a while back, and I've also seen variations of this done with the existing .410 shotgun uppers.
My thoughts as well
Or as a breacher
Interesting. A bit specialized perhaps but I could see several uses for it.
Bingo
I think they may be trying to leverage the Genesis Gen-12's high cost to offer a lower cost "similiar" product.
Does a brace void that loophole?
You may not see this but it uas to be said.
Its really a breath of fresh air to see someone who is interested in firearms etc to not be an ultra hard this blue line super patriot youre awesome dude.
Keep it up
I was at SHOT range day, the olympus arms owner or CEO or whatever was doing an interview with someone else. I overheard them asking almost 7k i think for the rifle platform. Yeah, i dont know why they havent been bankrupt yet
But why on Earth are you going to a military industrial complex trade show and then getting mad that the show is catered to war and police
Larry Seacamp has been making those little pocket pistols since the early 90's. in the 1970's Larry used to do double action conversions on Colt 1911 series 70 pistols. Colt bought his process and developed the ill fated Colt Double Eagle.
I have a Seecamp .32 pocket pistol. Fits perfectly in a wallet holster. Ultimate micro concealment.
Mr Seecamp is long dead
its ludwig welhelm seecamp
@@jaylockwood8701 For at least some time, I think his son was running the business, could be wrong and not sure what status of company is now
Physics does work like that! Take the shocks off your car and see what happens? The car weighs the same but you might say there's more "felt recoil" being transferred to the driver. The spring in the long recoil action is taking energy and transferring it forward moving the whole barrel and bolt instead of just bolt and carrier. Also some of the energy will be turned into heat energy in the springs themselves. I'm not crazy about this negative format but I bet it out performs your positive video though, and really 500ish bucks is not that crazy for a seecamp pistol. That's like 3 trips to the grocery store for a small family these days.
Re: recoil impulse. It's called "impulse" for a reason. I mean, they didn't exactly use correct term for relevant time-derivative of position, but one can understand what it's about.
Long recoil if properly setup up (doesn't slam into rifle when reciprocating rearward) than the felt recoil can be reduced... look at the Barret .50cal semi's. It definitely has a different feel.
@@ryanpeck3377 exactly, lots of the energy is stored in the springs and move away from the shooters the action cycles. He's right you can't get rid of energy but you can redirect it, store or convert it.
not sure how you got from triple-minigun-atv to racially motivated violence.
if you were talking about water cannons or teargas launchers I could see it, but that thing?
@@Robert-cd5zr it's pretty fucking hard to recognize that in myself, but dev really seems to think that people are out to get others instead of just doing their best according to their understanding of reality.
Like sure that thin blue line shit is cringe af and law enforcement often does a ton of harm, but that doesn't mean there aren't genuinely good cops out there giving their all to serve their communities.
I’ll chime into this conversation as well. Dev certainly has some hate towards christians. I’m sure he’s seen something bad in his past from some christians, but here’s another example of lumping all of a group together.
I’m a christian, and while I don’t like his opinion, he’s free to share his view, same as I.
It won’t make me dislike him, just realize we all have a few dumbass ideas in our heads
He's annoying. Yeah great way to grow your channel bud. Put down Christians call anything blue line and trump cringe and throw in a dash of war is racially motivated. Like white people are the oppressors. Shitty people are of all races and you don't need to look far to find plenty of black and brown people who are just as bad or worse than some politician. I'm all for companies putting out crazy stuff like that. Obviously it's impractical for anything other than pest control because everyone is left open to getting shot . But who cares because it's literally just for fun and wow factor
Lazy intellect. Spouting adolescent non sequiturs that he heard on MSNBC.
Leftoid brain in action. For him the police, military and law enforcement in general only exist to brutalize minorities.
Your last point is very spot on. There's a tsunami of new crap every year by these companies. We have to pace ourselves as gun owners and consumers.
"Don't let this industry convince you, you _have_ to get new things all the time"
Words to live by, and it applies to more than just the firearms industry (*cough*electronics*cough*)
It applies the the entirety of late-stage capitalism. Businesses need to manufacture demand to keep squeezing money out of their customers in their obsessive, insane quest for infinite growth
My response to item #1 = In the modified car/hotrod world there is a saying for this circle of consumerism "Spending money you don't have, on parts you don't need, to impress people you don't know."
Re: recoil, I think the natural definition of recoil is the maximum force experienced by the shooter. Thus, by spreading out the total momentum transfer over a greater period of time you can reduce the recoil.
In the "old days" we called that felt recoil and it was a significant issue for some.
An AR-10 already massively reduces the felt recoil compared to a bolt action, though.
Right. You won't decrease the impulse (force over time = change in momentum), but you can decrease the peak force by spreading it out over a longer time. Whether that rifle does that effectively I have no idea.
Don't mess with my .32 ACP!
I sure as f**k don't want to get shot with one.
I have a keltec that was gifted to me in .32 acp....and it's the perfect pocket gun! Nobody wants to get hit with any bullet and it is still very lethal
@@vfonte218 I carry the P32 as well. I put a stiffer recoil spring in it and run Underwood +P that has Lehigh's extreem defense copper shaped bullets. Meet's FBI penetration with a self defense round. The stiffer spring isn't necessarily for the +P round but it makes the pistol a lot more controllable overall.
While it's a classic that thing he showed was way too expensive for what it is...like he said
On the guitar case, they've been making them for years, we actually use these on stage a lot during tours, ours generally hold 2 rifles and 2 pistols. Blends in with the other gear on stage. Some artists insist on them in the current climate. I see them a lot more in smaller to medium settings where you dont have good security or a good way to get to a safe spot from the stage. Part of our "run fight hide" plan
You must be a real blast to have around the campsite fire.
You would need friends to invite you to sit at the fire. This dude has probably one other little whiney fake intellectual basement dweller friend, and neither ventures into the scary wilderness...
He's the asshole who reminds you he's allergic to peanuts.
Lol rite. Its like a lefty who says i like guns but.
Only people with friends get invited to sit by the fire. Other than the 80 year old grandma he lives with, this woke super intellectual has no friends.
Yeah, this dude definitely drives a Prius with a pink fuzzy steering wheel cover and a Joe Biden 2024 sticker on the back! Everything about this guy screams limp!
I used a Wilson tennis racket bag to carry my AR pistol for the longest time.... No one ever knew.. 😛
Plot twist: Imma buy that guitar case that looks like a gun case and actually put my guitar in it.
The vehicle one looks similar to the ones we are buying for airborne and recon units. All the guns are to get people to take pictures with it, the real one's big might have a 240 on the passenger side
Yup, usually it has 240s. and it's showing off the different mounting points. Don't have to use all three at once. But because of his world view he thinks local sherriffs are going to run around with it set up like that hunting down minorities (or the Army will be doing that looking for innocent civilians to kill)
There's a second group buying whatever gets hyped: newbies. Whether young or just coming around from either being antigun or just ambivalent, newbies are absolute suckers for hype. I sure was.
those expensive little 32 and 380's are seecamps and stainless polished is much nicer but u have to own one to appreciate them, in the 80's it was 2 yr waiting list and they were selling for upwards of $2000, these days u can find used pieces for 350
I can only imagine you and your significant other are home decorators of some kind.
I'll take one of those dune buggies. Do you remember the name of the company so I can place an order?
Nah, but he can certainly tell you about how they’ll be used to target black, brown, and femme presenting individuals.
I thought it was cool as hell !
It's a a Polaris Government and Defense MRZR D2 diesel side by side and DTV Arms is the manufacturer of the mini guns
Butttttttttt, are you going to use it on minorities and create a police state preventing us from stopping homelessness? 😂
Well what else would I use it for?@@Romanus-
I'm a gunsmith that specializes in box fed competition shotguns and have hands on experience with that particular AR-10 shotgun upper. I really like the concept of a gas operated AR-10 style box fed shotgun. This one is poorly built and never made it through a full magazine with any of the variety of mags and ammo that were tried. In addition, there were clear machining errors when it was disassembled and it felt very much like a prototype rather than a retail product.
Too bad you can’t find the good ole Russian made Sega 12. I use to have one and it was damn reliable. No modifications, no upgrades. Haven’t seen one in quite a while out here on the left coast.
@@lilbrother45 they're out there. The KUSA clones can be ok if you get a good one. I've built a few of those and they do very well in competition
The "Industry hype" you mentioned is spot on--geez, it's just crap your kids will have to haul off. Your advice to 'get good with what you have' is also on target.
I saw the SimX visoplastic/non-Neutonion fluid self-defense rounds, that looked interesting. Can you find out more about those ?
The seecamp is cool. It's hand fitted of course it's going to be more expensive. Also the smallest current production handgun.
@ 1:44 you're completely wrong about the long-recoil. Go ask anyone who shot a Barrett vs any of the gas-operated .50 BMG semi-auto's how their shoulder is doing. In a perfect world with no friction, your "physics" would be correct, but with friction and spring tension, the longer impulse does provide a softer recoil through spreading out the same recoil force over a longer period of time.
Even without friction the smooth-brained moron is still wrong. Only an idiot would think adding the weight of a massive barrel to the recoiling assembly would yield the same felt recoil. This design has been proven in a plethora of different long gun models. This dude has no business even being at SHOT Show.
Correct. Increasing time, kills off a portion of energy otherwise sustained.
Yes and time allows force to be absorbed slowly. 100 mph baseball has equivalent energy to a .22 lr ( about 90 ft lbs) getting hit with one hurts, the other can kill. But his beard and his big words make him smart and us dumb.
@vtxrecruiter I love Guntuber tardfiles. I'd have swallowed granpappies recoiless rifle by now, but thankfully, I get to sit on the edge of grannies couch for the next episode of "I'm a closet juggernaut."
Tell that to the Browning Auto 5 and the Chauchat.
"Big trucks are gender affirming care" is my new favorite way to make fun of f150 owners, thank you Deviant. Love your content always
Everybody talks shit on Ford until an F-250 shows up that's lifted with 35 in tires
"Impulse" is change in momentum with a time-component. Stretching the recoil impulse out over more time _ABSOLUTELY_ changes how the rifle feels to the shooter, just like having "crumple-zones" in a car makes the difference in a survivable accident versus a fatal accident.... and yet the same total mass at the same original velocited was brought to the same stand-still. _CLEARLY_ increasing the time-component of stopping makes a difference.
And for context, I was an EMT for a while. A car crash actually has three collisions:
1 - Car hits tree/concrete-barrier/other car
2 - Person inside of car hits inside of car
3 - Person's internal organs hit inside of person.
The third impact is what kills. Reducing that effect by spreading the exact same amount of force over a greater period of time is a live-saver. That doesn't mean that a 308 with a reciprocating barrel recoils less, but it means that the same force is spread over more time... and that makes a difference.
"That's not how physics works!" The word "sophomore" is a portmanteau of two words "sophos", which means wisdom (like the word philo-SOPHY) ... and "moros", which means fool, like "moron". Sophomore is literally a "wise-fool" -- it's when a person knows enough to argue, but not enough to be right. That's what this conversation about recoil is.
Here's a longer example to help make this make sense: if you have a heavy bank-vault door, the force required to close it remains the same, because the mass of the door is a constant. You can close it with just a couple of fingers if you push it over several seconds... but if you hauled off and punched the shit out of it, you'd break your hand... _and it STILL wouldn't close._ The difference between the two forces on the door is that one is stretched over more time, and so it's much easier on your anatomy.... hence a protracted recoil-cycle on a 308.
It's a .308 though, which doesn't kick that hard to begin with. And in an AR-10 that means the bolt already has a big spring with a heavy buffer slowing the recoil impulse down over a long distance.
Reciprocating barrels make sense for something like .50 BMG, 14.5mm, or 20mm, where you're shoulder-firing something typically meant to be fired from a crew-served gun.
@@1steelcobra I think that is really cool though, like from a mechanical standpoint that they were even able to get a system like that so compact in the first place. I'd love to disassemble one, but it will probably be a while until forgotten weapons gets their hands on it.
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Damn, that home decor is straight out of the 80s! Lol!
your posture the entire video made me think you were doing the "cool dad" thing where you joke around before you get on to me for my bad grades or something
The guitar case doesn't seem that bad, I'm a guitarist and have actual guitar cases that look like pelican cases, they are made for touring/shipping your guitar. A person with a military/firearms background probably thinks "Pelican case! That's clearly a gun" But I don't think the average person would.
The time machine you used to travel from your living toom in 1985 to present day would have been a big hit at Shot Show.
Way more shadowboxers in the comments than one would expect...
That pink room ain't ever never ever going to come back in style.
Those arent riot shields, theyre ballistic shields. And the dumb amount of mounted guns on that thing looks like its just showing off more mounting options for a vehicle we've already had in inventory for a long while. And yeah it's gonna draw attention, it's ridiculous. Some people can find things funny for being ridiculous and outlandish instead of being a buzzkill about everything
Gotta Remember this guy is a hard left, anti establishment collectivist. The army and police are dirty oppressors of miniorties in his world view
yea this dude is a tool lol
Yeah, he really didn't think that one through
I get the vibe he wanted to soapbox about his politics most importantly
Butttttttt, it’s gonna be used on minorities or something😂
This video got me contemplating things. How in the hell does a gun guy not know what a Seecamp is? Also, the Crusader build was sick, Deus Vult. Lastly, any man that doesn't see why a flamethrower attached to a rifle is cool most likely gets style advice from the 97 year old woman who decorated that room.
He's too busy attending B L M rallies to bother with learning what a Seecamp is.
Lmao, that Crusader rifle was one of the dumbest AR-15s I have ever seen. I would be embarrassed to even post that trash on 4chan, which is already trash enough.
Agree on every point except the shitty crusader lower.
@@vtxrecruiterwe know he's not wasting his time on any cardio, that's for sure.
The crusader rifle reminded me of some kind of orange county chopper turd lol
I love tacky gold 1911’s!
I see you love eye brow tweezing at the Golden Girls house!
Tell your mom it’s time for an update.
Good to see you are allright. Another elevator ted talk-like-video any time soon? Asking for a friend.
Because security in america is different from germany, a video about security overall might be good
Lifted trucks are "gender affirming care" is my new favorite thing
That guitar case would actually be really good for an expensive guitar.
Lol I thought that it funny that he mentioned the "guitar case." It's obvious that this clown has never even seen a guitar. SKB and Pelican have been making hard shell guitar cases for years.
I think the comparison to the fashion industry is a good one. Manufactured trends to make people feel discontent to the point they have to buy the next new thing.
You're just mad you can't afford that utv. Its a ton of fun.
@@CashBoxxer MOST people cant afford a UTV let alone one with a minigun on the back, lets get some laws changed then we might see something new
Did you really go to Shot Show, one of the largest gun shows in the USA, believing most of the shit there was marketed to your specific demographic, Mr. Deviant?
He went just to bitch and whine.
Probably not, but he is free to state his opinion of it all, dontchu think?
I doubt there are many industry trade shows dedicated to communist ideology and dildos.
@@dimm__ and we're free to ridicule him for being brainwashed
@@internetomaticyou have maga brain worms don't you? 😂
5:56 noticed a typo, that should clearly read 'When your bumpstock gets declared a machine gun on presidential orders'
Also as a Batfan the thin blue line batarang made me cringe so hard. Yeah the guy who started fighting crime in his town because every cop but one was crooked would TOTALLY back the blue...
That flamethrower could be good for snow removal from the driveway, love your sense of humor, it's like mine
Your #9 pistol you hate is a great pocket pistol that is of better quality and reliability than the ones you compared it to. That’s why it exists. People like firearms that are very concealable and reliable unlike an lcp which is not.
Better quality but doesn't have sights? Get out of here dumby.
A Seecamp, the gun that could only use 32 ACP ammo of a specific length, more reliable than a Ruger LCP? Okay, now you're just making shit up because you like Seecamp.
I needed the ending part. I have been thinking of getting a new gun mostly because I can. I should go to the range and donate to a good cause.
I saw a guy with a guitar gun case at the range last month. It's a nice case really and he said he's taken it lots of places and no one even blinks. Maybe not that bad of an idea after all.
There's also a video of a photographer that keeps his $$ tripod in a rifle case and gets harnessed all the time by cops.
Carrying your guns in a guitar case is one thing, but if that's your plan, I think Deviant is right: just buy a guitar case and monkey with the inside. (I'm sure somebody makes one with hard enough sides and a sturdy enough lock hasp, if that's a concern: guitars can be expensive, after all.) The problem there is, THAT case just looks like a gun case shaped like a guitar.
@@trioptimum9027 Actually it only "looks like a gun case" because you're seeing it up close and you already know what it is. I guarantee you if you walk down the street or through a mall with that 99+% of the people will assume it contains a guitar with just a casual glance and will then completely ignore it.
I dunno, the AR-10 12 gauge is pretty baller 🤣
I agree fully with 'practice with what you've got, you probably can't outshoot your gear'. I've been focusing on getting the most I can out of one rifle and one pistol, doing dynamic challenges, and keeping it as minimalist as practical and I'm having a great time. I have a fixed 4x hunting scope I paid near to nothing for and it has done everything I've asked it to. At this point I try to ask myself "does this fill a need or specific deficiency; if no, will I have as much fun with it as it costs?"
Don't even need to go to matches, you can just set up some steel poppers and a VTAC barrier and get a kettlebell and learn to shoot while you're sweaty, tired, and at a weird angle.
As an aside I've got a friend who has one of those crusader lowers and the thing has absolutely horrible quality, stuff keeps going wrong with that rifle and it's all lower related.
I went by the Seecamp booth for the nostalgic aspect but when I saw how they were designed and the price point, I did not even bother to get any video.
So we shouldn't put you on the mailing list for the chain sword, flamethrower attachment for the 410 shotgun?
That 1991 living room background is so rad.
What’s funny is I carry my prized bass guitar in a double gun Pelican case 😊
Many musicians use pelican cases for travel. You can fit a guitar plus cords, strings and pedals in it. Companies make precut foam for that. Also pelican cases are used for photography/video equipment probably more guns.
You have the most creative way of coming out of the closet with that background.
I just came across this channel I fuckin love it, I'm sick of Ultra Conservative gun channels.
Ending synopsis - Bravo 👍
Materialistic crap is all we know
I’m surprised you didn’t hammer the idiotic ‘2011’ manufacturers and the idiotic idiots who stumble after them, lapping up their circa 1900 tech, no matter the price.
I was midway through a nap during another ‘Best of Shot Show’ hour plus long video, when I awoke to an interviewer going over the two releases for 2024. The manufacturer escapes me, because I think somewhere in the recesses of my mind, my brain triggered itself into survival mode.
I had to rewind thrice, when the presenter didn’t bat an eye at the $6,000.00 MSRP. For a 9mm 1911 carry gun. Not race gun, not super special sauce gun, but a ‘2011’ carry gun. Oh, but it did include an optic, as it had no iron sights. They were extra…
Nice to find your channel. No jokes on your living room decor. It looks like every living room in Northeast Ohio when I lived there. I’ll surf back and
check for the video.
Thanks for the review.
@@Atlas3OO By god, I am. Thank you for clearing that up. I hope Atlas sells a zillion of them, because I am a capitalist after all. If however, I lived to be a trillion and spent nearly $7k on a tricked out show pony to carry around, I’d check myself into a looney bin. Beauty and beholder and all notwithstanding.
Your pink house Gave me flashbacks to my first house in 1993!
Lol, I've owned a seecamp for years.
It's a shorts gun. Tiny gun for tiny pockets
The cage on that utv looks so unsafe too. Like look at where/how it was bolted together. At what looked like the point of highest possible stress.
Number one stupid thing at SHOT show drum roll please. ATF booth. They are not a partner to the firearm industry. They serve as much a purpose there as the roofing booth at a local gun show.
I'm sure you already know this, but as far as the Seecamps go, back i the 80's, they were kind of like a Holy Grail of deep concealment back up gun, very high quality and not easy to find and expensive when you did. There are a lot of much better choices out there now, but if you really wanted one then and could never afford it on any of the rare occasions you found one, getting one now could just scratch that itch that nothing else could.
Ridiculing the MP5 tells me everything I need to know about you. I almost subscribed.
The ATF booth should have started it.
Does this mean that we can neck down a hunk of .50 BMG case to, say, .375 and single stack it .458 socom style in an AR10 mag?
Nic Cage pistols! 😂 Will forever think of them that way. Thanks.
Shotshow every year is seeing alot of really interesting, really cool, and really cringe stuff all packed into one room.
The new thermal holographic sight Ian McCollum was showing off is of course LEO/Military only, yet the targets on the range were wild pig.
Like you literally wave a great item for pest control in front of everyone and then cock block them.
Love it spot on. Just last week I was siting in my M16A2 AR clone build( buck naked no fancy shit) . Their was a guy siting in his brand new Saint ar15 with everything imaginable placed on it. he was resting the 30 round mag on the table. I stood up blasted the 200 yard steel, then proceeded to tell him, hey I have a lead sled and a 10 round mag lets get that gun doing what it can do. Like you said get good with what you got and keep it simple.
Only on TH-cam can you watch a guy perched in the sitting room of a 1980s retirement home, try to convince people he is qualified to critique styles and trends.
Yes indeed.
Exactly
the irony of his use of "cringe" is not lost on me lol.
dude when he was talking about the ugly purses for "non-masc presenting people"....while filming from my grandmothers house in 1994
Love that you said “BE SMART ABOUT YOUR MONEY”…thanks for the upload…
I'm someone likes the Seecamp but to be completely honest the pocket .32 gold standard to me is the P32. 10oz including 6+1 rounds of .32? Love mine, never a reason not to carry it.
Pretty hard to find P-32's lately. Check around online -they are all "out of stock." Gun shops don't have them new or used around here. You might get lucky at a pawn shop if someone hasn't beaten you to it already. They are very popular here in Florida now that permitless carry is all the rage.
In defense of the Pelican guitar/gun case... Pelican and SKB do make instrument cases, and many touring musicians have these cases for instruments and electronics. The Pelican guitar case looks just like a long gun case. Checking into and out of hotels cases are often seen and commented on. Don't knock it.
7:50 what do you mean by this?
Plus the earlier comment hoping that a company isn't christian, I'm afraid he might just hate white people or something, not to bear false witness. Very, very disappointing.
Probably the same “police are inherently racist” leftist talking point.
Yup. Told my buddy the same thing as #1 when we were headed to Vegas.
It’s the same in every industry out there. I.E. Outdoors, cars, off-road, etc..
These days, when I find myself chatting with someone who self-identifies as a "patriot" or a "Christian", I have a good idea what I'm dealing with here. Crosses and starznstrypes shit is super cringe. And asking "what's it for" at SHOT won't make you any friends. :)