Pierce has a say in his coaching hires pierce had opportunity and squandered that bad play calling Got involved with the Adams mess on social media pierce lost the locker room he got ridder and never tried to use him to see if he could save his season pierce kept doing the same thing over and expected a different result pierce could have traded or picked up a QB better then who he has on his team in free agency and didn't do it
*I'm tired of hearing such bad talk about Aidan, he's a good QB and Antonio Pierce himself acknowledged that he was wrong from the beginning of the season by not starting him but it was also because of Aidan that Antonio Pierce got the HC job.*
You Raider fans have a terrible/ Lousey team! I am happy that pierce got fired; especially when pierce was trying to talk smack about Patrick maHomes! That what he gets for being a back stabber to Mahomes! I'm pleased! Sorry Raiders.
Brah, nfl coaching ain't ez. You can't plug any bum with no experience. Dude had no experience on any level. He was a bandaid. No team would want him as a headcoach.
Yea I agree to but Antonio was not showing growth, alot of bad decisions this season, ALOT... he's not offensive or defensive minded he would have to rely on picking a good OC & DC, once they leave he'll have to do that again
@@ezmoney1896let’s see how the next coach does. Gates had respect of the players. The players lobbied to have him as coach. He was in a lose lose situation. Wished he had another yr
As a die hard raiders fan, I totally agree with you. Too many questionable decisions starting with uncle Rico starting. AOC deserved the starting job hands down...then throughout the season AP didn't show that grit that he preached the whole off-season. I like the dude and while I do think is a little unfair, he for sure didn't help his own cause.@@GrandmasterMindless
Pierce wanted to move up in the draft get a Q.B. Last year (Jayden Daniels), management Cancelled his move and picked a tight-in, when everyone knows you need a Q.B. now Jayden Daniels balling in Washington, Pierce out of a job!!!
Even in the situations where those guys came from. Demeco was a DC with the 9ers and coached in a SuperBowl before getting the job, Quinn had already had both SB and HC experience to go with their QBs. AP got stuck behind 3 HC changes and had zero QBs.
HOLD UP..ACHO you said “you’re hearing the online comments about black head coaches”, but you’re not hearing the online comments about you and JOY TAYLOR?!? You ain’t low Acho😂😂😂
@@winstonsyme5899 All he literally had was Brock Bowers, Maxx Crosby & a up & down Jacobi Meyers.. there’s nothing that you can do in the NFL if you don’t got a QB to work w/
The raiders had no #1 RB, no #1 QB, meyers at #1 receiver. And no OL and sidnt trade up to get a prime time player outside of TE. Mayo got the qb but got nothing else
Thank you!! Context..... This is 1000% about organizations drooling over Mike Vrabel. Everyone wants the opportunity to bring him in which is completely fine but let's not gloss over the fact that the "one season and out" philosophy is just dumb. To me it doesn't really matter about ethnicity. It's the wrong philosophy and a bad look for the nfl. Hire a head coach and give them at least 3 seasons to prove their mettle, regardless of ethnicity.
@@sammyslam1 One year is to short to evaluate anyone. However, three is too long unless you see a marked improvement in year two. So two is the correct number. The only ones that need to go after one year is those that fire themselves such Urban Meyer.
@@junehanzawa5165 ....i only say 3 because head coaches are not gm's and usually not given gm authority so for me i would recommend 3 years as a minimum for the head coach and 5 years minimum for gm's. For instance, if Pierce was retained in Las Vegas and a better qb was acquired(proven vet or rookie) that's basically the same as only one season because everything is completely new with a new qb. So in year two with the new qb(vet or rookie) is where i would be looking to see progress(this could be via better record or by terrific offensive or defensive productivity increases and close competitive games) Season 3 would essentially be season 2 if you get my point. 3 total years with a proven vet qb of 1 season with an unproven or mediocre vet and 2 seasons with an improvement at the position. I get what you're saying because owners should have the right to move on after one season but what pisses me off is they almost never fire both gm and head coach! The gm is the one that conducted the interview and made the recommendation. Why would they not go out together after one season? I would fire the guy that recommended the head coach, just my view.
You’re not competing in the AFC west with Antonio Pierce when the other HCs are Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Jim Harbaugh. Acho was right, he didn’t deserve to be hired in the first place
I mean besides Mike Tomlin and Tony dungee they aren’t really good head coaches lovie smith bad coach Mike singeltary bad coach Jerod mayo bad coach Romeo crunell bad coach the list keeps going you guys just don’t make great head coaches man 🤷♂️
Mark Davis only hired AP because Mr. Davis had financial problems because he was still paying the past coaches. Then, he brings Tom Brady on with money he didn't have. Now, he can get rid of AP and get a high-profile coach. It was about money the entire time.
Uhhh... no. The rooney rule just says you have to interview a black coach. Hiring has nothing to do with the rooney rule. There was no added benefit or requirement to hire coach pierce
@@winstonsyme5899That argument is the same idea as I shouldn't have spilled my milk. But, after it's done, do you mope about it or deal with it. AP should have been given two years.
Dan Campbell went 3-13 in his first year, including a meaningless game on the last week against a Packers team that rested their starters for a majority of the game. He lost his first 12 games (edit 1 of the 12 was a tie), yet he didn’t get fired after one year, all with a team he inherited, much like the Raiders/Patriots. The Matthew Stafford trade probably helped him, because owners were able to see him go to a competent team and immediately lead them to a SuperBowl win. I think this indirectly let them know how terrible the lions organization truly was at the time.
He also had 6 years of NFL coaching experience under his belt including being an assistant HC in New Orleans please stop the narrative that AP was ready for this job, cuz he wasn’t. The product on the field showed he wasn’t ready.
@@RaiderLoso20 Then blame the owner. AP had NFL coaching experience as well, and experience at other levels. Not great experiences, but experience, nonetheless. Whether he's ready or not shouldn't be held against him, because he was interviewed and selected for the job. The players clearly wanted to play for him when he took over at interim. They scored a franchise record 63 points against the Chargers, when they've been struggling offensively all year. Defense was playing better than usual and creating turnovers. Unfortunately, it didn't translate to wins. Then Adams and Jacobs left, and the Raiders never really replaced them. It's a bad situation for any coach to fall into.
@ I do blame ownership tbh mark davis has shown he sucks as an owner lol and never should’ve just offered the position up like that based on emotion but AP did not have enough coaching expertise to take over this position confidently and he should’ve understood that as well. He repeated all season long his resume is on the field well what did we see? Poor game management and decision making, poor coaching hires, 4-13 season with a 10 game losing streak. That’s pretty bad. And also The raiders did that while playing 2nd and 3rd stringers lol that chargers team was abysmal when that happened. And I agree that it was a bad situation, but I guarantee if a more experienced coach was at the helm it 100% would’ve been less of a dumpster fire
@@RaiderLoso20 A more experienced coach...Like Josh McDaniels? Don't even get me started on him. I'm just saying, at least give Antonio Pierce 2 years to build something, as was agreed upon during his contract. I think we both want the same thing; I'm a Raiders fan as well. We don't really have a good track record with keeping coaches. Hopefully the next on is solid.
@@SanamSinghKhanejathere’s a lawsuit from a Fox employee that states Joy Taylor was sleeping with the big guy at Fox to get her job, she also slept with Acho for years to get and keep the job. 😅😅 I mean we all knew it wasn’t because she KNOWS ball 😂
Dan Campbell was trash his first year in Detroit they let him rock and build his team by the 3rd year the Lions became the team he was tryna build you gotta give these coaches a chance to draft and build they team
EXACTLY! GREAT COMPARISON!!! Can’t build a team if you’re not given the time or even the opportunity. To hear they blocked AP from drafting Jayden Daniel’s is crazy. The man knew who he wanted. He wants Kliff Kingsbury as OC but ownership didn’t wanna give him 1 more year on his deal. So we got stuck w Getsy bc everyone else was gone.
This is a terrible comparison. Dan Campbell had 6 years of NFL coaching experience in multiple position under his belt before becoming a HC. That alone gets you more leeway in the position. Plus AP didn’t just get this season he also had last season to showcase himself and he went just over .500. Please stop with the Dan Campbell comparison it’s not the same thing
@@RaiderLoso20 just went over .500 with a team he inherited. He didn’t have time to build. All I’m saying is if Detroit got rid of Campbell after 1 year, the lions wouldn’t be a great team like they are now. People literally laughed at him at his press conference when he became the lions coach. And now look at him. He was given time. He drafted great guys and got better with free agency. It definitely is the same thing when it comes to AP.
@ Dan Campbell was a positions coach just like AP never had a coordinator job bro. AP coached LB and also coached in college. Lmk where Dan head coached at or was even a coordinator anywhere before he got hired in Detroit
@@MikePSUIf they hired Bisaccia instead of Daniels in the first place, they wouldn't have hired Pierce but because they did what they did to Bisaccia and their star players were rallying around Pierce, the owner decided to keep him after the temp position. Now they're essentially just looking for a complete rebuild with nothing to really offer new coaches other than a TE. Maxx is not coming back.
They don’t want black coaches/GMs picking high in the draft. But they want you to be successful with other terrible picks from prev coaches/GMs draft picks.
@@robertschoelerman7496....i think they are saying Tomlin is the exception not the rule and that is due to the fortune of being chosen by a stable organization like The Steelers. I just think the owners themselves should make a rule that gives their head coaches 3 years minimum. The owners don't tell other owners how much to pay their head coach or what sort of authority to give them but as a general rule, all new hires get 3 seasons guaranteed on the actual job. This way fans are not having these divisive debates which hurt the league. I have many friends from all different backgrounds and i hate these conversations because they are nonsensical. One year is simply not enough time for a head coach and especially for those without a proven qb.
Dan Campbell had over 10 years of coaching experience and had a plan in Detroit. AP is nowhere close to on Dan’s level. That narrative is for people like you who DON’T KNOW BALL.
@ he had time with a plan and a clear understanding of game management. AP couldn’t even coach a high school team. He literally took a championship high school team and ran them into the ground. Dan Campbell is a true leader. If you watch Campbell talk and address his team vs AP, it’s not even close. AP had his chance and blew it
Hahaha stop with the Campbell had a plan. The man was crying at the press conference. Quit trying to justify this action by saying Dan had this theoretical plan. He has a great DC,OC. And GM. Takes a village.
@@mtom7889:…and Campbell went 3-13-1 with Jared Goff at QB! AP didn’t have near that quality at QB! He had Minshew…and…AOC…and AOC has ABOUT AS MANY NFL STARTS AS BO NIX! …and…Campbell didn’t have a GD plan! People need to quit with that narrative…because it’s utter Bravo Sierra! He was flying by the seat of his pants!
Acho joy n dixon used the triangle offense to push out marcellus wiley from his show when he was at fox1. This is after marcellus put acho under his wing. They did marcellus dirty.
Yeah, but why would Joy have to sleep with Acho to have gotten the job when she was doing the manager and he could just say put her there? Maybe she just wanted to do it?
@@MrStateoftheCity Well, right now, she has her own show. By the way Acho was already acting, she did not need an accomplice - except to maybe control him is he got out of hand, then she could set him up too.
@@90sNostalgiaRewind Lol these single mother raised men going gaga and snickering over another man supposedly smashing a woman's cheeks. Let that seek in for a moment. GROWN MEN.
The Jaguars fire two white head coaches in less than 10 seasons. The 49ers have fired 5 white head coaches after one season. Would you like to reconsider?
Keeping Telesco was a head scratcher also because that roster was terrible. Rolling out this year with Garner Minshew is just terrible. Then they also brought in Mattison, like he didn’t lose his job in Minnesota.
@@peacewilliam-west2249ya. The league is already 70% black and it’s still not good enough for them. They should go make their own league if the NFL is so racist
@@peacewilliam-west2249 he kinda is cause they could flip it and be like hey there’s 53% black players in the nfl and only 25 % white and there would be no outrage
53 white and 14 black reminds me of another stat, THE AMERICAN POPULATION BY RACE!!! 59% white and 12% black... 53+14=67... 14 spots of 67 is 20%. That's 1.6x the national average while 80% is 1.35x... So, with elementary math it's easy to see that black coaches are more represented by population. 😉👍😂
Saying theres no continuity but dont even realize this is the same staff thats been in place for 3 years, the only change was adding Luke Getsy which was an AP decision, he was just a bad coach, horrible in-game decisions and game management
At least give the dude a shot to have his say in the new draft and maybe draft a QB. Brock Bowers developed well. Everyone thought they would be the #1 pick that means they overachieved. I smell another Brian Flores situation.
Pierce took the guaranteed payday even if he know at the onset it was gonna be one and done. I dont blame him. Why stick in a position for dramatically lower pay?
He was ok with tanking too. Just tried to make it not look too obvious with the wins at the end of the season. He went bankrupt and this job set him up for life.
The Raiders not being aggressive and having a continuously plan just in case something outrageous happens like Atlanta is negligent and irresponsible. Being left out of the quarterback sweepstakes last year guarantees that they will be losers for the next 3 years. I'm not sure if these owners really want to win.
Look at the Lions, they allowed Dan Campbell to develop his team's mindset and set a culture. Now they are in collision course to meet the Chiefs in the Dome !
For Acho to say he didn't deserve the job is crazy John Harbaugh was a special team's coach when he got the job that doesn't matter Acho been acting differently since marcellus left the show 😅😢
@@704jizzle2 never said I’ve done an nfl deal but familiar how negotiations work in general. Doesn’t take a genius to know that you don’t show a lot of interest in something you want a good deal on. Ap is an idiot for clearly showing interest and making it clear that that’s who he wanted.
@@gusyhernandez.....i think this is more on the Raiders gm, in my view. Ok, if it's not possible to get up to take Daniels due to Pierce openly advocating for his selection and driving up the value of the #1 pick, what about the other solid qb choices that were in this draft? He didn't drive up their values so one of them could have been targeted by the gm and gotten at fair trade value. I knew the top of the draft was primarily focused on Daniels, Mayes, and Williams and maybe rightly so but my #1 qb was Michael Penix and i think The Raiders gm missed a golden opportunity to add a + level young qb(who actually had a ton of college starts and was in my view the most pro ready regardless of offensive system) This means The Raiders likely don't get Brock Bowers if they move up to grab Penix but i value qb's a lot higher than te's..... Now would Penix have led The Raiders to a postseason berth as a rookie? I don't think so but at the time they still had DaVante Adams so i think there could have been more optimism going forward. Plus with The Jets looking forward to a season with Aaron Rodgers, Adams would have been a perfect trade asset to dangle to The Jets to add better skill position players. I think if i were Mark Davis i would have kept my head coach and added a gm.... Just a thought.
AP had no QB. They gave him frickin Minshew smh. AP had nothing to work with and it starts with the QB. The GM is to blame if anything. The Raiders should've drafted a QB last draft
The GM had a great draft. They wanted to trade up to get Jayden Daniels but Washington didn't want to move off of the pick. They wanted Penix but nobody knew Atlanta was going to draft Penix. The only issue really was Minshew which was only a 2 year deal but I think in the GM's mind they knew they were rebuilding and wanted to take a quarterback.
The GM didn't want to draft a QB because this was supposed to be a tank year. That is why they let Jacobs walk, didn't hire Kingsbury, traded Adams and pressed AP into starting Minshew. Diabolical work.
@@wray2real all of this correct but you make it sound like AOC was Rich Gannon or something. When he played teams that were better than the raider he wasn’t good.
@@JourdanChaney I didn't mention AOC, but he did prove better than Minshew in the end though. Raiders used the tie goes to the money style of picking a starter at the beginning of the year and that worked out great didn't it?
AP got what he earned. He declined from last year to present. I am so tired of hearing weak cry babies cry about a rich person being fired. It’s unfair working full time can’t keep a roof over your head. You all are a joke. Go look in the mirror yourself
2:23 at this point here. When you see a guy whose haircut is like that, he either doesn’t know what he doing or he a super genius. There is no middle ground. Obviously he is the former not the latter.
What sucks is our defense started to do some good things but now a new coach brings in new systems, probably won’t contend next year either with all the change
A lot of these owners have no clue about running or building the on-field product. Very few are willing to invest in the front office infrastructure that will help the on field product. For them a GM and a head coach should suffice to win multiple SBs wrong. Otherwise they wouldn’t quick to fire someone after 1 year if they had really surrounded the coaches with what they need to succeed
Comparing Demeco to AP is wild. Resume aside, one had a #2 pick at QB in his first draft and a GM willing to trade to the #3 pick for the best defensive player in the draft- the other had a GM just watch as the QB he wanted to trade up for get picked by an organization who took the OC he initially wanted. They did not get the same deal, do not expect the same results.
I completely understand what Acho is talking about. Yes Mayo and Pierce got raw deals, clear as day 1 year is not enough for ANYONE to rebuild these two teams. However, neither one of them put in the time and work to come up through the ranks and actually be ready to be head coaches. Neither one of them were ready to be head coaches and shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
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Dude is wearing a pink turtle neck trying to be manly
Pierce has a say in his coaching hires pierce had opportunity and squandered that bad play calling Got involved with the Adams mess on social media pierce lost the locker room he got ridder and never tried to use him to see if he could save his season pierce kept doing the same thing over and expected a different result pierce could have traded or picked up a QB better then who he has on his team in free agency and didn't do it
*I'm tired of hearing such bad talk about Aidan, he's a good QB and Antonio Pierce himself acknowledged that he was wrong from the beginning of the season by not starting him but it was also because of Aidan that Antonio Pierce got the HC job.*
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You Raider fans have a terrible/ Lousey team! I am happy that pierce got fired; especially when pierce was trying to talk smack about Patrick maHomes! That what he gets for being a back stabber to Mahomes! I'm pleased! Sorry Raiders.
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Folk never understand one simple concept. You can crash your car in 15 seconds, but it takes weeks to correct it
Simple but yet brilliant take!!!
Look before you merge
Dan Campbell went 2-14 his first year look at him now
Cant correct it if youre driving in circles.
Acho saying someone does not deserve to be hired is crazy 😂
He's probably in an inappropriate relationship with them. 😂
I agree with James, stop firing these damn coaches after a year when they don’t have a qb or good roster
Brah, nfl coaching ain't ez. You can't plug any bum with no experience. Dude had no experience on any level. He was a bandaid. No team would want him as a headcoach.
Yea I agree to but Antonio was not showing growth, alot of bad decisions this season, ALOT... he's not offensive or defensive minded he would have to rely on picking a good OC & DC, once they leave he'll have to do that again
@@ezmoney1896let’s see how the next coach does. Gates had respect of the players. The players lobbied to have him as coach. He was in a lose lose situation. Wished he had another yr
As a die hard raiders fan, I totally agree with you. Too many questionable decisions starting with uncle Rico starting. AOC deserved the starting job hands down...then throughout the season AP didn't show that grit that he preached the whole off-season. I like the dude and while I do think is a little unfair, he for sure didn't help his own cause.@@GrandmasterMindless
Pierce wanted to move up in the draft get a Q.B. Last year (Jayden Daniels), management Cancelled his move and picked a tight-in, when everyone knows you need a Q.B. now Jayden Daniels balling in Washington, Pierce out of a job!!!
The problem is these impatient owners seeing Demeco Ryan’s and Dan Quinn lead team to playoffs first year… BUT they both got their QB
Even in the situations where those guys came from. Demeco was a DC with the 9ers and coached in a SuperBowl before getting the job, Quinn had already had both SB and HC experience to go with their QBs. AP got stuck behind 3 HC changes and had zero QBs.
HOLD UP..ACHO you said “you’re hearing the online comments about black head coaches”, but you’re not hearing the online comments about you and JOY TAYLOR?!? You ain’t low Acho😂😂😂
He's a 🌽 ball brotha 😂😂
he’s a fraud 😂😂
Why do you care? You don't have a woman or something?
Why does it matter? He's not named in the law suit, he didn't do anything wrong.
@ ain’t no way you defending this lame ahh behavior 😂😂
What am I supposed to do with Gardner Menshew, Aidan Oconnel, No #1 WR and no RB’s???
Not lose 10 games in a row
@@winstonsyme5899 All he literally had was Brock Bowers, Maxx Crosby & a up & down Jacobi Meyers.. there’s nothing that you can do in the NFL if you don’t got a QB to work w/
Truth. And a terrible OC to boot. Which may or not be on AP..
@@3aces645that’s on AP for picking Luke Getsy which he did, he ruined his own coaching tenure.
@@SeussGoHe didn't have previous experience so who he was able to hire for the OC job is limited. Legit not his fault.
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The raiders had no #1 RB, no #1 QB, meyers at #1 receiver. And no OL and sidnt trade up to get a prime time player outside of TE. Mayo got the qb but got nothing else
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This is 1000% about organizations drooling over Mike Vrabel.
Everyone wants the opportunity to bring him in which is completely fine but let's not gloss over the fact that the "one season and out" philosophy is just dumb.
To me it doesn't really matter about ethnicity.
It's the wrong philosophy and a bad look for the nfl.
Hire a head coach and give them at least 3 seasons to prove their mettle, regardless of ethnicity.
@@sammyslam1 One year is to short to evaluate anyone. However, three is too long unless you see a marked improvement in year two. So two is the correct number. The only ones that need to go after one year is those that fire themselves such Urban Meyer.
@@junehanzawa5165 ....i only say 3 because head coaches are not gm's and usually not given gm authority so for me i would recommend 3 years as a minimum for the head coach and 5 years minimum for gm's.
For instance, if Pierce was retained in Las Vegas and a better qb was acquired(proven vet or rookie) that's basically the same as only one season because everything is completely new with a new qb.
So in year two with the new qb(vet or rookie) is where i would be looking to see progress(this could be via better record or by terrific offensive or defensive productivity increases and close competitive games)
Season 3 would essentially be season 2 if you get my point.
3 total years with a proven vet qb of 1 season with an unproven or mediocre vet and 2 seasons with an improvement at the position.
I get what you're saying because owners should have the right to move on after one season but what pisses me off is they almost never fire both gm and head coach!
The gm is the one that conducted the interview and made the recommendation.
Why would they not go out together after one season?
I would fire the guy that recommended the head coach, just my view.
You’re not competing in the AFC west with Antonio Pierce when the other HCs are Andy Reid, Sean Payton, and Jim Harbaugh. Acho was right, he didn’t deserve to be hired in the first place
AP got did dirty Mayo got did dirty
They're just going through the motions with the rooney rule. They're not really giving black coaches a true opportunity.
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I mean besides Mike Tomlin and Tony dungee they aren’t really good head coaches lovie smith bad coach Mike singeltary bad coach Jerod mayo bad coach Romeo crunell bad coach the list keeps going you guys just don’t make great head coaches man 🤷♂️
Mark Davis only hired AP because Mr. Davis had financial problems because he was still paying the past coaches. Then, he brings Tom Brady on with money he didn't have. Now, he can get rid of AP and get a high-profile coach. It was about money the entire time.
Uhhh... no. The rooney rule just says you have to interview a black coach. Hiring has nothing to do with the rooney rule. There was no added benefit or requirement to hire coach pierce
They use black coaches to tank and get early draft picks.
They get paid, but they don't get careers.
He never should have been hired.
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@@winstonsyme5899That argument is the same idea as I shouldn't have spilled my milk. But, after it's done, do you mope about it or deal with it. AP should have been given two years.
AP should have never been the HC tbh he was set up to fail
He wasnt set up, he wanted the job he wasnt ready for. Stop it with the excuses.
Dan Campbell went 3-13 in his first year, including a meaningless game on the last week against a Packers team that rested their starters for a majority of the game. He lost his first 12 games (edit 1 of the 12 was a tie), yet he didn’t get fired after one year, all with a team he inherited, much like the Raiders/Patriots.
The Matthew Stafford trade probably helped him, because owners were able to see him go to a competent team and immediately lead them to a SuperBowl win. I think this indirectly let them know how terrible the lions organization truly was at the time.
He also had 6 years of NFL coaching experience under his belt including being an assistant HC in New Orleans please stop the narrative that AP was ready for this job, cuz he wasn’t. The product on the field showed he wasn’t ready.
@@RaiderLoso20 Then blame the owner. AP had NFL coaching experience as well, and experience at other levels. Not great experiences, but experience, nonetheless. Whether he's ready or not shouldn't be held against him, because he was interviewed and selected for the job.
The players clearly wanted to play for him when he took over at interim. They scored a franchise record 63 points against the Chargers, when they've been struggling offensively all year. Defense was playing better than usual and creating turnovers. Unfortunately, it didn't translate to wins. Then Adams and Jacobs left, and the Raiders never really replaced them. It's a bad situation for any coach to fall into.
@ I do blame ownership tbh mark davis has shown he sucks as an owner lol and never should’ve just offered the position up like that based on emotion but AP did not have enough coaching expertise to take over this position confidently and he should’ve understood that as well. He repeated all season long his resume is on the field well what did we see? Poor game management and decision making, poor coaching hires, 4-13 season with a 10 game losing streak. That’s pretty bad. And also The raiders did that while playing 2nd and 3rd stringers lol that chargers team was abysmal when that happened. And I agree that it was a bad situation, but I guarantee if a more experienced coach was at the helm it 100% would’ve been less of a dumpster fire
@@RaiderLoso20 A more experienced coach...Like Josh McDaniels? Don't even get me started on him. I'm just saying, at least give Antonio Pierce 2 years to build something, as was agreed upon during his contract.
I think we both want the same thing; I'm a Raiders fan as well. We don't really have a good track record with keeping coaches. Hopefully the next on is solid.
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I don't get it, what is everyone talking about?
Grow up already. Men beat cheeks and move on. Snickering about it like a little girl
@@SanamSinghKhanejathere’s a lawsuit from a Fox employee that states Joy Taylor was sleeping with the big guy at Fox to get her job, she also slept with Acho for years to get and keep the job. 😅😅 I mean we all knew it wasn’t because she KNOWS ball 😂
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Dan Campbell was trash his first year in Detroit they let him rock and build his team by the 3rd year the Lions became the team he was tryna build you gotta give these coaches a chance to draft and build they team
EXACTLY! GREAT COMPARISON!!! Can’t build a team if you’re not given the time or even the opportunity. To hear they blocked AP from drafting Jayden Daniel’s is crazy. The man knew who he wanted. He wants Kliff Kingsbury as OC but ownership didn’t wanna give him 1 more year on his deal. So we got stuck w Getsy bc everyone else was gone.
This is a terrible comparison. Dan Campbell had 6 years of NFL coaching experience in multiple position under his belt before becoming a HC. That alone gets you more leeway in the position. Plus AP didn’t just get this season he also had last season to showcase himself and he went just over .500. Please stop with the Dan Campbell comparison it’s not the same thing
@@RaiderLoso20 just went over .500 with a team he inherited. He didn’t have time to build. All I’m saying is if Detroit got rid of Campbell after 1 year, the lions wouldn’t be a great team like they are now. People literally laughed at him at his press conference when he became the lions coach. And now look at him. He was given time. He drafted great guys and got better with free agency. It definitely is the same thing when it comes to AP.
@ Dan Campbell was a positions coach just like AP never had a coordinator job bro. AP coached LB and also coached in college. Lmk where Dan head coached at or was even a coordinator anywhere before he got hired in Detroit
@@jabarirawlins2602he was an assistant head coach for the saints under Sean Payton wym? 😂
“He was bad shady”😂😂😂
No QB, traded away a top tier RB, traded away their #1 WR. And the coach gets fired wtf is the GM doing so great?
The didn't sign their RB he went as an freeagent to an already built playoff team,And Adams is also going to get released by the Jets possibly.
Their RB was a free agent and Adams wanted out. Don’t act so dumb please
Acho over there thinkin bout Joys Knockers
Get rid of Acho.
You mean that rack 😂
😂😂😂😂
Leave Acho alone, he couldn’t resist them knockers 😂😂😂
@@AdeSmith-rb7ce Don’t blame him at all!!!
Acho needs to be fired
Peanut Butter.
Cans.
That peanut butter skin 😭
Peanut butter cans
That peanut butter skin 😭😭😭
It would take Whitlock to compare a good looking woman to a sandwich. He never getting in trouble he headed to the fridge for them sandwich makings
How could Pierce have NOT been hired? The players lobbied for him to be hired, and they did not have anyone else.
Just because they wanted him hired, doesn't mean he was the best for the job.
They should of hired patrick graham
@@MikePSUIf they hired Bisaccia instead of Daniels in the first place, they wouldn't have hired Pierce but because they did what they did to Bisaccia and their star players were rallying around Pierce, the owner decided to keep him after the temp position. Now they're essentially just looking for a complete rebuild with nothing to really offer new coaches other than a TE. Maxx is not coming back.
They don’t want black coaches/GMs picking high in the draft. But they want you to be successful with other terrible picks from prev coaches/GMs draft picks.
Right 💯
Mike Tomlin you wrong
@@robertschoelerman7496....i think they are saying Tomlin is the exception not the rule and that is due to the fortune of being chosen by a stable organization like The Steelers.
I just think the owners themselves should make a rule that gives their head coaches 3 years minimum.
The owners don't tell other owners how much to pay their head coach or what sort of authority to give them but as a general rule, all new hires get 3 seasons guaranteed on the actual job.
This way fans are not having these divisive debates which hurt the league.
I have many friends from all different backgrounds and i hate these conversations because they are nonsensical.
One year is simply not enough time for a head coach and especially for those without a proven qb.
@robertschoelerman7496 we are never wrong spin doctor
Who is they…?
Antonio Pierce didn’t have a lot of joy this season
😂😂😂😂
Damn! I see what you did there 😂😂😂
Apparently Acho had some Joy, among others🤗
Looks like Acho woke up pretty grumpy today lmao
If you fired Coach Campbell after one year 3-13-1. He was mocked.
Dan Campbell had over 10 years of coaching experience and had a plan in Detroit. AP is nowhere close to on Dan’s level. That narrative is for people like you who DON’T KNOW BALL.
@@YouDontKnowBall86 Campbell got time. If you don't give a new coach time, then what can they do?
@ he had time with a plan and a clear understanding of game management. AP couldn’t even coach a high school team. He literally took a championship high school team and ran them into the ground. Dan Campbell is a true leader. If you watch Campbell talk and address his team vs AP, it’s not even close. AP had his chance and blew it
Hahaha stop with the Campbell had a plan. The man was crying at the press conference. Quit trying to justify this action by saying Dan had this theoretical plan. He has a great DC,OC. And GM. Takes a village.
@@mtom7889:…and Campbell went 3-13-1 with Jared Goff at QB! AP didn’t have near that quality at QB! He had Minshew…and…AOC…and AOC has ABOUT AS MANY NFL STARTS AS BO NIX! …and…Campbell didn’t have a GD plan! People need to quit with that narrative…because it’s utter Bravo Sierra! He was flying by the seat of his pants!
Acho definitely went IN all the way IN 😂
def
He's getting his full salary for 2-3 more years, so he'll be just fine!!! Raiders are a terrible organization.
Facts
Nope. He's getting the minimum salary for 1 more season. He's a trash coach
@@bobjones5825how can u say he trash wen he only had 1 season
A resume follows you.
@bobjones5825 unlike players, a Headcoaches salary is fully guaranteed. It was a 3 year deal worth $5 million a year, so they owe him $10 million.
Acho got that gawk gawk 20000 from joy lmao 😂
Acho joy n dixon used the triangle offense to push out marcellus wiley from his show when he was at fox1. This is after marcellus put acho under his wing. They did marcellus dirty.
“I’m about to go in” is crazy work right now 😂😂
Acho owes his job to Joy has no room to talk
Yeah, but why would Joy have to sleep with Acho to have gotten the job when she was doing the manager and he could just say put her there? Maybe she just wanted to do it?
@@HardCold-Alquanshe needed an accomplice (flunky) that she could control to get rid of Whitlock and Wiley. She can't carry a show by herself.
@@MrStateoftheCity Well, right now, she has her own show. By the way Acho was already acting, she did not need an accomplice - except to maybe control him is he got out of hand, then she could set him up too.
The irony ... Their topic is about others being fired but they gonna get canceled soon !
They shouldn’t get cancelled they the best sports show fr
Is that what u hoping for?🤔
Nah chill bro don’t say that I fw this show if anything let Acho go
“Raw Deal” 😅
He’s going in….Joy
Where all the energy and long winded intros Acho?😂
Hold on. So Pierce want Daniels and was blocked from getting him - then gets fired? It could not have been for poor decisions.
Acho better worry about HIS job & save that energy 😂
Why? He smashed, thats not illegal
😂😂😂😂
Talking about this stuff is his job.
@90sNostalgiaRewind Of course it's not illegal but Fox is known for getting rid of loose ends.
@@90sNostalgiaRewind Lol these single mother raised men going gaga and snickering over another man supposedly smashing a woman's cheeks. Let that seek in for a moment. GROWN MEN.
Makes sense when you’re competing against Sean Payton, Andy Reid and John Harbaugh. Who is Antonio Pierce against them?
You got a point but why hire him to begin with?
Jim harbaugh
AP was a nobody after they took all his weapons away , and refused to hire a decent OC.
Say what you want they have less patience with black coaches. They other man is most likely to keep his job with the same roster lol
The Jaguars fire two white head coaches in less than 10 seasons.
The 49ers have fired 5 white head coaches after one season. Would you like to reconsider?
@@winstonsyme5899no 😒
@
I wouldn’t expect anything less from a group that only makes excuses and blame others.
@@winstonsyme5899 shut up u racist lame corny yt boy 😂😂😂 u hate to look at yourself in the mirror
Acho: I'm about to go in, where? in Joy?
I don't get it, what is everyone talking about?
@@SanamSinghKhaneja been for a week now, update your browser buddy
I don’t see why two adults hooking up is so funny to everyone 💀
Man shut up let us have our fun 😂
Ppl are corny that’s it
@@jabarirawlins2602 you're a goofy.
Two adults hooking up to plot against two other's careers, one of whom they called a friend, is more interesting than funny. ALLEGEDLY
One is married and laying on her back to get to the top tho
Keeping Telesco was a head scratcher also because that roster was terrible. Rolling out this year with Garner Minshew is just terrible. Then they also brought in Mattison, like he didn’t lose his job in Minnesota.
If you take Acho out of these 4 gentlemen, there would be no joy.
AP was not HC material. Stop with your Raiders hate
Acho was getting a raw deal 🍑
I don't get it, what is everyone talking about?
Some teams can learn from the Lions how they let Dan Campell cook and build the team ..
Joyous day when I see acho on the show. He’s the real deal.
The raw deal.
@@GoodVibesPresidentI like this better
They consistently setting Black head coaches up for failures with Rookie QB’s or a trash Qb’s
Two black coaches fired after only one season..something not right here
They gotta do better
Same ish…ain’t nothing ever gonna really change…
Stop bringing race into it goofy.
Yeah they fkn suck lol
Yep... same old stuffs.... usually coaches get 3 years
Y’all knew what you did with the title 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Does acho know the difference between best and valuable 😂😂
Acho goes along wth the hot take. His takes are usually popular takes instead of his own beliefs!
Bruh be fishing with these white and black head coach firings
Is he though?
@@peacewilliam-west2249ya. The league is already 70% black and it’s still not good enough for them. They should go make their own league if the NFL is so racist
Nah those stats were horrendous...
@@peacewilliam-west2249 he kinda is cause they could flip it and be like hey there’s 53% black players in the nfl and only 25 % white and there would be no outrage
Nah my guy he ain't fishing
Shady: Woah woah woah... That's my Grandma cousins brother
😂😂😂
Raiders should have hired Harbough. They listened to the players and look what happened.
should’ve traded up in the draft regardless… could’ve had Jayden
Harbaugh couldn't do anything with this team
Should have a QB GOOFY
They would be in the same situation
Should have had a QB my guy
53 white and 14 black reminds me of another stat, THE AMERICAN POPULATION BY RACE!!! 59% white and 12% black... 53+14=67... 14 spots of 67 is 20%. That's 1.6x the national average while 80% is 1.35x... So, with elementary math it's easy to see that black coaches are more represented by population. 😉👍😂
That Joy Got Tha Bag From Breaking Tricks😂💰
Thought Acho was gonna say I’m gonna take you on a “Joy ride” instead of rollercoaster😂
Acho sucks man he wishes he was Blanco
Saying theres no continuity but dont even realize this is the same staff thats been in place for 3 years, the only change was adding Luke Getsy which was an AP decision, he was just a bad coach, horrible in-game decisions and game management
He settled for Getsy when they wouldn't give Kingsbury the third year he was asking for.
On the Average it takes 3 years! To get a idea. Of what's going on. This is not Microwave Sports! Roman noodles Edition.
"Roman noodles?" WHAT LMAO
At least give the dude a shot to have his say in the new draft and maybe draft a QB. Brock Bowers developed well. Everyone thought they would be the #1 pick that means they overachieved. I smell another Brian Flores situation.
Pierce took the guaranteed payday even if he know at the onset it was gonna be one and done. I dont blame him. Why stick in a position for dramatically lower pay?
He was ok with tanking too. Just tried to make it not look too obvious with the wins at the end of the season. He went bankrupt and this job set him up for life.
The Raiders not being aggressive and having a continuously plan just in case something outrageous happens like Atlanta is negligent and irresponsible. Being left out of the quarterback sweepstakes last year guarantees that they will be losers for the next 3 years. I'm not sure if these owners really want to win.
Do all of the people who are crying & claiming racism realize the Raiders didn’t even want to hire him to begin with?
So does that make it less Racist?? Clown comment
@@704jizzle2 what is racist about an employer firing an employee who didn’t execute their job?
are u dumb
Look at the Lions, they allowed Dan Campbell to develop his team's mindset and set a culture. Now they are in collision course to meet the Chiefs in the Dome !
Leave Acho alone work place romance can be fun as long as both parties are single and willing participants ✌️
For Acho to say he didn't deserve the job is crazy John Harbaugh was a special team's coach when he got the job that doesn't matter Acho been acting differently since marcellus left the show 😅😢
Pierce drove the asking price up on trading up in the draft by repeatedly saying he wanted Daniels. That’s not how you negotiate a deal.
How many NFL deals have you done?
Washington wasn't trading that pick, let that one go
@@704jizzle2 never said I’ve done an nfl deal but familiar how negotiations work in general. Doesn’t take a genius to know that you don’t show a lot of interest in something you want a good deal on. Ap is an idiot for clearly showing interest and making it clear that that’s who he wanted.
@ maybe not but if they would have they knew the raiders was the team that wanted him the most because ap couldn’t keep his mouth shut
@@gusyhernandez.....i think this is more on the Raiders gm, in my view.
Ok, if it's not possible to get up to take Daniels due to Pierce openly advocating for his selection and driving up the value of the #1 pick, what about the other solid qb choices that were in this draft?
He didn't drive up their values so one of them could have been targeted by the gm and gotten at fair trade value.
I knew the top of the draft was primarily focused on Daniels, Mayes, and Williams and maybe rightly so but my #1 qb was Michael Penix and i think The Raiders gm missed a golden opportunity to add a + level young qb(who actually had a ton of college starts and was in my view the most pro ready regardless of offensive system)
This means The Raiders likely don't get Brock Bowers if they move up to grab Penix but i value qb's a lot higher than te's.....
Now would Penix have led The Raiders to a postseason berth as a rookie?
I don't think so but at the time they still had DaVante Adams so i think there could have been more optimism going forward.
Plus with The Jets looking forward to a season with Aaron Rodgers, Adams would have been a perfect trade asset to dangle to The Jets to add better skill position players.
I think if i were Mark Davis i would have kept my head coach and added a gm....
Just a thought.
AP had no QB. They gave him frickin Minshew smh. AP had nothing to work with and it starts with the QB. The GM is to blame if anything. The Raiders should've drafted a QB last draft
The GM had a great draft. They wanted to trade up to get Jayden Daniels but Washington didn't want to move off of the pick. They wanted Penix but nobody knew Atlanta was going to draft Penix. The only issue really was Minshew which was only a 2 year deal but I think in the GM's mind they knew they were rebuilding and wanted to take a quarterback.
The GM didn't want to draft a QB because this was supposed to be a tank year. That is why they let Jacobs walk, didn't hire Kingsbury, traded Adams and pressed AP into starting Minshew. Diabolical work.
@@wray2real all of this correct but you make it sound like AOC was Rich Gannon or something. When he played teams that were better than the raider he wasn’t good.
@@JourdanChaney I didn't mention AOC, but he did prove better than Minshew in the end though. Raiders used the tie goes to the money style of picking a starter at the beginning of the year and that worked out great didn't it?
@@wray2real Honestly you could have started either one in the beginning of the season and it would not have worked out so what's the point?
AP got what he earned. He declined from last year to present. I am so tired of hearing weak cry babies cry about a rich person being fired. It’s unfair working full time can’t keep a roof over your head. You all are a joke. Go look in the mirror yourself
2:23 at this point here. When you see a guy whose haircut is like that, he either doesn’t know what he doing or he a super genius. There is no middle ground. Obviously he is the former not the latter.
Hey, my boy was Finna say the F word 😂😂
Acho must have dirt on someone else cause he has no problem going in
Call it what it iz.....
HEATED DEBATE between Shady, Chase and Jones. They need some joy after this show!
Acho a troll he wore Joys Sweater to work today!🤦🏾♂️😂😂
What sucks is our defense started to do some good things but now a new coach brings in new systems, probably won’t contend next year either with all the change
A lot of these owners have no clue about running or building the on-field product. Very few are willing to invest in the front office infrastructure that will help the on field product. For them a GM and a head coach should suffice to win multiple SBs wrong. Otherwise they wouldn’t quick to fire someone after 1 year if they had really surrounded the coaches with what they need to succeed
He already gave Joy his thanggg 😂
We knew Acho was gonna try to find a way to dismiss the injustice
Yall done ran these acho/joy jokes into the ground already 😂
Acho was playing with that Joystick earlier 😂
Acho really tries to be so damn smart.
I love James jones dude don’t cut no slack 😂❤
*ACHO AND JOY* ❤
I’m not disappointed and not surprised just waiting for TB to take action!!! What a relief
Why does it always have to be racial? Smfh
Where do Ron Rivera and Robert Saleh fall into this?
Vegas shouldn't have let go of Antonio Pierce they didn't give him a chance a coach can't turn a team around in 1 year.
Acho the Joy-ful one!!!
ALSO NO DAVANTE...NAME ANOTHER GOOD 2 GR8 PLAYER BESIDES CROSBY OR BOWERS
Comparing Demeco to AP is wild. Resume aside, one had a #2 pick at QB in his first draft and a GM willing to trade to the #3 pick for the best defensive player in the draft- the other had a GM just watch as the QB he wanted to trade up for get picked by an organization who took the OC he initially wanted. They did not get the same deal, do not expect the same results.
I completely understand what Acho is talking about. Yes Mayo and Pierce got raw deals, clear as day 1 year is not enough for ANYONE to rebuild these two teams. However, neither one of them put in the time and work to come up through the ranks and actually be ready to be head coaches. Neither one of them were ready to be head coaches and shouldn't have been hired in the first place.
Mark Davis don’t give a damn bout the raiders fans or organization, as long as he’s getting money he gonna keep the coach carousel going 😠
Acho knows a little bit about someone getting hired and don’t deserve it…………………Joy.