Really good video, I enjoyed watching it!! I went to Leica store here in Porto-Portugal to check on the M11-d and I felt the same way. It's an amazing camera
I really enjoyed your review of the M11-D, and the images look great. Singapore is one of my favourite places to visit. I was there a couple of months ago and purchased an M11-P while there. Happy days.
The M11-D is fantastic... and with the firmware/app update from Leica launched today the camera is even that much more functional. Technically, it is different than the M11-P with a different top plate and body parts.
@@silveranddye Can now format the M11's from the app, can now apply Leica Look jpeg treatments to M11 and AFTER the shot. Also can transfer web sized images via Bluetooth to app in the background (and very low energy consumption), making the ability to share/post pics to social media much easier. All very good improvements.
Thank you for the watch. I do have a rough outline of what I want to talk about so that I don’t go off track coupled with some facts on hand if necessary. Maybe in future a word for word script would have saved me time on editing 😅
but... how do you adjust the settings (timer, ev. comp.), or format the card?, does everything in setup menus reside in a phone app?, or require a tethered connection.
Yes through the app, I didn’t use an SD card tho, but I reckon you could format the SD card using your desktop when you import the images. As for the other functions, I don’t usually meddle with those alot, the only decision I make is what film I am shooting, what aperture and what shutter speed and for the case of the M11-D all those functions are physical dials I could adjust either on the camera or on the lens.
@@silveranddye I asked about the card, as most makers specify you format on the device you use, as computers use ntsc or fat 32 and some cameras like a specific folder (DCIM) to file under, the camera format process re-does this file system on format, the computer one leaves the disk empty; also the flash and white balance are important controls in digital, as well as focus point, box type, even button assignments, etc. Hasselblad did this on their H1's initially (i-xpress backs)- these also where screenless, using a separate hard drive, similar to the 'imagers' used on telescopes, just a sensor pack, all else on cable connection, set in Flexcolor, tethered up.
M10D has been my day to day carry in the last 3-4 years even though I do have all the other LCD enabled Ms, CL, Qs, SL2S, etc. I have 8 various Leica Digital Cameras, if I were asked to keep only one, it is no branier for me to keep M10D. Not sure I would upgrade/move to M11D but my M10D has been such great Delight and help me being a Dedicated, Disciplined, & Desivie photograher without being Distracted, Dysfunctional and spent uncessary energy Detect photos over LCDs and missed next best shot. This camera cares intrisic value creation, if you cares about other functional requirments, there are plenty other great options too. M10D/M11D is great for photograhers with certain mindset that certainly is not a popular one. This is such a niche camera, few people own this camera would ever sell/release it, that is why it is quite difficult to find one at 2nd hand market. I was lucky to find one with a great 2nd hand price. I will see if I ever to meet M11D in the 2nd market…
Yes I realised it while I was editing especially when I am using the M6 as an example lol, what I meant to say was originally the dial was meant as a reminder but thanks for pointing it out
Really good video! For what it's worth, it would have been nice to see more of your photographs sprinkled throughout the video. Also, your English is definitely good enough that you probably don't need to add subtitles if you don't want to go through the effort. They're not bad or distracting, but they're also not necessary in my opinion.
Thank you for the constructive advice 🙏 I actually added the hardcoded subtitles in as I was told previously that I needed them. I guess my diction improved 😂
No no no! For me, the beautiful thing about film cameras is that they are mostly mechanical and analog rather than electronic. Probably the closest we have come to this in the digital world is the old Epson RD1, which had analogue arrows and you had to crank a lever to cock the shutter. The digital Ds still feel very digital, because they are electronic.
Coming from someone who predominantly shoots on analogue mediums, I have to admit that this is a refreshing experience. The digital photography space can get very noisy sometimes with the spec race, at the end of the day it is just light passing through a lens and getting captured on a light sensitive plane. How you get that light onto that plane is up to you. You can’t compare drawing on a piece of paper to drawing on an iPad, using either one of those doesn’t make one less of an artist.
Nemsko makes a cameo appearance :D My ONLY fear, is planned obsolesence. I have an M240, and just recently my battery finally died. However, little did i knw, Leica no longer makes the battery, and there are no third party options. This was tremendously traumatizing, knowing that my camera is no longer able to be used. Fortunately, I got lucky after much searching online and found a shop that had some old stock batteries left. Needless to say, I bought them all. Hopefully this will ensure at least 20 more years of use. I certainly hope this won't be the fate of any of the newer Leica M digital cameras down the road.
For those considering purchasing this camera in replace of the original M11, the m11d is not the same spec wise as the m11. With the D you lose out on exposure bracketing (even though it’s mentioned in the tech data sheets), perspective control and any features you get with the screen, such as horizon level, focus peaking, image preview, histogram + many more. As a lucky owner of a M11D it can be a shock realising how many features rely on the screen.
This is very reminiscent of the Moog Voyager "old school" that the most famous (and expensive) synth brand launched some years ago. Just simple electronics, no presets (and no screen of course), except that the synth was fully analogue. I just don't get this camera.
At the end of the day Leica prices is like the prices of a Porsche, new and used it will stay gold value within the years. Someone in the comments said you can buy a $100 film camera that has no lcd, correct but at the same time it’s the brand not the camera. You can buy a cheaper car, upgrade it to be faster than a porche but it doesn’t have the same value. I think with Leica is value over anything else. Yes the M-d lineups are for people who appreciate the no lcd screens and enjoy the old days. If it bothers you so much just buy a Pixii, same no lcd but like 3-5K cheaper which
I guess if you got a camera with a flip screen you could get the same effect by flipping the screen round and turning off image review. This is a great camera, it’s nearly there but I think it needs that iso dial on the left hand side to balance it.
There are still a few (very!) dedicated car enthusiasts driving 100-year-old steam-powered vintage cars round the Goodwood racetrack. But I don't see any driving a 100-year-old car with an electric motor (but would i know?).
That came into mind actually :) but then comparing the amount of assurance I get from a relative new brand to a reputable brand made me conclude on that assessment
This camera was always a weird one to me... The whole ethos of a digital camera is the ability to confirm you got the shot. Hence the screen.... We can live with this success/fail rate shooting film, as that's part of the learning and perfecting your craft. So you're supposed to shoot a digital camera all day, get home and have the potential for a number of missed or bad shots on digital? I know you can view on the Leica app on your phone while shooting in the field, but wouldn't you just rather have a screen on the camera to begin with? Leica doing Porsche things. Slicing the cheese very thin for profit.
Interesting perspective, however If you missed the shot you miss the shot, how would a screen help with that? To help you realize it sooner so we can do something about it and restage the scene? I believe the first digital camera had no screen as well so what was the ethos for that?
Disagree. The primary ethos of a digital camera is to streamline the workflow, enabling a fully digital workflow. The screen on the back is a handy add-on - but certainly not *the* key value proposition of digital cameras.
It is not worth the price. But it IS a well built camera. Sort of like a Patek Philippe watch. Nice watch, but luxury means it is priced well above any fair, "mark up on cost"....but you know that, if/when you purchase one.
The baseplate wasn’t unique to the m10d. It was standard across all digital and film bodies prior to the m11. The film lever on the m10d is definitely gimmicky. I agree with you there.
I see, I am aware that it is standard across all the film cameras as it served a function to keep light out of the film chamber. Didn't realise it was also present in digital cameras prior to the M11, thanks for the clarification.
@@silveranddye or if they would make it feel like advancing film would be also quite satisfying :) I shoot my hassy 50c on 503 body. Winding mirror is it’s own kind of experience :) What I wish leica would do on m12 is to get screen flush with the body as feel of D models in hand is something else again :)
Leica literally is not servicing M6 light meters pre-2001. It's ridiculous. Also, this camera can't realistically be used for photo work, so it might be prudent to at least admit that Leica cameras like this are aimed at people who simply have more money than they know what to do with. Leica quality is there, but branding and consumerism keeps them afloat.
I wholeheartedly agree about your feelings of this being a photographer’s camera instead of a digital camera trying to be a film camera. Nothing can replace my film M, along with my b&w home processing and darkroom. Though the screenless M would be an option if I live to see the dark day that film goes extinct 😬
Honestly, this is a toy for people with a lot of money who want to play at being a photographer. Leica forgot about photographers many years ago unfortunately... I say this as a former M and R user. I make a living from photography, I am a photographer, and I am very sorry about the direction the brand took many years ago.
I think it's already been answered in my comment, the ridiculous price of the products, in contrast to what they offer, only made it clear that the public they decided to respect were not photographers who want to make images, like the legends who transformed this brand into what it was, but people with a lot of money who dedicate themselves more to showing them off or collecting them than to photographing. There may be exceptions, of course, but they are very few. Surely Leica thinks it's right, they may even be doing very well financially, but what they manufacture is an elitist element that has little to do with their roots and much less with an image worker. I'm not trying to make you agree with my humble opinion, but that's what I think. Greetings.
Big part of them doing financially well this year is due to the Leica Q3 and Q3 43 So I guess consumers have spoken with their wallets - give us premium Leica feel with updated tech - lcd, ever, autofocus, a small body with premium lens and feel
Leica had its best year ever on record. Hardly surviving. More like thriving. As well as doing more the cultivate the “thinking” part of photography that most cameras do for us all these days…
I agree on the first part of your comment, but, clearly, Leica is thriving rather than "surviving". The joke is on the customers who believe the very astute marketing pitch rather than on the company who are intelligently exploiting the gold mine. But it is all OK and harmless, and if the believers are happy, good for them!
@@silveranddye I get that it targets the luxury market but the base camera is already more expensive than the X2D. You think you'd get more purists into the Leica system with a cheaper simple camera
It's so weird. This camera makes people lose their minds. People love the -D cameras, build whole careers on them, have good reasons to buy them, etc. But still comments on videos about them are weird little manifestos on consumerism and excess. Bruh, I can spend way more on a hasselblad that does essentially the same thing in the same way, but people ain't mad about that? I think people just bandwagon onto a brand to hate to feel good about themselves. 😅
@@tmbrwn Exactly! It’s interesting how strong feelings about a product (whether love or hate) are still tied to consumerism. At the end of the day, it’s just a tool, but it clearly means something more to some
Like all Leica M cameras since, well, forever (1954), this is a beautiful object, produced with a great degree of respect for brand heritage and attention to detail. However, in 2024, it has very little to do with actual photography. It is a tasteful luxury toy, geared at people loaded/blessed with excessive disposable income. Pretty much like an understated Patek Philippe (rather than a Rolex, which is to me the epitome of gaudy bling). I just watched here a nice kid promoting this 10,000 USD/EUR thwarted electronic device with earnest words and a serious face, paraphrasing the sophisticated manufactured nostalgia of Leica's marketing pitch, while illustrating the discourse with snapshots worthy of carefree smartphone wielding city outings. There is something both sad and endearing to this video. The whole concept of the M11-D makes absolutely no sense to me as a photographer. Not only the screenless gimmick but also the illusion that a 60MP sensor can be consistently focused with precision through the single central patch of a 1950's mechanical rangefinder mechanism requiring impossible to maintain calibration with an infinity of lenses at different stages of wear. I'd love to own one though (or even just to be able to afford one without ruining my family's future). For background: I still own, use and enjoy the M6 I purchased in 1994 but wasted fortunes hoping to replicate the qualitative experience in the digital age (M8, M9, M10). The digital M is a joke, and the more sensor resolution, the more it is flawed. Something to revisit one day when Leica decides to swap the outdated mechanical rangefinder with a properly designed integrated EVF.
@ oh, well, congratulations for your youthful complexion and sincere apologies for my paternalistic tone of voice using that "kid" qualifier. Appearances can be misleading... ;)
What do you mean "it is has very little to do with actual photography", seems an odd comment to me. As to your comment about focusing onto a 60MP sensor using a rangefinder, are you inferring then the modern autofocus cameras achieve focus 100% of the time (they don't)? Personally, I don't want my M digital experience to be the same as my M film experience. With digital, I know that in some ways I'm not really making anything - just some photons that are interpreted on a digital sensor that ends up on my computer. Digital bits. But I like the manual focus and feel of how a digital M feels. And when I'm using film I like the chemical process that is happening and knowing that something physical is being created. And like with my digital M, I like the manual focus and feel of my MA.
Really good video, I enjoyed watching it!!
I went to Leica store here in Porto-Portugal to check on the M11-d and I felt the same way. It's an amazing camera
Thank you for the watch and glad to know I have viewers in Portugal 👋🏼
I really enjoyed your review of the M11-D, and the images look great. Singapore is one of my favourite places to visit. I was there a couple of months ago and purchased an M11-P while there. Happy days.
Thank you and appreciate your comments 🙏
The M11-D is fantastic... and with the firmware/app update from Leica launched today the camera is even that much more functional. Technically, it is different than the M11-P with a different top plate and body parts.
Any idea what are the updates? I returned the camera before the updates
@@silveranddye Can now format the M11's from the app, can now apply Leica Look jpeg treatments to M11 and AFTER the shot. Also can transfer web sized images via Bluetooth to app in the background (and very low energy consumption), making the ability to share/post pics to social media much easier. All very good improvements.
I like your way of narration, it seems very natural with the pauses (I assume you didn't memorize your script, if any). Also, you have beautiful eyes.
Thank you for the watch. I do have a rough outline of what I want to talk about so that I don’t go off track coupled with some facts on hand if necessary. Maybe in future a word for word script would have saved me time on editing 😅
but... how do you adjust the settings (timer, ev. comp.), or format the card?, does everything in setup menus reside in a phone app?, or require a tethered connection.
Yes through the app, I didn’t use an SD card tho, but I reckon you could format the SD card using your desktop when you import the images. As for the other functions, I don’t usually meddle with those alot, the only decision I make is what film I am shooting, what aperture and what shutter speed and for the case of the M11-D all those functions are physical dials I could adjust either on the camera or on the lens.
@@silveranddye I asked about the card, as most makers specify you format on the device you use, as computers use ntsc or fat 32 and some cameras like a specific folder (DCIM) to file under, the camera format process re-does this file system on format, the computer one leaves the disk empty; also the flash and white balance are important controls in digital, as well as focus point, box type, even button assignments, etc. Hasselblad did this on their H1's initially (i-xpress backs)- these also where screenless, using a separate hard drive, similar to the 'imagers' used on telescopes, just a sensor pack, all else on cable connection, set in Flexcolor, tethered up.
@@andyvan5692 I see, now do you believe me when I claimed to be not as tech savvy?
Very light hearted video, i enjoyed viewing it
Glad you enjoyed it
M10D has been my day to day carry in the last 3-4 years even though I do have all the other LCD enabled Ms, CL, Qs, SL2S, etc. I have 8 various Leica Digital Cameras, if I were asked to keep only one, it is no branier for me to keep M10D. Not sure I would upgrade/move to M11D but my M10D has been such great Delight and help me being a Dedicated, Disciplined, & Desivie photograher without being Distracted, Dysfunctional and spent uncessary energy Detect photos over LCDs and missed next best shot. This camera cares intrisic value creation, if you cares about other functional requirments, there are plenty other great options too. M10D/M11D is great for photograhers with certain mindset that certainly is not a popular one. This is such a niche camera, few people own this camera would ever sell/release it, that is why it is quite difficult to find one at 2nd hand market. I was lucky to find one with a great 2nd hand price. I will see if I ever to meet M11D in the 2nd market…
The iso dial is functional for the light meter on analogue cameras too, those that have it. Not just a reminder of the film in it.
Great review.
Yes I realised it while I was editing especially when I am using the M6 as an example lol, what I meant to say was originally the dial was meant as a reminder but thanks for pointing it out
Finally photography is back! Well done leica for typically bucking the trend and keeping it out of the way of amateur auditors who just won’t get it.
I simply burst out laughing on reading this comment. 😆😆😆
Thanks for the watch and comment
Great video, well done, thank you!
Thank you too!
Really good video! For what it's worth, it would have been nice to see more of your photographs sprinkled throughout the video. Also, your English is definitely good enough that you probably don't need to add subtitles if you don't want to go through the effort. They're not bad or distracting, but they're also not necessary in my opinion.
Thank you for the constructive advice 🙏 I actually added the hardcoded subtitles in as I was told previously that I needed them. I guess my diction improved 😂
@@silveranddye lol of course someone else said the exact opposite of what I said! Creative decisions can never be easy can they?
No no no! For me, the beautiful thing about film cameras is that they are mostly mechanical and analog rather than electronic. Probably the closest we have come to this in the digital world is the old Epson RD1, which had analogue arrows and you had to crank a lever to cock the shutter. The digital Ds still feel very digital, because they are electronic.
Coming from someone who predominantly shoots on analogue mediums, I have to admit that this is a refreshing experience. The digital photography space can get very noisy sometimes with the spec race, at the end of the day it is just light passing through a lens and getting captured on a light sensitive plane. How you get that light onto that plane is up to you. You can’t compare drawing on a piece of paper to drawing on an iPad, using either one of those doesn’t make one less of an artist.
Nemsko makes a cameo appearance :D
My ONLY fear, is planned obsolesence. I have an M240, and just recently my battery finally died. However, little did i knw, Leica no longer makes the battery, and there are no third party options. This was tremendously traumatizing, knowing that my camera is no longer able to be used.
Fortunately, I got lucky after much searching online and found a shop that had some old stock batteries left. Needless to say, I bought them all. Hopefully this will ensure at least 20 more years of use.
I certainly hope this won't be the fate of any of the newer Leica M digital cameras down the road.
Oh gosh this is an important point indeed
For those considering purchasing this camera in replace of the original M11, the m11d is not the same spec wise as the m11.
With the D you lose out on exposure bracketing (even though it’s mentioned in the tech data sheets), perspective control and any features you get with the screen, such as horizon level, focus peaking, image preview, histogram + many more.
As a lucky owner of a M11D it can be a shock realising how many features rely on the screen.
All of these can be mitigated by attaching a Visoflex 2 onto the M11-D
@@ilyamiskov if only this was true
Is it the same spec wise with the M11-P? That was my point of reference
This is very reminiscent of the Moog Voyager "old school" that the most famous (and expensive) synth brand launched some years ago. Just simple electronics, no presets (and no screen of course), except that the synth was fully analogue. I just don't get this camera.
How about the technics SL-DZ1200
Great job
@@camerafusion thanks for the watch and encouragement 🙏
Oh! Was that miss Nemo, the great chess lady?
PS! Great review of a nice camera. I would like one.
Yes it is 😊
At the end of the day Leica prices is like the prices of a Porsche, new and used it will stay gold value within the years. Someone in the comments said you can buy a $100 film camera that has no lcd, correct but at the same time it’s the brand not the camera. You can buy a cheaper car, upgrade it to be faster than a porche but it doesn’t have the same value. I think with Leica is value over anything else. Yes the M-d lineups are for people who appreciate the no lcd screens and enjoy the old days. If it bothers you so much just buy a Pixii, same no lcd but like 3-5K cheaper which
I guess if you got a camera with a flip screen you could get the same effect by flipping the screen round and turning off image review. This is a great camera, it’s nearly there but I think it needs that iso dial on the left hand side to balance it.
Do you mean balance the look? Maybe I am not used to adjusting the ISO on the fly
Yes just because it feels like there is something missing from there.
There are still a few (very!) dedicated car enthusiasts driving 100-year-old steam-powered vintage cars round the Goodwood racetrack.
But I don't see any driving a 100-year-old car with an electric motor (but would i know?).
The DeLorean from BTTF maybe?
Their thought process was "oh, pixii is beating us at our own game."
That came into mind actually :) but then comparing the amount of assurance I get from a relative new brand to a reputable brand made me conclude on that assessment
This is the 4th screen-less M camera they've released. I don't think Leica cares much about the Pixii.
I use a dxo one in similar way.
Personally, I would prefer to have a Pixii. It has the photographer's aesthetic, while being more innovative.
Interesting consideration
This camera was always a weird one to me... The whole ethos of a digital camera is the ability to confirm you got the shot. Hence the screen.... We can live with this success/fail rate shooting film, as that's part of the learning and perfecting your craft. So you're supposed to shoot a digital camera all day, get home and have the potential for a number of missed or bad shots on digital? I know you can view on the Leica app on your phone while shooting in the field, but wouldn't you just rather have a screen on the camera to begin with?
Leica doing Porsche things. Slicing the cheese very thin for profit.
Interesting perspective, however If you missed the shot you miss the shot, how would a screen help with that? To help you realize it sooner so we can do something about it and restage the scene? I believe the first digital camera had no screen as well so what was the ethos for that?
Disagree. The primary ethos of a digital camera is to streamline the workflow, enabling a fully digital workflow. The screen on the back is a handy add-on - but certainly not *the* key value proposition of digital cameras.
There is also the predecessor of the m10d, the m-d 262. Also without the gimmicks. Just like the m11 d.
Interesting, again I am not fluent in digital cameras but I am glad they got back on the right path
It is not worth the price. But it IS a well built camera. Sort of like a Patek Philippe watch. Nice watch, but luxury means it is priced well above any fair, "mark up on cost"....but you know that, if/when you purchase one.
It’s costly yes, not expensive
Leica “D” versions keep their value for some reason despite all the criticisms I read so far.
That’s food for thought
Oh I get it pay more and get less , I have a M10 and M11 normal
Maybe less is more?
The baseplate wasn’t unique to the m10d. It was standard across all digital and film bodies prior to the m11. The film lever on the m10d is definitely gimmicky. I agree with you there.
I see, I am aware that it is standard across all the film cameras as it served a function to keep light out of the film chamber. Didn't realise it was also present in digital cameras prior to the M11, thanks for the clarification.
not a gimmick but a very useful thumbgrip :) I would love to have it on all m cameras :)
@@blazeboy777 you know what that actually makes sense I do catch myself trying to advance the lever some times while using the camera
@@silveranddye or if they would make it feel like advancing film would be also quite satisfying :) I shoot my hassy 50c on 503 body. Winding mirror is it’s own kind of experience :) What I wish leica would do on m12 is to get screen flush with the body as feel of D models in hand is something else again :)
Leica literally is not servicing M6 light meters pre-2001. It's ridiculous.
Also, this camera can't realistically be used for photo work, so it might be prudent to at least admit that Leica cameras like this are aimed at people who simply have more money than they know what to do with. Leica quality is there, but branding and consumerism keeps them afloat.
Sigh I guess my photos didn’t do it much justice, holding a vlogging camera and trying to shoot street shots is harder than I thought
What is Leica thinking? Sell more cameras? If so mission accomplished
Maybe it could be to sell less cameras at a higher price premium, It is a luxury brand for sure
@@silveranddye Ok that works - Either way they are often sold out before you can get one
I wholeheartedly agree about your feelings of this being a photographer’s camera instead of a digital camera trying to be a film camera. Nothing can replace my film M, along with my b&w home processing and darkroom. Though the screenless M would be an option if I live to see the dark day that film goes extinct 😬
It’s refreshing once in a while to try something new, thank you for the watch and comment 🙏
Honestly, this is a toy for people with a lot of money who want to play at being a photographer. Leica forgot about photographers many years ago unfortunately... I say this as a former M and R user. I make a living from photography, I am a photographer, and I am very sorry about the direction the brand took many years ago.
@@gcherro could you specify on that direction the brand took many years ago? What was it and when did it happen?
I think it's already been answered in my comment, the ridiculous price of the products, in contrast to what they offer, only made it clear that the public they decided to respect were not photographers who want to make images, like the legends who transformed this brand into what it was, but people with a lot of money who dedicate themselves more to showing them off or collecting them than to photographing. There may be exceptions, of course, but they are very few. Surely Leica thinks it's right, they may even be doing very well financially, but what they manufacture is an elitist element that has little to do with their roots and much less with an image worker. I'm not trying to make you agree with my humble opinion, but that's what I think. Greetings.
Big part of them doing financially well this year is due to the Leica Q3 and Q3 43
So I guess consumers have spoken with their wallets - give us premium Leica feel with updated tech - lcd, ever, autofocus, a small body with premium lens and feel
Paying 10k dollars do have the experience of a 100 dollar film camera. Leica is solely surviving on its name at this point.
Not so. Apart from ourselves we know lots of Pros who use Leica alongside their other cameras
Leica had its best year ever on record. Hardly surviving. More like thriving. As well as doing more the cultivate the “thinking” part of photography that most cameras do for us all these days…
I agree on the first part of your comment, but, clearly, Leica is thriving rather than "surviving". The joke is on the customers who believe the very astute marketing pitch rather than on the company who are intelligently exploiting the gold mine. But it is all OK and harmless, and if the believers are happy, good for them!
That’s the real trap of shooting film, cheap cameras but expensive film lol
I'd buy one; if it were 3k
I'm not a dentist. So...
Very random consideration
It's stupid to charge more for this camera.
It definitely does not conform to rational pricing norms
@@silveranddye I get that it targets the luxury market but the base camera is already more expensive than the X2D. You think you'd get more purists into the Leica system with a cheaper simple camera
It's so weird. This camera makes people lose their minds. People love the -D cameras, build whole careers on them, have good reasons to buy them, etc. But still comments on videos about them are weird little manifestos on consumerism and excess. Bruh, I can spend way more on a hasselblad that does essentially the same thing in the same way, but people ain't mad about that? I think people just bandwagon onto a brand to hate to feel good about themselves. 😅
@@tmbrwn Exactly! It’s interesting how strong feelings about a product (whether love or hate) are still tied to consumerism. At the end of the day, it’s just a tool, but it clearly means something more to some
Like all Leica M cameras since, well, forever (1954), this is a beautiful object, produced with a great degree of respect for brand heritage and attention to detail. However, in 2024, it has very little to do with actual photography. It is a tasteful luxury toy, geared at people loaded/blessed with excessive disposable income. Pretty much like an understated Patek Philippe (rather than a Rolex, which is to me the epitome of gaudy bling). I just watched here a nice kid promoting this 10,000 USD/EUR thwarted electronic device with earnest words and a serious face, paraphrasing the sophisticated manufactured nostalgia of Leica's marketing pitch, while illustrating the discourse with snapshots worthy of carefree smartphone wielding city outings. There is something both sad and endearing to this video. The whole concept of the M11-D makes absolutely no sense to me as a photographer. Not only the screenless gimmick but also the illusion that a 60MP sensor can be consistently focused with precision through the single central patch of a 1950's mechanical rangefinder mechanism requiring impossible to maintain calibration with an infinity of lenses at different stages of wear. I'd love to own one though (or even just to be able to afford one without ruining my family's future). For background: I still own, use and enjoy the M6 I purchased in 1994 but wasted fortunes hoping to replicate the qualitative experience in the digital age (M8, M9, M10). The digital M is a joke, and the more sensor resolution, the more it is flawed. Something to revisit one day when Leica decides to swap the outdated mechanical rangefinder with a properly designed integrated EVF.
Thank you for your honest opinion, I hope the “kid” you are referring to is me cos I will be flattered. I am 43 for the record
@ oh, well, congratulations for your youthful complexion and sincere apologies for my paternalistic tone of voice using that "kid" qualifier. Appearances can be misleading... ;)
@@brusselssprout1 all good, I aim to keep on improving and I look forward to your constructive criticism
What do you mean "it is has very little to do with actual photography", seems an odd comment to me. As to your comment about focusing onto a 60MP sensor using a rangefinder, are you inferring then the modern autofocus cameras achieve focus 100% of the time (they don't)? Personally, I don't want my M digital experience to be the same as my M film experience. With digital, I know that in some ways I'm not really making anything - just some photons that are interpreted on a digital sensor that ends up on my computer. Digital bits. But I like the manual focus and feel of how a digital M feels. And when I'm using film I like the chemical process that is happening and knowing that something physical is being created. And like with my digital M, I like the manual focus and feel of my MA.
Most amazing and accurate comment ever my friend .