WOKENESS: THE NEW WESTERN MORALITY | DOUGLAS MURRAY

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  • The singular journalist and writer Douglas Murray talks to John about the glaring problems with the new forms of 'morality' that are being held with increasing fervour around the Western world.
    Their fascinating and wide-ranging discussion can be found in full here: • The Madness of Crowds ...
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  • @K9_Shepard
    @K9_Shepard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1060

    1929: "I hope my family will have food on the dinner table tonight"
    2020: "I hope no one misgenders me today."
    If people don't have problems, they invent them.

    • @Helios601
      @Helios601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's much worse, your just being played by the cabal....and folk are too stupid to see through it.

    • @lucasley20
      @lucasley20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly 💯

    • @Scoring57
      @Scoring57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arathyl 999
      Sure people worried about food, but they obviously didn't also worry about insults or being socially attacked in anyway. And I bet only transgender people worry about core parts of their identity being attacked in the modern age.

    • @comitatus5337
      @comitatus5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      very good observation , the result of this for the west will be conquest by nations who don't care about this sh.t!

    • @itsthehawke
      @itsthehawke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i say this all the time, people got too comfortable and soft

  • @captainchokdee1039
    @captainchokdee1039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +583

    Thank god we have people like you right now Douglas Murray.

    • @thomassutton5516
      @thomassutton5516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      you clearly have not understood this video and im guessing you probably have not watched much if any of his other material

    • @tabcomp5146
      @tabcomp5146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @jeremy Lyons he says dumb things in incredibly convoluted ways and the sheep fall on knees- , thinking he has uttered something divine and profound ....sorry to the real sheep

    • @chrisb8075
      @chrisb8075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tabcomp5146 your personal agenda seems to be preventing you from objectively hearing what he's saying. Far from trying to be clever, he's aiming for simplicity in illustrating the point that the more we focus on the differences, and see those differences as bad, the more divided we become. Conversely when we accept a broad spectrum of races, gender specific behaviours and views, society actually functions better because we recognize the variety we bring and how we fit together.

    • @c3cubed
      @c3cubed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @J M ... I think his grey matter is sparking confusion, as 'tab' is of the thought "Ben Affleck" as an intellectual giant.

    • @quintonbroster2994
      @quintonbroster2994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tabcomp5146 yet here you are hanging on his every word

  • @davidjefferis4467
    @davidjefferis4467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +968

    Wokery = too many people with too little to worry about.

    • @malvolio01
      @malvolio01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe they need something to worry about? 😉

    • @JohnSmith-hs1hn
      @JohnSmith-hs1hn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Being against racism is wrong? lol, oh well, guess I'm a postmodernist, then.

    • @davidjefferis4467
      @davidjefferis4467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JohnSmith-hs1hn I'm with Martin Luther King Jr.

    • @JohnSmith-hs1hn
      @JohnSmith-hs1hn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidjefferis4467 Mlk was a postmodernist because he fought against racism and racism has been normal for most of human history(still is).

    • @JohnSmith-hs1hn
      @JohnSmith-hs1hn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Vladimir Vcelar is anti racism not apart of wokery? It is. Given that, op.is.implying that anti racism is bad.

  • @Hammo1971
    @Hammo1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    Douglas Murray is a true intellectual mind, who speaks so much common sense...

    • @goji059
      @goji059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If i was gay, I'd be all over him....just sayin

    • @alice5515
      @alice5515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stewart MacLean I’m a straight woman and I’ve had dreams 😆 To be fair I went to sleep listening to his audiobook

    • @Calango741
      @Calango741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You mean he speaks so much sense that unfortunately has become very uncommon…
      Common sense, as it used to exist, does not exist anymore.

    • @oldman2800
      @oldman2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The new "subjective" morality

    • @Celticcross688
      @Celticcross688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stewart MacLean Well I say!

  • @alice5515
    @alice5515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Douglas Murray has singlehandedly kept me sane throughout quarantine

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The De-Emasculiation is ever going on, hence why people call this the 'M-She-U'. Strong, empowering Characters dont exist per se, Writers just lower all other Characters so their Female Characters are Strong in Comparison. We have a giant Representation-Problem, it's just not what the Woke think it is. It's objectively them who cause it, creating objectively bad Content Wave after Wave - Content that minority groups just do not feel represented by. Ever.

  • @gavinmillar7519
    @gavinmillar7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Douglas Murray - a man very thoughtful and a breath of fresh air.

  • @malicant123
    @malicant123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why does this gentleman make so much sense? The answer is because he's speaking the truth.

    • @tcrown3333
      @tcrown3333 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he does talk a lot of sense. I was intrigued by your avatar and clicked on it. Now I'm addicted to Steve Vai!!!! Is there a cure?!!

    • @simongleaden2864
      @simongleaden2864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, he's right about most things.

  • @robynhefferan9561
    @robynhefferan9561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love Douglas Murray’s mind, his voice and the way he expresses himself. His person is pleasant to look at, too.

  • @manonymous4737
    @manonymous4737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    It’s the word “community”. That is the problem. As soon as everyone started using that word to describe people with similar characteristics, it implies that they had the same thoughts and values, and everything flowed from that

    • @mehcol
      @mehcol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes.

    • @brynleytalbot778
      @brynleytalbot778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Creating "communities" with shared values replaced embracing community with differing lifestyles. It's largely the gentrification of cities and some towns into a "London centric" ideal to accommodate the Southerners ideals of community facilities whilst destroying the quaint traditional character that drew them in the first instance. I've seen Leeds decimated by London bankers who in the 2008/09 crash finally left allowing some return to Yorkshire cultural values. Sadly the city has once again fallen to their "wants". Kirkgate Market was refurbished to its former Victorian splendour, a good omen, you'd think, then increased the rent driving the diversity out and ruining it. Coffee shops proliferate but few places of true cross generational diversity exist thus driving older generations, an inconvenient eyesore to gentrification modernity, out. Middle classes thus dominate once vibrant cities defining them as their entertainment and shopping environments. It's a sad reflection of the woke culture.

    • @garou136
      @garou136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Precisely. And everyone followed the script.

    • @rogeralsop3479
      @rogeralsop3479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you're right.

    • @inevski
      @inevski 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brynleytalbot778 good description, except perhaps, a sad reflection of materialistic culture.

  • @CountArtha
    @CountArtha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    4:37 _"This new morality we are trying to construct relies on us pretending we know about things that we don't know about ... and simultaneously demands that we pretend not to know about things that we all knew till yesterday."_
    That is one for the history books, right there.

  • @spacedinosaur8733
    @spacedinosaur8733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    “Things are not as they seem. They are what they are.” ― Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time

    • @lovetolovefairytales
      @lovetolovefairytales 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gosh I love Terry. His quotes suit everything. Also Good Omens and Colour of Magic are awesome.

    • @m12652
      @m12652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting times indeed

    • @thecuttingsark5094
      @thecuttingsark5094 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favourite ‘A man whose position in society greatly outweighed his intellect’

    • @m12652
      @m12652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      clean brush you star!

    • @spacedinosaur8733
      @spacedinosaur8733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @clean brush
      "Sometimes it is better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness."- Terry Pratchett

  • @mickbrenton
    @mickbrenton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Douglas is definitely one of the sharpest conservative political/social commentators around today!!! Good score John!!!

  • @TheDajoca
    @TheDajoca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Douglas Murray is a truly excellent speaker. He is always a pleasure to listen to, along with Jordan Peterson.
    I have 100% certainty that marxism is more dangerous to the world than the wuflu.

  • @curlew-3592
    @curlew-3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The trouble with all this ‘wokeness’ is that it makes people become so narrow in their thinking. In order to have a broad and thoughtful attitude as one goes through life, one has to listen to many different points of view and gradually mature into your own confident and well informed opinions. I think the biggest problem with the ‘woke’ way of thinking is that it is so childlike and lacking in the ability to be confident in ones own opinions.

    • @hyperglobal01
      @hyperglobal01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly. Because the people who espouse these views are adults that haven't properly grown up. 'Kidults' in other words.

    • @doitnowinaminute
      @doitnowinaminute ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i really dislkike the way those 'woke' cannot accept two conflicting facts can exist in the same space.

  • @bencorley8687
    @bencorley8687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr. Murray is a world class mind. Thank you for sharing John.

  • @PaulBoudreau14
    @PaulBoudreau14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's always refreshing to witness intelligence coupled with wisdom!

  • @jmeditation
    @jmeditation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is probably the 5th time I’ve watched this clip. I am just know starting to understand how deeply profound Douglas Murray is in what he is discussing here. Just added the book The Madness of Crowds to the top of my reading list.

  • @lluisbosch2807
    @lluisbosch2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you, John Anderson, for bringing Murray in often for your insightful interviews. And thank you, Douglas Murray for sharing with us your thoughts and also your astounding and (apparently) spontaneous dominion of the Emglish language... listening to you is witnessing pure beauty

  • @jinzo1171
    @jinzo1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this man is a similar character to my father, gay, and yet very grounded and logical, without belonging to a masonic LGBT lodge.
    I am grateful for the way he raised me.

  • @lluisbosch2807
    @lluisbosch2807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent Douglas Murray, as always. Mind piercing into the crux of the moment and the matter, verb expressing such perception with extraordinary ability

  • @kate4885
    @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Omg! Douglas says exactley as it is!! He makes me laugh, because he hits the nail on the head... We are ONE community, the human race community... By separating communities, we are causing divide..... Love this guy! We need to just realise whatever 'community' we belong to.... We all have rights, human rights, no need to complicate things by dividing rights into lots of communities, we are more alike than different, same species, but all feel hurt, pain, pride, etc as each other, we are ONE community, human beings!!

    • @robertely686
      @robertely686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that why he continually divides people between left and right, and uses scare words like Marxism all the time?

    • @kate4885
      @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There clearly is a divide of opinions, beliefs etc in all aspects of politics and life, but they are not called the Left community and the Right community. We are ONE community of human beings with different ideas, beliefs etc

    • @paintsilj
      @paintsilj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kate4885 not really. A community is a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common.... and the condition of sharing or having certain attitudes and interests in common.... a human in Greenland is going to have quite different attitudes and interests to a human in DR Congo.

    • @IndigoDisco
      @IndigoDisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kate4885 That would be centrists.

    • @kate4885
      @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paintsilj I do take your point. We all live in the same place, earth, we have lots in common, we're human beings and believe that as ONE worldwide community, we should all have the same rights, treatment etc. Not rights divided into separate 'communities'.

  • @criticalobserver5720
    @criticalobserver5720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Science is a challenge , as is logic. Virtue signaling is easy but boring beyond belief. And destructive.

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The underlying issue is identity politics, surely. The previous morality was open to anyone to adopt, regardless of their gender, race or sexual orientation. Now you have to be a member of one or more of these groups to be truly virtuous. Martin Luther King would be horrified.

    • @worldpeace8299
      @worldpeace8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Calling it Virtue signalling, rather than standing up for people who are being discriminated against - which is usually the reality of what we are talking about - is not good use of logic. Unless you are trying to pull the wool over someone's eyes. And standing up for vulnerable people is so fucking moral it blows my mind that anyone would really believe anything else. Unless they were bigots or sell outs, of course. Which is very destructive.

    • @worldpeace8299
      @worldpeace8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@catinthehat906 MLK would have been in full support of most "woke" movements today. Not only was he the archetypal SJW, he was vilified in the same way the modern movement is today.

    • @catinthehat906
      @catinthehat906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

  • @paulbriody297
    @paulbriody297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent conversation! Douglas has touched it with a pin!

  • @jemc4276
    @jemc4276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I for one absolutely love this channel.

  • @Diana-sm6vr
    @Diana-sm6vr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this site and these interviews. Thanks so much.

  • @TheWonderingEnglishman
    @TheWonderingEnglishman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Douglas Murray is the leader we need

  • @sjohn1258
    @sjohn1258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr Murray thank you

  • @peterwestcott3475
    @peterwestcott3475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I could listen to Douglas Murray all day (and all night).

  • @mda037
    @mda037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Douglas Murray is a very important figure for the balance of logic in the face of emotional reactionaries. I think he would agree that balance between the two is very important.

  • @goldie862
    @goldie862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The Left: "You're a racist!"
    Me: yaaawwwn

    • @bigboy9693
      @bigboy9693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Jack Carbine Wear it with pride as the person that calls you that is the racist.

    • @worldpeace8299
      @worldpeace8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ill take that as a yes.

    • @motorax11
      @motorax11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dislike everyone equally until proven otherwise.

    • @user-kb1hw2yq2f
      @user-kb1hw2yq2f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Serious question: What does it say about white people who call other white people racist"? Do they do it because of true sympathy, which I think not, virtue signaling OR do they do it because they want to fit into as many other categories besides a typical "white person"? What about black people who call white people racist? Is that not the same type of stereotype that we're told not to use against black people?

    • @samuellourenco1050
      @samuellourenco1050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everyone is racist to them except them, ironically, because they are the ones perpetrating actual racism.

  • @NeilAFawcett
    @NeilAFawcett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When will we see this sort of debate on the BBC?

  • @kronk358
    @kronk358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep it up Douglas! We need more voices of reason like your's!

  • @CarterRoser
    @CarterRoser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One of the wisest people on the planet

  • @randaru1527
    @randaru1527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    In all civilized religious cultures' teachings I know about, there's always something that goes along the lines of "keep your prayers between yourself and your god".
    It loosely means that in order to be a good person in society, you have to be virtuous for yourself, and not to get rewarded for being virtuous.
    Good people are perceived by good deeds they don't advertise. Meanwhile, awful people do good deeds only to convince everyone around them (and themselves, if they have any sign of conscience left in them) that they are good, as a mean to create a facade to cover their wrongdoings behind. This is why a lot, if not most, of male "girlpowa movement followers" turn out to be abusers, female (or minority) equality advocates play victim card to keep and expand their privileges, and actual good and sane people face mob justice and cancellation from people who otherwise could not compete with a living example of what true virtue looks like.

    • @sherryb3004
      @sherryb3004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Randaru it seems to me that these people are searching for a cause and meaning greater than themselves, to fill that God-sized hole in their heart. Instead of turning to God, they have founded a new religion, one in which they are always both the martyr and the savior. They, rather than God, are the ones who are all-knowing, righteous, just, and loving. They are the way, and their way is narrow. They alone determine what, if anything, can save the rest of us. The rituals, prayers, and good deeds required are determined by them and can change moment to moment.
      They have placed themselves in the role of god. The self love, and self worship in these movements is so blatant.....yet so few seem to see it.

    • @ClergetMusic
      @ClergetMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those that do practice their virtue loudly and publicly to get attention for it are called Pharisees.

    • @musicalfringe
      @musicalfringe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is something Jordan Peterson pointed out too. "Don't pray in public" is how he put it.

  • @davepartridge4383
    @davepartridge4383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent interview John anderson. Please keep up the great work. In this increasingly intellectually sterile world these conversations are a beacon of light

  • @TheAngelOfDeath01
    @TheAngelOfDeath01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give this man, Mr. Anderson a medal; profoundly and justly. Give the man a medal. Because that there is the head on the proverbial nail!

  • @mic9check
    @mic9check 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Sex, Gender and Race. Three properties some use as tools to protect themselves from difficult conversations.

    • @delchavez
      @delchavez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You forgot sexual orientation.

    • @inevski
      @inevski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The difficult conversations Murray's stans don't want to have because wokeness.

  • @kccox8516
    @kccox8516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Country's should rise above the shaming and focus energy on improving life for people within borders! Borders serve the same purpose as wall's and gates around homes and property for safety, privacy, and control who comes and goes!

  • @ulrikev1175
    @ulrikev1175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love listening to Douglas Murray

  • @missie504
    @missie504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this

  • @4Stanzas
    @4Stanzas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    A: "The climate is changing!"
    B: "Really? That's interesting."
    A: "And the way to solve this problem is by imposing worldwide Socialism!"
    B: "Really? What a happy coincidence!"

    • @massemiable
      @massemiable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      One of the reasons that so many green movements are also socialist movements are because so much of the rights response to CO2 levels affecting our climate in a negative way was to say "It's a hoax". If you choose to leave the conversation, don't be suprised that all the solutions comes from the other side.

    • @4Stanzas
      @4Stanzas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@massemiable Socialism is a solution - the only one that ever comes from "the other side".
      To dismiss something is not the same as leaving the conversation. As for that conversation, plenty have lost their jobs over the decades for daring to converse without agreement. Typical of the socialist religion and the purging of their church.

    • @Amsterdamned33
      @Amsterdamned33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Socialism is a race towards the lowest common denominator (consumption/production wise).
      Which happens to be an important way of you know, reducing our polluting outputs. So in a way not at all intended by its advocates, the climate change movement is on to a solution here :p

    • @massemiable
      @massemiable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@4Stanzas Don't quite follow you here..
      Rising Co2 levels are affecting our climate in a negative way. If you dismiss that, then you have effectively left the conversation.
      If you are not a socialist, and you have no proposed solution to the adverse effects of rising co2 levels because you dismiss it, then naturally all the proposed solutions would come from socialist.
      Now, that statement is not completely correct as there are capitalists, conservatives, and people on the right like me that does take climate change seriously and there are some proposed solutions from non socialist. Like cap and trade to incentivize business to reduce Co2 emissions and investments into renewable energy.
      My point still stands though. If you dismiss a problem then those that does not dismiss it will be the ones that proposes solutions, and the left generally has in fairness never dismissed the problem.

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@massemiable I am a virulent environmentalist and it pains me when Greens overstep into some sort of Social Justice realm. So-called 'environmental justice' is not environmentalism, it is narcissism and self-interest masquerading as environmentalism, and it is very easy to see where those priorities collide.

  • @ronniescott5179
    @ronniescott5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Christianity has faded leaving a vacuum.
    People need a framework to live within and are now searching for this .
    The vocal ones are now trying to get the lime light by announcing a new morality of their making.
    Over time a variety of strange ideas will come and go possibly a return to Christianity may end this search

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity was subverted and destroyed, it didn't "fade".

  • @Uzbug
    @Uzbug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm very glad I came across this fellow and his talks. Very thought provoking.

  • @jeffburrow2632
    @jeffburrow2632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need to see and hear people like Douglas Murray.

  • @judypaulsel9646
    @judypaulsel9646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Douglas Murray is IMO one of the most brilliant and wonderful men today. His love of reason and freedom gives me hope - but just a little bit to be honest. So much madness everywhere !

  • @Salamanderpl
    @Salamanderpl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Watermelon Greens - green on outside but red beneath skin.

    • @Diana-sm6vr
      @Diana-sm6vr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you make that up? Very clever!

    • @dborgeri2116
      @dborgeri2116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and brown cores

    • @themissinfowar6629
      @themissinfowar6629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas Sowell said this I believe.

    • @chrishall8636
      @chrishall8636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The green Khmers is what I call them too

    • @iainfalconer4674
      @iainfalconer4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t heard that before. Nice one !

  • @thehobbyfam
    @thehobbyfam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So good! One of the best clips on this topic, for sure.

  • @angelo7217
    @angelo7217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent book. Thank you Douglas

  • @genderstudiesreview5012
    @genderstudiesreview5012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I think that LGBT should include plumbers to be truely inclusive. Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Plumbers ie LGBTP

    • @ozanoutcast
      @ozanoutcast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Funny😅

    • @chrisneedham5803
      @chrisneedham5803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      You bigot ...... you haven't included bricklayers

    • @claudiafahey1353
      @claudiafahey1353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Dont forget carpenters

    • @Dr_KAP
      @Dr_KAP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And plumbers cracks :)

    • @jamesflynn4741
      @jamesflynn4741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I identify as Plumber Fluid

  • @winstonwins1096
    @winstonwins1096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The "new morality" that's seen by most regular people as the empty platitude that it is.

    • @ruthacheson8604
      @ruthacheson8604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I imagine that like myself you’re over 35...the bigger problem is the under-35s, many of whom have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

  • @lostinsweden5039
    @lostinsweden5039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this. Douglas Murray is one of the pre-eminent voices of sanity in our time.

    • @benharris3801
      @benharris3801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the few blessings of social media has been the rise of a handful of worthy social commentators with very vast backgrounds. The likes of
      Douglas Murray
      Jordan Peterson
      Ben Shapiro
      Joe Rogan
      And even Russell Brand (he is ridiculously intelligent and articulate)

  • @kimellmer8372
    @kimellmer8372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful Interview!

  • @finestcitycycling621
    @finestcitycycling621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    >Opens TH-cam App for the first time of the day
    >Sees new Douglas Murray clip
    “Today will be a good day”

  • @kate4885
    @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can you imagine if we sorted us all out into communities.... Blue eyed community, brown eyed community, green eyed community, blonde community, brunette community etc and all the sub communities, volvo community, vw community, skoda community... Life is too short to communitise everybody.... Complete waste of time, energy and the ability to chill and enjoy your ONE and only life as an individual and not as a 'community' only the human race 'community'.

    • @paulstevenson200
      @paulstevenson200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love it.

    • @christopherfarey3291
      @christopherfarey3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/nya95kdeSy4/w-d-xo.html

    • @kate4885
      @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jeremy Lyons Good point. Just simply meant that we are a community, a worldwide community. We can all choose to create communities for ourselves, not being categorised into a community we didn't choose. My opinions are not political, just believe as people on the same planet, however we choose to identify ourselves, we have more in common than not. Maybe a simplistic opinion but fed up of seeing so much divide on our planet.

    • @kate4885
      @kate4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jeremy Lyons Not promoting Liberal individualism, not promoting anything. Just having an opinion, listening to different takes on the subject and learning

  • @200gregg
    @200gregg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Douglas is always worth listening to , such a smart, thinking man

  • @BBCEmily
    @BBCEmily 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video. Thank you so much. Going to purchase that book!

  • @denali9643
    @denali9643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It’s like William F. Buckley and Jordan Peterson had a baby.

    • @wilyinfidel1091
      @wilyinfidel1091 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Denali: wonderful observation .

  • @iainfalconer4674
    @iainfalconer4674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    I’m heterosexual. Why haven’t I got a community?

    • @eternalism8274
      @eternalism8274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      the Oppressors Community

    • @robertely686
      @robertely686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You have. It's called the establishment

    • @delchavez
      @delchavez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Because you went to bed one night and woke up the next day in a world where you are now the GREAT SATAAAAAAAN!!! Good job.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      robert ely - The establishment? That’s a biggy. “Normies” are increasingly becoming marginalised by the organisations like the BBC, which is about as “establishment” as it gets.
      If you’re not a twin-spirit paraplegic with an amputee fetish you won’t get hired there any more. The UK is still about 80% Anglo-Saxon and 98% straight but you certainly wouldn’t guess that when watching the news or indeed any recent BBC programme. I also enjoy playing spot the conventional nuclear family in the ad breaks (on ITV and C4, of course).

    • @robertely686
      @robertely686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sirrathersplendid4825 I think that this gender issue is pretty baseless and used as a divide and conquer tool. I agree there are bizarre levels of trans people on tv compared to their population and this is not right, however I don't think any of them actually get into positions of power. I think they are being used.
      Whilst being gay, black, trans or a minority etc may provide a barrier to succeeding in the establishment, it doesn't really matter, so long as you're pro war, pro debt based financial system, pro America, pro Israel and pro mass surveillance.
      People who relentlessly promote the above I consider 'off the establishment' and I think they continually use gender/race issues because they're too lazy to discuss their ideologies on neoliberalism, invading countries without evidence, imperialism, debt slavery, censorship. Hence the reason Douglas Murray cries about how he can't say anything about minorities without being called racist, yet the moment someone says something he doesn't like he calls them a Marxist or anti-Semitic!

  • @PeterKallio
    @PeterKallio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas Murray is a fresh breath of air.

  • @lynnadams3847
    @lynnadams3847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas, you are a breath of fresh air

  • @bonfyre4711
    @bonfyre4711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Well that's the thing with moralties
    They get rebelled against
    So too is wokeness being rebelled against

    • @julioarcaiko
      @julioarcaiko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, but the likeliness of defeating them is slim as they have media, entertainment and education on their side. We need many, many people together and it’s looking like and uphill battle.

    • @IndigoDisco
      @IndigoDisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@julioarcaiko We'll just have to hope not everyone's blinkered.

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love Jon Anderson. I wish he was our deputy prime minister. In fact, I wish he was our prime minister. Intelligent, thoughtful, reasoned and with an insightful mind. Australia let a good one go.

  • @prometheanevent
    @prometheanevent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The right definitely needs more Douglas Murrays.

  • @JanB56
    @JanB56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant excerpt.

  • @gt-fd8wc
    @gt-fd8wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In the U.K. society has become increasingly ‘serious and less tolerant in terms of free expression’ ever since Tony Blair and the Labour Party meddled with our historic legislation and rights. The meddling could be interpreted as bringing society a step closer to a moral objective, but unfortunately it has undermined the fundamental liberty of free speech. Decent citizens within society understood what was hateful. Obviously, a minority would not, and would be condemned by the majority as such! But similarly today, a minority utilise these updates to the statute book to bully, control and silence the opinions of others via virtue signalling! People and organisations do not like to be perceived as racist, sexist etc. so this method provides effective control of any discussion or objective outcome. Ironically, this same minority would view oppression as something to protest about, unless seemingly its application governs a topic to which they agree! This sets a dangerous precedence with regards the application of law and order in society! What if other members of society were to shut down debate on subjects of law? As an example, a law could be enacted where the freedom to protest could be curtailed, under the guise that it could attribute destructive & hateful division within society! Not as unlikely as you might ascribe, and one which could be deemed moral in it’s objective! Further to this example, what if the right-wing were to endorse such a law, shut down debate as immoral, and thus restrict the left’s freedom to protest; As is already witnessed within authoritarian dictatorships!
    So comes the choice, is it better to have a more liberal society where your free speech is ‘still judged’ by others on it’s moral standards; Or a society where free speech is controlled via state legislation and in turn ‘policed’ by others? Although these two choices appear very similar, the second one is much closer to a situation envisaged by George Orwell in his dystopian novel 1984. Both choices can be abused by a minority, but the eradication of true free speech also effects the freedoms of a fair majority!
    As you state, division can be created by hijacking the views of certain groups, controlling the narrative and subsequently harnessing their loyalty for alternative political objectives! Robust free speech is the only solution to prevent extremism, at the expense of potentially offending the fragile!

  • @thomasgassett7157
    @thomasgassett7157 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ah, Douglas ... a lonely voice in the wilderness.

  • @savvysista14
    @savvysista14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Douglas ' facial expression and reply to group divisions at timescalet 8.40 "what if that's the point?. What if that's the point?" was quite chilling.

  • @noweternity3101
    @noweternity3101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you - spot on !

  • @alchemy3264
    @alchemy3264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As long as our societies are "pulled apart" to some degree, constantly with no aim as to how it can be constructed in a better way, it remains in a kind of turmoil that always seems to benefit the most politically and economically powerful. Funny that.

  • @perrywidhalm114
    @perrywidhalm114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love listening to Douglas Murray but logic, evidence and reason will have little or no effect on the irrational SJW crowd have a religious experience.

  • @TotusTuusMaria1984
    @TotusTuusMaria1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This so well stated I nearly shouted out with an Amen!

  • @gearoidy
    @gearoidy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @03:10
    This is why I love this man. This kind of smirking descriptive eloquent phraseology. He speaks so well.

  • @pauld59
    @pauld59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I preferred a community that included the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker. How different Candlewick Green would look today

  • @karenness5588
    @karenness5588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speaking as a woman: the only equality with men I want is to be free of coercion and deceit, that promises, as in a reciprocal contract between individuals, be kept, that my property, including my life and body, be respected and, finally, that I be compensated for damages as if I were a rich man with a slew of lawyers to protect me when confronted by might and power.
    The same thing I am willing to grant all other sentient beings.

  • @ChrisGS1982
    @ChrisGS1982 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A really great interview.

  • @SS-fu7dw
    @SS-fu7dw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gosh Douglas Murray is awesome....all his words make so much sense to me !! I agree with him totally...we live in a crazy world !! 🙏🏽🇮🇳

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The weird thing is, as prevalent as this phenomenon is said to be (or in fact is), I have never met someone so possessed, or at least expressing these sentiments openly, in public.

    • @B10401
      @B10401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have talked to people who insist that the american police system is racist to the core, and that feel very superior for acknowledging their privilege. Professors, in front of my face, have claimed that Venezuela and Cuba are doing great things, and students eat it up. Despite all that, government policies are a better measure of whether it has done damage instead of who you've met in person. It affects you if you're one of the people that lives in those blocks in Seattle, or parts of my city minneapolis where private property is being destroyed, and police are quitting because they see that the activists are controlling the city officials. Governors and mayors don't stop it, and media calls the protests peaceful and calls Trump racist for a strong anti-looting stance.
      If this is just the beginning, the end might be very bad. Maybe it's not the beginning, only time will tell.

    • @mr2981
      @mr2981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@B10401 I have heard that business owners in the former CHAZ in Seattle are suing the city for basically leaving them to the anarchists. I hope the damage award is so massive that it will scare some sense into any 'leaders' who might cower or pander to these mobs. Of course as always, the awards will be borne by the taxpayers, not the useless tools who let it happen.

    • @garyvlahos635
      @garyvlahos635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin Richardson
      Don’t be so certain this this movement is just a passing fad .
      The Neoliberals are all over this movement , and they never let a good crisis go to waste .
      Give this a read : Adolph Reed Jr.’s “How Racial Disparity Does Not Help Make Sense of Patterns of Police Violence” .
      This is what Douglas Murray is loosely referencing ✌️

    • @arthurdick9553
      @arthurdick9553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary Vlahos . @Gary V. These neoliberal are camped in 10 Downing Street.

  • @EFChartley
    @EFChartley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing will replace spirit that western democratic values are predicated on

    • @DrewPicklesTheDark
      @DrewPicklesTheDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Democracy is not a "western value", the West has been around long before democracy, and every western country that has adopted it has turned in to a cultural cesspool after a few decades. Democracy is treated as a holy grail and peddled as a western value because the current rulers benefit from it. It is perhaps one of the most insidious methods of ruling ever devised because it allows those who hold the most influence rule by proxy, without the responsibility of being a formal ruler(s), to make it worse they can propagate the blame for their misdeeds on to certain groups of people and away from themselves. Because most people are stupid, they will fall for this and see their countrymen as the enemy instead of the actual ones screwing them over. Despite all that, even *IF* there is zero corruption _somehow._ You are still gambling the course of society in to the collective wisdom of the mob, the overwhelming majority of which have no experience or knowledge in what it takes to run a nation.

  • @skipdreadman8765
    @skipdreadman8765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of that was so well said.

  • @victorfaulds8018
    @victorfaulds8018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great man says it as it is love it so honest with the truthfulness

  • @ToxicPea
    @ToxicPea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:13 -10:04 he be kind of accurate though. I know so many 10-15 year-olds who fully believe in the post-modern concept of identity that it's scary.

    • @fortheloveofcrosstitch6230
      @fortheloveofcrosstitch6230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I keep hearing that that generation will rebel against this. I was hoping that was true.

    • @garyvlahos635
      @garyvlahos635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fortheloveofcrosstitch
      No “youth rebellion” is coming .
      We have an entire generation of parents who did not instil any particular “belief system” in their children .
      These youth were primed to accept the first cogent Ideology that came in their way .
      If the youth don’t believe in something , they will accept anything 🙏

    • @garyvlahos635
      @garyvlahos635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fortheloveofcrosstitch
      Give this a read :
      Adolph Reed Jr.’s “How Racial Disparity Does Not Help Make Sense of Patterns of Police Violence” .
      This is what Douglas Murray is loosely referencing ✌️

    • @ClergetMusic
      @ClergetMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My theory as to why younger people often embrace Marxism is because they don’t have anything to lose yet. It’s appealing because it promises them a slice of the pie they haven’t earned yet. When they finally have to consider giving up a slice of the pie they have rightly earned so someone else can have it, they become conservatives. They don’t fully realize that this is what the abolition of private property means: you don’t own the fruits of your labor and someone else can legitimately take them for their own use.

  • @thegreywanderer8427
    @thegreywanderer8427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The problem with this morality is that it's a thing from the book 1984 by George Orwell. And not one of the good things from it either.

    • @leeoreilly6797
      @leeoreilly6797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Woah, wooooooaaaaaahhhhhhhh, referencing 1984! Wooooooooaahh! Deepppeepppp!

  • @susieb7140
    @susieb7140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas Murray is a beautiful human being. Shoots from the hip!!. Then he adds in a heap of common sense. Just adore him.❤❤❤

  • @kennyshortcake999
    @kennyshortcake999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on as usual Duggy

  • @michaelriehl7206
    @michaelriehl7206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Half expected of you” it was called common sense. No a days the minority emotionalism dictate what the majority is opposed of.

  • @piglex1
    @piglex1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Biblical. 'Load bearing walls' for a house built on sand.

  • @xjrman1
    @xjrman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A highly intelligent take on the state of things today.

  • @VirgoBirrane
    @VirgoBirrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great clarity

  • @TonkaGoldman-xd5iw
    @TonkaGoldman-xd5iw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Making money from causing major issues out of nothing.

  • @paulworthington8666
    @paulworthington8666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Common Sense“, in its Enlightenment origins (Hutcheson,
    Hume, etc.), meant shared values, developed over generations of shared experience
    by members of a society living and working together, as the common ethic. “Wokeness” is the snide, cynically assumed,
    sense of contempt for the majority, by minorities who hate the societies in
    which they live, although it was the tolerance of these societies which gave them
    the liberty to be so obnoxious with impunity.

  • @zerodeconduite804
    @zerodeconduite804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Why would we be taking The Individualism out of Individuals." That made me cry.

  • @TonySmith-jj9fv
    @TonySmith-jj9fv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas Murray is a treasure.

  • @Majnun74
    @Majnun74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Words often betray their own purpose, obscuring the very thoughts they are designed to express.” - Francis Bacon

  • @jerryg3524
    @jerryg3524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the bearded man with genitalia winning the women's weight-lifting competition, lol, Reminds one of the very real instance of the bearded man in drag winning the Euro-song contest and claiming he/she was doing it for women's and gay rights

  • @fermentedtruths
    @fermentedtruths 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas Murray always speaks sense 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @hannahgal
    @hannahgal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Douglas Murray is amazing!

  • @magpieoftruth6594
    @magpieoftruth6594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Does anyone else see a correlation between the decline of Christianity and the increase in SJW wokeness?

  • @amadetto2271
    @amadetto2271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Staying woke for more than 16 hours at a time is seriously dangerous for your health. Get some sleep people! There’s a pandemic afoot!

  • @jarrettbobbett5230
    @jarrettbobbett5230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great talk very good information here, cheers mate.

  • @yellowcardinal693
    @yellowcardinal693 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really fantastic discussion