How is Sikhi different from Hinduism? Is Hinduism a Dharma or a religion?
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- During the Atheism talk, we had open questions. One of the audience members, (a Hindu lady) questioned the assertion that "Hinduism is not a religion like Christianity or Islam neither is it a dharm like Sikhi or Buddhism". She was rather adamant and therefore we did have to address her point. Although the point of this channel is to talk about Sikhi, many Sikhs do not understand Hinduism or Islam that well and so sometimes it helps to learn more about how Sikhi is different to other faiths. Delivered on the 21st October 2013 @ Royal Holloway.
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It's actually wrong to define Hinduism as a religion. It's more of a spiritual culture of India. Shaivism, Vashnavism, Shaktism, Yoga and many more are all various different spiritual traditions of what is known as Hinduism.
Exactly ! He misquotes the Manusmriti !
@@TheB657exactly. It’s a culture of India lol Hinduism is not a religion or a way of life. It’s a culture tradition😂
Francois Gautier's words about being a Hindu:
1) Believe in God - Aastik - Accepted.
2) Don't believe in God - Nastik - You're still accepted.
3) You want to worship idol - please go ahead. You are a Murti Poojak.
4) You don't want to worship idol - no problem. You are a Nirguna Brahman.
5) You want to criticise in our religion. Come forward. We're logical. Nyaya Tarka, etc. are core of Hindu schools.
6) You want accept beliefs as it is. Most welcome. Please go ahead with it.
7) You want to start your journey by reading Bhagvat Gita - Sure!
8) You want to start your journey by reading Upanishads - Go ahead.
9) You want to start your journey by reading Puranas - Be my guest.
10) You don't like reading any books - No problem. Go by bhakti traditions. (Bhakti - devotion).
11) You don't like Bhakti - No problem. Do your Karma. Be a Karmyogi.
12) You want to enjoy life - Very good. This is Charvaka philosophy.
13) You want to abstain from all the enjoyment of life. Sure. Jai ho! Be a Sadhu, an ascetic.
14) You don't like the concept of God. You believe in Nature only - Welcome. (Trees are our friends and Prakriti Or Nature is worthy of worship).
15) You believe in one God or supreme energy. Superb! Follow Advaita philosophy.
16) You want to be a Guru. Go ahead. Receive Gyan.
17) You don't want a Guru.... Help yourself, meditate, study!
18) You believe in female energy! Ok Shakti is worshipped.
19) You believe that every human being is equal. Yeah! You're awesome, come on let's celebrate Hinduism.
"Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" (The whole world is one family).
20) You don't have time to celebrate the festival. Don't worry, one more festival is coming. There are multiple festival in a year.
21) You're a working person. Don't have time for religion. It's ok. You are still a Hindu.
22) You like to go to temple. Devotion is loved.
23) You don't like to go to temple - No problem. You're still a Hindu.
24) You know Hinduism/Sanaatan Dharma is a way of life with considerable freedom.
25) You believe that everything has God in it. So you worship your mother, father, Guru, tree, river, Prani-matra, earth, universe!
26) And You don't believe that everything has God in it - No problem. Respect your viewpoint.
27) "Sarve jana sukhino bhavantu". (May you all live happily).
You represent this! You're free to choose, my dear Hindu.
This is the essence of Hinduism/Sanaatan Dharma, all inclusive.... That is why it has withstood the test of time inspite of repeated Outslaught both from within and outside, and assimilated every good aspect from everything. That is why it is eternal...
It’s not a way of life when everyone does different things u cow fuxking dirty moot culture it is
Yeah this is why hindus are weak😅
Great
People who hold Vedas as Supreme authority - Astika.
People who don't accept Vedas as Supreme authority -Nastikas. I.e . Buddhism, Jainism, Vaisheshika, Sikkhi, Carvaka.
@@abhijeetchavhan37Hit the bullseye indra is supreme
Manu Smriti is not a religious book. It's a code of conduct which is outdated and it was totally wrong.
Upanishads are the core texts of Sanatan Dharma. 😊
I am a Sikh and I love reading Upanishads. Such an amazing timeless text
@@thinkingcitizen Thnx bro! I would love to read the Guru-Granth Sahib, but i don't know the language that much, and I don't really have access. Plus if i do read it in english, it might take away the beauty of it. Do you know where I can read it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but i've heard that the lanuage it is written in is similar to sanskrit
@Jaishriram69784 Guru Granth Sahib Ji is written in many languages.
Hinduism is the way of living. It never started and never be ended...And who don't take birth never dies. And all the religions have a starting time but sanatan dharma don't have starting date.
Lol . Source ; trust me bro
It has and Waheguru ji knows..
@@JashanpreetkaurHundal-w6f
What has what?
@@karate2252 Well if thats the case, then tell how we aren't the first dharma? Give me proof of an older dharma than us. There is no historical or physical proof. Archaelogists have found murtis that are over 29,000 years old according to them. During the vedic period, there was no murtis. So the vedic period is even older than that. We are by far the oldest, and the first dharma. Our dharma was given to Manu after creation in our belief.
So don't go around saying "trust me bro", when ignorant people like you can't open their eyes a bit wider and see the truth. Maybe you can argue with philosophy, or faith, as it is based on belief, but hard concrete evidence, like the historical proof that archaelogists have found, is one you can't argue against. So before you say trust me bro, go and educate yourself, and learn about the dharma yourself before commenting
Brother please don't say anything about Hinduism/Sanaatan dharma without knowledge or half information...u are just showing one side of Hinduism in disrespectful manner... So please don't do this we r from same culture... Read Bhagawad Gita and Vedas properly
Well said
He didn’t seem disrespectful to me - it appeared as though he was doing analytical philosophy, given that he's an Oxford philosophy graduate. Jagraj articulated a proposition along the lines of: "an organised religion is defined by clear rules and/or codes, and those who attempt to adhere to those clearly defined rules codes are therefore adherents of that religion". He then cross referenced that proposition with whether “Hinduism” has specific, clearly defined rules and codes with the entire historical corpus of the Hindu tradition, and concluded, that given that there are multiple different incompatible and even antithetical systems of thought (for example, a creator vs no creator, or duality vs non-duality), that there is no singular nor congruent position for *everyone* under the umbrella term of Hinduism to adhere to, and given that there's no agreement on what is being adhered to, that thing cannot exist as a system. We can only adhere to systems that in fact exist. This is even accepted by the lady who opposed him, when he asked "would all Hindus be taught the same thing?”; her response was, ad verbatim, "no, possibility not". By her own admission, there is no objective, uniform, systematic dogma or doctrine that could or would serve as an undeniable definition of Hinduism. Jagraj also brings up the case-study of Christianity: that whilst Christians may have multiple different sects due to differences of doctrine, there is no dispute on dogma that "Christ is the door to salvation", and another case-study, that all Muslims are to follow the Qu'ran and the Qu'ran alone, or they are not deemed to be Muslims. As evidenced above, this cannot be said for Hinduism, since some so-called Hindu doctrines are atheist, whilst others are theist - or, some are dualist, some are non-dualist etc etc etc.
He then further cross-references his argument with Sikhism, and suggests that any "Sikh" who follows anything other than the Guru Granth Sahib, is not a Sikh, given that the Guru Granth Sahib contains all of the clearly defined rules and codes and is recognised as the final and only “living” authority on Sikh matters. It's a non-negotiable, objective stance, and therefore the opposite of a relativistic one. He's also not criticising Hinduism negatively nor morally for being relativistic - he's simply stating in a very neutral, non-aggressive and matter-of-fact way, that given his initial proposition of an organised religion being defined by clear rules and/or codes, Hinduism would not fit into that category - there is no "one path" in Hinduism, there are innumerable paths, hence the panoply of gods, scriptures, philosophies, beliefs and lifestyles. He would go further to say it also isn't a "way of life", given that there is no constitutionally agreed upon path that would unify the 800 million or so Hindus that live predominantly in India, and that if it was a "way of life", it would therefore have to include the Sikhs, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and Jains that also live in India, with the name of that cultural-geographical location re-termed as “Hindustan”, given that some Sikhs/Muslims/Buddhists/Christians/Jains can have more in common in terms of lifestyle and ethics with some Hindus than those Hindus do with other Hindus.
Blessings to you all.
@@tobysanghera5829 He has a top brainwashing then.... ever winder
why they call it 'reading at oxford' ?
bc there is no real research only reading what came before. Power & Con troll.
@@tobysanghera5829 Oxford not in India it’s in Europe so how he know about hindu culture stop 🛑 you don’t know who is Sikh you’re telling us what is Hindusam
Hinduism is a name given to us by foreigners, we are Sanatan dharma same as Buddhism, Jain. I won’t include Sikhi because they monotheistic like Islam and Christians,Jews. Off course we know the true origin of Sikhi but they change their holy book and take out hindu deities names and called them Lord. Until 1905 they used to keep hindu deities states in harmandir ( golden temple) and all gurdwares.
Hinduism is an ethnic religion, meaning that its principles are likely to be based on the physical characteristics of the particular location in which its adherents are concentrated. Rigid approach to theological matters is not central to Hinduism. Basically, they believe that it is up to the individual to decide the best way to worship God. Hinduism is a religion that will mostly appeal to/ stay within India which is why it is so adamant on culture and tradition rather than God.
No. It is not ethnic - It is widespread common and all encompassing. *It is a civilization and culture that has got a religious following not the other way around.* This guy misquoted the Manusmriti.
Very true bhaji!
The lady’s ground just shattered.
Your bhaijis ground is biased lmao 🤣 when asked for source he says Google it lmao
when you have different religions in the same religion what you have is a sect.
Don’t spread wrong information, do introduction to Hinduism 101 course first. Whatever practice is performed by sikhs are present in Hindus too. We are basically one people, with one types of traditions, ethics too. Every concept in Sikhism and Sanatan sanskriti is the same.
Sikhism is a monotheist religion making it very distinct from Hinduism.
Hinduism is a mix of tradition and culture.
And personal godmen worship.
Sikhism is distinct.
I would say much more closer to Islam than any other faith.
Yet it is still very distinct compared to islam aswell👍
@@gs-fx5zq due to Sikhs swinging more towards the Hindus after the Mughals atrocities.
Before those events, especially under Nanak it’s was very Islamic.
@@read7641 Islam believes God and his creation are distinct - pure monotheism. This creates 2 separate entities. Sikhi believes in panenthiestic monotheism which posit God envelops around creation like a cocoon. This is 1 entity. It is fundamentally different metaphysically. Also spiritually Islam prays outwards towards Kaba etc. Sikhism prays inwards doing meditation. In Islam prosttation means worship. In Sikhism prosttation means respect, not an act of worship. This respect is customary to Indian culture. To impress Islamic standards on sikhi is to make a category mistake fallacy. Sikhi is a distinct religion based on universal principles with its own respective standards and set of rules. Every religion shares some commonalities. Just because there is a partial overlap doesn't mean there is a total overlap. That's fallacy of composition. Monotheism is not exclusive to Islam, for eg Zoroastrianism was first monotheistic religion. All religions have some overlap, these are universal truths. Sikhi is based on the principality of these universal truths.
Not going against you here brother just clarifying the logic.
@@read7641 say guru nanak not only (nanak)
@@alamgirKhan-hp3xp just a man he is not god, I disagree with making common men into godmen - that is a Hindu scam
Dear its better to restraint to speak for others if you dont have any knowledge,
Dear I hear more hindus speaking about Sikhs without any knowledge as well . Sikhs are not Hindus
Veer Ji you're absolutely right with what you have said. Also I would recommend everyone watch this video on the meaning of the word Hindu: Reality of name Hindu by Pandit Mahendra Pal Arya HQ After listening to it, it's shocking that people are still proud to call themselves Hindus.
I am sanatani
*I proudly call myself Hindu and Sanatani because nowhere in Manusmriti written this nonsense. This is the only culture and civilization that worships women and children.* I just wish to punch you bloody Khalistani rascals.
I am happy to see someone like the founder of “Basic of Sikhi” literally destroying the authority of Hindu dharma in spiritual world. I am just thinking how much easy it was for invaders to kill Hindu, Sikhs, Jains and Budhs.
Oh really? So if it was so easy then why hinduism is still alive or why is it still followed. It would have vanished just like many sikhs are getting converted to Christianity in Punjab 😂 .
@@Agnosticno.1 my beloved brother , it’s sarcasm . Lot of love for my Snatan brothers
@@Agnosticno.1Jews are still alive? So that's mean they weren't massacred?
Yeah the poison he spat just now made me very sad
How many times does one have to cough?
Which year Sikh became Religion? Anyone
slipper lol - I think many hindus don't consider manusimirit as revelation but a text from a hindu. But you have someone like meera bhai and then durga. I think you need the manusimirit with you for verse and chapter quotes.
The people coughing are driving me crazy
Laws of Manu isnt Hindu scripture. Its just a random bozo's opinion that was made popular by the British.
@@shunyatva5308 nihilist like you wouldn't understand but still a try. Hinduism is vedic dharma not manu dharma.
Smashed it ❤
is there any concept in sikhi which is different in sikhi than hindhu concepts ------guru kirtan diyan japa diety reincarnation karma moksha advaita
I always followed this guy and has great idea about Sikhi and this guy, until and unless I saw this video
Although he is no more(Om shanti) but it's sad he passed away with such a wrong idea of Hinduism
Quick question how is everything /every religion different when there is only one ?? . I mean teaching of all the religions are the same . Ain’t it?
Who are you criticize our Hinduism sikh is different not dharmik religion . dharmik religions are Hinduism budhism Jainism are same
Ram and Ram Chand are different in Guru Granth my dear Hindu/Sanatani frnds
jagraj ji ,fyi,sikhs dont feed brahmins when there loved ones pass away,they feed 5 pyaares
Aghori are extreme marga of the vamacara, it is also advanced practice that comes often after serious accomplishment on dakshina marga. The utilization of pancamakara (use of 5 forbidden substances and actions) are designed to deliberately transgress taboos and indulge in the gross, putrid and disgusting, to move beyond disgust and duality on much broader level than in just thinking or meditating. Yet, although these pancamakaras are used daily, the main parctice is rooted in tantras of shaiva or shakta types, where all kinds of rituals, mantrajap, murti worship, fire rituals, etc come. When mantras become alive and the devata blesses upasaka with her communion, all forms of conduct that come spontaneously are becoming part of the divne expression within this avesham. They're mostly into smashan upasana of fierce forms of deities. - when you say Hinduism, it is indeed a very broad term. Sanatana Dharma is any spiritual tradition loosely or tightly derrived from Vedas Shastras and Upanishads, Agamas, Tantras or Sutras. If it teaches about samsara, karma, reincarnation and methods of transcending samsara and reaching liberation, nirvana, kaivalya, moksha.. it is Sanatana Dharma, where by this definition, Sikhi also belongs. Also 6 philosophy schools - Sankhya, Nyaya, Mimamsa, Yoga, Vaisheshika and Vedanta are underlying foundations of all hinduism branches.
To learn about aghori, three legendary books by R. Svoboda - AGHORA I,II and III (libgen . rs) will let you see a glimpse of their worldview and practivces as well as philosophy. The Supreme can be awakened in very many ways, which you can see from reading Vijnana-Bhairava Tantra (112 different forms of sadhana) and other Kashmiri Shaiva sources.
First of all Hinduism and Sikhism are no religions. Part of the sanatan establishment
Wrong
Hinduism is a term coined by the Persians, “Sanatan Dharma” is the correct name. This guy is clearly ignorant and does not understand his own religion which bread from Vedic Philosophy. Guru Nanak was chaturvedi - master of four veds and brahmin family. Soul has a spiritual journey and there are many paths to unite with God - Yog. He is describing Agori (which is a harsh practice but teaches detachment and self realization of us being a soul and not the perishable material body. There are various levels of engagement in Sanatan Dharma to help elevate the soul and transcend material modes of nature or maya. That is the belief of Sanatan Dharma. He is speaking without knowledge and in ignorance.
Guru Nanak hi also read Quran...reading doesn't changes your relegion...its your beleief that decides which way to follow
@@jeevanjotsingh9143 do you have any proof that he read Qur'an and I know you are saying that to detach guru nanak from his vedic roots (that Vedas are not special he had also read other religions books) but did he also read bible? and all Indians are connected to their vedic roots specially Indic panths that is buddhism Jainism and Sikhism
@@pawanchoudhary6869 you know we have a line in our evening prayer - "Ram rahim puran Qur'an anek khae mat ek na manyo"....
@@pawanchoudhary6869 even he went to Mecca when his muslim devotee wanna go...we Sikhs believe that his knowledge passed between the guru and the 10 guru recides the Qur'an when a molvi came to teach him when he was 5
@pawanchoudhary6869 that’s not true . Guru Nanak Dev ji was not a Hindu , nor he had Vedic roots . Hi denied wearing janeyu. He also said *na hum hindu na musalman* Then how can u say his roots are so called Vedic?
Religion has mired this guy in more maya and attachments. He is now a learned Sikh and has to disavow everything else. He forgets that when God created so much diversity of existence, why would create he only one true path to Him. What kind of bigoted thinking sees diversity of ritual and spiritual thought and mocks it?
Guru Nanak said the Hindu (one who holds blind beliefs, is ritualistic, worships many idols/many gods) is blind, Muslim (Turku; one who is dogmatic, is blindly ritualistic, but bows/worships only One Almighty God) is one-eyed, but Gyani (the wise - one who knows/has realised the Truth) is better (siyana) than both. Sikhi is the 100% truth. While others are doing worship of gods creation insetad of GOD the CREATOR. hope this makes sense for you and you will calm down and not insult someone who has passed away. You are the one truly showing bigotory and ego.
@@Bankrupt1111 had no idea that this person passed away! My condolences! As for your explanation, I am a Hindu but my beliefs are not blind. Rituals are language of Gods. If you can’t understand it, don’t speak about it. Focus on your faith, don’t poke into mine!
@@mspatnaik ok keep doing your rituals then that’s not my business but, what he stated is 100% true, hinduism is a culture, also assuming someone you do not even know is drowning in maya or attachments is so bigoted to say.
@@Bankrupt1111 I won’t speak ill of deceased but there is a lot of supremacist thinking there! You all should stop thinking of yourself as superior culture and race! We are all equal. People who worship idols are not beneath you! People who are dark skinned are also equal to you! Stop preaching racist jingoistic hate!
Waheguru!
Half baked knowledge. Anyways, I loved your stand comedy.
Hinduism is very confusing , crazy , non sense , and worst religion i have ever seen
Sikhism is a branch of Hinduism
@@nishaanmann7469 haha why you comparing with all time great god's Shiva , Vishnu and Brahma.
Don't judge things seeing them on screen . Be logical haha .
WE belong to the same culture and Sikhism originated from Hinduism , In india the muslims you see are converted people. they're muslims originated from Hinduism but got converted.
@@indianairforceaspirant7667lol we are sikhs we believe in one god and dont follow prophet muahmmed .you hindunism was invented during british raj .hindunsim is a culture tradition
@@groundzero5708 hindusim isn't a real religion. Guru nanak or wahtever the fuck made up his own religion, at a time when 'hindus' and muslism were fighting, that's why its just a hodge podge of contradicting shit. Thats why u have it saying brahma and krishna and shiva are real, and that Mohammad was a messenger etc
@@nishaanmann7469you are basically just full of yourself! You want to create a sense of exceptionalism for yourself and become the monster you see in others!
@@djsjsjjejebfbdjit is sad to see such ignorance among many Hindus and Sikhs! They don’t know anything about the rich spiritual history of the land they were fortunate to be born in.
Did Sikhs evolve or drop out of the sky.
Neither Muslims Christians jews or hindus so what's the point?
It's way of life - now whether it's good or bad that's different thing
Na koi hindu, na moselman...
Sare teri na de yaar
Na koi sikh when you say this then it is apply to you
@@geralofrivia2.0yes we can a sikh is a disciple of the gurus and a follower of their teachings who do u follow??? Hanuman??😂 ganesh?? Kali mata?😂 33 million mythic weak gods
@@Akash-fi9ncNo. We worship one Brahmn (Supreme Reality) or Parmatma and their infinite forms 🙏
By the way gurus also take Gyan from The Vedas, and the Upanishads And The Geeta 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Jay mahakal
@@geralofrivia2.0 we aint told to worship ur millions of gods💀
Baba sri chand ki jai ho jai ho tell me something about baba sri chand ji
Sadly this parcharak (preacher) passed away back in 2017. But I can tell you sri chand ji was Guru Nanak Dev jis son, who rejected his fathers beliefs, and would always deny any requests that Guru Nanak Dev ji gave him.
You shouldn’t talk about something you have no knowledge about . It’s shameful to see such blatant lies from someone who preaches a religion .
You don't no anything veer ji
Learning to spell first lindu
Great
Wah ji wahh
It's obvious that Sikhism took thing from Islam and Hinduism and made new religion it did not created something new theological. Ek onkar. How onkar can be one mathematically speaking you term infinity as one. What is onkar is in upanishad and Sikh stole it, idea of ek is from Abrahamic religion and u got Sikhism ek onkar. Plagrism in its purest form.
You really think in this thousand years of evolution the basic teachings of good deeds, love, compassion etc should also change especially considering Sikhism is a very new religion compared to Islam and Hinduism which both are thousands of years old. Going by your logic even Islam, Christianity (though Abrahmic) should be considered a plagiarised verison of Hinduism with some modifications though.
He has spoken about this assumed plagiarism in his debate with a Muslim. You should check that out.
Omkar derived from om , Guru nanak dev ji called God omkar , and fundamentally both relegion are same , panthesism view of God and Moksha attain same , hindu and sikh believe in incarnate of soul , nd our next birth based on our present karm , sikhism is more near to vedic sanatan and now hinduism more near manusimrti sanatan believe in karm kand and moksha , there is three path of hinduism for moksha joint with shabad or janna or knowledge which sikhism follow and karm kand path which is mostly followed by hinduism these days and I desire neither worldly power nor liberation. I desire nothing but seeing the Lord.
Brahma, Shiva, the Siddhas these all wrote on Guru Granth Sahiab.there is more similarity between hinduism and sikhism than difference. Vedic sanatan relegion believe in one supreme.