How to Ride Modern Hardtails: Old School Technique vs Modern Mountain Bike Technique
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มี.ค. 2020
- In this episode we take a look at old school vs new-school riding styles, along with old school and modern frame geometry. Which riding style do you fit in? Do you prefer short reaches, or long reaches? Head angles slacker than 65*, or steeper than 65*? Do you tend to lean back going down hills, or lean forward over the front? Did you learn something? If so, consider becoming a Patron today: / hardtailparty
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of the 30-40 bike videos i have watched this year, this one BY FAR has given me the most to think about. i almost feel like this should be on a loop in bike stores
I concur this statement
When i started riding, my friends told me to put my butt over the back wheel when descending. A few years later i realized how much this was holding me back. No chance to get around a corner in the steeps if your arms are fully stretched out. I actually learned about modern technique from watching downhill worldcup races. I always try to push the front wheel in to the ground as much as possible now and look for little natural features like roots or rocks in the apex of the corner that i can slam the front tire into so i dont slip. Think of it like a mini berm. When i go riding with friends who are new to the sport the most important advice i give them is to always hover over the bars with an angle in the elbows and knees and drop the heels. After that they usually ride pretty gnarly stuff on their first ride without problems and love it!
This was an excellent read. Thank you.
This video is AWESOME! I've had this idea for a while, you did a great job explaining the differences.
Thanks Jeff, that means a lot. It was a challenge trying to figure out how to explain/demonstrate it, but I'm proud of how it turned out. A lot of people, especially hardtail riders, have an old school riding style and I wanted to be able to distinguish when doing reviews.
Yes great job!
@@hardtailparty This video was amazing. Im getting my first modern geo full suspension bike soon and im glad I saw this to put me in the right mindset. Otherwise it would have been at least a month of issues before I hopefully figured out the riding position.
@@hardtailparty I have a specialized hardrock 2012, I assume it's a traditional geo, cause of it's quite a steep headtube. I'm quite short though but pick up a size up model making the reach feels actually long but I'm used to it and having fun with it.
Now I'm thinking of buying a more modern bike, I want to change my style first. Mine, I think it's kinda in between but more towards old style, but not super to the back.
Can I do more new style with my hardrock? Sometimes my body just bring the weight back because the back is jumping on the rocky descent section. Should I wait till I got a new bike? Or am I just being to sceptical?
@@cesraihandary it's an old school geo. You can add an angleset or just adapt to how it rides.
I'm an old... old school rider and notice my bike and I don't perform well when I get lazy and stop attacking the trail and let my body position go back to the old school ways. Thanks for explaining it in a very relatable way.
You're spot on. Fatigue makes us want to relax, and modern bikes don't do so well when we're in a relaxed stance. O notice that a lot on long days. Thanks for bringing this up, it's super important.
@@hardtailparty just engage your core and stay relaxed in the rest.
@@hardtailparty This detail clicked for me as well, all my recent crashes have been when I have been going to a relaxed ride and not pushing it (not in an attack position)
I'd like to see the same comparison on an "old school" bike. If you use the Modern technique on an Old School bike, do you endo and eat dirt?
@@danielmcgowan9534I mean.... that's what I remember about putting too much weight on the bar with a 120mm stem and a 72 deg. head angle. Lotsa endos.
I'm 45, I started riding again after a nearly decade long trail running break, beacause of my little boy who just started it, he is 4. Yesterday I crashed big time with my new, modern geo hardtail. Now I understand why. Thank you. The oldschool style looks better though. I'm new to this channel, but I love your content man! Rediscovering this world is such a great experience.
Welcome back to the sport. A clinic or coaching session is some of the best money I've ever spent on this sport.
I've been riding old school hardtails for quite some time and just recently got an awesome modern FS All-Mountain from my awesome wife. I was super confused as to how this ultra modern bike felt a lot worse riding it than an old "outdated" hardtail, but watching this video now it REALLY clicks! this makes a TON of sense! thank you so much for explaining this. I will start trying to change my ride style to fit the new bike geometry and get more fun out of it! Cheers from Sweden!
Thank you for breaking this down. Love the side by side shots. Visually this is so helpful.
Definitely an in-betweener. Have had my "modern" bike for about 7 months now, and keep reminding myself that it's safe (and faster/smoother) to lean forward on the descents.
If you begin to feel unstable on descents the modern style is to get low. Drop your chest towards the bars, lower center of gravity = more stable. Getting low does reduce your range of movement however, that's where the skill is involved in riding, constantly changing position based on the trail. happy spinning
I thought Old School technique meant open-face helmet with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth.
Nah. That's middle-old-school. Old school is a doobie and no helmet.
@@abadatha and spandex. because speed.
That was MX
Ah, the 90s.
Some of the vintage tour de france photos are great. riders drinking beer at rest stops, smoking while riding etc
Adjusting to modern bikes is incredibly hard, especially as someone who now is riding on a modern hardtail and who rode (in the 90s and early 2000s) on fully rigid bikes.
Wow, I love this video. I was riding old-school way with a new-school frame. I gotta try to stop putting my ass waaay baaaack too much. Thanks!
*A few points of clarification:*
1) "Modern" technique could also be called "proper" riding technique, regardless of your bike's geo.
2) I recommend a "modern" technique on all bikes, not just "modern" bikes.
3) "Modern" technique is REQUIRED to ride modern bikes in control. You can't ride a modern bike well with old-school technique.
4) "Old school" technique is possible on old school geo, but modern technique on an old-school geo is even better.
5) Not all "new" bikes are "modern"
6) "Modern" bikes aren't best for everyone or every trail (but modern technique is).
7) What's a "modern" bike by my definition? I'm classifying "modern" hardtails as bikes with a 65* hta or slacker, and reaches longer than 440mm for a size med, or 470 for a size large.
8) Geometry charts only tell part of the story. I've found a few bikes that look perfect on paper, but they don't ride right at all. Nothing beats a test-ride.
Great list.
Steve, this was a very unique subject matter and it drove a point very well for me. I must learn a modern style of riding because i am old school. I have NOT SEEN anyone else explain differences as clearly as you just did... well done. I HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS. Thanks!!!!
@@gastonuzc Thanks Gaston. I'll keep trying to highlight the differences. There are a lot of online coaches who explain these differences extremely well, but most people don't know about online MTB coaching. I'll do my best to keep creating similar content.
What about a Scott Aspect? Btw, love this channel. I am a new mtb rider with a hardtail.
Great list 👍
Ha! You've nailed that for me! I've just got back on a bike for the first time since 2009. I've really struggled with corners, berms, hitting steep rock gardens and not constantly losing my front wheel and it's this. So chuffed I watched this.
For a newer rider like myself this video was fantastic. Simple yet effective. Loved the contrast split screen with the different techniques. Thanks!
I started riding in the late 90s and remember a bike mag giving tips on climbing and descending. It said that on the real steep stuff that you might even have to rest your chest on your saddle 😂 We’ll to be fair, it did work back then. But now going from a 72 ht angle to a 65, it’s time to adjust my riding style. Thanks for the tips!
This makes soooo much sense! Thank you! I generally have a old school technique of riding but since getting my Giant Trance I have found that I don’t need to ride like that. This video just confirms everything I have been feeling with the new bike.
Awesome vid! I’m in my mid 50s and have been riding Mtn bikes since the earl 80s. Racing bmx before that. I really appreciate you spelling out these differences. And creating awesome video demonstrations. I’ve found myself weighting the front of my older full suspension bike more and more. And now look forward to trying that on a modern hard tail. Great work!
Some words of wisdom there. You absolutely nailed how modern bikes need to be ridden.
This is extremely helpful to me. I upgraded to RipmoAF toward the end of the year last year and some things have definitely felt different and not been like I was used to. This really gives me a visual and what to work on for a slacker bike. I will watch a few times. Seeing the comparison side by side is especially helpful
This is awesome stuff man. Your last few videos have been such high quality with killer content. Thank you! I grew up mountain biking in the 90s, was out of the scene for a while and got back into it a few years ago. Seeing the comparison between how I learned and how to change things up for newer bikes is great. Keep riding and killing it! 🤙
This is spot on. Once I bought a “New geo” bike I did not think to change my technique at all and was washing out constantly. It took a couple of years to figure out why that was, I wish I would have watched some proper tutorials on how to corner by weighting the front wheel. I’m a ton more dialed now but I feel like is the longest journey to master. It’s fun making incremental improvements though! Great Vid, keep it Dialed in!
This is one of the most useful MTB videos I have EVER seen! You did an amazing job of distilling the content into something anyone can understand. With that said, I now want an olde Skool bike!!
runNride 👍 Tell me why - I want to be able to follow your reasoning!
I've learned a ton from you, Steve. Both your videos and the one ride we did together.
I took my new krampus out last night and I feel like I'm definitely in between these two riding styles. Getting better for sure.
I was literally talking about cornering yesterday and about body positioning. This was a very informative video. Thank you for posting it!
Actually since I have my new giant reign 2019 I felt like the old school way of riding didn't fit the bike and was trying to figure out a better riding position. This video is really helpful even if you know what you are doing because you show both ways and the differences
This video is gold!! Explains allot actually, I ride a Meta V3 and I see what you mean... It's crazy to see the difference. Outstanding 🤘🏾💪🏾🤘🏾
Thanks! This is very interesting. Went from older geometry to a long, slack and low bike and crashed several times due to the front wheel washing out. “Bad bike”, “Wrong size” and I bought a new one. The same feel with the new one. Now I’m starting to adopt the new riding technique and found an “in between bike” with less extreme geometry (compared to my old ones) and things work out better now. This edit made it even clearer for me !
This video is so awesome, thank you. I'm graduating from old school to modern riding myself. Last year I went from a 2001 model bike to a 2019 model bike. I'm still learning how to ride the newer bike.
Thank you for your good advice and reviews. I am 54 and coming back into the sport. A ‘92 Bontrager (with static fork) was my last new bike. I was considering retiring from trail riding because I was getting so beat up. Because of your review of the specialized fuse I picked up a used ‘21. The geo was was an adjustment, felt completely foreign with the pitched forward position and wide bars. But I find myself centered on the bike as opposed to my butt hanging off the back on my old bike.
Dropper posts are a game changer, truly a safety feature and unlocking the potential of a sloping top tube.
My old Bontrager is collecting dust in the garage. It looks and feels like a clown bike now.
The dropper post really changed how I cornered too even on a more traditional bike (69 .05 HTA, 79mm trail , 436mm reach in a size large). Being able to lean the bike in underneath you without the seat in the way really lets you steer with the legs. Still doesn't come quite as naturally to me or the bike but its incredible how many subtle differences that one component makes. I like the nuance in this video though, really interested to try out more modern geo someday.
Steve, Bravo! This info is so good. I went from an old school XC full sus to a modern trail bike and this is my exact experience in the corners. I'll have to try your technique with the steep descents. Good stuff.
woah!!!! as an old school 80s racer, everything just changed! thanks
Helps a lot for a new rider. Thanks Steve.
Helps us older riders learn new tricks too.
I'm still running an old bike (26", frame from early 2010s), so the riding style that suits it is more on the trad side. But I'll be taking note of the points made here. Anyway riding is a continuous learning process. Great video as usual!
This is hands-down one of the best how to mtb videos I've ever seen! Thanks, man!
Just discovered your channel. Can’t decide what I like more... how easy you are to understand when it comes to learning MTB faqs or the fact that your sweatshirts are only $36!!! Great content!
Thanks for this, it's a hard habit to break when back in the day getting forward meant Endo-city. I just try to keep my weight on my pedals and let the bike do the work! Kids these days don't know how good they have it! Get off my lawn!!
Haha. So true. My first bike was a 1988 Jamis Dakota fully ridged machine. My first rides were SlickRock, Porcupine Ridge, and Poison Spider Mesa in Moab. I thought I’d died and gone to heaven I had so much fun. I still remember being amazed that a bike could be ridden off road like that. To this day, I haven’t put as many miles on a single bike as I did that Jamis. From Cape Cod to California to Colorado, Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming, I rode that bike everywhere. And I walked to school in the snow!!
Aaaah, how did I miss this one? Yes, this is exactly how I felt going from my XTC to my Blue Pig. The "get back behind the back wheel" descending style is 100% me.
I just found some more or less deserted trails on the way to work, so I'll be practicing these techniques more as we get more daylight. Thanks Steve!
Old school riding style, just bought a new school bike and was finding it a bit weird until this video opened up a whole new riding technique to master. Totally brilliant, thanks HP👊
Great vid, practiced these techniques today and what a difference. Way more composed and in control, on the downs and cornering.
This was a really interesting topic. Over the years I found I'm really uncomfortable on any bike with a long reach. My back and neck prefers a more upright riding position. Your video answered why I've kept my "current" bike (late 90s early 2000 frame). I've ridden friends modern my bikes many times and never felt the urge/need to buy a modern geometry bike. My bikes components have been upgraded and tweaked to the point that only the frame is original (it's a hard tail). I've never felt that my older geometry prevented me from keeping up with a group. I can see where a more modern geometry would be huge in a bike park setting with steep downhills and flying off big features. But as I have zero interest in that kind of riding, I prefer natural trails and no lifts or lines. So, at least for now I'll stay ooold school and upgrade when I have to.
Opened my eyes a lot, my Trek Roscoe 8 feels like it's always plowing in the corners. Will work on my technique.Thanks!
I thought my Roscoe 8 was just a little lazy.
Thank you so much for making this video! This has really opened my eyes to things I need to work on. I've been riding an older Specialized Rockhopper for the last few years and I just got the Ripmo AF as my first full suspension bike a couple weeks ago and I've been having a hard time getting it around some corners that I've never had trouble with before. This gives me an idea on what I'm doing wrong. Keep up the good work, love this channel!
Get over that front end on that ripmo. Watch this playlist for some more tips. Simon is the best instructon I've found: th-cam.com/video/uKoDhgcV7hk/w-d-xo.html
This video is awesome! Great info. The side by side is the perfect way to show this.
I've always been between a medium and large in most brands and always preferred the large. While I've never had a super slack HTA, I think the longer reach has put me in the middle of the two techniques. The two different descents down that obstacle was eye opening!
I recommend checking reach numbers to determine your size. According to trek, I would be on an XL stache to get the reach measurement I get on a med RSD middle child. So a bike manufacturer's recommendation isn't usually especially helpful.
@@hardtailparty That makes sense. I haven't owned a Stache, but I did own a Farley EX for a little while in an XL and I really enjoyed the feel.
I have a 2019 Santa Cruz chameleon and had thought I might of been using "old school technique (just didn't think about what I was doing) but looked at a video today of me going down a super steep decently long decent 30 - 40 feet straight down, and was surprised to see I had my elbows bent and hunched in a bit on the front
Wow! Seen a lot of videos on the newer body position but I havent really committed yet getting out of that leaned back position. You simply nailed it with your explanation and demonstration. When you showed rolling on a technical stuff even with a slower pace but with confidence. The cornering looks really good too. Will definitely start working on that. Thank you so much.
Thx for the video. Excellent relevant topic! I been riding for over 20 years but recently have transitioned over to slacker bikes. Wasn't thinking about the techniques so this is definitely a wake-up call. Appreciate your channel. Thumbs up!
Thats exactly whts happening to me, i got a Marin San Quentin 2 days a go and the very first trail ride i took it into it just felt super odd...
Thank you for the amazing content.
Those bikes feel odd even with modern technique. My advice is to get a set of riser bars for it (at least 40mm rise), that should fix most of the odd feeling. San Quentins have a super low stack and they require you to be more hunched over than ideal. Once you fix the low stack with a riser bar, you can add some modern technique and unlock that bike's potential.
@@hardtailparty thanks for the tips on the San Quentin! I am building one and will adjust my bar plan. 40mm rise sounds odd, but I trust your recommendation.
I'm riding a San Quentin too, and I have the maximum spacers under the stem and my bars are at the same height as my girlfriend's bars with the stem slammed. Maybe I should swap out the stock bars for a higher rise.
@@davidblackman3127 try a 30 Spank Vibracore 800, best one out there, I tried a couple of bars..(hand fatigue also disapears)
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I've got a custom Marlin 4 with the modern slacker/longer geo and an older SS Bianchi w/ the older shorter geo. I couldn't quite explain why they felt so different until I came across your video! Awesome explanation!
Thanks for making this video. I am loving the geometry of my Karate Monkey. My first serious mountain bike upgrade in nearly 30 years..... I do feel like I am learning to ride all over again.
I'm an old school rider (stl refuse to get a dropper post lol) but found your tips very helpful. Love the channel my friend.
You can still adopt a lot of these techniques with your dropper up, it's just a lot harder. Check out Nino's technique. That dude can hipost better than I can ride with a dropper.
I am more old school too, but seriously get a dropper, it's fantastic
Dude don’t be a curmudgeon- get a dropper. It’s the best invention at increasing fun on a mountain bike.
Embrace the dropper - game changer.
I wouldn't know what to do with a dropper...carry on gents. Keep the stoke up!
I think I’m a maybe in between. I’ve learned the hard way that modern geo requires forward position when cornering. On the steep stuff like in Sedona though I still have a tendency to get back over the rear tire otherwise I feel like I’m going to otb. After watching this though I’m going to try to be mindful of that and try to get down and more forward. Thanks for sharing!
These explanations really resonated for me. I’ve made changes in my body position and have noticed much more confidence in cornering, drops and jumps. And this is on a 1991 GT Avalanche, so proper old school geometry. And I’m passing this on to my little 9 and 11 year old shredders on their more modern hardtails, seems to come naturally to them!
Wow! I change my very old school bike to modern hardtail and I try to ride in traditional way. Now I know what I must to change in my ride technique. Thanks man!
I actually think the new riding style is more neutral, in the bike per se, even though it is more forward relative to the old, behind the rear wheel style. Great video and great side by side comparisons.
Agreed. It works on older geo bikes too.
We need a video on how you cleared that rock feature. What in the blue hell
I'll be creating some mtb technique courses down the road.
Thanks for your excellent mtb content Steve!
Excellent video. I've watched this several times already. Thanks for the overview of the change in the on bike position and overall biomechanics with modern mountain bikes on riding style and technic from old school hardtails.
Thanks Andrew, stoked to hear you liked it! More quality content is delivered in the reg, so might be worth the subscribe if this is something that interests you!
I was an old school, early '90's hard tail rider and didn't know squat about technique (strictly self-taught) but recently, I bought a new hard tail and took it to a 2 day core fundamentals clinic and wow! Before: I couldn't handle switchback turns. Now: with proper technique, much easier. Before: I used to wash out on turns. Now: with proper technique, so much more confident and sticking those turns. Before, I could climb ok, but it was so painful. Now: with proper technique, less painful when climbing and I can go longer uphill. Bottom line: the better one's technique, the better your performance will be on the trail and I dare say, the modern geometry lends itself well to these techniques. Awesome video!
Totally agree! I love hearing stories like this. Sometimes those of us who have been riding the longest need the most help from clinics. It's hands down the best money spent on a bike.
For everyone who really want to improve Go to a pumptrack
And remember to keep your pedels leveled. NO one goes one pedel up, one down, especially not on a pump track or on a bmx...
just like magic! it opened my eyes! i'm a bit of old-school but now i love my 66-degree HA Specialized Enduro even more! Thanks! \m/
Earlier this year I got a Nomad 4 and I always thought it was feeling odd. Started leaning forward and it worked.
The bike feels amazing now!
This really helped, thanks!!! Glad I found your channel 2 weeks ago :p
Awesome! Glad it helps. That's a killer bike, enjoy it.
Nice video man. I’ve been a weekend warrior for 20 years this video was very helpful to me.
This has helped me so much. I came from a 2005 Rockhopper, with about a ten year break from riding, to a newer bike. I felt like I was learning all over again, and was confused and frustrated. Explains so much! Thank you.
Glad it helped! A lot has changed, and the new bikes don't ride like older bikes
This video explained so much to me! As a cross between an Old School and an UN-schooled MTB rider, I've recently gone from a 90's-ish, 26" wheel bike to a late 2000's 29-er hardtail. O.M.G. - it's been a love-hate relationship these past few months. I knew it was a lot longer as soon as I went to put it in my SUV. It doesn't fit unless I turn the front wheel perpendicular to the floor. It's also taller with those big wheels. I feel like I've gone from riding a pony to a giraffe. Just handling it on the ground is a challenge. Trying to take a tight turn has been downright scary. Still - I do like how stable it feels going downhill over bumps, and it climbs better than anything I've ever owned. Your video gives me a new insight as to what I should be doing with my body as I try to master this behemoth of a bike. I've been riding a few stairs, and was trying to sit way back, Old School style. Now I'm going to practice what you demonstrated here, and I hope to become more comfortable riding chunky downhill stuff. Thank you!
Thanks so much for this. After being mostly out of mountain biking for a bunch of years, getting back into it has been a little daunting. Still riding a *steep* (72* head) 10 year old Jamis hardtail, which I thought was great for the technical climbing I like. However, I have never been great on downhill, and have noticed my confidence has been going down the older I get (47). Seeing your explanations and demonstrations of modern geometry has me convinced about going slack and how it would help me a lot towards feeling better on my bike, so I am starting to look into taking the plunge. Modern technology is also showing me the shortcomings of my current bike and how it is probably really holding me back. Thanks, I love your enthusiasm for hardtails and am really glad there is such a following for them still. Cheers.. Alex
That was a lot of fun to watch, great comparison!
I put a 29er on the front of my 2016 Levo noticeably increasing the slack. Since then I’ve found I naturally ride in your modern forward style. Good Stuff Steve. You have become a go to guy for MTB riding (and reviews).
Ha! I was going to agree and over comment with this guy’s post but it was me. 😆
This was so insightful! Beautifully explained and solved my cornering woes
Wow, this was very helpful. Good job dude!
Only been riding for about a year, and now I know I’m a old school rider.lol.. going to work on the new school and see how it feels. Great vid thanks!
Thanks for covering this topic. I thought it was just me struggling with new bike geometry, lol ... I've kinda stumbled into how these bikes like to climb, but I never would have figured out the decents. Thanks very much for the demonstrations!
After riding my 2019 fuse the past 4 months while waiting on a warranty replacement.. This explains exactly why I'm having such a difficult time transitioning back. Can't wait to hit the trails this Friday and dial the body position back in. Cheers man top tier video!
Very informative video, Steve.
It's so counterintuitive to me to get my weight forward when descending, but it's clear to see that it works so much better than my old school riding style.
I shall be trying it out next time I can get out for a ride.
Well I'm definitively old school when I see your position going down these stairs I feel dizzy :) But when I see the modern cornering technique it feels like agressive carving on skis, I love it. Very interesting to hear that a Honzo or and Chameleon are not considered modern bikes. I ride a 26" wheels cannondale with a long stem over the front wheel, and the 29" with short stems and slacker head tubes all seem modern to me !
Very good video. The slow-mo comparison next to each other ist wonderful for understanding the topic.
This is such good advice, I had a massive OTB only about ten days ago because of the techniques explained in this video.
Learned a lot here! Old school rider with an old school bike. Hope I can remember this when I get to upgrade. Enjoying what I would call the expansion of the channel, well done! Stay safe!
Same boat. I ride a 2006 Ellsworth Epiphany. I love the bike, but it’s getting ridiculous when it comes to replacing parts. 26” tires are slim pickings, and good luck finding 26” wheels with QR. I’ll be looking to upgrade soon and I’m thinking hard tail with modern geo, both for their value proposition and capabilities.
Holy moly, I am so grateful to you. The first one who is explaining what the hack “modern geometry” is meaning an what riding techniques are good for such bikes. For me as a beginner it is hard to orientate on the market and find the right bike for the beginning and direction I like to go whit. So a big thanks for your videos 👍😀
Very informative. I didn’t realize. I’m practicing getting over the front more now 👍
Wow man! This is one of the best riding videos I've seen on TH-cam. Excellent content!
Thanks so much.
i love your videos man. i love hearing about your experience from real life
Very educational! I never really paid attention. Simply ride and crash and randomly figure out what fails . I need to attend a skills clinic . Thankyou for waking me up to these ideas
Ecellent video, awesome. Somebody took the time and put this together.
Great video - definitely applies to me. I'll be practicing the new way on my trail bike.
Thanks
Nice. Need more videos like this, like the comparison demonstration.
Great video Steve! One of the best instructional videos I’ve seen in a while. It’s a great reminder to stay over the front. I notice when I’m riding less aggressively I have a tendency to sit back more and my front wheel starts washing out. Can’t wait for the Banshee review. I’m thinking of building one up but I’d love to get your stamp of approval first 😆
Review coming soonish.
Great video. I've been struggling with this new school geo for a while.
Great video, I have been trying to work out where I've been going wrong and this highlighted a few issues! Nice one 👌
Same here, feeling way better when sizing up on a bike. Just got my 2020 roscoe 8 one size up and loving that way.
Really interesting. My main issue with long reach bikes is back ache so I prefer slightly shorter reach, pushing the saddle forward, rolling bars back. But having the front contact patch further in front plus a progressive suspension fork really helps attacking steeps rather than backing off.
Great video, simple explanations to
otherwise complicated subjects.
Glad someone put this in a video so I could show the difference to my wife, great video. I've also found that this translates to my full squish trail bike as well, with the newer geo.
One of the most helpful videos on riding modern bikes in general... hardtail or otherwise.
I love you videos!! Sharing them with all my friends and bike groups because I think everyone needs see you videos! So informative, so fun! I should mention, I only found and started watching your videos after I found your Cotic review videos, no am hooked and will be here permanently, always waiting for your new videos! Thank you for all the time and effort you put into all your videos! ❤️👊💪
Thanks for watching and spreading the stoke.
For someone that owns a bike designed with tecnology from the past decade I find this video very enlightening.
Really good video! Now I understand why I recently felt out of place on these newer bikes. The geometry has changed!
WOW! I've had a STASH 7 2019 bought it brand new. Been riding since 2002. Noticed right away the difference but could describe it. Just knew it was so much better climbing and descending. Recently I've been focusing on basics trying to improve my downhill, climbing and cornering. I've made great progress, but just this week realized the need to focus on getting my chin/head forward. I couldn't figure out why my front tire seemed be "light". Watched other TH-cam videos and help, but yours nailed it. I now completely understand and see the big difference. I live in Las Cruces NM, and we have some of the same terrain. LOVE my hardtail. The simplicity of setup and the + tires are awesome. THANK YOU for you videos. Praying for you health!