This video was a part of my childhood, it is great to see it now be preserved on TH-cam for many years to come. The C&T is a railroad I will eventually visit.
@@RailwayProductions That goes double for me. I would like to visit the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad myself someday. Such beautiful scenery and amazing steam trains.
Great video of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad located in Chama, New Mexico and Antonito, Colorado. On going. It’s another beautiful heritage railroad. Very great. With the beautiful steam locomotives in operation at this narrow gauge 64-Mile long heritage railroad (Even when I have visited this back in July 2nd 2016 and July 3rd 2022).
Surprisingly enough, I had this dvd as a child but never watched it til 2019 or 2020 I believe. I don't know why I never watched it, but I enjoyed it and still do after re-watching this. While there has been some change on C&T since 2021 with the introduction of oil-burning steam when 489 returned to service from its 1472 rebuild. I still think they're worth a visit to see their line, engines, and huge collection of rolling stock.
I actually made a visit to C&T myself this past summer and it was an amazing experience. My favorite parts of the trip was I got to see an engine swap as on occasion when 2 trains are running and meet at Osier, the trains will swap engines and I got to see it happen. My other favorite part was getting permission to go in the cab of the engine I rode for the first leg of my trip and then blow the whistle. I’m definitely making another trip there in the future but will go via the other route/Antonito to Chama as I took the Chama to Antonito route for first visit.
Although I love the blast up the hill from Chama, my favorite part of the railroad is Antonito to Osier. Both for riding and line side photography. Not as easy as the chase up highway 17 out of Chama, but taking the jeep down some goat trail to an out of the way spot all by myself is really nice!
From 48:24 to 48:58, I love the action of the 497 with Cumbres & Toltec lettering, a 14-car passenger consist, and black smoke. If the C&TS is planning on restoring the 2 K-37 steam locomotives in their roster, hopefully, they will also restore the 497.
@@mikeyjasoncampbell9694 I must concur! I am crazy all over 497. I think she's the best on the C&TS when she's doubleheading with another engine, especially the #487 (see 22:47 to 23:06).
I love the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad. #488 and #497 are my 2 favorite steam locomotives. I also love they use Rotary snowplow OY to plow the snow. My favorite instruments 16:44 to 17:05 and 36:15 to 36:55
I remember watching a similar program called Narrow Rails Still Shine, which introduced me to two of the greatest legacies of Colorado railroading. Even as an Australian on the other side of the Pacific, the Rio Grande was among my favourite railroads in my childhood because of that.
I also grew up with that documentary! It's superb and we get to see #497 on the Silverton branch before getting sold to C&TS in 1991 in exchange for the #482!
@ I grew up watching Narrow Rails Still shines on vhs. I have a DVD now. I remember #497 was in the Durango and Silverton. I always wondered how did #497 get to the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad from Durango, Colorado?
As with many others here, this film (alongside many others you’ve made) was a major part of my childhood and was really one of the big things that pushed my love for trains at the time. It’s to the point I visited twice, latest 10 years ago. 487 was our road engine from Chama, 484 from Antonio, 463 with a photo charter I got a glimpse of in Osier. It really means a lot, so thanks for reuploading it to TH-cam.
I have ridden the train over 20 times from 1976 to 2010. And chased the train even more times in both Spring and FAll. FAll is my favorite time of the year. Last time I chased was 2017. Thanks for making this video it brings back many fond memories.
God I used to watch this all night when I was little. Oh how I've missed it. I hope they upload Santa Fe Mainline Memories next. It and this disc was my favorite.
This movie strikes me as odd in the fact I can’t find any other footage or photos of the tripleheader train headed by 484, 489 and 497 respectively. Or any account of it ever happening online. You can see it at 1:1512:0414:0954:3254:45 and 55:26
Amazing Video, I remember seeing clips of the footage here in other documentaries, but this tells the whole thing. BTW, this may sound silly, but do you have plans on putting the Alphabet Train Video by Railway Productions on this channel?
1:14 Note the tripleheader with K-36 484 (in "Cumbres & Toltec" Rio Grande style lettering, K-36 489 (in "Rio Grande" lettering), and K-37 497 (in "Rio Grande" lettering) taken circa 1992-1999 since 497 became a full-time resident of the C&TS in 1992. Any idea of how many passenger cars are needed to mandate a doubleheader, let alone a tripleheader, from Chama to Cumbres?
I estimate around 20-30, since I’ve seen other videos with close up shots and counted. Still trying to find footage if this specific triple header myself
I understand how you feel. I agree about 497 as well, but 497 got her chance to run again between 1984 and 1991 on the D&S and then the C&T until 2002. 492 didn’t get that chance, so maybe it’s best we give 492 a turn. 497 had a sever accident in the 60’s which maybe the cause of the boiler certificate expiring a lot sooner than people expected. If 492 gets running, funny it will be 3 K-37’s in order (491, 492, and 493). I’m not gonna hold my breathe but as long as we keep our positivity and be greatful for anything the railway does to preserve, there always is a possibility 497 could make her return. I hope I make this comment calm and reasonable :)
Definitely NOT a scenic railroad for some. The Cumbres and Toltec “scenic” railroad is anything but that. My wife and granddaughter drove hundreds of miles and incurred hotel fees just to go on this train. There scenic seat was a paneled wall. Not a window. Just a wall. Any reputable railroad would have removed those seats. Nobody goes on a scenic railroad to just look at a wall. Remember some businesses have no ethics and greed reigns supreme. The Cumbres and Toltec railroad is the embodiment of those sentiments. Extremely, quintessentially abhorrent business practice if you’re the unlucky one!
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My father bought the DVD for me to watch when I was 6, Im 18 now and Im proud this lives on in the internet
@@deltaanimations7720 Glad you enjoyed it! C&TS is one of my favorite places.
Same boat as you man! 👍🏼
This video was a part of my childhood, it is great to see it now be preserved on TH-cam for many years to come.
The C&T is a railroad I will eventually visit.
Hope you can visit the railroad someday. It’s probably even better now than when I shot this video.
@@RailwayProductions That goes double for me. I would like to visit the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad myself someday. Such beautiful scenery and amazing steam trains.
I watched this many times on dvd as kid with my grandparents.
Me too! I have this DVD, my dad got me one on my 15 birthday. I’m 30 years old now
I’m gonna love this Railway Productions!, I have a brother from Kentucky that he’s a big fan of the C&TS
You are correct
Shut up
This, along with Pentrex's Great American Train Rides video inspired me to convince my parents to take me on the Cumbres and Toltec myself.
I still have this on DVD. RP is such a golden production company.
I hope one day i will visit the Cumbres And Toltec one day
Me too! Such beautiful scenery and magnificent steam trains!
I own this on DVD! Always fun to watch.
What a beautiful place in New Mexico and Colorado 👍👍👍👍
A really pretty area. If you haven't been, a place for your bucket list!
Great video of the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad located in Chama, New Mexico and Antonito, Colorado. On going. It’s another beautiful heritage railroad. Very great. With the beautiful steam locomotives in operation at this narrow gauge 64-Mile long heritage railroad (Even when I have visited this back in July 2nd 2016 and July 3rd 2022).
Surprisingly enough, I had this dvd as a child but never watched it til 2019 or 2020 I believe. I don't know why I never watched it, but I enjoyed it and still do after re-watching this. While there has been some change on C&T since 2021 with the introduction of oil-burning steam when 489 returned to service from its 1472 rebuild. I still think they're worth a visit to see their line, engines, and huge collection of rolling stock.
I have owned this DVD since I was 8 years old, I absolutely love these films and will continue to for years to come!
yep
I love the Cumbers and Toltec Scenic Railroad
Precious childhood memories right here. I really LOVED the music in this, especially the track at 16:01.
Glad you enjoyed it. When I was making all this, I never really thought of making childhood memories for anyone lol.
@@RailwayProductions Well, that was the magic of old train vids like this from the 90s and 2000s, alongside the classic seasons of Thomas.
@@RailwayProductions you also did with the steam in the seasons series
I actually made a visit to C&T myself this past summer and it was an amazing experience. My favorite parts of the trip was I got to see an engine swap as on occasion when 2 trains are running and meet at Osier, the trains will swap engines and I got to see it happen. My other favorite part was getting permission to go in the cab of the engine I rode for the first leg of my trip and then blow the whistle. I’m definitely making another trip there in the future but will go via the other route/Antonito to Chama as I took the Chama to Antonito route for first visit.
Although I love the blast up the hill from Chama, my favorite part of the railroad is Antonito to Osier. Both for riding and line side photography. Not as easy as the chase up highway 17 out of Chama, but taking the jeep down some goat trail to an out of the way spot all by myself is really nice!
@@RailwayProductions neat
@@RailwayProductions are they public access or do you need an agreement to go down those trails?
@@TNRailProductions_01 they are public access, but some you need really high clearance.
Great video with great background music Thank You !
From 48:24 to 48:58, I love the action of the 497 with Cumbres & Toltec lettering, a 14-car passenger consist, and black smoke. If the C&TS is planning on restoring the 2 K-37 steam locomotives in their roster, hopefully, they will also restore the 497.
I like it too. #497 is one of my favorite steam trains
@@mikeyjasoncampbell9694 I must concur! I am crazy all over 497. I think she's the best on the C&TS when she's doubleheading with another engine, especially the #487 (see 22:47 to 23:06).
@@doublevideos5424 I agreed! #497 is the best too. #488 is my favorite steam locomotive. I’ll be looking forward for #497 restored after #492.
I love the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad. #488 and #497 are my 2 favorite steam locomotives. I also love they use Rotary snowplow OY to plow the snow. My favorite instruments 16:44 to 17:05 and 36:15 to 36:55
Me too, my favorite instruments at 18:52
@@andrewdiesel4014 I love that too
I LOVE the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic railroad! I never get tired of engine number 484's whistle.
NO WAY THEY DID THIS ONE TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome video 🚂👍🚃
Yep
I remember watching a similar program called Narrow Rails Still Shine, which introduced me to two of the greatest legacies of Colorado railroading. Even as an Australian on the other side of the Pacific, the Rio Grande was among my favourite railroads in my childhood because of that.
Me too! I watch Narrow Rails still shine since I was a child. I have those DVDs
I also grew up with that documentary! It's superb and we get to see #497 on the Silverton branch before getting sold to C&TS in 1991 in exchange for the #482!
@ I grew up watching Narrow Rails Still shines on vhs. I have a DVD now. I remember #497 was in the Durango and Silverton. I always wondered how did #497 get to the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad from Durango, Colorado?
Nice video!
me too :)
As with many others here, this film (alongside many others you’ve made) was a major part of my childhood and was really one of the big things that pushed my love for trains at the time. It’s to the point I visited twice, latest 10 years ago. 487 was our road engine from Chama, 484 from Antonio, 463 with a photo charter I got a glimpse of in Osier. It really means a lot, so thanks for reuploading it to TH-cam.
I have ridden the train over 20 times from 1976 to 2010. And chased the train even more times in both Spring and FAll. FAll is my favorite time of the year. Last time I chased was 2017. Thanks for making this video it brings back many fond memories.
Great one! Lots of great memories
Out of all the engines featured in this program, K-36 #487 has the most screen time.
55:13 the music is just beautiful 🥹
God I used to watch this all night when I was little.
Oh how I've missed it.
I hope they upload Santa Fe Mainline Memories next. It and this disc was my favorite.
Glad you enjoy my work! You can see Santa Fe Mainline Memories on VRF.TV.
My favorite instruments at 18:52
I missed it because I was sleeping the whole time
Fun fact: The pacing shot at 28:21-29:25 was also seen in RP’s “The Alphabet Train” and the very first volume of “Lots and Lots of Trains”!
23:16 You can also see the railroad crossing at Coxo from here.
Awesome
10:48 C&TS 2-8-2 had there Nicknames
all aboard the c&ts
i like yuri engine 487 steam train leavening osier to chama new mexico 🚂🚂🚂🚂
All Abord To Cumbers and Toltec
This movie strikes me as odd in the fact I can’t find any other footage or photos of the tripleheader train headed by 484, 489 and 497 respectively. Or any account of it ever happening online. You can see it at 1:15 12:04 14:09 54:32 54:45 and 55:26
I’d actually love to see more footage of that tripleheader, yeah.
Wait where’s the preview for the cumbres and Toltec scenic railroad?
holly the Rio Grande #497
15:11 I guess the Lobato Trestle couldn't take the weight of two steam engines on it.
0:17 what is this song?
Amazing Video, I remember seeing clips of the footage here in other documentaries, but this tells the whole thing.
BTW, this may sound silly, but do you have plans on putting the Alphabet Train Video by Railway Productions on this channel?
1:14 Note the tripleheader with K-36 484 (in "Cumbres & Toltec" Rio Grande style lettering, K-36 489 (in "Rio Grande" lettering), and K-37 497 (in "Rio Grande" lettering) taken circa 1992-1999 since 497 became a full-time resident of the C&TS in 1992.
Any idea of how many passenger cars are needed to mandate a doubleheader, let alone a tripleheader, from Chama to Cumbres?
I estimate around 20-30, since I’ve seen other videos with close up shots and counted. Still trying to find footage if this specific triple header myself
4:05 Pineapple Rag
CUMBRES & TOLTEC what Locomotives are we gonna see.
463,484,487,488,489,497
@@RailwayProductions Yes Andrew what Locomotives names.
@@maxwellwalcher6420Ted, Mikey, Billy, Margo, Bob, and Holly
@@andrewdiesel4014 our 2-8-2s.
@@ianchromebook7262 yes sir
Billy the C&TS #487
Who’s Billy?
Also you just said that Holly was 487, not Billy.
Plus, what is it with these OCs?
11:22 there's N&W #611 J Class
Which engine had the reading 6 chime in this video?
Sadly the C&TS chose 492 over 497, it would be awesome to see 497 run again though!
I understand how you feel. I agree about 497 as well, but 497 got her chance to run again between 1984 and 1991 on the D&S and then the C&T until 2002. 492 didn’t get that chance, so maybe it’s best we give 492 a turn. 497 had a sever accident in the 60’s which maybe the cause of the boiler certificate expiring a lot sooner than people expected.
If 492 gets running, funny it will be 3 K-37’s in order (491, 492, and 493). I’m not gonna hold my breathe but as long as we keep our positivity and be greatful for anything the railway does to preserve, there always is a possibility 497 could make her return.
I hope I make this comment calm and reasonable :)
@@insane_rail_lover I guess I agree!
@@brianfalzon6739same with the 498 and 499. Wouldn’t that be a sight to see
@@nicholasmedovich8691That we can agree on
What year was this video released
Released in 1999, The Last Train Movie of the 20th Century
I have a question. Is this program essentially a re-edited version of "Cumbres!" from 1988?
No this is pretty much a new show shot about 10 years later
Similar footage was spliced into this movie, bc I found the 88 version on YT a week or two ago
@@aphotographerfromcaliforni2661 Hmm I wonder who uploaded the '88 version...
5:19 The Alphabet train
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Definitely NOT a scenic railroad for some. The Cumbres and Toltec “scenic” railroad is anything but that. My wife and granddaughter drove hundreds of miles and incurred hotel fees just to go on this train. There scenic seat was a paneled wall. Not a window. Just a wall. Any reputable railroad would have removed those seats. Nobody goes on a scenic railroad to just look at a wall. Remember some businesses have no ethics and greed reigns supreme. The Cumbres and Toltec railroad is the embodiment of those sentiments.
Extremely, quintessentially abhorrent business practice if you’re the unlucky one!