From Christian to Pagan | Advice and Tips for Norse Pagans Coming from a Christian Background
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0:00-2:25 Intro
2:25-5:05 Holy Book/Sacred Text
5:05-7:22 Ethics and Sin
7:22-11:02 World View
11:02-16:56 God(s)
16:56-19:44 Afterlife
19:44-23:41 Clergy/Priest
23:41-28:09 Places of Worship
28:09-33:19 Holidays
33:19-37:55 Ritual and Practice
37:55-39:01 Closing
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I was a Christian for 16 years. But recently my dad fell deathly ill to the point of being rushed to the ER. I had been following paganism for some time, but I prayed to make a pact with The All Father. My undying faith in this life and the next. So that my father would come home safe. I know pacts are not made lightly with the gods, but with my dad's medical history I felt it necessary. And wouldn't ya know, he came home right as rain as if nothing ever happened. Now I hold true to my beliefs more now then ever. In honor of my father, and The All Father. Skaal.
I’m happy your father is well, you are a good son
My religious history, is similar. My Granpa fell ill, and i don't like the christian and the church, i was rise as christian and now is four years that I believe in the gods and in the All Father thanks also to various events that the norns probably already knew for some time. Skaal brother
You're good 🫡👍
That's quite impressive
Peace and many blessings to you and your family.
I grew up in a non religious household, went to various churches with friends in high school, converted to Mormonism at 19, and left that church about 5 years later. And now I am here! This was a really interesting video, thank you!
Mormonish is not church. Went to ancient churchs. If possible to coptic orthodox churches.
@@greenpulseeducation5002 I am sorry, I don’t understand your comment
A I don't think so,but whatever 🙄
@@nikkimurray8938 What are you looking for in a religion?
@@nikkimurray8938 Mormonism was made up by a known con artist. Everything that makes it Mormonism makes it blasphemy. Just read the Bible and don’t read any of the non cannon scripture until you understand the basics of scriptural cannon. Most Christians know very little about Christianity because they don’t read the Bible.
A subject I am all to familiar with. I was a devout "born again" Christian and involved with praise and worship ministry within the Assemblies of God for 30 years.
My best advice is to take your time & heal from the religious trauma and the loss of deeply held faith. It can be extremely painful to have those roots yanked out. I spent years un-indoctrinating. I wasn't even able to begin looking in other areas for my spirituality for probably 6-7 years after coming to terms with my loss. I did eventually embrace the old ways and gods of our ancestors but I had lingering fears of hellfire for a time. Now, not at all. I've come across a sea of turmoil and can now safely say I know myself and what my beliefs are without any fears. Be easy with yourself and absorb info, be brave when Christian family try to pen you down. If they can be proud of their beliefs then so can you!
I think the more experiences you have walking a pagan path only affirm more and more you are on the right one. Like you said its taken me years too to remove that lingering fear of being "wrong" but it does go away in time!
You weren't born again false conversion. Also hell is real wake up.
@@theymockedjesusalso On the contrary, I had a very deep and real "born again" experience that was sorrowful, repentant and life-changing. I was a hurricane of faith & loved God with everything in me. How else could I have been involved in ministry so long. It was just as real a salvation experience as any other born again Christians', with true repentance and crying out for the Lord to forgive me and wash me of my life of sin and be the lord of my life. 30 years I spent in love with Jesus and leading others to salvation. So yeah, I was every bit as born again, radically saved, spirit-filled, follower of Christ that you are probably claiming to be.
You can think whatever you want to if it comforts you. I've been there and also felt that need sometimes as well. It's not truth but if it comforts you and that's what you need to think, more power to you. However if mine wasn't real, I have some seriously bad news for you, yours is just as unreal. I'm fine with that, as well. Because in the end it is all emotion based, fear, guilt, and control.
@@TempleOvBlackLight however i believe you’ll need to take that up with the apostles and even Christ as its pointed out multiple times
They’re are those whom will say they’re of Christ when in reality they never were. Really apart of Christ as by your words if you’ve really served in ministry 30years it must have taken a massive event for you too lose your faith. As I don’t accept the excuse of this extreme emotional event caused me to lose my faith stick that people normally talk about as you who else had extreme emotional events the prophets of the Old Testament and the disciple’s of Christ they were persecuted for merely believing they were thrown in jail beat flogged hanged killed and so much more and yet even though they may have had doubts they still persevered to the end and if all it took was
Ether one emotional event to break you you were never going to make it in the church as Christ say we’re to expect what I had just mentioned what happen to the apostles but what they did to Christ himself now I’m sure you have your reasons however. I find it ridiculous to lose your faith over things that are temporary and everything is temporary
You having a job is temporary have cars houses food water etc are temporary things even pain is though it doesn’t seem like it at first. So I’m stuck here asking why someone
Would lose their faith over something so ridiculously small when Christ told us you’ll be hated you’ll be slandered you’ll be thrown in jail unjustly accused and then more than likely killed for merely believing on him. So again where you really born again
Or is that what you’ve told yourself to make you feel better? As Lucifer claims to be an angel of light and yet we know he is a deceiver. So as you can see one hides under a false shield of good while the other is actually good so did you really believe at all or did you just say you believed as anyone can say they believe in something and never follow through with it and again I have to ask what was the things that lead up to your leaving? As I understand it you ether are of him totally or your against him Christ makes that very blunt point to everyone your ether with God or where never part of him to begin with and Christ in the New Testament
Outlines this very well to show you who the genuine one are from the fakes the genuine one will go onto death for him and will take all that pain and suffering but will push through it all to the end or you can be the other guy who gives up on trying to be righteous and instead loses himself to the world around him that is all temporary all though fainting something Christ talks about
And say that it takes faith not to faint in this world and to in general follow him I also have to ask what do you have right now do you live in a house apartment a car do you have clothes food in your stomach do you have water to drink if the answer is yes even if you have just a little of these thing your still much better off then most people who have none of those things
@@Followerofchrist221 I never mentioned anything about what caused my renunciation of Christ but it was not a simple, painless, nor a quick decision. It was something years in the making. Then after so much over years of time piled up it took one huge event that weakened my faith just enough to allow me to question those deeply rooted beliefs I held for so many years.
That began another 5-6 years of a bareboned truth searching period trying to hold onto my faith but willing to question things that weren't adding up. Things I would have never questioned before. However, a real truth-seeker will come to a place that even their very strong beliefs are even questionable. If one never has a period like that, then I question whether they are even a real truth-seeker. Truth is truth no matter how much it sucks when it slaps you in the face. It can be painful & having your deeply rooted faith whither & rot and be yanked up is extremely painful. Cognitive dissonance wants to kick in but again a truth-seeker will follow the journey through the thorns, the agony, and not run back to the comfort of his beliefs.
So yeah, I came through the process and am now fully un-indoctrinated or deprogrammed of the cult of Abrahamic religion, namely being an evangelical born again Christian. Men's holy books are just men putting God(s) in a small box of their own defining. There is nothing holy written in any texts whether it's the Torah, Peter, Paul or Mark. Nothing in the Quran, or the Vedics texts. It's all just men probably tripping on mushrooms and trying to relate their experiences to their tribes and those stories got passed down over long periods of time until we end up with Judaism, Christianity & Islam.
I grew up as a pastors daughter and I’m now exploring pagan beliefs and embarking on my own spiritual path. I found this video fascinating! Thank you for sharing!
Best wishes to you, and hope you find the answers you are seeking 🍀
Come back sister .
I grew up in a very religious family as seems that the more christianity is pushed on someone from a young age, the more likely they are to abandon that path as they grow older. My own path has been christian, to Wicca, to agnostic, to Celtic paganism, and finally to Norse paganism. The wonderful thing about paganism to me is the lack of "judgement" both as a person and in the light of how one lives one's life. I find most of the highly intolerant people that I know seem to be the most "Christian", where as most of the pagans and heathens I know tend more towards live and let live. Christianity teaches of their god's love, but gloss over the fact that if you don't "believe" in this one nameless being you get to spend an eternity in a lake of fire, but he is supposedly all loving...
Break his rules?
Burn.
Don't believe in him?
Burn.
Pass, I will no longer worship a nameless God with no connection to my people other than the fact that some of my ancestors were conned into believing his priests.
Hello, Hannah! I think in time you might move away from this channel. I can recommend some new channels to follow when & if you become interested. Have a lovely day!
Agreed@@Thorin7.62. In my case it was because my beloved paternal grandpa passed away. I later learned that in various branches of Christianity and Judaism that there is the belief that interfaith couples won’t be reunited in death. As the daughter of an interfaith couple and the granddaughter of an interfaith couple (my dad’s dad and his beloved stepmom) I am glad I converted to Celtic Wicca.
I grew up Roman Catholic, and yes, a bunch of kneeling and standing up and doing precise things. I went with Celtic Paganism. My Parents switched to Eastern Catholic. When I went to some masses, they had a lot of incense and icons around. My sister stayed with Roman Catholic. Now I consider myself a Norse Pagan. It's been interesting when we get together for family gatherings.
That was Raise Southern Baptist and And I want to get into a Norse Paganism And be part of the religion
As a Norwegian Pagan, I am so proud of you! thank you for spreading out love!
I’m a half Tanzanian guy living in North East, England, the pull I felt to Skadi randomly was just bizarre, I don’t know where it came from, Then I moved into a new home. Everything was good for a few days, then I randomly thought of the word Loki, opened a cupboard in the kitchen and there was just this massive spider sitting there, my first thought was “You tricky bastard”
What does love have to do with Norse paganism?
Yeah our religion is a religion of war and victory not love 😂
Everyone just gonna ignore how freyja is literally the goddess of love? I'm an atheist but I'm pretty sure being one isn't about beating your chest and saying how you're super tough and only care about victory.
@@davidcavan637 Freya is a goddess only women worship, men worship the gods of war and women worship the gods of love and fertility, i admit I’m oversimplifying it but that’s the gist of it
I was raised in a strict Christian household and went to a strict Christian School but I've always had an interest in the Norse Pegan beliefs. I grew up in a state that had many Scandinavian descendants living there, so I was raised hearing the Norse stories and I always felt so connected with them and the culture (I especially liked the stories with Loki in it lol). There was even a point as a teenager where I was considering converting, but due to fear of the Christian community I lived in, I didn't. Recently I've been getting into it again and finally feel ready to go on my own spiritual path. Thank you for this video, it helped a lot :)
Just remeber Odin is a shaggy old guy who lost his eyes can't heal himself and died by getting mauled by wolf you stay the way you are already in right path you are saved by Lord Jesus
I am a Christian and believe in being a Shepard as you said. This video is interesting to watch. Even as a Christian i find it interesting and enjoy listening to other people views on their religious beliefs
jesus loved the sumeritan woman but the church hated her, jesus todl the church they worship the god of this world , wonder what jesus woudl say to 99% of churches today.....
You know if they are finding really large humans in different places like America and I think Poland now. And Goliath. There isn’t much I would think that didn’t happen in long ago. That at first humans did not believe.
The story of fallen angels . They were mighty and the ones that protected the tomb of Jesus were huge.
So long ago there were massive reptiles that had to eat and poop to flourish the world and saber tooth tigers. Then after a while a few homosapiens were born and since there were more of them all the huge things left and were smaller just due to evolving into another
Way to survive.
Real story.
Maybe in the 60’s when things were first wild a girl almost got raped and beat but something happened and the guys got scared off. She wakes up in a bad part of town where there are many who would try to do it to her again. She’s scared but she keeps walking and about a block down she has to pass by a guy that was looking to do what someone was about to do to her. And she started praying for help cause she couldn’t go thru it again and survive. And she keeps walking. She walks right past him and nothing happened. She goes to a police station tells them what happened and that she had walked by this guy. The cops didn’t believe her. So they get the guy to come in. They tell him the story about the girl. And he says I didn’t ever see a girl walk by me or she wouldn’t have been around to tell where I was.
I only saw a that girl go by at this time but she was with two really really big guys. I couldn’t have got by them.
It takes a lot of love and respect to listen to something you may not 100% agree with and still be kind and calm afterwards. God bless you. ❤🫶 thanks for being kind to other religions.
@@NightmareRex6the church doesn't hate the Samaritan woman and the church did not exist in the times of Jesus Christ. The church began at Pentecost
Christians are losers who sell their land to rapist Muslim OCCUPANTS! Only strong pagan men are able to protect the land of their ancestors!
P.S. Christians evolved into Marxists and therefore civilization weakened.
Thank you for your share. I'm new to Norse paganism and was brought up by a Baptist minister grandfather. My uncle is also a Baptist minister. So you can see how hard it was for me growing up feeling like that wasn't the way for me. I'm so appreciative of your videos and experiences you share. Thank you again
I can relate to that. All of Jacobs videos really connected with me.
My great grandfather was a southern baptist preacher, and my grandfather played the piano at his church every Sunday. So I am right there with you!
@@TheWisdomOfOdin yes my gpa was a southern Baptist. It was hard growing up living in guilt,fear and shame because of the teachings. I'm glad I found my path and still finding it with help from you and others
so a American try to educate Americans Christian in Old Norse pagan Christianity is a fraud of Old Norse Pagan water down fraud to be exact Christians. claim they know so much about Christianity but it's funny how topic doesn't come up about Christian There's actually 6 chapters of the Bible not three. I'm not even Christian and I know that the other three chapters have been banned from being printed for over 100 years.
Amen and Aowen 💐
Fellow Kentuckian here, i am just starting my journey and starting to explore, I was raised Roman Catholic, and haven't been happy/practiced for the last 9 years, Ive always been drawn to Norse Paganism and am excited to start down this path
I would like to say thanks for this video cause I come form a Christian family and I have always struggled with my beliefs with Christianity and norse religion
I was raised Christian…but at 16 I discovered Wicca. After 30 years of Wicca I feel a bit adrift. I literally keep feeling a pull to Freya. Something that’s never happened to me before. So I feel that in a lot of ways I’m starting over. Your videos have been such a huge help for me, and I can’t begin to express my gratitude. I’m taking it slow…as mighty oaks were once tiny acorns. I’m so used to keeping a grimoire…so I’m still keeping a journal of sorts. Thank you for doing what you do and for sharing so freely. 💕
WE are ALL connected and it goes much deeper then you think.
Your statement that you were once a Wiccan but now being pulled in another direction…?
Makes me feel so sad for you and many like you who are unaware…?
Let me try and explain this to you, because it’s hard over a TH-cam post.
So many like you are completely unaware, and oblivious to the fact that our MAGIC, our POWER, and our CURIOSITY has already existed for million’s
Because it is sewn🧵 🪡 deep within the FABRIC of our ANCIENT DNA 🧬
We have forgotten over millions of years that we were once one big landmass a supercontinent that connected us all together for millions of years. That your Wiccan Faith has roots in Ancient Australia, and to Egypt. Regardless of what you wanna call it, Norwegian, Ireland, Welsh Germanic roots? Or Druidism Celtic roots it ALL comes outta of ANCIENT AFRICA.
Ancient Africa, India, Madagascar, Australia and Antarctica, Ancient Asia all of these locations have there Roots, and is practiced today. We are just completely unaware of it.
the practices of using Nature to know thyself, knowing how to us nature to practice your craft, all comes from ancient Africa all the way to Ancient Pele, and all the way from the Aboriginal Australians from the outback, to the ancient pyramids All EMBODY you today right now, there ancient knowledge is in you already
Everyone’s familiar with King Tut, and his mother was Nefertiti, she had many beautiful daughters. She married on of her daughters off to a Scottish King, that just an example of how through the many millions of years of human existence, we have passed down rhe knowledge of ancient wisdom, as old as the Volcano God Pele, this curiosity has existed in all of us for millions of years.
Your a combined embodiment of your Wiccan beliefs, as well as Freya and Odin have been within you all along.
That you’ve always had the power within you because this hunger of knowledge is deep rooted within your soul already. Embrace it all, and know that when your working and learning your craft, that he powers within you come from all over the world 🌎
The same knowledge our ancient ancestors carried within them when they crossed that last remaining land bridge millions of years ago. The knowledge and power of Nature, is already with in you, you just have to wake it up, that’s all 😉
No labels needed, you have embodied everything I’ve listed above already, if your a Wiccan then your also an embodiment of all that we’ve listed above already, you just gotta wake it up, and grow the seeds within us that our ancient ancestors planted within us millions of years ago.
Blessed Be 🙏
We are all made of STAR DUST and connected to Mother Earth, to the Planets 🪐 and as one within Nature, are ALL CONNECTED.
@@kellyb1420 thank you? I think 🤔 I’m not sure if you feeling sad for me is an insult…I’m assuming not? Like you said, it’s hard to articulate meaning over a TH-cam post. As a Wiccan I was very eclectic in my practice and my study. I’m fully aware of the interconnectedness between the pagan faiths and spiritual paths. I focused mainly on Celtic and Norse deities, because I felt a stronger connection to them. My feeling adrift and pulled towards Norse paganism in general has more to do with community. I’ve practiced as a solitary pagan nearly all my life. So the pull of Freya has more to do with being pulled towards community, as I had already been practicing and venerating Norse deities. As someone who is half Korean, trust me…I get that there’s an interconnectedness. I find that there’s a Korean deity for every Celtic and Norse deity. I’ve never doubted my power or where I stand with that power and the universe. I’d just rather not do it alone anymore and Freya has been pulling me towards community and shared beliefs rather than floating solo. It’s something I feel I need to do slowly, because it’s definitely unfamiliar territory. So I appreciate your comment, it was quite thoughtful and I appreciate that.
@@KneppwoodatHome ohhh no the exact opposite actually my friend,
There’s so many who forget that before CHRISTIANITY, MUSLIMS, HINDUISM, we forget that we were once all connected, because we were once literally connected by the land. We were one big humongous land mass. That the knowledge of ancient Indigenous peoples all the way from Ancient China, Aboriginal Australia, to here where I am in America we were once all connected,
Freya is within you already your just waking her up, that’s all. ☺️
Druidism, Paganism, and ancient African Voodoo is allllll connected, and it’s sewn deep within you already, that’s all I mean. You’ve had it all along and so have I….
That’s all I was trying to say…? 🙃
Which is hard to communicate all of this over a text message, it’s easier if I had the actual ancient maps that also included the later land mass bridges that existed after our great big continent started to break apart and section off, it would be easier if I could show you the actual maps and bridges to show you how we all came outta of Africa. And this inner knowledge that you seek has been within you all along…that’s all
We are all truly brothers and sisters and are all connected through nature and the Universe. Good luck on your journey and awaking what’s already deep within you 🪐💫🙏☺️
@@kellyb1420 well, thank you 😊 and I agree that many have forgotten. I’ve forgotten how to practice with others. I was once part of a coven. And it was lovely…sort of. But thank you for your insight. Blessings
@@kellyb1420 Wicca is literally a made up religion. It's creator was connected to the creator of scientology.
Am making the jump from Christianity to Paganism and your channel has given me so much insight and education. Thank you for letting me into your day ❣️
I am currently Christian, but due to my traditional political ideology, I am also welcoming Germanic Paganism, and perhaps convert, thank you for your information.
There are a great many hands reaching out to pull you from the darkness and into the light.. I will pray to the Gods for you, that you may grasp them and join the ranks of your true people against this universalist blight, they need you now more than ever before.
I know this is meant for new pagans joining the faith from a monotheistic background, but I think I might show it to my parents because of how well you have objectively compared these very different faith systems and spelled out the basic principles of our faith in a way that’s easy to understand for anyone with a monotheistic background. Thanks for all you do!
Thank you! That means a lot! Hope it helps.
@@TheWisdomOfOdin As A Christian I Love Norse Mythology But I Am Really Worried About Ukraine So I Would Like To Send Prayer To Odin But I Cant So Can You PLEASE Pray To Odin For Me?
@@TheWisdomOfOdin He's My Favorite Norse God
All Christians have Ishtar. I mean Easter. 🐑🐥🐣🐰🐇
I listen to a couple of channels at 1.5 normal playback. You, 0.75. 😆
I love the leaf hitting you in the head as you're talking about "declaring jesus as your savior" lmao . That shows how our gods are humorous. 😂
Tricksy Goddses!
Odin will literally talk about how he got too drunk and made a fool of himself! He's like us. And that's very important
@@TheWisdomOfOdin after this I am interested in christianity more... Idk why..
I was raised Christian, I live in the south, and work at a mega Christian coffee shop. It's so hard for me to be able to express my beliefs, especially as the majority of those I know/work with are so against any other beliefs. I can't tell you enough how relieving it is to hear your words. I found your channel a few years ago and recently really got into listening to your videos and they've helped me so much in working on who I truly am. Thank you so much for making such a wonderful channel, it helps more than you may know. Especially as I'm a rather introverted being and I still haven't exactly found anyone with serious nordic beliefs such as myself here in my city. I study and practice independently, and your videos don't make me feel alone.
I"m only 13 minutes into this video, and I'm so captivated. I just had to stop and say thank you. Thank you for this! I was raised a Southern Methodist, but always felt called to this path. Even as a child. Long story short, at 42 when I no parents or grandparents left to disappoint, I decided right then and there to start living for myself. Here at 45 I have not looked back once, and I have never been happier! Or healthier mentally, physically, or spiritually. My husband doesn't have the same beliefs, but he is 100% supportive. That goes a long way! Now I'm going to continue watching. You are explaining this in a way that I can understand, and that is not easy to do! So again, thanks. I'm a new subscriber for sure!
So happy this video helped you 🙏
Beautifully said. As someone who grew up with a healthy outlook in christianity. Unlearning and learning nordic cultures and studying and working with the ancestors is just fresh air. Thank you.
Hi Jacob. I recently found the path to Odin through a long-lost brother I didn't know I had. I grew up Christian and was baptized and confirmed but I lost my faith and my way after not being able to cope with my depression and the emotional abuse from my parents. I never felt a real connection with "God", but after finding the path to Odin all I can tell you that the Norse Gods are real! I moved way up near Canada from the cities and now work at a bait shop and was letting the Gods know that I will soon give them a proper offering and about 2 hours into my shift a little boy comes asking for a "handful of minnows" for his pet turtle, I gave him a scoop for free and his mother says, "say thanks Odin." Yeah, his name was Odin. And I felt their presence and I knew the Gods visited me at work, Thor stopped by the next day. Some random dude I've never seen before had runic tattoos and he complimented me on my Mjolnir I wear. Anyways I'm rambling on. I've learned much from you Jacob as well. Keep up with these wonderful videos and I look forward to supporting you anyway I can
Thank you for this video! As someone who attended church four five nights a week in childhood, I was having a hard time wrapping my brain around Norse paganism. Turns out I've always aligned more with paganism. Christianity limited God too much to be able to call him all powerful. Thank you for the breakdown. Definitely subscribed
I wish you luck in your endeavors and building your Norse Pagan Ministry. It's never an easy thing to do. no matter what your religious faith is. You do much good in the world And I believe that you are very sincere. I love how you go through a lot of meticulous effort to keep your facts strait, cite references. do research and show objective viewpoints. I love how uplifting your channel is. I have never seen you put other faiths down or get into a doctrinal pissing match with other religions. This is perhaps your most powerful tool in converting others.
I live in Utah, the United States. I wish I could go and be back east where you exist and come to some of your gatherings. I wish that I lived in an area where I could meet up with other pagans. Just know that your channel has been very uplifting and has made a big difference in other peoples lives, including my own.
What's tragic is I actually do live near other Pagans in the US, but they tend to just be too busy and don't actually want to do anything. I have suggested numerous times that we just start with casual get-togethers and tried to set the bar low to make it easy. It's straight up brutal when all these fake religions and open con artists have their huge megachurches and real people interested in the truth can't seem to get anything at all, but we truly live in a tyrannical and corrupt age, facilitated at every level by both big corporations and governments, as well as other corrupt private interests motivated to control and enslave others. It seems the only thing holding the System together is being completely against honor and any kind of consistency whatsoever. I think there is hope as long as there are Pagan QTs though.
I love and appreciate the format you do your videos in with history, facts, and opinion all being included. Like so many others, there's no one in my life that shares pagan beliefs or practices and it's really nice to hear a friendly voice involving paganism. Makes it where I don't feel so alone in the beliefs. Thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video; I've been a norse pagan for a almost a year now coming from a catholic background. This really helped me gain a better grasp on things and now I feel like I can better honor the gods and my ancestors as well as myself!
A weird video on TH-cam caught my attention just a couple of years ago. It started with Maria Franz tapping those bones together. I had never seen the like.
Fast forward, the Lifa concert by HEILUNG (German for healing) is my favorite go to in the medicine space.
To others seeking…find that music that resonates and explore it in different states of mind. It will speak to you. The groups he mentioned, HEILUNG and Wardruna are a great place to start. My favorite aspect is that there is very little English lyrics so it keeps me out of my verbal logic circuits.
th-cam.com/video/5aKl4NoVwzo/w-d-xo.html
@@INFRIAS Nice! I saved it to a playlist. I don’t usually click links in TH-cam comments, but. I felt sure this was something good.
@@BartzAJohnsonJr Send Me Your Favourite Music Sometime 🔊🎶🔥
I’ll Listen 🤘
Great job covering these subject without any hard lines in your explanation.
So many can only explain things from a ridged world view.
Keep it up man
One of my favorite videos so far. So much information. Thank you.
Thank you for making the video it came from being Catholic to practicing Norse Paganism nearly a year and this video helped out a little bit to understand certain things
I think Christianity adopted a lot of Norse pagan holy days for instance Christmas is referred to as Yule time and ester the spring hare is associated to Easter in the eggs and all the stuff that kids go find as well as Halloween and the Christian holiday the very next day it's all blended into one thing but I think now people are starting to realize that there is actually more than one God.
Catholicism* adopted pagan beliefs. The Bible does actually slightly hint at other spirits, "gods" if you will, but we worship the King of Kings, the ultimate Creator.
This was an amazing video. Thank you for this. 🖤 I’m only 2 yrs into my path of paganism and I struggle to find answers to everything you touched on in this video. I appreciate this so much. Thank you!
Some great points that very few others bring out, but are so important. Spectacular job on your reflecting and on your channel!
This video was very informative and highly enjoyable. I learned alot and have more tools in the box to help me on my journey in being Norse Pagan. I'll be sure to check out more of your content. Again, I appreciate what you are doing in helping guide former Christians such as myself to understanding Norse Paganism. May the gods keep you in favor and confidence.
Excellent discussion on this topic! I think it will help clarify a number of challenges for Seekers. I'm an ex-Jehovah's Witness and when I began my Pagan journey I wasn't sure what I would find in Pagan practices. It's definitely looser and not so hyper focused on ideological conformity on every single point. The most refreshing part of my journey has been able to have deep spiritual conversations without going into them with a foregone conclusion. It's also a great comfort to have come to the understanding that the gods are never far away from us--neither are other spirits and our ancestors.
I agree, the spiritual conversations I have with people with varying forms of belief are one of the best parts. Because in the end we both walk away enriched, while not feeling like we are wrong to believe what we do.
Paganism is a future development .....
I think this video would even be useful for people coming from a secular background as well. Since regardless of whether or not you were raised in a religious household, your preconceptions about religion as a whole are likely heavily influenced by the mainstream monotheistic religious institutions which are culturally ingrained into our society.
While I began with Wicca in the 90's after breaking out of Pentecostalism, my explorations took me to several cultures, traditions, and paths as I sought access to the Divinity I could feel within. I just recently re-ordered my altar as I noticed I was still operating on Wiccan principles, even though I moved from it long ago. Wicca, since at least the 90's, has found its way into a lot of other traditions' modern interpretations. I find myself going more in the Animistic direction, just interacting with the consciousness of things more than their physical vehicles or their symbolic representations. Sometimes I light some sage and waft the smoke around, and other times I call to the Spirit of Sage to cleanse the space, and I find that they are 2 different ways of doing the same thing for example. Doing so led me to an interaction with Freya that I did not seek, but was positive. So, as I find that "all things have a conscious Spirit" and learn how to communicate, I also find that Gods are real and (in my experience) prefer to be spoken to like you would a friend. This is where (it seems) christianity still has sway on pagan thinking, as so many pagans do the "I said the prayer and made the offering so the Gods will like it and hopefully do what I ask in return" thing and little to nothing else. It's like we're talking AT the Gods instead of TO them, and I think that's a holdover of christian thinking. We need to be living our connection to Spirit and the Gods, as beings of equally Divine potential, not just quoting it by the fire a few times a year. With a real connection to Spirit, by knowing your own, you will hear what the next right step is. You will know the Gods, not by researching them in books, but by a direct relationship that nobody can tell you is incorrect. Teachers, traditions, and texts can point us in the direction of that connection, and can tell us some of what awaits when we do, but the connection is still our responsibility to build for ourselves. At least, that's some of what I've learned so far. Take or leave as you choose.
I'm an ex Catholic turned polytheistic pagan fresh out of the broom closet and I still have much more learning and growing to do
After graduating from Catholicism in my 20s I eventually explored Wicca and Celtic paganism before finding Hellenic polytheism a religious framework that resonates very deeply for me. Your excellent video exploring the differences between Christianity and Norse Paganism offers some keen insights that people new to whatever practice or pantheon of Paganism may struggle with. The chapter on Christian vs. Pagan worldviews is insightful and clear. Thanks so much for posting these excellent video explorations.
Wow you did such an amazing job with this video and put in so much hard work thank you so much
Thank you very much, Jacob for this video. It can be really helpful for everyone getting into this religion and for those in the path already to find a path to follow. Thank you once again.
By the way, coming from a Catholic brackground, I do see a lot of similarities between the cult of Saints and that of pagan deities. I always find that transition fascinating.
This! This is the video I needed thank you thank you so much!
I appreciate you. Very informative & educational. Thank you!
I’ve learned much. Thank you so much for sharing! I can’t wait to watch more of your videos to learn more! I’m very new to this and have been struggling to find information or other norse pagnas
New to the faith, this video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for sharing your knowledge brother.
I was a Christian for my whole life untill yesterday and have chosen to be Norse Pagan. Your vids have helped me because I had the questions of "Bible" and "church" and how you follow Norse Pagan and I thank you for your help.
Wow going from Christian to Norse pagan literally overnight? Wow probably the fastest conversion ever. It took me at least 2 years to finally accept that I was an atheist.
@@metaldave08096 no, my apologies. I left out the 4 years ive spent researching a bunch of religions and beliefs and learning multiple cultures and when I came across Norse Paganism I just kept diving deeper and deeper and in the past year and half I have been digging into Norse Paganism and the night I made that comment was the night I finally accepted that I was no longer believing in my false god and I fully believe that Norse Paganism is where I belong. Sorry about the long comment
I have been watching quite a few of you videos here resently. First off thank you for making your videos.
Thank you for making this video!
Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
As a recovering Catholic and a budding Norse Pagan, I find your videos very helpful. Born with an insatiable curiosity, I have read on First Nation spiritual beliefs, Buddhism, Islam and Judaism, Greek and Roman beliefs, nothing has really resonated with me like Northern European paganism, Norse in particular. Thank you.
This video was so great! I was raised Catholic but over the past couple years I’ve converted to pagan beliefs. It was only a few months ago it was specifically Norse pagan beliefs. Thank you so much for all the information- really just solidified everything I believe in. ❤
Thank you for this video!
Comparing an entire culture with a "Religion" you go visit once a week is definitely something I have found difficult. It's just so different. Thank you again for posting these! I've been CRAVING my ancestral past since having my son.❤
Many people adopt other religions as a new coat of paint on the same old structure because they haven't truly left the initial mindset. If anything, modern Christianity is designed to deaden the mind and act as a replacement for spiritual thought, rather than being a source of it.
I think even those who wish to remain Christians need to re-discover what that means. Deconstruct it, tear it apart, put it to the test, and then eventually you will find what you've lost.
As a Christian pastor in training, I have to say I agree with you. Practicing Christianity should definitely be about constant spiritual deconstruction and trials, not being complacent and self-satisfied.
I know I'm commenting on older videos, but I'm so glad I finally ignored those reddit idiots and started watching this channel. Im learning so much more now. Thank you Jacob.
I will never understand reddit 😂
I’m struggled with Christianity. It never gave me happiness even as a kid, I was born into a very alternative open actually loving/accepting Christain household (except my dad being very conservative. My mom is super liberal. My mom presents to be right for my dad.). My aunt is a Christain witch, all of my mothers family members are super into spirituality and there being other Gods even though they’re Christain. They still had that christain mindset though, just modern and open. It made me feel comfortable being myself. I came out as a witch to my mom and she said “as long as you’re a Christain witch and when you look into the darkness, be sure to have smoke and draw a circle of protection.”
I’ve accepted these terms for a few years yet more then ever I feel the knot of Christianity untying more and more everyday. I love the idea of religion still and seek a religion that allows me to feel happy. So far eclectic paganism, Wicca, and Norse I feel the most drawn towards. I plan to meditate, look for signs, and research into it all. Your channel has been a huge help for me! Thank you so much!!
I think a lot of people appreciate what you're doing I'm one of them. To keep up the good works
Id like to attend a gathering. Im from SW PA.
Love what you said about sacred trees. They are inherently special, doesn't have to be ordained specifically.
I'm Irish/Scottish/North Sea German, so some mix of Norse/Celtic, so I tend to mix traditions, but there is definitely a tree outside my apartment I celebrate with whenever the time comes for Blos/Blot Thanks, Buddy
Thank you for tackling this minefield of a subject .
i was a jehovah's witness for 20 years so i can really feel the trauma that a change of deep beliefs can cause .
i am totally free of this now and finally know who I am .
everything evolves and so our recreation of pagan life cannot be a perfect replica as we don't know enough of the old ways.
but being ourselves and real and honest in our approach will eventually help us to heal.
For the Clergy section, I'd like to quote Germania by Tacitus, this sentence is talking about the kings (but hey gothis are political leaders as well) but I'm going to count it.
"But even the power of the kings is not absolute or arbitrary. As for the leaders, it is their example rather than their authority that wins them special admiration- their energy, their distinction, or their presence in the front of the line." Germania 7
Historically, leadership had to prove itself among the Germanic people. So if you find a leader who has proven themselves to you, follow them (within reason, don't go culty). If not, don't follow anyone.
Thank you for all your videos. They've really helped me in my journey from a conservative episcopal background to returning to my ancestral roots. I have always been drawn toward my German/Danish ancestry since i was a child. Look forward to your next video. BTW, I've also admired your Mijolnir pendant. My I ask where you got it?
The biggest mistake I’ve ever made was becoming an atheist. I’ve completely sucked the mystic out of life and no matter how hard I try, I can’t get it back. I envy people who can sincerely have faith.
I think a nice place to start with bringing a mystical element back into the person's life is to acknowledge that magic and science are one in the same. Science is just the magic that we can explain, just because we know what's going on doesn't make it any less magical, as well as the inverse; just because we don't know what's going on that doesn't make it mythical and less real Xx
Thanks!
I been on my journey for 5 years when I seen the vaggisr in ally when I was homeless in Vegas I was drawn to it in my soul so I started learning and Odin has been helping me find my way. Hail the gods. I was a baptized Christian found out I was taken from England taken to Norway and two generations later I am in the Norse linings . I feel drawn to the forburg settlement
Being raised as a Christian mutt (Catholic Dad, Lutheran Mom, mostly Baptist school), and a current practicing Zen Buddhist, I found this very helpful. I'm having a really good time learning about the Old Gods!
LOL - the church bells ringing during your video - they are calling the faithful away from you 😂
❤ Thank you 🙏🏼
You are looking healthy, fit, and Viking.
Thank you,very interesting..Nature really is The sacred place!
Thank you! I have been raised Southern Baptist Christian. But I feel a calling to norse paganism an want to learn everything I can.
We all walk our own path, others cannot walk it for you.
Hey that's downtown Lexington! Hello from mt.sterling!
We just had a gathering in Mt. Sterling actually!
i was brought up southern baptist... but also had questions that no one could answer, nor the so-called bible... started norse belief at age 28 after years of trying other faiths... 50 years old now
Well said
I love the Ben Kenobi representation of Yeshua. This is awesome instruction for individuals searching for the extended universe. Thank you. BTW I was a Mormon descendant from the original founders of that church (Heber C. Kimball) that found that my great grandmother and father were from Upsala. Through the Mormon practice of genealogy and baptism for the dead, I discovered my ancestry (which my parents hid from me unfortunately). I am proud to have Nordic ancestry and learn from you and others the belief's of my ancestors. I will keep searching for more individuals, or practice alone if need be. Thank you for your information.
I'm 44 a wife mother grandmother and life long Christian. As of late I'm what you would call a deconstructing Christian bring drawn to the beliefs of my ancestors. I'm tired of the If your not Born again, if you don't believe in Jesus ONLY your going to Hell Nonsense. Even the Bible says he'll was for Satan not humans. I'm just tired of the dogma trauma and pain.
Greetings, what bit of the Bible sayeth that?
@Cress thou nee canst truthen that.
@@farfandelosgodos1681 Mathew 25:41 Hell was prepared for the devil and his fallen.
@Cress thank you for the kind words. I am not rejecting Jesus or the Bible in all. I believe it's been twisted and manipulated to control the masses. Used to even destroy our Norse/Germanic Ancestors ways by force not choice. I don't claim to know it all all I claim is thar I'm seeking first truth and then peace.
Well that's your slave religion in a nutshell lmao
I grew up into a Catholic house hold, I was baptized in my teens but i never could feel a connection. I was mistreated under the guide of Christianity and I fell out of it. I recently have been feeling drawn to Norse Paganism. I recently started considering myself a Norse Pagan and have done my first offering. I started watching your videos recently and this feels like something I belong with. Thank you.
i had an abusive catholic family and my mother was very hostil to me when she knew my passion for Paganism, my mother beat me when i told her i wanted to become a Pagan... I understand your feelings and i do hope you find happiness with your new Pagan life
@@pedrosilvasouto7320 sorry to hear that, I can't say I experienced that kind of abuse because of it but more so emotional. I could never understand how anyone who practice Christianity could use it as a weapon to hate on others because they are against their views. but yet God created everyone equally. I am looking forward to exploring my new beliefs.
As a non Christian and a non (European) Pagan (Hindu), I wonder how exactly a person brings themselves to practice a revived ancient belief. Do you believe in Thor or Odin the way Hindus belive in Vishnu or Shiva? These modern (european) paganism is interestin coming from an follower of an Eastern religion.
Western Pagans tend to study European history and Hinduism to get a better understanding of how the ancients believed. Hinduism is the last remnant of any religion related to the Indo-European ones.
@@sponge5196 Hinduism is also a desendant of the Proto Dravidian religion. European pagans must make sure to distinguish between the the Indo European parts of Hinduism from the Non Indo parts. Unless they want to explore those areas.
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It’s complicated to describe, but yes I’d say there is some overlap with Hindus and how you worship, to some degree although we don’t have the same beliefs entirely. Any serious reconstructionist pagan studies early vedism, to “fill in the gaps” so to speak for things we don’t know, as it’s a piece of the greater indo-European puzzle. But as in how we come to believe in it, I think any true believer starts from a perspective that they want to have a more naturalistic spirituality, as opposed to exoteric, anti-human nature Christian spirituality. So we look to what our ancestors did before Christianity, and seek to emulate it, and pick the embers from the ashes and try to relight the flame.
@@monkeymoment6478 Vey insightful. Thank you!
The most of the heathens seeth the heathenhood with a eyes of a christen...
Always informative and helpful, thank you
CS Lewis, Tolkien and GK Chesterton were relatively sympathetic to paganism especially Norse paganism.
This never was an issue for me. I just went with what I felt. Most people try to fight what they know when they’re younger, and try to justify their reasons. If one is attracted to the Christian belief, then great. Follow it! You can always expand your beliefs to incorporate things/parts. In reality, just don’t fight your essence and mentality.
Thank you so much for this video. I, like many others, was raised in a Baptist home. Turned to witchcraft in my late teens and I still don't really have a true direction or path. I recently discovered through a DNA test I am German, and have been interested in Norse/Germanic mythology as a way to connect to my roots. But I think the hardest thing for me to let go of is all of the first hand accounts of people who experienced heaven or saw Jesus. I've listened to testimonies and read books of people who have died and went to heaven, or died and went to hell. Stories of possessions or demonic entities. Did you experience any similar issues or complicated feelings before you converted?
I have exactly the same thoughts. Finally someone else said what I have been thinking. I too have seen and heard so many accounts of people who have had near death experiences and experienced Jesus, hell, or God as Christianity understands him. It's difficult to reconcile this. Especially when you really listen to these accounts... Many of them are far to detailed and earnest to be simply made up. Many times they speak about experiencing a reality that makes ours look like a hazy dream.. I have yet to hear or read any accounts of near death experiences with Pagan concepts of any kind. I have looked and will continue to look. The only explanation I have is that we see what we believe to be true, if raised in a Christian society we see a Christian God etc.
Same here :0
@tawnilamb3223 I died during a C section, and did not see either heven or hell a place with other spirits, calm, no feelings, emotions, and was sent back down to my body which I did not recognize, or my family. The spirit above me who I could not see explained everything. When I came to I was in SO MUCH PAIN! Personally I am not afraid of death, and I don't think any of that crap is real. ❤
I don't know, but there sure are a lot of big lies going around.
I was a "born again" Christian and it never felt right to me! I even tried Catholicism and the rituals were to me much like Witchcraft ( a term we are never allowed to accept) I have just stumbled upon Paganism and it finally feels like I am home. I have always felt one with nature, the seasons, earth cycles etc. "craving in religion" is such a great term! Thank you for this video!
Hi, thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowlegde. I grew up as a Jeovah's Witness for many years to be honest with you, but i've never believed it. Took me a lot of years to understand i was in that religion to please my family so they wouldn't be mad at me. It has been already 2 years since i quit. I can finaly say i don't believe in any religion. But i love a lot the Norse Mythology to be honest. I wouldn't say i believe in it but i admire a lot😊😊😊
Same boat. Grew up in JW family, left all of that. So difficult to detach from everything we've been brainwashed since toddler. I guess the best conclusion I came up with is you can have a certain faith, your own beliefs and understanding, without trusting any religions. I think that anything that connect myself with my own spirituality, understand and respect the world makes me a better person.
@@SquishyMochi514 I agree with you, it ain't necessary to be in a religion to have faith in something or someone. I really do believe basically all religions are a big cult, created by powerfull people to control others and divided them so they can't rebell against those in power. A comedian called George Carlin speaks about all of this with a bit of comedy. You can find them, they are called "Religion is Bullsh*t" and the other is "The 10 Commandments". It's really funny, but also true. It was great sharing this info with you.
Majority of Christians don't even know that "the father" has a name other than "God".
I have always found it difficult to find out how to do holiday ceremonies. Seems to be very little information on how the were celebrated. I just do what feels right but I still worry that I am doing it wrong.
Thank you for this I'm a Christian thinking about coming over to paganism
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Just a fact here in the Netherlands we still call Thursday donderdag wich thunder day so the day of Thor just a fun fact. And in germany at Teutoburger Wald there is a cave where they held rituals check it out very interesting
Thanks for your video as some that was force feed Pentecostal Christian. I am now find my self being drawn to Norse pagan . So this helps
Where did you get your sacred arm ring?! Really wanna get one!!
Really thankful for this video. My concern is what about those that go from atheism to Norse paganism? Going from science backed thought to this seems like a massive challenge.
I cane to paganism in the year of 1997. Look at a few books on witchcraft celtic and norse really to be true it was a lot of books and it cost a lot of money but after all that i just followed my heart and loved all of the wot the gods have given you and just go with it and do it your own way and love it all it a wonderful way to live and go out there and go for it dont give up its a lot of work at times but in the end you will see it all bless it be ❤
I've read a few books about Asatru, and I've watched videos about Norse paganism on TH-cam and it's all very interesting. One thing I haven't seen anyone talk about though is why they believe in Norse paganism. I've seen a lot of information on the history of Norse paganism and some information on the gods and the basic ideas of how to practice Norse paganism, but no information on why people believe in it. I would be very interested in hearing more about that.
Ah, you mean like my video called Why Norse Paganism ;D
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or my other video Why Paganism? What do the Gods do for us? ;D
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@@TheWisdomOfOdin Very nice. I'll give them a look.
Thank you for this. I am somewhat Christian/norse pagan. I see a lot of things that have aspects of christianity and norse pagan stories that are the "same" or "similar"... hanging on tree/cross for example so many things have been just natural for me to pick up. I feel more confortable in my norse pagan beliefs and I have three of the books you mentioned. Prose edda, sagas of the icelanders and the hamaval. But yet to read them.
I am in on living and enjoying life :) Belive in good is my thing. Hei å hå.
Now I can understand between two different religious thank you I rise my Christian family but I want which in pagan
Lost my faith in christianity after the death of my grand Farther when I was around 8/9ish then later my aunt when I was around 11/12. Currently 17 and talking to a friend about celtic paganism and it's genuinely intruged me to look into it more as I all I am at the moment is an atheist who believes in spirits and ghosts.
I think about in a bit of an esoteric manner. I think that Source/the Universe comes to us in the manner that will best put us on the path to realize (as in actualize) our destiny, and different gods are different aspects of Source that are recognizable to us dense humans. The universe answers the deepest desires of our subconscious. For some that's Christianity, for others that's polytheism, for others it's Atheism, for others it's New Age. No matter what it's part of our journey, part of learning and gaining wisdom and grappling with our traumas and inevitable deaths. For people who crave unconditional love and reassurance, Jesus is good for them. For those who want self empowerment and want to integrate themselves within this material world in a spiritual way, Odin is good for them. For those with a lot of burdens "attachments", Buddha is probably good for them. It goes on and on. With that said, I also have a suspicion that all of these gods use us as their puppets for their own supremacy against each other, lol.
Going with the flow is the point.
Misunderstandings that I observe especially among pagans with a monotheistic past:
- See the Edda as a central element
- Following one "Patron god", and the other gods play a supporting role.
- See the gods as higher beings and not as metaphors.
- Make offerings in the house and forget that the offering must be accessible by nature
- Land spirits play a much more important role than gods
I think it’s inaccurate to say some of these are a “misunderstanding”, especially with seeing gods as higher beings. I think the personified gods we know are metaphorical (although there is much value in these personified forms), but to relegate gods to just metaphors is not paganism. Even the platonists/neoplatonists believed the gods were higher powers (Henads). And historically, it’s probably accurate to say that land spirits and ancestor veneration was much more of a common personal practice than worshipping greater deities, although I won’t say it was more important. Everything else I agree with though.
I’m scared on which path to follow. That of The Redeemer or the All Father. I was raised in a catholic household and was shown the ways of Christ. But I fear that he has abandoned us. While I was thinking of Norse Paganism at school a crow landed directly on my table, the bird sat for several minutes unbothered until lunch ended, then it stared at me for a few seconds before flying off which I believe was a sign from Odin. But some prayers to god have favored me in the past. I don’t know who to follow..
You did really well with your explanations. As the christian missionaries tried to make an end to the pagan worldview, many aspects of the ancient pagan life were creeping secretly into this new "religion" and can still be identified there.
I think what is most important to us today - and what you made very clear - is the feeling and also the knowledge that everything in nature - in the whole universe has a soul, is animated as you say. The majority of the people today are so overtaken by the digital and technical view of things, that - scientists!! - think the universe is a kind of big machine, originated by chance!! I would say the theme "God" and the Gods" could best be explained that both realities exist at the same time. The ONE GOD is expressing itself through a l l of Nature and the many Gods are His or Her aspects manifesting in more subtle realms of God-created nature. We could say the gods (plural) represent the will of the divine Oneness - of the One God. They represent all His or Her qualities - and therefore we have so many gods.
So, when we want to achieve something we usually do not right away go to the "boss" of the enterprise, because this might be difficult. Depending what it is, we make contact with one of his managers or department heads. They could even become very good friends of ours and be helpful to us.
BUT - and the but is very important here - if we have the blessing of the boss his managers will help us much easier and more efficient. How to get this blessing? I am sure that all the early pagan people had this feeling of wholeness - a feeling of being surrounded by a holiness which never can be explained in words, because any such word is already breaking this holy Wholeness. Its on the feeling level, on the soul level, on the love level. So, we can consider it a mystery existing beyond our intellect and understanding.
Thank you for what you are doing.