I LOVE Zenyatta, Seattle Slew, Ruffian, Affirmed, Allydar- all of them!! That 1973 Belmont will never be beaten- it is, without any doubt, THE greatest athletic performance, by man or beast, in the history of the planet- the greatest athletic achievement bar none and will stand for eternity- to think differently is to be a f-0-0-l!
Absolutely! I watched that race live with my Dad because of all the hooplah surrounding the media as otherwise we never woulda watched it because we weren't into horses or racing. Tell you what I teared up. Anderson was right that record will NEVER BE BEATEN. there are a few others that will PROBABLY never be beaten as well... Roses all time hit record and Bonds walk AND HR records. Although they do play more games now. Ty Cobbs lifetime BA is another one. But Secretariat's 2:24 in the Belmont? NO WAY! No horse has come within 16 LENGTHS of that record in 50 YEARS! And some of the wins since he would have beaten the winner by 50 LENGTHS! Some other tidbits about that race. Every 1/4 mile was FASTER than the previous one meaning he was still ACCELERATING when he crossed the finish line! And Turcotte never touched him with the whip. Absolutely UNREAL! Another thing that blew me away was Secretariats incredible acceleration in the Preakness on that first term. I noticed it before Anderson did because I was only watching Secretariat. When I saw that I could not believe it. They'll NEVER be another Secretariat, folks.
I always thought that Tiger Woods’s 2000 US Open was the most dominant performance I had ever seen by man or beast. But after gaining the knowledge of Secretariat’s performance and watching it for myself, I think I have to tip the hat to Secretariat. It may be because I’m an animal lover, but no matter the reason I still feel how I feel. Tiger Woods didn’t just make the golf world look like fools, he revolutionized the game itself in just one tournament, but that was nearly expected at some point in his career. What Secretariat did on that day and how he and his rider did it, were earth shattering and mind blowing to EVERY single person in the world of horse racing. It wasn’t supposed to happen, so it gets the little nudge it needs to top Tiger’s 2000 US Open.
I love all of them too. Spectacular Bid and Native Dancer are the greatest horses that never won a triple crown. But no horse on this earth could have beaten Secretariat on that day in 1973.
Considering that he won the triple crown in 1973 and EVERY one of those records STILL stand to this day as well as that 31 lengths by which he won the Belmont speaks for itself!
Yes I agree but my favorite is a horse named whirlaway he raced and one the triple crown that year the Preakness was run 1 week after the Kentucky derby lin addition to that he won the Travers stakes up in the graveyard of champions it was coined that after Secretariat lost that race but yes what big red did in triple crown we may never see in our life times again and if you look in the record books the belmont in 2 24 and in perentices it. Says Against the wind in the backstretch wow
I was at the Preakness when Secretariat won on way to Triple Crown. I’ve never witnessed a horse accelerate like he did going around the first turn. He wasn’t passing claimers, he was blowing by the best of the best. Just an amazing display of power. Like others have said to judge the best one only has to look at times in races
I have watch horse racing for over 60 years now, there have been a number of great horses but Secretariat was in my opinion head and shoulders above the rest! What a horse he was!
She was good but she never won a triple crown. Secretariat won all three races in record time and belmont by 31 lengths that still stand to date. Secretariat is the best horse ever.
Gotta agree with the crowd: Secretariat by a country mile. Zenyatta was good--as were Citation, Cigar, Forego, and numerous others. But Ruffian was extraordinary--she equaled or broke the track or stakes record every time out except one; well, and the one she didn't finish. And in almost all of those races she was under restraint--Jacinto was under orders NOT to let her run as fast as she could. Ruffian was more like 16.3hh, by the way--she was huge. Her girth as a two-year-old was bigger than Secretariat's. No secret, I love all great fillies--I'm a girl, lol! But Secretariat stands alone. He was a stone-cold freak of nature, and no horse will ever best him, not in a million years.
The triple crown is not the end all, be all of horse racing. At all. It's a championship for 3 year olds. Cigar never won the triple crown either. Zenyatta is a Queen! Not only did she win the Breeder's Cup Classic, but she went undefeated for 19 races and placed for her last and only loss. She ran 2nd. She was beat mearly by a head. She went out there and beat the boys in the Super Bowl of racing. She's a star!
Arianne Winkler: Zenyatta is definitely, IMHO, the second-best filly/mare ever. Ruffian, though, is THE best by far. She was poetry in motion, and she was almost always under restraint when she ran--her trainer was afraid to let her run wide open. Who knows what she could have accomplished had she not destroyed her leg in the match?
For those of us who saw Secretariat run, or were present when he won the Belmont by 31 lengths, it will be hard to believe there was a horse as great as he.
@Paul Dufek I am Secretariat fan. But my brother did a deep comparison between MOW and Secretariat and firmly believes MOW was the better horse. Maybe. Still, my favorite horse was and always will be Ruffian. Maybe because I was very young when she had her match race and broke down.
@@lauracorriss9538 Its not even close, Secretariat was a far better horse than MOW that ran much faster times against way better competition. As good as MOW and Z were, Secretariat still stands alone as the GREATEST OF ALL TIME PERIOD.
@TheRednose3269 I agree with you. My brother believes that MOW was the better horse, but I think Secretariat was. I am not claiming Ruffian was better than Secretariat, but in my opinion, she was the best filly and the best 3 year old that year. It just bothers me that so many have forgotten her or never even know if her existence.
Secretariat. HE WAS AMAZING. Sure, Zenyatta is cool. She only broke one record. Secretariat broke lots. He sired over 900 foals, and only a few of them were successful (this includes American Pharaoh). He ran at a speed of 48mph and won the Triple Crown. His heart weighed 10kg. He retired when he was only 3 years old. His owners had to hand graze him as they were afraid he would run again. To be honest, I feel sorry for all the racehorses who went up against Big Red... especially Sham. He would've made a great racing legend (well, he is one) and would've set many records but he went against Big Red and lost 🤷♀️. In conclusion, Secretariat would've crushed Zenyatta if they raced against each other.
@ Gerry Thompson Sham broke 2 track records, in the derby, and Preakness, and finished 2nd. Pincay, was a great jockey, on a very good horse, and got every ounce out of him. Sham just had the misfortune, of running into a once in a generation horse. He would have been, the Triple Crown Champion in 73, if not for the greatest, Secretariat.
@@johnhebert3986 He may have broken the records but it wasn't fast enough. He came in last in the Belmont. I am no fan of Pincay. He gets "every ounce" by beating the horses he is on.
@ Gerry Thompson Is there something in my comments, that would lead you to believe that I thought Sham, was a better, or faster horse than Secretariat.? Once again, IMO Sham would have been the Triple Crown Winner in 73 if not for Secretariat, which obviously makes Secretariat the better horse. IMO the reason Sham finished last in the Belmont, was because he just had 2 very tough races, against and opponent, he couldn't beat. He then went head to head with Secretariat, in the Belmont, running a 1/2 mile in 46 1/5th, before he hit a brick wall. It was discovered afterwords, that Sham had suffered, a hairline fracture in his cannon bone. Now one can speculate, as to the reason why this happened, but IMO there is a good possibility, it could have been caused, by trying and failing, to keep up with a once in a generation horse. So I would ask myself a couple of questions. Had Secretariat, not been involved, in the 73 Triple Crown, would Sham have had to run as hard, to beat the the rest of the competition.? Also, is there the possibility, he wouldn't have broken down, if he didn't have to go throat to throat, in blazing fractions, against the best of all times.?
Secretariat eventually sired a number of major stakes winners, including: General Assembly, winner of the 1979 Travers Stakes, setting a track record of 2:00 flat that stood for 37 years.[103] [104] Lady's Secret, 1986 Horse of the Year.[105] Risen Star, 1988 Preakness and Belmont Stakes winner.[106] Kingston Rule, 1990 Melbourne Cup winner, breaking the course record.[107] Tinners Way, born in 1990 to Secretariat's last crop, winner of the 1994 and 1995 Pacific Classic.[108] Ultimately, Secretariat officially sired 663 named foals, including 341 winners (51.4%) and 54 stakes winners (8.1%).[109] There has been some criticism of Secretariat as a stallion, mainly because he did not produce male offspring of his own ability and did not leave a leading sire son behind, but his legacy is assured through the quality of his daughters, several of whom were excellent racers and even more of whom were excellent producers. In 1992, Secretariat was the leading broodmare sire in North America. Overall, Secretariat's daughters produced 24 Grade/Group 1 winners. As a broodmare sire, Secretariat's most notable progeny were: Weekend Surprise, a stakes winner and the 1992 Kentucky Broodmare of the Year. Her sons include 1990 Preakness winner Summer Squall and 1992 Horse of the Year A.P. Indy.[110] Terlingua, a stakes winner and dam of leading sire Storm Cat.[111] Secrettame, a stakes winner and dam of important sire Gone West, whose descendants include Kentucky Derby winner Smarty Jones.[112] Six Crowns, dam of champion two-year-old and sire Chief's Crown.[113] Sister Dot, dam of champion two-year-old and sire Dehere.[114] Celtic Assembly, dam of Volksraad, leading sire in New Zealand.[115] Betty's Secret, dam of Secreto, winner of The Derby, and Istabraq, three-time winner of the Champion Hurdle.[116] Through Weekend Surprise and Terlingua alone, Secretariat appears in the pedigree of numerous champions. Weekend Surprises's son A.P. Indy was the leading sire in North America in 2003 and 2006, and is the sire of 2003 Horse of the Year Mineshaft and 2007 Belmont Stakes winner Rags to Riches. He has also established a successful sire-line that leads to Kentucky Derby winners Orb and California Chrome.[117] A.P. Indy's leading sire-line descendant is Tapit, who led the sire list in 2014-2015 and is the sire of Belmont Stakes winners Tonalist and Creator.[118] Terlingua's son Storm Cat is also a two time leading sire, whose offspring include Giant's Causeway, three-time leading sire in North America.[119] Storm Cat also sired Yankee Gentleman, who is the broodmare sire of 2015 Triple Crown winner American Pharoah.[120] Both Storm Cat and A.P. Indy appear in the pedigree of 2018 Triple Crown winner Justify.[121] Inbreeding to Secretariat has also proven successful, as exemplified by numerous graded stakes winners, including two-time Horse of the Year Wise Dan, as well as sprint champion Speightstown.[122] Secretariat's paddock at Claiborne Farm bordered three other stallions: Drone, Sir Ivor, and Hall of Fame inductee Spectacular Bid. Secretariat did not pay much attention to Drone or Sir Ivor, but he and Spectacular Bid became friendly and occasionally raced each other along the fence line between their paddocks.[123] [124] everything.explained.today/Secretariat_%28horse%29/
There is no absolutely NO DOUBT that BIG RED was the GREATEST RACE HORSE THAT EVER LIVED. NO HORSE WILL EVER BREAK HIS RECORD!!! Winning the Belmont BY 31 LENGTHS will never be repeated & you can take that to the bank.
One race doesn't make a horse and Secretariat was a pig as a sire something everyone seems to forget. Without a doubt Dan Patch of the old era and "The Freak Of Nature" Mission Brief of the modern era are the two greatest racehorses of all time. As well the offspring of Mission Brief will rewrite all the record books with One Alpha One and Kadena.
A tad harsh, don't you think.? Its true Secretariat, didn't live up to expectations as a sire, but those expectations, were set way high. He did turn out, to be a decent broodmare sire. Also, it isn't just one race, the Belmont, that made Secretariat the greatest, race horse. He also ran the fastest Derby, which still stands today, and broke the track record in the Preakness. He also set the world record for 1 1/8 miles, in the Marlboro Cup, against older horses, 3 of which were, eclipse award winners. He also broke the track record, for his 1st start on the turf, in the Man O' War Stakes. running the 1 1/2 mile distance in 2:24 4/5ths. So while the 73 Belmont, may have been the most sensational performance, ever run by a race horse, it is more of Secretariats body of work, on the track that made him the greatest, IMO.
I can understand this young narrator's personal choice for Zenyatta. The horse is contemporary... and just retired with an impressive win-loss record. This means this young lady may have seen her race. However, she never saw Secretariat perform. I did. I was only 14 yrs old when I watched "Big Red" create sports history! Now, every time I decide to see the 1973 third leg of the triple crown (at Belmont), it just brings back such wonderful memories. For me, it's Secretariat-NUFF SAID!
Secretariat still holds the track records of all three triple crown tracks & will probably never be beaten. A true champion, Secretariat deserves the title of best of the best.
@@christinematton4125 Yes ma'am! They also did a necropsy on Secretariat when he died, and he had a heart almost twice the size as a normal horse's heart. He had a bigger engine. 😄😄🏇🏇
"The Queen" was thrilling to watch! But the clock tells the tale...Secretariat's times & track records speak of an animal that was nothing less than "Lord of the Realm."
@Hoa Tattis: Secretariat raced turf in the Grade 1 Man o' War Stakes on October 8th, 1973 and won by 5 lengths in a course record time of 2:24 4/5. On October 28th, 1973, Secretariat's last race, was the Grade 2 Canadian International Stakes, turf track, which he also won by 6 1/2 lengths.
@Hoa Tattis: I'm not sure what your getting at. Your statement was, "...Never raced on turf". Secretariat did race on turf, twice, and won both times, and set a track record one of those times.
@Hoa Tattis: So, Secretariat is at fault because the majority of tracks in America are dirt? One of the turf tracks he ran on was in Canada. Turf tracks simply aren't the predominant surface in America. As for lengths and ratings, surely you could look that up, just as I did.
@Hoa Tattis: Except, Secretariat did indeed set a track record on turf. So unless a horse races on every surface, on every continent, in every condition, who's to say which is the best? So what your left with is name recognition. They're will always be someone claiming another horse, few people have heard of, is the better.
I was 14 yeats old when Secretariat won the triple crown. That stayed with me all my life. He was the greatest horse I ever seen on a track and I was so fortunate to be apart of year he won, 1973.
Me too! I was 12 years old. I remember sitting cross-legged on the shag carpet in our den!😂 Probably the top sports event I’ve ever witnessed in my life‼️❤️
Secs records still stand. I think that says it all. Animals get sick and have issues. The question is who is the best when they were at their best? There’s no question. Secretariat.
He lost 25% of the time. LOL. If not for his 31-length win in the Belmont, he'd be looked at by most as "just another great horse". That was a herculean effort. He was the best 3-year old, yes. He was certainly not the best 4 year old. Spectacular bid lost 13% of the time, has more track records at more distances at more tracks than Secretariat. He ran the 1 1/4 OVER a second faster than Secretariat.
@@craptainofsea he still holds the records for all 3 dude. What are you even talking about. Not only was he not 100% healthy his career. He had a human aspect of thinking to him. He didn’t race as a 4 year old dude. He was the best 2 year old. Do your research before you speak.
@@crannyscustoms True. He does. But he lost 25% of the time. Losing every 1/4 times you compete...is middle of the road. So yeah, great triple crown series. Shit the bed before and after that.
Cmon Secretariat is the best of all time!! No other horse comes close. Beautiful and cool the way the horse always looked at the camera. Heart was two times the size of a normal horse. More horsepower!!!!
JeffB Lengths cmon he left the others in the dust! You can't even see the rest of the field in the home stretch barely in the Belmont. He won by 31 lengths! Cmon 😁 So beautiful too he was! Google who was the fasted race horses 🐴 of all time. Big Red wins!
One race doesn't make a horse and Secretariat was a pig as a sire something everyone seems to forget. Without a doubt Dan Patch of the old era and "The Freak Of Nature" Mission Brief of the modern era are the two greatest racehorses of all time. As well the offspring of Mission Brief will rewrite all the record books with One Alpha One and Kadena.
@@lindamoore3729 Have you ever seen a major stakes race where one horse is one to nine and the complete rest of the field is 99 to one? Only the "freak of nature" Mission Brief. Like I said when One Alpha One and Kadena (the offspring of Mission Brief) hit the racetrack after this Covid fiasco no one will remember Secretariat.
I think it is indisputable that secretariat was the greatest race horse ever, he was so outstanding that people watch his races over and over again, every time with uncontrollable emotions, the kind that brings you to tears, secretariat connected with peoples heart, thats what solidifies his superiority!
Watching Secretariat win the Belmont was the only time in my 64 years I saw perfection. I'm not a big race fan but that race brings tears every time I see it.
@ Lorraine Lloyd Why is that funny.? A lot of people cried after Secretariat, won the Belmont and became the 1st triple crown champion, in 25 years. People, were looking for something to cheer about. The country was still in the midst of the Vietnam War, and Watergate. And equine perfection, was witnessed on that day. A 31 length victory, and a world record to boot, that still stands 48 years later, and counting. A record that will probably, never be topped.
@@lorrainelloyd7750 Lorraine I'm glad I amuse you. My life is divided between before my daughter was killed and after. Watching that Belmont is a very memorable event from before I knew what pain is. And it does bring a tear to my eyes. That day I and a lot of people from my age group believe we saw perfection.in that wonderful horse. It lasted only 2:24 but after the terrorist attack at the 72 Olympics and Vietnam War it was very emotional.
When some horse comes along and beats Secretariats Triple Crown records, then lets talk! Big Red has been gone close to 44 years and in that time at least 2,000,000 foals have been born ,and no horse has done it yet!!!! I'm still waiting
@horselover you are an idiot by your own remarks. What kind of horses have we had, cant win blah blah blah. The question was who is the greatest race horse of all time. Yeah, the fix was in on that preakness thing. BEST RACE HORSE OF ALL TIME! Forget the record on the preakness if it was fixed (I wont mess with the tinfoil on your head, obviously it was a conspiracy). Sorry if I shove down your throat HE WON THE BELMONT BY 31 LENGTHS!!!! AND whether you like it all three times still stand in the record books.
@Gord Merritt I’m sorry but I really think horselover has some kind of mental illness. He/she comments in just about every horse related thread and finds some reason to say that Secretariat wasn’t that great and we’ve all been brainwashed into thinking so. This video is idiotic. So Zenyatta is the best horse ever because she’s tall? Does that mean that Robert Wadlow was the greatest person to ever live because he was the tallest?
horse lover forgets that Sham also broke the derby record in that race. It just didn't count because after Secretariat crossed the finish line it wasn't the derby record anymore.
You could argue all day about the second-greatest horse of all time, and there are probably a dozen horses that you could make a case for, Man o' War, Kelso, Seabiscuit, Citation, Forego, Spectacular Bid, Dr. Fager, Affirmed, Seattle Slew... but Secretariat is and likely always will be the greatest of them all.
I heard that Secretariat ran on a much more forgiving surface than those other older horses. I dont know how true it is but if they ran on different surfaces then it could make a difference in times.
@@CC-jl7jz I've seen it said, and I have no reason to doubt it, that tracks today are about one second faster than they were in Secretariat's day; synthetic tracks are definitely faster than dirt. It's possible that tracks in Secretariat's day were faster than those that, say, Man o' War ran on, but I don't know that for sure. But even with the tenfold growth in the number of foals per year, improved equipment, improved training, improved nutrition, Lasix and other meds, and synthetic tracks, no horse has broken Secretariat's times in the classics. No doubt some horse will, sometime, but when they do they'll have all the advantages of modern technology that Secretariat didn't have.
Man o" War was even larger than Secretariat and was the original Big Red. That said, he won 20 races and only lost his last race due to Jockey error. The race tracks were nothing compared to todays or even the tracks Secretariat raced on. He also carried enormous weights, a handicap to give other horses a chance. Better than Secretariat? But definitely if not the best, than surely the 2nd greatest horse that ever lived. He also had a stride length of 28' (most of any horse). Secretariats stride length was 25'.
I've seen them all live and "the freak of nature" Mission Brief is by far the greatest racehorse and broodmare of all time. You'll learn and learn well when the entire world talks about One Alpha One and Kadena and no one remembers Secretariat.
I have to agree, though I love the queen immensely! SHE'S MY GIRL, TOO! A great supplier of joy. And no other, had her grit and determination! However, Secretariat was the 'man'! Champion of the world! Unsurpassable
I remember watching Big Red run when I was 10, when I watch his races, I still tear up and cry… I can still hear the announcer, hes running like a tremendous machine…he got faster every 1/4 mile…let that sink in, he was running faster and faster. Big Red will be in our hearts for ever. He truly was gods race horse and god let us enjoy his great creation.
"was gods race horse and god let us enjoy" - Just saying - - - Capitalizing when it comes to God Almighty is important. According to the Bible, lowercase means something very different - 1 Corinthians 8: 5,6 "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ" Amen...
49 years ago Secretariat set records in all three races of the Triple Crown that still stand to this day. Until those records fall, especially the Belmont Stakes, Secretariat will be considered the greatest race horse who ever lived.
Robert Frias keep in mind secretariat raced against little competition, in better turf conditions, better shoes, lighter weights and still managed to lose more than man o war.
Though man o' War didn't win the Triple Crown, it wasn't for lack of trying; he was not entered in the Kentucky Derby. Secretariat never directly sired a triple crown winner. Man o' War's son War Admiral did win it.
Phar Lap travelled for months, raced injured, tip weight and still beat the best in the US. He won 4 majors at The Flemington Carnival in 7 days, there has and will never be another horse like him RIP big Red
@@russe19642 I really like to think that Pharlap could beat Secretariat,maybe on any other day than when Secretariat won the Belmont,As I said on that day not a horse born would have beaten him.Some time ago,a American racehorse handicapper retired and was ask which was the best horse he had ever seen,and they put up the names of all the Champs,including Sea Biscuit and Secretariat. He said Pharlap.
@@dennisdobin8640 yeah but I wonder drugs didnt play apart then before today's standards. Cocaine was a drug of choice, a performance enhancer and was easily available then. But can you imagine living those days without the technology we have now?Also I'm amazed why horseracing is probably the only sport outside of soccer to have such a following still.
@@russe19642 Yeah they could have been give them performance enhancing drugs,but Secretariat was like Phar Lap,had a real big heart,big stride.And racing is one of the sport where performance has not advanced like other sports.I think a horse called Tulloch held the 1 1-2 mile record for decades ,Vain I still think holds some kind of record,and if they where all getting speed up you imagine,they may nudging his times? No he was a freak,just like Phar Lap. The one think we do know is there will never be a horse capable of doing what Phar Lap did in the spring of 1930,maybe Carbine.
I was at the track on the day Ruffian broke down in the match race, I was only 13 years old but I was there with my older brother. I gave my brother my $6 dollars to bet on Ruffian for me and I still have my three $2 tickets. I am still convinced she would have won.
She was leading over Foolish Pleasure when she broke down. It was very very sad. She was super talented: she had run a mile and a half in 2.27.4 once. Quick!
While I fully recognize that in a very real sense Ruffian did not "lose" the match race -- it was an incomplete race for her -- breakdowns or any other reason resulting in failure to complete a race does count as a loss. Her career record is 11:10-0-0.
Secretariat was not just a horse but a greatest legendary athelete of all time..... Secretariat was an emotion, connection, feeling and love for the generation of 19th century to 21st century...people......His greatness is Unmatchable....An Art of Perfection made by God.....
Secretariat was a very poor starter; he would lean on the back door of the gate rather than leaning on the front getting ready to run. That's why he was generally back in the pack early in his races. He was so much stronger than the other horses, though, that it didn't really matter if he got off to a slow start. He had quarter-horse speed (see his move in the Preakness) and steeplechaser stamina. Hands down the GOAT.
Secretariat is hands down the best racehorse that ever set a hoof on a track…. The record book shows that… of course, having a heart over two times the size of a normal horse, didn’t hurt..
@@roundtable3501 He ran sick in two of those races, including the Whitney when Turcotte told Laurin that he couldn't run in the race, actually begged him not to run him. The third was to Prove Out who, to this day, is still the only other horse in history to run under 2:26 for a mile and a half.
What your missing is that things changed after the Ruffian disaster! Throw out ANY race time record before Ruffian! When she broke down in a match race in NY on national TV in 1975 there was a HUGE outcry in the country!! Why? Because U.S. racetracks were groomed to be lighting fast by reducing the cushion or depth of the surfaces!! The number of injuries and deaths was deemed to be a cruel treatment of the horses. Even veteran writers had to agree that the emphasis on times was manufactured by altering the surfaces! (Also note the contested race time of Red's Preakness win!!) Owners and trainers were in agreement! Much of this was kept out of the press to maintain the image and high interest in the sport!! There were also concerns about racing on frozen tracks (many track records were set on frozen surfaces)and at the time many race cards were cancelled in the northeast for years! So your comment about "faster tracks now" is TOTALLY inaccurate, in fact it's just the opposite!! In 21 starts W-16 P-3 S-1 career winnings $1,316, 900!! He was sent to stud where he turned out to be a failure and even the owners regretted not continuing with racing! IF you want to see one of the real champions of all time then google KELSO 63 starts(3 times the number of starts by Red and over twice the number of wins (39) W-39 P-12 S-2 and $1,977, 900 from purses, a full 10 years before Big Red!!!! Raced until 9 years of age!! Won 6 of 8 races at age 8!! 5 time horse of the year the next closest is 3 and Red is 2!! Carried weights of 136 pounds and spotted rivals as much as 18 pounds! Red never carried more than 126! Kelly set 9 track records. STILL owns the record for 2 miles on dirt!! Set an american record for 1.5 miles on the TURF!! Red was maybe the best 3 year old of all time maybe even of the seventies but NOT the best "RACE" horse of ALL time NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! ALL distances, ALL tracks, ALL weights, ALL earnings, ALL wins, ALL surfaces Kelso was at the top of ALL TIME!!!!
Hi i im pilipino. I am very very fun of horse racing even i did not ever watch an horse racing in personal but i watch so many horse racing here in youtube. And my favoritr horse is secretariat . and i think secretariat is better than zenyatta. Size does not matter.
Seabiscuit is for me the best racehorse ever,because he was not a "normal horse".He was much smaller,had knobby knees etc....Imagine what he could have done if that wasn't the case. But above all...what he did for the people in that periode,was more amazing than his victories. He brought the whole nation together in those very difficult times.He was a true hero back then and still is.Most famous quote in history of horseracing...So long,Charley by Red Pollard 😄😄
@balerick48, Secretariat was not on steroids! I have done extensive reading on anabolic steroids or long acting, and short acting steroids. There is no scientific proof that steroids make a horse go faster! In fact, the short term steroid will make a horse go nuts and try to kill a human! After the Belmont, Secretariat looked pretty docile to me, which was his normal personality! Seriously people, before you accuse, read! He was beautiful, smart, well bred, fast and durable!
Well I train athletes for a living and I can say none of what u said makes any sense. Ok for starters the combination which was favored heavily in the 70s was winstrol v and equipose. Equipose was longer acting "5 days" between administrations. Equipose would increase protein synthesis building muscle much faster, allowing recovery from training in hours not days. Winstrol was short acting given everyday to every other day. Winstrol helped with explosive strength and performance. Both steroids are favored in the racing industry for 1 critical reason. They cause no water retention and will actually reduce any subcutaneous water issues the horse may have. Steroids don't just make humans and horse's go faster lol. Steroids will have that effect on any lifeforms there administered to.
You said short term steroids would make a horse go nuts. I'm not sure where your getting this information. There are two types of steroids androgenic and anabolic. Androgenic mimics all the strong male characteristics of the testosterone naturally produced by a man. Characteristics like aggression, strength, virility etc.. Anabolic steroids were designed to have the muscle building and performance enhancing effects of testosterone without the side effects (mood swings, aggression, hair loss, acne etc). Horses are given strictly anabolic steroids to aid in their performance. Androgenic steroids are used mostly by human athletes who want to gain size and don't mind the water retention associated with heavy androgenic compounds
just my opinion, but Secretariat consistently showed the heart and the kick through the last quarter mile annialating his opponents through to the end.. it would have been a great match race to see Secretariat and Seabiscuit head to head..
Secretariat was the greatest horse because he leaves other horses like a lot of meters (300 m) behind him and his record was les then 1 min also there is no horse yet that has passed his record
I think, in Europe, they now water the tracks so that the running isn't too firm, to protect the horses; that also means the tracks aren't so fast as they once were.
Nice breakdown! You could argue she is the greatest mare of all time though a lot of old timers will say Ruffian was better. I think Zenyatta was the greatest mare of time. But with all that said Secretariat is still the one and only greatest horse of all time. All you have to do is watch the Belmont or look at his times in the classic races.
ZENYATTA IS NOT THE GREATEST MOST OF THE TIME SHE RACED THE SAME LOWESY HORSES.HER TIMES NEVER CAME CLOSE TO BEATING SECRETARIATS TIMES.WHO EVER MADE THIS IS CRAZY. SECRETARIAT THE GREATEST RACE HORSE OF ALL TIME
I believe it was 31, however, no horse on record comes close to this statistic at the Belmont in 1973. Fast forward 44 years. No other horse on record has broken his Triple Crown efforts and numbers since 1973!
what I actually meant to say is that Secretariat is my first best horse and he'll always be my first best horse and Seabiscuit is my second best horse and ruffian is my third best horse and Zenyatta is my fourth.
Secretariat win by 30 or so lengths is the apex of horse racing for me, but seabisquits unusual rise and then to stay there, racing at an age that's unheard of, kinda the Tom Brady of horses. I gotta give it to both, but there are many contenders that had amazing careers.
you do realize that's taking a risk saying that. NOW we all know Secretariat had a huge heart. Which gave him more oxygen in his lungs TO go as fast as he wanted and beyond. Zenny only has regular lungs far as we know. Between two dirt horses........nobody knows. BOTH are great in their era's. BUT Zenny would have to race Secretariat on fair terms to tell. They'd need a match race. So all you people have no clue who is better.
If zenyattas in front secretariat not running her down!...works both ways... you ever heard of another horse were post position didn't matter.. you put Zenyatta and let her run there's no telling what she would have done
The legendary Pharlap of course. An amazing freakish beautiful true galloper of all time. He was so good in fact, that when he travelled to the states to compete with their best thorobreds, the yanks tragically poisoned him, in his stalls. They knew Big Red was going to kick their best hacks right in their arses too! Tommy Woodcock was so heartbroken. He never got over the loss. RIP Tommy & Big Red.🇦🇺☮️
His run times were phenomenal in some races, but he showed plenty of mortality, as he was a bit inconsistent. He may be responsible for running the most impressive race in the history of the sport, but i do not believe that qualifies him as the best horse of all time.
@@georgeratkovich7161 He won three of the greatest races of all time. The three top races in the world. With record times still standing today. Against one of the greatest horses, Sham. He lost only two important races, at least one of them with an abscess in his mouth. He was one of the most consistent horses ever. Your arguments of his "mortality" come from a place of ignorance. Also, the majority of the arguments presented here to name Zenyatta as the best is totally idiotic.
@@bruno_dias I am not discrediting Secretariat's accomplishments. the discussion was who was the greatest horse of all time. Most people are unaware that Secretariat lost 2 of his next 4 races after the Belmont. Also, he was retired at the age of 3, and never took on a campaign or a season against older horses. The Triple Crown is limited to 3 year olds. I do believe he ran the best race of all time in the Belmont, but that does not mean he proved to be the best horse of all time. i think that distinction belongs to a horse that raced for a few years, and was a consistent Grade 1 winner on turf and on dirt, won at different distances, and won at different tracks. A durable horse that stood the test of time. Frankly, I am not sure we will ever know who that is, and in my opinion Secretariat's resume falls a bit short in that regard. i appreciate the conversation.
Secretariat also broke the record at the Travers race after the Triple crown, and was sent to Canada on his last race, and broke the Canadian record against their champion Kennedy Rhodes. Consequently, Secretariat broke the Great Canadian horse; Northern Dancers record time in his last race!
Secretariat's still holds the track record in the Derby, Preakness and Belmont. In the mile 1/2 Belmont he ran the first 6 furlongs in 109 and 2, ( fastest 2/3 of a mile) and the race in 2.40. Opening down the stretch. I saw it live. It was breathtaking. When witnesses say ," people were crying," as he finished the race, it was hundreds and maybe thousands. Overwhelmed! When my kids said they were going to see the movie I told them," no matter the film craft, direction or special effects, and music, it could only fail to recapture the moment. For people who didn't see it live, I can only hope they get to see something like the Belmont on that day in their lives. Nothing matched it since.
Zenyatta? No. Just no. Secretariat still holds the fastest Derby, Preakness, and Belmont times. Not to mention the length of victory at the Belmont. This is absolutely laughable. In fact, Zenyatta would not have beaten Seattle Slew.
There's no way zenyatta could beat Seattle slew, Man o' War might have beaten secretariat in a match race, but everyone forgets about count fleet. He won the belmont by 25 lengths. Only 6 lengths of secretariat. I think we should give count fleet some credit for that.
@@parkerbohnn you’re gonna come back here in time crying pal cause that Belmont will never be beaten- it is, without any doubt, THE greatest athletic performance, by man or beast, in the history of the planet- the greatest athletic achievement bar none and will stand for eternity abs to think differently is to be a f-0-0-l!
@@green_acres_7240 I've seen them all run back to the mid 1960's and the best horse I've seen is Mission Brief a standardbred trotter. As well I believe the offspring of Mission Brief that being so far "One Alpha One" and "Kadena" will make everyone forget Secretariat.
Secretariat.... hands down. I love the Seabiscuit story and all, but big Red was an Anatoly. It's heart was twice as large as a normal racehorse. His Belmont record will never be broken.
It comes down to “Times” and “Conditions”. I’m not so sure Zenatta is the best filly let alone the best racehorse of all time. The immortal Ruffian won every race she ran in with the exception of her match race against Foolish Pleasure where she broke down. Personal Ensign was also an undefeated filly who beat the boys and what about Rachel Alexander who won the Oaks, Preakness, Haskell and Woodward. Secretariat’s times in the Kentucky Derby, Preakness and Belmont Stakes stand today. I think that Zenyatta is a wonderful horse but to say she’s the best racehorse of all time is borderline absurd.
I agree with you I don't think Zenyatta could of beat Rachel Alexandra her 3 year old campaign that season she mostly won on synthetic anyhow her Classic win was on synthetic not impressed she was set to run at Churchchill one time before on the Oaks card I belive it rained she probley didn't run well on muddy tracks don't know of health issues she was scratched don't know for sure just an opinion telling people to bet Blame to win he would win the Classic at Churchchill Downs & people kept telling me no way would he beat Zenyatta what happened no one who said that made a commet to me neither did i to individuals who told me that until months after the race didn't want seem like I was bragging about being correct & rubbing it in she may be in top 10 high but not the greatest or greatest Philly just an opinion most of wins were on synthetic so not imprrssed.
The Beyer Speed Figure is a system for rating the performance of thoroughbred racehorses in North America designed in the early 1970s by Andrew Beyer, the syndicated horse racing columnist for The Washington Post. Beyer retrospectively rated Secretariat's 1973 Belmont performance at 139, the highest rating he ever awarded. In comparison, the last two Triple Crown winners recorded Beyers of 105 (American Pharoah) and 101 (Justify) in their Belmont wins. Secretariat was simply jaw-dropping fast, the best ever.
Does everybody realize War Admiral and Seabiscuit were close kin? War Admiral was the son of Man o' War; Seabiscuit was his grandson. I love Zenyatta; she was the most perfect mare since Ruffian. I just love race horses!
great comments one and all, but the great thing about these races is that they are all timed. While I understand that not all of these horses run in the same countries, let alone the same races, there is only one horse who has run the Kentucky Derby in under 2 minutes, and it is the same horse that set the record in the Preakness and the Belmont. The Belmont record is a full 2 seconds faster than the next fastest horse. Secretariat did lose some races, once he clearly was sick, the others were probably due to poor handling. But in terms of the fastest horse that has ever been clocked at these races, secretariat is without a doubt the fastest racehorse. If you think otherwise, look it up. The final thing I will add is that there is good evidence, when looking at Kentucky Derby times, that breeding has gradually, but almost certainly, resulted in a limit to the speed a thoroughbred can run. Secretariat's success was probably due to a genetic mutation passed to him through his maternal line with variable penetrance. His offspring did not have it. Steroids and drugs did not give him his cardiovascular changes. But they died with him. The subsequent winners' times are all close but not below 2 minutes.
Tamara doesn't have to PROVE a damn thing, to you or anyone else. It is her opinion that Secretariat is better than Zenyatta ... an OPINION. An opinion is not rocket science - it could be she simply loves flashy chestnuts. Relax. It's only TH-cam.
How could Secretariat be sterile if he sired some 600 horses? It is said that great racehorses rarely duplicate themselves. A breeder said he was not a disappointment as a stud. He was also a virgin until age 3, when he was retired from racing and became a stud. 🏇
@@meritz59 "He [Secretariat] sired some very good, though not great horses." *Secretariat sired one unquestionably great horse, Hall of Famer and 1986 Horse of the Year Lady's Secret.* She's not in the running for greatest U.S. mare of all time; not in a class with Zenyatta, Busher, Ruffian, Gallorette or Personal Ensign, for example. But Lady's Secret (45:25-9-3, with 22 stakes wins) was a slam dunk Hall of Famer who was elected in her first year of eligibility. A panel of seven experts ranked her #76 in Blood Horse's 1999 (mistitled) "Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century," and I think she deserved to be a bit higher. (The Blood Horse book is misnamed, it's really a list of Thoroughbreds who ran on the flat in the 20th C. with at least one start in North America.) It's possible Secretariat son Risen Star (11:8-2-1), champion 3-yr-old male in 1988 and winner of the Preakness and Belmont, would have turned out to be a great horse if he had not been injured in the Belmont and subsequently retired. And as you allude to, Secretariat sired some other very good racers.
@@marysueeasteregg Another son, Kingston Rule won the 1990 Melbourne Cup (Australia's premier horse race) in record time, and that record still stands in 2021.
Lady your smoking something if you think Zenyatta is better than Secretariat.Zenyattas owner's even stated when she got the Secretariat award,they were overwhelmed and Honored to have her mentioned in the same sentence as Secretariat.
Personally my favorite horse was Forego. He raced and lost to Secretariat on the Kentucky Derby. But as a gelding, he had a long and winning years of racing after that race. He was one of the largest horses I have seen in horse racing.
Sorry.. Secretariat was the greatest...Zenyatta was amazing, however Ruffian, Landaluce and Genuine Risk were unbelievably great fillies... and of course throw in Kincsem...
@@maxwellh.4471 It is impossible to know for sure but Man o Wars Belmont 1 1/2 mile record is 2:28 4/5ths and Secretariat's record 2:24 so Secretariat wins based on that. they were both 3 year olds so pretty even physically.
@ Johnathan Hunt. I think it is possible to know for sure. You are correct, about both times. Secretariat's time was just about 5 seconds faster, than Man O' Wars. Also, what most Fan's don't realize is, Secretariat, carried 126 lbs, as opposed to Man O' Wars 118 lbs. Also, Man O' Wars time for 1 1/2 miles, came in the Jockey Club Gold Cup, not the Belmont. The Belmont was run @ 1 3/8 miles in 1920. As I have mentioned in previous comments, if 1 second equals 5 lengths, on a flat dirt oval racing service, given both horses times, that means that Secretariat, would have beaten Man O' War by about 25 lengths. Sounds ridiculous right.? But the clock, doesn't lie. Give Man O' War 3 seconds, for steel shoes, and a lesser race track, and that's being generous, Secretariat, still wins by 10 lengths.
im shure zanyatta is not the best racehorse i think that is secretariat, he won the Belmont with 31 fucking lengts the belmond is the hardest race so im shure secretariat is the best race horse
+TheFarmerfitz Of all time? Do you discount all the European and Australasian horses? Give me Frankel, Black Caviar, Phar Lap, Sea the Stars, Treve, Sea Bird, Makybe DIva any day. American horses need to travel outside US and race serious horses as well.
@@Airedale721 They were absolutely wrong. I think they did a measurement of Secretariat and War Admiral at the Belmont and Secretariat would've still beaten War Admiral by 19 lengths.
@ Lain Iwakura I don't think anyone, can question, how fast Dr. Fager was. I believe, he still holds the world record, for 1 mile 1:32 1/5th, set in 1968. And, for whatever reason, he was faster @ 1/1/4 miles, than he was @ 1/1/8 miles, when you compare the times, for both distances. I will say this, Dr Fager, was the faster horse up to 1 1/16th. I will take Secretariat, @ 1 1/8th and beyond. But 3 of Dr Fager's, 1 1/4 mile times, are right there with Secretariat. Here are his times: 1:59 4/5ths, 1:59 3/5ths, and 1:59 1/5th, a race he finished 1st in, but was disqualified, and placed 4th. Secretariat: @ 1:1/4. 1:59: 2/5ths, Derby. 1:59 flat, in the Belmont Stakes. 1:57 4/5ths, clocked, while galloping out the extra furlong distance, after setting a world record for 1 1/8th, 1:45 2/5ths. Dr Fager was ranked as the 6th greatest U.S. racehorse, of the 20th Century, by Blood Horse magazine.
I have been watching racing for more than fifty years and usually the locals pick their favorite horse as the all time best , for me all you can reasonably do is declare your favorite "one of the Greats " and leave it at that . Otherwise you just kid yourself because we will never know and in any case a horses performance is dependent on many things such as distance and going and can vary greatly from one race to the next . Therefore I declare that Mr. Ed was probably the greatest .
Secretariat was not a failure as a stud! He produced some great brood mares. How could anybody expect him to reproduce himself? Even the most prestigious thoroughbred breeders said that Secretariat was not a failure as a stud! Greatness takes time. I truly believe that he will appear again. Probably not in my lifetime, however with careful and mindful breeding, he will make himself known🏇
My gosh this is worse than arguing about college football… You made an excellent point about secretariat’s broodmares. At least someone knows what they’re talking about! It’s impossible to compare horses from different periods, but all things being equal… Secretariat has no equal.
@@cowboycarpenter8713 You're correct that Secretariat was not as dominate a sire as he was as a runner. But aside from a number of his daughters producing good racers (and esp. sires), Secretariat himself was a better than average sire of runners. Not a great sire of racehorses, as were his contemporaries Seattle Slew, Mr. Prospector and Alydar; but above average.
You forgot Secretariat's incredible acceleration in the 1973 Preakness on the first turn. No horse has ever accelerated like that as it demonstrated how incredibly fast Secretariat was. But no doubt that 2:24 in the Belmont will never be tied or beaten. Anderson emphasized that fact as they showed the time several times. So let there be NO DOUBT as to WHO was the greatest of all time!
I LOVE Zenyatta, Seattle Slew, Ruffian, Affirmed, Allydar- all of them!! That 1973 Belmont will never be beaten- it is, without any doubt, THE greatest athletic performance, by man or beast, in the history of the planet- the greatest athletic achievement bar none and will stand for eternity- to think differently is to be a f-0-0-l!
I have always thought the same about that performance. Incredible!
Absolutely! I watched that race live with my Dad because of all the hooplah surrounding the media as otherwise we never woulda watched it because we weren't into horses or racing. Tell you what I teared up. Anderson was right that record will NEVER BE BEATEN. there are a few others that will PROBABLY never be beaten as well... Roses all time hit record and Bonds walk AND HR records. Although they do play more games now. Ty Cobbs lifetime BA is another one. But Secretariat's 2:24 in the Belmont? NO WAY! No horse has come within 16 LENGTHS of that record in 50 YEARS! And some of the wins since he would have beaten the winner by 50 LENGTHS! Some other tidbits about that race. Every 1/4 mile was FASTER than the previous one meaning he was still ACCELERATING when he crossed the finish line! And Turcotte never touched him with the whip. Absolutely UNREAL! Another thing that blew me away was Secretariats incredible acceleration in the Preakness on that first term. I noticed it before Anderson did because I was only watching Secretariat. When I saw that I could not believe it. They'll NEVER be another Secretariat, folks.
I always thought that Tiger Woods’s 2000 US Open was the most dominant performance I had ever seen by man or beast. But after gaining the knowledge of Secretariat’s performance and watching it for myself, I think I have to tip the hat to Secretariat. It may be because I’m an animal lover, but no matter the reason I still feel how I feel. Tiger Woods didn’t just make the golf world look like fools, he revolutionized the game itself in just one tournament, but that was nearly expected at some point in his career. What Secretariat did on that day and how he and his rider did it, were earth shattering and mind blowing to EVERY single person in the world of horse racing. It wasn’t supposed to happen, so it gets the little nudge it needs to top Tiger’s 2000 US Open.
I love all of them too. Spectacular Bid and Native Dancer are the greatest horses that never won a triple crown. But no horse on this earth could have beaten Secretariat on that day in 1973.
56 hits in a row is not bad either
Secretariat stole the hearts of a nation. You really had to be there to know how amazing and magical he was. One of my boyhood heroes.
Considering that he won the triple crown in 1973 and EVERY one of those records STILL stand to this day as well as that 31 lengths by which he won the Belmont speaks for itself!
The Belmont record will not EVER be broken until they allow racecars to enter.
You realise racing happens outside America and is of a higher quality, yes?
@@Nautilus1972 LOL! No.
GOAT!!
Yes I agree but my favorite is a horse named whirlaway he raced and one the triple crown that year the Preakness was run 1 week after the Kentucky derby lin addition to that he won the Travers stakes up in the graveyard of champions it was coined that after Secretariat lost that race but yes what big red did in triple crown we may never see in our life times again and if you look in the record books the belmont in 2 24 and in perentices it. Says
Against the wind in the backstretch wow
I was at the Preakness when Secretariat won on way to Triple Crown. I’ve never witnessed a horse accelerate like he did going around the first turn. He wasn’t passing claimers, he was blowing by the best of the best. Just an amazing display of power.
Like others have said to judge the best one only has to look at times in races
As he was going around the outside accelerating away from world class horses that was the most explosive I've ever seen that day.
Agreed. That was insane.
I have watch horse racing for over 60 years now, there have been a number of great horses but Secretariat was in my opinion head and shoulders above the rest! What a horse he was!
She was good but she never won a triple crown. Secretariat won all three races in record time and belmont by 31 lengths that still stand to date. Secretariat is the best horse ever.
Brett Richards Sham was no donkey. But truth be told, Big Red needed a better field to push him. Yet he still set records that stand to this day.
Gotta agree with the crowd: Secretariat by a country mile.
Zenyatta was good--as were Citation, Cigar, Forego, and numerous others. But Ruffian was extraordinary--she equaled or broke the track or stakes record every time out except one; well, and the one she didn't finish. And in almost all of those races she was under restraint--Jacinto was under orders NOT to let her run as fast as she could.
Ruffian was more like 16.3hh, by the way--she was huge. Her girth as a two-year-old was bigger than Secretariat's.
No secret, I love all great fillies--I'm a girl, lol! But Secretariat stands alone. He was a stone-cold freak of nature, and no horse will ever best him, not in a million years.
Handorgeous ... Zenyatta was never beat by a $10,000 claimer Secretariat was
The triple crown is not the end all, be all of horse racing. At all. It's a championship for 3 year olds. Cigar never won the triple crown either. Zenyatta is a Queen! Not only did she win the Breeder's Cup Classic, but she went undefeated for 19 races and placed for her last and only loss. She ran 2nd. She was beat mearly by a head. She went out there and beat the boys in the Super Bowl of racing. She's a star!
Arianne Winkler: Zenyatta is definitely, IMHO, the second-best filly/mare ever. Ruffian, though, is THE best by far. She was poetry in motion, and she was almost always under restraint when she ran--her trainer was afraid to let her run wide open. Who knows what she could have accomplished had she not destroyed her leg in the match?
For those of us who saw Secretariat run, or were present when he won the Belmont by 31 lengths, it will be hard to believe there was a horse as great as he.
Well man o war won a stakes race at belmont by 100 lengths......now that's hard to imagine
They didn't mention man-o-war was racing against stock animals & ponies... ;)
@Paul Dufek I am Secretariat fan. But my brother did a deep comparison between MOW and Secretariat and firmly believes MOW was the better horse. Maybe. Still, my favorite horse was and always will be Ruffian. Maybe because I was very young when she had her match race and broke down.
@@lauracorriss9538 Its not even close, Secretariat was a far better horse than MOW that ran much faster times against way better competition. As good as MOW and Z were, Secretariat still stands alone as the GREATEST OF ALL TIME PERIOD.
@TheRednose3269 I agree with you. My brother believes that MOW was the better horse, but I think Secretariat was. I am not claiming Ruffian was better than Secretariat, but in my opinion, she was the best filly and the best 3 year old that year. It just bothers me that so many have forgotten her or never even know if her existence.
Secretariat.
HE WAS AMAZING.
Sure, Zenyatta is cool. She only broke one record. Secretariat broke lots.
He sired over 900 foals, and only a few of them were successful (this includes American Pharaoh). He ran at a speed of 48mph and won the Triple Crown. His heart weighed 10kg. He retired when he was only 3 years old.
His owners had to hand graze him as they were afraid he would run again. To be honest, I feel sorry for all the racehorses who went up against Big Red... especially Sham. He would've made a great racing legend (well, he is one) and would've set many records but he went against Big Red and lost 🤷♀️.
In conclusion, Secretariat would've crushed Zenyatta if they raced against each other.
Secretariat was hand ridden and did not like being outrun. Sham was whipped.
@ Gerry Thompson Sham broke 2 track records, in the derby, and Preakness, and finished 2nd. Pincay, was a great jockey, on a very good horse, and got every ounce out of him. Sham just had the misfortune, of running into a once in a generation horse. He would have been, the Triple Crown Champion in 73, if not for the greatest, Secretariat.
@@johnhebert3986 He may have broken the records but it wasn't fast enough. He came in last in the Belmont. I am no fan of Pincay. He gets "every ounce" by beating the horses he is on.
@ Gerry Thompson Is there something in my comments, that would lead you to believe that I thought Sham, was a better, or faster horse than Secretariat.? Once again, IMO Sham would have been the Triple Crown Winner in 73 if not for Secretariat, which obviously makes Secretariat the better horse. IMO the reason Sham finished last in the Belmont, was because he just had 2 very tough races, against and opponent, he couldn't beat. He then went head to head with Secretariat, in the Belmont, running a 1/2 mile in 46 1/5th, before he hit a brick wall. It was discovered afterwords, that Sham had suffered, a hairline fracture in his cannon bone. Now one can speculate, as to the reason why this happened, but IMO there is a good possibility, it could have been caused, by trying and failing, to keep up with a once in a generation horse. So I would ask myself a couple of questions. Had Secretariat, not been involved, in the 73 Triple Crown, would Sham have had to run as hard, to beat the the rest of the competition.? Also, is there the possibility, he wouldn't have broken down, if he didn't have to go throat to throat, in blazing fractions, against the best of all times.?
Secretariat eventually sired a number of major stakes winners, including:
General Assembly, winner of the 1979 Travers Stakes, setting a track record of 2:00 flat that stood for 37 years.[103] [104]
Lady's Secret, 1986 Horse of the Year.[105]
Risen Star, 1988 Preakness and Belmont Stakes winner.[106]
Kingston Rule, 1990 Melbourne Cup winner, breaking the course record.[107]
Tinners Way, born in 1990 to Secretariat's last crop, winner of the 1994 and 1995 Pacific Classic.[108]
Ultimately, Secretariat officially sired 663 named foals, including 341 winners (51.4%) and 54 stakes winners (8.1%).[109] There has been some criticism of Secretariat as a stallion, mainly because he did not produce male offspring of his own ability and did not leave a leading sire son behind, but his legacy is assured through the quality of his daughters, several of whom were excellent racers and even more of whom were excellent producers. In 1992, Secretariat was the leading broodmare sire in North America. Overall, Secretariat's daughters produced 24 Grade/Group 1 winners. As a broodmare sire, Secretariat's most notable progeny were:
Weekend Surprise, a stakes winner and the 1992 Kentucky Broodmare of the Year. Her sons include 1990 Preakness winner Summer Squall and 1992 Horse of the Year A.P. Indy.[110]
Terlingua, a stakes winner and dam of leading sire Storm Cat.[111]
Secrettame, a stakes winner and dam of important sire Gone West, whose descendants include Kentucky Derby winner Smarty Jones.[112]
Six Crowns, dam of champion two-year-old and sire Chief's Crown.[113]
Sister Dot, dam of champion two-year-old and sire Dehere.[114]
Celtic Assembly, dam of Volksraad, leading sire in New Zealand.[115]
Betty's Secret, dam of Secreto, winner of The Derby, and Istabraq, three-time winner of the Champion Hurdle.[116]
Through Weekend Surprise and Terlingua alone, Secretariat appears in the pedigree of numerous champions. Weekend Surprises's son A.P. Indy was the leading sire in North America in 2003 and 2006, and is the sire of 2003 Horse of the Year Mineshaft and 2007 Belmont Stakes winner Rags to Riches. He has also established a successful sire-line that leads to Kentucky Derby winners Orb and California Chrome.[117] A.P. Indy's leading sire-line descendant is Tapit, who led the sire list in 2014-2015 and is the sire of Belmont Stakes winners Tonalist and Creator.[118] Terlingua's son Storm Cat is also a two time leading sire, whose offspring include Giant's Causeway, three-time leading sire in North America.[119] Storm Cat also sired Yankee Gentleman, who is the broodmare sire of 2015 Triple Crown winner American Pharoah.[120] Both Storm Cat and A.P. Indy appear in the pedigree of 2018 Triple Crown winner Justify.[121]
Inbreeding to Secretariat has also proven successful, as exemplified by numerous graded stakes winners, including two-time Horse of the Year Wise Dan, as well as sprint champion Speightstown.[122]
Secretariat's paddock at Claiborne Farm bordered three other stallions: Drone, Sir Ivor, and Hall of Fame inductee Spectacular Bid. Secretariat did not pay much attention to Drone or Sir Ivor, but he and Spectacular Bid became friendly and occasionally raced each other along the fence line between their paddocks.[123] [124]
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Honestly, they were all great magnificent horses, but, Secretariat’s record speaks for itself.
There is no absolutely NO DOUBT that BIG RED was the GREATEST RACE HORSE THAT EVER LIVED. NO HORSE WILL EVER BREAK HIS RECORD!!! Winning the Belmont BY 31 LENGTHS will never be repeated & you can take that to the bank.
Thats exactly right
One race doesn't make a horse and Secretariat was a pig as a sire something everyone seems to forget. Without a doubt Dan Patch of the old era and "The Freak Of Nature" Mission Brief of the modern era are the two greatest racehorses of all time. As well the offspring of Mission Brief will rewrite all the record books with One Alpha One and Kadena.
@@parkerbohnn may was a pig but she sure smoked them all of them
A tad harsh, don't you think.? Its true Secretariat, didn't live up to expectations as a sire, but those expectations, were set way high. He did turn out, to be a decent broodmare sire. Also, it isn't just one race, the Belmont, that made Secretariat the greatest, race horse. He also ran the fastest Derby, which still stands today, and broke the track record in the Preakness. He also set the world record for 1 1/8 miles, in the Marlboro Cup, against older horses, 3 of which were, eclipse award winners. He also broke the track record, for his 1st start on the turf, in the Man O' War Stakes. running the 1 1/2 mile distance in 2:24 4/5ths. So while the 73 Belmont, may have been the most sensational performance, ever run by a race horse, it is more of Secretariats body of work, on the track that made him the greatest, IMO.
I can understand this young narrator's personal choice for Zenyatta. The horse is contemporary... and just retired with an impressive win-loss record. This means this young lady may have seen her race. However, she never saw Secretariat perform. I did. I was only 14 yrs old when I watched "Big Red" create sports history! Now, every time I decide to see the 1973 third leg of the triple crown (at Belmont), it just brings back such wonderful memories. For me, it's Secretariat-NUFF SAID!
Secretariat still holds the track records of all three triple crown tracks & will probably never be beaten. A true champion, Secretariat deserves the title of best of the best.
two: Belmont and Derby
@@TimYatcak 3... Preakness...took 40 years but they finally did the right thing...He still holds all three records...
@@TimYatcakyou're WRONG ....please do research before acting like you know it all
Farma Way from Pimlico's web site, and I quote: 1 3/16 M 1:522 Farma Way 4 119 May 11, 1991
Red owns the STAKES record not the track record
1. Secretariat 2. All the rest.
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But what if steroids, pre-testing era, was part of the unfair advantage...
@@meritz59 lol, a horse possibly on drugs in those 1970s pre-testing era, unfair.
The horses were always tested right after each race in the 70's
@@christinematton4125 Yes ma'am! They also did a necropsy on Secretariat when he died, and he had a heart almost twice the size as a normal horse's heart. He had a bigger engine. 😄😄🏇🏇
nothing on the planet could have ever come close to secretariat in his prime, he was by far the fastest from anywhere.
You need to watch frankel my friend down the home straight frankel vs secretariat would be nothing short of incredible
@@boomfifa4971 Care to compare Franels times with BIG RED as in the end the clock doesnt lie
Fager would have given him a good race
"The Queen" was thrilling to watch! But the clock tells the tale...Secretariat's times & track records speak of an animal that was nothing less than "Lord of the Realm."
@Hoa Tattis: Secretariat raced turf in the Grade 1 Man o' War Stakes on October 8th, 1973 and won by 5 lengths in a course record time of 2:24 4/5.
On October 28th, 1973, Secretariat's last race, was the Grade 2 Canadian International Stakes, turf track, which he also won by 6 1/2 lengths.
@Hoa Tattis: I'm not sure what your getting at.
Your statement was, "...Never raced on turf".
Secretariat did race on turf, twice, and won both times, and set a track record one of those times.
@Hoa Tattis: So, Secretariat is at fault because the majority of tracks in America are dirt?
One of the turf tracks he ran on was in Canada. Turf tracks simply aren't the predominant surface in America.
As for lengths and ratings, surely you could look that up, just as I did.
@Hoa Tattis: Except, Secretariat did indeed set a track record on turf. So unless a horse races on every surface, on every continent, in every condition, who's to say which is the best?
So what your left with is name recognition.
They're will always be someone claiming another horse, few people have heard of, is the better.
@Hoa Tattis Actually, Winx raced 43 times, winning 37, the last 33 in a row. Presumably all on turf.
I was 14 yeats old when Secretariat won the triple crown. That stayed with me all my life. He was the greatest horse I ever seen on a track and I was so fortunate to be apart of year he won, 1973.
I was 15 and still come to tears at the sight of that amazing Belmont victory; athletic perfection!
I was also 14 in '73. Secretariat was the best because that was when I was so young.
I am a witness as well
Me too! I was 12 years old. I remember sitting cross-legged on the shag carpet in our den!😂 Probably the top sports event I’ve ever witnessed in my life‼️❤️
@@pattibrazil3659 I had just turned 13 two weeks his Belmont win for the ages!!
Secs records still stand. I think that says it all. Animals get sick and have issues. The question is who is the best when they were at their best? There’s no question. Secretariat.
Well Said.
Totally agree with your statement!! Well said!!! Secretariat was, and still is the GOAT of all race horses!!!
He lost 25% of the time. LOL. If not for his 31-length win in the Belmont, he'd be looked at by most as "just another great horse". That was a herculean effort. He was the best 3-year old, yes. He was certainly not the best 4 year old. Spectacular bid lost 13% of the time, has more track records at more distances at more tracks than Secretariat. He ran the 1 1/4 OVER a second faster than Secretariat.
@@craptainofsea he still holds the records for all 3 dude. What are you even talking about. Not only was he not 100% healthy his career. He had a human aspect of thinking to him. He didn’t race as a 4 year old dude. He was the best 2 year old. Do your research before you speak.
@@crannyscustoms True. He does. But he lost 25% of the time. Losing every 1/4 times you compete...is middle of the road. So yeah, great triple crown series. Shit the bed before and after that.
Cmon Secretariat is the best of all time!! No other horse comes close. Beautiful and cool the way the horse always looked at the camera. Heart was two times the size of a normal horse. More horsepower!!!!
I totally agree but even the GREAT BIG RED was not undefeated. That is just one reason I say it isn't fair to pick one as BEST EVER.
JeffB Lengths cmon he left the others in the dust! You can't even see the rest of the field in the home stretch barely in the Belmont. He won by 31 lengths! Cmon 😁 So beautiful too he was! Google who was the fasted race horses 🐴 of all time. Big Red wins!
One race doesn't make a horse and Secretariat was a pig as a sire something everyone seems to forget. Without a doubt Dan Patch of the old era and "The Freak Of Nature" Mission Brief of the modern era are the two greatest racehorses of all time. As well the offspring of Mission Brief will rewrite all the record books with One Alpha One and Kadena.
parkerbohnn Look at the lengths "Big Red" won by! HA! 😁.... not just any race 🏁 it was a SPECTACLE!!!!
@@lindamoore3729 Have you ever seen a major stakes race where one horse is one to nine and the complete rest of the field is 99 to one? Only the "freak of nature" Mission Brief. Like I said when One Alpha One and Kadena (the offspring of Mission Brief) hit the racetrack after this Covid fiasco no one will remember Secretariat.
I think it is indisputable that secretariat was the greatest race horse ever, he was so outstanding that people watch his races over and over again, every time with uncontrollable emotions, the kind that brings you to tears, secretariat connected with peoples heart, thats what solidifies his superiority!
Watching Secretariat win the Belmont was the only time in my 64 years I saw perfection. I'm not a big race fan but that race brings tears every time I see it.
Wow, lol
@ Lorraine Lloyd Why is that funny.? A lot of people cried after Secretariat, won the Belmont and became the 1st triple crown champion, in 25 years. People, were looking for something to cheer about. The country was still in the midst of the Vietnam War, and Watergate. And equine perfection, was witnessed on that day. A 31 length victory, and a world record to boot, that still stands 48 years later, and counting. A record that will probably, never be topped.
@@lorrainelloyd7750 Lorraine I'm glad I amuse you. My life is divided between before my daughter was killed and after. Watching that Belmont is a very memorable event from before I knew what pain is. And it does bring a tear to my eyes. That day I and a lot of people from my age group believe we saw perfection.in that wonderful horse. It lasted only 2:24 but after the terrorist attack at the 72 Olympics and Vietnam War it was very emotional.
Didn't Secretariat run on an easier surface than horses that came before him like Man O War?
When some horse comes along and beats Secretariats Triple Crown records, then lets talk! Big Red has been gone close to 44 years and in that time at least 2,000,000 foals have been born ,and no horse has done it yet!!!! I'm still waiting
I think both of us will die waiting, lets just celebrate that we got to witness such a fantastic athlete
@horselover you are an idiot by your own remarks. What kind of horses have we had, cant win blah blah blah. The question was who is the greatest race horse of all time. Yeah, the fix was in on that preakness thing. BEST RACE HORSE OF ALL TIME! Forget the record on the preakness if it was fixed (I wont mess with the tinfoil on your head, obviously it was a conspiracy). Sorry if I shove down your throat HE WON THE BELMONT BY 31 LENGTHS!!!! AND whether you like it all three times still stand in the record books.
@Gord Merritt I’m sorry but I really think horselover has some kind of mental illness. He/she comments in just about every horse related thread and finds some reason to say that Secretariat wasn’t that great and we’ve all been brainwashed into thinking so. This video is idiotic. So Zenyatta is the best horse ever because she’s tall? Does that mean that Robert Wadlow was the greatest person to ever live because he was the tallest?
@@Whoopdido777 And Andre the giant could probably win any race in the olympics in his time lol.
horse lover forgets that Sham also broke the derby record in that race. It just didn't count because after Secretariat crossed the finish line it wasn't the derby record anymore.
You could argue all day about the second-greatest horse of all time, and there are probably a dozen horses that you could make a case for, Man o' War, Kelso, Seabiscuit, Citation, Forego, Spectacular Bid, Dr. Fager, Affirmed, Seattle Slew... but Secretariat is and likely always will be the greatest of them all.
I heard that Secretariat ran on a much more forgiving surface than those other older horses. I dont know how true it is but if they ran on different surfaces then it could make a difference in times.
@@CC-jl7jz I've seen it said, and I have no reason to doubt it, that tracks today are about one second faster than they were in Secretariat's day; synthetic tracks are definitely faster than dirt. It's possible that tracks in Secretariat's day were faster than those that, say, Man o' War ran on, but I don't know that for sure. But even with the tenfold growth in the number of foals per year, improved equipment, improved training, improved nutrition, Lasix and other meds, and synthetic tracks, no horse has broken Secretariat's times in the classics. No doubt some horse will, sometime, but when they do they'll have all the advantages of modern technology that Secretariat didn't have.
@@johnhunter2294 you bring up good points. I love looking at videos of Secretariat. He was definitely the most graceful horse ever in my opinion.
Man o" War was even larger than Secretariat and was the original Big Red. That said, he won 20 races and only lost his last race due to Jockey error. The race tracks were nothing compared to todays or even the tracks Secretariat raced on. He also carried enormous weights, a handicap to give other horses a chance. Better than Secretariat? But definitely if not the best, than surely the 2nd greatest horse that ever lived. He also had a stride length of 28' (most of any horse). Secretariats stride length was 25'.
Fager 22: 18-2-1 out of the money ONCE
The real debate is trying to determine which horse is the second best of all time. Because Secretariat is the greatest.
I've seen them all live and "the freak of nature" Mission Brief is by far the greatest racehorse and broodmare of all time. You'll learn and learn well when the entire world talks about One Alpha One and Kadena and no one remembers Secretariat.
@@parkerbohnn Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's Correct. The race is for 2nd place.
Yeah, Lol. Trying to compare a standard bred filly trotter, to Secretariat. The only similarity they had, is that they were both horses.
You can't be serious.
Secretariat was the greatest horse, by all measures. Zenyatta was a fine race horse.
Pmsfl not Kelso was the greatest horse ever by a long way
I have to agree, though I love the queen immensely! SHE'S MY GIRL, TOO! A great supplier of joy. And no other, had her grit and determination! However, Secretariat was the 'man'! Champion of the world! Unsurpassable
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I remember watching Big Red run when I was 10, when I watch his races, I still tear up and cry… I can still hear the announcer, hes running like a tremendous machine…he got faster every 1/4 mile…let that sink in, he was running faster and faster. Big Red will be in our hearts for ever. He truly was gods race horse and god let us enjoy his great creation.
"was gods race horse and god let us enjoy" - Just saying - - - Capitalizing when it comes to God Almighty is important. According to the Bible, lowercase means something very different - 1 Corinthians 8: 5,6 "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ" Amen...
Was the same age, and have exactlu the dame feeling every time I watch it
The late Chick Anderson "He is moving like a tremendous Machine"
was the greatest call at the "Belmont" back in 1973...
49 years ago Secretariat set records in all three races of the Triple Crown that still stand to this day. Until those records fall, especially the Belmont Stakes, Secretariat will be considered the greatest race horse who ever lived.
Not even close. Zenyatta, while a great horse, simply isn't a Super Horse. Secretariat by 10,000 noses.
man o war would’ve beaten secretariat by 15+ lengths
@@maxwellh.4471 Hence all Secretariats records. But you are allowed to fantasize.
Robert Frias who has more losses: man O war or secretariat?
Robert Frias keep in mind secretariat raced against little competition, in better turf conditions, better shoes, lighter weights and still managed to lose more than man o war.
@@underscore2824 World Record holder of 25 Group One races and winner of $26+ million.
Secretariat could come from behind or just flat ass lead the race and Win! Sorry Secretariat gets the Nod!
Though man o' War didn't win the Triple Crown, it wasn't for lack of trying; he was not entered in the Kentucky Derby. Secretariat never directly sired a triple crown winner. Man o' War's son War Admiral did win it.
0217ldp the triple crown wasn’t around when man o war was
Come from behind, how about dead last multiple times then come around the outside on the turn to win.
"Moving like a Tremendous Machine",Only the mighty Secretariat could be described like that.
Thrilled me when I saw it on theWide World
For me Secretariat is the most inspiring and greatest racehorse of all time!!
YES INDEED !! ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.....*.. ANY ERA !!
Who's Second is the better question, because Secretariat is First!
Sham could be argued
Sham!
Second... Man-O-War
Skee bo ...Secretariat...just my opinion...RIP Big Red!
Winx
Phar Lap travelled for months, raced injured, tip weight and still beat the best in the US. He won 4 majors at The Flemington Carnival in 7 days, there has and will never be another horse like him RIP big Red
AS much as we Aussies love Big red, I think Secretariat was a bee's dick better. Both had big hearts.
@@dennisdobin8640 he was only a three yo and I doubt he carry the weight pharlap had to carry
@@russe19642 I really like to think that Pharlap could beat Secretariat,maybe on any other day than when Secretariat won the Belmont,As I said on that day not a horse born would have beaten him.Some time ago,a American racehorse handicapper retired and was ask which was the best horse he had ever seen,and they put up the names of all the Champs,including Sea Biscuit and Secretariat. He said Pharlap.
@@dennisdobin8640 yeah but I wonder drugs didnt play apart then before today's standards. Cocaine was a drug of choice, a performance enhancer and was easily available then. But can you imagine living those days without the technology we have now?Also I'm amazed why horseracing is probably the only sport outside of soccer to have such a following still.
@@russe19642 Yeah they could have been give them performance enhancing drugs,but Secretariat was like Phar Lap,had a real big heart,big stride.And racing is one of the sport where performance has not advanced like other sports.I think a horse called Tulloch held the 1 1-2 mile record for decades ,Vain I still think holds some kind of record,and if they where all getting speed up you imagine,they may nudging his times? No he was a freak,just like Phar Lap. The one think we do know is there will never be a horse capable of doing what Phar Lap did in the spring of 1930,maybe Carbine.
We forgot ruffian never lost a race either but secretariat is the true king of the track
I was at the track on the day Ruffian broke down in the match race, I was only 13 years old but I was there with my older brother. I gave my brother my $6 dollars to bet on Ruffian for me and I still have my three $2 tickets. I am still convinced she would have won.
She was leading over Foolish Pleasure when she broke down. It was very very sad.
She was super talented: she had run a mile and a half in 2.27.4 once. Quick!
I was also there, what a sad day for racing. Ruffian, might have been the best filly, ever. She also was the best looking filly, I have ever seen.
While I fully recognize that in a very real sense Ruffian did not "lose" the match race -- it was an incomplete race for her -- breakdowns or any other reason resulting in failure to complete a race does count as a loss. Her career record is 11:10-0-0.
Secretariat was not just a horse but a greatest legendary athelete of all time..... Secretariat was an emotion, connection, feeling and love for the generation of 19th century to 21st century...people......His greatness is Unmatchable....An Art of Perfection made by God.....
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Secretariat would start out last on purpose, he just enjoyed passing each horse one by one, that is swagger.
Secretariat was a very poor starter; he would lean on the back door of the gate rather than leaning on the front getting ready to run. That's why he was generally back in the pack early in his races. He was so much stronger than the other horses, though, that it didn't really matter if he got off to a slow start. He had quarter-horse speed (see his move in the Preakness) and steeplechaser stamina. Hands down the GOAT.
Big Red, the immortal Secretariat
Secretariat is once in a lifetime. Touched by god.
One Alpha One and Kadena
Secretariat lost 1/4 of his races. LOL. Yeah. That sounds superior. lol.
Secretariat is moving like a tremendous machine! What a line from commentator Chic
You really think God gives a shit about horse racing.
Secretariat is hands down the best racehorse that ever set a hoof on a track…. The record book shows that… of course, having a heart over two times the size of a normal horse, didn’t hurt..
over 20 lbs compared to about 8.5 average
Secretariat head and sholders. He was not perfect nothing in nature is, but he was as close as it gets
I have to respectfully disagree. For 2:24 minutes in his Belmont he was perfection.
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He also lost 3 races his 3 year old season. He was 9 for 12, 75%. That is not perfect.
Round Table doped to the eyeballs
Not true at all! Fager was 10x the horse of Secretariat and Raise A Native was better than all. You are showing your colors!
@@roundtable3501 He ran sick in two of those races, including the Whitney when Turcotte told Laurin that he couldn't run in the race, actually begged him not to run him. The third was to Prove Out who, to this day, is still the only other horse in history to run under 2:26 for a mile and a half.
Secretariat is the best of all time, the greatest race horse who ever lived.
he lost 1/4 of his races. lol. That's uhhhh...not that great. Yeah...excellent triple crown series...but that's it. The rest...lol..
@@craptainofsea >>> All I can say to that is you're entitled to your opinion.
@@craptainofsea Hello 50 years later his 3 track records still stand
Secretariat is the best has broken all records as i see it
What your missing is that things changed after the Ruffian disaster! Throw out ANY race time record before Ruffian! When she broke down in a match race in NY on national TV in 1975 there was a HUGE outcry in the country!! Why? Because U.S. racetracks were groomed to be lighting fast by reducing the cushion or depth of the surfaces!! The number of injuries and deaths was deemed to be a cruel treatment of the horses. Even veteran writers had to agree that the emphasis on times was manufactured by altering the surfaces! (Also note the contested race time of Red's Preakness win!!) Owners and trainers were in agreement! Much of this was kept out of the press to maintain the image and high interest in the sport!! There were also concerns about racing on frozen tracks (many track records were set on frozen surfaces)and at the time many race cards were cancelled in the northeast for years! So your comment about "faster tracks now" is TOTALLY inaccurate, in fact it's just the opposite!! In 21 starts W-16 P-3 S-1 career winnings $1,316, 900!! He was sent to stud where he turned out to be a failure and even the owners regretted not continuing with racing! IF you want to see one of the real champions of all time then google KELSO 63 starts(3 times the number of starts by Red and over twice the number of wins (39) W-39 P-12 S-2 and $1,977, 900 from purses, a full 10 years before Big Red!!!! Raced until 9 years of age!! Won 6 of 8 races at age 8!! 5 time horse of the year the next closest is 3 and Red is 2!! Carried weights of 136 pounds and spotted rivals as much as 18 pounds! Red never carried more than 126! Kelly set 9 track records. STILL owns the record for 2 miles on dirt!! Set an american record for 1.5 miles on the TURF!! Red was maybe the best 3 year old of all time maybe even of the seventies but NOT the best "RACE" horse of ALL time NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!! ALL distances, ALL tracks, ALL weights, ALL earnings, ALL wins, ALL surfaces Kelso was at the top of ALL TIME!!!!
Hi i im pilipino. I am very very fun of horse racing even i did not ever watch an horse racing in personal but i watch so many horse racing here in youtube. And my favoritr horse is secretariat . and i think secretariat is better than zenyatta. Size does not matter.
Seabiscuit is for me the best racehorse ever,because he was not a "normal horse".He was much smaller,had knobby knees etc....Imagine what he could have done if that wasn't the case. But above all...what he did for the people in that periode,was more amazing than his victories. He brought the whole nation together in those very difficult times.He was a true hero back then and still is.Most famous quote in history of horseracing...So long,Charley by Red Pollard 😄😄
I actually think the best horse was Mr. Ed because he could talk and that's way better than a fast horse.
@balerick48, Secretariat was not on steroids! I have done extensive reading on anabolic steroids or long acting, and short acting steroids. There is no scientific proof that steroids make a horse go faster! In fact, the short term steroid will make a horse go nuts and try to kill a human! After the Belmont, Secretariat looked pretty docile to me, which was his normal personality! Seriously people, before you accuse, read! He was beautiful, smart, well bred, fast and durable!
Well I train athletes for a living and I can say none of what u said makes any sense. Ok for starters the combination which was favored heavily in the 70s was winstrol v and equipose. Equipose was longer acting "5 days" between administrations. Equipose would increase protein synthesis building muscle much faster, allowing recovery from training in hours not days. Winstrol was short acting given everyday to every other day. Winstrol helped with explosive strength and performance. Both steroids are favored in the racing industry for 1 critical reason. They cause no water retention and will actually reduce any subcutaneous water issues the horse may have. Steroids don't just make humans and horse's go faster lol. Steroids will have that effect on any lifeforms there administered to.
You said short term steroids would make a horse go nuts. I'm not sure where your getting this information. There are two types of steroids androgenic and anabolic. Androgenic mimics all the strong male characteristics of the testosterone naturally produced by a man. Characteristics like aggression, strength, virility etc..
Anabolic steroids were designed to have the muscle building and performance enhancing effects of testosterone without the side effects (mood swings, aggression, hair loss, acne etc). Horses are given strictly anabolic steroids to aid in their performance. Androgenic steroids are used mostly by human athletes who want to gain size and don't mind the water retention associated with heavy androgenic compounds
1) Secretariat 2) War Admiral 3) Seabiscuit
just my opinion, but Secretariat consistently showed the heart and the kick through the last quarter mile annialating his opponents through to the end.. it would have been a great match race to see Secretariat and Seabiscuit head to head..
Secretariat was the greatest horse because he leaves other horses like a lot of meters (300 m) behind him and his record was les then 1 min also there is no horse yet that has passed his record
Your logic is flawed when it comes to comparing Sec and Dahlia. Experts disagree with you.
It's etched in stone Dan Patch was the greatest horse of all times. No single horse even compares to the immortal Dan Patch.
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I think, in Europe, they now water the tracks so that the running isn't too firm, to protect the horses; that also means the tracks aren't so fast as they once were.
parkerbohnn horseshit
She Couldnt Beat Secretariat On Her Best Day
She could if Big red had a coffee first, while she started. Then maybe by a nose.
Nice breakdown! You could argue she is the greatest mare of all time though a lot of old timers will say Ruffian was better. I think Zenyatta was the greatest mare of time. But with all that said Secretariat is still the one and only greatest horse of all time. All you have to do is watch the Belmont or look at his times in the classic races.
ZENYATTA IS NOT THE GREATEST MOST OF THE TIME SHE RACED THE SAME LOWESY HORSES.HER TIMES NEVER CAME CLOSE TO BEATING SECRETARIATS TIMES.WHO EVER MADE THIS IS CRAZY.
SECRETARIAT THE GREATEST RACE HORSE OF ALL TIME
julie hertz I think Phar Lap, Eclipse ,Man o War and Kincsem are the best
totally agree until the other horses can win the triple crown by more than 33 length Secretariat is the best
I believe it was 31, however, no horse on record comes close to this statistic at the Belmont in 1973. Fast forward 44 years. No other horse on record has broken his Triple Crown efforts and numbers since 1973!
Finally someone sane
It's etched in stone Dan Patch was the greatest horse of all times. No single horse even compares to the immortal Dan Patch.
what I actually meant to say is that Secretariat is my first best horse and he'll always be my first best horse and Seabiscuit is my second best horse and ruffian is my third best horse and Zenyatta is my fourth.
Secretariat win by 30 or so lengths is the apex of horse racing for me, but seabisquits unusual rise and then to stay there, racing at an age that's unheard of, kinda the Tom Brady of horses. I gotta give it to both, but there are many contenders that had amazing careers.
Secretariat hands down.
I want to add that I never cared much for horse racing, but for a short time in my life Secretariat captured the hearts of the world.
you do realize that's taking a risk saying that. NOW we all know Secretariat had a huge heart. Which gave him more oxygen in his lungs TO go as fast as he wanted and beyond. Zenny only has regular lungs far as we know. Between two dirt horses........nobody knows. BOTH are great in their era's. BUT Zenny would have to race Secretariat on fair terms to tell. They'd need a match race. So all you people have no clue who is better.
Redbev. Zenyatta only had a wee heart.
u think secretariat is overated?? yeah there goes ur credibility
It's etched in stone Dan Patch was the greatest horse of all times. No single horse even compares to the immortal Dan Patch.
Sorry but she's not running down BIG RED
The original Big Red, Man O' War!
If zenyattas in front secretariat not running her down!...works both ways... you ever heard of another horse were post position didn't matter.. you put Zenyatta and let her run there's no telling what she would have done
No one would
, Supposition does not count. If it didn't happen-- you have no idea.
Check the video comparing Man O' War and Secretariat. Secretariat exceed Man O' War in EVERY category.
Secretariat v Pharlap. What a match race that would be.
that's right. secretariat. loved that horse.
I love all the horses, but for me secretariat is the # 1 and still stands forever, my beautiful big boy secretariat
Secretariat is the goat by miles. No horse comes close to be compared in any way to him. I watched him back in 73 and he was just amazing.
Secretariat would have made short work of this horse. Fact
krazyhorse357 Ruffian Man o War and Phar Lap would beat Zenyatta easyly
Kraz
Prove it. Sec lost 3 races as a 3 year old. He was certainly NOT invincible.
look up what Secretariat's trainer, Lucien Lauren said about Ruffian. His sentence said it all
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The legendary Pharlap of course. An amazing freakish beautiful true galloper of all time. He was so good in fact, that when he travelled to the states to compete with their best thorobreds, the yanks tragically poisoned him, in his stalls. They knew Big Red was going to kick their best hacks right in their arses too! Tommy Woodcock was so heartbroken. He never got over the loss. RIP Tommy & Big Red.🇦🇺☮️
Fowler's solution was given to him by his GROOM.
No horse will ever beat the records that Secretariat set.
dsauce223 they drug test a bit more stringent these days
bruh Kincsem should beat that guy
His run times were phenomenal in some races, but he showed plenty of mortality, as he was a bit inconsistent. He may be responsible for running the most impressive race in the history of the sport, but i do not believe that qualifies him as the best horse of all time.
@@georgeratkovich7161 He won three of the greatest races of all time. The three top races in the world. With record times still standing today. Against one of the greatest horses, Sham. He lost only two important races, at least one of them with an abscess in his mouth. He was one of the most consistent horses ever. Your arguments of his "mortality" come from a place of ignorance. Also, the majority of the arguments presented here to name Zenyatta as the best is totally idiotic.
@@bruno_dias I am not discrediting Secretariat's accomplishments. the discussion was who was the greatest horse of all time. Most people are unaware that Secretariat lost 2 of his next 4 races after the Belmont. Also, he was retired at the age of 3, and never took on a campaign or a season against older horses. The Triple Crown is limited to 3 year olds. I do believe he ran the best race of all time in the Belmont, but that does not mean he proved to be the best horse of all time. i think that distinction belongs to a horse that raced for a few years, and was a consistent Grade 1 winner on turf and on dirt, won at different distances, and won at different tracks. A durable horse that stood the test of time. Frankly, I am not sure we will ever know who that is, and in my opinion Secretariat's resume falls a bit short in that regard. i appreciate the conversation.
Secretariat,is the best,just look at time in all three races,Some still stand today.
All three triple crown race records still stand!
Ruffian is better than him secreteriat's Trainer said it in her film too!
Secretariat also broke the record at the Travers race after the Triple crown,
and was sent to Canada on his last race, and broke the Canadian record against
their champion Kennedy Rhodes.
Consequently, Secretariat broke the Great Canadian horse; Northern Dancers record time in
his last race!
Just look at the times in each race.....who wins? Big Red.
Hard to argue against this logic.
Yes 👍 thank you 🙏
Secretariat's still holds the track record in the Derby, Preakness and Belmont.
In the mile 1/2 Belmont he ran the first 6 furlongs in 109 and 2, ( fastest 2/3 of a mile) and the race in 2.40. Opening down the stretch. I saw it live. It was breathtaking. When witnesses say ," people were crying," as he finished the race, it was hundreds and maybe thousands. Overwhelmed!
When my kids said they were going to see the movie I told them," no matter the film craft, direction or special effects, and music, it could only fail to recapture the moment.
For people who didn't see it live, I can only hope they get to see something like the Belmont on that day in their lives. Nothing matched it since.
How lucky are you 😍
Farma Way owns the Preakness distance record 153 2/5
Zenyatta? No. Just no. Secretariat still holds the fastest Derby, Preakness, and Belmont times. Not to mention the length of victory at the Belmont. This is absolutely laughable. In fact, Zenyatta would not have beaten Seattle Slew.
I saw the slew many times at woodbine in my youth and I agree.
Chad Thornsberry man o war would’ve beaten secretariat by 15+ lengths
@@maxwellh.4471 LOL! Thanks, we needed your sarcasm and joke!
Star Blazers damn bro you got the whole squad laughing 😐
There's no way zenyatta could beat Seattle slew, Man o' War might have beaten secretariat in a match race, but everyone forgets about count fleet. He won the belmont by 25 lengths. Only 6 lengths of secretariat. I think we should give count fleet some credit for that.
Secretariat. Hands down. Belmont 1973 is unmatchable.
Gives me goosebumps watching that race
One Alpha One and Kadena
@@parkerbohnn you’re gonna come back here in time crying pal cause that Belmont will never be beaten- it is, without any doubt, THE greatest athletic performance, by man or beast, in the history of the planet- the greatest athletic achievement bar none and will stand for eternity abs to think differently is to be a f-0-0-l!
@@green_acres_7240 I've seen them all run back to the mid 1960's and the best horse I've seen is Mission Brief a standardbred trotter. As well I believe the offspring of Mission Brief that being so far "One Alpha One" and "Kadena" will make everyone forget Secretariat.
Here's the horse I think will be the next big thing bought for a lousy $35,000.
Lancaster Bomber.
www.allbreedpedigree.com/lancaster+bomber2
Secretariat.... hands down. I love the Seabiscuit story and all, but big Red was an Anatoly. It's heart was twice as large as a normal racehorse. His Belmont record will never be broken.
Oh for god's sake. Just look at the Secretariat's times over any distance. No other horse is close.
Phar Lap. Ran with up to 68kg handicap and still dominated.
Edward Deitch they used to say that about ben johnsons times, just saying. Losing 3 times as a 3 yr old takes the gloss off
the thing is, Phar Lap comes close.
Easy goer easily beat Secretariats track record in the Gothom.
Spectacular Bid holds the world record in the mile and a quarter. Faster than Big Red’s Kentucky Derby time.
I'm sorry...Secretariat is the best of them all! based on time record...he makes records pulling away ! take easy! Zen will eat dust !
Wrong
@@glennhubanks4729 what does that even mean.
Wilt Chamberlain and Secretariat are the G.O.A.T.
Both retired in 1973, both had the largest hearts, physically.
Both still own the records book.
Chamberlain scored with more fillies.
Didn't Bill Russell have more championship? I might consider him the goat of that era.
Kareem and Bill Russell
It comes down to “Times” and “Conditions”. I’m not so sure Zenatta is the best filly let alone the best racehorse of all time. The immortal Ruffian won every race she ran in with the exception of her match race against Foolish Pleasure where she broke down. Personal Ensign was also an undefeated filly who beat the boys and what about Rachel Alexander who won the Oaks, Preakness, Haskell and Woodward. Secretariat’s times in the Kentucky Derby, Preakness and Belmont Stakes stand today. I think that Zenyatta is a wonderful horse but to say she’s the best racehorse of all time is borderline absurd.
I agree with you I don't think Zenyatta could of beat Rachel Alexandra her 3 year old campaign that season she mostly won on synthetic anyhow her Classic win was on synthetic not impressed she was set to run at Churchchill one time before on the Oaks card I belive it rained she probley didn't run well on muddy tracks don't know of health issues she was scratched don't know for sure just an opinion telling people to bet Blame to win he would win the Classic at Churchchill Downs & people kept telling me no way would he beat Zenyatta what happened no one who said that made a commet to me neither did i to individuals who told me that until months after the race didn't want seem like I was bragging about being correct & rubbing it in she may be in top 10 high but not the greatest or greatest Philly just an opinion most of wins were on synthetic so not imprrssed.
The man who does the speed ranking for racing forms still ranks Secretariat #1.
no one will believe you😛
Right you are. Beyer. I would consider that to be pretty solid evidence, about who the greatest race horse of all times was.
The Beyer Speed Figure is a system for rating the performance of thoroughbred racehorses in North America designed in the early 1970s by Andrew Beyer, the syndicated horse racing columnist for The Washington Post. Beyer retrospectively rated Secretariat's 1973 Belmont performance at 139, the highest rating he ever awarded. In comparison, the last two Triple Crown winners recorded Beyers of 105 (American Pharoah) and 101 (Justify) in their Belmont wins. Secretariat was simply jaw-dropping fast, the best ever.
Does everybody realize War Admiral and Seabiscuit were close kin? War Admiral was the son of Man o' War; Seabiscuit was his grandson. I love Zenyatta; she was the most perfect mare since Ruffian. I just love race horses!
Secretariat has the record and ALL THREE Triple races. CHECK MATE!!! The best EVER!!!!
All of Secretariat's record from the Triple Crown still stand almost 50 years later
Your wrong secretariat was the greatest horse of all time still holds records to this day
I still think Secretariat is better than Zenyatta
great comments one and all, but the great thing about these races is that they are all timed. While I understand that not all of these horses run in the same countries, let alone the same races, there is only one horse who has run the Kentucky Derby in under 2 minutes, and it is the same horse that set the record in the Preakness and the Belmont. The Belmont record is a full 2 seconds faster than the next fastest horse. Secretariat did lose some races, once he clearly was sick, the others were probably due to poor handling. But in terms of the fastest horse that has ever been clocked at these races, secretariat is without a doubt the fastest racehorse. If you think otherwise, look it up. The final thing I will add is that there is good evidence, when looking at Kentucky Derby times, that breeding has gradually, but almost certainly, resulted in a limit to the speed a thoroughbred can run. Secretariat's success was probably due to a genetic mutation passed to him through his maternal line with variable penetrance. His offspring did not have it. Steroids and drugs did not give him his cardiovascular changes. But they died with him. The subsequent winners' times are all close but not below 2 minutes.
zenyatta is the best
Tamara Ramirez I agree!
Tamara......WHY? List WHY you think so. In all reality.....why. You can't just SAY that. Prove it by telling us why.
Tamara doesn't have to PROVE a damn thing, to you or anyone else.
It is her opinion that Secretariat is better than Zenyatta ... an OPINION. An opinion is not rocket science - it could be she simply loves flashy chestnuts.
Relax. It's only TH-cam.
How could Secretariat be sterile if he sired some 600 horses? It is said that great racehorses rarely duplicate themselves. A breeder said he was not a disappointment as a stud. He was also a virgin until age 3, when he was retired from racing and became a stud. 🏇
he was not sterile, he had "immature sperm." He sired some very good, though not great horses.
@@meritz59 "He [Secretariat] sired some very good, though not great horses."
*Secretariat sired one unquestionably great horse, Hall of Famer and 1986 Horse of the Year Lady's Secret.* She's not in the running for greatest U.S. mare of all time; not in a class with Zenyatta, Busher, Ruffian, Gallorette or Personal Ensign, for example. But Lady's Secret (45:25-9-3, with 22 stakes wins) was a slam dunk Hall of Famer who was elected in her first year of eligibility. A panel of seven experts ranked her #76 in Blood Horse's 1999 (mistitled) "Top 100 Racehorses of the 20th Century," and I think she deserved to be a bit higher. (The Blood Horse book is misnamed, it's really a list of Thoroughbreds who ran on the flat in the 20th C. with at least one start in North America.)
It's possible Secretariat son Risen Star (11:8-2-1), champion 3-yr-old male in 1988 and winner of the Preakness and Belmont, would have turned out to be a great horse if he had not been injured in the Belmont and subsequently retired. And as you allude to, Secretariat sired some other very good racers.
@@marysueeasteregg Another son, Kingston Rule won the 1990 Melbourne Cup (Australia's premier horse race) in record time, and that record still stands in 2021.
The answer is Secretariat. And if we last another 1000 years it will still be Secretariat. It will always be Secretariat.
Lady your smoking something if you think Zenyatta is better than Secretariat.Zenyattas owner's even stated when she got the Secretariat award,they were overwhelmed and Honored to have her mentioned in the same sentence as Secretariat.
Secretariat 1st, by a length. Loved watching John Henry run back in the 1980s.
John Henry, now that was a racehorse!!!!
For longevity, agree. In their primes, Secretariat by much more than a length.
@@snelson0929 About 31 lengths?
Personally my favorite horse was Forego. He raced and lost to Secretariat on the Kentucky Derby. But as a gelding, he had a long and winning years of racing after that race. He was one of the largest horses I have seen in horse racing.
Sorry.. Secretariat was the greatest...Zenyatta was amazing, however Ruffian, Landaluce and Genuine Risk were unbelievably great fillies... and of course throw in Kincsem...
karton which . Zenyatta’s competition was mediocre with the exception of Blame!
U forgot to mention Rachel Alexandra
man o war would’ve beaten secretariat by 15+ lengths
@@maxwellh.4471 It is impossible to know for sure but Man o Wars Belmont 1 1/2 mile record is 2:28 4/5ths and Secretariat's record 2:24 so Secretariat wins based on that. they were both 3 year olds so pretty even physically.
@ Johnathan Hunt. I think it is possible to know for sure. You are correct, about both times. Secretariat's time was just about 5 seconds faster, than Man O' Wars. Also, what most Fan's don't realize is, Secretariat, carried 126 lbs, as opposed to Man O' Wars 118 lbs. Also, Man O' Wars time for 1 1/2 miles, came in the Jockey Club Gold Cup, not the Belmont. The Belmont was run @ 1 3/8 miles in 1920. As I have mentioned in previous comments, if 1 second equals 5 lengths, on a flat dirt oval racing service, given both horses times, that means that Secretariat, would have beaten Man O' War by about 25 lengths. Sounds ridiculous right.? But the clock, doesn't lie. Give Man O' War 3 seconds, for steel shoes, and a lesser race track, and that's being generous, Secretariat, still wins by 10 lengths.
I think Secretariat is the greatest.
im shure zanyatta is not the best racehorse i think that is secretariat, he won the Belmont with 31 fucking lengts the belmond is the hardest race so im shure secretariat is the best race horse
+TheFarmerfitz Of all time? Do you discount all the European and Australasian horses? Give me Frankel, Black Caviar, Phar Lap, Sea the Stars, Treve, Sea Bird, Makybe DIva any day. American horses need to travel outside US and race serious horses as well.
Jack Nolan you people are replying to a comment my 13 yr old daughter made. Lol
Then she will be thanking me that I introduced her to some genuine horses!
+Jack Nolan lol... Maybe....
Fifty years later and here we are and no challengers since 1973 to step up to the starting gate. He is and was God's only horse.
A very easy question: the King of all Horses, Secretariat
Seabiscuit! He was the underdog in every race! He was remarkable!
Wouldn't have stood a chance against Secretariat.
@@timbishop9062 people said he was no match for War Admiral, they were wrong
@@Airedale721 They were absolutely wrong. I think they did a measurement of Secretariat and War Admiral at the Belmont and Secretariat would've still beaten War Admiral by 19 lengths.
Secrtariat the "PEGASUS" of the Human World, no horse has been to achieve it
Secretariat would have left her in the dust...look at the times he posted!!!! Nothing else need be said! He rose to the occasion time after time
Love this video. There really is no single "greatest" racehorse. There are several, and you did a good job including them.
Secretariat Won The Triple Crown- Also I Love Secretariat !!!
She was awesome, she was bigger , why was she slower. There will never be another horse that could even warm Secretariat up.
Over 1 1/8 - 1 1/4, Dr. Fager would've warmed him up alright. Over 1 1/2 though, no horse was staying with Sec. at the peak of his skills.
@ Lain Iwakura I don't think anyone, can question, how fast Dr. Fager was. I believe, he still holds the world record, for 1 mile 1:32 1/5th, set in 1968. And, for whatever reason, he was faster @ 1/1/4 miles, than he was @ 1/1/8 miles, when you compare the times, for both distances. I will say this, Dr Fager, was the faster horse up to 1 1/16th. I will take Secretariat, @ 1 1/8th and beyond. But 3 of Dr Fager's, 1 1/4 mile times, are right there with Secretariat. Here are his times: 1:59 4/5ths, 1:59 3/5ths, and 1:59 1/5th, a race he finished 1st in, but was disqualified, and placed 4th. Secretariat: @ 1:1/4. 1:59: 2/5ths, Derby. 1:59 flat, in the Belmont Stakes. 1:57 4/5ths, clocked, while galloping out the extra furlong distance, after setting a world record for 1 1/8th, 1:45 2/5ths. Dr Fager was ranked as the 6th greatest U.S. racehorse, of the 20th Century, by Blood Horse magazine.
I have been watching racing for more than fifty years and usually the locals pick their favorite horse as the all time best , for me all you can reasonably do is declare your favorite "one of the Greats " and leave it at that . Otherwise you just kid yourself because we will never know and in any case a horses performance is dependent on many things such as distance and going and can vary greatly from one race to the next . Therefore I declare that Mr. Ed was probably the greatest .
Secretariat, and argue all you like on who's 2nd, There's so many that could be 2nd, but only one that can be 1st.
secretariat is the best
Secretariat was not a failure as a stud! He produced some great brood mares. How could anybody expect him to reproduce himself? Even the most prestigious thoroughbred breeders said that Secretariat was not a failure as a stud! Greatness takes time. I truly believe that he will appear again. Probably not in my lifetime, however with careful and mindful breeding, he will make himself known🏇
Never said he was a failure at stud, he put some really good broadmares on the ground.Just not as dominate as he was racing.
My gosh this is worse than arguing about college football… You made an excellent point about secretariat’s broodmares. At least someone knows what they’re talking about! It’s impossible to compare horses from different periods, but all things being equal… Secretariat has no equal.
Three of his descendants won the Belmont but not the triple crown.
@@cowboycarpenter8713 look up Risen Star!
@@cowboycarpenter8713 You're correct that Secretariat was not as dominate a sire as he was as a runner. But aside from a number of his daughters producing good racers (and esp. sires), Secretariat himself was a better than average sire of runners. Not a great sire of racehorses, as were his contemporaries Seattle Slew, Mr. Prospector and Alydar; but above average.
Secretariat, is the King by far.
Secretariat of course!!!!
You forgot Secretariat's incredible acceleration in the 1973 Preakness on the first turn. No horse has ever accelerated like that as it demonstrated how incredibly fast Secretariat was. But no doubt that 2:24 in the Belmont will never be tied or beaten. Anderson emphasized that fact as they showed the time several times. So let there be NO DOUBT as to WHO was the greatest of all time!
Secretariat, what that horse did, still stands today.
I think we all know secretariat and man o wat are pretty far up there 👍