Ahhh, happy anniversary everyone!!! To avoid potential confusion... - I am up to Chapter 15 (have not started yet) at the time of upload & have done both Red Ash & Overzone going into this event! I have NOT done anything past that!!! (I still don't know why people don't like Crow haha) - LOL if you peep my units & think "wtf" - you shall see in future uploads how some were acquired. My luck is an ongoing joke with me & chat now - Also...please don't come after me for my Hansel & Gretel takes LOL. I want to clarify that I DO like them a LOT. There's just something about their designs that feels...unbalanced..? Idk. - I am behind on uploading Nikke playthroughs but this one felt time sensitive to get priority on uploading ... because I had been saving multiple types of pulls to crack open as soon as the clock struck midnight for my birthday! (It felt fitting hehe) Anyway, I hope you're all getting lucky on your pulls & enjoying the anni!! 🤍🤍
@@staruchxNone of them suck, also you guys are not presenting any support for a real critical argument of why they suck. If certain people actually played the game, or payed more attention and read the story carefully they would realise these designs are extremely well made, with a lot of effort, the female dev Kim Jin-Ok in NIKKEʼs staff spoke about it in the NIKKE 2nd Anniversary stream; the proccess behind the designs and its facial expressions, not to mention they are thematically fitting, extremely well designed, especially Red Shoes. I think some people donʼt realise how good Old Tales thematic is and its inspired original adaptation of “The Red Shoes” by Hans Christian Andersen, plus all the other tales and its visual presentation, it was a beautiful form of art to re-tell these tales even if you donʼt necessarily know where it comes from but with an understandable meaning that yet feels genuine and again, original in NIKKE. I can easily form an specific argument about why every single design makes sense in the story; why they are well thought out character designs.
Here's the bit that in English translation kinda sounds weird to JP and KR players. In JP and KR versions (especially in the original KR version), the Goddess Squad and Cinderella's squad were "Fairy Tale models". But in EN version, they translated it into "Grimm's Model". This choice of translation has a huge problem - like Dorothy is from Wizards of Oz so she's not part of the Grimm Brothers' fairy tale compilations. On top of that, there's also Nikkes whose names stem from Hans Christian Anderson's works - like The Little Mermaid and The Red Shoes, which aren't from the Grimms' tales. The original term "Fairy Tale models" make sense because it doesn't limit the devs in incorporating which Fairy Tales as these Pilgrims' motifs. Now, there's bound to be smartass EN players who'd make fun at Shift-Up for including names that aren't from the Grimms' tales - despite them never intended it to be just Grimms' Tales to begin with. So, I do hope the EN translation team don't go overboard with their creative liberties because missing contexts and lore inaccuracies (that the devs didn't even do) could happen due to "English localization". Example of a damage that could stem from such "localization"? Many EN Genshin players, to this day, still don't know what a "Genshin" is.
That's one of the first things I noticed when playing! That the Goddess Squad has Wizard of Oz, Anderson, & Grimms stories (which I love). So I immediately got confused. If anything, I've seen more people assume that they are all Grimms based fairy tales, which creates a weird inaccuracy in itself, doesn't it?
@@vidianott Yeap. Especially confusing for the lore enthusiasts. The game's gameplay is simple (with some planning for the nuanced to team synergy and etc) so it's natural for players to be invested in the story and lore after they had their pew pew fun.
I don't really think it's all that deep. Think it's just a cool theme to have in the game. Grimms sounds cooler so give that moniker to the older cooler nikkes and Rapi can stay being the only fairy tale model
As a lore enthusiast, I completely agree. I seriously hated how localizations ruined the crucial moments. Like what you mentioned, when players was about to learn about what a "Genshin" is and due to localizations the EN players totally missed it. it's such a shame. They could have actually fixed it by just going with "Allogenes are people who hold Visions, with the potential of ascending to be an Archon. These people have other names too. For one, in Inazuma, they call them - the Genshins." and then pan to the game title. But no. They had to ruin it. Nikke is yet another game title that suffers this. Sigh.
As for Hansel and Gretel ngl I like how bold SU is with their designs. Also, I do appreciate how A-tier sassy brats they are. But at least they're no Syuen. (Headpats them)
37:14 Well.. they also have technology that creates super cyborg anime girls. They're clothes can probably do that. Its not the most unrealustic thing in Nikke. Just saying. They could have added a bit more to them, though. I still like the design, but a bit more would have been nice.
Small clarification regarding the 3 manufacturers, the place Cinderella and team are at is called "Elysion's third research center" in Red Ash, and Mustang is mentioned to be Tetra's CEO before the war. So at least those two companies were around at this time. But it's possible that Nikke production was more unified at that time.
For the sequence ending at 3:39:11, I'm pretty sure Oswald only brought human soldiers and Little Mermaid's ability froze everyone, including the other Nikkes. The reason Abe wasn't affected was due to her mask. She used it to block out Little Mermaid's command.
@@vidianott Great VODs BTW. I've enjoyed seeing your reactions and takes on Nikke. I like it when people verbalize their theories and then have their expectations met or subverted in light of new information. Just a shame chat can't shut up with the spoilers sometimes :P
I love Siren so much! Her "Reactivating~" tickles my ears so nicely! And... speaking of Siren. After watching Old Tales many times, I think Oswald wanted to let them escape even here. One because of Suppression Bullets and two they know of Sirens existence, yet brought no countermeasures against her voice. So it feels to me he was losing on purpose.
Uhm...I don't want to sound harsh, but people in the chat of a reactor should keep their lips sealed during climatic moments. Everyone spamming "oh, the next part is gonna be so graphic, be careful" was very much spoilers. Keep it to yourself, it just makes reactions worse. Vidia literally said in other streams that she struggles a bit with graphic gore in live action, not horror in general or in anime, nor books, etc., therefore it was unnecessary and uncalled for. Also "Red Hood got the unevolved version"? Why? Don't spoil stuff, people.
The humanity first obsessed lurker here, definitely pleased with the praises for Oswald (the GOAT). Without delving into spoilers, people have had a lot more time to hear Cinderella's voice than just the 2nd Anniversary stream. I personally don't hate it, but I'm someone who's partial to the japanese dub quite a lot, same for Cinderella. People may not like the child-like, higher pitched voice they gave her in Japanese, but hearing her lines through the event makes me certain the choice was more than just for the sake of having the famous voice actress. It's highlighting the very child-like innocent personality of Cinderella, which to me makes the situation with the corruption even more messed up. On a related topic, this event makes me even more convinced of the Central Government's/Ark's leadership's decision to not take the Goddess Squad in. The danger of mind switches for one (as noted in Overzone, that Snow White's mind switch was beneficial is an extremely rare instance), the fact that some Nikkes can hold the onto the corruption without succumbing for long periods of time (as shown by Red Hood in Red Ash and repeated now in Old tales with other instances of nikkes resisting for some time being referenced), and now one of their own researchers acting so sus and basically dooming 2nd gen to be branded as traitors who could likely be corrupted right from the moment they were built. From the Ark's perspective, what guarantees Dorothy and the rest of the surviving Goddess Squad were not ticking bombs that could go off after being let into the Ark?
I tend to lean JP voice acting 95% of the time, with anime and games. From what I've experienced so far, I don't think EN has been so bad that people had to slam on the voice actress the way I heard about them doing on Twitter which is why it was pointed out here (we went on a little discussion about it in the livestream prior). 😥 I also have extremely sus vibes about the Central Government as a larger entity for sure. In this case, some of their concerns were definitely warranted since towards the end literally every other person came across as sus (like huh - what do you mean Hansel & Gretel are unknown/unauthorized Nikkes?) So it definitely gets your brain noodling on the intent behind everyones actions for sure.
Liliweiss has an interesting gap. She sounds like a British intelligence officer the kind you might hear in a Bond movie. "We have another assignment for you Mr. Bond." But in JP she's voiced by my personal favorite sieyuu Yukari Tamura, who makes her sound very childish and wise at the same time, almost paradoxically. Like childish in tone but wise in intonation and content. She's also been known to drop very deep for villain roles so it makes me wonder...
Love when retards jump on Red Shoes but you clowns suck up to the guy that fucked over the Goddesses "B-but he was following Orders!" Was he? He didnt try to make a apology. Its the same shit all over again in Star Rail and Genshin. a Woman does anything remotely "not good" shes a evil bich but if a guy does something ya'll give them every benefit of the doubt. Its really sad how deep seeded the incel behavior goes.
Ngl Cinderella's situation reminds me of when Sirin possessed Kiana and became the Herrscher of the Void. The whole inner mental manipulation and deception bit included.
@roxas105ful Well, to put it simply....time. Those red eyes stuck to her after 100 years due to corruption...even with Vapaus. Also applies to post-HotV Kiana having a golden eye.
I don't get it at all why most streamers play this on EN, they're definitely missing out on experiencing this epicness firsthand on quality voice acting as well
NGL, didn't even think about Cindi after RE:DASH even though Red Hood proved that _corruption can be cured._ I don't know why it didn't occur to me that the same could happen for her. I also love her JP "I'm a big girl now!" dorky voice lines pre-corruption like the "excessive haste is unsightly, let us take our time" or when she's watching Goddess on TV and marvelling that now she's a magical girl princess too she can go and play with the other big girls.
A thought I had while watching is since they are keeping to the same beats as the fairy tales would red shoes and cinderella interaction be like the poisoned apple story? Since cinderella became basically catatonic or at least a passenger in her own body since being corrupted?
This is definitely an interesting theory! Especially since Nikke Cinderella’s story seems to be taking elements from both fairy tale Cinderella & Snow White where the poison apple appeared
I post stream updates in my discord & the Twitch schedule view! I'll also try to post them to TH-cam. If you're asking about the next TH-cam VOD chapter upload, I will be trying my hardest to catch up on the backlog & get them posted throughout the week!
One thing I noticed about the english voice acting is that it doesn't get properly adjusted to the dialogue. It's as if they are all recorded seperately and then joined together. It's not a massive problem but its noticeable ever since the first prologue. On that note, I have a problem with Cinderella's english voice casting this time. The VA did a great job but I don't think her voice fits the character. Especially if compared to her japanese and korean voice. Cinderella sounds too mature in english and that took away from her innocent character, unlike in Frieren Beyond the Journey' End for example, while they changed the voice direction to be more mature in english, they have a great reasoning for it, being that Frieren is old and wise so it works really well thematically. Tldr: I think the voice acting director failed to pick the right VA for Cinderella
@@vidianott I'm glad you do. I'm usually biased because I heard the JP voice first then the english but this time I actually heard the english voice first, feel how they overall didn't click with me and change to JP. But if you like it, that's all that matters. Beauty is in the eyes of beholder after all, or the ears in this case I supposed
And I'm sorry if my english sounds weird, it's not my first language so I'm having trouble writing proper sentences. But yeah, keep up the good work, I really enjoy your Nikke content
Nah I am going to wait or watch Red ash and Overzone on twitch because it feels off watching out of order lol No actually I will skip them and somehow put peaces together by my self because even secret garden is out of order,ok time to brain edit for me😅
lol if it helps, I'm organizing the playlist so that they are in order (Vidia Plays Nikke!). You may have to wait a bit for me to finish uploading them all though
Aaaand I have to reaffirm the superiority of the JP dub. EN dub has some excellent actors, but some of the casting choices are questionable. Also, no strikes on JP side, as a plus. Snow White sounded a bit too old with the OG VA, and here it's even worse. JP is perfect. Lilith's is a good VA, but the JP one gives her more of a cheerful personality, which makes her sound less distanced and more likeable, IMHO. Abe's VA is fine, but Cinderella sounds also way too old in EN. She's supposed to be fairly young, adding a feeling of naivetè and being idealistic and unjaded to her. The JP VA has fantastic range and goes from a more somber, lower voice to an higher one with current Cindy, that goes fairly monotone with Anachiro. She makes the character feel more real, she really sounds like if she's this innocent, obsessed fangirl that idolizes the Goddess squad and rants about beauty. Same goes for Hansel and Gretel. They sound obnoxious in the EN dub, while they simply sound childish and a bit kuudere in the JP one. It's like the english voice casting is against using more juvenile sounding, higher pitched voices on some characters. There's a bunch of characters in the english dub that have a lower tone, giving less variety to the cast. The emotional range also seems to be a bit more limited in some of their performances. Edit: Yeah, no "come to Jesus feel bad moment" here. Quite the contrary. The performances are good, I never questioned that. It's the casting that isn't as fitting. Compared to the JP dub, that is. As I said before a bunch of times, it's not like the EN dub isn't good. It's just that the JP one is INSANELY good. It's superior on its own merits. Mustang is voiced by Dio's VA, from Jojo. Rapi is voiced by 2B's VA. They are extremely good. EXTREMELY. They are very much award worthy in their performance. And there's a character, which I won't name here because it's spoilers by now for the parts Vidia played, that has one of my favourite voice acting PERIOD, in any media, in any language. P.S. As in indirect reply to the guy in chat speaking ill of people who prefer the JP dub saying they should learn it, I completely disagree. You don't need to understand a language to appreciate the delivery and intonation. Expressing emotion isn't in the spelling of words, therefore his is a strawman's argument. In fact, I'm of complete opposite opinion. I'd encourage people to start watching subbed things in languages they don't understand. It's how I got better at understanding english, which isn't my mother language.
Im actually a little shocked that you're not a fan of the design for Hansel and Gretel. For me, Red Shoes is one of their more terrible designs. Looks like dressless 2b from wish with red boots.
LOL, I can see that. I’m fine with Red Shoes because the focus being on her legs/feet is very lore accurate to her og fairy tale haha. It’s not that I *don’t* like Hansel & Gretel - in fact they have one of my favorite weapons in this new set (Witch’s Cauldron 🤍). I like a lot of their design but I’m still trying to make sense of other aspects if that makes sense - I look at the Fairy Tale models with the lens of their tales in mind.
@vidianott i think you explained yourself better here. I can see where you're coming from. I guess the whole grimms/fairy tale theme wasn't that important to me when it came to characters' designs or personality, etc. Just something fun to throw into the world of nikke that wasn't meant to be that deep. That's just me. Sorry if I came across as an ass. There's been a lot of negativity in the nikke community that's gotten to me and took some of it out on you.
Nah Red Shoes is peak design, she being inspired by 2B possibly makes it cool. Her design is technically gorgeous, not to mention 2B was also inpired by some “dressless” goth lolita.
Just saying but Idk why people say Gretel and Hanselʼs designs have a “problem,” they were made to be over the top, none of these designs realistically makes 100% sense to be honest, they are made to look crazy, cool and sexy. Azur Lane also has designs like these of Hansel and Gretel, it is just an unconventional cute maid suit style plus a common dress cute style, both inspired by HyungTae Kimʼs style. Even when a character design is more clothed it can end up being as bad as if it were not clothed, like one of the characters from Kingdom Hearts for example, that ended up being overdesigned. So, I donʼt think people would come after you for simply not liking the design, but rather an unfair sentiment about your argument for not liking them, you say it is “unbalanced”, but it is not clear what exactly this refers to since the designs are very simple, it also doesnʼt help you said the “problem” was not them having big boobies, but right after you said that when someone replied in the stream saying they would look better with flat boobies you agreed with the person, like... Eh... It is something that just sounded hypocritical, and people really love this game, so it is understandable that they would argue in its defense, as since the beginning NIKKE was attacked by people pretending to “criticize” the designs of the NIKKEʼS, and this subject continues to this day unfortunately, which leaves a bad taste and makes the fans very defensive, rightfully so.
Ah, the JP voice for Cinderella is really really good tho. Aoi Yuuki (Lumine - Genshin, Tanya - Saga of Tanya the Evil, Kumoko - So I'm a Spider so what, Madoka - Puella Magi Madoka) is doing such a good job when voicing Cinderella when everything went red and creepy in the event when she was corrupted. I really like the JP cast because they include a lot of VAs that I love, to name a few: Tomokazu Sugita (Gintoki - Gintama), as Commander Andersen and the Goddess Squad's Commander, Takehito Koyasu (Dio from JoJo Bizzare Adventures, the Uncle - Uncle from Another World, Roswaal - Re:Zero) as Mustang, CEO of Tetra, Kana Hanazawa (Kobato Hanato - Kobato, the "Angel" - Angel Beat, Rinoa Heartily - Dissidia Final Fantasy) as Marian Tamura Yukari (Qiqi, Nahida - Genshin) as Liliweis, Aki Toyosaki (Yui Hirasawa - K-ON, Yunyun - Konosuba, Navia - Genshin) as Crown, Suzuko Mimori (Unzen - Azur Lane, Kokomi - Genshin) as Rapunzel , and M.A.O (Gokai Yellow - Pirate Sentai Gokaiger, Fubuki - Azur Lane) as Snow White. I especially like how flamboyant Koyasu is with his version of Mustang. I am never not amused when I heard him announcing anything in the arena. You'll be missing out for not hearing him when JP Mustang is out and about doing his thing. With the knowledge that the game has a cast like this, it is painfully DIFFICULT to choose other dubs over the JP dubs.
Oh, I’m absolutely aware of how utterly stacked the JP cast is - everyday I’m tempted to switch over to it LOL. I’ve just found that playing in EN helps me keep track of multiple things (like chat) while streaming & listening. 😖 It’s definitely a tug of war of balancing a good playing experience while also providing a fun streaming experience to those who are there live - maybe when I get more used to it all, I’ll be able to switch to JP more often no problem 🤞For now, I just rewatch scenes in JP occasionally haha
I think imo it's weird to be a new player with Nikke and you should know what you are getting into when you see characters on how they are designed, The game is a booty shooter with fanservice but has good story, I think the twins look ok but i kinda think they should of been older looking with the same designs plus i like the British accents on them, But Little Mermaid is my favourite from the new Nikke's here, Cindy number one still lol
35:12 to each their own i guess, everybody can have their own opinion, but youll have to expect more designs like these in the future, a huge amount of the players is here for exactly these type of desings. You can obviously critisize them or rant about them, but id try and get used to the fact that these types of designs arent going anywhere. And thank god for that cause these two are my favorits
Pfft...as you said, to each their own. I spent an entire video gushing about the various types of designs in this game & how much I love them. I even like Hansel & Gretel. But they feel "unbalanced" to me. *shrug*
@@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 I have VODs for all streams! They will eventually get up to YT (I tend to upload everything aside from Anni things in the order that I did them). If you want to see them earlier, I suggest checking out my Twitch! The full VODs should still be up - though unedited and possibly with muted parts that won't be (fully) in the YT versions!
Don’t know anything about it since I’ve been playing in Korean since the beginning. I’m not Korean but I wanted to listen to the game in the company’s language. I’m sure jp is immaculate though looking at their history of voice acting.
@@jimmylu7169Honestly all of them sound good, ofc Korean is the best followed side by side with the Japanese but English is actually good in this game and it has a respectable level of raw emotion.
Ahhh, happy anniversary everyone!!! To avoid potential confusion...
- I am up to Chapter 15 (have not started yet) at the time of upload & have done both Red Ash & Overzone going into this event! I have NOT done anything past that!!! (I still don't know why people don't like Crow haha)
- LOL if you peep my units & think "wtf" - you shall see in future uploads how some were acquired. My luck is an ongoing joke with me & chat now
- Also...please don't come after me for my Hansel & Gretel takes LOL. I want to clarify that I DO like them a LOT. There's just something about their designs that feels...unbalanced..? Idk.
- I am behind on uploading Nikke playthroughs but this one felt time sensitive to get priority on uploading ... because I had been saving multiple types of pulls to crack open as soon as the clock struck midnight for my birthday! (It felt fitting hehe)
Anyway, I hope you're all getting lucky on your pulls & enjoying the anni!! 🤍🤍
I bet you to rewatch in JP
@vidianott Unbalanced... that's certainly a word. So are "top heavy" and "scoliosis in their futures if they weren't Nikke"
@@steweygrrr i will be honest, designs of old tales suck except cindy
@@staruchx nah Siren is goated
@@staruchxNone of them suck, also you guys are not presenting any support for a real critical argument of why they suck. If certain people actually played the game, or payed more attention and read the story carefully they would realise these designs are extremely well made, with a lot of effort, the female dev Kim Jin-Ok in NIKKEʼs staff spoke about it in the NIKKE 2nd Anniversary stream; the proccess behind the designs and its facial expressions, not to mention they are thematically fitting, extremely well designed, especially Red Shoes.
I think some people donʼt realise how good Old Tales thematic is and its inspired original adaptation of “The Red Shoes” by Hans Christian Andersen, plus all the other tales and its visual presentation, it was a beautiful form of art to re-tell these tales even if you donʼt necessarily know where it comes from but with an understandable meaning that yet feels genuine and again, original in NIKKE.
I can easily form an specific argument about why every single design makes sense in the story; why they are well thought out character designs.
Here's the bit that in English translation kinda sounds weird to JP and KR players. In JP and KR versions (especially in the original KR version), the Goddess Squad and Cinderella's squad were "Fairy Tale models". But in EN version, they translated it into "Grimm's Model".
This choice of translation has a huge problem - like Dorothy is from Wizards of Oz so she's not part of the Grimm Brothers' fairy tale compilations. On top of that, there's also Nikkes whose names stem from Hans Christian Anderson's works - like The Little Mermaid and The Red Shoes, which aren't from the Grimms' tales. The original term "Fairy Tale models" make sense because it doesn't limit the devs in incorporating which Fairy Tales as these Pilgrims' motifs. Now, there's bound to be smartass EN players who'd make fun at Shift-Up for including names that aren't from the Grimms' tales - despite them never intended it to be just Grimms' Tales to begin with.
So, I do hope the EN translation team don't go overboard with their creative liberties because missing contexts and lore inaccuracies (that the devs didn't even do) could happen due to "English localization". Example of a damage that could stem from such "localization"? Many EN Genshin players, to this day, still don't know what a "Genshin" is.
That's one of the first things I noticed when playing! That the Goddess Squad has Wizard of Oz, Anderson, & Grimms stories (which I love). So I immediately got confused.
If anything, I've seen more people assume that they are all Grimms based fairy tales, which creates a weird inaccuracy in itself, doesn't it?
@@vidianott Yeap. Especially confusing for the lore enthusiasts. The game's gameplay is simple (with some planning for the nuanced to team synergy and etc) so it's natural for players to be invested in the story and lore after they had their pew pew fun.
Allogene = Genshin
I don't really think it's all that deep. Think it's just a cool theme to have in the game. Grimms sounds cooler so give that moniker to the older cooler nikkes and Rapi can stay being the only fairy tale model
As a lore enthusiast, I completely agree. I seriously hated how localizations ruined the crucial moments.
Like what you mentioned, when players was about to learn about what a "Genshin" is and due to localizations the EN players totally missed it. it's such a shame. They could have actually fixed it by just going with "Allogenes are people who hold Visions, with the potential of ascending to be an Archon. These people have other names too. For one, in Inazuma, they call them - the Genshins." and then pan to the game title. But no. They had to ruin it.
Nikke is yet another game title that suffers this. Sigh.
Yeah corruption is THAT seamless and insidious that not even the victim knows whats happening at first.
As for Hansel and Gretel ngl I like how bold SU is with their designs.
Also, I do appreciate how A-tier sassy brats they are. But at least they're no Syuen.
(Headpats them)
Wholeheartedly agree. Their design is peak.
It funny because Chatterbox explains it about how the corruption work and this is pov on nikke that got corruption.
Great VOD. 👍🏻 Even though I wanted to strangle chat for most of it. 😬 lol
Yes... Some weird words by the chat also, I mean for the most part they are nice but sometimes they say some very stupid things.
Poor Cindy. To be disgraced like this.
She derserves all the hugs and mirrors after all this
37:14 Well.. they also have technology that creates super cyborg anime girls. They're clothes can probably do that. Its not the most unrealustic thing in Nikke. Just saying.
They could have added a bit more to them, though. I still like the design, but a bit more would have been nice.
Yeah itʼs understandable to ask for more detailed design, but it is still good their designs. Better than an overdesigned one thatʼs for sure.
Small clarification regarding the 3 manufacturers, the place Cinderella and team are at is called "Elysion's third research center" in Red Ash, and Mustang is mentioned to be Tetra's CEO before the war. So at least those two companies were around at this time. But it's possible that Nikke production was more unified at that time.
For the sequence ending at 3:39:11, I'm pretty sure Oswald only brought human soldiers and Little Mermaid's ability froze everyone, including the other Nikkes. The reason Abe wasn't affected was due to her mask. She used it to block out Little Mermaid's command.
Ooohh, that would make a lot of sense!! (& nice to know my memory was correct in that it affects *everyone*)
@@vidianott Great VODs BTW. I've enjoyed seeing your reactions and takes on Nikke. I like it when people verbalize their theories and then have their expectations met or subverted in light of new information. Just a shame chat can't shut up with the spoilers sometimes :P
I love Siren so much! Her "Reactivating~" tickles my ears so nicely!
And... speaking of Siren. After watching Old Tales many times, I think Oswald wanted to let them escape even here. One because of Suppression Bullets and two they know of Sirens existence, yet brought no countermeasures against her voice.
So it feels to me he was losing on purpose.
The Among Us waifu edition is fun 😂
Cinderella is banking on the Goddess Squad stopping and destroying her. Death by Goddess Squad.
Btw did you check the other Nikke PVs?
Might be a good reaction.
passed out watching live, glad to see the vod so i can finish stream.
also, for the record, i warned you not to keep pulling lol
play stupid games win stupid prizes I guess 🥹
When i cleared 1-5 my first thought was "man cant wait for the reaction vods" crazy cool to see bits from red ash like this. And ayy happy birthday 🎉
Thank youuuu 🥰
First time I see someone with half a cloth complaining about others not covering enough. 🤣
37:24 tell me who covers the most
47:38 - But it has a Barbie-version! xD It's called "The pink shoes" xDD
LOL I think that movie is suuuper loosely based on Red Shoes & Snow Queen (Frozen also is inspired by this one) if I remember correctly 🤣
What beautiful women and story. I hope nothing bad happens to those beautiful women before a big event
Uhm...I don't want to sound harsh, but people in the chat of a reactor should keep their lips sealed during climatic moments.
Everyone spamming "oh, the next part is gonna be so graphic, be careful" was very much spoilers. Keep it to yourself, it just makes reactions worse. Vidia literally said in other streams that she struggles a bit with graphic gore in live action, not horror in general or in anime, nor books, etc., therefore it was unnecessary and uncalled for.
Also "Red Hood got the unevolved version"? Why? Don't spoil stuff, people.
3:20:30 Cinderella was corrupted by the Queen not some random Rapture. Pinne too, thats why they "resisted" it ain't nothing to do with Will Power.
The humanity first obsessed lurker here, definitely pleased with the praises for Oswald (the GOAT).
Without delving into spoilers, people have had a lot more time to hear Cinderella's voice than just the 2nd Anniversary stream. I personally don't hate it, but I'm someone who's partial to the japanese dub quite a lot, same for Cinderella. People may not like the child-like, higher pitched voice they gave her in Japanese, but hearing her lines through the event makes me certain the choice was more than just for the sake of having the famous voice actress. It's highlighting the very child-like innocent personality of Cinderella, which to me makes the situation with the corruption even more messed up.
On a related topic, this event makes me even more convinced of the Central Government's/Ark's leadership's decision to not take the Goddess Squad in. The danger of mind switches for one (as noted in Overzone, that Snow White's mind switch was beneficial is an extremely rare instance), the fact that some Nikkes can hold the onto the corruption without succumbing for long periods of time (as shown by Red Hood in Red Ash and repeated now in Old tales with other instances of nikkes resisting for some time being referenced), and now one of their own researchers acting so sus and basically dooming 2nd gen to be branded as traitors who could likely be corrupted right from the moment they were built. From the Ark's perspective, what guarantees Dorothy and the rest of the surviving Goddess Squad were not ticking bombs that could go off after being let into the Ark?
I tend to lean JP voice acting 95% of the time, with anime and games. From what I've experienced so far, I don't think EN has been so bad that people had to slam on the voice actress the way I heard about them doing on Twitter which is why it was pointed out here (we went on a little discussion about it in the livestream prior). 😥
I also have extremely sus vibes about the Central Government as a larger entity for sure. In this case, some of their concerns were definitely warranted since towards the end literally every other person came across as sus (like huh - what do you mean Hansel & Gretel are unknown/unauthorized Nikkes?) So it definitely gets your brain noodling on the intent behind everyones actions for sure.
Liliweiss has an interesting gap. She sounds like a British intelligence officer the kind you might hear in a Bond movie. "We have another assignment for you Mr. Bond." But in JP she's voiced by my personal favorite sieyuu Yukari Tamura, who makes her sound very childish and wise at the same time, almost paradoxically. Like childish in tone but wise in intonation and content. She's also been known to drop very deep for villain roles so it makes me wonder...
Love when retards jump on Red Shoes but you clowns suck up to the guy that fucked over the Goddesses "B-but he was following Orders!" Was he? He didnt try to make a apology.
Its the same shit all over again in Star Rail and Genshin. a Woman does anything remotely "not good" shes a evil bich but if a guy does something ya'll give them every benefit of the doubt.
Its really sad how deep seeded the incel behavior goes.
Ngl Cinderella's situation reminds me of when Sirin possessed Kiana and became the Herrscher of the Void. The whole inner mental manipulation and deception bit included.
That’s he best way to explain it, but how she get corrupted and how can she still have red eyes of the corruption but is our ally?
@roxas105ful Well, to put it simply....time. Those red eyes stuck to her after 100 years due to corruption...even with Vapaus.
Also applies to post-HotV Kiana having a golden eye.
By the time you reach chapter 24, you'll begin to learn why crow has the bad rep that she has
Not gonna lie, jp voice after the corruption was creepy and bone chilling as previous cute dork dialogue turn yandere and unhinged.
this story so creepy and dark. JP VA, mini map and backsound theme, everything so creepy and fit as Halloween event. Shift up is cooking 🔥
I don't get it at all why most streamers play this on EN, they're definitely missing out on experiencing this epicness firsthand on quality voice acting as well
Then third phase, depression.
Fourth phase, silence.
Damn
NGL, didn't even think about Cindi after RE:DASH even though Red Hood proved that _corruption can be cured._ I don't know why it didn't occur to me that the same could happen for her.
I also love her JP "I'm a big girl now!" dorky voice lines pre-corruption like the "excessive haste is unsightly, let us take our time" or when she's watching Goddess on TV and marvelling that now she's a magical girl princess too she can go and play with the other big girls.
I think not cured but expired.
A thought I had while watching is since they are keeping to the same beats as the fairy tales would red shoes and cinderella interaction be like the poisoned apple story? Since cinderella became basically catatonic or at least a passenger in her own body since being corrupted?
This is definitely an interesting theory! Especially since Nikke Cinderella’s story seems to be taking elements from both fairy tale Cinderella & Snow White where the poison apple appeared
i understand the tissue my gf yells at me for keeping napkins on my desk and im like i cry leave me alone
Sadly english dub is not the best right now thanks to the VA strike, 1 person playing 4 characters isn't exactly efficient
I agree
When next chapter stream?
I post stream updates in my discord & the Twitch schedule view! I'll also try to post them to TH-cam. If you're asking about the next TH-cam VOD chapter upload, I will be trying my hardest to catch up on the backlog & get them posted throughout the week!
Nikke designs either have highest of highs or lowest of lows. Inconsistencies is common in Korean games.
Thatʼs not true, all designs can be inconsistent, simple, detailed, reserved or not. This doesnʼt apply to only Korean games or MMORPG games.
One thing I noticed about the english voice acting is that it doesn't get properly adjusted to the dialogue. It's as if they are all recorded seperately and then joined together. It's not a massive problem but its noticeable ever since the first prologue.
On that note, I have a problem with Cinderella's english voice casting this time. The VA did a great job but I don't think her voice fits the character. Especially if compared to her japanese and korean voice. Cinderella sounds too mature in english and that took away from her innocent character, unlike in Frieren Beyond the Journey' End for example, while they changed the voice direction to be more mature in english, they have a great reasoning for it, being that Frieren is old and wise so it works really well thematically.
Tldr: I think the voice acting director failed to pick the right VA for Cinderella
I love Cinderella's EN VA lol. Sure it could've gone a different route but I think it still totally works for her & she did great
@@vidianott I'm glad you do. I'm usually biased because I heard the JP voice first then the english but this time I actually heard the english voice first, feel how they overall didn't click with me and change to JP. But if you like it, that's all that matters. Beauty is in the eyes of beholder after all, or the ears in this case I supposed
And I'm sorry if my english sounds weird, it's not my first language so I'm having trouble writing proper sentences. But yeah, keep up the good work, I really enjoy your Nikke content
Nah I am going to wait or watch Red ash and Overzone on twitch because it feels off watching out of order lol
No actually I will skip them and somehow put peaces together by my self because even secret garden is out of order,ok time to brain edit for me😅
lol if it helps, I'm organizing the playlist so that they are in order (Vidia Plays Nikke!).
You may have to wait a bit for me to finish uploading them all though
Aaaand I have to reaffirm the superiority of the JP dub.
EN dub has some excellent actors, but some of the casting choices are questionable. Also, no strikes on JP side, as a plus.
Snow White sounded a bit too old with the OG VA, and here it's even worse. JP is perfect. Lilith's is a good VA, but the JP one gives her more of a cheerful personality, which makes her sound less distanced and more likeable, IMHO.
Abe's VA is fine, but Cinderella sounds also way too old in EN. She's supposed to be fairly young, adding a feeling of naivetè and being idealistic and unjaded to her. The JP VA has fantastic range and goes from a more somber, lower voice to an higher one with current Cindy, that goes fairly monotone with Anachiro. She makes the character feel more real, she really sounds like if she's this innocent, obsessed fangirl that idolizes the Goddess squad and rants about beauty.
Same goes for Hansel and Gretel. They sound obnoxious in the EN dub, while they simply sound childish and a bit kuudere in the JP one.
It's like the english voice casting is against using more juvenile sounding, higher pitched voices on some characters. There's a bunch of characters in the english dub that have a lower tone, giving less variety to the cast. The emotional range also seems to be a bit more limited in some of their performances.
Edit: Yeah, no "come to Jesus feel bad moment" here. Quite the contrary. The performances are good, I never questioned that. It's the casting that isn't as fitting. Compared to the JP dub, that is.
As I said before a bunch of times, it's not like the EN dub isn't good. It's just that the JP one is INSANELY good. It's superior on its own merits. Mustang is voiced by Dio's VA, from Jojo. Rapi is voiced by 2B's VA. They are extremely good. EXTREMELY. They are very much award worthy in their performance. And there's a character, which I won't name here because it's spoilers by now for the parts Vidia played, that has one of my favourite voice acting PERIOD, in any media, in any language.
P.S. As in indirect reply to the guy in chat speaking ill of people who prefer the JP dub saying they should learn it, I completely disagree.
You don't need to understand a language to appreciate the delivery and intonation. Expressing emotion isn't in the spelling of words, therefore his is a strawman's argument.
In fact, I'm of complete opposite opinion. I'd encourage people to start watching subbed things in languages they don't understand. It's how I got better at understanding english, which isn't my mother language.
Im actually a little shocked that you're not a fan of the design for Hansel and Gretel. For me, Red Shoes is one of their more terrible designs. Looks like dressless 2b from wish with red boots.
LOL, I can see that. I’m fine with Red Shoes because the focus being on her legs/feet is very lore accurate to her og fairy tale haha. It’s not that I *don’t* like Hansel & Gretel - in fact they have one of my favorite weapons in this new set (Witch’s Cauldron 🤍).
I like a lot of their design but I’m still trying to make sense of other aspects if that makes sense - I look at the Fairy Tale models with the lens of their tales in mind.
@vidianott i think you explained yourself better here. I can see where you're coming from. I guess the whole grimms/fairy tale theme wasn't that important to me when it came to characters' designs or personality, etc. Just something fun to throw into the world of nikke that wasn't meant to be that deep. That's just me. Sorry if I came across as an ass. There's been a lot of negativity in the nikke community that's gotten to me and took some of it out on you.
Nah Red Shoes is peak design, she being inspired by 2B possibly makes it cool. Her design is technically gorgeous, not to mention 2B was also inpired by some “dressless” goth lolita.
Just saying but Idk why people say Gretel and Hanselʼs designs have a “problem,” they were made to be over the top, none of these designs realistically makes 100% sense to be honest, they are made to look crazy, cool and sexy. Azur Lane also has designs like these of Hansel and Gretel, it is just an unconventional cute maid suit style plus a common dress cute style, both inspired by HyungTae Kimʼs style. Even when a character design is more clothed it can end up being as bad as if it were not clothed, like one of the characters from Kingdom Hearts for example, that ended up being overdesigned. So, I donʼt think people would come after you for simply not liking the design, but rather an unfair sentiment about your argument for not liking them, you say it is “unbalanced”, but it is not clear what exactly this refers to since the designs are very simple, it also doesnʼt help you said the “problem” was not them having big boobies, but right after you said that when someone replied in the stream saying they would look better with flat boobies you agreed with the person, like... Eh... It is something that just sounded hypocritical, and people really love this game, so it is understandable that they would argue in its defense, as since the beginning NIKKE was attacked by people pretending to “criticize” the designs of the NIKKEʼS, and this subject continues to this day unfortunately, which leaves a bad taste and makes the fans very defensive, rightfully so.
Ah, the JP voice for Cinderella is really really good tho. Aoi Yuuki (Lumine - Genshin, Tanya - Saga of Tanya the Evil, Kumoko - So I'm a Spider so what, Madoka - Puella Magi Madoka) is doing such a good job when voicing Cinderella when everything went red and creepy in the event when she was corrupted.
I really like the JP cast because they include a lot of VAs that I love, to name a few:
Tomokazu Sugita (Gintoki - Gintama), as Commander Andersen and the Goddess Squad's Commander,
Takehito Koyasu (Dio from JoJo Bizzare Adventures, the Uncle - Uncle from Another World, Roswaal - Re:Zero) as Mustang, CEO of Tetra,
Kana Hanazawa (Kobato Hanato - Kobato, the "Angel" - Angel Beat, Rinoa Heartily - Dissidia Final Fantasy) as Marian
Tamura Yukari (Qiqi, Nahida - Genshin) as Liliweis,
Aki Toyosaki (Yui Hirasawa - K-ON, Yunyun - Konosuba, Navia - Genshin) as Crown,
Suzuko Mimori (Unzen - Azur Lane, Kokomi - Genshin) as Rapunzel ,
and M.A.O (Gokai Yellow - Pirate Sentai Gokaiger, Fubuki - Azur Lane) as Snow White.
I especially like how flamboyant Koyasu is with his version of Mustang. I am never not amused when I heard him announcing anything in the arena. You'll be missing out for not hearing him when JP Mustang is out and about doing his thing.
With the knowledge that the game has a cast like this, it is painfully DIFFICULT to choose other dubs over the JP dubs.
Oh, I’m absolutely aware of how utterly stacked the JP cast is - everyday I’m tempted to switch over to it LOL. I’ve just found that playing in EN helps me keep track of multiple things (like chat) while streaming & listening. 😖
It’s definitely a tug of war of balancing a good playing experience while also providing a fun streaming experience to those who are there live - maybe when I get more used to it all, I’ll be able to switch to JP more often no problem 🤞For now, I just rewatch scenes in JP occasionally haha
It's also the fact that M.A.O voices both Snow White and Smol White but you can hear the age difference for both characters.
Complaining about Hansel and Gretels outfits when your own avatar has ridiculous shit lol
yup. 😌also there's a difference between a critique and a complaint.
Relax dude, she only gave her own personal opinion about the design of a 2d fictional character...
Sorry for my bad English.
@@vidianott I was about to say the same thing 😂
I think imo it's weird to be a new player with Nikke and you should know what you are getting into when you see characters on how they are designed, The game is a booty shooter with fanservice but has good story, I think the twins look ok but i kinda think they should of been older looking with the same designs plus i like the British accents on them, But Little Mermaid is my favourite from the new Nikke's here, Cindy number one still lol
35:12 to each their own i guess, everybody can have their own opinion, but youll have to expect more designs like these in the future, a huge amount of the players is here for exactly these type of desings. You can obviously critisize them or rant about them, but id try and get used to the fact that these types of designs arent going anywhere. And thank god for that cause these two are my favorits
Pfft...as you said, to each their own. I spent an entire video gushing about the various types of designs in this game & how much I love them. I even like Hansel & Gretel. But they feel "unbalanced" to me. *shrug*
Btw is there an Overzone vod you did?
If so I'd like to see it.
I mean you did clarify you did it so....
Lol. That is incel words. You felt attacked when she was talking about art. Stfu.
@@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 I have VODs for all streams! They will eventually get up to YT (I tend to upload everything aside from Anni things in the order that I did them). If you want to see them earlier, I suggest checking out my Twitch! The full VODs should still be up - though unedited and possibly with muted parts that won't be (fully) in the YT versions!
Man no matter how many times I hear the English voices they always sound wrong and, not to bash anyone, worse than the JP voices
Don’t know anything about it since I’ve been playing in Korean since the beginning. I’m not Korean but I wanted to listen to the game in the company’s language. I’m sure jp is immaculate though looking at their history of voice acting.
@@jimmylu7169Honestly all of them sound good, ofc Korean is the best followed side by side with the Japanese but English is actually good in this game and it has a respectable level of raw emotion.
When I hear the JP voices they sound wrong compared to the Korean ones. You can dislike something without making a whole deal out of it.