A TALE OF TRAGEDY... | OLD TALES Part 1 | Nikke 2nd Anniversary Event REACTION

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  • @vidianott
    @vidianott  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Ahhh, happy anniversary everyone!!! To avoid potential confusion...
    - I am up to Chapter 15 (have not started yet) at the time of upload & have done both Red Ash & Overzone going into this event! I have NOT done anything past that!!! (I still don't know why people don't like Crow haha)
    - LOL if you peep my units & think "wtf" - you shall see in future uploads how some were acquired. My luck is an ongoing joke with me & chat now
    - Also...please don't come after me for my Hansel & Gretel takes LOL. I want to clarify that I DO like them a LOT. There's just something about their designs that feels...unbalanced..? Idk.
    - I am behind on uploading Nikke playthroughs but this one felt time sensitive to get priority on uploading ... because I had been saving multiple types of pulls to crack open as soon as the clock struck midnight for my birthday! (It felt fitting hehe)
    Anyway, I hope you're all getting lucky on your pulls & enjoying the anni!! 🤍🤍

    • @kyero8724
      @kyero8724 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bet you to rewatch in JP

  • @ishinomorileon
    @ishinomorileon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Here's the bit that in English translation kinda sounds weird to JP and KR players. In JP and KR versions (especially in the original KR version), the Goddess Squad and Cinderella's squad were "Fairy Tale models". But in EN version, they translated it into "Grimm's Model".
    This choice of translation has a huge problem - like Dorothy is from Wizards of Oz so she's not part of the Grimm Brothers' fairy tale compilations. On top of that, there's also Nikkes whose names stem from Hans Christian Anderson's works - like The Little Mermaid and The Red Shoes, which aren't from the Grimms' tales. The original term "Fairy Tale models" make sense because it doesn't limit the devs in incorporating which Fairy Tales as these Pilgrims' motifs. Now, there's bound to be smartass EN players who'd make fun at Shift-Up for including names that aren't from the Grimms' tales - despite them never intended it to be just Grimms' Tales to begin with.
    So, I do hope the EN translation team don't go overboard with their creative liberties because missing contexts and lore inaccuracies (that the devs didn't even do) could happen due to "English localization". Example of a damage that could stem from such "localization"? Many EN Genshin players, to this day, still don't know what a "Genshin" is.

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      That's one of the first things I noticed when playing! That the Goddess Squad has Wizard of Oz, Anderson, & Grimms stories (which I love). So I immediately got confused.
      If anything, I've seen more people assume that they are all Grimms based fairy tales, which creates a weird inaccuracy in itself, doesn't it?

    • @ishinomorileon
      @ishinomorileon 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@vidianott Yeap. Especially confusing for the lore enthusiasts. The game's gameplay is simple (with some planning for the nuanced to team synergy and etc) so it's natural for players to be invested in the story and lore after they had their pew pew fun.

    • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
      @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Allogene = Genshin

    • @the.a.o.b
      @the.a.o.b 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don't really think it's all that deep. Think it's just a cool theme to have in the game. Grimms sounds cooler so give that moniker to the older cooler nikkes and Rapi can stay being the only fairy tale model

    • @leonetroy6508
      @leonetroy6508 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      As a lore enthusiast, I completely agree. I seriously hated how localizations ruined the crucial moments.
      Like what you mentioned, when players was about to learn about what a "Genshin" is and due to localizations the EN players totally missed it. it's such a shame. They could have actually fixed it by just going with "Allogenes are people who hold Visions, with the potential of ascending to be an Archon. These people have other names too. For one, in Inazuma, they call them - the Genshins." and then pan to the game title. But no. They had to ruin it.
      Nikke is yet another game title that suffers this. Sigh.

  • @darksiderneo5806
    @darksiderneo5806 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It funny because Chatterbox explains it about how the corruption work and this is pov on nikke that got corruption.

  • @TheProphetOfThePan
    @TheProphetOfThePan 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Yeah corruption is THAT seamless and insidious that not even the victim knows whats happening at first.

  • @ShadowCalic
    @ShadowCalic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The humanity first obsessed lurker here, definitely pleased with the praises for Oswald (the GOAT).
    Without delving into spoilers, people have had a lot more time to hear Cinderella's voice than just the 2nd Anniversary stream. I personally don't hate it, but I'm someone who's partial to the japanese dub quite a lot, same for Cinderella. People may not like the child-like, higher pitched voice they gave her in Japanese, but hearing her lines through the event makes me certain the choice was more than just for the sake of having the famous voice actress. It's highlighting the very child-like innocent personality of Cinderella, which to me makes the situation with the corruption even more messed up.
    On a related topic, this event makes me even more convinced of the Central Government's/Ark's leadership's decision to not take the Goddess Squad in. The danger of mind switches for one (as noted in Overzone, that Snow White's mind switch was beneficial is an extremely rare instance), the fact that some Nikkes can hold the onto the corruption without succumbing for long periods of time (as shown by Red Hood in Red Ash and repeated now in Old tales with other instances of nikkes resisting for some time being referenced), and now one of their own researchers acting so sus and basically dooming 2nd gen to be branded as traitors who could likely be corrupted right from the moment they were built. From the Ark's perspective, what guarantees Dorothy and the rest of the surviving Goddess Squad were not ticking bombs that could go off after being let into the Ark?

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I tend to lean JP voice acting 95% of the time, with anime and games. From what I've experienced so far, I don't think EN has been so bad that people had to slam on the voice actress the way I heard about them doing on Twitter which is why it was pointed out here (we went on a little discussion about it in the livestream prior). 😥
      I also have extremely sus vibes about the Central Government as a larger entity for sure. In this case, some of their concerns were definitely warranted since towards the end literally every other person came across as sus (like huh - what do you mean Hansel & Gretel are unknown/unauthorized Nikkes?) So it definitely gets your brain noodling on the intent behind everyones actions for sure.

    • @godhand291
      @godhand291 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Liliweiss has an interesting gap. She sounds like a British intelligence officer the kind you might hear in a Bond movie. "We have another assignment for you Mr. Bond." But in JP she's voiced by my personal favorite sieyuu Yukari Tamura, who makes her sound very childish and wise at the same time, almost paradoxically. Like childish in tone but wise in intonation and content. She's also been known to drop very deep for villain roles so it makes me wonder...

    • @kyero8724
      @kyero8724 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love when retards jump on Red Shoes but you clowns suck up to the guy that fucked over the Goddesses "B-but he was following Orders!" Was he? He didnt try to make a apology.
      Its the same shit all over again in Star Rail and Genshin. a Woman does anything remotely "not good" shes a evil bich but if a guy does something ya'll give them every benefit of the doubt.
      Its really sad how deep seeded the incel behavior goes.

  • @ZamZakuZou
    @ZamZakuZou 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Not gonna lie, jp voice after the corruption was creepy and bone chilling as previous cute dork dialogue turn yandere and unhinged.

    • @nekopoi69
      @nekopoi69 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      this story so creepy and dark. JP VA, mini map and backsound theme, everything so creepy and fit as Halloween event. Shift up is cooking 🔥

  • @rudolfmorvai5824
    @rudolfmorvai5824 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Small clarification regarding the 3 manufacturers, the place Cinderella and team are at is called "Elysion's third research center" in Red Ash, and Mustang is mentioned to be Tetra's CEO before the war. So at least those two companies were around at this time. But it's possible that Nikke production was more unified at that time.

  • @leonetroy6508
    @leonetroy6508 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ah, the JP voice for Cinderella is really really good tho. Aoi Yuuki (Lumine - Genshin, Tanya - Saga of Tanya the Evil, Kumoko - So I'm a Spider so what, Madoka - Puella Magi Madoka) is doing such a good job when voicing Cinderella when everything went red and creepy in the event when she was corrupted.
    I really like the JP cast because they include a lot of VAs that I love, to name a few:
    Tomokazu Sugita (Gintoki - Gintama), as Commander Andersen and the Goddess Squad's Commander,
    Takehito Koyasu (Dio from JoJo Bizzare Adventures, the Uncle - Uncle from Another World, Roswaal - Re:Zero) as Mustang, CEO of Tetra,
    Kana Hanazawa (Kobato Hanato - Kobato, the "Angel" - Angel Beat, Rinoa Heartily - Dissidia Final Fantasy) as Marian
    Tamura Yukari (Qiqi, Nahida - Genshin) as Liliweis,
    Aki Toyosaki (Yui Hirasawa - K-ON, Yunyun - Konosuba, Navia - Genshin) as Crown,
    Suzuko Mimori (Unzen - Azur Lane, Kokomi - Genshin) as Rapunzel ,
    and M.A.O (Gokai Yellow - Pirate Sentai Gokaiger, Fubuki - Azur Lane) as Snow White.
    I especially like how flamboyant Koyasu is with his version of Mustang. I am never not amused when I heard him announcing anything in the arena. You'll be missing out for not hearing him when JP Mustang is out and about doing his thing.
    With the knowledge that the game has a cast like this, it is painfully DIFFICULT to choose other dubs over the JP dubs.

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh, I’m absolutely aware of how utterly stacked the JP cast is - everyday I’m tempted to switch over to it LOL. I’ve just found that playing in EN helps me keep track of multiple things (like chat) while streaming & listening. 😖
      It’s definitely a tug of war of balancing a good playing experience while also providing a fun streaming experience to those who are there live - maybe when I get more used to it all, I’ll be able to switch to JP more often no problem 🤞For now, I just rewatch scenes in JP occasionally haha

  • @CG13F
    @CG13F วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    First time I see someone with half a cloth complaining about others not covering enough. 🤣
    37:24 tell me who covers the most

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Poor Cindy. To be disgraced like this.

    • @dragonfable66
      @dragonfable66 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      She derserves all the hugs and mirrors after all this

  • @crispycreammcfly4782
    @crispycreammcfly4782 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    37:14 Well.. they also have technology that creates super cyborg anime girls. They're clothes can probably do that. Its not the most unrealustic thing in Nikke. Just saying.
    They could have added a bit more to them, though. I still like the design, but a bit more would have been nice.

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As for Hansel and Gretel ngl I like how bold SU is with their designs.
    Also, I do appreciate how A-tier sassy brats they are. But at least they're no Syuen.
    (Headpats them)

  • @cmvp8422
    @cmvp8422 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sadly english dub is not the best right now thanks to the VA strike, 1 person playing 4 characters isn't exactly efficient

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree

  • @Kryptick_88
    @Kryptick_88 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cinderella is banking on the Goddess Squad stopping and destroying her. Death by Goddess Squad.

  • @chobitssofar
    @chobitssofar 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The Among Us waifu edition is fun 😂

  • @Chadw1cKed
    @Chadw1cKed วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great VOD. 👍🏻 Even though I wanted to strangle chat for most of it. 😬 lol

  • @Fiddlestick007
    @Fiddlestick007 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    passed out watching live, glad to see the vod so i can finish stream.
    also, for the record, i warned you not to keep pulling lol

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      play stupid games win stupid prizes I guess 🥹

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Btw did you check the other Nikke PVs?
    Might be a good reaction.

  • @ookumaBlue
    @ookumaBlue 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When i cleared 1-5 my first thought was "man cant wait for the reaction vods" crazy cool to see bits from red ash like this. And ayy happy birthday 🎉

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank youuuu 🥰

  • @arielm9847
    @arielm9847 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the sequence ending at 3:39:11, I'm pretty sure Oswald only brought human soldiers and Little Mermaid's ability froze everyone, including the other Nikkes. The reason Abe wasn't affected was due to her mask. She used it to block out Little Mermaid's command.

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ooohh, that would make a lot of sense!! (& nice to know my memory was correct in that it affects *everyone*)

    • @arielm9847
      @arielm9847 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vidianott Great VODs BTW. I've enjoyed seeing your reactions and takes on Nikke. I like it when people verbalize their theories and then have their expectations met or subverted in light of new information. Just a shame chat can't shut up with the spoilers sometimes :P

  • @bronylowt
    @bronylowt 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    47:38 - But it has a Barbie-version! xD It's called "The pink shoes" xDD

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      LOL I think that movie is suuuper loosely based on Red Shoes & Snow Queen (Frozen also is inspired by this one) if I remember correctly 🤣

  • @whisperingunknown1441
    @whisperingunknown1441 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A thought I had while watching is since they are keeping to the same beats as the fairy tales would red shoes and cinderella interaction be like the poisoned apple story? Since cinderella became basically catatonic or at least a passenger in her own body since being corrupted?

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is definitely an interesting theory! Especially since Nikke Cinderella’s story seems to be taking elements from both fairy tale Cinderella & Snow White where the poison apple appeared

  • @calebpetrie2206
    @calebpetrie2206 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i understand the tissue my gf yells at me for keeping napkins on my desk and im like i cry leave me alone

  • @foomiumperorosaurus8066
    @foomiumperorosaurus8066 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nikke designs either have highest of highs or lowest of lows. Inconsistencies is common in Korean games.

  • @EarthAuto
    @EarthAuto 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By the time you reach chapter 24, you'll begin to learn why crow has the bad rep that she has

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ngl Cinderella's situation reminds me of when Sirin possessed Kiana and became the Herrscher of the Void. The whole inner mental manipulation and deception bit included.

    • @roxas105ful
      @roxas105ful 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That’s he best way to explain it, but how she get corrupted and how can she still have red eyes of the corruption but is our ally?

    • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
      @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​​​@roxas105ful Well, to put it simply....time. Those red eyes stuck to her after 100 years due to corruption...even with Vapaus.
      Also applies to post-HotV Kiana having a golden eye.

  • @kyero8724
    @kyero8724 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Complaining about Hansel and Gretels outfits when your own avatar has ridiculous shit lol

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yup. 😌also there's a difference between a critique and a complaint.

    • @Zethorys
      @Zethorys วันที่ผ่านมา

      Relax dude, she only gave her own personal opinion about the design of a 2d fictional character...
      Sorry for my bad English.

  • @rainbowblitz246
    @rainbowblitz246 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im actually a little shocked that you're not a fan of the design for Hansel and Gretel. For me, Red Shoes is one of their more terrible designs. Looks like dressless 2b from wish with red boots.

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      LOL, I can see that. I’m fine with Red Shoes because the focus being on her legs/feet is very lore accurate to her og fairy tale haha. It’s not that I *don’t* like Hansel & Gretel - in fact they have one of my favorite weapons in this new set (Witch’s Cauldron 🤍).
      I like a lot of their design but I’m still trying to make sense of other aspects if that makes sense - I look at the Fairy Tale models with the lens of their tales in mind.

    • @rainbowblitz246
      @rainbowblitz246 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @vidianott i think you explained yourself better here. I can see where you're coming from. I guess the whole grimms/fairy tale theme wasn't that important to me when it came to characters' designs or personality, etc. Just something fun to throw into the world of nikke that wasn't meant to be that deep. That's just me. Sorry if I came across as an ass. There's been a lot of negativity in the nikke community that's gotten to me and took some of it out on you.

  • @kyero8724
    @kyero8724 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:20:30 Cinderella was corrupted by the Queen not some random Rapture. Pinne too, thats why they "resisted" it ain't nothing to do with Will Power.

  • @mercy144
    @mercy144 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    35:12 to each their own i guess, everybody can have their own opinion, but youll have to expect more designs like these in the future, a huge amount of the players is here for exactly these type of desings. You can obviously critisize them or rant about them, but id try and get used to the fact that these types of designs arent going anywhere. And thank god for that cause these two are my favorits

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Pfft...as you said, to each their own. I spent an entire video gushing about the various types of designs in this game & how much I love them. I even like Hansel & Gretel. But they feel "unbalanced" to me. *shrug*

    • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
      @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Btw is there an Overzone vod you did?
      If so I'd like to see it.
      I mean you did clarify you did it so....

    • @migue238
      @migue238 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol. That is incel words. You felt attacked when she was talking about art. Stfu.

    • @vidianott
      @vidianott  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 I have VODs for all streams! They will eventually get up to YT (I tend to upload everything aside from Anni things in the order that I did them). If you want to see them earlier, I suggest checking out my Twitch! The full VODs should still be up - though unedited and possibly with muted parts that won't be (fully) in the YT versions!

  • @porpoiseful253
    @porpoiseful253 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man no matter how many times I hear the English voices they always sound wrong and, not to bash anyone, worse than the JP voices

    • @jimmylu7169
      @jimmylu7169 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don’t know anything about it since I’ve been playing in Korean since the beginning. I’m not Korean but I wanted to listen to the game in the company’s language. I’m sure jp is immaculate though looking at their history of voice acting.