FN Auto 5: Anvil 0139
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- The bore is good, and all of the parts are here, so this project became interesting. 4 shop days to get through it, but the results were worth the grief. NOT a tutorial...we show what you need to learn, not how to do . Cannot perform at this level? Do NOT attempt. Support us: / anvil
Love the chuckle about the Hobby of building ammo. So often we get into reloading to “Save Money”. Then you chase the groups. Next thing you know you’ve got thousands of dollars of reloading equipment and supplies. However, if you do it smart you most certainly can reload and save money. The savings from loading 410 & low power 30-06/308 loads for the young ones to plunk with certainly has offset quite a bit of the cost. Amazing content as always, thanks for the videos. Cheers from Wa State.
No kidding. Had a french Darne double I had to make shells for. I very much appreciated his chuckle
Stop! I don’t like thinking about it!!! Haha
Best way to start a Sunday morning is to have a nice hot cup of tea and Mark Novak's art to go with it! Outstanding!
Now THAT is what proper age 'patina" looks like, good maintenance and typical proper repairs done over the years.
Ty[ical?
@@D5quared91 "typical" with a mistype, that'd be my guess.
Always a great day when a new Mark video is available. Couple years ago I bought a 1903 Springfield from a work friend that had been in the family since new (1912) - I refinished / restocked it and Mark's videos were instrumental in helping me do it right. I am very comfortable working with metal (been building custom/hot-rod/race cars professionally for about two decades) but wood isn't my thing. Thankfully, due to Mark - the end result not only looks great, but it looks "correct." Thanks for the great content.
That was the best way to set up the friction rings I have seen. The first gun I bought with my money was a A5 light twelve I paid $200 for in 1971.
Always a pleasure to watch a craftsman at work. Thank you, sir.
I'll never get tired of your content Mark, You're an artist bringin these old gats back to life!
I'll never understand letting a gun rot away into nothing for "collectability" sake, They were built to be shot and used and man i'd pay a lot more this one than i would any crusty "true" original model.
Keep it up!
I just picked up a 1954 FN manufactured Auto 5 last week, perfect timing for this video to drop!
The casual way that Mark uses "We" while describing work he's done by himself to include everyone who's watching and learning is a subtle sign of how good of a teacher he is. It must be awesome to apprentice with him.
A true craftsman. If you livestreamed your shop, I'd spend way more time watching it than I should.
Not enough internet, yet.
Spoke too soon! The old oil and whiting method before dye-pen testing. Learned about that in my early NDT days. That was cool!
I took down a Belgian made A5 once, and there will never be another time. Was nearly in tears 😭 by the time I got it back right, but I didn’t harm a thing, and I mean not even a screw. But damn was it tough. There was no TH-cam video to help me either back then.
Sir, you are a true craftsman. Such a beautiful natural Finish on the gun.
Not going to be able to hide the repair. So stack the deck in your favor. Brilliant!!!
Always a pleasure watching, listening and learning, much appreciation.
Thanks for this Mark. I have an old Franchi implementation of this recoil system that I’ve been struggling with short cycling. Now I know how I can decrease the friction braking.
I just wish Mark would do a slow, up close, pan of the gun, with good lighting, so we can all see the beauty of a professional rust blue job, plus a beautiful dark orange red stock refinish which preserves some of the dings and knocks that this gun received in its long history in the family. This is a general wish for all of Mark’s refinish projects.
Love the longer video Mark, great job as always.
Thanks Mark, & also Thank You for your service. I saved viewing for this great memorial day your skill and vids have kept me from screwing up some of my guns.
Glad to be of service
Your truly a master of your trade. The small bits I learn from watching are worth their weight in gold.
Nice use of the block plane. "Ridiculous sharp tool"... Tormek? I heard once, "Power tools get you 'close', but wedge and edge finish the job. A plane can remove less than .0005" per swipe.
While truing/sharpening the card scraper, find a moldmaker that has some DME 3/4" ejector pin cut offs. The really hard casing is wonderful to true card scrapers.
Keep an eye out for a Stanley #140 rabbet block plane. The knife is skewed and makes clean work of hard to handle grain.
Thank you for the content and videos.
Your descriptions and demonstrations have me chasing tools as I watch. I hope we cross paths someday.
Gun came out beautifully - there's something really satisfying about seeing you bring them back to life.
As a lover of the Auto 5 you have kept my collection looking beautiful and functional. Thank you Sir.
I love my Browning A5's so much more than any other shotgun I've ever used. The Ergonomics make it instinctively pointable and the quality really makes them last. I recommend buying a few replacement parts and New springs for these guns to keep them running for a long time. New buttstocks and fore ends are available from Midwest they even have a online store. Thanks for the great video. Y'all enjoy your Browning's!
Nice work again Mark! Always a pleasure to watch you do your magic.
Awesome video ! 👌🏻👍🏻
Had a ton of fun watching this.
Kind Thanks Mark! That shotgun is Beautiful! I did a little work on one line it this summer. There was a small missing piece on the main stock that had a checkered point. Being a cabinetmaker and restorer of period antiques with a good supply of period woods, I found a perfect color match. I have a few old checkering tools I resurrected and sharpened for the very small checkered point needed. It turned out fine and the owner was pleased. His Browning was in pretty good shape metal wise but my job was the replacement of the small piece of walnut. This video has taught me much and answered questions that came up as I was repairing. Many Blessings and Good Shootin and Thanks Again for being a Fine Mentor! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
That was a great episode and very enjoyable thank you for sharing this with us six stars sir
Thanks for demonstrating that restoring an old gun is not sandpaper, tru oil, and cold blue.
Thanks. That needed to be said.
Mark, I could sat all day and watch you work on gun, need to make more videos. 😊😊😊😊
Love watching your videos, a true professional with a great sense of humour amazing.
Thank you for another wonderful video. A great job Mark. 👏
Thanks Mark another great video and as always I learned something I didn't know before about checking one the old gun dad had whoever checked it they didn't follow the contours of the grip as you did with what was there his had only straight checking and a heavy leather but plate about 3/8 of an inch thick. The fore end wasn't original but was correct and un checked.
Live long and prosper,great watching .
Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful firearm
That is some amazing work.
Awesome job Mark. As always! God Bless
Excellent presentation !!!
Many of these 16 gauge FN’s have survived !!!
The original rust blue turned out very nice !!!
The timing of this video is great just picked up a Browning light 12 made by FN. now i have an in depth tear down on it. Thanks Mark for the work you do!
Just picked up a 1953 manufactured auto5 last week...
Needs a bit of restoration and cleaning, but not bad.
Damn this video was timely!!!
I'd love to strip off the urethane finish and give it a good oil finish like you show here, but I don't have the right tools to re-checker the furniture...
Ç'est la vie...
I have an old winchester that beats me to hell. You may have just saved my shoulder . Time to dig into it. Thanks
I used the scraping technique on an old stock this weekend that needed some love. Saved me a bunch of sandpaper. Thanks Mark
The Auto 5, the shotgun of choice for the British Army for jungle warfare in the 1950’s.
Loved it - Craftmanship!
I've got a Light Twelve made in the 50s, with a super cool "FN Browing Automatic" bakelite butt plate.
Once again I've picked up another trick, many thanks.
Thank you Mark
The pleasure was all mine. Thanks for sharing !
That turned out beautiful!
will always love your content ty for continuing to provide such wonderful content.
Excellence video !
A true craftsman 🍺🍺
"Gelatinous Mass of Goo Gobery" gotta love it !
Oh No! A Submariner using steel wool... Another great job Mark.
thank you Mark for the information.
Acetone and whiting has worked pretty well for me.
I had a 1930's FN A-5 12 Ga. with a poly choke for years. An absolutely wonderful gun to hunt dove with, In the end I had to sell it to a collector so that it would be better maintained, I still love the A-5 to this day.
Thanks Mark. Very informative
Was a pleasure watching, thanks Mark.
Love these videos, though they usually reignite the buying old guns itch.
Still one of the best shotguns ever made works good carries easy nice n lite and swings good
I owned a proper FN herstal Auto 5 and a Japanese made Auto 5.
Both very impressive
I have the Remington model 11 version. It was my first shotgun. They are sweet shooters.
1:17:55 Nothing ugly about rolling your own ammo.
Thanks for the lesson. Very enjoyable.
That type of iorn was also used in the covering of aircraft back when they had fabric coverd wings and fuselage.I have only done a fabric job twice since learning it in Airframe and powerplant school years ago.
12:00 ... I've always put a pipe on the inside of wood such as the forend you are working on to keep it from snapping as I put a bit more force from the vice. Now I didn't do it on a firearm piece of wood, so I don't know if the channel is even from front-to-back, but when working on U-shaped wood parts, putting a pipe that fits exactly in the channel keeps it from crushing or cracking. It allows more support for when the vice is holding the wood in place. You still don't crank down on the vice, but it does let you use more force without breaking the wood.
Another entertaining and informative episode. Keep up the great work!
Judging by the containers that are used for holding oil and stain, does your wife save every sour cream, chip dip, cottage cheese, or other plastic container that has ever been brought into the house, and has done so since the day after the honeymoon was over? Mine has, and I don't want to think I am all alone on this issue.
I use anything she can provide. Double using plastic containers is recycling, and makes us GREEN 💚
One just has to be careful clearly labeling the reused containers. I was storing my live bait in a Daisy sour cream tub on the fridge shelf for the weekend. My ex-wife wanted some sour cream on her freshly made pierogi...
Me: couldn't you use a thread pitch guage?
Mark: I'm going to show you something...
That was fun to learn thank you mark awesome beautiful work
Over 55 years ago, I picked up a Savage or Stevens of this type. Being in my teens, I thought more power was better- magnum loads. No idea how to set up the friction brake, so it beat the living daylights out of me.
Experience comes from making bad decisions.
Beautiful!
Amazing sound effects!
I had to start rolling my own for an OG Schmidt-Rubin in 7.5x53.5. Now if the Powder companies would go back to making the Cowboy Shooting powders, I could stock up. Trail Boss or Tin Star.
Scary thing is GP11 fits (my first cases were GP11 surplus, with the bullets pulled and powder replaced with TB) and will blow them up eventually.
OK, I have only been seconds into this video but what a great word! Tawilikers! lol, got to love it!
Another excellent video.
Thank you for these videos, these are great.
Wish I could come over there and be an apprentice at your shop. I like your work.
I've shot an auto 5 and the primary memory i have of it isn't the recoil but the trigger reset damn near breaking my finger. Still a cool piece.
"it's an engineering issue but it's John Browning so who's gonna tell HIM?"
I had to pause I was laughing so hard at that. "Sure as heck not me!"
Though in his defense he was the mechanicials guy, not the fit and finish or stock guy, right?
He worked in 1/16s. His brother the machinist, worked in thousanths. They did get it done, no?
indispensable video for auto 5 owners !
If you were like this back in the day, I bet your Chief lost his shit a few times over during field day. Some part of ERLL or the bilge looked like the day it left the builder's yard.
WHITE paint in those bilges...yes siree
Seems Truman-era ammo doesn't work in a Teddy Roosevelt-era shot gun. Need some era-specific hand loads. Only then 'speak softly and carry a big boomstick!' 😄
Great video as always Mark - so much knowledge and experience from one segment! Cheers and Dobri Dan!
Apologies if I've missed it (maybe there's another video where you explain it?) but why do you do all-mechanical finish removal rather than using chemicals? I'm sure you have good reason(s), but it seems to generate a lot of rework.
Outstanding!! I love Auto 5 Shotguns I have a FN 16 ga made in 1930 well used but loved. It is still 2 9/16 chambered. You can purchase 2 9/16” ammo from BOSS shot shells. Keep them coming how about a browning double automatic.
Back around 2015 I bought a 1920's as close as I could tell from what serial # records there are A5. It has a very nicely figured stock and no forend crack. But it does have a Cutts compensator on it. So I got it for all of $150. After I did my research on the friction rings I've always thought it was a really soft shooting gun when set up correctly. As the owner of a Winchester 1911, Remington 48, and a Remington model 8 and 81 I don't mind the long recoil shuffle. I always found it interesting how Browning used such thin screw slots because he didn't believe the average person was smart enough to work on his design. Which very well may have been true at the time and even now. According to the Browing biography FN hired the wives and daughters of the male employees to engrave the A5's by hand right up until production at FN stopped. Therefore no two engraved A5's are exactly the same.
Audience question, not for Mark. Which licenced production variant do people like more, the Model 11 or the 720?
720s are cheaper that what I'm looking to pick up
Stevens 720 have a nifty muzzle break IMHO.
@@joelpeterson8424 I don't remember a brake as a stock item, but the Lyman Cutts Compensator was popular back then.
I prefer the Remington model 11 myself. I scored one in 16ga about 15 years ago and with new springs she's been running like a champ. None of the Savage 720's I've seen have been machined as nicely as the Remingtons or Browning's.
@@celmer6 that is good to keep in mind 👍
Wonderful! THANKS
Outstanding
This reminds me. Ive always wanted an A5. Time to go find a cheap junker/ bag-o-gun I can restore.
Lucky if you find a cheap A5.
I recently found an old FN-manufactured Browning A5 16 Gauge, and yes, star-crimped shells won't eject! Thank you for that comment, putting me on the right path. However, I can't find any online resource for paper shells or maybe trimming plastic shells. Any info would be appreciated!
I have one too, 1924 vintage. I've found it's shell length rather than star crimp that is crucial. 65mm is good, 67mm not good.
@@rolandbretonmarch2334 Is this issue limited to the 16ga?
@@Milkmans_Son Sorry, don't know, have only owned the old 16. I would imagine though that the old FNs would be chamber length sensitive. The guy I bought it from said it would only cycle with paper cased roll crimped 65mm shells. I've loaded hundreds of plastic case 65mm shells with 30gm loads and it feeds and ejects them fine. Used a 16g Lee Loader and put some shims under the shell holders to make up for the reduced shell length.
Those Old 2 9/16" chamber's will give you problems with New shells. There's Smiths who cut the chamber to 2 ¾" and combined with New springs solves the problems.
Great video Mark! I have a 1916 Remington Model 11-A I restored however I am not a professional gunsmith and I have not finished the stock work yet. It does have the suicide safety and the internal parts were so caked up with crud, I had to use dental pics to clean them. I should have watched this video before I repaired the original forestock. It had a triangular wedge broken off on both sides where the pins were placed. Anyway, your videos are very educational. Maybe you could demonstrate how to remove the old rivet for the asbestos buffer in the back of the receiver.
Got a 1936 Wehrmacht 8 mm Mauser with all the armory stamps, dings, checks, cuts, gouges from use as a war weapon. It's in great shape and I thought of refinishing the stock (about 90 years of oil, finish, grime) but don't want to scrape off the character marks or crests. The metal parts show some rust and wear of the bluing. Thought I might try your bluing restoration method. Did you just soak in kerosene overnight? Or did you hot dip blue again on the FN A5?
Mark! epic flinch, it reminds me of... me. 0~o Always love to see anything on the venerable Browning A5. ^~^
Great episode! I have a number of shotguns (mostly 12 & 20 gauges). Essential tool for living in Alaska. Anyway, would love to put my hands on a FN Auto of same vintage. Always enjoy watching you work. BWT: I get a chuckle every time I hear you say something like, "beat the Terwilliger out of it". Where'd you get that one? In full disclosure, my last name is Terwilliger :) Good Times!
Navyism.....
Thank You
I love the whiting method! Never tried but will definitely give it a shot in the future. Have you ever had luck with soaking in acetone for heavy oil staining? I've had success with it but was wondering your thoughts on it.
I submerge the head of bad stocks to the middle of the checkering for a few days . The pores will be totally open and the wood bleached, so this is only for the hard cases. But it does work quite well
Whiting is ground chalk,used in the paint and glazing industries as a filler.
Thanks for sharing.
New Browning Auto-5s are a Benelli Inertia recoil action in a 'retro' outer. 😕
It's a Monokote iron for RC airplanes