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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2025
- I played against my chat. Maybe that was a mistake, because some of you know what mechanic to abuse to make me realize this game is hot garbage.
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The game needs to extend the hurtbox when drive rushing in to make it easier to check or at least make it a punish counter.
Both
@@shaunmcisaac782 i think one or the other would suffice. Both would be too much imo and the game would slow down to a crawl.
Didn't they added that already at year 2 update?
I lose more trying to check drive rush than anything in this game.
@@MrMegaman1417let it f'ing slow down, what's the problem here, since when a street fighter was hypersonic? I dont think nerfing drive rush will make this game slower than sf5 or sf4 anyway, some matchups in sf4 were a fireball fest for 20 seconds straight and nobody was complaining, i love slow fighting games, love me some solid ground game
It would be more tolerable if it didn't eat the opponent's inputs.
What do u mean
@@darktouchstudios8114 It doesn't eat all inputs, but it does some funky stuff with how it buffers inputs during the freeze. From what I've read, if you input and release jump during the freeze, it won't come out (you need to hold it). It can mess up some option selects because of priority and other stuff like that. The game freezing can also just mess with your timing and whatnot. It feels bad.
It doesn’t eat the input. It stops 🛑 time, basically you freeze 🥶 while the person 🧍♀️ is moving in quick time like Quick Silver from the X-Men.
That’s why you can hit DR when it’s further away from you. The closer it is the more powerful DR is that’s why people DR off of jabs.
Bro I can't tell you how many times I've checked a DR with HP and stanced with Chun-li but the DR freeze has frozen the QCB input for the stance
It's so stupid that making the correct read still loses to raw dr
The problem with this game is that almost everything is a read, there is counter to everything but it only works if you make a read, this game feels like being in a sfv's gief spd loop whenever you're anywhere near the opponent if that makes any sense
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Damn, no wonder I like sf6 so much
@@ChildOfChrist89Yeah the casual braindead people love this game
@@vasilykiselev6285 which is crazy to me because they’ll complain about Zangief that he needs to be nerfed to the ground, yet everyone is essentially Zangief when they score a knockdown in the corner.
I don’t know why Capcom just won’t listen when this sort of stuff was what was ruining Street Fighter V, and it’s like they made 1 step forward in the final season, then 2 steps backwards in this game…
Sf6 is like candy, cheap, easy and fast but eating it regularly is bad for your health
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Raw Drive Rush is easily the most braindead mechanic in this game. I play Manon too and often get hit by raw DR + some normal, not to mention some special moves that are canceled from a raw DR, like Akuma's new forward punch special move.
That’s why most manon players need to dumb down their style to match the other players since we usually fail to land the command grab since the opponent mashes like their life depends on it
" I often fail to check drive rush"
If the mechanic is SO good, why not use it?
Why not Perfect Parry it?
WHy not counter it with a SUper or CA?
@@blinblinthing Because it's too fast to react. Besides, the player can rush and stop too. I do these things sometimes, but it's not guaranteed. Regarding using the mechanic, I try, but Manon's DR is short and slow, so it doesn't help her too much.
@@lvsyagami it's not too fast because idom said he knows a DR is coming if you know a DR is coming and you can't counter it then it's your fault not the game fault. Unless if there's 0 way to counter it. Which is not true.
Hope you win Capcom cup🙏🤞for all us Manon mains
Oh sick the manon mirror made it into a video thank you so much for kicking my ass again brother! All love
I listened to the advice "If you don't enjoy the game, stop playing it". After a month having a blast playing some other fighters on Fightcade, I must say it. The simple truth is that Drive Rush is not broken or unbalanced like many other fighting game mechanics, but it is indeed extremely boring. What makes it feel broken is that the entire game is designed in a way that if you lose two or three interactions in a round, you lose. If you played any other fighter before, you have already noticed how perfects are very common in SF6.
And yeah, as some people commented here, playing this game makes you worse at other fighters. Not because of the neutral for me, but because my muscle memory was all messed up because here you can just press anything at any time and it will link. The state of the game is that Street Fighter 6 feels like a tutorial to fighting games, and not a fully fleshed one... Yup. I just feel sorry for you and all the pros that have to play this for money lol
True. Booted up SF4 the other day and got completely outplayed because I was impatient from SF6.
The drive rush tech was basically how you used to play Laura. They just gave it to everyone and removed Laura. So you're basically fighting against yourself
And just to rub the salt in the wound, they replaced Laura with a worse version of Laura and gave her the worst drive rush in the game. It’s like Capcom was targeting Idom specifically
They better not ever put no sht like drive rush in street fighter ever again
drive rush is simply just a terrible mechanic its only purpose was to speed up the game so that people who had horrible neutral can now play the game, its not even opinion thats just how the gameplay is designed now, having all your resources, plus the fact raw drive rush essentially costs nothing after they have blocked and taken the guess, then chipping your gauge out on top of this while your being harassed forcing even more guessing games on you as a player, litrally 90% of most matches are someone gets in with raw drive rush or someone gets in with button drive rush, and there is essentially zero downsides to either
Yea, there’s little to no footsies in the game anymore. Its all just whiff punish and drive rush
The big question is, is this mechanic going to change during the games lifetime or are we stuck with the current dr cancel spam until sf7. Mena mentioned in an interview that he believes sf6 is going to look more like sf4 by the end, i hope he is right and capcom get their shit together and address this shit (and the fucking throw loops while we are at it)
the patch that comes after capcom cup will give us the answer. I don't think much will change though. The Drive System IS sf6, and changing it will vastly change the way the game works.
@@martingutierrez2665 It doesn't need to be straight up removed, maybe just make it either cost more, have a slowdown in start up instead of a hard stop, stop drive gain for a bit, for the one that does it, sumn.
@@EeleyeDD They have to take away the Cr. MK -> DRC option select where the DRC only happens on contact. Make it like jabs where you just get a DRC and lose 3 bars for this. That's #1.
It also needs to stop eating inputs which it does and is bonkers. The game treats DR freeze like super freeze, so if someone supers and let's say you're late on the jab pressure. your jab doesn't come out and you block the super and punish. THAT should also be removed - 'cause the equivalent "save you from your own mistake" doesn't happen vs wakeup OD DP which has no freeze, in that case your late jab gets mauled.
@shaunmcisaac782 As a Ryu main, i was asking for the same nerf to cr mk -->dr. That it should only be on hit. I can't completely lose it as Ryu needs it but i can see why it's too sitting string on block
@@shaunmcisaac782 I kinda like that. Having people mindlessly buffer drive rush behind a hard to whiff punish 2MP is irritating as shit
DR is without a bought the most brain dead mechanic in a fighting game I’ve ever witnessed
So about that moment at the beginning of the video. I'm sure you (Idom) have probably already figured it out, but for anyone else wondering, Blanka's 4mk is disjointed which is why 2mp didn't hit him. Manon's 2mk or doing a yolo sweep might've been better for stuffing that DR even if 2mk wouldn't have lead to a combo if it connected at max range. It really do just be like that sometimes.
Good info. I ought to lab my chars disjoint vs non disjoint button VS drive rush some time.
What this game really gets me is when i do a command and the game just ignore it or it gives me another command like doing a hasho and i get a dp
I know your pain bro!
Drive Rush is just JoJo HTFT's stand dash attack with meter cost (also made by Capcom). It's seems like an out-of-place mechanic for some because JoJo HTFT is a very volatile, very high speed game and now this mechanic got ported over to Street Fighter which is known to be ground-heavy and slow game. They don't mixed quite well.
It's the exact same issue DBFZ had with superdash. It doesn't matter if you know that it's coming, you can't always react to it because its hitbox is variable depending on where they are (and in SF6, what they can press).
Drive rush is awful,it’s just as bad as Heat from Tekken 8.
Not even close! T8 heat mechanic is much better
@ Heat destroyed the mind games and neutral
@@azurviper513
How was heat much better when they had to drastically change a lot of its properties a few months into the game?
Finally someone recognized that!
It's like all fighting games are getting easier and cheaper to play
The plot thickens...
Playing ranked they spam the hell outta drive rush.
hey man at some point why not try another game if this annoys ya so much, cuz i dont think drive rush to create offense is leaving anytime soon
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Wow, after a year of Street Fighter 6, iDom finally figured out that the drive rush is bad! If he didn't complain about it all the time I would have never noticed!
He and other pros have been saying this since the beta. Try harder.
i only played SF6 for one day online and deleted it coz the drive rush ruined it
and the argument of " but you cant do it too" does not hold up
now every character has a built in cheap scrubby button that is pretty much always available
whenever i use it i feel like im playing like a cheapskate so it ruins the experience
They should at least have the option to disable drive rush and have online lobbies where its turned off
That’s called being bad
have you considered the possibility that you’re just bad
@@williamalbatross4677 that argument does not hold up either coz if someone drive rushes you you can just counter it by doing a drive rush which leads back to my original point that it just feels cheap to do. so even when you win it feels like cheap scrubby shit
Naw you just ass 🤣, brother you ain't with us.
@@williamalbatross4677 have you considered it's just a trash mechanic and you are a nerd
Bro that happens to me too much. Manons OD upkick switch’s sides too much. It moves forward and ends up on the other side in the corner on anti too. Especially in corners. It’s so annoying. It should have better overhead hit like guile anti does. It needs a better overhead hurt box.
Her down heavy punch is better at it but if your spending drive gauge you should get better hit box out of it like everyone else.
"in the viewer match" I'm dead lmao
Roman cancel is the best combo extender in a fighting game that I've seen.
Can you please comment on this maybe. If I go to do jab quarter circle forward light punch to up kick and I happen to accidentally hit jab during down forward her hit command grab will come out and I’ve even tried this in training by only hitting jab or medium punch once and still both moves come out . I really think this is a broken mechanic. This is part of the buffer system that actually ruins low forward combos. Yes I know. I should be a little more accurate my inputs but also you shouldn’t get two moves for one button press. I think that’s so broke.
It literally makes other characters combos way easier in some characters combos harder . I think it’s kind of stupid because some other characters have combos that will work like this.
11:10 manon player with the custom FT3 rounds setting is hilarious
Compilation of Idom getting drive rushed? I’m in
Having unreactable half screen sliding normals that leave you + on block. What could wrong
Your normal didn't have the range?
Yup. That’s y I stop playing sf. Drive rush is not for me.
They just need to get rid of the freeze. I don't care if it makes DR harder to buffer attacks out of it, i hate how this eats inputs
All they had to do is bring focus dash cancel in this game like 4. V trigger and drive rush is silly. If the moves were avaliable to the player for 30 years without the need for mechanics then, what do we need them for? We shouldnt have to work so hard to do simple ass combos we vets been doing for 30 years cmon now!!!!
3rd strike parry system. What a beautiful thing
Idom reacted too fast. If reacted on frame 0 of drive rush probably heavy punch gonna be better
He reacted around 14-16 frames. That's about as fast as you're gonna get. After comparing frames and the hit/hurboxes, Manon's heavy probably would have worked, but it would have lost to almost any other button
Drive rush ruin sf6. Very lame mechanic
I agree. Drive rush sucks! You are force to drive rush especially at master ranks. Because if you dont, you gonna die!!!!! 😂😂😂
the lore on the capcom cup ban?
I hate SF6. I been enjoying 5. Theres actual fireball game.
That's like going from sh*t to p*ss
Lol same here. After 3,4 months of sf6 I went back to sf5. I'll keep playing sf5 as long as the online is still active. Still a lot of ppl playing sf5.
I know what you mean, especially when you know it’s coming.
3:24 Cuz you pressed a button beforehand.
This game is trash
I don't understand why you want to play Manon when the driverush mechanic works against you
Do you not see how flawed that logic is?
@@RamonesFan201 Let's get specific. If he hates raw drive rush, play a character that does well against driverush. Tf is wrong with that logic?
It's easy to find characters that are better against raw driverush than manon, pick litterally anyone else. It doesn't matter if they nerf driver-rush, manon would still be the worse at checking it. Unless they buff manon against drive-rush, then Manon will struggle against it, forever, forever
@@laffy7204The logic fails when you take into account that several people probably like to play Manon and thus shouldn't be punished for playing a character they like. Counters exist, but this is a mechanic that every character has.
@@laffy7204 👆
@@pedrourbano501 Bro, I'm not capcom. If capcom chooses to punish manon mains, I can't do nothing. The biggest real choice you and I have is in character select
For me, character select isn't an issue, I have 3 characters in Masters I'm ready to main. How players find only 1 character interesting is beyond me
Also the juri guile is bad!! Especially if the guile is good
its funny cus ppl cried about kolin vt2 but everyone loves drive rush sf6 best sf ever :)
People forcing themselves to put this game on pedestal
@@KnucklesWTDperhaps an overreaction to the perceived improvements from SF5 to SF6? I agree with the overwhelming majority that 6 is better than 5, but sometimes 5 is over-hated while 6 is overly gassed up, and people seem more willing to deal with or deny its problems.
@@KnucklesWTDI feel that changing Crush Counter to Punish Counter and creating Modern Controls are the closest things to being objectively good changes from 5, anything else is up for debate. I love Drive Rush as a mechanic but I’m also degenerate in sf so that may just be Capcom catering to my all crayon diet.
@@ChildOfChrist89 definitely an overreaction,people were hungry for a new SF. Also a lot of people eat off this game so collectively the community protected it.
Yeah got a full face of it messing with all the juri players last night it's so annoying raw dr and low mk spam into dr be killing me man
Cr mk --> dr is for us SF4 players but it does need to be only on hit to balance it out
@@urbansouljah1 why cause of FADC cancels? giving up two bars of meter into ultra? i'm casual but i don't see the difference in terms of resource spending especially if you drop it and now you're in a predicament that could chip you out or have you eating a full combo in return
what a game, WHAT A GAME
Also Drive Impact. Two sides of the same coin.
Super Dash in DBFZ hands down worst mechanic 😂
Debatable lol
The was people complain and cry makes me predict SF 7 is gonna be boring as fuck.
2:41 I honestly don't see the problem.
Doesn't it just look like you missed the timing in the first clip?
iDom got punish countered. That confirms he got the timing down. There’s no hurtbox under Blanka’s leg so it was basically nothing for iDom to hit. A slower button by iDom probably would have got countered.
give manon a slow fireball and that’s Laura. Kinda
She's got like an ice motif to her moves, so an ice ball would work
Never understood Laura having an electric fireball though. Must be a Brazilian thing in Street Fighter.
Idom play manon the worst drive rush character in game.
homie is surprised someone with a nickname "knickro" has a yellow card xD
IDOMS GONNA FREAK
So all the complaining that was buffered from the previous video got pushed to 0:01?
Complain about Drive Rush
Say that it is the way it supposed to be because "I guessed wrong" (got hit from teleport while guessing/defending DR).
... in previous videos complain about "guessing in SF6".
Dude, stop playing SF6. It is eating your soul. You are one of America's top players, but it is painful to watch you struggle in every single upload and interview.
Money is worth more than his enjoyment, and so he will continue to suffer. Simple as.
is that SF3 music?? that song is so goated
iComplainDom
iDom is like a Tekken Fan in the SF community. 😂 I still love him though, just cries a lot - and I probably would too it I was that good or relied on playing a game for a living
They need a dodge mechanic or something different to check raw drive rush…
Perfect Parry?
@ no perfect parry is for regular hits like he said if you know it’s coming what do you have that fast besides a jab check
@@Yonnireed0101 you can perfect parry anything tho bro
@OutCastSwagg yea but what happend if the drive and grab so how do you prefect parrie that?
@@OutCastSwaggalso some characters drive rush are hard to react to and let's not forget about a grab to go with that so how would they perfect parry a fast drive rush with a grab???.....
Nonsense.
Drive rush is why a lot of people stopped playing the game
Heat mechanic is why a lot of fans play tekken it sounds like the fgc complaining in general
Lol this video just to bring some hate to us, I guess this is unhinged. If u don't like maybe you can't quite to play and wait for SF7. But I believe you will say same thing when SF7 comes out.
Lol
Gotta double down to keep that ego intact.
why you got hit? because you pick Manon
Sin llorar we
Dump Manon
Embrace the Ken
Become the Demon
SF6 is cheap, a FnG for ppl that can't play SF, a cheap mechanic semi invincible tactic for free hits. Characters so fast w so much range it takes little to no skill to play effectively. The lightest fastest button can lead into the most extensive combos in any SF and it's more like a Marvel game now. DR should do minimal dmg if anything.
This week on players who can’t adapt:
Idom and his viewers defending the title of “biggest haters”!
By that logic you can go live in a sewer and adapt. Give it a try.
@ Um yeah cause adapting to a mechanic in a video game and adapting to living in fecal matter irl are literally the same!
my god
@Blasarius0your brain left the chat
@@bulthaosen1169 I don’t think you understand what “logic” even is quite frankly.
Wait! Is idom actually banned from Capcom Cup?!
I think it was a joke like if he wore gamesucks merch he might get the banhammer
@@e-duh3529 that's what I was hoping. I checked the capcom cup qualifiers and I still saw his name there so was confused lol.
It's not the worst mechanic. It's just bad for Street Fighter lol
Ehhhhh It's just MK3 and MKX's Run.............I love it!
I have a question? Last I checked every character has the Drive System. Which includes utilizing a parrying system. So if every character has the same tools, What’s the issue? Cause I’m not sure why Drive rush is a problem, all of sudden.
every character has it, but it's not universal across the board. it's like giving everyone a hammer, but some people get the dollar store 5 in one screwdriver hammer combo and others get a real hammer that can drive nails easily. another issue is that it just makes pressure so easy. I rely on it so much that it has made me worse in other fighting games.
does not matter you play casino all day and it takes no skill in sfv you had to at least be decent enough to hitconfirm in this game just mash drive rush you gonna be plus anyway its stupid
@@martingutierrez2665 well that’s reality, sports and martial arts in general. Everyone plays the same sport but it’s who’s better at those positions right? The same rules apply when you have the ball. Also in the military, we all get the same training. Not everyone will fight the same and we are not built that same. But we do have our own advantages…
@@alexmaganda5827 that’s what a parry and a drive impact is for, rock, paper scissors….listen I’ve been playing fighting games since the late 80’s so I guess coming from that era, I play games with a different outlook. I use to difficulty and figuring it out. Not spoon fed. You picked a character (discipline) learned as much as you can and try to dominate…
@@martingutierrez2665 I play guilty gear, and other Arcsystem games, and Anime games too…Plus King of Fighters…I guess I’m just use to the speed
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no importa que juego de pelea estes jugando siempre tendra la peor mecanica de la historia xd
La verdad, creo que a este tipo le vendría bien buscar un juego no competitivo
But it kinda funny doe
I stop playing sf because I despise that mechanic . This is not street fighter . Sfv is so much better than this garbage
Mr. Puff Puff?
LOLOLOL!
Grow up, kid.
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Oh wow the best mechanic that CapCom has made - most players
This is trash - an actual CapCup champion… 🤔
I like it though daddy
Wth you were banned??!
No he wasnt
@badtzkoala8345 damn nice
Imagine if NBA GM be like NO WAY! THREE POINT SHOTS ARE SO TRASH and he continues to refuse to acquire any shooters?
Imma speak for errybody else in the room. Dafuq you tallmbout???
The literal beginning of this video is the problem I have with this game more than drive rush. There’s no real high low mid in this game except for a few moves and on big characters. That aside just giant fucking hit boxes on brainded buttons that; in a more consistent game, wouldn’t hit you when you use the proper read to punish them. For example. If you are a shoto and throw out s.HP to fish? My c.HK as Manon should punish you on reaction not the other away around because her hurt box gets extended forward on top of her moving forward. Shit like that is bad game design and makes things unintuitive.
Glad I uninstalled.
Skill issues
@braindead fishing off big buttons isn’t a skill issue. That’s lazy game design.
You're just weak that's why😂😂😂 unable to adapt
So are people hating on sf lately? Is tekken 8 better?
They hate tekken 8 rn too because of heat mechanic
Sf6 is the first fg ive taken seriously, but coming from other games....DR a bs mechanic no question, but as far as bs mechanics go? I think it's pretty tame
Agreed
Drive Impact is stupidly dumb. They need to reduce the armor to 2 hits.
I don't think they'd do that since most meterless ways to get pressure or a knockdown are designed to lose to DI, and that includes some buffers like Juri 2mk into store, or TCs like Ken mk, mk, hk.
So if DI only had 2 hits of armor certain meterless options would be way better, and I don't think the devs want that.
You need to stop sucking ass at the game
@@thatguy8841 You need to stop writing nonsence in comments on yt
@@Cyanigosa13 nonsense*
DI is legit the easiest thing to defend against do better
Manon sucks ..give it up ..I like loyalist but you are a pro if you want to win she is not it ...some characters will always be at the bottom ...respect you being loyal to your characters..I do the same but I'm not a pro
"I knew it was going to happen" is what modern players say to justify not needing timing and execution. Just because you know what to do, doesn't mean you automatically get to punish. You still have to execute and properly time it.
0:00 that happens when your not precise enough cause its not about what you know,its about the actions that you make happen,period.
SF4 launches: *focus attack and double ultra the worst mechanic ever*
SF5 launches: *v skills and v triggers the worst mechanic ever*
SF6 launches: * Drive system and burnout the worst mechanic ever*
SF7 launches: ______________________________________________________
This nga perma complain, like shit man it ain't no meme no more. I'm outta this channel.
Just because Drive rush give allows weaker player to give hard times to pros players, this mechanic is killing SF6 ?
I could not disagre more. I understand Stronger players hate loosing to weaker players but if Drive rush is all it takes to be at pro level (skipping neutral), that means pros are not that strong because counters measures to punish Drive rushs are in the game.
Just improve and get even stronger so Drive rush will not upset you. It is a game so the majority of players are supposed to enjoy playing the game, not just the pros and the contents creators.
@@marcoliviertoure1676 Imagine if they suddenly added autoaim to Valorant to skip the aiming skill ceiling in order to bring new players and close the gap between pros and casuals, would that be nice? Pros could still rely on getting better positioning and map control. Or maybe, just maybe... That is a terrible idea. But somehow when applied to fighting games this kind of stuff is acceptable
Just play another game lmao
Drive rush doesn't suck I also don't think your bad, but your character is bad at dealing with characters with a fast drive rush or a good button after drive rushing
The worst fighting game i have ever played
You haven't played a lot of fighting games
lmao