[Karl Richter] Bach: Magnificat in D, 1962
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- Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
Magnificat in D major BWV 243
Münchener Bach-Chor
Münchener Bach-Orchester
Karl Richter
1962
00:02 01-Choir - Magnificat anima mea Dominum
03:02 02-Aria (Sopran II) - Et exsultavit
05:46 03-Aria (Sopran I) - Quia respexit
08:45 04-Choir - Omnes generationes
10:18 05-Aria (Bass) - Quia fecit mihi magna
12:34 06-Duetto (Alt,Tenor) - Et misericordia
16:21 07-Choir - Fecit potentiam
18:42 08-Aria (Tenor) - Deposuit
20:54 09-Aria (Alt) - Esurientes
23:52 10-Terzetto (Sopran I,II,Alt) - Suscepit Israel
25:43 11-Choir - Sicut locutus est
27:37 12-Choir - Gloria
29:00 13-Choir - Sicut erat in principio
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00:02 01-Choir - Magnificat anima mea Dominum
03:02 02-Aria (Sopran II) - Et exsultavit
05:46 03-Aria (Sopran I) - Quia respexit
08:45 04-Choir - Omnes generationes
10:18 05-Aria (Bass) - Quia fecit mihi magna
12:34 06-Duetto (Alt,Tenor) - Et misericordia
16:21 07-Choir - Fecit potentiam
18:42 08-Aria (Tenor) - Deposuit
20:54 09-Aria (Alt) - Esurientes
23:52 10-Terzetto (Sopran I,II,Alt) - Suscepit Israel
25:43 11-Choir - Sicut locutus est
27:37 12-Choir - Gloria
29:00 13-Choir - Sicut erat in principio
Mozart's thoughts on Bach: "He is the father, we are the children" (actual quote)
Didn't C.P.E. Bach say that?
@@elias69420 Mozart said it. But he referred to C.P.E. Bach NOT J.S. Bach.
This is beautiful. Richter was a pioneer in his day and also simply a great musical artist, which cannot be said for at least some of the more modern cutting edge "historically correct" conductors. Thank you.
I would have to agree, with the newer condustors, its 'too much flower, and not the power'.
Herreweghe is my favorite when it comes to Bach
Michael Lair. Many people prefer Richer's Bach-performances, and you are welcome to do so. But HIP-performances make attempts to bring this old music closer to the original style. In my opinion it is important to restore old music like we restore other artefacts from the past. Old written sources don't confirm Richter's Bach-performances.
@@geiryvindeskeland7208 And, of course, you are familiar with these "old written sources" for sure! And, to bring and restore the source--discourse on authenticity--smells very bad!
Ildar Khannanov. Here are a few examples of information we find in old sources: BWV 874, Preludium D major. The time signature are cut C and 12/8. When 12/8 is combined with cut C, we understand that 12/8 can be a fast time signature. The opening chorus of BWV 244, Mattew Passion is written in 12/8, and without shorter note values than eights. Therefore we know that Richter's pace is too slow. In the letter of employment Bach had to sign in Leipzig in 1723, we read: "...and I don't want to perform any music that sounds like opera." Listen to Richter's soloists - it sounds like opera. Old sources say that women's voices in church music were not allowed. That's why boys sang the top voices that are now usually sung by women. Just a few examples. But some conductors and musicians have studied the old souces for years. Imagine if they would tell us everything they know!
My soul extols the Lord,
And my spirit has rejoiced
in God my savior
Because he looked on his servant
in her lowliness.
For behold from now on
will call me fortunate
All generations,
Because he who is strong
has done great things for me,
and his name is holy,
And his mercy extends
from generation to generation
to those who fear him.
He has used the power of his arm:
he has scattered the haughty
in their prideful thoughts.
He has cast down the mighty
from their thrones
and raised high the lowly.
He has filled the hungry with good things
and sent the rich away empty.
Mindful of his mercy,
he has helped Israel his servant,
As he promised
to our forefathers
Abraham and his descendants forever.
Glory be to the Father, glory to the Son
and glory to the Holy Spirit,
as it was in the beginning,
is now and will be always,
even for ages of ages.
Amen.
In High school, my choral teacher had me listen to this. I mustv played it like 9 times and drove the man crazy, but it was my first introduction to Bach and his orchestra. After which I considered Bach to be the greatest composer, period.
What sets Richter apart? How about from 17'40" to 18'40" in this recording? Stunning power of high brass and the organ coming forward in this moment of Western Art. Only Bach and Handel could achieve glory in music like this.
I think that Richter used the full organ, also the pedalboard. He usually used the full capacity of the organ, a real organ and not the small organ like the other interpreters.
Karl Richter, Karl Richter, tenía que ser Karl Richter con la excelente orquesta Bach de Munich, que bellísima obra de Bach, he disfrutado de esta magnífica ejecución, gracias, muchas gracias.
¡Excelente versión! Karl Richter, orquesta y coro, sublimes.
This is wonderful. I watch the music and the altos sing "as written" in the correct pitch as shown in the correct clef for the sounding pitch, and the sopranos, tenors, basses are in the right clefs and as shown.. My mind rests finally. Thank you. This truly is exhilerating!!
IMHO, the newer performances is faster. ;)
The year of this recording is 1962!!
OUI, c'est la plus belle version avec Richter et ces interprètes merveilleux.
I am truly enjoying your large scale vocal works by Bach uploads, especially those by Richter. This piece fills my spirit with joy. Thank you.
Que beleza de interpretação, vibrante...festiva...adorável!
YA NO HAY RESPETO PARA LA BUENA MUSICA, INTERRUPIENDOLA CON ANUNCIOS, NO TODO ES NEGOCIO Y DINERO .
In deed wonderfull interpretation , strong , soft but pure at the same time, and universally projected to the infinite where BACH came from , great soloits and great balance of the Chorus, orchestara and voices. thanks for showing the score just in the clebs that BACH wrote . Of course it must be Karl Richter conduction , one of the best BACH'S conductors, I also recomend Karajan and Bernstein versions , but never the puritans like Gardiner and someone else with untuned instruments, fast tempos, UF!.I have enjoyed it from the begining the end . Extraordinary version ! , the "tempo" is exactly what i like . Thanks
Tak toto je krasa. Nejlepsi cast O salutaris a zacatek Magnificat.
En este caso, Bach compuso la obra en 1723 para la vísperas de navidad en la ciudad de Leipzig, donde en esos momentos residía. El maestro se ciñe a los versos del evangelista Lucas, distribuidos entre el coro y los solistas. Preciosa.
I honestly believe that Bach sometimes forgot that singers need to breathe on occasion :P
I love Karl Richter. I was lucky enough to see him perform an organ recital before he died. Thank you for this post. It's exactly what I was looking for.
Destaca el coro inicial "magnificat anima mea Dominum" y el "Fecit potentiam", "Gloria Patri". Una obra muy bonita.
Thank you very much for sharing this masterpiece and master performance. Happy 2013= Feliz 2013.
Are you normal to allow to put Always for Women advert to this after first 10s?
Enjoy this very much. Its on Dies Irae (DG) Choral Collection 1997 and sounds super to me.
Richter: the BEST for Bach!
Very clear and crisp sound but lacks the power and might of Bach. It has to sound Magnificent with all the grandeur. On the contrary the performance is more of a chamber character.
El magnificat es un canto religioso habitualmente interpretado del desde el siglo XVI en el canto de las horas.
sine verba sumus , gratias agimus.
MAGNIFICAT!!!!!!!!
Podle me. Byl Bach stokrat lepsi skladatel nez Mozart.
maestoso e brillante.Di più non si può!
Karl Richter !!!!
Absolutely Heavenly! My soul thanks you...
O love his version. Thank you
I particularly love music videos of masterworks that include the score. Thank you!
the movement seams so slow because it is a version from 1962: Karl Richters conception of tis work from J.S.Bach. I love it so.
Nowadays the musicians goes too fast they are good technicians but what are they doing whith the soul ? We lost spiritiual vibrations.
@@remixuereb aaaaaaaah!!! You have PERFECTLY reason!!!!! Musical expression NEED this time, never too fast. 👍👍👍👍👍🤝🤝🤝
GRACIAS INFINITAS, QUE BELLA MUSICA!!!
By far my most favorite of cantatas and the best recording I've heard - spirited but never rushed, passionate and captivating! I took this to our choral teacher in high school and he pulled our orchestra in to perform it. What a thrill! Nearly killed my friend who had to learn to play a C trumpet.
Si l'on se rappelle que cette version fut enregistrée en 1962, soit aux quasi débuts de la bande magnétique, que la Deutsche Grammophone brillait déjà dans la manière de capter les différents sons (placement des microphones, console son, mixage, etc...) et si l'on se souvient que Karl Richter a enregistré au moins 5 ou 6 fois ce BWV243 chez le même éditeur, les autres versions ne résistent pas à celle-ci qui est à tous égards un sommet (clarté, tempo, qualité des solistes et des choeurs, orchestre comme l'on sait, trié sur le volet, micros directionnels et mixage sur 24 pistes pour tout ramener sur deux pistes stéréo), tout cela fait que ce Magnificat, la plus belle cantate de Bach, est une pure joaillerie et a été, je pense, réédité en DVD et aussi en BLURAY (son) avec une avalanche de détails à couper le souffle. Nous sommes en septembre 2022 au moment où je rédige ce commentaire, il y a donc 60 ans que cet enregistrement a été réalisé et suscite encore beaucoup d'admiration !
Thank, MANY thank for the score! I don't know read the music well, but this is a great help to encourage us to do it, and to learn the music and PLAY it too! Thank you a LOT! From Rome, Italy
It has been offered to me when I was a teenager, and it was a marvellous gift to give you the needs to be passionate by Bach and the great management of Karl Richter for the most fabulous hearing play of Magnificat. Chorus was unstoppable to listen. It's a very masterpiece of Bach.
Seems a shame so few recordings of this use adults for the S & A parts and operatic men for the TB parts.
The bass is Dietrich Fisher Dieskau ?
Yes〜😊👍✨🙆🏻⭕️
MAG NÍ FI COOOOO !!!!!!
Hahahahagnificat!
Grossartig! Richter kostet die Grösse dieser Musik voll aus. Die modernen Dirigenten musizieren meistens viel zu schnell
il primo disco grande che ho comprato , Upim, 1968.... ciao a tutti e buon anno.
why are the movements so slow?
In deposuit, is a bass player doing the Organ continuo line? For the longest time i thought that to be the case.
Oui, je pense comme vous, c'est une des meilleures versions bien que certains ne comprennent pas la "lenteur" de cette interprétation.
A beautiful interpretation.
I suspect if I were just starting out now, I'd find it a bit ponderous, instead of solemn, measured, and powerful -- but it's the one I grew up with (my folks' collection), so it will always have a special place in my ears, and in my heart.
Thank you so much for promoting it here... and especially for doing so in true hifi bitrates!
OUI, c'est la plus belle version avec Richter et ces interprètes merveilleux.
why are the movements today so fast ??
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Einfach fantastisch!!
bellissimo! la dizione oggi fa sorridere....ma bellissimo!!!
OUI, c'est la plus belle version avec Richter et ces interprètes merveilleux.
ADS in between???
The better version
La mellieure version
La mejor interpretaciòn
Maginific@ en_para_con Todo el Amor 😇
Muchas_Gracias_Señor_Diós_"Mío".
bravo........
OUI, c'est la plus belle version avec Richter et ces interprètes merveilleux.
YES!
💞
Suscepit Israel WAY to fast. Nothing here is too slow.
Do you choose to criticise this particular bit because of "Israel" in the title? Esurientes not too fast? Sicut locutus - there's Abraham" mentioned there?
Paulius Kulikauskas lol,what the hell, I hope you're kidding.
and anyway, the 'Sicut locutus est' is too slow.
0:58 02:55 29:44
I heard a performance of the Quia fecit mihi magna part performed on a cello instead of an organ. I think it goes much better with a cello than an organ.
I don't hear any continuo? No harp, guitar...harpsichord??
Hm, I hear it finally at 10:40 in No. 5. That took a while.
Guitar? Really?!? lol
Tarquin Flanagan chuckle - not even a lute.
This was in the days before performance practice took off. Most of the notation is improperly realised, but excellent musicianship despite.
Elliott Encarnación may I add that Dieskau makes everything better?
Il eut été bon d'avoir le nom des solistes...
Vincent Frieden Dietrich Fischer-Diskau en baryton.
Maria Stader - Soprano (3, 10) -- Herta Töpper Contralto (2, 6,10) -- Ernst Haefliger Tenor (6, 8) -- Dietrich Fischer diskau Basse (5,)
18:42
12:34
OUI, c'est la plus belle version avec Richter et ces interprètes merveilleux.
practice 4:33
5:04
3:02
Are ya practicin', son?
Oui, je pense comme vous, c'est une des meilleures versions bien que certains ne comprennent pas la "lenteur" de cette interprétation.
What a dreadful Soprano soloist, is the Contralto an owl?
Pronunciation of the Latin is interesting too.
The opening is a good tempo, but were they being paid overtime for the rest - at three-quarter speed?!?
Had to stop listening to this as it's possibly the worst recording of this I've ever heard - who is it?!?
Tarquin Flanagan The Latin pronunciation is approximately Austro-German Latin. It is generally accepted as the standard for singing works by Bach, Mozart, etc, as it is probably what those composers had in mind instead of the modern Italianate Latin pronunciation.
It's not the Latin pronunciation which I've been used to singing in choirs in the Uk - including a Cathedral Choir for four years :-)
Tarquin Flanagan Sibeliustx is correct: There are generally two forms of Latin pronunciation, the Italianate (Roman) and the German. If the composer is not German/Austrian, then usually the Italian Latin is used.
Despite your own considerable achievements, Karl Richter's cv, if you care to peruse it, may temper your expression of disapproval! Besides, TH-cam offers a large and varied menu, so there is something to everyone's taste. May you discover unrestrained enjoyment of your choice of music!
Please note the date of this recording - whereas it is not a rule, tempi tend to get faster with time... Some of the interpreters (e.g. Menuhin) also get faster when older. This is the 1st recording of Magnificat by Richter, he made a 2nd one 8 years later. I do not have it at hand, but it would be interesting to compare if the tempi are actually faster in the second one...
Poor Bach! This Magnificat is a painful caricature ... This happened when certain directors believed they could play Ancient Music like that of the Romantic age. Fortunately today no one plays Bach in this way.
Awful narrow-minded comment...
@@tnsnamesoralong Only people who have no arguments judge the opinion of others by resorting to insults. Music lovers, like professionals, should understand that alongside the history of music there is now a history of musical executions and ignoring this fact means being obscurantists. Karl Richter belongs to a tradition that had no qualms about performing the ancient music in an arbitrary way and without any appropriate stylistic reference. He was convinced that the interpreter could afford every freedom, including the use of instruments instead of others, such as when he used the English horn instead of the oboe da caccia or the transverse flute instead of the recorder when he perforned the Bach's cantatas. All this deliberately avoiding the research of musicology which, starting from the 1950s, was investigating the treatises and manuals of the period, with the aim of placing this music in a historical perspective. Richter preferred to ignore these innovations and brought his obsolete style into a dead-end street. These are the reasons why today this type of performance sounds like a caricature.
@@Astor962 Sorry, I have arguments but I won't write them for a meaningless debate. In fact fortunately Richter's legacy is alive, beginning e.g. Helmuth Rilling.
By the way I can't and I don't want to convince you about an another valid point of view. IMHO The life is complex and colorful. It fit inside some "romantic" approach and some historical("authentic") music "transcription" trend. Both can be good.
@@tnsnamesoralong Now it's a little better ... However, Helmut Rilling is the same generation as Karl Richter. Both come from an outdated tradition, learned from between 30s and 40s by teachers who owed their job thanks to loyalty to the German government in those years.
@@Astor962 I absolutely don't agree with you and this is the end of the story. You can't interpret what I write.