How This Weird Motorcycle Changed The Industry Forever

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    The Ariel Square Four has largely been forgotten by modern riders. It's an oddball bike developed in the late 20s and 30s with a one of a kind 995cc square four motor. This crazy classic motorcycle created ripples throughout the industry, including the Triumph Bonneville and the cafe racer craze.
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:48 - History Time
    02:24 - Ariel Motorcycles
    02:49 - The Square Four
    04:07 - It's Impact
    04:40 - What Makes It Weird
    06:13 - The Bad Stuff
    08:06 - The Cost
    09:21 - Start Up
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  • @spitescorner
    @spitescorner  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Huge shoutout to the guys at Limey Bikes for letting me bother them all afternoon! Check them out here: chris-kelland.squarespace.com/#about Do y'all want more spotlights on weird older bikes?

    • @Legotruck82
      @Legotruck82 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes please. Modern reviews etc are everywhere, there isn't a HUGE amount of looking at older stuff, although the "bart" channel does some neat history stuff

    • @realkingtv7885
      @realkingtv7885 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As long as it doesn't involve your adventure bike and sport bike bashing

    • @Errol.C-nz
      @Errol.C-nz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      BS .. you're fing weird..

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@realkingtv7885 Don't know what you're talking about. I only own sport bikes and adventure bikes.

  • @fullmetalcorgi1350
    @fullmetalcorgi1350 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    After 2 years Spite finally isn't the only square in his videos! 😂

    • @jayluper9523
      @jayluper9523 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Holy moly it's been 2 years???

    • @Wild-Wood
      @Wild-Wood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@jayluper9523That's crazy that it's already been 2 years 🤯

  • @wizrom3046
    @wizrom3046 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    My dad had one of these in the 1950's in England when they were just transport, not collectables lol.
    He said it was too heavy, unreliable and they always overheat. He also said that people used to take the head off and modify it so the head could go on backward with the carbs at the front, to get more cool air in it.
    He sold it after a short while and generally preferred his single cyl bikes like the red hunter, matchless and 500cc Vincents he owned.

    • @dirkdiggler5164
      @dirkdiggler5164 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This may be a dumb question, but how did he know when it was overheated ?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@dirkdiggler5164 the rpm on tick over would increase. The clutch becomes very grabby. You can feel the heat radiating. And it smells like hot metal and oil

  • @Ramonatho
    @Ramonatho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    "If you weren't particularly attached to your flesh vessel."
    Spite man, you gotta watch Psychomania. It's a silly action horror comedy from way back in the day about immortal bikers hitting "the ton" (100 mph).

  • @colinhailey830
    @colinhailey830 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That sound bought back memories, going up a motorway at the speed limit and having an Aerial go past like we were parked.

  • @nickrider5220
    @nickrider5220 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'd never heard one running before, sort of like two smooth, old Triumph speed twins running side by side 👍🏻😎

  • @dumptrump3788
    @dumptrump3788 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If you don't count the rotary engines THE WIERDEST is actually the Brough Superior Golden Dream &, sadly, I am old enough to remember them actually being ridden to bike shows, not trailered there, although I never saw more than 3 at any one time. The Golden Dream was a Double Flat Twin, so think of 2 BMW flat twins stacked on top of each other & the two cranks were coupled with gears. They sounded VERY smooth. AFAIK there's only one Golden Dream left, hidden in a barn in Wales, or so the rumor goes.
    As for rear brake on the left, shifter on the right, this was due to the side of the road that Brits drove on & the popularity of sidecars. A left side rear brake means you can press the sidecar wheel brake at the same time.

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a Brit, the Square Four is, along with the Brough Superior SS100 are two bikes that are right at the top of my Bucket List to ride. And yes, I can imagine the Square Four does not enjoy Texas weather; they suffered overheating problems in the UK, which is not famed for being particularly hot most of the time! And yes, I totally get the Limey Mechanic wanting one despite all the flaws.
    Such a random yet cool video Spite.

  • @luddite6239
    @luddite6239 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for showing this. My dad had one in the 50s and also a Sunbeam S7, which was like half a Square Four with one cylinder in front of the other. Both suffered from overheating rear cylinders but, despite all its faults, dad said the Ariel was probably his favourite bike. The only other mainstream square four I can think of is the Suzuki RG500 - and that's a completely different animal!

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ah Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. You know, a very long time ago I once applied for a wiring job at Lucas, they turned me down because I was too good (no word of a lie). After that I got a job building "computers".

    • @firefighter1c57
      @firefighter1c57 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Lucas made one product that didn't suck. Unfortunately it was a vacuum.

  • @BOEHHO89
    @BOEHHO89 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I did see one of these at a gas station I used to deal with back in the late 60s .

  • @mickstafford456
    @mickstafford456 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My dad was a big Aeriel fan, and had both a square 4 and a red hunter. Once us kids were born, he got a Panther 120, 650 single, and a double adult sidecar. For a short time, he even had a job as sidecar salesman.

  • @rogerstone3068
    @rogerstone3068 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a 1952 model, first registered in 1951 because it had appeared on the stand at the Earls Court Mototcycle Show in 1951, with a sidecar attached (so slightly lower geared; it would only have reached 95mph or so, whereas the normal gearing would have given 103 to 105, IF you were unkind enough to flog it that hard.) I bought it from the second owner in 1968 or 69, and sold it when I was going to get married in 1971. I thought I had to settle down and give up the bike. Sold it for £70 (about $150 at 1971 exchange rates, I think.) I still have to avoid thinking about it too much or it gets really sad.
    On the 1952 model the rear two cylinder exhausts came forward through the engine and emerged from the front of the head already merged with the front cylinders, so you only saw the two pipes; and for mine, in the sidecar setup, those two exhausts were siamesed into one, which ran down the right hand side of the bike as a single exhaust and silencer. It made the sound all the more special; very even four-cylinder. It ran VERY smooth and it would pull evenly from 10mph in top gear. Tremendous torque, great to ride. Once you were moving, the weight was unimportant. The rear two cylinders did overheat, though. It really needed to be water-cooled. I thought the one in your video sounded a little rough, but perhaps that's just the difference of having two exhausts.
    The experience was probably closest, today, to a Triumph Rocket III. Nothing else in those days had 1,000cc engines. (Except for the big Vincents and the Brough; but those were just freaky.)

  • @glencavers1839
    @glencavers1839 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Matchless made the Silverhawk, an OHC V4 in the 30's.

  • @Austin_Soares
    @Austin_Soares 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The pipes almost looked like it clipped into the cylinder. Thanks for the close up to confirm that I'm not crazy.

  • @At.Aversa
    @At.Aversa 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's a nice looking bike and a interesting concept, also have to say that i am impressed that it started right away with just one kick. It shows the condition it's in which must be really good.

  • @dirkdiggler5164
    @dirkdiggler5164 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool to see you make a video about this😎. I didn't know Turner designed the Square 4. He sure had a long career. I think he left Triumph in the 1970's. It'd be awesome if somebody made a new replica of this bike with water cooling

  • @aumkar2
    @aumkar2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always loved the Square Four, would love to own one someday and an NH from the mid-50s!
    Was surprised to see this on your channel, Spite! More vintage stuff would be excellent!

  • @nickq204
    @nickq204 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lucas Industries. 😂 When I was in shop class, the teacher would always refer to Lucas as the “Reigning prince of darkness”. We had a kid in class with an old Land Rover which drove home the point. We practically rewired that entire car throughout the school year.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      There was one time when Lucas wasn't dark. On later British bikes where a zener diode was used to regulate alternator output, if the diode burned out at speed your lights would get amazingly bright for a moment then burn out from overcurrent. Guaranteed to put a pinch-mark in the seat if it happened at night on a tight blind curve. Scarier than that is Lucas Electrics eventually morphed into Lucas Aerospace who does the wiring on Airbus planes!

  • @moto_hero2809
    @moto_hero2809 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve always been into classic motorcycles, especially British ones. Never expected to see a square four on your channel 😅
    Love your channel!

  • @theantichrome9842
    @theantichrome9842 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the 90's there was a Square 4 in an old closed store front window in downtown Paris, AR. I drove past it weekly. It was freaking beautiful, I would often stop just to stare at it for a few minutes. There was a little 'for sale' sign on it... $5k IIRC.

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That would have been the deal of a lifetime if it ran

  • @RCp51
    @RCp51 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Elijah and Chris are absolute legends.

  • @rrrripbing
    @rrrripbing 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks to Elijah for such a great breakdown of this classic bike. I live in the UK and have never seen one in the flesh. It would be quite an experience to ride one, not sure I'd want to own one though due to limited parts availability.

  • @Wild-Wood
    @Wild-Wood 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was an awesome video man ❤️

    • @spitescorner
      @spitescorner  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, I had a lot of fun making it.

  • @tonyjourneyman1944
    @tonyjourneyman1944 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Also, the British Sunbeam motorcycles are worth a mention, I think. Be cool if that Ariel had actually square pistons!

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Sunbeams were the real Rolls-Royces of bikes, not the Squariels. They were touted for comfort and smoothness and their shaft drive being less messy than a chain. An inline twin parallel to, not perpindicular with, the frame and wheels. Advertising was toward the gentlemen riders not seeking the performance of a Vincent or commoners seeking a sporty bike. Even fewer Americans know of them than the Squariel.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Making and fitting the square piston (rings) (piston squares) never mind trying to get a seal for the oil and compression.

    • @tonyjourneyman1944
      @tonyjourneyman1944 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@chrishart8548 Yes, quite a few things might go wrong! 🙂

  • @jimt1240
    @jimt1240 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This one was great! Of course I'm a 72yr old guy who rode British bikes in the 60's and now ride a modern day RE. Don't beat me up too bad because I also ride a Ninja 400. Apples and Oranges.

  • @akripper6248
    @akripper6248 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool look at an old obscure bike. Nicely done.

  • @whalley1390
    @whalley1390 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wild! I'd be interested in seeing what else lime cycles has to say. Especially about vintage Japanese bikes

  • @mjb2kmn
    @mjb2kmn 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude is almost as weird as the bike, and I love them both.

  • @briancoupes2
    @briancoupes2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    See a few o dem at the local classic motorshow every couple o years, cool bikes

  • @P_RO_
    @P_RO_ 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You missed mentioning a couple brands which were popular there back in the day. Namely Norton and Velocette, both of who had a great racing history. Though it would be sacrilage to purists, I always thought the untimate stand-out bike would be a 4-pipe Squariel chopper with a radius-rod springer fork and a sprung-hub Triumph rear. Nobody would know what everything was so it would get a LOT of attention and questions.

  • @Qassu78
    @Qassu78 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Square for has been used later too. For example Suzuki RG500 was a square four two-stroke.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I imagine that had 4 separate crank cases being a 2 stroke. That's more impressive in itself.

  • @izzygonz1
    @izzygonz1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A video on the Cfmoto 450 mt would be cool

  • @NBZW
    @NBZW 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nothing can compare with the Square 4 sound, make sure the coil wire is tight 😳

  • @carltontweedle5724
    @carltontweedle5724 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A motorbike with mud guards about time, whoops sorry already sorted. What a old bike.

  • @punchbuggyyellow7097
    @punchbuggyyellow7097 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My friend has a Honda 110cc Super Cub with bigger drum brakes than that.
    It would have been interesting if they kept developing the square 4 engine into more modern times. I would love to know how a modern version stacks up against a V4, and we may have had some competition for the glut of P twins we have now. We did have the Suzuki RG500, but it's not the same.

  • @akiuliano
    @akiuliano 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a fun post. thx

  • @mattus1gig
    @mattus1gig 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very interesting 😁👍

  • @kylewyant7355
    @kylewyant7355 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A dealer near me has one for sale.

  • @Favk21
    @Favk21 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh, what a looker!

  • @glencavers1839
    @glencavers1839 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What about AJS, Matchless and Norton?

  • @KeViNMCMXXCIX
    @KeViNMCMXXCIX วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool bike for sure!

  • @scottsingleton2951
    @scottsingleton2951 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It wasn't so much learning what works as much as developing the technology

  • @johnh5906
    @johnh5906 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lucas the Prince of Darkness.

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There's a gorgeous restored one on marketplace right now for $18,000 in Ohio.

    • @chopsandarchie7015
      @chopsandarchie7015 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Blimey! I hope the owner doesn't ride around Ohio in the Winter on it, especially brakes that could be beaten in performance by chucking a 10lb mud weight off the back.

    • @John_Ridley
      @John_Ridley 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chopsandarchie7015 Nobody would ride a vintage bike that valuable in the winter. I park my 1980 Honda in the winter and ride the modern bike with ABS and TC.
      I do hope that the owner RIDES it though and doesn't just park it in a museum or living room.

  • @hvymax
    @hvymax วันที่ผ่านมา

    Harley's used to come with a Complimentary Pickup Truck so you could get it home. English vehicles were Blessed by Lucas Lord of Darkness!!!

  • @stephenbaron5681
    @stephenbaron5681 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Love the square four, not that hard to find if you want one and his pricing was high. Two, learn a little about British bikes, just because it shifts on the right and brakes on the left doesn’t make it wrong just different. Don’t ever forget NORTON! And last, the Ariel was never called the Rolls Royce of motorcycles, that was the Brough Superior which will now set you back $500K!

  • @patrickdoake6022
    @patrickdoake6022 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not uncommon in uk still a few about.

  • @jeffwatson4908
    @jeffwatson4908 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    To their credit the Britscwere innovative. Look too at Sunbeam and Wilkenson or Norton wankels. Sadly they were poor at refinement. Look at Lucas electrics or any carburetor brand.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Just about everything 'motorcycle' was invented by the Brits, often as far back as the 1920's. Hub-center steering, every fork, swingarm, and suspension configuration, 'positive stop' shifters like bikes have now where you click through the gears, shaft drive, anti-dive forks, and so much more. Some of it worked OK but was tied to bikes which otherwise weren't noteworthy, and product development doesn't seem to be in their language so the wonderful ideas faded away until recent times where everyone thinks they're new concepts...

    • @jeffwatson4908
      @jeffwatson4908 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@P_RO_ I toured the National Motorcycle Museum and was amazed at the innovations of various manufactures in the early years (pre 1930’s). The technical prowess was truly eye watering.

  • @CrimeVid
    @CrimeVid 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good bikes apart from rear cylinder overheating, the majority of them were sent to US in the late sixties so idiots could put the engines in chopped bikes.

  • @highlandrab19
    @highlandrab19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Funny how yanks say it Brrrrrrmeeeeeynhaaaym

  • @Focal_Paradox
    @Focal_Paradox 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bad British brakes!
    I'll have you know that if you are riding at a safe enough speed to drink tea from a china cup, those brakes are perfect! Harumph.

  • @brucecurtis6281
    @brucecurtis6281 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was not an English flag.
    It was a Union Jack. The same colonial banner the US got independence from.
    And don’t tar the Scots with the same brush, btw.

    • @firefighter1c57
      @firefighter1c57 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not Quite the same banner as colonial times. Northern Ireland Cross wasn't added until 1806 IIRC.

    • @P_RO_
      @P_RO_ 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No tarring indeed. Instead they had an oily rag you used to wipe out the flooded crankcase of your Scott Flying Squirrel two-stroke so you could ride it instead of push it. Another bike few average Americans know about.

  • @TheYorkie1954
    @TheYorkie1954 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    hmm! gear change and brake on the correct side until you Yanks made us change

  • @Paul-fv4no
    @Paul-fv4no 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Aaay yupp Stu baby!