Baldur's Gate Arcane Spell Guide Level 1

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  • Hi this is the first of 10 videos going over every arcane spell in the baldur's gate series.
    I play the enhanced edition with SCS on insane difficulty so this video is focused on that, but most of what I say applies to core rules unmodded as well.
    If you are curious about a particular spell I have them ordered here by tier alphabetically.
    S Tier spells
    Blindness 4:00
    Find Familiar 17:35
    Friends 20:45
    Magic Missile 28:55
    Shield 36:56
    Sleep 40:38
    A Tier spells
    Identify 24:48
    Protection From Petrification 33:21
    Spook 43:51
    B Tier Spells
    Charm Person 8:39
    Grease 22:33
    Larloch's Minor Drain 27:32
    C Tier Spells
    Armor 1:50
    Burning Hands 6:49
    Chromatic Orb 12:37
    Color Spray 15:14
    Protection From Evil 31:05
    Reflected Image 35:30
    RP Tier spells
    Chill Touch 10:46
    Infravision 26:01
    Shocking Grasp 38:50
    If you would like to see me play live, my twitch stream can be found here / davaeorn I stream daily starting at 10 am EST.
    Let me know what you think in the comments, God bless!

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  • @kodamaqq6143
    @kodamaqq6143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    S tier
    Blindness 4:02
    Find Familiar 17:36
    Magic Misslie 28:57
    Shield 36:57
    Sleep 40:40
    A tier
    Friends 20:27
    Identify 24:50
    Protection From Petrification 33:22
    Spook 43:54
    B tier
    Charm Person 8:41
    Grease 22:36
    Larloch's Minor Drain 27:33
    C tier
    Armor 1:51
    Burning Hands 6:51
    Chromatic Orb 12:40
    Color Spray 15:15
    Protection from Evil 31:07
    Reflected Image 35:31
    RP tier
    Chill Touch 10:50
    Infravision 26:06
    Shocking Grasp 38:53

  • @ashrasmun1
    @ashrasmun1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I'm not playing the game, but I just like listening to you. You are such a cozy speaker. Thanks man.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks for watching and commenting buddy

  • @pitchforker3304
    @pitchforker3304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Early in a magic user play through, I got jumped by an ankheg on my way to the Friendly Arms Inn. The only spell I had left was Color Spray (I wasn't sure what it even did): I desperately cast it and it knocked the ankheg out cold. I hacked at the monster with a dagger until it died. I've have a soft spot for Color Spray ever since. :-)

  • @Ibex_Moon
    @Ibex_Moon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I've been binging all things Baldurs Gate recently and your channel is the best. Would love to see your take on Priest spells.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thanks! I'm starting the divine series tomorrow.

    • @nforester
      @nforester 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Binging? You mean googling? 😂

  • @beerbasteddwarf4821
    @beerbasteddwarf4821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Your content is incredibly top tier. Just started a multiplayer playthrough of the series with a buddy of mine and its been really helpful to listen to your stuff while at work to refresh my memory. We were so obsessed with these games in high school and its cool to see the love still going strong for some of the best games ever made. Your hardcore insane playthroughs are also super interesting and hilariously fun to watch , def going to check out that SCS after our core run through the game. Thanks so much!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for watching and commenting friend Im glad you're enjoying it

  • @rev0lu7ion
    @rev0lu7ion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    26:01 Wow that's lame that EE made infravision useless. They should bring back being able to see enemies further in the fog. That actually sounds decent.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah it wasn't amazing but it was still kind of cool. Thanks for watching friend!

    • @internetomatic
      @internetomatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      in dragonspear they actually made it way, way more useful. there are points in the game where if you nobody in your party has it you can't complete certain quests or obtain certain items.

  • @Mrityugata
    @Mrityugata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    A few points in favor of Color Spray:
    1. It has a very pretty visual effect.
    2. The friendly fire aspect can be useful -- for pacifying confused/panicked party members, launching a surprise attack at currently non-hostile victims, or preventing people from alerting guards during burglaries (I used to use charm spells for this, but since in BG2 charm victims turn hostile anyway, might as well use color spray -- you can knock out a whole family with one spell!).
    3. It uses spell saving throw, as opposed to death in case of Sleep, which means it's not necessarily worse in that regard.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      1 is definitely big, 2 in my latest version (after this was made) it's no longer possible sadly guards spawn immediately now, 3 is also an excellent point it's just frustrating considering sleep comes with a yuge penalty on top of only affecting enemies. Thanks for commenting buddy!

  • @desen6486
    @desen6486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note that the description for Grease is actually a complete fucking lie. What it actually does is this:
    For 3 rounds + 1 round/level, every target in the AoE must make a save vs. spell at +2 every round. If they fail their save, their movement is slowed by ~90% for the next 3 rounds + 1 round/level.
    So there's no movement penalty if the enemy saves like the spell suggests, but it also means that if the enemies fail even ONCE, and you are a level 20 wizard, they'll be slow for 23 rounds. Even if it's the 23rd round the grease has been up and it expires that round, if they fail the save they are slowed for the next 23 rounds.
    An interesting "trick" of this is that you can cast grease few times while out of sight of an enemy, or on friendly NPCs you are about to fight, wait a few rounds for them to fail their save, then start combat and absolutely laugh at how nothing can move. Pretty cheesy but very effective. Works on Dragons and a lot of other high level enemies. Once made a mockery of Yaga Shura in the final battle with this.
    Edwin machinegunning out 10 of them under improved Alacrity is also cool. It's conjuration so he'll negate the saving throw bonus. As a way to just tie up random bullshit that gets summoned in on hard battles, it works. Things are going to fail saving throws when they have to make that many and you'll get way more use out of those level 1 spell slots than spamming magic missile.

  • @EpifanesEuergetes
    @EpifanesEuergetes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I have to vehemently disagree with your rating on Grease. I often cast it on +15 level and it's still useful. I rarely apply it alone, though. It's an integral ingredient of my Crowd Control Soup: a spoonful of Grease, a whiff of Stinking Cloud and a whole lotta Web (never bring only a single mage to a gunfight!). Add a Greater Malison (a spell I love so much I named a pen & paper character after it) and nothing moves except maybe a boss that you are free to dispose of while the lackeys wallow in lard, stench and dusty old cobweb. The slowing of movement of Grease is what keeps them in the area of effect of the other disabling spells. But I almost never play the first game so I start at level 7 and therefore have more spells to cast.
    This is a brilliant video. Liked and favourited. The fact that I've only watched the first of the series brings me joy: I have many yet to watch.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks I'm glad you enjoy it!

    • @Mrityugata
      @Mrityugata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nice to see someone defending the Grease spell. It's really great for empowering other lasting AOE spells. I'm feeling particularly fond of this spell right now, as I just finished Pathfinder: Kingmaker, where I've found Grease so amazing, I even named my kingdom after it :)

    • @cokane895
      @cokane895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. Grease has four advantages for BG1 at least. 1. Good alternative to Sleep as it works on undead. Good for some areas like High Hedge, end of Nashkel Mines, Valley of the Tombs. 2. Edwin (Conjurer) erases the saving throw penalty. 3. Quickest casting time makes it an excellent emergency situation cast to stop some advancing group. 4. Can be cast with your tanky NPC's in the AoE without the risk like Web. So it can be a bit more tactically flexible than Web even if it's not as strong.
      At the least it's a good enough spell to keep at least one use memorized, especially with Edwin, imo.

  • @gddub
    @gddub 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I got so much joy listening to you talk about how bad Shocking Grasp is :)

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol, thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @chrishendry1031
      @chrishendry1031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      "Shockingly Bad Grasp" should be a mod rename.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chrishendry1031 I agree, somebody make this happen.

  • @hippiasminor6264
    @hippiasminor6264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The professor is in! Much appreciated--this breakdown is very helpful.
    Tried playing the BG saga some years ago and fell off the boil when I figured that the magic system was beyond my reach (especially given other time constraints). I'm very happy to have comprehensive guides like this one to help decode everything.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome friend glad you enjoy it!

  • @Ligic
    @Ligic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Can you do an NPC party member tier list?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's a vid I want to make hopefully I'll be back to normal and can get back at it soon. Thanks for commenting and watching friend!

  • @gigglestomp5403
    @gigglestomp5403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ironically the spell tiers change a bit these days. I am running Legacy of Bhaal right now in BG1 and sleep basically starts out wothless because gibberlings have like 100 hitpoints. Find familiar ends up being super-s tier along with blind because the familiar gets the HP and thaco boost that the difficulty provides all creatures and actually becomes a tank. Shield becomes useless because if you hit get you die pretty much. Damaging spells like magic missile don't do enough damage to dent the bigger hp pools. Need to KO things with martials like archers while pets tank and stuff is blinded. It's interesting to say the least. The ferret familiar can also pickpocket the cloak in beregost given a few tries.
    Also spook seems to work pretty good soloing black pits. It works really well on the magess while you deal with everything else.

  • @mazdrpan4099
    @mazdrpan4099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Grease always slows down everyone in its AoE, this can be used along with web and stinking cloud to prolong exposure and increase chances for all 3 spells to apply. Spiders are only immune to web. Dual wielding+familiar can get you some good dpr on enemies affected by sleep. Later on cast invisibility on familiar and you can use it to scout whole areas and spot targets for spells and summons. This is further enhanced by certain spell dmg immunities, like Quasit is immune to all fire, ice, lightning so he can just sit there invisible and let you carpet bomb an area with perfect visibility from safety. So familiar has uses throughout the game and shouldnt be left in your stinky backpack all the time! ;)

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Find familiar, charm person, spell immunity, contingencies, and shapeshifting all have a TON of fun shit you can do with them, like its actually insane. I still stand by my original statement though that one misstep and you're down a con point, just makes me too paranoid to let him out of my stinky backpack. Besides, I'm always evil and that little bastard ate all the cookies I had in my knapsack, if he wanted to be let out he shouldn't have done that. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @MagicNash89
    @MagicNash89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the slowdown effect of the Grease, it doesnt have a save? I remember using this and the slowdown was great for dealing with early non-casters, non-archers, they move pretty slowly and they have this black muddy animation effect when they move near their legs😂

  • @ericroll
    @ericroll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very creative way of looking at spell casting. I never, NEVER, N-E-V-E-R, would have thought to cast Blindness on members in my own party! My blind thief setting traps while in combat. Amazing! Blindness is definitely one of my very favorite 1st level spells.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here buddy thanks for commenting!

  • @chefaahz
    @chefaahz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My cousin and I just started playing a, we're streaming on twitch and have used your videos to help us learn the game. Thank you for these videos, I had no idea how spells worked and you made it so simple to understand.

  • @Chloe-ei9iw
    @Chloe-ei9iw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    About to watch, I'm very impressed with the introduction and the description, awesome to have all the timestamps for reference.

    • @Chloe-ei9iw
      @Chloe-ei9iw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No mention of glitterdust which to my understanding is blindness but aoe?

    • @Chloe-ei9iw
      @Chloe-ei9iw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh i didn't realise level 1 spells

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah just one, two and three are up now though. Thanks for watching friend!

  • @TheParappa
    @TheParappa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chromatic Orb is pretty good in Icewind Dale 2, but in BG... yeah, not my first choice, even tho it looks pretty.

  • @Gnoll-1337
    @Gnoll-1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your content! Can’t wait for overviews of classes/priest spells.
    I do have to disagree with chromatic orb however. In my last full play through I was playing on LOB mode and it was basically required to fully debuff saving throws & MR for anything to stick. Because of that I ended up finding chromatic orb to be extremely useful.
    I ended up 1 shotting serval bossed, including Firkraag and found it tended to one shot about 30% of the time.
    Not sure if it also influenced the spell’s likelyhood I’d success but the successes also usually came from Neera combined with a +level spell roll.
    Not saying it should be S tier but I’d say A or B at least

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for commenting friend! Chromatic orb shouldn't change with a + level roll unless neera is sub 12, tho there are other surges that make the effect more likely to go off. Firkraags SvS is 6 so he cannot fail to save unless you fully debuff (doom malison lower resist), and even if you do it's 75% chance of failure since chromatic orb buffs their saves by +6. In a no save no reload run I just think there are better spells to be casting than throwing orb after orb and praying for the stars to align tbh. It wasn't uncommon for me to imp alacrity and unleash my whole level 1 spellbook of CO on something and watch it save everytime, so my opinion of it is pretty low. If it wasnt for the + save modifier I think it would be S tier, but with it, I'd rather just cast something else, hence the C tier rating. To each his own though, thanks for watching!

    • @Gnoll-1337
      @Gnoll-1337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Davaeorn nope makes perfect sense in no save no reload

  • @TheSamuraiGoomba
    @TheSamuraiGoomba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm OCD about unidentified items, so I have to take Identify every time. I also have an unofficial rule for myself that I rarely equip any item unless I have identified it first, even if I know what the item is. Even if you don't roleplay with weird rules, Identify is pretty essential for maps like Durlag's Tower, where you can't reach an Identify vendor anywhere. I think the nearest vendor that can identify items is in Beregost or the Temple.

  • @xianox8
    @xianox8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey found your channel when I'm relearning Baldur's Gate after what feels like a 20 year break. These videos are very helpful! Thanks!

  • @NGill-pt1vr
    @NGill-pt1vr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video series. Can't say enough good things about it.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats what im saying man

  • @Uutalo
    @Uutalo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude just started getting in to baldur’s gate. Your content is incredible man! You’ve got great cadence when you go through things and really entertaining honestly.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy glad you enjoy it.

  • @NdranC
    @NdranC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope you are still planing to do the other levels. I personally would love to hear more detailed ramblings on every aspect of baldur's gate (maybe even other rpgs).

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I too look forward to rambling, thanks for commenting friend.

  • @guardianofretro
    @guardianofretro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagreed a bit on the grease spell. It is very useful in combo with web and acid cloud. Mainly I always use them in combo.

  • @atempestrages5059
    @atempestrages5059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Davaeorn, I find Grease is great to couple with Web. Usually I can't afford to drop two Webs all the time, so I shoot a Grease on top of a single Web.
    Even on its own Grease can save your life during some of the nastier ambushes.

  • @NoNamesWereAvail
    @NoNamesWereAvail 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got your videos in TH-cam suggestions, will be watching them and am curious as what you have to say about the various spells. I've done a couple of BG1 playthroughs (some from 20+ years ago), then got the EE versions a few years ago, 2 BG2 playthroughs, 1 SoD, 1 IWD, all on Core Rules. Using SCS (I set it on Tactical for now) for the first time now for the whole series (BG1/SoD/BG2/ToB). Despite all those playthroughs, there are still many spells and combos that I've never used. Just a quick opinion about your rating of the lvl 1 "Armor" spell, I think your C tier rating might be slightly influenced by the fact that you focus on it as if it was to be a Mage, Sorcerer or Dual/Multi mage? Out of my 5 premade characters (currently lvl 7 for most of them), one of the is a Blade and that Armor spell lasting 9h is quite nice since she can't use robes and if I put on armor, she can't cast anymore. She also has very few spells she can cast per level at the moment so Armor that doesn't have to be refreshed is decent for now for early/mid game (once I get the mail that lets me cast from Dorn's quest, I guess I won't use it anymore). Roughly 9h of videos is a lot but should be quite interesting and I'm sure I've got a lot to learn from them :) . I've got a feeling that I might change up some of my Sorcerer current spells (making a new one and switching him with the single and multiplayer saves) and change my mind about some of the future spells I'll be taking this time around or in which order, certainly is great that you play it with SCS on hardest difficulty as it will all be relevant to my playthrough and future ones. Only 5mins in and already realizing that I severely underestimated Blindness as I never knew it could be good vs casters too.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      glad you're enjoying them friend! The problem with armor is it gives a small bonus, robes of the archmagi makes it useless for anything but a bard, and bards will be better off wearing actual armor since their spell progression is so wonky. Most importantly tho is shield is just so much damn better. Spell slots are limited and having armor waste a spell slot that shares with shield (even tho shield doesn't last as long) it just seems like a waste to me. To each his own tho!

  • @VisonsofFalseTruths
    @VisonsofFalseTruths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a shame you can’t use Grease in BG the way I use it in tabletop D&D. Working in a kitchen I know one thing about grease: it is VERY flammable. Instant flaming oil trap, just add torches.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first thing I did with fireball was cast it on grease because I legitimately thought something would happen as a kid. I was disappointed sadly.

    • @VisonsofFalseTruths
      @VisonsofFalseTruths 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Davaeornlol Me and my groups have it act as a flask of oil. A creature that fails the save gets covered in grease and takes an additional 5 damage when they take fire damage, and the entire area burns for 2 rounds, dealing 5 damage to any creature that enters the area or ends its turn there. After two rounds the grease is consumed and the spell effect ends.

  • @WhenTheCrowdsAreGone
    @WhenTheCrowdsAreGone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aww man, i'm glad i just found your channel. Been over a few weeks i have got myself involved with Baldur's Gate for the first time and even though -OMG there is so much to learn- it seriously feels like it's gonna be an amazing journey. This video will be reaaaaally useful along my journey so thank you!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad you're enjoying it buddy! Hope you have some fun with it and thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @domeplsffs
      @domeplsffs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you telling me, you're actually playing the BG Saga for the first time? Man, i envy you so much! To this day i never played a video game that keeps me coming back every few years after having played it throughout my whole childhood. The first vanilla release was so insanely hard due to bug running rampant and the localisation being so bad it actively confused players, like me who haven't had a clue about AD&D back then - i was 6 :D Anyways, enough rambling. Good day to you and lots of fun with BG

    • @WhenTheCrowdsAreGone
      @WhenTheCrowdsAreGone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@domeplsffs Yep I am! Currently on a small break due to all the homework from university but still! Damn at age of 6 huh? What a good childhood that must have been -I envy that- now that I am actually experiencing the game myself. I'm pretty new to the D&D mechanics but putting the extra effort to learn is 100% worth. I'm just glad I ran into BG games when they were on a sale on steam. Thanks and good day to you too !

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More comments, after checking the documentation on SCS.
    Chromatic Orb's ridiculous +6 bonus to target's save has been un-nerfed, according to latest documentation on SCS. It doesn't do as much, in comparison to original, but that joke of a save bonus is gone. 😮
    Color Spray now affects enemies lower level than you. This makes it S tier, because as long as you're not facing left or right on the isometric viewpoint, cast Color Spray on YOURSELF for 360 degrees coverage. Minor Globe to protect yourself. 😮
    Larloch's Drain has been improved. Now Larloch's and Chromatic Orbs are viable replacements for Magic Missile, because every single mage in SCS uses Shield, and Mirror Image.
    Btw, if you watch CoreDump's videos on his sorcerer run throughs, you'll see the problem with Spirit Armor. Fail the save, and your Contingencies and Chain Contingencies will trigger when Spirit Armor runs out. 😂🤣😳 Shield doesn't have this problem, and it also blocks Mordenkainen's Force Missiles, which despite their nerf, are really nasty. 😮
    SCS has also changed Shocking Touch. You no longer need to execute a successful hit to trigger. Not sure if you still get the strength bonus, but it should still go through Mantle, and I think Improved Mantle. 😮

  • @malinor5329
    @malinor5329 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that you do not do the calculation to shocking grasp correctly. The spell is useless for pure mages. But a fm can use it well. A 7/7 fm can cast it before the battle and it is comparable to normal attack, but better. For example with 19 str and varscona the damage is 1d8+3+7+2 (proficiency) = 16,5 on average. The respective shocking grasp does 1d8+7+1d2+7 = 20 on average. Moreover the thac0 of the shocking grasp is better, because you get +4 bonus from touch attack type.
    Later with flail of the ages your damage is 1d6+7+2 (proficiency) + str bonus. The respective shocking grasp damage is for eg 15/15 fm 1d8+15+1d2+str bonus.

  • @saytr4
    @saytr4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Opened up BG today. ITS BEEN UPDATED!
    Amongst other things, Burning Hands is an area effect like it should be. Only 5' of course, but it will hit the whole row of guys in front of you. I like it.

  • @edwardmoore988
    @edwardmoore988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your work. I was recently replaying BG1 EE and I noticed that Larloch's Drain has been modified so that it now stacks with itself. That's still not amazing... but it can help keep some squishy mages alive with temporary extra HP.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely, thanks for commenting friend!

  • @saytr4
    @saytr4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Familiar can pickpocket Ankheg shells from you, up to 4 (I think). They don't count toward your weight limit.
    If I solo sometimes I go LN so I can take the Ferret. He is the only familiar with a Detect Traps button AND a Pickpocket button. I can go into NearInfinity and increase his Detect Traps and.. because he has the PP button.. I can increase his Open Locks too.
    Now I can Disable Traps and Open Locks without a Thief.. and a minimum of cheating.

  • @ericlaperle1978
    @ericlaperle1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Charm; you explained it in such a way that compels one to think about how under exploited the game really is RPG side. I even thought about doing another run through as an enchanter. Unfortunately, I'm too much of a completionist to do that especially if you're already in a run through. This time F/M/T. I know, ''How original?'' Right?

  • @piotrka2842
    @piotrka2842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blindness is INSANE. This and invisibility can take you thru 90% of bg1.
    Also it goes off with -2 save penalty if cast by illusionist (gnomes rule!)
    I can easily disable Davaeorn with it. He just walks thru his rooms pointlessly...

  • @304enjoyer3
    @304enjoyer3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hah I always fill my lvl 1 spellslots with chromatic orbs, hit em with malison and they're dead. How to kill any dragon 101 - pierce magic or whatever -> lower resistance -> greater malison+doom -> chromatic orb sequencer. 3 rounds and Firkraag is ded🤣

  • @JspoonG
    @JspoonG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chromatic Orb > Larloch, at least it gets better with level :P. I would put Chromatic Orb, Protection from evil and Color Spray higher

  • @mbalazs3544
    @mbalazs3544 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well made list i agree most thing you say, wow freind's i learned what its good for nice :D (i have invoker mages as main) newer would had guessed this use :D thx (yes my wizard for RP has 18 ch)

  • @wingedhussar2909
    @wingedhussar2909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sleep and Command trivializes BG1 and that's why people have to mod it to make it harder.

  • @Brandor667
    @Brandor667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm on my very first play through on normal, and I petrified the Otiyugh in Firkraag's dungeon with Chromatic Orb lol

  • @MintyCow101
    @MintyCow101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started playing the game for the first time ever, never played anything similar to D&D except maybe Dragon Age Origins. I love magic but i dont know what spells would be good to start with for my first Playthrough. 😊

  • @jeremyrice1463
    @jeremyrice1463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i recently just picked up the game always wanted to get into it with my friend who absolutley adores this game. i jumoed into bg2 and wasnt to impressed, but BG EE sets the tone!!! love the game love these series of videos. liked subscribed

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks buddy sorry I missed your comment and didn't respond right away youtubes algorithm for comments confuses the hell out of me. God bless you friend!

  • @tonnysndergaard9732
    @tonnysndergaard9732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, this series is dope!
    Like others have said, I hope you’ll put out more of these (sorcerer picks, Devine spells, class/kit rundown, etc.). Also, a breakdown of what you’ve changed with mods would be nice (I’ve never used SCS myself, so I’m not sure how cumbersome this would be).
    Subscribed for sure

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was working on divine casting before I got sick, it will be coming soon as well as sorc picks and class rundowns, god bless!

  • @MichaelRygaard
    @MichaelRygaard ปีที่แล้ว

    Level 1 - th-cam.com/video/jxUBLrWzK30/w-d-xo.html
    Level 2 - th-cam.com/video/rb49jQYeI1s/w-d-xo.html
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    Level 8 - th-cam.com/video/rv1F0H52eGA/w-d-xo.html
    Thank you for the guides !!!

  • @NoahLinden
    @NoahLinden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chromatic orb is pretty good for killing trolls after you reach 12th level.

  • @dirkgoodman4282
    @dirkgoodman4282 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi please upload ur twitch playthoughs. I've just started watch ur long plays and an craving more

  • @robertcampbell6349
    @robertcampbell6349 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shocking Grasp is D&D's equivalent to a hand buzzer.

  • @mateuszpk5511
    @mateuszpk5511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh man you are bossing it with those BG guides! been looking for you for a while!

  • @H0VA
    @H0VA ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this list kind of bad for Non-SCS runs though? I remember Web being S tier in BG1 or something.

  • @aylictal
    @aylictal ปีที่แล้ว

    looking back it is crazy how big of a difference grease is in comparing baldurs gate to pathfinder. in pathfinder, grease is beyond S tier, and the best tier1 spell there is for arcane magic.

  • @derrickbonsell
    @derrickbonsell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Friends. Level 1 spell. +6 charisma. 2e really was something else.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Truly a magical time.

    • @okeybuckeye524
      @okeybuckeye524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In 2e it really didn't modify much...that said I miss the diversity of 2e.

  • @HK-bi3ye
    @HK-bi3ye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if you'll read this or maybe it's not that useful, but I charm civilians and send them against mages so they use their spells.

  • @ewok40k
    @ewok40k 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sleep is basically "I win" button for most low level mobs
    Xan makes it even more broken with his enchanter bonus to enemy saving throws.
    Ring of double level 1 spells makes it even more broken.

  • @ImagesOfAustin
    @ImagesOfAustin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the better bhaalspawn power for a shapeshifter: Vampiric touch or draw upon holy might? I wasn't sure if DUHM actually works since the str and dex is set by the transform ability.

  • @jamiee3409
    @jamiee3409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In reference to Charm person, I find it hilarious you don't give the literal RP spell higher than RP tier.

  • @dollarsex9020
    @dollarsex9020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    chill touch though.. if you're a F/M or bard it gets bonus from clubs proficiency ... and you can dualwield with an offhand weapon and you won't get any dual wield penalty. The lvl 1 mage with shield, chill touch and extra HP from familiar is actually a melee beast

  • @DonutSquig
    @DonutSquig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos got me to reinstall. Don't do evil parties and crazy hard ore shenanigans, but it's been a blast enjoying a game I used to play 20 years ago and remembering all the good stuff. Much love

  • @seasaltsky
    @seasaltsky ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no reason to pick identify as one of your starting spells, due to being able to take the scroll you're supposed to give to that mage in the tavern and just use it on yourself

  • @Calico_Crow
    @Calico_Crow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just saw your post on Reddit, and I'm home sick today so you've saved my life a little bit
    Also this is amazing

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      God bless friend, thanks for watching!

  • @frankschoolderman6786
    @frankschoolderman6786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    blindless to your own thief in combat, go stealth and set traps - brilliant!

  • @NonExclusive6669
    @NonExclusive6669 ปีที่แล้ว

    There a way to permanently blind your bounty hunter? So can spam traps:)

  • @squashedeyeball
    @squashedeyeball 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is epic dava!!
    It was never done to this extant before: In the history of BG, no one ever made a detailed review on each and every spell, including all of it's uses.
    Great delivery man!
    Can't wait to hear about "death spell" ;) That and "mm". Tanks Nalia all day ;)
    Bill Cosby:
    "Lo there do I see my vici.
    Lo there do I see my Edwin and my HD and my Aerie.
    Lo there do I see the portraits of my party, back to chapter 2.
    Lo, they do annoy me, they bid me to heal them so they won't die permanently, as they are struck by insanity enemies, where only dava would travel".

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My man eyeball

    • @squashedeyeball
      @squashedeyeball 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Davaeorn
      Cheers dava! Yes, I'm like a beholder, different kinds of eyeballs lol I hope you're doing great man. I'll try to catch the stream when I get back from work.

  • @stevenkmiller
    @stevenkmiller ปีที่แล้ว

    So since it's all based on the same set of rules, does the info in these spell guides hold true for Icewind Dale also?

  • @el9169
    @el9169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wanted you to know, I was fighting a dragon my first time through the game, and I ran out of spells except chromatic orb. So I one shot the dragon with chromatic orb, and now I never run a mage without it

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hear that a lot tbh! I still stand by my placement tho, thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @el9169
      @el9169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Davaeornlol Of course! But objectively speaking it sucks

  • @robertcampbell6349
    @robertcampbell6349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magic Missile is great when you load two in a minor sequencer. Or pair MM with Melf's Acid Arrow to disrupt spell casters.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately most enemies in our game will be using minor globe :(

  • @EMB3D
    @EMB3D ปีที่แล้ว

    note on magic missile: best spell to nullify an mirror imaged of an enemy mage

  • @thenewaeon
    @thenewaeon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Decided to play BG 1 for the very first time after finishing BG 3. I say to myself, "I'll take Chromatic Orb. That was decent in BG 3. I don't even need to read the spell description." How wrong I was. Should have consulted the wise and benevolent Davaeorn first. Magic Missile and Sleep for life! 😂

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right its so good in bg3 what happened

  • @hm09235nd
    @hm09235nd ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny how diviner can’t use the FIND spell

  • @zenituragaming5043
    @zenituragaming5043 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a spell called armor of faith for clerics in this game? where can it found?

  • @TheParappa
    @TheParappa ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your guides and have them on autoplay during work a lot.
    One thing I want to add to "Find Familiar": the neutral ones can be pretty useful in BG1 because they have thieving abilities. So if you plan to play solo as a mage or if you just don't have thief on your team, pick the true neutral alignment, get the rabbit and the rabbit will find and disarm traps for you. The only downside is the placement of the scroll, which you only obtain after the Nashkell mines.

  • @DumpStatWisdom
    @DumpStatWisdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Recently bought Baldur's Gate EE and wanted to start a mage. I thought it will be pretty easy after playing Pillars of Eternity but damn is this game confusing for a newbie. Your video just saved me hours of research. Now I am a little less confused :P

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy to help friend hope you enjoy it and thanks for commenting!

  • @instinct922
    @instinct922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are you always playing evil, and posting helpful videos at the same time?
    Good breakdown btw

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you enjoyed it! I just find playing evil more flexible than good, there are too many times where sometimes somebody needs an ass whoopin and you can't give it to them when you're good you know what i'm saying? Thanks for watching friend!

  • @kingauzdejczyk7323
    @kingauzdejczyk7323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sleep is total crap on Legacy of Baal diff, you cant suscessfully use IT even on tasloi or xvart. In other hand familiar is so useful because of HP and petrify immune

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird I thought I replied to this. Yeah LoB was really poorly done so I never play it. The SCS components that are legacy of bhaal difficulty (HLA's for wizards etc etc) we DO use, every SCS component is maxxed, but I play on insane difficulty. LoB breaks immersion too hard and it doesn't make the game hard just take longer. Wizards throw a few spells at you then spend an HOUR chasing after you with a quarterstaff because they have 100 hp while somebody slowly but surely ranges them down. In SoA and ToB it might be fun but even then I feel like its inevitable that wizards will run out of spells LONG before HP. So boring.

  • @grueti21
    @grueti21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what about Nahal's Reckless Dweomer?

  • @sergeybitkov8294
    @sergeybitkov8294 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would speculate, that Larloch's minor drain is not that bad, or mediocre in that case. I use it almost every playthrough on my mages.
    As you said, larloch's the quickest one, so it is most reliable interrupt early in the game for some mages (Tarnesh, and Thespian Extraordinary, I'm looking at you).
    And infravision gets somewhat better in SOD, because if you don't have source of infra in your party (potion, spell or race), it would be impossible to reach certain optional areas, and solve certain quests.
    Other analysis is just great, you did a fine job making game's learning curve more forgiving for newcommers. thx for the video.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I try to pretend SoD doesn't actually exist, but yeah larlochs is nice for interrupts, problem is 90% of mages have mirror image up too, so it's really hard for it to actually do it's job. If you run multiple mages though (which I always do) it's not to hard to get around. Thanks for watching and commenting friend God bless.

  • @canoestheone570
    @canoestheone570 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video, thanks man😁

  • @grinningtaverngaming395
    @grinningtaverngaming395 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok Dav that’s it. I’ve had enough. I’m rolling up a gnome fighter/illusionist. I’m putting all my points into Dex Con and Int. I’m going to march my PC right into the faces of the enemies and spam burning hands and other lame lvl 1 spells. Garrick will be nearby to cast strength on the PC and I’m going to have an absolute blast.
    Love your content man.
    I started playing BG and BG2 again cos of you. Cheers. 💛

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      God bless frend hope you enjoy it!

  • @TeamSansha
    @TeamSansha 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This video is so amazing. So much information! Thanks for the upload!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! More to come soon i hope :)

    • @squashedeyeball
      @squashedeyeball 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TeamSansha
      Be sure to check history in the making in his twitch channel, Davaeronlol. The only insane difficult scs no reloads run.He never quits, he never gives up... You'll find oceans of BG knowledge on these *daily* streams.

    • @TeamSansha
      @TeamSansha 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just fired up BG:EE again and logged like 8 hours on a flight. You inspired me to pick up this game again and give it few more rounds.

    • @TeamSansha
      @TeamSansha 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @WingedMad
    @WingedMad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm on my sixth saga playthrough and these videos are still so much help. Thanks!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like them friend thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @pcgamingeconomico3057
    @pcgamingeconomico3057 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty vm!
    i always wanted to play BG .
    i own the disks and a retro pc , and wanted to try this game but i had my but handed to me on hardcore.
    i think i will hear all your videos to learn this game.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting friend I would definitely recommend playing without saving once you get the hang of the game it makes it much more fun. Good luck and god bless!

  • @blanchiplanchi
    @blanchiplanchi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I killed a dragon (BG2 red dragon cannot spell the name F.... Something) with a chromatic orb!!!! That was my luckiest shot in life, used up all my luck and now everything in my life sucks!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RIP Luck. Thanks for commenting and watching friend!

  • @ughsigh7883
    @ughsigh7883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i actually used mage protection from evil in BG2. when i was fighting the Lich that guards daystar SCS loaded him up with a shitton of summon fiend and dispells and two timestops and i wanted to fight him early. The problem was that if i enter the room with my cleric he will get dispelled and torn to shreds by cornugons like instantly. So i put a minor sequencer with mirror image and protection from evil on my fighter mage in case he got dispelled and...well he didnt get dispelled so idk if it would have been useful but in theory it should be, right?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In SCS protection from evil does nothing to demons and liches. Well it still does what it says, but it, like protection from undead (which used to make liches ignore you) doesn't do that crap anymore. Demons will still attack you.

    • @exantiuse497
      @exantiuse497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Davaeorn It depends on the installation (or my game is just broken). I have SCS installed and lich-summoned demons don't attack me if I have protection from evil up, they just stand around or attack the other creatures the lich summons (although the lich no longer attacks its own demon like in vanilla). I run SCS with hardcore settings instead of insane though, IDK if that affects it

  • @ThePaciorr
    @ThePaciorr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Life saving content. I bought both BG games because I heard so much good about them but they are quite complicated for a new player so your videos really helped me a lot!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you like them!

  • @Yaetora
    @Yaetora 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been playing this game since 98 and I've still learned a lot. Subscribed :)

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting friend.

  • @bobbybandz2259
    @bobbybandz2259 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content! I've watched all of the entire series. Very helpful. Are you ever going to do this for the divine spells as it would be very beneficial to a lot of people and get some views!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and soon! thanks for commenting friend!

  • @dawnknight1748
    @dawnknight1748 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    chromatic orb is actually...pretty handy if you are avenger. not that it does any good damage or I expect it to do much shit but hey, chances are when you are fighting a troll as a druid, you would have your chromatic orb doing "ACID" damage. which kills trolls once they are down.
    Plus what would you fill your spell-caster druid spells with for level 1 anyways *shrug* this shit is kinda useful to think what magic stone does lol.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SCS adding IWD spells helps a lot for sure.

  • @ToTheNines87368
    @ToTheNines87368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched this series once, but already forgot. Guess I’m gonna have to watch it again lol. So many god damn spells.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you're enjoying the game buddy thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @briannsharonpinktransport7552
    @briannsharonpinktransport7552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your wrong about reflected image for one reason, as I recall it stacks with mirror image so that each mirror image has a reflected image as well. (I think) been awhile since I played. I think it's time for another run through. I love your channel btw.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's possible, I hate prebuffing so much as it is sometimes i dont even MI >< Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @zimmicks3170
    @zimmicks3170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of these School designations are mystifying to me - both Armor AND Shield (which are both protection spells) are not designated as Abjuration (which is a school of Protection). Instead they are Conjuration and Evocation? Really?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure the point was at the time of making the spells and associated schools was to give specialist mages at least some manner of protecting themselves even if it wasn't as good as others. At the time, specialist mages lost access to not one but TWO schools of magic. But I'm not an expert so what do I know XD

  • @zeckul
    @zeckul 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Davaeorn, I was intrigued with what you said about Infravision doing something in the original BG1 and tried it on the GoG version (TotSC). It didn't seem to do anything, both on characters with innate infravision or the spell. I could not see enemies in the fog of war, either in-game or on the map, wheter the map was explored or not. Was this on BG pre-TotSC?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya the original original no tales, tales changed quite a few things surprisingly. Basically you would see red circles in the fog of war with infravision, which were obviously enemies.

  • @nathannolen7377
    @nathannolen7377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you recommend Sleep for a Dragon Disciple for the early power, even though it may not be of much use in BG2 and ToB?
    Your guides have been a huge help and very entertaining as I have been getting back into the game on Nintendo Switch! Looking forward to more so keep up the good work!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx buddy I take sleep all the time on my sorc it's too good to pass up and most of level 1 is trash anyways. I almost always take shield sleep mm and pfp, last slot is usually blind.

    • @dangr123
      @dangr123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Davaeornlol is PFP really a good idea? I kinda get it for when you're doing your playthroughs but what if I'm just playing a normal game? I seem to remember thinking that you wanted to find all your companions asap because if you level up a lot without them they level up on their own to match your level... and they don't do so optimally. Is this an outdated idea?

  • @crislouise2509
    @crislouise2509 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe if monk was a good class and you could multi/duel class with mage then those touch spells might be useful.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If only.

  • @Gorgen2k
    @Gorgen2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Def love friends, my main npc is a fighter but if you give your mage the 18 chr ring and cast friends they have 24 chr and make that mage the leader and then talk to npcs is nice trick.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya its spicy thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @philsrada
    @philsrada 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for kind explanation! It is very educational and entertaining.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @Bavvo69
    @Bavvo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, Infravision used to be useful? I had no idea, even though I had the original game. Why was it nerfed?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't the slightest idea tbh. And to be fair it wasn't AMAZING it just let you see auras in the fog of war before they could see you.

  • @helgijacobsen1497
    @helgijacobsen1497 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    maby the best coolest game i ever playd remember mprilla ai script all bg players are liars his script is so slow from 2004 not even my pc from 2015 can not take it shutter and lagging

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buddy you took the words right out of my mouth thanks for watching and commenting

  • @stevelenores5637
    @stevelenores5637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm having BG1/BG2 PS4 delivered today from Amazon (release date delivery). This will be the first time I've played it since I got the original 9 disc set for BG back in the late 1990s. So far this video series is the most informative on playing the mage I've found and will be viewing them today until the UPS guy drops the package off at my door.

    • @stevelenores5637
      @stevelenores5637 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it 6 discs, but seemed like 9 since you had to swap them out constantly.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah hope you have a blast, thanks for watching and commenting buddy.

  • @scottbartholomew4956
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