Actually BROKEN?! YUN JIN vs BENNETT Damage Buff Test C0 - C3 Comparison | Genshin Impact 2.4
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is Yun Jin's Normal Attack damage buff actually better than Bennett's ATK buff? In this video, I tested different Yun Jin constellations at C0, C2, C3 against a C6 Bennett with Yoimiya, Fischl, and Noelle's Normal Attacks to see who's the best Normal Attack buffer. #YunJin #Bennett #GenshinImpact
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0:00 - Intro
1:03 - Bennett & Yun Jin Builds
2:40 - Yoimiya + C0 Yun Jin
3:58 - Fischl + C0 Yun Jin
4:47 - Noelle + C0 Yun Jin
5:29 - C2 Yun Jin
6:18 - C3 Yun Jin
7:01 - Conclusion
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Bennett's C6 DOES buff Pyro DMG for all users, not just Melee. The description of his C6 was just poorly worded. 3:01 - I put this clip right here to prove it. So even bow users and catalyst users will receive the 15% Pyro DMG buff. :D
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yun jin might have outstripped bennet for yoimiya if she had 4 different elements on her team to make up for bennet's pyro buff!
Bennet c6 pyro buff AND pyro resonance is what has helped him be competitive in buffing yoimiya against yunjin but needless to say yunjin essentially replaces him and depending on the situation allows players to plug in a shielder instead or a different healer, etc...
What about Childe + Yun jin? Is she better than bennett?
@@kiviger7507 yep! she can make him do main dps damage with his skill active. he has very low attk scaling so bennet doesnt do much for him
I want to ask would yunjin or xinqiu be better for my yoimiya
the best thing about yunjin is that she allows you to use bennett on the other team while using yoimiya because her buff is comparable
Doing similar buffing without using Noblesse nor Pyro resonance is no small feat.
Doesn't buff any supports though so if you're using Beidou or Fischl with Yoimiya you will lose a large chunk of damage
@@AQWdraconian yea it depends on ur team. i use yoi + kazuha + benny + xingqiu so benny only buffs my yoimiya since xingqiu cant snapshot anyway (kazu full em build so atk buff doesnt matter)
@@Vizible21 how is saying yunjin is good equal to ignoring others? these statements can coexist
@@rust8995 If u have Xinqiu free then Xinqiu is still better than Yunjin in monopyro Yoimiya, bcs Xinqiu can vaporize Yoimiya and Xiangling at the same time.
I think there's also something to be said about the upside Yun Jin's buff has by virtue of being attached to the character rather than a circle on the ground. The benefit of allowing for more flexible position while still maintaining the buff is hard to put a numerical value on, but it's still there. Especially when as of late we've gotten more and more enemies that like to move around or reposition themselves.
The addition of Yun Jin to my team has made me a very, very happy Yoimiya player.
As a Yoimiya main, the best thing Yun Jin brings to the table is that now I have a viable substitute for Benny, so I can use him in my second team!
Or foraximum destruction, combine yunjin, benny. And xingqiu.
@@themagikconk does this actually work? I mean I'm building my Yujin and yet I haven't seen a big dmg upgrade on using both her and bennett
What about healing???
@@PureGaming007 I usually run Yoimiya with Zhongli as well, so there's no need for a healer
How does yun jin compare to bennet anyway? Bennet gives atk while yun jin just increases normal attack damage, so how are they even comparable, like yun jin just cannot fix a lower atk
Man WHY HASNT ANYBODY TESTED HER ON RAZOR YET! He’s arguably the most normal atk focused 4-star in the game.
EDIT: Oh wait I just realize Sevy can’t test him out since her Bennett is C6. Darn.
Isnt that also Eula?
Brooo I’ve been asking the same thing!!!!
@@hntr5495 4*
@@hntr5495 Ehhhh. Like someone else said she’s a 5-star, and she’s actually more ult focused than normal atk focused. Someone like Yoimiya has a much higher importance on normal atks than Eula (although Eula’s normals still hit hard).
@@hntr5495 No, Eula damage comes way more from her burst than her AA that is way Sea Lord Claymore is her best F2P weapon and even her talent priority is Q>AA>E
I want her C3 but I’m F2P and don’t want to risk ruining my chances for Ganyu. Maybe next time
Don't worry, yunjin is a 4 star, so definitely we can have her constellations anytime in any banner if we are lucky enough that she pops up.
You can get her for free in the coming event
I feel you
Smart choice
You might be waiting for quite some time for that one. Sumeru is around the corner. More characters will be getting added.
It's a huge factor that the buff moves with you as well.
I love how every single constellation boost her support capacity even c4 gives her more defense allowing for more scaling with her ult
I wanted to get at least c2 for Yunjin but I got too lucky and got Shenhe and Mona in 18 pulls after getting Itto, now I am guaranteed for Zhongli and I don't wanna risk the guaranteed pity. I guess I'll try to get her constillations in future reruns.
Suffering from success
Get a con from Lantern Rite!
@@chelseakuwahara2197 I will
I loss 50/50 shenhe to diluc lmao. But im gonna skip zhongli and wait for kazuha.
Can you explain what did you mean by guaranteed pity? Shouldn't you have 80 more pulls to get Zhongli after pulling a 5-star character?
I once used Yun Jin as a trial character in "A Study in Potions" event and I really noticed my Razor's damage was boosted a lot. Although I prefer him with my C3 Bennett, If I ever managed to get Yun Jin in the Lantern Rite for free, I would probably gonna test Razor out with both Bennett and Yun Jin with a cryo character as the last slot needed for superconduct (either Kaeya or Diona could do the trick as both can be batteries and can apply cryo decently, or Qiqi if the enemies have corrosion).
Hye Razor main 👊🏻
@@koiex7970 not a Razor Main but I love using him tho. I'm a Qiqi Main actually.
Well lucky u the event is coming soon😅
Something else to note about Fischl is that her optimal (but very technical) normal attack combo is 2NARR (two normal attacks and quickly going in and out of aimed shot mode). Because the first two normal attacks have low damage multipliers, the actual DPS disparity between Bennett and Yun Jin will be far greater on Fischl.
makros
Thanks for the very clear and thorough testing, this video was very well put together. I appreciate the patience it must have taken to hold off on claiming your constellations to test at different levels. Good stuff!
Yunjin compensates for low scaling because show provides base dmg, Bennett works with good attack scaling and normal attacks are so small that they can't really be considered good scaling
Your video is always very precise and informative, I'm so glad youtube recommend your channel 🥺 Thank you for the comparison!
At c6 yoimiya dmg with yunjin goes beyond bennet because yoimiya gets more hits in. She becomes speed yoi with yunjin c6.
Add r5 deathmatch to yunjin as I have and even more potential. Shes great! In abyss youre probably using both of them and an electro unit like raiden or beidou to add more dmg to yoimiya. 36 star clears become easier with her
Thanks for including Noelle in the comparison! I know she's not the most popular dps but she just goes with Yun Jin so well
@@diesmochizou9595 Nah she was always underrated. Only recently because of Itto she became overrated. People like to do this with every f2p early game characters.
@@diesmochizou9595
For my whale Noelle Yunjin has proved to be stronger than Benett. The killer combo is Yun Jin and Gorou both fueling Noelle. You can even triple Buff Noelle with Benett Gorou and Yun Jin for maximum Unga Bunga. That's why maining Noelle is awesome. Even if Benett couldn't heal, Noelle would be enough to heal the whole team so you can focus on maximising her DPS.
My only disappointment is that Gorou can't fully buff Yun Jin (she gets 25% DEF from his Q, but his E buff doesn't stay off-field) :/ imagine there being only 5 DEF-scaling characters in the game, and he doesn't even work with all of them...
Maining Noelle is awesome (if she's c6)
@@gaeuchyaer5338 agreed. Only shelfed her for Itto cause I love hurling the cow at people...
@@theshard5697 what do you mean by off-field? Which characters can't Gorou buff?
@@ThatOneGanyuMain Yun Jin can't make use of Gorou's E DEF buff.
I use both of them in my team and tbh
It's bean great mostly since she has a counter like beido whenever enemies are attacking imma switch to her real quick
And she absorbs it all for the team.
Overall I would like them to buff her like her bieng able to add some base attack to Elemental skill or something,tho I know it would make her too op for a support so yeah
while that seems nice its still nothing to bennet. With bennet you could take the hit in the face and you'll be fine. And since Yun Jin is gonna be niche she should have enabled normals to far surpass bennet and not just keep up.
@@SaintDragon666 did you see the video? She doesnt keep up, she surpasses. Imagine at c6 with the speed
@@The_Sphinx-22 Your joking right its nowhere close to being much better. Even with the speed who is yun jin good with besides noel and yoimia? Yun Jin is not good with itto since she doesn't buff charge attacks. With fischel, bennet buffs Oz making bennet far superior. And bennet buffs other teamates so the slight advantage that yun jin gives over bennet for these 2 character could be negated by the buff from other team mates.
@@The_Sphinx-22 The main beniffit from yun jin is that she frees up bennet for other teams. Shes not much of an upgrade over bennet.
I find these number comparison videos the most helpful 👍
This was super helpful thank you!
Thank you for this detailed update!
omg ty so much for the effort in this video Sevy!
This video is what I needed! Very infomative 👍👍
Thank you for the video; I appreciate it
Great Yunijn video!! Such a unique buffer, tysvm Sevy~!
This is one of the best review, because she slow down the video so we can understand easily thank you
XL and ZL will also benefit a lot since they have many small multiplier AA instances
another nice comparison video!
Thank you for your vids
Omg sevy i recently watched atsu's video about shenhe and he mentioned you 🥰 he really likes your guide videos toooo
Hoping to get extra copies of her on the standard banner with my saved up wishes for that banner.
Can't wait for her re-run, since I don't want Shenhe, and I already have Xiao.
Loving what she is bringing to the game
Thanks .. you helped me a lot
Yunjin seems like a huge deal for physical Fischl if you play her using the AARR Attack string since she buffs low multiplier attacks significantly more
You can even use 4 peice archaic petra to increase your dps damage even more when you pick up the elemental shards from crystalized reactions.
this will be good for my Razor-Diona-Albedo-Yunjin comp
I love yunjin for Geo team especially with Zhongli Itto and Gorou! Never know that she'll be pretty good on other teams too hehe thanksss sevy
For Fischl, it would have been interesting to see comparison when Oz isn't out, as her c1 procs should theoretically proc Yunjin buff as well.
Wouldn't that just mean she burns the stack much faster?
Interesting. I got that C1 so I will be able to test that later. I am now curious 🤔
This works very well, its been tested and a bit like Fischl first normal, it gets a much much larger buff then is to be expected. Zhongli (spear kick) and Xiangling's multi-hits are similar. With Fischl you still want Oz you just summon him before, do team rotation, he drops off about half way through Yun Jin's burst and you enjoy the C1 for a few seconds and resummon him when Yun Jin buff ends.
It almost makes me wonder if the 5s passive on Mitternachts Waltz was intentional, but i believe that bow was designed way way before Yun Jin's kit was finalized.
You should be more worry about not being able to use up the stacks, which is what happens with most characters.
Finally! A new support character that can buff more than Benny boy. I was planning to use physical Fishl with Yun Jin for exploration after I get her C3 from the guanteed copy in lantern festival, but I want to explore Enkanomiya now and seeing that C2 provides enough damage gap, I'll be farming DEF artifacts right away!
I had a really hard time understanding how yunjin works this video fixed that. Thanks!
Nice video as always, can you please do a comparison with 4pc Petra yunjin on elemental carries like yoi vs 4pc husk?
Very simple and to the point, well done and also nice to see Fischl 😋. The Fischl vs Noelle comparison with each hit, the first few normals, is really on point for explaining Yun Jin's way of buffing. I have a odd idea for you most have forgotten about regarding your C6 Bennet and Yun Jin, if you ever want consider trying a Rosaria (Crimson Witch), C6 Bennet, Yun Jin, Xingqiu comp, i'd imagine that could be very interesting.
I think ATK Speed buffs are multiplicative, so C6 is really big in that regard, but thats a lot of cons to pull in one banner for a f2p or budget player, the advice about C2 is likely well warranted.
You can try it. Even without a c6 Bennett you could try that combo.
I am glad you corrected the first video
I’m glad you admitted to being wrong and redid a video. That takes a certain level of courage!
As always, thanks for another great video Sevy 😊
Interesting comparison. I do think it's better to have Geo Resonance than to max out on Yun Jin's passive but otherwise I think it's a good test.
Thanks Sevy ! I can’t wait to choose her during the next Lantern Rite Festival !
Great video with good math, pretty much everything I'm looking for. However, the Bennet comparison for Noelle doesn't make sense to me because Bennet was never a core part of Noelle teams anyway. Noelle would prefer an off field dps or defense/geo damage buffer over a flat attack buffer because she already gets massive atk boost from burst. Relatively she gains less from Bennett buff versus say , a xiangling with 1.2k atk to start with, which goes up to 2.2k. I think a more apt geo character to use as a DPS test would be ningguang, since she is a more typical on field dps who relies on atk and Bennett is already a great support for her. I heard that yunjin and ning c1 work great together with a grouper but I don't have venti to test with.
you're right, but i think the noelle test proves a point, if the character has a high atk (like noelle in burst mode), yunjin's buff hits diminishing returns just like benny boost, and yunjin's buff isn't the best for noelle (or NAs for itto)
I think this is somewhat of a misconception (not entirely).
While Noelle does get less from a Bennett buff than most characters, it is still substantial. The Bennett in this video buffs ATK by over 1000. Even for a 4k or 5k ATK Noelle, that is a 20-25% increase.
Compared to that, a burst 11 Gorou provides only around 700 ATK.
For me personally, both Bennett and Yun Jin buff Noelle more than Gorou does. He might edge out at C6, but I don't have that.
About Ningguang, she might get one of the biggest boosts from Yun Jin out of anyone, because each NA strikes twice with very low multipliers. Yun Jin can triple that damage and NAs are Ningguang's main/only "weak" spot in her kit.
@@theshard5697 I am in complete agreement with you here. I do want to point out that Gorou also provides a 15% geo dmg bonus when you have three geo characters on the team, which is a nice buff on top of the def to attack bonus he provides through her burst. I love to see new types of buffing characters and you guys talking about Ningguang makes me wanna test her out with Yun Jin when I'm able to get a copy of her!
@@acardoza1234 C2 Yun jin also gives 15% NA damage, and you dont need 3 geos in the party for that :P
I get that Gorou's buff is baseline, but his constellations in general are very lackluster imo and now that Yun Jin is out, his weaknesses stick out even more.
@@theshard5697 That's a very good point! I forgot about that constellation lol. I agree that I wish either Gorou's base kit or his cons (C6 aside obviously) were a little better. I still love the good boy, but it would have been cool if he filled his def / geo buff role a little better. Who knows when I'll actually get his C6 and experience his full potential for my teams 😅
I've been using her along my razor and is really nice
One good thing is you can use both in the same team.
You can and add a Zhongli so you have Pyro and Geo resonance which both boost your damage plus Zhongli resistance shred and no interruptions. Perfect team.
just came across this vid. im so glad i lost in yoimiya's banner (77 mona, 79 yoimiya) cuz i now have c5 bennett, c5 yunjin in just a single banner. started playing few days before 2.7 ended
I’m so glad I pulled for Yun Jin, I wasn’t going to originally but she feels so good!!
this is an underrated channel!
Do you mind following this up with Childe? I think they could have insane sinergy. Good video, thanks!
Do they stack with one another? If so, I kinda wanna see a Bennett, Yun Jin, Crowned Normal Attack Noelle, and Childe (for the elemental variety and the party Normal Attack +1 Talent).
I got her with 10 pulls in Shenhe banner and i stopped because i'm saving for Ganyu. I definitely will got her on a next banner that she comes with a 5 star that i want, i'm a Yoimiya Main, and she seems like an pretty powerfull addition to my comp (probably i'll run Yoimiya, Zhong, Yunjin and Bennett)
Thanks Sevy. I was doubting my in mind future teams: Zhongli (emblem) Ningguang(dps) Noelle (sub dps and heal) and Yunjin (waiting for lantern rite to get her) 😍👌. By your comparison gonna go full geo team 👏👍
I have to get Yun Jin's C6 from the Fleeting Colors event and my Noelle team can't wait.
Hi Sevvy, are you able to show Yunjin and Eula? Thanks!
I pulled in the banners to gather pity for zhongli. I ended up with a C3 Yun Jin.. I'm planning to make a separate team for her with Yoimiya once I have finished farming her mats
I feel like she's more comparable to subdpses than supports, particularly ones that don't have linear scaling (xingqiu, beidou, fischl, etc) but not someone like xiangling bc she just does more damage the more enemies there are). I don't have her to test yet, but she seems like a cheaper to build option compared to some other characters (bc you just stack DEF on her and worry about the crit and dmg bonus% on the main) while having a lower DPS ceiling compared to other characters (conjecture, I have done very little math lol). I'd be curious to see how much damage she provides to a team compared to those kinds of characters. Tho she does provide the unique ability to vape/melt her damage through another character in ways other subdpses don't
good to know all her constellations are buffs, can't wait for lantern rite since I'm not pulling on the current banners
I wish there was a Yoimiya +Bennet+Yoimiya just to see the damage increase
C0 Eula is already a nuke, curious what Yunjin at C6 does. Might need to test this out! Thanks for the Video
best team comp so far i think is yoimiya kokomi fischl yunjin, all three got boost from yunjin, and kokomi water application is sufficient for yoimiya to trigger vape on every cooldown, and fischl overload add yoimiya AOE capability. also both kokomi + fischl electro charge combo is good for AOE too, very well all around team comp, not to mention the team comp take no xingqiu, no xiangling, no bennet, free up slots for other team.
If I were to main a physical fischl, should I go for full pale flame or 2 pale & 2 blood and for weapon should I use her signature weapon? Compound bow? Or rust? Assuming all is R1.
as a physical Fishel main since day 1Ar 55 right now , I loved going physical instead of elemental, and I have yu jin she is a really good buffer. adding shenhe and chongyun for the cryo physical thing. the only question I'm asking is why are you using 2 pale ,2 bloodstain? I'm using 4 pale since Oz counts for the attacks for the set I believe anyways I love your videos and would like to see more.
sevy can you tell me if i should make a place for yunjin instead of bennet or fischl for my razor
idk why this wasnt mentioned, but there is an interesting interaction with Fischls C1, which does apply Yunjins Burst, so it becomes a massive dmg increase to her physical atk. Downside is that you cant really use Oz at the same time
It isn't mentioned because having Oz out still does way more damage. Especially the higher Fischl's Constellations are. Even for phys Fischl, Oz just does more damage being on the field. It is a cool little trick though for electro slimes and stuff like that.
AR 56 first week player and I have no Bennet lol, genuinely excited for Yunjin now since I'm a Yoimiya, Fischl, and Noelle main
I love both Bennett and Yun Jin, so I’m going to Build her for my Wanderer as Bennett would be hard to use what with Wanderer’s flying and all that stuff.
Also, both Benny and Miss Yun are now C6.
C6 Bennet user here, did not know that the pyro buff worked regardless of weapon usage - not that it affected my teams much (been using a Xiangling-Bennett-Raiden setup)
A few things about hitting 80/90 would be getting the extra talent level in, I brought my Bennett to 90/90 with 2/9/9 talents, just working on my "OP meta core" rather than the constant flow of new main dps
This patch so far is a pretty nice breath of fresh air.. we have 2 new supports to add to team comps rathee than dps - and the more surprising one is actually the 4*, hoping to C6 her eventually
How about having Bennet and Yu Jin in the same team comm? how the buffs stack on top of the other for the DPS?
Can't wait for the Lantern Rite to get her!
My character highlight of 2.4
Tbh if yiu want your charcter to deal more dmg in elemental burst/skills/charged attacks go for Bennett but if your running dps kokomi you can use yunjin since she's mostly best in normal attacks and not that much in charged attacks but yunjin is viable, same goes with childe
No no no... Childe + Bennett is a Vape combo staple lol.
If your Benny is built right, you can throw 160k+ bursts effortlessly with just the 2 of them in your team... Benny + Hydro = big vapes
Still.. Bennet C1 is a jump and the fact that C0 Yun Jin can compete means she is already strong enough even without cons in certain team..
But the problem is.. for new players getting her ascension mats.. im gonna write these down in the next survey..
New players don’t need Bennett or Yunjin
@@sallyhope2137 An AR 10 definitely can run her as they are still operating with level limits and her first ascension just requires materials from Liyue. It is between AR25 and AR32 where you start running into issues with her. Although since she is a buffer having her at a slightly lower level than the rest of the party isn't too terribly bad.
@@axis9038 think about new players attracted to the new charas.. Itto, Aloy, Shenhe, etc.. of course new players play the game because you want to play the charas (mostly)
This will just get worse with every region. Imagine you start the game at the last region and have to play through the whole story first to get that one boss that has her mats.
Will a Noelle + Gorou + Yunjin team be insane?👀 I can't wait to try her out when I get her in the event.
i see off field support character, i pull, tho idk when i will use them, at this point i just collect what interest me lol
Yun Jin is machine-gun Fischl's armor piercing magazine.
I wonder how an em piece on yomiya would do in a comparison given Yun Jin buff works better with less atk%
great video, but you should showcase their damage without bennet & yun jin to see how much they increase the damage without them
Imagine havingo both C6 Bennet and C6 Yun Jin dor your Yoimia
Godmiya
I used a team composed of Childe, Yun Jin, Sayu and Thoma, they're better than I thought after Yun Jin buffed all of them.
Wish there would be more normal attackers that would want yun jin. Most high tier dps rn either depends on burst and other way of attacking or that they already have teams that doesnt really have space for yun jin. Still props to yun jin for keeping up with bennet though.
I have dropped 90 wishes on Xiao banner and have yet to pull a YunJin, and I was hoping for at least C2. My Yoimiya and Noelle want her support so bad!
Those who are planning on building her, you can craft inazuma spear to r5 without leveling it to satisfy her burst. Her elem skill uses only her defense so no need to upgrade the spear.
If you want her to crit, use White Tassel. It works like wonder with my 130% CD 2.3k defense Yun Jin. Tho you sacrifice some ER, still it's up time is viable
i have yunjin at c6
she is a bomb
totally rocking
I wonder what happens if the 2 were in the same team, stacking their buff.
Hiyaaaaa. I was wondering if Yun Jin is also a good pair for kokomi? :
I'm using
Yoimiya ruet with shimenewa
Bennet with prototype and noblesse
Xinqui with sac sword and emblem
And sucrose with 600em ttds and vv set
Idk who to replace and if I should replace someone with yunjin
Please do an updated Zhongli build video.
Wasn’t fussed about yun Jin but then I tried her in her trial and really wanted her managed to get her c4 and accidentally got shenhe and xiao in the process but now need to save and grind massively since originally was gonna save for a garunteed ganyu so Yh need to hit the ground running and fast 😂
I want to see if this yunjin can do more to my Eula
Quick question is it possible to stack both bennetts buff and yun jin buff together?
How about yunjin with childe? Does her attack buff works on childe's skills?
I really, really want her constellations, but I'll have to settle for the free one (which I'm very glad we are getting) because I don't want to pull on either of these banners. I did a few wishes, but I don't want to push my luck because I'm saving for 2.5. It's still so tempting though 😫
I'm happy then, since I wanted her for my second abyss team, and I'm gona make her C4 with the free yun jin on the upcoming event.
It may not improve her burst buff directly but it will increases her def if you crystallize with her so if you use your burst to do it, she gets more def wich means more buff.
If I can somehow manage to get 3 Xingqiu’s from the next banner then I will make yun Jin c4 also. But I doubt it because Xingqiu hates me and I’ve been wanting his constellations forever lol
How is fischl still doing Physical dmge here though 4:18 ? Unless i am missing something 😬
I use Diluc main dps, I assume Yun Jin is not good with him? considering you weave in E between your normal attacks, and after his burst his normal attacks are imbued with pyro.
How does Yun Jin buff Childe? I'm not sure if he has low base damage multipliers like fischl... or higher like yoimiya? 🤲
As someone that doesn't have bennet this is gold
kapag nakuha ko si yun jin sa lantern rite gagamitin ko sya kay xiangling para pampataas ng physical normal attacks niya. problema lang kailangan kong kalabanin yung golden wolflord para sa ascension materials