Loki is such a great show. It's just frustrating to see Kangs death mean absolutely nothing to other projects. They killed the creator of the sacred timeline, yet nobody cares.
Fan Theory: 616’s universe has spiraled out of control because there isn’t someone who’s grooming the timeline. The unbalanced state of heroes and the universe will bring reason as to why people would prefer someone like Kang over Doctor Strange to secure the Multiverse from further incursions.
I like the video but your wrong about dream walking, Tony was never dream walking in Iron Man 3, in Order to dream walk you need to know the spell of it, and Tony never had any magical abilities he was just suffering ptsd
@seblewongelmamo9446 that's true but that's just dreaming, not dream walking, Tony would have been just looking at another universe of himself that went through the Battle of New York, he never traveled into that alternate version of his body
If kang claims to have killed our current Avengers repeatedly, once thats believed by the current avengers (Scott's death with Cassie there for the mantle is a good way to do this, I agree) they would most definitely see the merit in new people that Kang has never dealt with. This then becomes an easy way to add more and more and more new people for as long as kang lives.
Here's how I would rewrite the Multiverse Saga: Phase 4: Have a 3-5 year hiatus to properly plan the future so that content doesn't get rushed, limit the Disney plus shows because it's getting repetitive and not all of us have Disney plus. Establish Tom's Spider-Man as the main hero of the saga like the Infinity Saga did with Iron Man; give him the No Way Home treatment and all with him being the traditional Spider-Man, introduce the new Avengers and give them proper development, introduce the X-Men now that they have the rights back, balance paying homage to older franchises with using creativity, have Kang as the main antagonist of Phase 4 like they did with Loki in Avengers 1; there would be an Avengers movie called Avengers: Reborn with the New Avengers and X-Men coming together to face off Kang while the movie lays the groundwork for Doctor Doom, just like how Avengers 1 laid the groundwork for Thanos. Phase 5: Develop the new heroes and their X-Men, introduce the Fantastic Four, culminate Phase 5 with Avengers: Secret Invasion (how I'd do Secret Invasion, I'd do it as an Avengers movie and not some low-stakes show) and give worldbuilding with places like Latveria. And explore more unique universes like how Across the Spider-Verse did with Indian Spider-Man, Gwen, Hobie, etc. Phase 6: Develop X-Men, New Avengers, and F4, introduce some new heroes, and Doomsday and Secret Wars should be the finales of the saga. You can give me more ideas with rewriting and tell me what you think of my idea so far. It may not be perfect, but I'm trying to come up with ideas for rewriting the saga so that my pitch won't feel directionless like the MCU's is feeling like.
On the topic of the Eternals, the reason why they weren't around was because everything in Infinity War like what happened in New York was happening so fast for them to properly react to what was happening and the entire group was split off around the world. Also, the reason why the Celestials didn't interfere with Thanos was that they did not know about his plan to eradicate half of all life in the universe because they were not all-seeing despite being massively powerful. Also, there was no threat of a Deviant attack which was their main goal of eradicating. As well as them being able to live for millions of years, if Thanos eradicated all life in the universe, they could just wait for the world to repopulate back into the proper numbers for the Celestials to emerge.
There needs to be more logic to the multiverse and how it works. Making the loki show be the single reason marvel exist seems very short sighted to me. Instead it should be descovered at somepoint in the story that it was the original 616 universe (NOT the mcu, thats universe 199999 no matter what Kevin feige thinks) that leads to every other universe being an off shoot of it. It not only respects the original comics but it also allows all other adaptations and the film universes to be a part of one big universe plus it adds an extra lvl of mystique to the original 616 comics world. It also makes sense as a real world wink to it because all movies, games and alternate comic adaptations are all off shoots of the original comics. we wouldnt have them without it.
Great vid! I did a prewrite of sorts, though it wasnt too far from what I think we'll get. I think the MCUs been ambitious in all the wrong ways, and lazy in all the wrong ways. The write I did is pretty detailed, so only read it if ur interested. But I thought I might as well post it. Phase 5 2023 Quantumania february GOTG vol 3 may Secret invasion. May-june Loki season 2. August-september The marvels november 2024 Echo. March-april New world order May Thunderbolts. July Ironheart. August-september Blade. September Daredevil: born again November-December Phase 6 2025 Agatha: coven of chaos january-february Deadpool 3. March Wonder-man May-June Armour wars. July Fantastic 4. November 2026 New avengers February-March Spiderman 4. May Black panther 3. August Daredevil: BA S2. September-october Shang-chi 2. November 2027 Doctor strange 3 february Moon knight S2. March-April Kang Dynasty. May Midnight suns October-November Adam Warlock November 2028 Kang origin D+ (loki prequel) feb-march FINAL DAYS SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS Secret wars. May Fantastic four 2. November Ant man and the Wasp: Quantumania Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3 The Marvels Captain America: New World Order (civil war type movie, first team up) Thunderbolts (avengers type movie, main villains val and sentry) Blade (standalone character set up film) Phase 6 Deadpool 3 (introduces deadpool into MCU, multiverse film. Mostly just a fun deadpool film. Ends with him entering mcu) Armour wars. (Mini crossover event, main focus on war machine. Ironheart featured heavily. Classic ironman villain) Fantastic Four. (Intruduces FF with establishing threat) Spiderman 4 (street level spiderman film, main villain scorpion) Black panther 3 (conclusion to the trilogy, sees wakanda up against White wolf) Shang-chi 2. (Is a direct sequel to the first. Standalone shang-chi story) Doctor Strange in the Dimension of Darkness (closes out doctor strange trilogy with him fighting off the dark dimensiom. Standalone film but massive event. Clea invlolved heavily) Avengers: Kang Dynasty Adam Warlock (takes place between GOTG vol 3 and Kang Dynasty. Features celestials heavily, potentially main antagonists.) Avengers: Secret Wars Fantastic Four 2. (FF go up against their first major threat as they deal with the aftermath of secret wars. Establishes them as key players going forward)
*The Multiverse Saga* *Phase 4* *Spider-Man: Prestige* (I’m gonna copy a bit from your Spidey cinematic universe video and have Kingpin be the villain instead of Mysterio. With Norman Osborn being a side antagonist. As I want this trilogy to mainly focus on street-level villains before we get to super-powered ones, this movie will also lead into Daredevil S3, Black Cat will also be in this movie as a potential love interest) *WandaVision* (same show) *Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings* (same movie except Mandarin will reference his fight with Iron Man in the past) *Daredevil S3* (same show except references to Spider-Man and the blip) *Captain America: Legacy* (Basically FATWS as a movie, main villain will be U.S Agent) *The Punisher S2* (same but will highlight the effects of the blip) *Black Panther: War of Kings* (With much respect to Chadwick Boseman, I feel like he wouldn’t want the character T’Challa to pass away along with him, therefore with a heavy heart, I’ll be recasting T’Challa. Namor will still be the main antagonist and the movie will end the same way it did in the original) *Loki S1* (the same show, only Loki is more aggressive and less nice since this supposed to be Loki fresh from Avengers 2012) *She-Hulk* (instead of a whole show, I’d rather have this be the first 45 min special presentation) *The Inhumans S2* (the same except references to the blip and Kang) *Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness* (actually different aspects of the multiverse instead of 1 or 2. Also the MCU will be classified as Earth-199999 *Phase 5* *Ant-Man: Small World* (this will be the second special presentation featuring Scott Lang as the new Ant-Man, it’s 45 minutes long and pretty much the short version of the original 2015 movie, except the villain is Eric O’ Grady, a.k.a Black Ant) is *Marvel Girl S1* same show but this will Kamala Khan’s superhero name, as I wanna keep Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel) *The Marvels* *Spider-Man: Responsibility* (no multiverse stuff, the main villain will be Doctor Octopus and since Kingpin was defeated in Daredevil S3, Norman Osborn will be the new man in power, this movie will mark the end of the high-school trilogy) *Heroes for Hire S1* (this show will combine Luke Cage and Iron Fist as they fight corruption, also includes some elements from the comic run) *The Mighty Thoress* (I never thought it made sense to give Thor’s name to someone else like it’s a mantle, so I’ll be renaming Jane-Thor into Thoress. If you have better suggestions please let me know 😅. This will be a 45 min special presentation on Jane getting Thor’s powers. Will be set a little before Thor 4) *Thor: The God Butcher* (throw Waititi’s goofy ass out the directors chair and have this film be more serious. Gorr will look like his comic counterpart and Thor has the suit he wears in the beginning of the movie for the rest of of the film. Also the Necrosword that Gorr uses is confirmed to be a symbiote in the MCU) *Marvel’s What If?* (the same) *Daredevil S4* (this will be following the ramifications of Fisk being taken down, Jessica Jones will be making her appearance in this season and Bullseye will appear. Spider-Man as well makes a quick cameo) *The Punisher S3* (this will be the season finale) *Moon Knight* (this will be the MCU’s first Rated R movie) *Captain America: New World Order* (sets up the Thunderbolts, and since Leader is already established in my version of the MCU, this will be his second appearance as a main villain) *The Thunderbolts* *Werewolf By Night* (the same special presentation but the rating is M) *Loki S2* (season finale) *Guardians of the Galaxy: The Holiday Special* *Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3* *The Inhumans S3* (sets up the F4 movie) *Fantastic Four* *Phase 6* *Doctor Strange 3* (whatever the third film is going to end up being) *Spider-Man: Night of the Goblin* (this will be the start of the college trilogy, and if it wasn’t already obvious, Green Goblin AKA Norman Osborn will be the main villain. Gwen Stacy will also die in the movie and Peter will quit being Spider-Man at the end of the film) *Marvel’s What If? S2* *Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time* *Heroes for Hire S2* (sets up Daredevil S5) *Daredevil S5* (this will be the season to feature the all Defenders fighting together for the first time. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist) *Captain America: Serpent Society* (this will be exactly like the comics and Madame Hydra will be the main villain, Baron Zemo will make an appearance as well) *The Mutants* (this will be a 45 min special presentation with a young Charles Xavier and Magneto. Showing how they met and including a Wolverine cameo. By the end Magneto becomes evil and swears vengeance on humans) *The Uncanny X-Men* (the lineup will be pretty young with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Beast, and Ice Man. The villains will be Magneto and the brotherhood of mutants) *Hercules: Rise of the Gods* (This film will include Thor vs Hercules and have a God of War type of plot) *Fantastic Four 2* *The Inhumans S4* (the season finale and will set up the upcoming Avengers movie) *Nova* *Avengers: Kang Dynasty* *Avengers: Secret Wars* (Spidey will get the symbiote in this film) Aaand that marks the end of the Multiverse Saga. I would do more but I don’t really have anything to build off of to make a Phase 7 😅 if it were up to me I’d make the next 3 phases all about the X-Men and call it *”The Mutant Saga”* but time will tell. Farewell for now ✌️
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan I’m thinking something like Serpent Society where Hydra drops a bomb that turns people practically into zombies. But I wait until Marvel announces what they’ll make it about
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan as you know, Namor is a mutant he’s the main villain for BP2. And he’ll appearances in Avengers 5&6. His solo movies will be part of the mutant saga (which won’t come out for quite a while)
@@TheLuthorri BS a recast is absolutely necessary. Refusing to recast just ruins the character of Black Panther. I dont understand why people dont get this. Real life should never be allowed to change established storylines. It just ruins the trejectory of the characters.
A smidge off-topic but I really wanted to get this off my chest (plus I’m kinda bored. This is how I would rewrite the the whole MCU) *The Infinity Saga* *Phase 1* *Captain America: The Super Soldier* (I love RDJ’s Iron Man but I feel like it would be more appropriate to kick off the universe with the leader of the Avengers, also the movie will end with a memorial for Captain America’s supposed death, I want to save him waking up years later in a future movie) *Iron Man* (same movie) *The Incredible Hulk* *Iron Man 2* (this movie will essentially be the Armor Wars storyline in the comics, with the villain being a mix of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo, also no Black Widow) *Thor* (cut out Hawkeye) *Ant-Man* (I find it strange that Marvel didn’t opt to put this hero in Phase 1, so I’ll do it in this rewrite. Practically a similar movie to the original except the villain will be Egghead and Hank Pym is the hero, the post credit scene will feature Steve Rogers waking up in the present. It will proceed like it did in the end of the First Avenger) *The Avengers* (same movie but the team will consist of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, and Wasp. And the Oscorp building will make a slight cameo in the final battle scene, as Sony was going to let Marvel put it in originally but it was cut due to time restrictions) *Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S1* (This will be the first show in the MCU and will be set after the Avengers. Instead of Agent coulson coming back, Nick Fury will be the main character along with Maria Hill. It will be a spy espionage thriller that will lead into the Captain America sequel. Black Widow will be making her first appearance in this show as well) *Phase 2* *The Incredible Hulk 2* (I think it’s a shame that out of all the core Avengers, Hulk is the only one who didn’t get a trilogy. Just imagine in this universe, Universal decides to play nice and let Marvel make a trilogy. This movie will start off Phase 2 and the villains will be the Leader and Absorbing Man. Hulk will also learn how to talk in this movie, basically the same speech he had in Ragnarok. Post credit scene will tease She-Hulk) *Thor: The Dark World* (cut down Jane’s screen time in favor of Frigga and Malekith. That way when Frigga dies it will be more impactful to the audience, and Malekith’s character can be more fleshed out) *Iron Man 3* (more or less the same movie except Hawkeye will be the one helping Tony instead of a kid. Making his first debut in this MCU rewrite no stupid Mandarin plot-twist. Have the same actor who played Wenwu in Shang-Chi be the villain and Aldrich Killian as the secondary antagonist. Also this movie will be released around Christmas time) *Captain America: Most Wanted* (I’m only changing the title since it feels weird to have the word “Soldier” back to back. Other than that it’s the same movie, also I’d like to add Norman Osborn (yes he exists in this universe) as a potential Hydra threat, just add to more hype) *Guardians of the Galaxy* (same movie) *Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S2* (this season will deal with the ramifications from CA 2 and be a “who can you trust” type of season) *Giant-Man and the Wasp* (The main villain is Ghost and her motivations are the same as the original movie, except she’s more merciless. The mob also wants to get their hands on Pym tech for their “high buyer” This film will essentially be a heist with everyone going after Hank Pym and his tech. The post credit scene will feature Hank getting the idea to create artificial intelligence) *Avengers: Age of Ultron* (Instead of Tony, it will be Hank who creates Ultron as in the comics. I’m also going to be taking some inspiration from Nando v Movies and have the Masters of Evil be in this film and working for Ultron. The team will consist of Ultron, Ghost, Klaw, Abomination, Crossbones, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver. The last two will be switching sides to the Avengers as in the original. Quicksilver survives in this movie. And She-Hulk also makes an appearance by the end to help the Avengers) *Daredevil S1* (the same as in 2015) *Phase 3* *Captain America: Civil War* (the same movie except Crossbones doesn’t die and the main conflict will be less about Bucky being framed and more about the accords themselves. Which I’ll be renaming the Superhuman Registration Act. It will be the driving force of the movie and the reason why the heroes are fighting. Also Giant-Man will switch to his alter persona as Yellow Jacket per in the comics. Pro Act Iron Man War Machine Spider-Man Black Panther She-Hulk Yellow Jacket Vision Against Act Captain America Winter Soldier Falcon Wasp Daredevil Scarlet Witch Quicksilver The movie will end the same way. *Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S3* (this will be the season finale, dealing with the effects of Civil War. Taskmaster will be the main villain in this season and it will also feature Hawkeye and Black Widow) *Doctor Strange* (same film) *The Punisher S1* (the same) *Yellow Jacket: Quantumania* (Things will be on edge after Hank’s own wife betrayed him in favor of helping Cap during Civil War. The main villain will be M.O.D.O.K and the film will be like the AM3 except no Kang. The film will end with Hank and Janet reconciling their problems. The post credit scene will feature a tease with Scott Lang in a prison cell) *Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2* *Daredevil S2* (same, but some plot points lead into Homecoming) *Spider-Man: Homecoming* (erase the AI components of the suit. Replace “MJ” and Ned with Harry and Gwen. Norman Osborn will have been revealed to be the high buyer in the Ant-Man 2, and Vulture wants revenge against him instead of Tony Stark. Aunt May doesn’t find out Peter’s identity) *Thor: Ragnarok* (have the movie be more serious and take out the Sakaar portion. Enchantress and comic accurate Skurge will also be in this film. Hulk doesn’t appear in this film, instead I’d have Beta Ray Bill take his place in Thor’s fight for Asgard, after the war is won, Beta Ray will go out in the cosmos where he has an encounter with the planet Sakaar, setting up the next Hulk movie) *Black Panther* *The Inhumans S1* (completely rewrite the original 2017 and make it more inline with the rest of the universe) *Avengers: Infinity War* (Practically nothing to change except no Hulk in this movie and War Machine dies by one of Thanos’ henchmen instead of getting dusted) *Planet Hulk* (this is what I was saving Sakaar for, basically the same as the 2010 animated movie except Hulk leaves Earth on his accord. The end of the movie will feature the effects of Thanos’ snap) *Ms. Marvel* (Carol Danvers keeps the Ms. Marvel name with the iconic black and gold suit. Also Fury gets his eye taken by a Kree instead of a freaking cat) *Avengers: Endgame* (the same movie except Captain Marvel helps the Avengers time travel and in the final battle, it will be Hulk who shows up with his battle-world buddies to blow up Thanos’ ship, the rest proceeds as normal) I don’t want this comment getting overly long, (well longer than it is already) so I split up The Infinity Saga and Multiverse Saga into two comments. Check newest first for the Multiverse Saga 👍
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan I want to try and blend the Netflix and Disney+ shows into one continuity, without the phases feeling too compacted. That way it would make it easier for audiences to follow along the timeline without feeling intimidated by the sheer size. The MCU is a massive franchise, there is still so much space for the characters you’re bringing up. Which I’ll be including soon, just trust the process 😌
Wow that was such a great video! Really enjoyed it, good job! I wish it was more like this, and was more cohesive irl. But I do have a couple thoughts if I had to change some things, one would be to have the daredevil born again show end with a theatrical movie as the finale, maybe called daredevil and Spiderman or something with a kingpin subtitle, or maybe “the new defenders” or “the street avengers”, idfk lol. This is because I think it would be odd to have the phase end with a show to culminate everything. Though I do think daredevil should still be a show as well. The movie (though the show wouldn’t to the same degree) would include Spiderman as a main or major supporting character, and also have kate bishop’s Hawkeye, echo, and possibly others like black cat if she was in Spiderman 4 in this version. And how that would work is I would also maybe take some of the street level story projects that you had in phase 5 and put it in phase 4 so that it would all be in one phase, making that daredevil finale movie essentially be the “avengers” to the saga, tying everything together. And yeah I suppose maybe having no way way home either a little earlier and then Spiderman 4 being before the daredevil movie would be good, and Spiderman 4 could maybe have tombstone and scorpicorn and stuff working for kingpin but kingpin isn’t the main villain, just in the shadows. And yeah I think echo is a good idea as well, but again in phase 4 to make it all culminate to the daredevil finale movie. Yes this would make the phase be longer, but I think that could be fine, and you could move some of the other movies unrelated to it (not all of them) to phase 5. And yeah. I also briefly thought as I was watching this video that no way home should have been Spiderman 4 in this, because then Spiderman 3 can lead up to the daredevil movie, and so he can go to street level right away and not have no way home until phase 5, although when I got thinking about it I realized we still need to fix his identity being revealed from FFH, so NWH works to do that (among furthering the multiverse plot of course). But you could just undo that in a different way in a Spiderman 3 or just delete that post credit scene from FFH (though that is the previous phase, but it is the last scene). And this street level stuff wouldn’t now completely end tho, just to not have the phase feel too detached, so maybe daredevil would have another season in phase 5 or 6 (with a different villain), and maybe echo or Hawkeye as well, and then Spiderman would also have at least one more movie, so either in phase 5 or 6. Though this street level stuff wouldn’t have another crossover event, they would mostly be separate, but maybe would have some characters crossing over between these shows/movies. And all of them would be in secret wars and maybe TKD. So yeah lol, those are my ideas. I also feel like if I were to do this I would add in another captain America movie after TFATWS, probably in phase 5 or 6. Honestly tho TFATWS could probably be renamed to cap 4, and then the next would be cap 5. And then I would also add in another avengers movie in probably phase 5, so before the kang dynasty. But I would make this movie pretty separate to the overall multiverse saga plot. Though maybe tying into Captain America 4 and 5 potentially, but it wouldn’t have to. And then this avengers movie’s main purpose would be establishing the new avengers team, because I don’t think we would have time for that in kang dynasty (now avengers 6). And yeah the villain could be any villain tbh, like it would be similar to how Age of Ultron had a different threat all together. But yes with maybe some minor multiverse tie-ins. I also would add a sequel in likely phase 5 for Shang chi, and for phase 5 or 6 add a black panther 3, Doctor strange 3, and probably a Spiderman 6 if we do what I said with phase 4. So yeah more sequels for sure. And yeah so those are my thoughts about what I would change about that video. Lol I know this was super long, I’m sorry 😂. And yeah so those are my thoughts about what I would change. But these are just my ideas, I truly really, really enjoyed your video, great job! Just subscribed.
a villain killing everyone is not the only way to show power and strength. kang’s power comes from the fact that he is infinite. you kill one and one million more show up right after and at least ONE of those knows how to beat you. thats what makes him a great big bad. we don’t need Thanos 2.0 or Stronger Thanos From The Future. letting kang die and then constantly reappear stronger than before is actually far more interesting and terrifying. there was maybe one or two solid ideas in this video, but for the most part it’s not good. i’m glad we got the cluttered story we got because you omitted some really important characters
Nice approach I agree with most of the things you said. However, some things does not make sense. Furthermore, Guardians of the Galaxy as introducing high evolutionary could be the base for the mutant saga and it seems more connected making it fit perfectly.
If I may make a suggestion for Wakanda forever: since mutants will be introduced in that film, what if the end credit scene has Nakia revealing herself like be storm?
The first project should’ve been falcon and winter solider rebranded into a film called captain America and winter solider which should’ve directly lead into scarlet witch and nwh
@@LewisFanFiction what if Spider-Man got black cat pregnant In the 616 unverse. I know that black cats kid was not real in the ps4 game but this time it is.
Heres the thing with the multiverse saga. They FINALLY owned all the Marvel properties and had a partnership for Spiderman. They had all the potential to slowly incorporate all the Marvel movies outside the MCU (Spidermen, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Blade, Daredevil, Etc) to set up Secret Wars but instead they just made every hero a woman 😂
The reality will be they need a rewrite phase one all the way up to phase five because they are missing key superheroes that never been brought out when it came to The Avengers and they were in the Avengers comic books but they weren't in the movies other Avengers nor was they mentioned
In the comics the avengers formed because of antman Thor/Loki and hulk. So I’d probably have them be the big three of the multiverse saga, and I’d have them at the forefront. Id have the stories of Thor and hulk set up higher powers of the marvel universe, with the pantheon of gods (I’d also have Thor return to the nine realms as I feel all those other worlds seemingly just got forgotten, Asgard had them under their care or protection, whatever happened to all of them?) Thors birth in the comics involving being brought back to life with the Phoenix force, and you can see what else that would set up. Then with Hulk you have the one below all and I’d explore the fact that bruce and hulk are basically immortal as Hulk will always save Bruce from death. The hulk film would pretty much adapt Immortal Hulk. But I’d mainly use Hulk to reintroduce the idea of mutations. Antman would be the only one at the end of the phase who learns the great dangers that could be on the way regarding kang and the multiverse. You have cosmic with Thor, monsters and mutants with hulk, and then the multiverse and return of the avengers/ formation of the new avengers with ant man. So they’d be the big three, with the next four new avengers filling the rest of phase four and they would mainly reestablish the current state of the mcu with black panther captain marvel and Spider-Man doctor strange and guardians. then have a few new hero movies like eternals and shang chi and nova. I like the idea of more civil war type movies replacing the avengers movies as buffer until the introductions of the x men and fantastic four, where it’s an event but based around one character. so at the end of phase four antman would have the “big avengers” movie, but he wouldn’t have the avengers. he’d just be the first to fight kang. Fantastic four would also be the big anticipated movie that I would put at the very end of phase four. This phase will be called The Saga of Eternity and doctor strange, again near the end of the phase (I’d have him disappear from the world for the entire phase because he’s struggling with the fact he traded the lives of Tony Stark and black widow for the entire universe), he will cause eternity to be killed which will destabilize the universe and/or the multiverse. There will also be a small twist of sorts that the destabilization of the mcu started when thanos and the avengers messed with the infinity stones, especially with thanos destroying the infinity stones. Phase Five would be called The Dark Phoenix Saga but it wouldn’t be Jean Grey going crazy, it would purely set up the multiversal power and force that is the Phoenix force and will help in the multiverse war (most likely just have Jean Grey eventually being possessed by the Phoenix be a good thing) event movies would be Thor, the xmen (solo mutant films would build up to the xmen movie with namor, Scarlet Witch, and Deadpool 3), and a fantastic four sequel. Kang variants will pop up like Rama tut but that whole kang dynasty matter will be resolved at the end of phase five only for the real multiversal threat of the beyonders to take over as the main villains for phase six. And then with phase six, titled The Multiverse Saga you just go all out with a fifth AND SIXTH avengers movies (because we have way past moved on from The Avengers being a crazy wild "oh damn characters from different movies are coming together in ONE movie to save the world, that's so cool" thing, right? and marvel studios deserves to feel that way, they put in all that work.) secret wars battle world movie, a new avengers assemble movie, an xmen dark Phoenix movie, and a very important fantastic four movie, and two more secret wars movies that soft reset and soft reboot the entire mcu with the x men and fantastic four being the only heroes who will move onto the new universe/new multiverse. I forgot to mention. The mcu will be destroyed at the end of phase five, the reason for this that due to the weakening of space and time during phase 3 and 4, the universe just breaks haha. and due to the events of the fantastic four sequel, they find out that if they want to save the mcu, then dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of universes around the mcu will be destroyed. The fantastic four choose the countless other universes over their own. but before they sacrifice the mcu, they save all of the heroes and villains of the mcu and send them across neighbouring universes in the multiverse, just so they can all stay alive and eventually bring the MCU back to life. So the multiverse saga would have everybody lost in the multiverse and have to find each other. you can see how this could lead to a battleworld situation. Why the mcu must be destroyed is because kang has some contingencies in the case he is killed. one of them being he’ll destroy your entire universe. so tha fantastic four and Doctor Doom would have to choose between saving the mcu or sacrificing it for the countless other universes that would otherwise die because of the Mcu still living, and kang made it this way somehow. Btw this all is envisioned as if marvel studios didn’t release any films from 2019-2023 and instead let everything rest for a bit. which would be impossible but yah haha. and also the bullet will very much be bit in the way there’s no time travel or multiversal reasons for the fantastic four only just now forming, and mutants and the Charles Xavier school will always have been around. The xmen would be formed because the original xmen team form themselves because for some reason Professor x never envisioned them as a superhero team. I kind of don’t think it makes sense for Professor x to create a school and safe place for mutants, and then one day think “I’m gonna make these kids fight dangerous foes” and so that’s why people like cyclops and others will form the xmen on their own and eventually return to the guidance of professor x. It’ll be like a Peter and May situation where the parent lets the kids be superheroes because at the end of the day it’s not totally terrible they want to help the world with their gifts. Last thing. I would most likely not even return anything to the status quo regarding iron man and captain America. For example in phase five I would make a Captain Falcon movie instead of Sam becoming Captain America, but obviously through the multiverse and time travel Steve Rogers would return and cameo during phase six. but once the reboot kicks in, Captain Falcon will still move onto the new universe as himself and the world will still recognize him as Captain Falcon. Just the world is inexplicably different in the way that Steve Rogers is around and he’s gone through some adventures that didn’t end in him getting old or dying, and he’s moved on peacefully with the shield still in his closet in case captain Falcon isnt enough moral heart and will haha. This would be the case for all of the first avengers in phase one. The only ones who would probably be truly reset as new characters is the new avengers squad like doctor strange captain marvel and antman who would all most likely die in the secret wars haha. Either that or/ and also maybe Thor and hulk would be reset to put their characters and the actors (mark ruffalo and Chris hemsworth) to rest like the infinity saga did with Tony Stark and Captain America. The new mcu would basically be all new, all different avengers and so the first avengers, new avengers, fantastic four, and xmen can all coexist at the same time. In some ways it turns the mcu to what it should have been with the fantastic four and mutants coming first before the avengers form. The first event movie for phase seven would then be called “The Avengers Assemble” and it would be the new avengers and the first avengers coming together as one team once and for all. Jane Foster and Shehulk will stand in for Thor and hulk, and in that way they kind of act as the bridge between the two groups (they both would’ve been introduced in phase five). The fantastic four and x men would be in the movie as well, and they’d alll fight galactus. It would also be the last avengers movie for the rest of the mcu. If you want avengers after that you’re only gonna get West Coast Avengers or Young Avengers or cosmic avengers haha Very last thing. Phase Nine would be a soft “marvel ruins” type of phase that ends with Deadpool killing the entire marvel cinematic universe, with the maker destroying the marvel cinematic multiverse entirely. Because cmon this thing has gotta end at some point right? Then you create the Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Universe and then you do johnathan hickmans secret wars in 50 years from now and it’ll be the UMCU vs the MCU haha.
2 youtu ers already made a great alternate ending to Wandavision. Your idea on the other hand would have ruined the character even more so im not down with this rewrite. I give ypur rewrite a 4 out of 10. No creativity whatsoever
This is a great rewrite, but in my version, write off the x-men completely and save them for a new saga, so that i can insert Avengers Vs. X-Men film into that saga which will be like a build up for that. Also i think the spider-man films should slightly adapt the stories from the insomiac games, spider-man 4 for the first spider-man game in 2018, but instead of doc ock, make kraven the villan instead, and the spider-man 5, for the new spider-man 2 game which released recently, and follow the symbiote storyline in that game but instead of harry being venom, it should be eddie brock, and for spider-man 6, idk yet, but a spider-man movie in the MCU where peter retires and miles becomes the new live action MCU spider-man would be a great story to tell, only if executed greatly.
You would probably say any rewrite was better than what we got. This rewrite was one of the weakest rewrites ive seen. There are way better storytellers on youtube than this guy.
Im sorry but I hate almost everyone of your ideas. Your idea would have still ruined multiverse of madness which i think was the worst film of phase 4. One of the worst MCU Phase 4 rewrites ive seen so far.
Loki is such a great show. It's just frustrating to see Kangs death mean absolutely nothing to other projects. They killed the creator of the sacred timeline, yet nobody cares.
Fan Theory: 616’s universe has spiraled out of control because there isn’t someone who’s grooming the timeline. The unbalanced state of heroes and the universe will bring reason as to why people would prefer someone like Kang over Doctor Strange to secure the Multiverse from further incursions.
Yeah i really hated how he who remains death meant nothing to the other films.
I like the video but your wrong about dream walking, Tony was never dream walking in Iron Man 3, in Order to dream walk you need to know the spell of it, and Tony never had any magical abilities he was just suffering ptsd
But in the movie it mentions that all dreams are just a vision of yourself in another universe
@seblewongelmamo9446 that's true but that's just dreaming, not dream walking, Tony would have been just looking at another universe of himself that went through the Battle of New York, he never traveled into that alternate version of his body
@@reyesreviews oh ya your right
@@reyesreviewsboy is on point !
He meant what he saw was just another version of tony loosing earth. Still makes sense right ?
If kang claims to have killed our current Avengers repeatedly, once thats believed by the current avengers (Scott's death with Cassie there for the mantle is a good way to do this, I agree) they would most definitely see the merit in new people that Kang has never dealt with. This then becomes an easy way to add more and more and more new people for as long as kang lives.
Here's how I would rewrite the Multiverse Saga:
Phase 4: Have a 3-5 year hiatus to properly plan the future so that content doesn't get rushed, limit the Disney plus shows because it's getting repetitive and not all of us have Disney plus. Establish Tom's Spider-Man as the main hero of the saga like the Infinity Saga did with Iron Man; give him the No Way Home treatment and all with him being the traditional Spider-Man, introduce the new Avengers and give them proper development, introduce the X-Men now that they have the rights back, balance paying homage to older franchises with using creativity, have Kang as the main antagonist of Phase 4 like they did with Loki in Avengers 1; there would be an Avengers movie called Avengers: Reborn with the New Avengers and X-Men coming together to face off Kang while the movie lays the groundwork for Doctor Doom, just like how Avengers 1 laid the groundwork for Thanos.
Phase 5: Develop the new heroes and their X-Men, introduce the Fantastic Four, culminate Phase 5 with Avengers: Secret Invasion (how I'd do Secret Invasion, I'd do it as an Avengers movie and not some low-stakes show) and give worldbuilding with places like Latveria. And explore more unique universes like how Across the Spider-Verse did with Indian Spider-Man, Gwen, Hobie, etc.
Phase 6: Develop X-Men, New Avengers, and F4, introduce some new heroes, and Doomsday and Secret Wars should be the finales of the saga.
You can give me more ideas with rewriting and tell me what you think of my idea so far. It may not be perfect, but I'm trying to come up with ideas for rewriting the saga so that my pitch won't feel directionless like the MCU's is feeling like.
On the topic of the Eternals, the reason why they weren't around was because everything in Infinity War like what happened in New York was happening so fast for them to properly react to what was happening and the entire group was split off around the world. Also, the reason why the Celestials didn't interfere with Thanos was that they did not know about his plan to eradicate half of all life in the universe because they were not all-seeing despite being massively powerful. Also, there was no threat of a Deviant attack which was their main goal of eradicating. As well as them being able to live for millions of years, if Thanos eradicated all life in the universe, they could just wait for the world to repopulate back into the proper numbers for the Celestials to emerge.
Eternals: Is everyone okay?
Iron Man: No thanks to you.
Correct me if I’m wrong but if the multiverse didn’t exist before Sylvie killed He Who Remains then how would Sylvie and all of the other Lokis exist?
Because they were variants of branching timelines, but got pruned immediately
There needs to be more logic to the multiverse and how it works. Making the loki show be the single reason marvel exist seems very short sighted to me. Instead it should be descovered at somepoint in the story that it was the original 616 universe (NOT the mcu, thats universe 199999 no matter what Kevin feige thinks) that leads to every other universe being an off shoot of it. It not only respects the original comics but it also allows all other adaptations and the film universes to be a part of one big universe plus it adds an extra lvl of mystique to the original 616 comics world. It also makes sense as a real world wink to it because all movies, games and alternate comic adaptations are all off shoots of the original comics. we wouldnt have them without it.
The only reason the multiverse exists is because they stopped pruning the timelines
YEAH! THE FULL MOVIE!😆
Wait. The phase 6 fanfic you posted 7 days ago was the last part?!
Great vid! I did a prewrite of sorts, though it wasnt too far from what I think we'll get. I think the MCUs been ambitious in all the wrong ways, and lazy in all the wrong ways. The write I did is pretty detailed, so only read it if ur interested. But I thought I might as well post it.
Phase 5
2023
Quantumania february
GOTG vol 3 may
Secret invasion. May-june
Loki season 2. August-september
The marvels november
2024
Echo. March-april
New world order May
Thunderbolts. July
Ironheart. August-september
Blade. September
Daredevil: born again November-December
Phase 6
2025
Agatha: coven of chaos january-february
Deadpool 3. March
Wonder-man May-June
Armour wars. July
Fantastic 4. November
2026
New avengers February-March
Spiderman 4. May
Black panther 3. August
Daredevil: BA S2. September-october
Shang-chi 2. November
2027
Doctor strange 3 february
Moon knight S2. March-April
Kang Dynasty. May
Midnight suns October-November
Adam Warlock November
2028
Kang origin D+ (loki prequel) feb-march
FINAL DAYS SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
Secret wars. May
Fantastic four 2. November
Ant man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3
The Marvels
Captain America: New World Order (civil war type movie, first team up)
Thunderbolts (avengers type movie, main villains val and sentry)
Blade (standalone character set up film)
Phase 6
Deadpool 3 (introduces deadpool into MCU, multiverse film. Mostly just a fun deadpool film. Ends with him entering mcu)
Armour wars. (Mini crossover event, main focus on war machine. Ironheart featured heavily. Classic ironman villain)
Fantastic Four. (Intruduces FF with establishing threat)
Spiderman 4 (street level spiderman film, main villain scorpion)
Black panther 3 (conclusion to the trilogy, sees wakanda up against White wolf)
Shang-chi 2. (Is a direct sequel to the first. Standalone shang-chi story)
Doctor Strange in the Dimension of Darkness (closes out doctor strange trilogy with him fighting off the dark dimensiom. Standalone film but massive event. Clea invlolved heavily)
Avengers: Kang Dynasty
Adam Warlock (takes place between GOTG vol 3 and Kang Dynasty. Features celestials heavily, potentially main antagonists.)
Avengers: Secret Wars
Fantastic Four 2. (FF go up against their first major threat as they deal with the aftermath of secret wars. Establishes them as key players going forward)
8:58 how could tony look into another universe if you said that the multiverse never existed before loki?
*The Multiverse Saga*
*Phase 4*
*Spider-Man: Prestige* (I’m gonna copy a bit from your Spidey cinematic universe video and have Kingpin be the villain instead of Mysterio. With Norman Osborn being a side antagonist. As I want this trilogy to mainly focus on street-level villains before we get to super-powered ones, this movie will also lead into Daredevil S3, Black Cat will also be in this movie as a potential love interest)
*WandaVision* (same show)
*Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings* (same movie except Mandarin will reference his fight with Iron Man in the past)
*Daredevil S3* (same show except references to Spider-Man and the blip)
*Captain America: Legacy* (Basically FATWS as a movie, main villain will be U.S Agent)
*The Punisher S2* (same but will highlight the effects of the blip)
*Black Panther: War of Kings* (With much respect to Chadwick Boseman, I feel like he wouldn’t want the character T’Challa to pass away along with him, therefore with a heavy heart, I’ll be recasting T’Challa. Namor will still be the main antagonist and the movie will end the same way it did in the original)
*Loki S1* (the same show, only Loki is more aggressive and less nice since this supposed to be Loki fresh from Avengers 2012)
*She-Hulk* (instead of a whole show, I’d rather have this be the first 45 min special presentation)
*The Inhumans S2* (the same except references to the blip and Kang)
*Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness* (actually different aspects of the multiverse instead of 1 or 2. Also the MCU will be classified as Earth-199999
*Phase 5*
*Ant-Man: Small World* (this will be the second special presentation featuring Scott Lang as the new Ant-Man, it’s 45 minutes long and pretty much the short version of the original 2015 movie, except the villain is Eric O’ Grady, a.k.a Black Ant) is
*Marvel Girl S1* same show but this will Kamala Khan’s superhero name, as I wanna keep Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel)
*The Marvels*
*Spider-Man: Responsibility* (no multiverse stuff, the main villain will be Doctor Octopus and since Kingpin was defeated in Daredevil S3, Norman Osborn will be the new man in power, this movie will mark the end of the high-school trilogy)
*Heroes for Hire S1* (this show will combine Luke Cage and Iron Fist as they fight corruption, also includes some elements from the comic run)
*The Mighty Thoress* (I never thought it made sense to give Thor’s name to someone else like it’s a mantle, so I’ll be renaming Jane-Thor into Thoress. If you have better suggestions please let me know 😅. This will be a 45 min special presentation on Jane getting Thor’s powers. Will be set a little before Thor 4)
*Thor: The God Butcher* (throw Waititi’s goofy ass out the directors chair and have this film be more serious. Gorr will look like his comic counterpart and Thor has the suit he wears in the beginning of the movie for the rest of of the film. Also the Necrosword that Gorr uses is confirmed to be a symbiote in the MCU)
*Marvel’s What If?* (the same)
*Daredevil S4* (this will be following the ramifications of Fisk being taken down, Jessica Jones will be making her appearance in this season and Bullseye will appear. Spider-Man as well makes a quick cameo)
*The Punisher S3* (this will be the season finale)
*Moon Knight* (this will be the MCU’s first Rated R movie)
*Captain America: New World Order* (sets up the Thunderbolts, and since Leader is already established in my version of the MCU, this will be his second appearance as a main villain)
*The Thunderbolts*
*Werewolf By Night* (the same special presentation but the rating is M)
*Loki S2* (season finale)
*Guardians of the Galaxy: The Holiday Special*
*Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3*
*The Inhumans S3* (sets up the F4 movie)
*Fantastic Four*
*Phase 6*
*Doctor Strange 3* (whatever the third film is going to end up being)
*Spider-Man: Night of the Goblin* (this will be the start of the college trilogy, and if it wasn’t already obvious, Green Goblin AKA Norman Osborn will be the main villain. Gwen Stacy will also die in the movie and Peter will quit being Spider-Man at the end of the film)
*Marvel’s What If? S2*
*Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time*
*Heroes for Hire S2* (sets up Daredevil S5)
*Daredevil S5* (this will be the season to feature the all Defenders fighting together for the first time. Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist)
*Captain America: Serpent Society* (this will be exactly like the comics and Madame Hydra will be the main villain, Baron Zemo will make an appearance as well)
*The Mutants* (this will be a 45 min special presentation with a young Charles Xavier and Magneto. Showing how they met and including a Wolverine cameo. By the end Magneto becomes evil and swears vengeance on humans)
*The Uncanny X-Men* (the lineup will be pretty young with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Beast, and Ice Man. The villains will be Magneto and the brotherhood of mutants)
*Hercules: Rise of the Gods* (This film will include Thor vs Hercules and have a God of War type of plot)
*Fantastic Four 2*
*The Inhumans S4* (the season finale and will set up the upcoming Avengers movie)
*Nova*
*Avengers: Kang Dynasty*
*Avengers: Secret Wars* (Spidey will get the symbiote in this film)
Aaand that marks the end of the Multiverse Saga. I would do more but I don’t really have anything to build off of to make a Phase 7 😅 if it were up to me I’d make the next 3 phases all about the X-Men and call it *”The Mutant Saga”* but time will tell. Farewell for now ✌️
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan I’m thinking something like Serpent Society where Hydra drops a bomb that turns people practically into zombies. But I wait until Marvel announces what they’ll make it about
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan as you know, Namor is a mutant he’s the main villain for BP2. And he’ll appearances in Avengers 5&6. His solo movies will be part of the mutant saga (which won’t come out for quite a while)
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan it’s up to your imagination
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan same thing ✌️
There will be a wolverine solo film ?
11:46 No Recast T’Challa, he never died in the comics so he should be alive. Maybe in a coma or something but when awakes he’s a new actor.
No need to recast
@@TheLuthorri BS a recast is absolutely necessary. Refusing to recast just ruins the character of Black Panther. I dont understand why people dont get this. Real life should never be allowed to change established storylines. It just ruins the trejectory of the characters.
@@jessicaheller3076 who said it needed to follow comics.. we have shuri now and soon his son so we are good.. and multiverse is a thing..
@@TheLuthorri what do you mean the multiverse is a thing? the actor died
A smidge off-topic but I really wanted to get this off my chest (plus I’m kinda bored. This is how I would rewrite the the whole MCU)
*The Infinity Saga*
*Phase 1*
*Captain America: The Super Soldier* (I love RDJ’s Iron Man but I feel like it would be more appropriate to kick off the universe with the leader of the Avengers, also the movie will end with a memorial for Captain America’s supposed death, I want to save him waking up years later in a future movie)
*Iron Man* (same movie)
*The Incredible Hulk*
*Iron Man 2* (this movie will essentially be the Armor Wars storyline in the comics, with the villain being a mix of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo, also no Black Widow)
*Thor* (cut out Hawkeye)
*Ant-Man* (I find it strange that Marvel didn’t opt to put this hero in Phase 1, so I’ll do it in this rewrite. Practically a similar movie to the original except the villain will be Egghead and Hank Pym is the hero, the post credit scene will feature Steve Rogers waking up in the present. It will proceed like it did in the end of the First Avenger)
*The Avengers* (same movie but the team will consist of Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, and Wasp. And the Oscorp building will make a slight cameo in the final battle scene, as Sony was going to let Marvel put it in originally but it was cut due to time restrictions)
*Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S1* (This will be the first show in the MCU and will be set after the Avengers. Instead of Agent coulson coming back, Nick Fury will be the main character along with Maria Hill. It will be a spy espionage thriller that will lead into the Captain America sequel. Black Widow will be making her first appearance in this show as well)
*Phase 2*
*The Incredible Hulk 2* (I think it’s a shame that out of all the core Avengers, Hulk is the only one who didn’t get a trilogy. Just imagine in this universe, Universal decides to play nice and let Marvel make a trilogy. This movie will start off Phase 2 and the villains will be the Leader and Absorbing Man. Hulk will also learn how to talk in this movie, basically the same speech he had in Ragnarok. Post credit scene will tease She-Hulk)
*Thor: The Dark World* (cut down Jane’s screen time in favor of Frigga and Malekith. That way when Frigga dies it will be more impactful to the audience, and Malekith’s character can be more fleshed out)
*Iron Man 3* (more or less the same movie except Hawkeye will be the one helping Tony instead of a kid. Making his first debut in this MCU rewrite no stupid Mandarin plot-twist. Have the same actor who played Wenwu in Shang-Chi be the villain and Aldrich Killian as the secondary antagonist. Also this movie will be released around Christmas time)
*Captain America: Most Wanted* (I’m only changing the title since it feels weird to have the word “Soldier” back to back. Other than that it’s the same movie, also I’d like to add Norman Osborn (yes he exists in this universe) as a potential Hydra threat, just add to more hype)
*Guardians of the Galaxy* (same movie)
*Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S2* (this season will deal with the ramifications from CA 2 and be a “who can you trust” type of season)
*Giant-Man and the Wasp* (The main villain is Ghost and her motivations are the same as the original movie, except she’s more merciless. The mob also wants to get their hands on Pym tech for their “high buyer” This film will essentially be a heist with everyone going after Hank Pym and his tech. The post credit scene will feature Hank getting the idea to create artificial intelligence)
*Avengers: Age of Ultron* (Instead of Tony, it will be Hank who creates Ultron as in the comics. I’m also going to be taking some inspiration from Nando v Movies and have the Masters of Evil be in this film and working for Ultron. The team will consist of Ultron, Ghost, Klaw, Abomination, Crossbones, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver. The last two will be switching sides to the Avengers as in the original. Quicksilver survives in this movie. And She-Hulk also makes an appearance by the end to help the Avengers)
*Daredevil S1* (the same as in 2015)
*Phase 3*
*Captain America: Civil War* (the same movie except Crossbones doesn’t die and the main conflict will be less about Bucky being framed and more about the accords themselves. Which I’ll be renaming the Superhuman Registration Act. It will be the driving force of the movie and the reason why the heroes are fighting. Also Giant-Man will switch to his alter persona as Yellow Jacket per in the comics.
Pro Act
Iron Man
War Machine
Spider-Man
Black Panther
She-Hulk
Yellow Jacket
Vision
Against Act
Captain America
Winter Soldier
Falcon
Wasp
Daredevil
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
The movie will end the same way.
*Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D S3* (this will be the season finale, dealing with the effects of Civil War. Taskmaster will be the main villain in this season and it will also feature Hawkeye and Black Widow)
*Doctor Strange* (same film)
*The Punisher S1* (the same)
*Yellow Jacket: Quantumania* (Things will be on edge after Hank’s own wife betrayed him in favor of helping Cap during Civil War. The main villain will be M.O.D.O.K and the film will be like the AM3 except no Kang. The film will end with Hank and Janet reconciling their problems. The post credit scene will feature a tease with Scott Lang in a prison cell)
*Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2*
*Daredevil S2* (same, but some plot points lead into Homecoming)
*Spider-Man: Homecoming* (erase the AI components of the suit. Replace “MJ” and Ned with Harry and Gwen. Norman Osborn will have been revealed to be the high buyer in the Ant-Man 2, and Vulture wants revenge against him instead of Tony Stark. Aunt May doesn’t find out Peter’s identity)
*Thor: Ragnarok* (have the movie be more serious and take out the Sakaar portion. Enchantress and comic accurate Skurge will also be in this film. Hulk doesn’t appear in this film, instead I’d have Beta Ray Bill take his place in Thor’s fight for Asgard, after the war is won, Beta Ray will go out in the cosmos where he has an encounter with the planet Sakaar, setting up the next Hulk movie)
*Black Panther*
*The Inhumans S1* (completely rewrite the original 2017 and make it more inline with the rest of the universe)
*Avengers: Infinity War* (Practically nothing to change except no Hulk in this movie and War Machine dies by one of Thanos’ henchmen instead of getting dusted)
*Planet Hulk* (this is what I was saving Sakaar for, basically the same as the 2010 animated movie except Hulk leaves Earth on his accord. The end of the movie will feature the effects of Thanos’ snap)
*Ms. Marvel* (Carol Danvers keeps the Ms. Marvel name with the iconic black and gold suit. Also Fury gets his eye taken by a Kree instead of a freaking cat)
*Avengers: Endgame* (the same movie except Captain Marvel helps the Avengers time travel and in the final battle, it will be Hulk who shows up with his battle-world buddies to blow up Thanos’ ship, the rest proceeds as normal)
I don’t want this comment getting overly long, (well longer than it is already) so I split up The Infinity Saga and Multiverse Saga into two comments. Check newest first for the Multiverse Saga 👍
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan say less
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan those are coming real soon. Trust the process
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan it would be too cluttered, I wanna focus on each story at a steady pace. Otherwise what’s the point?
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan I want to try and blend the Netflix and Disney+ shows into one continuity, without the phases feeling too compacted. That way it would make it easier for audiences to follow along the timeline without feeling intimidated by the sheer size. The MCU is a massive franchise, there is still so much space for the characters you’re bringing up. Which I’ll be including soon, just trust the process 😌
@@BigComicBookandFilmFan He’s still in the MCU, just not in Age of of Ultron since his family was still alive by then
Wow that was such a great video! Really enjoyed it, good job! I wish it was more like this, and was more cohesive irl. But I do have a couple thoughts if I had to change some things, one would be to have the daredevil born again show end with a theatrical movie as the finale, maybe called daredevil and Spiderman or something with a kingpin subtitle, or maybe “the new defenders” or “the street avengers”, idfk lol. This is because I think it would be odd to have the phase end with a show to culminate everything. Though I do think daredevil should still be a show as well. The movie (though the show wouldn’t to the same degree) would include Spiderman as a main or major supporting character, and also have kate bishop’s Hawkeye, echo, and possibly others like black cat if she was in Spiderman 4 in this version. And how that would work is I would also maybe take some of the street level story projects that you had in phase 5 and put it in phase 4 so that it would all be in one phase, making that daredevil finale movie essentially be the “avengers” to the saga, tying everything together. And yeah I suppose maybe having no way way home either a little earlier and then Spiderman 4 being before the daredevil movie would be good, and Spiderman 4 could maybe have tombstone and scorpicorn and stuff working for kingpin but kingpin isn’t the main villain, just in the shadows. And yeah I think echo is a good idea as well, but again in phase 4 to make it all culminate to the daredevil finale movie. Yes this would make the phase be longer, but I think that could be fine, and you could move some of the other movies unrelated to it (not all of them) to phase 5. And yeah. I also briefly thought as I was watching this video that no way home should have been Spiderman 4 in this, because then Spiderman 3 can lead up to the daredevil movie, and so he can go to street level right away and not have no way home until phase 5, although when I got thinking about it I realized we still need to fix his identity being revealed from FFH, so NWH works to do that (among furthering the multiverse plot of course). But you could just undo that in a different way in a Spiderman 3 or just delete that post credit scene from FFH (though that is the previous phase, but it is the last scene). And this street level stuff wouldn’t now completely end tho, just to not have the phase feel too detached, so maybe daredevil would have another season in phase 5 or 6 (with a different villain), and maybe echo or Hawkeye as well, and then Spiderman would also have at least one more movie, so either in phase 5 or 6. Though this street level stuff wouldn’t have another crossover event, they would mostly be separate, but maybe would have some characters crossing over between these shows/movies. And all of them would be in secret wars and maybe TKD. So yeah lol, those are my ideas.
I also feel like if I were to do this I would add in another captain America movie after TFATWS, probably in phase 5 or 6. Honestly tho TFATWS could probably be renamed to cap 4, and then the next would be cap 5. And then I would also add in another avengers movie in probably phase 5, so before the kang dynasty. But I would make this movie pretty separate to the overall multiverse saga plot. Though maybe tying into Captain America 4 and 5 potentially, but it wouldn’t have to. And then this avengers movie’s main purpose would be establishing the new avengers team, because I don’t think we would have time for that in kang dynasty (now avengers 6). And yeah the villain could be any villain tbh, like it would be similar to how Age of Ultron had a different threat all together. But yes with maybe some minor multiverse tie-ins. I also would add a sequel in likely phase 5 for Shang chi, and for phase 5 or 6 add a black panther 3, Doctor strange 3, and probably a Spiderman 6 if we do what I said with phase 4. So yeah more sequels for sure. And yeah so those are my thoughts about what I would change about that video. Lol I know this was super long, I’m sorry 😂. And yeah so those are my thoughts about what I would change. But these are just my ideas, I truly really, really enjoyed your video, great job! Just subscribed.
I ain't reading allat
Oh wow, CREATING the multiverse is SUCH a cool idea actually😮
you had me when you said incursions should depend on the power level of the infiltrator
a villain killing everyone is not the only way to show power and strength. kang’s power comes from the fact that he is infinite. you kill one and one million more show up right after and at least ONE of those knows how to beat you. thats what makes him a great big bad. we don’t need Thanos 2.0 or Stronger Thanos From The Future. letting kang die and then constantly reappear stronger than before is actually far more interesting and terrifying. there was maybe one or two solid ideas in this video, but for the most part it’s not good. i’m glad we got the cluttered story we got because you omitted some really important characters
I agree with this! Quantity over Quality in terms of power, i like it!
nice vid bro. liked and subbed. keep it up. 1k on the way!
Thank you!
I really like most of the theories that have been mentioned.
Nice approach I agree with most of the things you said. However, some things does not make sense. Furthermore, Guardians of the Galaxy as introducing high evolutionary could be the base for the mutant saga and it seems more connected making it fit perfectly.
I wish Nightmare would've stayed in the original script
If I may make a suggestion for Wakanda forever: since mutants will be introduced in that film, what if the end credit scene has Nakia revealing herself like be storm?
I theorize the new script, involving the ScarletWitch’s death, might be changed, like for instance she might still be alive.
I think you should prewrite all of the movies and tv shows in your Multiverse Saga Rewrite.
They could have fixed the eternals problem by making them be kidnapped by big boy before the events of endgame
Interesting ideas
This is amazing
Thank you
Ive watched way better rewrites than this one. This rewrite was not good at all.
@@jessicaheller3076who’s do you recommend?
Pls you have to do phase 7 with a new saga
Bro please make a phase 7-9 please everyone would love it
Nah this rewrite was pretty lackluster imo. I dont think this guy has the creativity or the storytelling capability to do anything great with the MCU.
The first project should’ve been falcon and winter solider rebranded into a film called captain America and winter solider which should’ve directly lead into scarlet witch and nwh
Can you do what ifs from the 616 comics or no? Because I have a what if idea from that.
Sure. Shoot with the idea!
@@LewisFanFiction what if Spider-Man got black cat pregnant In the 616 unverse. I know that black cats kid was not real in the ps4 game but this time it is.
Heres the thing with the multiverse saga. They FINALLY owned all the Marvel properties and had a partnership for Spiderman. They had all the potential to slowly incorporate all the Marvel movies outside the MCU (Spidermen, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Blade, Daredevil, Etc) to set up Secret Wars but instead they just made every hero a woman 😂
Very interesting 👌
I am a marvel fan and I like to see more mcu movies and series in the mcu!
I want Rachel McAdams cast as Clea so badly…………….
Dawn....of....dynasty....
Hey listen..
@@LewisFanFiction Dawn...of.....Dy...nasty
Will this video get updated any time soon?
I like parts of this, but I really think introducing the X-men will add way too much
Could you do a what if marvle had all the rights from the beginning, I would love to see what you would do, have a great day Lewis.
So your version of Secret Wars is based on the 90's Spider-Man cartoon ?
But dormamu is literally in his own universe so the first doctor strange doesn't necessarily work at the climax
Removing Yelena😢😢😢😢
No relevance. This video is old.
ngl but I'd chose the original phase 4 than this rewrite
Are you gonna make phase 7 ?
I like your rewrite but I LOVED The Eternals tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🙏
The reality will be they need a rewrite phase one all the way up to phase five because they are missing key superheroes that never been brought out when it came to The Avengers and they were in the Avengers comic books but they weren't in the movies other Avengers nor was they mentioned
because they didnt have the rights to them at the time
Bro entirely forgot about Moon Knight 💀
Nah Moon Knight was ass aint gonna lie
@@LewisFanFiction its the execution that was ass. Not the character itself.
bro u forgot thor
i feel like it has potential to be crazy, but they kinda doing it wrong with all the shows and stuff
For Shang-Chi, here's a rewrite: th-cam.com/video/aNSG8FsgAT8/w-d-xo.html
nah they should have killed off everyone exept antman in the quantumania movie
In the comics the avengers formed because of antman Thor/Loki and hulk. So I’d probably have them be the big three of the multiverse saga, and I’d have them at the forefront. Id have the stories of Thor and hulk set up higher powers of the marvel universe, with the pantheon of gods (I’d also have Thor return to the nine realms as I feel all those other worlds seemingly just got forgotten, Asgard had them under their care or protection, whatever happened to all of them?) Thors birth in the comics involving being brought back to life with the Phoenix force, and you can see what else that would set up. Then with Hulk you have the one below all and I’d explore the fact that bruce and hulk are basically immortal as Hulk will always save Bruce from death. The hulk film would pretty much adapt Immortal Hulk. But I’d mainly use Hulk to reintroduce the idea of mutations. Antman would be the only one at the end of the phase who learns the great dangers that could be on the way regarding kang and the multiverse. You have cosmic with Thor, monsters and mutants with hulk, and then the multiverse and return of the avengers/ formation of the new avengers with ant man.
So they’d be the big three, with the next four new avengers filling the rest of phase four and they would mainly reestablish the current state of the mcu with black panther captain marvel and Spider-Man doctor strange and guardians. then have a few new hero movies like eternals and shang chi and nova.
I like the idea of more civil war type movies replacing the avengers movies as buffer until the introductions of the x men and fantastic four, where it’s an event but based around one character. so at the end of phase four antman would have the “big avengers” movie, but he wouldn’t have the avengers. he’d just be the first to fight kang. Fantastic four would also be the big anticipated movie that I would put at the very end of phase four. This phase will be called The Saga of Eternity and doctor strange, again near the end of the phase (I’d have him disappear from the world for the entire phase because he’s struggling with the fact he traded the lives of Tony Stark and black widow for the entire universe), he will cause eternity to be killed which will destabilize the universe and/or the multiverse. There will also be a small twist of sorts that the destabilization of the mcu started when thanos and the avengers messed with the infinity stones, especially with thanos destroying the infinity stones.
Phase Five would be called The Dark Phoenix Saga but it wouldn’t be Jean Grey going crazy, it would purely set up the multiversal power and force that is the Phoenix force and will help in the multiverse war (most likely just have Jean Grey eventually being possessed by the Phoenix be a good thing) event movies would be Thor, the xmen (solo mutant films would build up to the xmen movie with namor, Scarlet Witch, and Deadpool 3), and a fantastic four sequel. Kang variants will pop up like Rama tut but that whole kang dynasty matter will be resolved at the end of phase five only for the real multiversal threat of the beyonders to take over as the main villains for phase six. And then with phase six, titled The Multiverse Saga you just go all out with a fifth AND SIXTH avengers movies (because we have way past moved on from The Avengers being a crazy wild "oh damn characters from different movies are coming together in ONE movie to save the world, that's so cool" thing, right? and marvel studios deserves to feel that way, they put in all that work.) secret wars battle world movie, a new avengers assemble movie, an xmen dark Phoenix movie, and a very important fantastic four movie, and two more secret wars movies that soft reset and soft reboot the entire mcu with the x men and fantastic four being the only heroes who will move onto the new universe/new multiverse. I forgot to mention. The mcu will be destroyed at the end of phase five, the reason for this that due to the weakening of space and time during phase 3 and 4, the universe just breaks haha. and due to the events of the fantastic four sequel, they find out that if they want to save the mcu, then dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of universes around the mcu will be destroyed. The fantastic four choose the countless other universes over their own. but before they sacrifice the mcu, they save all of the heroes and villains of the mcu and send them across neighbouring universes in the multiverse, just so they can all stay alive and eventually bring the MCU back to life. So the multiverse saga would have everybody lost in the multiverse and have to find each other. you can see how this could lead to a battleworld situation. Why the mcu must be destroyed is because kang has some contingencies in the case he is killed. one of them being he’ll destroy your entire universe. so tha fantastic four and Doctor Doom would have to choose between saving the mcu or sacrificing it for the countless other universes that would otherwise die because of the Mcu still living, and kang made it this way somehow.
Btw this all is envisioned as if marvel studios didn’t release any films from 2019-2023 and instead let everything rest for a bit. which would be impossible but yah haha. and also the bullet will very much be bit in the way there’s no time travel or multiversal reasons for the fantastic four only just now forming, and mutants and the Charles Xavier school will always have been around. The xmen would be formed because the original xmen team form themselves because for some reason Professor x never envisioned them as a superhero team. I kind of don’t think it makes sense for Professor x to create a school and safe place for mutants, and then one day think “I’m gonna make these kids fight dangerous foes” and so that’s why people like cyclops and others will form the xmen on their own and eventually return to the guidance of professor x. It’ll be like a Peter and May situation where the parent lets the kids be superheroes because at the end of the day it’s not totally terrible they want to help the world with their gifts.
Last thing. I would most likely not even return anything to the status quo regarding iron man and captain America. For example in phase five I would make a Captain Falcon movie instead of Sam becoming Captain America, but obviously through the multiverse and time travel Steve Rogers would return and cameo during phase six. but once the reboot kicks in, Captain Falcon will still move onto the new universe as himself and the world will still recognize him as Captain Falcon. Just the world is inexplicably different in the way that Steve Rogers is around and he’s gone through some adventures that didn’t end in him getting old or dying, and he’s moved on peacefully with the shield still in his closet in case captain Falcon isnt enough moral heart and will haha. This would be the case for all of the first avengers in phase one. The only ones who would probably be truly reset as new characters is the new avengers squad like doctor strange captain marvel and antman who would all most likely die in the secret wars haha. Either that or/ and also maybe Thor and hulk would be reset to put their characters and the actors (mark ruffalo and Chris hemsworth) to rest like the infinity saga did with Tony Stark and Captain America.
The new mcu would basically be all new, all different avengers and so the first avengers, new avengers, fantastic four, and xmen can all coexist at the same time. In some ways it turns the mcu to what it should have been with the fantastic four and mutants coming first before the avengers form. The first event movie for phase seven would then be called “The Avengers Assemble” and it would be the new avengers and the first avengers coming together as one team once and for all. Jane Foster and Shehulk will stand in for Thor and hulk, and in that way they kind of act as the bridge between the two groups (they both would’ve been introduced in phase five). The fantastic four and x men would be in the movie as well, and they’d alll fight galactus. It would also be the last avengers movie for the rest of the mcu. If you want avengers after that you’re only gonna get West Coast Avengers or Young Avengers or cosmic avengers haha
Very last thing. Phase Nine would be a soft “marvel ruins” type of phase that ends with Deadpool killing the entire marvel cinematic universe, with the maker destroying the marvel cinematic multiverse entirely. Because cmon this thing has gotta end at some point right? Then you create the Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Universe and then you do johnathan hickmans secret wars in 50 years from now and it’ll be the UMCU vs the MCU haha.
2 youtu ers already made a great alternate ending to Wandavision. Your idea on the other hand would have ruined the character even more so im not down with this rewrite. I give ypur rewrite a 4 out of 10. No creativity whatsoever
which youtubers?
You forgot how they make things Woke,Dumb Down the Male characters and Mary-Sue the Female Ones,That A Big Part!
This is a great rewrite, but in my version, write off the x-men completely and save them for a new saga, so that i can insert Avengers Vs. X-Men film into that saga which will be like a build up for that. Also i think the spider-man films should slightly adapt the stories from the insomiac games, spider-man 4 for the first spider-man game in 2018, but instead of doc ock, make kraven the villan instead, and the spider-man 5, for the new spider-man 2 game which released recently, and follow the symbiote storyline in that game but instead of harry being venom, it should be eddie brock, and for spider-man 6, idk yet, but a spider-man movie in the MCU where peter retires and miles becomes the new live action MCU spider-man would be a great story to tell, only if executed greatly.
You would probably say any rewrite was better than what we got. This rewrite was one of the weakest rewrites ive seen. There are way better storytellers on youtube than this guy.
Im sorry but I hate almost everyone of your ideas. Your idea would have still ruined multiverse of madness which i think was the worst film of phase 4. One of the worst MCU Phase 4 rewrites ive seen so far.
Are you going to make phase 7 ?