I know this is a old video but I am following this guy lately. I must say that most times he doesn't do a lot of exercises .you can do that on your own. What I love is he gives you thoughts and knowledge of how how the voice works and how to apply this knowledge to singing! Awesome 👌
Anyone watching closely will notice two very important things: 1) As the range goes up, there is a very important muscular squeeze at the lower front of the larynx. (Sternothyroid/sternohyoid/cricothyroid for those interested). This is most often found through feeling or imitating a "plaintive cry"--that thing where you're very hurt but can't avoid showing it in your voice (and why the cry is found in EVERY Vocal technique). It creates laryngeal tilt which is 100% the only way to "bridge the two registers" (a useful illusion: you're "stretching twin rubber bands" in full voice done right but you feel where sympathetic resonance changes in your "high" and "low" ranges). 2) He is 100% modifying his vowels to achieve CLARITY. Here's the rub: since his larynx is tilting properly from the right muscles being used, the voice sounds "like him" through the whole range--so the modified vowels will actually sound MORE correct than if he were modifying with bad larynx technique OR not modifying in any case. This is a case study on good singing fundamentals: vowel consistency (NOT EXACTLY "speech vowels" but as the saying goes, "if it sounds good it is good"), larynx stability (NOT larynx weakness, there is obviously muscle involved even in "relaxation"), and pitch independence. Bravo
I am a classic "reacher" but I discovered what you are calling "thinning out" almost by accident. I'm still learning to control it and do it on demand but I sing a lot and I keep returning to my "reacher" roots when I sing live. So I end up losing a lot of that control. It's a viscous cycle for me.
yer you have to be constantly establishing the new muscle memory, eventually the old bad habit will die away but at first it can feel like a battle between your old voice and your new voice. It's worth sticking with though eventually the work will pay off.
dude these videos plus your e-book are soooo helpful. I'm excited for my singing future :) You finally helped me understand the larynx in relation the vowels, very cool.
nts Add a public comment... Ky Andrew No shit... this helped me out a ton and confirm something that I confronted in my own singing after classical instruction. The typical onset with classical is incredibly strong, TOO STRONG to be pliable... so when I went up into my range I felt that classic 'disconnect" around the F and would " flip" into head voice. Conversely what I noticed is when I hit a strong note above my bridge, I could carry it down into my chest, with no break and that's what made me realize that it is THAT sound which is seamless voice. So thinning out is really how you gain it. Does this sound correct..? You pointed me towards Singing Success and I started it yesterday, so I also want to say thank you for that. And once again what I'm realizing is that classical singing and natural singing are two completely different animals.
This video made so much sense Carl Thank you! By the way, Im back home for a few weeks now, and im planing on buying a 5 pack lessons from you tomorrow or something!
I can hit the notes without straining when I'm singing very quietly, but I cannot sing the same the same note with any loudness without straining. How do I get around this? Do I just keep practicing the exercises and slowly build up the volume?
I experienced a similar thing when I started to try and sing without strain. The best thing I can say here is that when you add power you have to keep the position of release consistent or in other words light and powerful when done correctly 'sit' in the same place. You will feel the muscles in your larynyx working a bit harder when you increase volume that's normal and not to be confused with strain. One of the hardest things to figure out is the difference between the correct type of tension, healthy tension and strain the two can feel very similar until your knowledge develops to a certain level.
Carl Wehden Thanks for the insight, but now that I've studied it more closely it seems like my main problem is actually that my throat is so closed down in order to hit the note that my throat simply isn't physically big enough to let enough air through, and thus not enough sound is produced (Excuse my poor/incorrect terminology, I'm really not a serious singer!) Also, it never really like I "engage" into falsetto/head voice; it feels more like I just keep going up from my normal voice and it keeps getting more closed down and quiet! I know that I must be doing something wrong, I'm just not sure what it is I guess.
Really depends where you are at but yep those outer muscles clumping up as you go higher can be a problem especially near the beginning. Feel free to email me some examples cwehden@gmail.com
Carl Wehden Thanks for the help! I'll email you some examples in a little while, but I want to practice enough to make it not quite so embarrassing :-) I really do appreciate your help though, it's nice to come across some who's eager to help for once! By the way, I believe that I have bass voice, as the lowest note I can reliably sing without "vocal fry" is E2, and the highest note I can sing with good tone and volume without straining is right around D4. I'd like to be able reach C5, but do you think this is really possible?
It's just muscle memory! It's hard for new singers to grasp this. I did 'Muh' over everything and it will thin out your resonance. I was doing it while congested and after my congestion cleared my resonance shifted upward. Why can't people grasp this? It's a simple concept.
Hello.Great vid! I cant seem to thin out.Are there anx other scales that I can do, or resources that you recommend?I dont understand the yawning feeling that you mentioned. Thanks!
Hey man! great videos you put out there! So I have a question...Do you take into account breathing with your diaphragm and the whole breath support story? Or you just breath normally? Because i am taking lessons with a local teacher, and basically she sings opera, so i think the approach is different. It involves singing with power, high volume, breath support, etc.
Ye you have to balance the amount of closure your applying with the correct amount of air flow / pressure. Contemporary singers use various levels of compression, classical singers tend to exclusively use one level of compression or in other words as singers they are more specialized.
I know this is a old video but I am following this guy lately. I must say that most times he doesn't do a lot of exercises .you can do that on your own. What I love is he gives you thoughts and knowledge of how how the voice works and how to apply this knowledge to singing! Awesome 👌
Anyone watching closely will notice two very important things:
1) As the range goes up, there is a very important muscular squeeze at the lower front of the larynx. (Sternothyroid/sternohyoid/cricothyroid for those interested). This is most often found through feeling or imitating a "plaintive cry"--that thing where you're very hurt but can't avoid showing it in your voice (and why the cry is found in EVERY Vocal technique). It creates laryngeal tilt which is 100% the only way to "bridge the two registers" (a useful illusion: you're "stretching twin rubber bands" in full voice done right but you feel where sympathetic resonance changes in your "high" and "low" ranges).
2) He is 100% modifying his vowels to achieve CLARITY. Here's the rub: since his larynx is tilting properly from the right muscles being used, the voice sounds "like him" through the whole range--so the modified vowels will actually sound MORE correct than if he were modifying with bad larynx technique OR not modifying in any case.
This is a case study on good singing fundamentals: vowel consistency (NOT EXACTLY "speech vowels" but as the saying goes, "if it sounds good it is good"), larynx stability (NOT larynx weakness, there is obviously muscle involved even in "relaxation"), and pitch independence.
Bravo
I am a classic "reacher" but I discovered what you are calling "thinning out" almost by accident. I'm still learning to control it and do it on demand but I sing a lot and I keep returning to my "reacher" roots when I sing live. So I end up losing a lot of that control. It's a viscous cycle for me.
yer you have to be constantly establishing the new muscle memory, eventually the old bad habit will die away but at first it can feel like a battle between your old voice and your new voice. It's worth sticking with though eventually the work will pay off.
This is so good. If I ever make money singing I'll need Carl's venmo. I owe this dude.
Carl is THE man.
dude these videos plus your e-book are soooo helpful. I'm excited for my singing future :) You finally helped me understand the larynx in relation the vowels, very cool.
Carl, excellent instruction. Coming back for review.🐦
A very helpful vid! I've gone through countless of TH-cam singing vids and yours are some of the best. Thank you!
+wilburs80 Great, thanks for the positive energy!
nts
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Ky Andrew
No shit... this helped me out a ton and confirm something that I confronted in my own singing after classical instruction. The typical onset with classical is incredibly strong, TOO STRONG to be pliable... so when I went up into my range I felt that classic 'disconnect" around the F and would " flip" into head voice. Conversely what I noticed is when I hit a strong note above my bridge, I could carry it down into my chest, with no break and that's what made me realize that it is THAT sound which is seamless voice. So thinning out is really how you gain it. Does this sound correct..?
You pointed me towards Singing Success and I started it yesterday, so I also want to say thank you for that. And once again what I'm realizing is that classical singing and natural singing are two completely different animals.
Good one. Thanks.
This video made so much sense Carl Thank you!
By the way, Im back home for a few weeks now, and im planing on buying a 5 pack lessons from you tomorrow or something!
Thanks for teaching how to sing high note
Brilliant♥
Thought there was a cat behind you, but it was just you in the mirror. lol
This is wonderful
Brett Manning all the time dude !
Brett is God
thx!!!
how does Roy Orbison add so much power with these high notes as in the song crying?
Plutonium you can build presence and pressure in that heady coordination just like any other type of sound
@@cwehden I haven't seen a single exercise any vocal coach demonstrating how to make this light and right voice as powerful voice at and above G#5
Why lip roll makes me airy? I can't really understand that
I can hit the notes without straining when I'm singing very quietly, but I cannot sing the same the same note with any loudness without straining. How do I get around this? Do I just keep practicing the exercises and slowly build up the volume?
I experienced a similar thing when I started to try and sing without strain. The best thing I can say here is that when you add power you have to keep the position of release consistent or in other words light and powerful when done correctly 'sit' in the same place. You will feel the muscles in your larynyx working a bit harder when you increase volume that's normal and not to be confused with strain. One of the hardest things to figure out is the difference between the correct type of tension, healthy tension and strain the two can feel very similar until your knowledge develops to a certain level.
Carl Wehden Thanks for the insight, but now that I've studied it more closely it seems like my main problem is actually that my throat is so closed down in order to hit the note that my throat simply isn't physically big enough to let enough air through, and thus not enough sound is produced (Excuse my poor/incorrect terminology, I'm really not a serious singer!)
Also, it never really like I "engage" into falsetto/head voice; it feels more like I just keep going up from my normal voice and it keeps getting more closed down and quiet! I know that I must be doing something wrong, I'm just not sure what it is I guess.
Really depends where you are at but yep those outer muscles clumping up as you go higher can be a problem especially near the beginning. Feel free to email me some examples cwehden@gmail.com
Carl Wehden Thanks for the help! I'll email you some examples in a little while, but I want to practice enough to make it not quite so embarrassing :-) I really do appreciate your help though, it's nice to come across some who's eager to help for once!
By the way, I believe that I have bass voice, as the lowest note I can reliably sing without "vocal fry" is E2, and the highest note I can sing with good tone and volume without straining is right around D4. I'd like to be able reach C5, but do you think this is really possible?
It's just muscle memory! It's hard for new singers to grasp this. I did 'Muh' over everything and it will thin out your resonance. I was doing it while congested and after my congestion cleared my resonance shifted upward. Why can't people grasp this? It's a simple concept.
I am new to your videos and wondering how all these exercises and techniques apply to singing?
heyyy, whats the cot of your skype lessonss?
hey dude, £50 per hour check out my website or drop me an email for details carljohnfranz@gmail.com
What do you mean when you say "on top of it"?
Hello.Great vid!
I cant seem to thin out.Are there anx other
scales that I can do, or resources that you recommend?I dont understand the yawning feeling that you mentioned.
Thanks!
Hey man! great videos you put out there!
So I have a question...Do you take into account breathing with your diaphragm and the whole breath support story? Or you just breath normally?
Because i am taking lessons with a local teacher, and basically she sings opera, so i think the approach is different. It involves singing with power, high volume, breath support, etc.
Ye you have to balance the amount of closure your applying with the correct amount of air flow / pressure. Contemporary singers use various levels of compression, classical singers tend to exclusively use one level of compression or in other words as singers they are more specialized.
thanks for the clarification! It is good to know, because local teachers dont teach these stuffs!
Do you have to do the lip roll? I can't so that at all
Dude do you have a Skype I would like to see if you could help me with a problem I can't really explain.
Th3 Raze Yep feel free to drop me an email: carlwehden@gmail.com
0:43 made me yawn
Pressing in. Is it like yawning kind of sensation?
Abe Popkillowski Yep you've got it :)
Carl Wehden Thank you very much. Great video by the way.