0:40:59 personally I don't disagree on Garp being a coward, but I don't think it's typical cowardice. I think he realized he couldn't do anything because the Celestial Dragons still hold all the power, and that's why he puts so much effort into recruits and marines he sees the potential for change in (Kuzan and Koby being the main two I can think of). And he wanted them to be Marines because if they became strong and good Marines their history wouldn't matter as much, because both Luffy and Ace could have been executed as kids just for who their dads are. In this world the sins of the father are the sins of the son and as innocent kids they would have inherited the punishment the Government wants to give their fathers. Garp couldn't bring the change that was needed so he figured he could safeguard the kids by getting them to join up but because of how hard he was it just pushed them further away. He's a coward for giving up. I firmly believe all 3 men of the Monkey family have the same dream, Garp wanted to fix it from the inside and give people more freedom, Dragon wants to burn the system down and rebuild it as a more free world, and Luffy is literally freedom incarnate doing as he pleases and it just so happens to bring freedom to whoever he comes across.
I don't know I know Ace would have been killed for sure but I don't think Luffy would have gotten killed because I believe garp's recommendations as well as his hero title would completely offset his father's negative title
@@nbotfsquad3096 if Ace worked up to Vice Admiral, it wouldn't have mattered. And Luffy would actually be in for it worse than Ace, being that Ace's dad was executed over 20 years ago and over 20 years ago Luffy's dad started his war on the world government and celestial dragons. Luffy's dad is still fighting and they would likely fear he's a plant by the revolutionary army
@@alexjfranco the thing is luFFY'S grandfather actively still works for the Marines as the HERO I'm saying that would kind of offset his dad to where luffy's power and dedication could over come it ...ace has no such BLOOD relatives they would have killed him on the SPOT they LITERALLY said that at Marineford "his birth signed his death warrant" garps recommendation wouldn't hold as much weight for ace or he could have OPENLY adopted him and JUST said he making a officer out of him like colby... They look at Rodger is more of an issue than dragon cause the SAME people are in the revolutionary army in GENERAL BUT Rodger created MULTIPLE pirate WAVES dragon wouldn't even BE a problem if not for Rodger cause they could focus on dragon without all the PIRATES EVERYWHERE...I agree with you take i see it as possible i ONLY argue ace having no family TRULY had the deck stacked against him he had 2 brothers thats it if he didn't join white beard only Luffy would have shown up garp was willing and ended up WATCHING HIM DIE and did NOTHING about it lets not ASSUME grap would have had his back the truth is GARP is ASSUMING they could be safe in the Marines and ASSUMING the Marines would over look their past one they were in but that would have ONLY been true for Luffy we talking about the same organization protecting that the celestial dragons did at God valley 🤧 years it's a MAYBE for Luffy IF garp's title and Luffy's relationship to him forces their hand they could go down the "dragon was an outlier route" but wasn't NO saving ace they killed an ENTIRE GENERATION OF UNBORNS looking FOR HIM...
I love the idea of kumas lasting religious belief in nika actually brings the gomu gomu no mi into existence. For him having such a horrible life to and it resulting in making such a difference to the world would be poetry man i need that to be true
Sabo just pulled a Garp. Sabo didn’t kill King Cobra but it helps his mission. Garp’s mission is to reform the Marines from within. The Hero of the Maines Title helps be the role model to young marines. Garp’s origin story is going to go so hard and fill the gap.
I think I would believe this more if we saw more from Garp of trying to actually do some reform. Because what has he actually done other than just train other people to take his place and be stuck in the same cycle? The whole "Sword" idea is nothing but fan theory. Garp has mostly just done what he wants with not much thought about the future until it was too late and then he starts saying "leave it up to the new generation" rather than actually DOING something in his OWN generation.
@@IreneShardaForeverwhat's frustrating about Garp is that everyone around him has been radicalized against the marines. People he's guided all end up hating the very organization he champions. What does he see in the marines that makes him belive they are redeemable? If everyone gives up on the marines entirely, the organization would collapse and if it collapses the world will be engulfed by chaos. The Marines protect more than the Celestials hurt it.
In real life, almost every successful revolution that has ever happened had some fraction of the standing army split off and join the revolution. Its totally possible that Garp being involved with the creation of sword was anticipating this and will lead that charge.
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Lol Larry was a little too much in his feels here. Garp let ace suffer the consequences of his actions. We will see what happened at the end of the god valley incident and have more context to garp.
What about all the other things that Garp also let go because of his duty? Like the killing of all the babies? Was he okay with that too? I can see Ace, though I can never agree with it. Even if a person is doing what you think is wrong, that doesn't make them any less your family. If you felt like that, then just disown them completely, Don't bother claiming them as your family. The title basically becomes meaningless in that regard.
I wonder if Aokiji beats Akainu and becomes Fleet Admiral instead, how much would actually change. That's the only reason Aokiji left in the 1st place, because he lost a fight. He saw what happened on Ohara and still accepted the position of Admiral.
Yeah, Luffy vs Don Krieg was one of my favorites! If I was in that universe I'd have done things similar with how Krieg had his gear and weapons set up. Krieg had such a versatile setup and skillset, that could be used in so many different situations.
The fact Garp didn’t teach Luffy any Haki is crazy to me even if he wanted to be a pirate and not a marine he should want him to be stronger then most people in the pirate world especially since he knows the danger
I don't consider Kid to be a "King" but yet, he has Conq's Haki. I find Trafalgar to be more impressive than Kidd, and he doesn't have Conq's Haki not to say he deserves/should have it it, he doesn't have the qualities. but he's still more impressive than Kidd imo.
ODA already stated that blackbeard will was influenced by rocks so I don't think blackbeard will be influenced by character like buggy I think rocks is just a evil charismatic guy like doflamingo and blackbeard
Garp is so determined to turn the govt to the symbol of protection for the people he gets conq. With that, he's so hell-bent on doing it his way anything his kids do outside of doing it the marine way is wrong. That's why he takes out pirates because that's the marine way, yet he still has rules he follows and wont break. Willing to watch Ace die as a pirate but not a victim. Ace was dying with what he wanted to be...lava boy ruined that and broke garp's rules. Thought dump complete.
Garp was powerful enough to single handedly kill half of the higher up Celestial Dragons. He could've done at least that, and the world would be infinitely better for it.
My theory is that in god valley the rock pirates split up, big mom went for making a big army of her sons and daughters, gloriosa escaped to amazon lily, shiki built his own crew, kaido left too, and white beard, maybe thats why all of them are alive except captain jhon and rocks (from what sengoku said), captain jhon just didnt have a place to go, and rocks wanted something in godvalley, also in the latest episode its shown that black beard is wants the world, maybe rocks was a blackbeard that got betrayed by his crew
2:16:05 Do you guys thinks its possible the Pain Vegapunk showed Bonnie was the pain of Kumas past and he left it so he coupd do what he needed to do 2:20:00 also its possible that the bucaneers where the cause if DFs coming to fruition in the past through their belifs of Freedom 2:24:00 i do think its possible that the 2 we saw are the kids form big moms backstory same gas mask and simaler hair and its possible they are celastial dragons that where abondoned by their family who couldve tried to rebel aginst the Celestial Dragons sins And as far as Ginne is Luffys mom and Bonnie was a clone its possible that Ginne had luffy and then was captured or killed by the Celestial Dragons and that drove dragon foward like the SChat said and then later was cloned by vegapunk ti make Jewlery Bonnie i kinda say this cuz Vegapunk keeps refering to her like she was a child just recently born so i think he cloned bonnie and Kuma raised her alongside Vegapunk 2:52:00 I think the Thousand Sunny will be damaged and Franky will use the Giant Robot to repair it building a ship he can ride into battle before that i think hell use it to box Saturn
Ain’t no way Larry discredits garp then says kuzan did the right move… who attempting to do the same thing garp did, he just lost the fight then decided to leave. More context later on may give more perspective, but as it stands, he did not leave because of the world government, he left because of akainu
Ay low key the way WB acted or talked it was like Zoro w luffy in those second captain like moments, maybe a bit more extreme but I could see rocks being right above WB and obviously makes him above everyone else significantly
This is why you watch multiple youtubers over the same genre. You get takes like Garp. Out of 6 youtubers I watch on One Piece, does anyone have a different opinion on said character. Like everyone always has the same Katakuri, Zoro or Kaido takes.
Larry needs to relax about Rocks. So because he is basically a pirate uber driver that went to god valley he gets credit for the strongest characters we have seen up until now
This hasn't been confirmed but i do think that they show rocks in this chapter 1096. if you look in the background when they are showing all of the rocks pirates you see some in air in the background and you could tell he is holding a three claw weapon and i believe that is rocks because you see in that panel that white beard is tell rocks not to go ahead. you really cant tell imo but that is me guessing that is rocks.
I think there are no strong celestial dragons. They are too inbred and coddled to be strong. My theory is that the Gods nights are adopted into families so they will have a strong member for protection and to represent them in games like on God valley. Morher caramel having the kids that are adopted by the WG makes sense as test subjects but also maybe they are specifically chosen by strength to be adopted into CG families
But celestial dragons have the genes to be strong most of them lack the ambition and discipline to be strong, just look at doflamingo he's was put through a lot of hardship and he grew into a strong warrior with conquerors haki.
I think Oda should’ve Ace Whitebeard Rodger Pedro n Oden being like watch Luffy become joyboy n his adventures, have them in one piece heaven drinking sake n telling jokes
I think Garp didnt care about Rocks because thats what the celestial dragons deserve for whatever it is they stole also disrupts their school outing, Roger is Garps Bff he just wanted to see his friend Roger probably convinced Garp to tag team Rocks because he probably didn't want rocks to get what he came for
I don't think Larry's Boxing vs. MMA analogy works as well as he thinks it does 😂 Swords/Blades in OP tend to be the most powerful weapons since you have ppl who just dodge bullets or are unaffected by them, so being proficient in swordsmanship is like being a Navy SEAL vs an MMA fighter. Sure if you limit the rules of engagement to purely hand to hand, the MMA guys destroys but if you make it a real battle with no holds barred, the SEAL is gonna kill the MMA fighter dead
I agree with everything except Garp finally decided to do something and actually achieving it. He saved Koby. After Ace's death and after Dadan make him realize the importance of family he finally did it. Garp might have failed a lot of times when it mattered the most but at least he finally learned and won.
So whenever it was said that we havent seen any celestial dragons or anyone affiliated with the world government protect the people what about Myosgard defending the fishmen
the garp slander is crazy all the points are why didnt the give up all his authority as a hero of the marines, and fight a fight he is guarenteed to lose. garp is not just trying to beat people up, he wants to create change within the marines and lead the next generation to be better than the corrupt marines he has seen. garp wasnt the one to kill the babies, and its not like he could have prevented everything or even known about alot of events. at the end of the day im just confused way garp is getting hate for not killing himself to fight the world which wouldnt do ANYthing in the long term.
and garp didnt just do nothing in the marines, you guys make it seem like all pirates are good guys, but its literally the oposite the only good pirates are luffy and ig law, even kid killed innocent people and overall pirates are a more constant evil than the marines. not every action the marines make is killing people, its basically just the celestial dragons.
Thing is it’s too late, he took too long to fight for change. Out of all those terrible events he only found one person who even fits his ideal and that’s Koby. But the waiting in peace, fighting for “change” w/o even doing any change doesn’t make sense.
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Garp is definitely trying to change the marines from the inside but the thing is how long is he gonna try for. the closet he has gotten to his “goal” is Koby. Koby is the ideal marine He expects. It just took too long for it too happen. All those years and now you finally find one person who fits you’re ideals. I get Garp’s point but sitting there through all those terrible events and plus more is quite cowardly. He hasn’t really fought for change until now.
I've always disliked Garp for many of the reasons that were state. The Brother spit the Absolute Truth! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏👌👌👌 Garp was never a Hero. Oda has been tellin' us the whole Story. Rocks ain't Evil. I've said it for five years. Roger ain't a Good Man. He's Selfish. Luffy is a Hybrid of Rocks and Roger. Jack is a Fishman. Linlin was associated with a few Fishmen.
I think Fujitora started sword, I don't see Garp having the guts to start sword. Fujitora at dressrosa bowed to the king and apologized on TV, Fujitora stopped the warlord system, Fujitora done more than anything Garp done. Freed slaves from the celestials, I see Fujitora doing what Garp should have done
What a pure delusional take you had . It wasnt fujitora it was gorossei who abolished warlord system and if garp was coward would kong send garp to fight roger and rocks . And due to garp marines got prominent fighters like aokiji and koby
@@RishikPandey-fw5dw not delusional at all, Fujitora was the admiral who allowed doflamingo to get away with what's been going on. Fujitora was the one who embarrassed the navy, akainu the fleet admiral even talked to fujitora about the situation he caused and now the warlord system is dismantled. You named the marines my guy one went with Blackbeard and Koby is still too young to make a difference. Fujitora still has done more in his time with the Marines then Garp, but your free to have your own opinion
@@brianq6244 nah bruh fujitora is good marine for sure but saying has done more than garp is just wrong if garp wasnt necessary why would he be offered the position of admiral despite knowing he openly disrespects celestial dragons . He was the one who fought major wars . Didnt sengoku mentioned garp was still in marine despite disrespecting CD due to his achievements and didnt chinjao and shakky the former rocks pirates garp was monster. The only marine who could surpass garp in terms of achievements and strength maybe akainu not fujitora
@@RishikPandey-fw5dw take strength out of it, no one can take that away, but clearly strength isn't what's gonna change the way the marines go about things. Turning a blind eye to what the celestials do, the corruption,slavery,racism is what I'm getting at. Fujitora has done more in trying to change these things compared to Garp. Yes Garp should probably be fleet admiral but he didn't except it because of the celestials, he had the strength to bring it down
Garp is a hard character to defend at this point lol. If we’re being honest everyone is basically hoping that he is playing a long con or planning a future coup against the celestial dragons. I feel confident though that if he’s NOT planning a coup people will finally recognize he’s not a good person and will most likely hate his character. Unless you like rooting for the villains, it will be impossible to defend his actions otherwise IMO. I also really liked Larry’s take on him being a coward when it comes to him protecting his family, specifically when it concerns the government and celestial dragons. Garp has tried it his way and hasn’t really accomplished anything, I understand what he’s trying to do but it doesn’t work and probably never will. Garp’s refusal to take anything serious has slowly made me lose respect for him over the years. What concerns me most about his character is the only explanation for his bizarre behavior would be a future coup attempt…unfortunately I doubt Garp is smart enough to pull that off, let alone be patient enough to orchestrate a 20-30 year old plan.
i honestly feel lik garp cud see sumthin different in ace n luffy evn as kids n thats y he wantd them to b marines cuz he felt lik they cud do wut he cudnt ... n i feel lik dragon and garp r workin towards the same goal from different points of view .... plus we cant forget that ace was saved n then he himself made a terrible choice n he went back n got himself killed
Garp is an incomplete character that's how oda writes his characters if we judge them prematurely they won't make sense but time will tell as of now garp is not him
Why are we still acting like Garp watched the Marines kill ace .. he pulled his punch against Luffy TO HELP SAVE ACE. Everyone likes to focus on the results of MarineFord without actually mentioning everything in totality. End of the day , Ace Killed Ace
Rocks is the previous holder of the Gomu Gomu. The reason why the gov had it at the end is because Rocks was killed in God valley and they captured it with fruit on the island.
Dont you think Wb,big mom or Kaido who had direct meetup with luffy would once mention that? Even if we assume Xebec had g5 unlocked, Why would kaido be so surprised about it? Doesn’t makr any sense
0:40:59 personally I don't disagree on Garp being a coward, but I don't think it's typical cowardice. I think he realized he couldn't do anything because the Celestial Dragons still hold all the power, and that's why he puts so much effort into recruits and marines he sees the potential for change in (Kuzan and Koby being the main two I can think of). And he wanted them to be Marines because if they became strong and good Marines their history wouldn't matter as much, because both Luffy and Ace could have been executed as kids just for who their dads are. In this world the sins of the father are the sins of the son and as innocent kids they would have inherited the punishment the Government wants to give their fathers. Garp couldn't bring the change that was needed so he figured he could safeguard the kids by getting them to join up but because of how hard he was it just pushed them further away. He's a coward for giving up. I firmly believe all 3 men of the Monkey family have the same dream, Garp wanted to fix it from the inside and give people more freedom, Dragon wants to burn the system down and rebuild it as a more free world, and Luffy is literally freedom incarnate doing as he pleases and it just so happens to bring freedom to whoever he comes across.
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I don't know I know Ace would have been killed for sure but I don't think Luffy would have gotten killed because I believe garp's recommendations as well as his hero title would completely offset his father's negative title
@@nbotfsquad3096 if Ace worked up to Vice Admiral, it wouldn't have mattered. And Luffy would actually be in for it worse than Ace, being that Ace's dad was executed over 20 years ago and over 20 years ago Luffy's dad started his war on the world government and celestial dragons. Luffy's dad is still fighting and they would likely fear he's a plant by the revolutionary army
@@alexjfranco the thing is luFFY'S grandfather actively still works for the Marines as the HERO I'm saying that would kind of offset his dad to where luffy's power and dedication could over come it ...ace has no such BLOOD relatives they would have killed him on the SPOT they LITERALLY said that at Marineford "his birth signed his death warrant" garps recommendation wouldn't hold as much weight for ace or he could have OPENLY adopted him and JUST said he making a officer out of him like colby... They look at Rodger is more of an issue than dragon cause the SAME people are in the revolutionary army in GENERAL BUT Rodger created MULTIPLE pirate WAVES dragon wouldn't even BE a problem if not for Rodger cause they could focus on dragon without all the PIRATES EVERYWHERE...I agree with you take i see it as possible i ONLY argue ace having no family TRULY had the deck stacked against him he had 2 brothers thats it if he didn't join white beard only Luffy would have shown up garp was willing and ended up WATCHING HIM DIE and did NOTHING about it lets not ASSUME grap would have had his back the truth is GARP is ASSUMING they could be safe in the Marines and ASSUMING the Marines would over look their past one they were in but that would have ONLY been true for Luffy we talking about the same organization protecting that the celestial dragons did at God valley 🤧 years it's a MAYBE for Luffy IF garp's title and Luffy's relationship to him forces their hand they could go down the "dragon was an outlier route" but wasn't NO saving ace they killed an ENTIRE GENERATION OF UNBORNS looking FOR HIM...
I love the idea of kumas lasting religious belief in nika actually brings the gomu gomu no mi into existence. For him having such a horrible life to and it resulting in making such a difference to the world would be poetry man i need that to be true
Except be hen u remember the fruit had been avoiding the government for over 800 years
Sabo just pulled a Garp. Sabo didn’t kill King Cobra but it helps his mission. Garp’s mission is to reform the Marines from within. The Hero of the Maines Title helps be the role model to young marines. Garp’s origin story is going to go so hard and fill the gap.
I think I would believe this more if we saw more from Garp of trying to actually do some reform. Because what has he actually done other than just train other people to take his place and be stuck in the same cycle? The whole "Sword" idea is nothing but fan theory. Garp has mostly just done what he wants with not much thought about the future until it was too late and then he starts saying "leave it up to the new generation" rather than actually DOING something in his OWN generation.
Garp hasn't done jackshit. Gtfo with that reform the marines from the inside bs
@@IreneShardaForeverwhat's frustrating about Garp is that everyone around him has been radicalized against the marines. People he's guided all end up hating the very organization he champions. What does he see in the marines that makes him belive they are redeemable? If everyone gives up on the marines entirely, the organization would collapse and if it collapses the world will be engulfed by chaos. The Marines protect more than the Celestials hurt it.
In real life, almost every successful revolution that has ever happened had some fraction of the standing army split off and join the revolution. Its totally possible that Garp being involved with the creation of sword was anticipating this and will lead that charge.
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Garp is like a prototype Warlord
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Lol Larry was a little too much in his feels here. Garp let ace suffer the consequences of his actions. We will see what happened at the end of the god valley incident and have more context to garp.
What about all the other things that Garp also let go because of his duty? Like the killing of all the babies? Was he okay with that too? I can see Ace, though I can never agree with it. Even if a person is doing what you think is wrong, that doesn't make them any less your family. If you felt like that, then just disown them completely, Don't bother claiming them as your family. The title basically becomes meaningless in that regard.
lol garp didnt, if garp was Ok with Ace suffering the consequences of his action he wouldn't have been wavering in the battle.
I wonder if Aokiji beats Akainu and becomes Fleet Admiral instead, how much would actually change. That's the only reason Aokiji left in the 1st place, because he lost a fight. He saw what happened on Ohara and still accepted the position of Admiral.
He thought he could make more positive reforms as FA
Yeah, Luffy vs Don Krieg was one of my favorites! If I was in that universe I'd have done things similar with how Krieg had his gear and weapons set up.
Krieg had such a versatile setup and skillset, that could be used in so many different situations.
The fact Garp didn’t teach Luffy any Haki is crazy to me even if he wanted to be a pirate and not a marine he should want him to be stronger then most people in the pirate world especially since he knows the danger
I don't consider Kid to be a "King" but yet, he has Conq's Haki.
I find Trafalgar to be more impressive than Kidd, and he doesn't have Conq's Haki not to say he deserves/should have it it, he doesn't have the qualities.
but he's still more impressive than Kidd imo.
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Damn Larry went innnnn on that Garp Take. I agree
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ODA already stated that blackbeard will was influenced by rocks so I don't think blackbeard will be influenced by character like buggy I think rocks is just a evil charismatic guy like doflamingo and blackbeard
Garp is so determined to turn the govt to the symbol of protection for the people he gets conq. With that, he's so hell-bent on doing it his way anything his kids do outside of doing it the marine way is wrong. That's why he takes out pirates because that's the marine way, yet he still has rules he follows and wont break. Willing to watch Ace die as a pirate but not a victim. Ace was dying with what he wanted to be...lava boy ruined that and broke garp's rules. Thought dump complete.
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28:23 Garp and Roger are from the East blue. Compared to rocks as we know almost nothing at all about him
Garp was powerful enough to single handedly kill half of the higher up Celestial Dragons. He could've done at least that, and the world would be infinitely better for it.
if Dragon comes into the story properly in 1100, a full 1000 chapters since he showed up in Loguetown... i don't even know man
My theory is that in god valley the rock pirates split up, big mom went for making a big army of her sons and daughters, gloriosa escaped to amazon lily, shiki built his own crew, kaido left too, and white beard, maybe thats why all of them are alive except captain jhon and rocks (from what sengoku said), captain jhon just didnt have a place to go, and rocks wanted something in godvalley, also in the latest episode its shown that black beard is wants the world, maybe rocks was a blackbeard that got betrayed by his crew
2:16:05 Do you guys thinks its possible the Pain Vegapunk showed Bonnie was the pain of Kumas past and he left it so he coupd do what he needed to do
2:20:00 also its possible that the bucaneers where the cause if DFs coming to fruition in the past through their belifs of Freedom
2:24:00 i do think its possible that the 2 we saw are the kids form big moms backstory same gas mask and simaler hair and its possible they are celastial dragons that where abondoned by their family who couldve tried to rebel aginst the Celestial Dragons sins
And as far as Ginne is Luffys mom and Bonnie was a clone its possible that Ginne had luffy and then was captured or killed by the Celestial Dragons and that drove dragon foward like the SChat said and then later was cloned by vegapunk ti make Jewlery Bonnie i kinda say this cuz Vegapunk keeps refering to her like she was a child just recently born so i think he cloned bonnie and Kuma raised her alongside Vegapunk
2:52:00 I think the Thousand Sunny will be damaged and Franky will use the Giant Robot to repair it building a ship he can ride into battle before that i think hell use it to box Saturn
Ain’t no way Larry discredits garp then says kuzan did the right move… who attempting to do the same thing garp did, he just lost the fight then decided to leave.
More context later on may give more perspective, but as it stands, he did not leave because of the world government, he left because of akainu
1:10:42 I think Saturn got ash babyed...
So xebec is roger greatest adversary butt....roger found the one piece 😭😂 he basically buggy with heart and power.
Ginny is 13, 4 years older than Kuma
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Ay low key the way WB acted or talked it was like Zoro w luffy in those second captain like moments, maybe a bit more extreme but I could see rocks being right above WB and obviously makes him above everyone else significantly
Garp is Smoker!! Duh!! But TWG made sure they didn't make the same mistake as they did with Roger and kept a lot of info about Luffy under wraps.
This is why you watch multiple youtubers over the same genre. You get takes like Garp. Out of 6 youtubers I watch on One Piece, does anyone have a different opinion on said character.
Like everyone always has the same Katakuri, Zoro or Kaido takes.
Larry needs to relax about Rocks. So because he is basically a pirate uber driver that went to god valley he gets credit for the strongest characters we have seen up until now
This hasn't been confirmed but i do think that they show rocks in this chapter 1096. if you look in the background when they are showing all of the rocks pirates you see some in air in the background and you could tell he is holding a three claw weapon and i believe that is rocks because you see in that panel that white beard is tell rocks not to go ahead. you really cant tell imo but that is me guessing that is rocks.
The Mihawk slander and downplay is nuts
The real question is why would Rocks lose sight of their goal
No way Larry just said Floyd is a better boxer then Iron Mike
i can def see rocks being a Buggy and luffy mix
I think there are no strong celestial dragons. They are too inbred and coddled to be strong. My theory is that the Gods nights are adopted into families so they will have a strong member for protection and to represent them in games like on God valley.
Morher caramel having the kids that are adopted by the WG makes sense as test subjects but also maybe they are specifically chosen by strength to be adopted into CG families
But celestial dragons have the genes to be strong most of them lack the ambition and discipline to be strong, just look at doflamingo he's was put through a lot of hardship and he grew into a strong warrior with conquerors haki.
@@Syllights thats true, but I wonder how
He turns out if he never leaves marijois. Maybe exposure to the “elements” and hardships of the lower land.
What about Doflamingo?
Its odd that Garp went to capture Roger but ended up fighting Rocks alongside Roger
The figure behind figarland is wearing a cow skull
the garp being a coward take is the best take I've ever heard, I used to like him but man
Hopping 👀🤣
Yoooo fexr the 🐐
I think Oda should’ve Ace Whitebeard Rodger Pedro n Oden being like watch Luffy become joyboy n his adventures, have them in one piece heaven drinking sake n telling jokes
I think Garp didnt care about Rocks because thats what the celestial dragons deserve for whatever it is they stole also disrupts their school outing, Roger is Garps Bff he just wanted to see his friend Roger probably convinced Garp to tag team Rocks because he probably didn't want rocks to get what he came for
My guy on the far right is CLEARLY LL Cool J in disguise 🥸
How do you call in do you gotta let set it by email or something??
Also another thing. So titles don't mean anything UNLESS it comes to Rocks??? come on Larry
If Bonnie is a clone why she callin kuma her dad 😭😭2:19:07
I don't think Larry's Boxing vs. MMA analogy works as well as he thinks it does 😂 Swords/Blades in OP tend to be the most powerful weapons since you have ppl who just dodge bullets or are unaffected by them, so being proficient in swordsmanship is like being a Navy SEAL vs an MMA fighter. Sure if you limit the rules of engagement to purely hand to hand, the MMA guys destroys but if you make it a real battle with no holds barred, the SEAL is gonna kill the MMA fighter dead
I agree with everything except Garp finally decided to do something and actually achieving it. He saved Koby. After Ace's death and after Dadan make him realize the importance of family he finally did it. Garp might have failed a lot of times when it mattered the most but at least he finally learned and won.
So whenever it was said that we havent seen any celestial dragons or anyone affiliated with the world government protect the people what about Myosgard defending the fishmen
the garp slander is crazy all the points are why didnt the give up all his authority as a hero of the marines, and fight a fight he is guarenteed to lose. garp is not just trying to beat people up, he wants to create change within the marines and lead the next generation to be better than the corrupt marines he has seen. garp wasnt the one to kill the babies, and its not like he could have prevented everything or even known about alot of events. at the end of the day im just confused way garp is getting hate for not killing himself to fight the world which wouldnt do ANYthing in the long term.
and garp didnt just do nothing in the marines, you guys make it seem like all pirates are good guys, but its literally the oposite the only good pirates are luffy and ig law, even kid killed innocent people and overall pirates are a more constant evil than the marines. not every action the marines make is killing people, its basically just the celestial dragons.
Thing is it’s too late, he took too long to fight for change. Out of all those terrible events he only found one person who even fits his ideal and that’s Koby. But the waiting in peace, fighting for “change” w/o even doing any change doesn’t make sense.
Shout out to Fexr bro was right.. Kuma got no rizz 😂😂 Ginny literally asked kuma to marry her and bro refused... Dragon definitely smashed 😂😂he definitely gave her backshots of liberation 😂 😮
Garp is definitely trying to change the marines from the inside but the thing is how long is he gonna try for. the closet he has gotten to his “goal” is Koby. Koby is the ideal marine He expects. It just took too long for it too happen. All those years and now you finally find one person who fits you’re ideals. I get Garp’s point but sitting there through all those terrible events and plus more is quite cowardly. He hasn’t really fought for change until now.
Could not agree more when it comes to Garp amd Batman, Garp is not just a coward, he's something worse. Garp is a HYPOCRITE.
Garp should have made sword a long time ago
who hurt larry? he’s just yappin, i picture the syndrome meme from incredibles but it’s larry getting betrayed by garp lol
Roger was definitely hunting a specific fruit but i dont think its luffys
Larry cooked with garp n rocks takes
I've always disliked Garp for many of the reasons that were state. The Brother spit the Absolute Truth! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏👌👌👌 Garp was never a Hero. Oda has been tellin' us the whole Story. Rocks ain't Evil. I've said it for five years. Roger ain't a Good Man. He's Selfish. Luffy is a Hybrid of Rocks and Roger. Jack is a Fishman. Linlin was associated with a few Fishmen.
Maybe big mom wanted the fruits for her kids??
I was rocking with Larry takes for years. Well most of them but the Garp take took me out. I just can’t get behind this take. Still respect it
He’s talking pure facts though, garp letting ace die and being complicit in the explicit evil the CDs get up to is inexcusable.
I think Fujitora started sword, I don't see Garp having the guts to start sword. Fujitora at dressrosa bowed to the king and apologized on TV, Fujitora stopped the warlord system, Fujitora done more than anything Garp done. Freed slaves from the celestials, I see Fujitora doing what Garp should have done
What a pure delusional take you had . It wasnt fujitora it was gorossei who abolished warlord system and if garp was coward would kong send garp to fight roger and rocks . And due to garp marines got prominent fighters like aokiji and koby
@@RishikPandey-fw5dw not delusional at all, Fujitora was the admiral who allowed doflamingo to get away with what's been going on. Fujitora was the one who embarrassed the navy, akainu the fleet admiral even talked to fujitora about the situation he caused and now the warlord system is dismantled. You named the marines my guy one went with Blackbeard and Koby is still too young to make a difference. Fujitora still has done more in his time with the Marines then Garp, but your free to have your own opinion
@@brianq6244 nah bruh fujitora is good marine for sure but saying has done more than garp is just wrong if garp wasnt necessary why would he be offered the position of admiral despite knowing he openly disrespects celestial dragons . He was the one who fought major wars . Didnt sengoku mentioned garp was still in marine despite disrespecting CD due to his achievements and didnt chinjao and shakky the former rocks pirates garp was monster.
The only marine who could surpass garp in terms of achievements and strength maybe akainu not fujitora
@@RishikPandey-fw5dw take strength out of it, no one can take that away, but clearly strength isn't what's gonna change the way the marines go about things. Turning a blind eye to what the celestials do, the corruption,slavery,racism is what I'm getting at. Fujitora has done more in trying to change these things compared to Garp. Yes Garp should probably be fleet admiral but he didn't except it because of the celestials, he had the strength to bring it down
@@RishikPandey-fw5dw What has Garp actually accomplished?
Garp is a hard character to defend at this point lol. If we’re being honest everyone is basically hoping that he is playing a long con or planning a future coup against the celestial dragons. I feel confident though that if he’s NOT planning a coup people will finally recognize he’s not a good person and will most likely hate his character. Unless you like rooting for the villains, it will be impossible to defend his actions otherwise IMO. I also really liked Larry’s take on him being a coward when it comes to him protecting his family, specifically when it concerns the government and celestial dragons. Garp has tried it his way and hasn’t really accomplished anything, I understand what he’s trying to do but it doesn’t work and probably never will. Garp’s refusal to take anything serious has slowly made me lose respect for him over the years. What concerns me most about his character is the only explanation for his bizarre behavior would be a future coup attempt…unfortunately I doubt Garp is smart enough to pull that off, let alone be patient enough to orchestrate a 20-30 year old plan.
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Jack the drought was a fishman. So kaido has it covered.
i honestly feel lik garp cud see sumthin different in ace n luffy evn as kids n thats y he wantd them to b marines cuz he felt lik they cud do wut he cudnt ... n i feel lik dragon and garp r workin towards the same goal from different points of view .... plus we cant forget that ace was saved n then he himself made a terrible choice n he went back n got himself killed
Garp is an incomplete character that's how oda writes his characters if we judge them prematurely they won't make sense but time will tell as of now garp is not him
Garp can’t just leave the marines he would most likely be hunted down and his home town would be destroyed who knows
1:47:48 bro saying roger would lose to mihawk is insane. get this bum off the show good god
How do you know he isn't
Facts dude was wildin with his takes
I could do without reading all the hashtag shouts 🤷🏻♂️ Larry with the L takes as usual 🤣
Mihawk is the goat
Why are we still acting like Garp watched the Marines kill ace .. he pulled his punch against Luffy TO HELP SAVE ACE. Everyone likes to focus on the results of MarineFord without actually mentioning everything in totality. End of the day , Ace Killed Ace
Garp is jealous of Dragon, Sabo and Luffy because they are actually doing what he wanted to do…FREE THE WORLD!!!
Garp literally achieved his goal, he raised a generation with unlimited potential and good hearts to uphold what he considers justice
I think Kobe would be saved Luffy pirate n all
Ik the anime gonna do got valley justice
FEXR D GOAT
2nd
We're 7th?
Rocks is the previous holder of the Gomu Gomu. The reason why the gov had it at the end is because Rocks was killed in God valley and they captured it with fruit on the island.
Dont you think Wb,big mom or Kaido who had direct meetup with luffy would once mention that?
Even if we assume Xebec had g5 unlocked, Why would kaido be so surprised about it?
Doesn’t makr any sense