In November of each year, each first class (firstie) USNA midshipman selects the branch of the Navy in which they wish to serve... air, non-nuke surface, nuke (submarine and nuke surface), marine corps, supply corps, engineering duty, SEAL, etc. The selection order is by the midshipmen's class rank at the time of the service selection. This event is called service selection night and affects ALL first class mids. In late January, those "firsties" who selected non-nuke surface warfare select the ship to which they will first report. This surface ship selection event is what this video is about. That selection is also according to class rank.
+dave corley "The selection order is by the midshipmen's class rank at the time of the service selection." That is incorrect or at least only partially true. OOM is not the sole determining factor for service selection. For example, if the number 1 person's first choice/preference is Naval Special Warfare, they may or may not get it because there is a separate board before "service selection night." Also, if there first choice is "Pilot" if they are not qualified medically for that, they also will not get it. That being said, OOM is probably the single greatest determining factor for service selection but certainly only one of several. However, once selected for surface warfare, Overall Order of Merit is the determining factor in what order they get to choose their ship.
+Prodigysportsman Alright, the "rule" is class rank (OK, order of merit) at the time of selection. The exceptions to the rule are governed by a host of other conditions and contingencies. My guess is that the rule applies 90% of the time and exceptions come into play the other 10%. Would you agree? BTW, as a prospective nuke, at service selection night, I had two prioritized alternatives in the event I failed the Rickover/Naval Reactor interview. The alternatives allowed prospective nukes washed out of their interview to be eligible for the ship selection night which was (at that time) the same night as service selection night. As an aside,... spring set of second class year I was bound and determined to fly front seat. I was an aero eng major and a private pilot. At my annual physical, doctor's found a problem with my eyes - pilot was not an option. NFO was an option. I had an aero prof who was an A-6 Intruder pilot. He politely suggested that the NFO career path was dead for command opportunities and urged me to go nuke. I went nuke, passed my interviews, graduated from USNA/nuc power school/prototype/sub school. Five years later I was back at Naval Reactors taking my engineers' exam. ADM Rickover wanted to see me again. He asked why an aero major went nuke subs. I told him why. 30 seconds into that second interview, I was out the door and headed back to my first boat... USS Hawkbill, SSN-666.
+dave corley Another Rickover story....smh. So, he "failed" you for ENG? Did you want to stay subs? Idk why Rickover would have cared 5 years after service selection night after a JO tour, if you did. The vast majority of USNA nukes interview before service selection night. They even started interviewing second class for (what I believe was) the first time in 2006. They also brought back forced interviews (and threats of punishment for intentional fails) in 2007 for the first time in decades (I think). ADM Donald was not happy about it and ringed VADM Fowler with a piece of his mind. This is yet another reason why OOM was not the sole determining factor. I have classmates that wanted to be pilots and even a SWO but were "forced" subs. Conversely, I had prior-submariners, prior-nukes, and a minority mech e major that wanted to interview but weren't allowed. That really frosted me and it didn't even affect me directly. It's hard to know for sure if sole OOM was the determining factor for those that wanted to be a pilot and service selected NFO or SWO, or those that wanted to be Marines but service selected NFO or SWO. I think % wise, 75-80% OOM, but I am not here to split hairs with your 90% assessment. My point, not knowing you are a grad, was to make sure there wasn't a misconception that it was ALL based on OOM.
+Prodigysportsman Point taken. Nope... passed the engineers exam and interviews with flying colors. Rickover was just curious about my major, I guess. I had a shipmate on my second boat (he was english major, class of '81, I think) who was ordered to an interview. That was back in the days when the Soviets had 3x the subs we did and US nuke sub officers could expect sixteen to eighteen years of sea duty. In hindsight and IMHO, it was the right thing for CNO/NAVPERS/NR to do... 131 nuke subs in commission ... needs of the Navy to keep Russians at bay... and fill the void left when first tour nuke JOs left for high-paying, quality-of-life civ nuke jobs.
The colors: White placards are eligible to conventional SWO, and SWO engineering duty officer (EDO) selectees only. A yellow placard is available to Conventional SWO, SWO(nuclear), and SWO EDO selectees. Green placards are only eligible for midshipmen assigned to the information warfare community. A red placard is only available to SWO(nuclear) selectees, who will attend Navy nuclear power training after earning their surface warfare pin.
+Robyn O'Reilly finished first in his class for his community, which is swo. surface warfare officer. there are also a lot of other communities, like aviation, supply, intel, nuke, sub. etc.
same as everybodyelse. there is a service obligation for everyone attended the naval academy. for a swo, i think its only four years commitment. pilot is 10 years, included 2 years of training. nfo is 8 years with 2 years of training.
@@Josh-lu3gw Since David Robinson, they have released many jocks from serving their full active duty obligation. That's wrong IMO! *s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
As a navy vet, Norfolk goes last for everyone 😂😂😂😂. Having said this, it’s the best choice. U r guaranteed to never be assigned a different duty station if u don’t want to move. Meaning, u can purchase a nice condo immediately to hang ur cover
It's good to see some Enlisted professionals presenting this program.
In November of each year, each first class (firstie) USNA midshipman selects the branch of the Navy in which they wish to serve... air, non-nuke surface, nuke (submarine and nuke surface), marine corps, supply corps, engineering duty, SEAL, etc. The selection order is by the midshipmen's class rank at the time of the service selection. This event is called service selection night and affects ALL first class mids.
In late January, those "firsties" who selected non-nuke surface warfare select the ship to which they will first report. This surface ship selection event is what this video is about. That selection is also according to class rank.
+dave corley
"The selection order is by the midshipmen's class rank at the time of the service selection."
That is incorrect or at least only partially true. OOM is not the sole determining factor for service selection. For example, if the number 1 person's first choice/preference is Naval Special Warfare, they may or may not get it because there is a separate board before "service selection night." Also, if there first choice is "Pilot" if they are not qualified medically for that, they also will not get it. That being said, OOM is probably the single greatest determining factor for service selection but certainly only one of several.
However, once selected for surface warfare, Overall Order of Merit is the determining factor in what order they get to choose their ship.
+Prodigysportsman Alright, the "rule" is class rank (OK, order of merit) at the time of selection. The exceptions to the rule are governed by a host of other conditions and contingencies. My guess is that the rule applies 90% of the time and exceptions come into play the other 10%. Would you agree?
BTW, as a prospective nuke, at service selection night, I had two prioritized alternatives in the event I failed the Rickover/Naval Reactor interview. The alternatives allowed prospective nukes washed out of their interview to be eligible for the ship selection night which was (at that time) the same night as service selection night.
As an aside,... spring set of second class year I was bound and determined to fly front seat. I was an aero eng major and a private pilot. At my annual physical, doctor's found a problem with my eyes - pilot was not an option. NFO was an option. I had an aero prof who was an A-6 Intruder pilot. He politely suggested that the NFO career path was dead for command opportunities and urged me to go nuke. I went nuke, passed my interviews, graduated from USNA/nuc power school/prototype/sub school. Five years later I was back at Naval Reactors taking my engineers' exam. ADM Rickover wanted to see me again. He asked why an aero major went nuke subs. I told him why. 30 seconds into that second interview, I was out the door and headed back to my first boat... USS Hawkbill, SSN-666.
+dave corley
Another Rickover story....smh. So, he "failed" you for ENG? Did you want to stay subs? Idk why Rickover would have cared 5 years after service selection night after a JO tour, if you did.
The vast majority of USNA nukes interview before service selection night. They even started interviewing second class for (what I believe was) the first time in 2006. They also brought back forced interviews (and threats of punishment for intentional fails) in 2007 for the first time in decades (I think). ADM Donald was not happy about it and ringed VADM Fowler with a piece of his mind.
This is yet another reason why OOM was not the sole determining factor. I have classmates that wanted to be pilots and even a SWO but were "forced" subs. Conversely, I had prior-submariners, prior-nukes, and a minority mech e major that wanted to interview but weren't allowed. That really frosted me and it didn't even affect me directly.
It's hard to know for sure if sole OOM was the determining factor for those that wanted to be a pilot and service selected NFO or SWO, or those that wanted to be Marines but service selected NFO or SWO. I think % wise, 75-80% OOM, but I am not here to split hairs with your 90% assessment. My point, not knowing you are a grad, was to make sure there wasn't a misconception that it was ALL based on OOM.
+Prodigysportsman Point taken. Nope... passed the engineers exam and interviews with flying colors. Rickover was just curious about my major, I guess. I had a shipmate on my second boat (he was english major, class of '81, I think) who was ordered to an interview. That was back in the days when the Soviets had 3x the subs we did and US nuke sub officers could expect sixteen to eighteen years of sea duty. In hindsight and IMHO, it was the right thing for CNO/NAVPERS/NR to do... 131 nuke subs in commission ... needs of the Navy to keep Russians at bay... and fill the void left when first tour nuke JOs left for high-paying, quality-of-life civ nuke jobs.
The colors:
White placards are eligible to conventional SWO, and SWO engineering duty officer (EDO) selectees only. A yellow placard is available to Conventional SWO, SWO(nuclear), and SWO EDO selectees. Green placards are only eligible for midshipmen assigned to the information warfare community. A red placard is only available to SWO(nuclear) selectees, who will attend Navy nuclear power training after earning their surface warfare pin.
bruh this is like the nfl draft
What do the red placards signify?
I pick the Minnow.
only took 27min until someone chose to hangout with some minemen...not bad
I picked the K 19.
So are these the only ships available for all midshipmen and officer candidates throughout the whole U.S?
Midshipmen only. Detailing for OCS candidates is different.
why are they doing the head gear
this is the ship they command?
Der Panzer serve on, not command
what is the meaning of the ship names in red
Red placards are only available for midshipmen who are going to specialize in nuclear surface warfare. They will continue to nuclear power training
who gets to pick first and why
+Robyn O'Reilly finished first in his class for his community, which is swo. surface warfare officer. there are also a lot of other communities, like aviation, supply, intel, nuke, sub. etc.
I wonder where the quarter back from Navy will go
same as everybodyelse. there is a service obligation for everyone attended the naval academy. for a swo, i think its only four years commitment. pilot is 10 years, included 2 years of training. nfo is 8 years with 2 years of training.
@@Josh-lu3gw Since David Robinson, they have released many jocks from serving their full active duty obligation. That's wrong IMO!
*s/ Retired 24 Year US Navy Submariner - USNA Class of 1965 - Former Enlisted Man*
@@SaltiDawg2008 Don't they have to go into the reserves?
girls choosing florida or california.. what a shock..
As a navy vet, Norfolk goes last for everyone 😂😂😂😂. Having said this, it’s the best choice. U r guaranteed to never be assigned a different duty station if u don’t want to move. Meaning, u can purchase a nice condo immediately to hang ur cover
What are the red and blue ones?
Red is for nuclear surface warfare, green is for information warfare
Excelent video, but spanish translation is HORRIBLE.