Woah. Some of these must be running dead. The route indexing would have been way too high if not and would have sucked the third rail dry. Definitely a rare catch there. Nice
Hmm, interesting. So the question is, why did they have to bring down another set of Electrostars to rescue the broken down one instead of dragging it with a loco? It's funny that this set of 375s are actually longer than a eurostar xD
With a loco it would have taken longer to get the train out of the way because the use of an adapter coupler would mean it could only travel at a maximum of 5mph. With units, they can travel at linespeed but going back to using the 11 car 375 to rescue, the 11 car was out of service and would have been sat in a depot all day so it was used instead of taking a passenger train out of service to rescue it
In theory yes, but there is no way that would travel at line speed. The line current index wouldn't permit the motors on the whole train to be working. It would trip the breakers in the sub station. Chances are that there are only 9 motors cut in on the entire formation (equivalent to a 12 car as there are 3 motors per 4 car unit) Furthermore the MITRAC on class 375 can only accommodate a 12 car train, so the rear of the train would have been coupled mechanically but not electronically so basically was being dragged. Great video though and yes mega rare. I have been driving the class 375 for 5 years and worked on the railway for 10 and the longest i have ever seen is a 16 car
The MITRAC system was fooled into believing it was a 12 car train and the broken units (ones leading into sidings) were isolated with shoes in the raised position thus leaving the rear 3 units to provide all the power and I believe it managed to gain linespeed as well and I also believe it was all coupled up normally (electrical + mechanical)
Signalling will just work normally. Although it's a longer train, it just means that if it enters a particularly short signal section, the train will cause a few danger aspect signals in its wake. If the train assisted from the front and resulted in it having to start in advance of a danger signal, the driver would request permission from the controlling signaller to pass the signal at danger on the basis of starting ahead of signal (reversing). Once passed, the driver obeys all further aspects
Not correct im afraid - That train is 470M long which is 23 chains, The centre of Waterloo East Platform to the buffer stops at Charing Cross is 61 chains. If you add an extra 18 coaches (half the WE platform and the whole of the Charing Cross Platforms) that is another 18 and a quarter chains making a total of just over 41 chains. It needs to be 20 chains longer which works out at another 20 coaches just to get each end touching the platforms
HOBC cannot be classed as coaches muppet. HOBC+ And I quote: "Ballast cleaning system consists of an RM 900 RT ballast cleaning machine with supply of new ballast, two power wagons as traction vehicles and 44 material conveyor and hopper units, 36 of which are MFS-D for through-loading and the remaining 8 are MFS-SB with slewing unloading conveyor belt." So really doesn't give passengers an easy ride with that consist :-)
I can only find on the internet that the 357's put out 2000 HP, but i know MU's share power amongst the cars unlike a traditional locomotive with one or multiple engines or power cars at one end. How much power would this thing have put out? I mean, with that many cars it had to have had the power to pull a heavy freight train if the couplers are compatible.
Matt Brine There are five Class 375 units putting out 2,000 HP each and one shorter Class 375/3 unit in the consist closer to 1,300 HP. This comes out to 11,300 HP, roughly on par with a Eurostar set, though I doubt it could haul heavy freight if only because of the lack of tractive effort.
Matt Brine At the time only the rear 11 coaches of the train were taking power directly, the leading 12 coaches with the missing shoe gear were isolated so to confuse the computer to thinking it was a 11 car train.
Stormhall Productions Well if anything, if it has the tractive effort, it could. Where I come from, only a few GE Evolutions (each putting out 4000 HP) can pull a long consist of tankers, containers, box cars, triple-decker car haulers, and flat beds. Most of the time I only see 1 GEVO pulling a train, sometimes even just a 3000 HP SD 40-2 (by Canadian National or CP rail)
Due to short platforms at every station we're likely to reach, customers are advised to travel in the middle 4 coaches only...
aren't they all formed of 4 cars??
4X4X4X4X3X4=23.
Woah. Some of these must be running dead. The route indexing would have been way too high if not and would have sucked the third rail dry. Definitely a rare catch there. Nice
@MrFlavioValentino2 The front 12 carriages had lost their third rail pickups on one side so the rear 11 carriages came to the rescue
Hmm, interesting. So the question is, why did they have to bring down another set of Electrostars to rescue the broken down one instead of dragging it with a loco? It's funny that this set of 375s are actually longer than a eurostar xD
With a loco it would have taken longer to get the train out of the way because the use of an adapter coupler would mean it could only travel at a maximum of 5mph. With units, they can travel at linespeed but going back to using the 11 car 375 to rescue, the 11 car was out of service and would have been sat in a depot all day so it was used instead of taking a passenger train out of service to rescue it
In theory yes, but there is no way that would travel at line speed. The line current index wouldn't permit the motors on the whole train to be working. It would trip the breakers in the sub station. Chances are that there are only 9 motors cut in on the entire formation (equivalent to a 12 car as there are 3 motors per 4 car unit) Furthermore the MITRAC on class 375 can only accommodate a 12 car train, so the rear of the train would have been coupled mechanically but not electronically so basically was being dragged. Great video though and yes mega rare. I have been driving the class 375 for 5 years and worked on the railway for 10 and the longest i have ever seen is a 16 car
The MITRAC system was fooled into believing it was a 12 car train and the broken units (ones leading into sidings) were isolated with shoes in the raised position thus leaving the rear 3 units to provide all the power and I believe it managed to gain linespeed as well and I also believe it was all coupled up normally (electrical + mechanical)
The class 700s testing ended up being longer than this at 24 carriages
And there is a 24 Carriage Class 700 longer.
This is epic!
If this had stopped between Waterloo East and Charing Cross, passengers could have walked between the two stations via the carriages!
Signalling will just work normally. Although it's a longer train, it just means that if it enters a particularly short signal section, the train will cause a few danger aspect signals in its wake. If the train assisted from the front and resulted in it having to start in advance of a danger signal, the driver would request permission from the controlling signaller to pass the signal at danger on the basis of starting ahead of signal (reversing). Once passed, the driver obeys all further aspects
(combe Junction halt) passengers in the rear 22 and a half coaches please move to the front half a coach to alight the train
Ah just read the description. Yeah that would explain it. Should have read it first really, makes my first post a bit redundant. Bollocks
That's the longest electrostar I've seen in my entire life
Moar coaches than a EUROSTAR! XD
And that’s as fast as I could go due to overload on the 3rd rail!
Did a 16 Car on Railworks with 375's. :D
Wow nice catch mate liked + fav
MY GOODNESS!
Rare and lucky
Is this even legal?
Holy shit
Oh, I'm stupid
Not correct im afraid - That train is 470M long which is 23 chains, The centre of Waterloo East Platform to the buffer stops at Charing Cross is 61 chains. If you add an extra 18 coaches (half the WE platform and the whole of the Charing Cross Platforms) that is another 18 and a quarter chains making a total of just over 41 chains. It needs to be 20 chains longer which works out at another 20 coaches just to get each end touching the platforms
@ElectrostarLewis wow think about it 1 of dose cars are about 10 to 11 metres
@Syniqal i know i went on a 6 car 377 to london vicoria in rush hour it was packed luckley we got a seet! but it was still unexceptable!
What caused them to lose their shoegear ?
was it like something on the track ?
much longer that 2 11cars pendo!
I honestly thought this was a looped wind up till the very end lol
@Syniqal I have noticed some of their trains have run shorter than usual
@mappman1000 everyone managed to get off when it got stranded
@TheKong14 Very difficult to explain but easy to understand
Now that's what I call a VERY long train
@26crosscountry Neither did I when I was told about it
Wow deffinately favourited this one. Really nice catch mate
I wonder how signalling works on this train...?
@HSTHoward was you shocked when i posted to gen lol
@ElectrostarLewis Thats the 1st 23-car 375 ever
@Dannyboy3333able1 well each one is 65ft in length
@Jedipickles yes it was an object on the track
@mixmam1 I laughed when I first heard about it
@MattH2580 What the heck does that mean??
@timelordgeek16 Doesn't happen hardly ever
Read the description and it will tell you
@MainlineMiller the only way to do it
375310 (2nd to last) is a 3 car set.
@happylooking I wasnt expecting this
@Charlesn132 for an empty train yes
iwas like you say WAT
I hope that wasn't overcrowded!
@Southernrailwaysfan thanks mate
@MrFlavioValentino2 A rescue run
23 car as it says in the title
@HSTCalvin 2 hours i reckon
wow sooooooo long
@Electrostar377 thanks mate
@ChampsRacing thanks mate
@Cazkumali I know it is
@gtaftw2 Doesnt matter.
Just like normal.
@43053beastage thanks
@ianjackiemattlee yep
@lukespencer91 Thanks
thats quite comical
@1madaboutguitar lol
23 or 24 car?
@LondonCityTour yep
Wow, that is long!!!
NO WAY 23 car
@resigamer17 thanks
@HSTHoward lol
wow
@HSTChris yep
This is rare..and what's even more rare is the fact that there was no traction noise when it began to move...strange huh
BB- BRANZ leading 12 coaches were isolated and were effectively taking power from the rear 3 units
@nxea170201 i had to rub my eyes just encase i was seeing things
When I saw this, I was like, this can’t be. Until I watched,
@pwharley ha ha lol
Was this the most carriages for one train in the UK? It was but now it is not. There is a video of two 700/1s which make up 24 carriages
shelby3024's Commenting the longest Train in the U.K. Is the HOBC freight with 51 coaches
HOBC cannot be classed as coaches muppet. HOBC+ And I quote: "Ballast cleaning system consists of an RM 900 RT ballast cleaning machine with
supply of new ballast, two power wagons as traction vehicles and 44 material conveyor and hopper units, 36 of which are MFS-D for through-loading and the remaining 8 are MFS-SB with slewing unloading conveyor belt." So really doesn't give passengers an easy ride with that consist :-)
dayum
I can only find on the internet that the 357's put out 2000 HP, but i know MU's share power amongst the cars unlike a traditional locomotive with one or multiple engines or power cars at one end.
How much power would this thing have put out? I mean, with that many cars it had to have had the power to pull a heavy freight train if the couplers are compatible.
Matt Brine There are five Class 375 units putting out 2,000 HP each and one shorter Class 375/3 unit in the consist closer to 1,300 HP. This comes out to 11,300 HP, roughly on par with a Eurostar set, though I doubt it could haul heavy freight if only because of the lack of tractive effort.
Matt Brine At the time only the rear 11 coaches of the train were taking power directly, the leading 12 coaches with the missing shoe gear were isolated so to confuse the computer to thinking it was a 11 car train.
Stormhall Productions Well if anything, if it has the tractive effort, it could. Where I come from, only a few GE Evolutions (each putting out 4000 HP) can pull a long consist of tankers, containers, box cars, triple-decker car haulers, and flat beds. Most of the time I only see 1 GEVO pulling a train, sometimes even just a 3000 HP SD 40-2 (by Canadian National or CP rail)
@MattH2580 "That's what she said" That is soo gay!!!