You are absolutely the man. I have been searching TH-cam and the entire internet for weeks and could not find a video on how to get the sensor plates off to access the bolts to disassemble the phaser. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have a 2.8 24valve in a Eurovan and the pins won't lock. What a relief. You have a fan for life.
Bravo, sir! WOW, Someone actually degreed in vr6 cams. Most people just use the cam locking plate as their timing reference. As you have shown they are not for timing the cams.
I'm fascinated by this video. I'm new to your channel and I must admit this is probably gonna send me down a rabbit hole watching your vids and getting lots of ideas to get myself in trouble with my wife. Lol.
thats balls man i would of just welded the cam sprocket that you had for a easy ride i know there heavyer but you are on it man hats off you braver than i am
Not that I've ever heard of converting, but that slack you're talking about in the chain is very common to engines that have timing marks and colored chain links. Although most engines use this design, where woodruff keys or dowel pins index the sprockets to the shafts, it's performance is inferior because of the inherent timing inaccuracy. The better way to do it is how BMW and Ford do it. They have locking fixtures for all the shafts and the chain and sprockets turn freely during setup. The chain is tensioned and all the slack between the sprockets is drawn out to the tensioner span, and you can see all the cam sprockets creep into their final position as you do it. Then you lock them all down with a single high-torque center bolt, and you have the most perfect timing possible without a gear drive. This SP kit you're installing does a lot to try and accomplish the same goal.
Agreed, ive done a few bmw’s so im familiar The issue with my oe setup and the slack is its a dedicated race car. Sitting on rev limiter with not only 1 but 3 hydraulic controlled units in the timing system allows for too much error/inconsistency With everything manual now ive seen 8500 constantly with 0 cam/crank sync issues While still hydraulic i was getting the intake cam position changing on its on just with the oil pressure whenever it wanted.
Its been working well as is. I think the settings were spot on doing the lobe center adjustments. For example over the previous tune/setup with the same cams and oe vvt gears. I had to add 15% more fuel on the entire full throttle map after the cam gears and degree And i gained over 10mph in the 1/4
I've seen lower lobe seperation angles on the 4cylnders is why I'm thinking you may be able to gain a small%more maybe. For sure one of your best mods yet and great info for all. Thanks@@SmithsEuro
Thats what tuning is though, finding out the unknown. It might slow down,it might pick up but either way you should give it a shot down the road. @SmithsEuro
Upon further investigation, your intake cam timing is best overall setting. Better would be close to 47*-2k, 55*-3k, 45*-4k, 38*-5k, 30*-6k, 20*-7k, 15*-8k, 9*-9k. On a toyota 4cylinder, that is a well tuned map for intake cam timing..@@SmithsEuro
Interesting! I always read that the VR6 was unable to get much gains as an all motor engine unless you slap a turbo to it. This makes me want to go the cam route and try to get some extra ponies out of my 3.2 A3. What sort of gains did you notice? Also, does the VVT have to be tuned out? If so which tuners do it?
My car is a dedicated race car, i tune it myself on a fueltech. I picked up over 10mph in a 1/4 mile Which should be heaps of power. That being said, this is best suited for full race applications. Deleting vvt off a street car will loose lots of low end power Which in my case doesn’t matter since i launch at 5700rpm
You are absolutely the man. I have been searching TH-cam and the entire internet for weeks and could not find a video on how to get the sensor plates off to access the bolts to disassemble the phaser. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have a 2.8 24valve in a Eurovan and the pins won't lock. What a relief. You have a fan for life.
No problem, glad it could help.
Bravo, sir! WOW, Someone actually degreed in vr6 cams. Most people just use the cam locking plate as their timing reference. As you have shown they are not for timing the cams.
Appreciate it. Im my all motor car i gained about 10mph in the 1/4 after installing. Worked well for me
I'm fascinated by this video. I'm new to your channel and I must admit this is probably gonna send me down a rabbit hole watching your vids and getting lots of ideas to get myself in trouble with my wife. Lol.
thats balls man i would of just welded the cam sprocket that you had for a easy ride i know there heavyer but you are on it man hats off you braver than i am
This is the episode that really sells me on this project, awesome!
Appreciated, plenty more to come. Going to keep pushing it and going faster.
That car is a monster! Love the build!
Appreciate it man
Not that I've ever heard of converting, but that slack you're talking about in the chain is very common to engines that have timing marks and colored chain links. Although most engines use this design, where woodruff keys or dowel pins index the sprockets to the shafts, it's performance is inferior because of the inherent timing inaccuracy. The better way to do it is how BMW and Ford do it. They have locking fixtures for all the shafts and the chain and sprockets turn freely during setup. The chain is tensioned and all the slack between the sprockets is drawn out to the tensioner span, and you can see all the cam sprockets creep into their final position as you do it. Then you lock them all down with a single high-torque center bolt, and you have the most perfect timing possible without a gear drive. This SP kit you're installing does a lot to try and accomplish the same goal.
Agreed, ive done a few bmw’s so im familiar
The issue with my oe setup and the slack is its a dedicated race car.
Sitting on rev limiter with not only 1 but 3 hydraulic controlled units in the timing system allows for too much error/inconsistency
With everything manual now ive seen 8500 constantly with 0 cam/crank sync issues
While still hydraulic i was getting the intake cam position changing on its on just with the oil pressure whenever it wanted.
way better than boosted boy
Thx for sharing pure rowdy❤
Thanks for continuing to watch
Nice job dude!
Thanks for watching
If you ever retard the exhaust or advance the intake a bit more, I'd love to know. Thanks.
Its been working well as is.
I think the settings were spot on doing the lobe center adjustments.
For example over the previous tune/setup with the same cams and oe vvt gears.
I had to add 15% more fuel on the entire full throttle map after the cam gears and degree
And i gained over 10mph in the 1/4
I've seen lower lobe seperation angles on the 4cylnders is why I'm thinking you may be able to gain a small%more maybe. For sure one of your best mods yet and great info for all. Thanks@@SmithsEuro
Thats what tuning is though, finding out the unknown.
It might slow down,it might pick up but either way you should give it a shot down the road.
@SmithsEuro
Upon further investigation, your intake cam timing is best overall setting. Better would be close to 47*-2k, 55*-3k, 45*-4k, 38*-5k, 30*-6k, 20*-7k, 15*-8k, 9*-9k. On a toyota 4cylinder, that is a well tuned map for intake cam timing..@@SmithsEuro
You talk a lot but, you don't say much. Try to enter the conversation more properly.@@MrTheHillfolk
Interesting! I always read that the VR6 was unable to get much gains as an all motor engine unless you slap a turbo to it. This makes me want to go the cam route and try to get some extra ponies out of my 3.2 A3.
What sort of gains did you notice? Also, does the VVT have to be tuned out? If so which tuners do it?
My car is a dedicated race car, i tune it myself on a fueltech.
I picked up over 10mph in a 1/4 mile
Which should be heaps of power.
That being said, this is best suited for full race applications.
Deleting vvt off a street car will loose lots of low end power
Which in my case doesn’t matter since i launch at 5700rpm
So keeping the car stock and slapping a turbo in it seems the way to go then. Haha
Thanks for the reply and awesome job on the car! Sounds amazing.
Can I ask how hard is it to change the tune? Can it be done with a vcds?
No idea on a stock ecu
Definitely cant tune with vcds
@@SmithsEuro thanks for replying right away, what aftermarket ECU are you using?
@pairadimesprojects2674 fuel tech