Is the scene the house???? I promise you ..if they find a dead body in my front yard...my house will be searched, locked down and the whole neighborhood would be questioned.
@@EC-dz3fb I don't find it believable that she managed to hit him so fast with her car that he died, then didn't notice she hit a 6'2" man, got all the way home safely without hitting anything else, and then woke up with no recollection of it and the only damage to her car is a busted taillight. He didn't even have abdominal injuries. Not to mention, if she was backing out that fast and then hit something heavy, it would make noise. He didn't yell when he saw the car coming? No one was nosy enough to look out their window to see what was going on? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Someone does (or at the very least one juror) has to question why at sometime around 2AM some woman connected to that house where this body is found randomly searches for, “How long ….” That makes no sense. That is way before this “defendant” gets back in her car to find her boyfriend. That same woman also walks up to and likely into the home where this victim is dead outside of on their lawn yet NO ONE comes out from, afterward. No one is curious? There’s a dead “friend” in their yard. There’s a paramedic inside and still, nothing?! That’s enough for doubt in my mind!
It was actually 6.30 am at Karens request also no one come out of any of the houses because the sirens weren't on ....maybe check your facts and sources 👍
@Tuesdaysdead nope it was at 237. Am check yours. No sirens give me a break if you think they just werent aware all that was going on outside their house. But if you still refuse to see whats really going on you nener will.
@@Tuesdaysdead You may want to check YOUR facts!!! You may want to listen to the hearings, pretrial hearings, opening statements, the trial itself, etc. The Feds have been investigating this investigation. The 2:27 am Google search, that was "deleted", (but you should know with all your expertise, is never completely deleted) actually happened at 2:27 am. Oh, and no one ever heard KR tell JM to google "hos long to die in cold"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Tuesdaysdead A police officer who was a first responsed who owns that house, when 2 police cars with lights a fire truck and an ambulance are parked outside your house. You will be out that house like bullet. It's just so suspicious.
The FBI must be on meth then, because they did a parallel investigation and came to a very different conclusion than the commonwealth. John’s injuries did not come from being hit by a car.
At the time, whether Karen hit him or Not, her response was one of SHOCK, not of a deliberate act to hurt or maim, plus She doesn't Know if she hit him, just surmising she must have, how else would he be out there Dead in the snow. Also, weren't his INJURIES those of a Beating, Not a car strike?
Makes no sense as to why absolutely no one from inside the home came outside when they saw all of those police lights, ambulance, etc. right out in front of a police officer’s home. You’d think they’d be curious and come out! Wild- such a bizarre case. I hope the jury gets it right because I don’t know which way to lean.
No sense. Officers didn’t knock on the door to investigate. ‘Hey, excuse me there’s a body on your lawn do you have any idea who or why there is a person dying/dead on your property?’ It’s literally infuriating the incompetence.
If you’re a police officer and there’s an event going on, right in front of your house wouldn’t you go outside? I think the homeowners line of profession would make someone even more inclined to see what’s going on. Unless you have a reason not to go outside. The weather wasn’t that bad, to the point someone would be in danger by going outside for 10 min.
I wonder if it is possible that Karen Read did leave John O'Keefe badly hurt without even realising that she had hit him, he blacked out, and from a window Jennifer McCabe realised what had gone on but didn't say anything for some unknown reason. She must have had some deep beef with John O'Keefe that nobody else doesn't know about even now.
@user-sf8kw4yj6hand? So weather is going to prevent another cop who has something going on outside his home from going out to see what's going on? Uh uh no way. Especially another cop would go outside to see what all the lights were about.
So we are suppose to believe she put her suv in reverse drove 60 ft slammed into Officer O’Keefe. He has no injuries below his neck. No injuries on his chest, waist, legs, feet? The injuries he suffered was on his head, back of hands and scratches on his arm. The owner of 34 Fairview had a German shepherd for 7 years and shortly after this incident, re homes the dog. Give me a break.
Jennifer McCabe googling how long would you survive in the snow is a bit inconvenient for the prosecution. If there was a dead cop on my front lawn I'm dam sure I wouldn't be still asleep
@@cynonthechatI agree. Jennifer will be found guilty! Too many red flags on her part. Karen will finally be able to clear her name. All the others will end up slipping or turning against each other. Then the real through will come out
It still makes no sense to me how Karen read drove 24 miles per hour in reverse in 6k pound suv and yet, the injuries to John is so inconsistent. How do you get animal scratches on your right arm? Major red flag.
I have a real problem with the fact that they didn’t search the house or at the very least have the people inside come out and interview them. Because of that I don’t think we will ever know who killled John O’Keefe.
Love your coverage. I live 10 mins from where the JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan were buried and Tammy Daybell lost her life and the care and compassion you displayed for them and their tragic cas was just impressive and awesome. You have done great covering all these cases. Thank you!
@@Ingrid-j1o Yeah, I know. I meant the commentator lawyer talking with Vinnie. Am I not allowed to say that I enjoyed listening to Vinnie's guest talk?
For the amount of injuries to John's body, the damage to the car was minimal I think she's being used as a scapegoat. It wouldn't be the first time an innocent person has gone to prison for life hopefully justice will prevail but I certainly don't think she killed him
@@Southernnj26 imagine either way how much it's ravishing her system on the inside... Stress on that scale , either guilty or innocent will have the same effect - Doom !!
She's innocent. Way too many coincidences and inconsistency. I think she's 100% innocent I think you went into Jude's house and he had that dog attack him and they throw them outside after they beat the crap out of them you don't get that bad beat by getting bumped by a suv. Why else would they get rid of the dog rip up the carpet search up how long does a body stay out in the cold before it dies I mean come on now
The worst that anyone can deduce is that she “spoiled” the kids. That is not remotely an argument worthy of her killing this man over. His brother testified, as did his sister-in-law that nothing rose to heated hatred. Even if we assume she ran him over, at best it was an accident these prosecutors based on some Medal of Honor, hero grabbing trooper conjured! Not guilty.
@@kelrogers8480 - You saw jealousy that evening? You believe her jealousy rose so high she killed a cop in front of another first responder’s home at only 25 miles per hour, in reverse? Most people with rage do it with ferocious intention. 25 miles per hour, in reverse is too kind and you risk missing your target - who at 25 miles per hour and from where they show she started, could have easily stepped into the grass and avoided that vehicle.
There is no acceptable reason as to why they didn't go to the house to interview the occupants about what was happening outside. Preliminary interviews when they just arrived with KR indicated she allegedly left him outside so he could attend an after hours party at the house! And you will have an officer say he didn't see a reason to go in and interview the occupants about the events of that night!!!!?? He came across as an insincere and dishonest. And hell bent on not accepting wrong doing on that part by the police.
Agree but it was considered an accident upon arrival of scene and then state police took over .. the defense is very good at making them look incompetent
Amen. If for nothing else but to find his missing shoe. There was a party the night before. No reason at all if only for a safety check on the occupants.
Ive never met Karen Read or know her personality or her personality. She may have killed that man or may not have. Thats for a court to decide. I can say,in my opinion from what ive heard so far ,I feel the police version of the truth and circumstances is a straight lie and therefore is a coverup and by extension a frame. Point blank /Period! Additionally, Karen is Smoke ❤🎉
This case wasn’t over charged. This case relied on a trooper who they couldn’t have imagined a defense legal team smart enough to challenge combined police and prosecution arrogance!
Vinnie. You really should have Melanie Little on again to talk about this case.She knows more about it than the other guests you've had on. And she continues to fight for justice for Karen Read despite being threatened and badmouthed by other TH-camrs just because they disagree. She is articulate and knowledgeable and classy. She has brought this and many other stories to me down South in Georgia.
Edited cuz some people here over-analyze every tiny word in someones comments here: There is a little motive because she was unhappy and she was fighting with him. Every woman has some rage in her for being cheated on or hurt by their man. Could have been an accident because she is an angry drunk and just hit the gas. Now I'm going to Laugh out loud cuz you all think it's cool to get bent over another's opinion.. and Sorry Did you listen to Vinnie? Plus .. they don't need to prove motive so THE END
@@Cumdown NO ONE has to show motive. And no, the CW is not saying she drunkenly hit him. The CW is saying she hit him on purpose. Hence the reason for the upcharge!!! All the DEFENSE has to do is to show that the CW did not meet their burdon. AND they WILL and a whole lot more. She's FACTUALLY INNOCENT!!! 🌸🌸FKR🌸🌸
This video is the most clear about the possibilities and the theories. The part of the video in the yard where it happened is wonderful actually, and helpful to visualise the possibilities.
This is a 50/50 case in my opinion. It could go either way but with all the public support for Karen I’m not sure the jury can truly be impartial. We will see. The only strong evidence I’ve heard from the prosecution so car is the car recording 24 MPH in reverse for 62 feet.. but I’ve been wondering what if she was stuck in the snow trying to get out and the tires were spinning. Could that be what happened? Nobody is talking about that
The FKR cult has been screaming for 1 year, why didn't JM enter the house.. Now that they see that she entered the house, her sisters house,, then is she doing wrong? It was and is not a crime scene...
@@SunnyDays70sbecause no one ever ever mentioned going to the house, no one mentioned anyone coming out of it either. But then you see on surveillance- someone indeed does walk up
If it’s not a cover up, I am guessing it was an accident. She was drunk, hit him, and didn’t realize it. I wonder why they are going after murder and not manslaughter?
Couldn't agree more. In all her publicity tours, I don't think she ever denied doing it either. It you're innocent, you will come out and say you didn't do it. When somebody comes up with the elaborate coverup story, kind of makes me doubt them.
On the chat, Leezeca points out at 24:17 that Karen Read's car had anti-collision, automatic breaking, and also onstar accident alert, whatever that is. How do these systems work? Can a human over-ride these computerised systems?
When I listened I heard what the paramedic said she said.. "Is that My boyfriend?" ... ... "Is he dead?"... I Also happen to be an audio engineer... Also Im with Vinnie - Maybe the truth of what happened is some combination of both stories.
I don’t believe she was intoxicated to a point she couldn’t drive because she drove from the bar to the house and from the house home in a snowstorm. 😮
Here’s my thing, why would she be yelling out more than once that she hit him and her friend told her to be quiet?? And then she mentioned she wanted to take her life, someone that was not involved would never say those things not to mention, they found the red plastic from her reverse lights on the scene, most likely the reason why when she woke up later that morning she backed up into John’s car to make it look like that’s how her car got damaged. I’m thinking she was drunk got mad at him reversed her car into John and then went home, went to bed not realizing he had hit his head and froze to death and died, strictly my opinion,.. very curious to see how this plays out.
For him to have no bruising on his hips or legs...no way he was struck by the car..I think the people in the house did it...and I know for a fact police would lock that house down if it wasn't a set up.
I believe if it was really that cold it would have prevented the bruising because it reduces the blood leaking into the tissue. I’ve prevented bruising by using ice immediately.
She hit him in a drunken rage, probably didn’t mean to kill him… knocked him out and left him to freeze… that’s my opinion , but I’m open to change my mind if the evidence shows otherwise… but it’s very hard to keep a conspiracy going… one person always cracks 😮 especially with an immunity offer…
@@SA-Bean-Bean maybe, but it’s very difficult to keep every detail of everybody’s story exactly straight… Even if nobody cracks… but yes it is possible.
Vinnie you did a great job on this reporting- I don't feel influenced to believe either side, and that's how reporting is supposed to be. Modern day journalism has turned into a joke and just a mouthpiece for the government- but you keep it neutral, and i appreciate that.
Why did she wait until John had left the scene before she went in to wake them up. Why didn't she go and get blankets for John. Thats the first thing I would do, especially if that was my long time friend. Id be banging their door down telling them to come outside and help and bring blankets. Especially because BA is a first responder. Come on, its unbelievable she didn't go and wake them up.
And had the basement remodelled then sold the house. Who kills a cop on a first responders lawn then goes back to see what's happening? Far too many lies by LE in this case for there to be no reasonable doubt
I dont know Karen Read and I dont have a dog in the fight. But they will never be able to convince me that she did this. The evidence does NOT add up for the State. Not to mention all the nepotism, all the buddy buddy relationships, and lets not forget Auntie Bev on the bench! Apparently after yesterdays testimonies, they don't care about documenting accurately and/or timely manner. The EMT hit me like he was afraid for his job/life/relationships/future. Alan Jackson and David Yanneti are phenomenal attorneys. I dont know anything about Little but so far she doing well. And ADA Lally is puttin me to sleep!
I know personally from hours long commutes that I would be traveling appropriately 45mph in bad weather with eyes glues to windshield and glance down to see my speedometer was saying 60 because of loss of traction, and have to release gas pedal a bit. No fishtailing, just wheels slipping a bit to cause inaccurate speed.
Vinnie is the Man! I love how he has common sense unlike some others on the same network. Do they do this on purpose for different perspective? How can anyone with half a brain see all the facts in this case and conclude that Karen hit him? Use your brain people. How many pedestrian Vs 6 ton SUV accidents have no damage from the nose down?
Everyone's audio is clear except Prosecutor Lally. This is made worse by the dramatic background music inserted by Court TV. Can't these two problems be corrected?
@@toria5837How would you even know that for sure? Because of what the prosecution is saying? You don’t know for sure- unless you were by her side through this whole ordeal! And not everyone shows grief the same way.
Most importantly think of the poor O’Keefe’s who are suffering. They gave lost so much. Let’s focus on supporting them instead of fighting amongst each other….
9:57 have to have ear buds and i slowed it down and played it on a video creator tool and i hear her. It also matches word for word what she claimed before the cam came out
He wasn't beneath 6 inches of snow. His body was above the snow, right? If his body was beneath, there would be a patch of grass, that we can't see in any pictures shown so far.
You obviously haven't heard how he speaks to some of his guests.. shouting and swearing at them .. he's on the Karen is guilty bandwagon totally biased towards her .. innocent until proven guilty..
You know there are plenty of facts here so conspiracy is not the right word to the facts. One of the big red facts I cant get with people ingnoring is the damn search. No matter which way you turn it was factually on Jens phone, she factually typed that into the search engine. She also factually deleted that search. And she factually then blamed Karen for that search which she was facrually the only one whi heard Karen say that. Its her phone, her search, her delete, her actions , her lies and they are trying to blame Karen. .
I think people in the house carried JO body out to the ford edge backed up to house in driveway then drove car to the street in front of house then took his body out of the car and put him on the lawn by the road where he was eventually found by Karen, Jen and Kerry.
How the hell these women getting all this drama , literally making up scenario all negative about Karen. All that drama to cause her to kill him built up in 10 minute drive !! Remember he was texting Jennifer for directions and phone call
Where did the evidence of her car going x mph y distance come from? If it was her car computer then that could likely be slick road and spinning tires. If evidence was from her phone location then couldn't the people who had her phone and doing searches also take her phone for car ride to fabricate the going backwards evidence.
I couldnt possibly remember how many times my speedometer jumped to approx 20mph when losing traction unintentionally before realizing my tires were spinning and letting of gas pedal. So with newer automobile computer systems it's very likely that evidence is just her loss of traction. If she was about 63 ft from him and only traveling approx 22 in reverse then he would have plenty of time to move. She would have to been going 50 or 60 backwards to catch him unaware or without time to notice a car is coming at you. Be like a loud turtle or slug approaching and attacking you and you just standing there watching it.
@@jlmann8109 so your saying by video and time stamp that they could know she was traveling 22mph for 63 ft. You would have to have multiple cameras and angles to be able to conclude that distance was traveled. And really good frame of reference to know it was 22 mph.
@@jlmann8109 I am not sure you understand what I am talking about. Your saying they have a time stamp of her accelerating to 22mph in reverse for 63 ft but that camera don't see the whole view of 63 horizontal ft? Where she accelerated in reverse and his location where he was hit. I have cameras. If you have a camera on your house even just 30ft from road then your going to being able to see 63ft of roadway from where she went in reverse and he was standing. So why don't they have that full frame from camera?
A good question to ask would be if she planned to attend this party or if she was just dropping him off. Because in that case I would go with the theory that maybe she dropped him offf , given it was a party at a fellow police officers house. My theory is a argument broke out on the front of the property & she began to leave & drive away after said argument and maybe it was such a heated argument she put her car in reverse in attempt to finish the conversation and while looking back turned the wheel and struck him . Could have been purposely or accident , but given no admission of guilty I would assume purposely
The prosecutor is useless. He's got all this opportunity to come back and cross examine and explain who is Jennifer McKay. What time did you going up into the house and he is doing nothing .He will be the reason why this is a not guilty case or hung jury, he doesn't know what he's doing. Someone get the prosecutor some help or get someone to. He is really hard to watch is inexperience .
Looking at the camera footage from the first responder where and when the body was found i dont understand how karen saw johns body when nobody else did... im going to watch the full trial and listen to all the evidence before i make any conclusion though. She has presumption of innocence. I just feel its important to consider the victim and his family they deserve justice and they are the most important people in this situation. I hope the jury is fair and unbiased and is not distracted by the defendants supporters.
@ec What do you mean too late? Aren’t they not allowed near court house? Why would random people wearing pink away someone? They’d have to be awfully weak minded.
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Vinnie, it's like "Uncle Vinnie" Karen Read ASK "I Hit Him?!?!?!" After being suggested she did!! 😆
You need mods, no intelligent commenter will spend any time
Do we know who the lady was Karen was jealous of?
That judge needs to stop sighing so loud when defence are on cross it's not a good look..
she did it all pretrial too.
It is so obvious that the judge is irritated by the defense... unprofessional
She is so clearly bias it’s disgusting
Is the scene the house???? I promise you ..if they find a dead body in my front yard...my house will be searched, locked down and the whole neighborhood would be questioned.
Cops knock and talk!!
@gailjean16 right...they usually talk to the whole neighborhood..did you see anything? Do you have a ring camera?
EXACTLY!! Something just doesn’t smell right about this entire case
Right??
They explicitly were told not to go in! Absolutely egregious for an investigator!
What police officer doesn’t have cameras outside of their home…. Exactly
Yeah seems fishy!
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Or come out to see what’s going on in front of your house? Either to see if you can help or see what’s going on.
Probably why they upgraded the case from manslaughter to murder. Prosecutors going to drop the video and collect a huge payday
She was screaming right under his bedroom window. Also Jen went inside the house in the video soooooo how can they explain this away?
I LOVE that Vinnie is reporting live at a local bar! Go Vinnie!
Oh so that's why the annoying background voices ??? Okay
The voices didn’t annoy me like the music did
Me too!🌽🍖
I think it’s fun that he goes to local hangouts when he’s on site for trials
I thought they were at a hotel 😂
So, she MURDERED, not accidentally killed, MURDERED her cop boyfriend in front of his cop friends house… full of cops.
Make it make sense.
And they fought about do nuts!
She probably didn't even realize she'd hurt him.
@@EC-dz3fbHow do you hit someone with a car and not notice?
@@hopelessromantic3786 By being drunk.
@@EC-dz3fb I don't find it believable that she managed to hit him so fast with her car that he died, then didn't notice she hit a 6'2" man, got all the way home safely without hitting anything else, and then woke up with no recollection of it and the only damage to her car is a busted taillight. He didn't even have abdominal injuries. Not to mention, if she was backing out that fast and then hit something heavy, it would make noise. He didn't yell when he saw the car coming? No one was nosy enough to look out their window to see what was going on? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Someone does (or at the very least one juror) has to question why at sometime around 2AM some woman connected to that house where this body is found randomly searches for, “How long ….” That makes no sense. That is way before this “defendant” gets back in her car to find her boyfriend. That same woman also walks up to and likely into the home where this victim is dead outside of on their lawn yet NO ONE comes out from, afterward. No one is curious? There’s a dead “friend” in their yard. There’s a paramedic inside and still, nothing?!
That’s enough for doubt in my mind!
It was actually 6.30 am at Karens request also no one come out of any of the houses because the sirens weren't on ....maybe check your facts and sources 👍
did you rim turtleboy today and send him some money
@Tuesdaysdead nope it was at 237. Am check yours. No sirens give me a break if you think they just werent aware all that was going on outside their house. But if you still refuse to see whats really going on you nener will.
@@Tuesdaysdead You may want to check YOUR facts!!! You may want to listen to the hearings, pretrial hearings, opening statements, the trial itself, etc. The Feds have been investigating this investigation. The 2:27 am Google search, that was "deleted", (but you should know with all your expertise, is never completely deleted) actually happened at 2:27 am. Oh, and no one ever heard KR tell JM to google "hos long to die in cold"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Tuesdaysdead A police officer who was a first responsed who owns that house, when 2 police cars with lights a fire truck and an ambulance are parked outside your house. You will be out that house like bullet. It's just so suspicious.
I live in MA. Who can I call at the courthouse to get the judge to stop sighing during defense cross. Ugh. 😳😬🙄😨
She’s being paid to side with prosecution and she’s pissed at how she’ll pull it off without looking like a complete moron!
Good luck with that 😀
Yeah I lean towards Karen being innocent based on what we’ve Learned so far
Thank you again Vinnie Politan & COURT TV
Seems like all those cops had no problem with drunk drivers all over town !?!
They were drunk too.
Copland
I believe it is the Prosecutor's that are wrong, and they know it.
I'm glad you are covering this case, Vinnie.
agree
However, after finishing watching your two women guests...they ruined the video for me... You have had better guests.
I agree! I can't handle these two 🤦🙄. @@NYC2023-du8mg
I think the same thing I've been thinking that it's police corruption and that Karen Read was framed!
meth is very bad for you
Except she confessed.
@@zoeychrist3334typical of someone on the wrong side to call someone names.
The FBI must be on meth then, because they did a parallel investigation and came to a very different conclusion than the commonwealth. John’s injuries did not come from being hit by a car.
It would be very far fetched to have an entire police dept as well as fire dept and e m t cover up a murder .. let’s think about that ??
At the time, whether Karen hit him or Not, her response was one of SHOCK, not of a deliberate act to hurt or maim, plus
She doesn't Know if she hit him, just surmising she must have, how else would he be out there Dead in the snow.
Also, weren't his INJURIES those of a Beating, Not a car strike?
Exactly. Common sense. I appreciate your common sense
She knew she hit him, she likely didn't mean to....
You’re relying on the testimony of folks that may prove to not be reliable.
Yep and the facts point to the cop killer waz inside thee house
@@ALadyJett John never even made it to the house..
Makes no sense as to why absolutely no one from inside the home came outside when they saw all of those police lights, ambulance, etc. right out in front of a police officer’s home. You’d think they’d be curious and come out! Wild- such a bizarre case. I hope the jury gets it right because I don’t know which way to lean.
No sense. Officers didn’t knock on the door to investigate.
‘Hey, excuse me there’s a body on your lawn do you have any idea who or why there is a person dying/dead on your property?’
It’s literally infuriating the incompetence.
If you’re a police officer and there’s an event going on, right in front of your house wouldn’t you go outside? I think the homeowners line of profession would make someone even more inclined to see what’s going on. Unless you have a reason not to go outside. The weather wasn’t that bad, to the point someone would be in danger by going outside for 10 min.
I wonder if it is possible that Karen Read did leave John O'Keefe badly hurt without even realising that she had hit him, he blacked out, and from a window Jennifer McCabe realised what had gone on but didn't say anything for some unknown reason. She must have had some deep beef with John O'Keefe that nobody else doesn't know about even now.
@@LisaSimpsonRulesso where did his coat and belt go? Nobody knows where they went to. There's no way Karen hit him.
@user-sf8kw4yj6hand? So weather is going to prevent another cop who has something going on outside his home from going out to see what's going on? Uh uh no way. Especially another cop would go outside to see what all the lights were about.
So we are suppose to believe she put her suv in reverse drove 60 ft slammed into Officer O’Keefe.
He has no injuries below his neck. No injuries on his chest, waist, legs, feet?
The injuries he suffered was on his head, back of hands and scratches on his arm.
The owner of 34 Fairview had a German shepherd for 7 years and shortly after this incident, re homes the dog. Give me a break.
You must be 10 years old. Go play your GTA
And it was snowing. She must be an excellent driver. I don't believe it.
@@charitoholbrook7865 it’s so pathetic. Karen is facing life in prison, potentially.
can you read or did turtleboy tell you what to think, how sad
All correct. The injuries are consistent with getting beat in the face. Ask Brian Albert. He's MMA
And she missed the fire hydrant?
Thank you Vinnie! I didn't know where his body was in relation to the house and driveway.
Vinnie on scene is awesome!
Jennifer McCabe googling how long would you survive in the snow is a bit inconvenient for the prosecution. If there was a dead cop on my front lawn I'm dam sure I wouldn't be still asleep
you just hear what tb tells you
He wasn't on her front lawn.
@@zoeychrist3334ummm no , we just believe what the celebrite evidence and the deleted text messages tell us , moron
She will be found guilty
@@cynonthechatI agree. Jennifer will be found guilty! Too many red flags on her part.
Karen will finally be able to clear her name. All the others will end up slipping or turning against each other. Then the real through will come out
It still makes no sense to me how Karen read drove 24 miles per hour in reverse in 6k pound suv and yet, the injuries to John is so inconsistent. How do you get animal scratches on your right arm? Major red flag.
I have a real problem with the fact that they didn’t search the house or at the very least have the people inside come out and interview them. Because of that I don’t think we will ever know who killled John O’Keefe.
Brian Albert is MMA ask him.
Because they were cops anyone else would have turned the house upside down
Love your coverage. I live 10 mins from where the JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan were buried and Tammy Daybell lost her life and the care and compassion you displayed for them and their tragic cas was just impressive and awesome. You have done great covering all these cases. Thank you!
Going in reverse at 24mph can be interperted as WHEEL SPIN IN THE SNOW
That’s even worse.
Woah, I hope defense brings that up.
3 point turn in 24’ wide roadway makes it impossible to get to 24 mph in reverse. I’m sure the defense will prove that didn’t happen.
@@ApplePie.. The vehicles navigation & black box data will give them that information.
When I first heard about this case. The prosecution claimed to have video of her killing him.
I loved listening to that defense attorney at the end! He was informative and just a fun character to hear.
But this isn't a lawyer popularity contest ... It's a murder trial.
@@Ingrid-j1o Yeah, I know. I meant the commentator lawyer talking with Vinnie. Am I not allowed to say that I enjoyed listening to Vinnie's guest talk?
For the amount of injuries to John's body, the damage to the car was minimal I think she's being used as a scapegoat. It wouldn't be the first time an innocent person has gone to prison for life hopefully justice will prevail but I certainly don't think she killed him
Luvin Vinnie on location !!
💯👍 Vinnie is definitely my favorite now that Chanley is gone!!!
@@mattthompson9160 where did Chandley go? I miss her. (Sorry I misspelled her name.)
@@jenniferruth812 She went to Fox News
@@mattthompson9160 thank you!
Regret is not the same as remorse
Exactly‼️
She doesn’t even appear sad in any way regardless
@@Southernnj26 imagine either way how much it's ravishing her system on the inside... Stress on that scale , either guilty or innocent will have the same effect - Doom !!
@@ZootZinBootZ agree. Sad.
Actually regret and remorse are synonymous.
Thank you Vinny for your coverage on this case
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She's innocent. Way too many coincidences and inconsistency. I think she's 100% innocent I think you went into Jude's house and he had that dog attack him and they throw them outside after they beat the crap out of them you don't get that bad beat by getting bumped by a suv. Why else would they get rid of the dog rip up the carpet search up how long does a body stay out in the cold before it dies I mean come on now
The worst that anyone can deduce is that she “spoiled” the kids. That is not remotely an argument worthy of her killing this man over. His brother testified, as did his sister-in-law that nothing rose to heated hatred.
Even if we assume she ran him over, at best it was an accident these prosecutors based on some Medal of Honor, hero grabbing trooper conjured!
Not guilty.
He was flirting with other women. Jealousy is a huge motive. Combined with alcohol!
@@kelrogers8480 - You saw jealousy that evening? You believe her jealousy rose so high she killed a cop in front of another first responder’s home at only 25 miles per hour, in reverse?
Most people with rage do it with ferocious intention. 25 miles per hour, in reverse is too kind and you risk missing your target - who at 25 miles per hour and from where they show she started, could have easily stepped into the grass and avoided that vehicle.
@@kelrogers8480😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There is no acceptable reason as to why they didn't go to the house to interview the occupants about what was happening outside. Preliminary interviews when they just arrived with KR indicated she allegedly left him outside so he could attend an after hours party at the house! And you will have an officer say he didn't see a reason to go in and interview the occupants about the events of that night!!!!??
He came across as an insincere and dishonest. And hell bent on not accepting wrong doing on that part by the police.
Stop. Your a back seat driver without a brake pedal.
Agree. Shoddy investigation.
Agree but it was considered an accident upon arrival of scene and then state police took over .. the defense is very good at making them look incompetent
Amen. If for nothing else but to find his missing shoe. There was a party the night before. No reason at all if only for a safety check on the occupants.
@Babyd320 nor did they go inside when they were investigating it as a murder. Come on give me a break.
Ive never met Karen Read or know her personality or her personality. She may have killed that man or may not have. Thats for a court to decide. I can say,in my opinion from what ive heard so far ,I feel the police version of the truth and circumstances is a straight lie and therefore is a coverup and by extension a frame. Point blank /Period! Additionally, Karen is Smoke ❤🎉
I agree
"Karen is Smoke?" Hardly. You can tell just by looking at her that butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.
Except she confessed.
Agreed
This case wasn’t over charged. This case relied on a trooper who they couldn’t have imagined a defense legal team smart enough to challenge combined police and prosecution arrogance!
Vinnie. You really should have Melanie Little on again to talk about this case.She knows more about it than the other guests you've had on. And she continues to fight for justice for Karen Read despite being threatened and badmouthed by other TH-camrs just because they disagree. She is articulate and knowledgeable and classy. She has brought this and many other stories to me down South in Georgia.
Karen is innocent and i hope this ordeal is over for her soon.
shes gonna burn in hell get a life
No. She’s most certainly NOT “innocent”
Explain?
Angie4justice ??
I’m not a defendant supporter. I’m a truth supporter. There’s nothing -no motive!
your a fkr supporter and a liar
Edited cuz some people here over-analyze every tiny word in someones comments here: There is a little motive because she was unhappy and she was fighting with him. Every woman has some rage in her for being cheated on or hurt by their man. Could have been an accident because she is an angry drunk and just hit the gas. Now I'm going to Laugh out loud cuz you all think it's cool to get bent over another's opinion.. and Sorry Did you listen to Vinnie? Plus .. they don't need to prove motive so THE END
The prosecutor doesnt need to prove a motive, they are saying she drunkenly knocked him over
Then if that's the case you should listen to the whole trial and all the evidence before reaching any conclusion no?
@@Cumdown NO ONE has to show motive. And no, the CW is not saying she drunkenly hit him. The CW is saying she hit him on purpose. Hence the reason for the upcharge!!! All the DEFENSE has to do is to show that the CW did not meet their burdon. AND they WILL and a whole lot more. She's FACTUALLY INNOCENT!!! 🌸🌸FKR🌸🌸
Absolutely a cover up. Justice for Karen Reed.
This video is the most clear about the possibilities and the theories. The part of the video in the yard where it happened is wonderful actually, and helpful to visualise the possibilities.
And now we learn Karen McCabe calls her sister but they still don’t come out? She erases that and every other call?! Why????
This is a 50/50 case in my opinion. It could go either way but with all the public support for Karen I’m not sure the jury can truly be impartial. We will see. The only strong evidence I’ve heard from the prosecution so car is the car recording 24 MPH in reverse for 62 feet.. but I’ve been wondering what if she was stuck in the snow trying to get out and the tires were spinning. Could that be what happened? Nobody is talking about that
I agree; can't imagine any jury could be impartial at this point. 😔 Turtleriders have most likely accomplished their mission.
Very interesting point about the tires spinning in that storm
It was barely snowing at that point. Next.
His body was found with just a dusting of snow on him and about 6 under him!! It was barely snowing when she dropped him off … hmm
Yeah and how drunk was she?? That would be pretty good backing up car full speed that far to hit your target. Its not that easy.
Smoking gun for the defense - Jen McCabe walking into Sgt. Brian Albert’s house on police cruiser camera when John O’Keefe was dead in the front yard.
Please explain. I don’t understand why that is such a big deal?
The FKR cult has been screaming for 1 year, why didn't JM enter the house.. Now that they see that she entered the house, her sisters house,, then is she doing wrong?
It was and is not a crime scene...
@@nima19079 Good point - I hadn't put that together yet!
@@SunnyDays70sbecause no one ever ever mentioned going to the house, no one mentioned anyone coming out of it either. But then you see on surveillance- someone indeed does walk up
O’Keefe had already been transported from the scene.
If it’s not a cover up, I am guessing it was an accident. She was drunk, hit him, and didn’t realize it. I wonder why they are going after murder and not manslaughter?
She realizes it. Hit and run manslaughter drunk driving. Ran from scene. Returning to scene all balogna
Couldn't agree more. In all her publicity tours, I don't think she ever denied doing it either. It you're innocent, you will come out and say you didn't do it. When somebody comes up with the elaborate coverup story, kind of makes me doubt them.
She is not being framed, she did hit him be by mistake or what she did it. Justice for officer John
Nope they beat him up and left him outside to die
There's dna in the house
On the chat, Leezeca points out at 24:17 that Karen Read's car had anti-collision, automatic breaking, and also onstar accident alert, whatever that is. How do these systems work? Can a human over-ride these computerised systems?
Those poor kids. Lost parents twice. I hope they get psychological support.
When I listened I heard what the paramedic said she said.. "Is that My boyfriend?" ... ... "Is he dead?"... I Also happen to be an audio engineer... Also Im with Vinnie - Maybe the truth of what happened is some combination of both stories.
I’m starting to think that as well!
Great guests and coverage of case.
Except for Linehan. He brings zero to the table. Completely un hinged individual.
If you believe Karen is innocent he calls you a zombie .
I don’t believe she was intoxicated to a point she couldn’t drive because she drove from the bar to the house and from the house home in a snowstorm. 😮
Here’s my thing, why would she be yelling out more than once that she hit him and her friend told her to be quiet?? And then she mentioned she wanted to take her life, someone that was not involved would never say those things not to mention, they found the red plastic from her reverse lights on the scene, most likely the reason why when she woke up later that morning she backed up into John’s car to make it look like that’s how her car got damaged. I’m thinking she was drunk got mad at him reversed her car into John and then went home, went to bed not realizing he had hit his head and froze to death and died, strictly my opinion,.. very curious to see how this plays out.
Where is the body cam of the first officer on the scene?
No body cams anywhere!
An argument over donuts doesn’t make her a killer 🙄
For him to have no bruising on his hips or legs...no way he was struck by the car..I think the people in the house did it...and I know for a fact police would lock that house down if it wasn't a set up.
I believe if it was really that cold it would have prevented the bruising because it reduces the blood leaking into the tissue. I’ve prevented bruising by using ice immediately.
This is wonderful coverage! Excellent job, Vinnie! You are the best!
Lex Luther combined with Hannibal Lector, brilliantly said!!
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Proctor mccabe and karen need to take the stand
She hit him in a drunken rage, probably didn’t mean to kill him… knocked him out and left him to freeze… that’s my opinion , but I’m open to change my mind if the evidence shows otherwise… but it’s very hard to keep a conspiracy going… one person always cracks 😮 especially with an immunity offer…
That's not always true- especially when they're cops. Cops will protect EACH OTHER over ANY civilian.
@@SA-Bean-Bean maybe, but it’s very difficult to keep every detail of everybody’s story exactly straight… Even if nobody cracks… but yes it is possible.
Vinnie you did a great job on this reporting- I don't feel influenced to believe either side, and that's how reporting is supposed to be. Modern day journalism has turned into a joke and just a mouthpiece for the government- but you keep it neutral, and i appreciate that.
Why did she wait until John had left the scene before she went in to wake them up. Why didn't she go and get blankets for John. Thats the first thing I would do, especially if that was my long time friend. Id be banging their door down telling them to come outside and help and bring blankets. Especially because BA is a first responder. Come on, its unbelievable she didn't go and wake them up.
Or at least call them…
Owners changed the yard, got rid of dog.
And had the basement remodelled then sold the house. Who kills a cop on a first responders lawn then goes back to see what's happening? Far too many lies by LE in this case for there to be no reasonable doubt
I dont know Karen Read and I dont have a dog in the fight. But they will never be able to convince me that she did this. The evidence does NOT add up for the State. Not to mention all the nepotism, all the buddy buddy relationships, and lets not forget Auntie Bev on the bench! Apparently after yesterdays testimonies, they don't care about documenting accurately and/or timely manner. The EMT hit me like he was afraid for his job/life/relationships/future. Alan Jackson and David Yanneti are phenomenal attorneys. I dont know anything about Little but so far she doing well. And ADA Lally is puttin me to sleep!
When the witness says 'I couldn't understand anything.' I couldn't either. Did somebody even say anything on the first one?
The defense should have been able to have jurors and witness hear the audio through headphones.
They will let them do that when they deliberate.
How was this audio allowed into court
Awesome job Vinnie.
I just cannot get over the sheer amount of drinks, especially in snow like that
Glad vinnie doe covering this
I can’t take 4 hours watching the trial thank you vinnie
I know personally from hours long commutes that I would be traveling appropriately 45mph in bad weather with eyes glues to windshield and glance down to see my speedometer was saying 60 because of loss of traction, and have to release gas pedal a bit. No fishtailing, just wheels slipping a bit to cause inaccurate speed.
This is a bad look, MA Police. Bad fkin look. Embarrassing.
I think she's innocent, and if not there's a hell of a lot of reasonable doubt.
Vinnie is the Man! I love how he has common sense unlike some others on the same network. Do they do this on purpose for different perspective? How can anyone with half a brain see all the facts in this case and conclude that Karen hit him? Use your brain people. How many pedestrian Vs 6 ton SUV accidents have no damage from the nose down?
Cover up. The time line is what will get the guys in the house that beat him up. There's evidence in the house
What an embarrassment on the police force in Boston.
I think she was framed! I hope those truly responsible are held accountable. I say free Karen Read
You think an entire police dept .. fire dept .first responders and whole house full of people framed her ? Doesn’t make sense to me
It’s not that many people.
They just cover for each other.
@@Babyd320 I believe it's police corruption. It goes on alot more than some people realize
Everyone's audio is clear except Prosecutor Lally. This is made worse by the dramatic background music inserted by Court TV. Can't these two problems be corrected?
Vinnie is a real Winner, love you Vinnie. ❤
I completely agree with the last attorney. Why is everyone so black and white with this case?! It’s frustrating. This case is overcharged.
I cannot wait until this poor heart broken and stressed woman is done with this nightmare! Could not imagine her life
She has never shown any remorse for the O 'Keefe family at all very narcissistic
@@toria5837How would you even know that for sure? Because of what the prosecution is saying? You don’t know for sure- unless you were by her side through this whole ordeal! And not everyone shows grief the same way.
These ladies created all the bs they just said . They don’t like Karen . I don’t like Jennifer made self entitled, above the law
Most importantly think of the poor O’Keefe’s who are suffering. They gave lost so much. Let’s focus on supporting them instead of fighting amongst each other….
I agree.. the O’Keefe family 🙏🥹😔😰
Very well said. 🙏
Couldn't agree more
9:57 have to have ear buds and i slowed it down and played it on a video creator tool and i hear her. It also matches word for word what she claimed before the cam came out
The toxicity of alcoholics in a relationship are at the base of this whole tragedy.
The audio issue , there is plenty of Audio software that could isolate and enhance the original poor quality, why hasn’t this been used ???
She was drunk not clueless
So, she was "too nice" to his kids? Whaaaattt?
My gut tells me she's guilty!
Facts are telling me she's quite possibly innocent.
glad the jury doesnt have to trust your gut
Well case closed then. 🙄
He wasn't beneath 6 inches of snow. His body was above the snow, right? If his body was beneath, there would be a patch of grass, that we can't see in any pictures shown so far.
Kevin Lenihan is by far the most logical and trusted voice in this crazy case. His perspective is invaluable.
Who is he
He has a You Tube channel called Yellow Cottage Tales.
You obviously haven't heard how he speaks to some of his guests.. shouting and swearing at them .. he's on the Karen is guilty bandwagon totally biased towards her .. innocent until proven guilty..
No thanks.
Kevin Lenihan is a mouthpiece for the McAlberts.
I hope the jury sees through her lying butt. I believe she is totally guility.
Yeah i think they overcharged. It's going to be really hard to prove 2nd degree murder imo
You know there are plenty of facts here so conspiracy is not the right word to the facts.
One of the big red facts I cant get with people ingnoring is the damn search. No matter which way you turn it was factually on Jens phone, she factually typed that into the search engine. She also factually deleted that search. And she factually then blamed Karen for that search which she was facrually the only one whi heard Karen say that. Its her phone, her search, her delete, her actions , her lies and they are trying to blame Karen. .
The police got a call to respond to 35 and the body is at 34. Why didn’t the police interview the people in 35 and 34 or any of the neighbors
I'm waiting to hear the 911 and who made it?
I find the case questionable on both sides. Therefore legally you must find her not guilty.. Right?
I think people in the house carried JO body out to the ford edge backed up to house in driveway then drove car to the street in front of house then took his body out of the car and put him on the lawn by the road where he was eventually found by Karen, Jen and Kerry.
I think that’s what they did too.
How the hell these women getting all this drama , literally making up scenario all negative about Karen. All that drama to cause her to kill him built up in 10 minute drive !! Remember he was texting Jennifer for directions and phone call
Where did the evidence of her car going x mph y distance come from? If it was her car computer then that could likely be slick road and spinning tires.
If evidence was from her phone location then couldn't the people who had her phone and doing searches also take her phone for car ride to fabricate the going backwards evidence.
There is a time stamp of when the car accelerates.
I couldnt possibly remember how many times my speedometer jumped to approx 20mph when losing traction unintentionally before realizing my tires were spinning and letting of gas pedal. So with newer automobile computer systems it's very likely that evidence is just her loss of traction.
If she was about 63 ft from him and only traveling approx 22 in reverse then he would have plenty of time to move. She would have to been going 50 or 60 backwards to catch him unaware or without time to notice a car is coming at you. Be like a loud turtle or slug approaching and attacking you and you just standing there watching it.
Like watching a slow slug or turtle, that you knowingly pssed off, come at you with a 3ton machine or weapon.
@@jlmann8109 so your saying by video and time stamp that they could know she was traveling 22mph for 63 ft.
You would have to have multiple cameras and angles to be able to conclude that distance was traveled. And really good frame of reference to know it was 22 mph.
@@jlmann8109 I am not sure you understand what I am talking about.
Your saying they have a time stamp of her accelerating to 22mph in reverse for 63 ft but that camera don't see the whole view of 63 horizontal ft? Where she accelerated in reverse and his location where he was hit.
I have cameras. If you have a camera on your house even just 30ft from road then your going to being able to see 63ft of roadway from where she went in reverse and he was standing. So why don't they have that full frame from camera?
A good question to ask would be if she planned to attend this party or if she was just dropping him off. Because in that case I would go with the theory that maybe she dropped him offf , given it was a party at a fellow police officers house. My theory is a argument broke out on the front of the property & she began to leave & drive away after said argument and maybe it was such a heated argument she put her car in reverse in attempt to finish the conversation and while looking back turned the wheel and struck him . Could have been purposely or accident , but given no admission of guilty I would assume purposely
They have nothing on her, they are reaching for the wind!!!! She is innocent!! Set her FREE!!!!!!
The prosecutor is useless. He's got all this opportunity to come back and cross examine and explain who is Jennifer McKay. What time did you going up into the house and he is doing nothing .He will be the reason why this is a not guilty case or hung jury, he doesn't know what he's doing. Someone get the prosecutor some help or get someone to. He is really hard to watch is inexperience .
Looking at the camera footage from the first responder where and when the body was found i dont understand how karen saw johns body when nobody else did... im going to watch the full trial and listen to all the evidence before i make any conclusion though. She has presumption of innocence. I just feel its important to consider the victim and his family they deserve justice and they are the most important people in this situation. I hope the jury is fair and unbiased and is not distracted by the defendants supporters.
Too late. 😔
@ec
What do you mean too late?
Aren’t they not allowed near court house?
Why would random people wearing pink away someone?
They’d have to be awfully weak minded.
Wouldnt his legs be injured someway being hit usually thats point of impact on hit padestrians
Exactly
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