You've convinced me that I should purchase the Engineers Black Book. To repay the favor, I'd like to apprise you that the Machinery's Handbook is available in PDF format;-) It overcomes all the issues you've raised regarding the paper version. With word searches, it's quick and easy to find information and it's easily accessible when doing CAD. I also have it loaded on tablets for use in the shop. I haven't opened my paper version in years, but I often print pages from the PDF version and make notes on them for specific projects.
I purchesed the .pdf version with the book as a combined package. My only issue is the craptastic copy protection required. I often have difficulties accessing the file. When it does work, it is as useful as you have pointed out.
@@DudleyToolwright The issues you're having accessing the secured PDF are likely caused by the reader you're using. Though secured PDF's can be accessed via Adobe's reader, it can have problems with large PDF's like The Machinery's Handbook. I've found third party PDF readers to be worthless with secured files. I prefer Acrobat. I haven't had any issues accessing TMH with it, and it's an indispensable program if you work with PDF's. If you are using Acrobat and having issues, you may need to install some updates, but I doubt that this is the situation because Acrobat is pretty good with notifications.
My buddy Eldon got he new version of the Black Book and gave me his old one. I agree, they're awesome. The Machinery's Handbook is excellent but like you say I don't want to destroy the pages and sometimes all I need is a basic thread spec. Good review of the book.
Finally got my Black Book in today it got lost and ended up in Ohio before I got it straightened out. Think I am in love with this book whisked I had it years ago.
I have the second edition Black Book , absolutely brilliant a great section on insert sizes / types . You are right about the Machinery's Handbook , my one the 20th edition was handed down to me by my Father & i try to keep it out of regular shop use to keep it in reasonable condition . Cheers .
That is quite amazing. I am now the owner of the 19th edition Machinery's Handbook that was my Fathers. I never touch it w/dirty hands. I was going to say BTW I love your channel, but you already know that. Cheers 👍
I don't know if they have fixed it already, but my pocket version of the 3rd edition of engineers black book has a typo on page 36. It lists the thread percentage for the minor diameter for UNC bolts. My 2019 BarZ summer bash version is correct though. You can check to see if there are updates on their site, and if there is, they will send you out a sticker to correct the information. Thought it might be useful if anyone else has this issue.
So far I've been winging it (I told you I'm a noob lol). I think its time I get me one of them book. I wonder if they have it as an app, put it on a tablet, and put the tablet in a ziplock. I'd be like: Yo Black Book tell me the numbers I wana use.
Mark Owen I’m no expert, but the difference between 1 written in ¿the 20’s? And 30 being the most recent I’d say it’s huge. Does the average home shop guy need the newest? Not unless your doing major CNC work. Anything after 18th or 19h edition is probably sufficient.
@@DudleyToolwright I should have been more careful making a comment. I didn't mean useless. For me, most of the book I would never use. If I was young and/or did a lot more than just the basics, I would surely get one. Anyway I gave you a 👍.
You've convinced me that I should purchase the Engineers Black Book. To repay the favor, I'd like to apprise you that the Machinery's Handbook is available in PDF format;-)
It overcomes all the issues you've raised regarding the paper version. With word searches, it's quick and easy to find information and it's easily accessible when doing CAD. I also have it loaded on tablets for use in the shop. I haven't opened my paper version in years, but I often print pages from the PDF version and make notes on them for specific projects.
I purchesed the .pdf version with the book as a combined package. My only issue is the craptastic copy protection required. I often have difficulties accessing the file. When it does work, it is as useful as you have pointed out.
@@DudleyToolwright The issues you're having accessing the secured PDF are likely caused by the reader you're using.
Though secured PDF's can be accessed via Adobe's reader, it can have problems with large PDF's like The Machinery's Handbook. I've found third party PDF readers to be worthless with secured files. I prefer Acrobat. I haven't had any issues accessing TMH with it, and it's an indispensable program if you work with PDF's.
If you are using Acrobat and having issues, you may need to install some updates, but I doubt that this is the situation because Acrobat is pretty good with notifications.
My buddy Eldon got he new version of the Black Book and gave me his old one. I agree, they're awesome. The Machinery's Handbook is excellent but like you say I don't want to destroy the pages and sometimes all I need is a basic thread spec. Good review of the book.
I am tight there with you. Imagine how thick the Machinery's handbook would be if they used coated pages...
Finally got my Black Book in today it got lost and ended up in Ohio before I got it straightened out. Think I am in love with this book whisked I had it years ago.
It is an excellent reference. It seems to be all of the most common bits of info from the machiery's handbook.
I love my Engineers Black Book. At the time I purchased only the Pocket Size edition was available. Now the large edition is also available.
It is amazing helpful to have the larger type. I purchased a large type version of the Machinery's Handbook as well. Poor eyesight sucks.
You should check out the 'machinist's ready reference' which is what trade schools use.. I use it more than any other book.
Thanks .Will do. I appreciate you costing me money...;)
I have the second edition Black Book , absolutely brilliant a great section on insert sizes / types . You are right about the Machinery's Handbook , my one the 20th edition was handed down to me by my Father & i try to keep it out of regular shop use to keep it in reasonable condition . Cheers .
It really tore me up the first time I was looking something up and left a bunch of fingerprints all over the pages...
That is quite amazing. I am now the owner of the 19th edition Machinery's Handbook that was my Fathers. I never touch it w/dirty hands.
I was going to say BTW I love your channel, but you already know that. Cheers 👍
Yes Sir! The Black Book is an indispensable tool in my shop, I keep the Machinery’s Hand Book in the house!
After the first few greasy fingerprints left on the pages, I learned my lesson. Clean hands only!
Can you please send me a scan copy ?please
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Just ordered me one should be here tomorrow!
Nice video
Watching in Alabama
Excellent. The publishers are really focused on helping the machinist community and I really like to give back.
I got a summer bash version myself. I really like it. Thanks.
Excellent. A worthy company to support.
I don't know if they have fixed it already, but my pocket version of the 3rd edition of engineers black book has a typo on page 36. It lists the thread percentage for the minor diameter for UNC bolts. My 2019 BarZ summer bash version is correct though. You can check to see if there are updates on their site, and if there is, they will send you out a sticker to correct the information. Thought it might be useful if anyone else has this issue.
Excellent to know thanks!.
Great video Dudley! Thanks
Thanks.
Very nice break down. Thank you!!
Thanks. Apparently you an I work in the same industry - if your name applies.
I work in aviation sheetmetal, would you recommend this book to me or is there another book on the market better suited?
I find the book useful, but I am not sure what your exact needs are.
Thanks
No problem
Is it equipped with an index?
Depth, yes around the circumference.
Seems a shame you need to buy both inch and metric books if you usually work with both as I do.
An excellent point. It would be great if they made a combined edition.
So far I've been winging it (I told you I'm a noob lol). I think its time I get me one of them book. I wonder if they have it as an app, put it on a tablet, and put the tablet in a ziplock. I'd be like: Yo Black Book tell me the numbers I wana use.
That would be nice. I don't think it is available at this time. I would be interested as well.
@@DudleyToolwright Nope nothing yet. I did find some apps, but not very good tho. The search is on. If I find something decent I'll post it here.
HELLO U R GOOD . how dawnlod this bocks free !
thank you .
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Can anyone please send me a copy of that book ?
If I had a spare it would be yours.
@@DudleyToolwright wow thanks but how would you send it to me ?
How different is book 1 to book 30?
Mark Owen I’m no expert, but the difference between 1 written in ¿the 20’s? And 30 being the most recent I’d say it’s huge. Does the average home shop guy need the newest? Not unless your doing major CNC work. Anything after 18th or 19h edition is probably sufficient.
If you are talking about the Machinist's hand book I agree with the commentor below.
Masheanary hand book.
Masheanary hand book.
I noticed my mistake when responding to another comment and then went back looking to correct my error, but couldn't find it. I guess you did. Thanks.
4 inches wow.
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So basically the book is filled with a lot of useless information.
Costing $40 I think I will pass.
Odd you think useless. Possibly redundant.
@@DudleyToolwright I should have been more careful making a comment. I didn't mean useless. For me, most of the book I would never use. If I was young and/or did a lot more than just the basics, I would surely get one.
Anyway I gave you a 👍.