Finally, a new video 😅 I hope you guys are having a nice weekend 💪🏻 What first thing should I play from the next update? (I feel like it should go live next week)
its like that on purpose ... if anything they think it should be even worse to force more people to pay, they even screwed the economy so much even people that did pay were squeezed more and more to spend cash on progression directly...
Finally someone showed it: skill is the biggest influence in this game. And on money earnings KD ratio. And someone can cry that the economy is fu...ed up: on planes in the days when invited friends were building me a Golden Eagles wallet, it took 8 hours of playing to make the 4th era. Hands up: who abhorred such friendship? XD! I don't think anyone complained then that it wasn't fair, right?
@@Asghaad My friend, economics is not about sitting on a heap of money no matter how skilled you are. That's what communism is all about. Gaijin has to make money because it is the same company as an internet provider or an apple seller. If you don't like its economy, don't play it. There are 2,000 vehicles in the game today. Let Gaijin give you one for every day you play - no matter how skilled you are. It will take you...5 years to get all the vehicles: ONLY FOR DAILY LOGIN TO THE GAME. Even with GJ's generosity, many people would not be willing to do so. Is that a reason to cry? Me: on a rank 2 plane (has a free talisman) I'm already inventing a 7th jet. It takes me about 2-3 weeks of playing, but a KD ratio of 2/1 is enough. In fact, I play a lot. Because that's the price of free play, you have to fill servers for people: who pay for new vehicles, talismans, premium account. If you don't like it, play DCS. You will have some two free planes, the rest at the GJ premium price.
I have a comparison to one premium aircraft - A7M1. Prior to last year's eco changes, I earned around 130,000 SL for 4 kills and won the battle. After the changes, I earned around 90,000 SL for 4 kills and a battle won. So in this case, the overall economy dropped by about 30%. But every vehicle have different SL multiplier. But each vehicle in the game had its multiplier changed differently so it's hard to quantify.
I recently saw a guy on one video saying that "Content creators should start a new account and show Gaijin and other people how the grind is first hand" And Dollar does exactly that, that's why you're the GOAT, humble to the end.
Of course though, he is an experienced player with all the map knowledge and muscle memory that comes with it. The true new player experience is a bit harsher. Heck, just try playing with just the default controls...
Yeah, good veteran war thunder player managed to unlock tier 1, buy tanks and crews in 4 hours. Was left with +30k SL. He most likely won most of his games and averaged between 5-10 kills in each game. Now let's see stats when a complete new comer starts fresh. He has no idea of the maps, doesn't know weak spots and how to aim accurate. This kinda player will most likely win max 50% of his games (if lucky with teams) and probably averages around 0.5 - 1.0 KD. Let's see how far will he progress and how many SL will he have floating around after 4 hours...
@@JackTheNoober I can assure you, at 4 hours I was still trying to unlock maybe my 1st or 2nd tank that I didn't start with. I quit the game because I can't be bothered grinding it. But I do love watching WT videos still.
@@JackTheNooberhonestly I was thinking of starting to play WT, but not after seeing all the comments (yours was the cherry on top) I think I'll just... watch from now on.
Absolutely love this video seeing experienced CCs play in a non prem F2P account you dont always see that. Been playing WT for nearly 6 years. I only bought the Premium Account like 2 or 3 times (never the BP tho) to progress a bit faster for the Italian and Japanese Tech tree and this was like 2 years ago. Lately the rewards have been lacking, I find myself in some matches getting nearly 12 kills in 4.7-6.3 matches only to get something below around 60k SL and a measly RP which is a frustrating grind and time consuming. Really losing hope in this beautiful but head-ache inducing game
I think it doesn't make sense, a few years ago the game needed a lot of traffic on the servers because the waiting time for the AB game in airplanes was comparable to the game itself. Today, even when entering a simulation game, you always have a few people on the server and zero seconds of waiting. The game has reached the level of monetization of years of effort and is doing just that. Its premise has always been: for free players to stimulate the game for paying players. But it's probably ridiculous to think that there can't be differences in the progress of the two types of players. Buying a talisman on even a low-rank plane is enough for half the tree as you quickly discover it. Someone who plays for free for several years: can't even afford such an expense?
@@Wujek_Dobra_Rada Some of us don't think you should spend 20 dollars to take off 52 hours of gameplay on tier 7 tanks just saying buddy. not that we can't afford it, we arent throwing money into this game just because they make the grind longer
What got me interested in WT was that the M60A2 dontcallitstarship was modelled in the game. So I made the rookie mistake of thinking I'd be able to play it soon after starting to play (insert evil maniacal snail laugh here). I rage quit for like six months due to this realization and general asshattery of WT game play. I then found my zen and realized that the game has no end. It is a perpetual grind. In fact the grind IS the game. Actually playing the vehicles is secondary to the "War Accountant" meta game. There is no reason to buy premiums because you aren't in a hurry. Game play isn't fundamentally different between reserve and top-tier. Its all just driving and flying around the same maps ruining other people's games. So I now play casually and patiently at the pace I can put up with, which is usually just the assaults and enough games to use the freebie boosters it gives.
I agree. The game is good.. textures, models, terrain deformation, FX, variety of modes, vehicles, simulation of damage when shells impact enemies, etc. but economy, fuuuh, keeps me far from this game, I eventually play sometimes but grind tech tree is painnnnnn. Also play WoWS wich is similar, but easy to level up (IMHO).
Thank you so much Dollar for doing this. So many content creators have no clue what actual players are having to go through on WT. Phly tried to do this but quickly abandoned it to go back to his press account.
i ground germany f2p for like 80% of the tree, the only premium time i got was a total of like 50 days and i played mainly russian and american during the premium time, got to 7.7 germany, took me 900 hours and 2 years to get here, im proud of the work ive done, i have like 2 premium german tanks and that is IT, and i bought them on sale and they arent even my top earning german tanks, the grind is tough, many nights of 5 AM gaming brought me here and im still lacking in the tree for air
@@Trashpanda115 brother im on 2 days of gameplay, terrible at tanks but good at planes(6-8 kills/battle) but not loving, problem is....... i liked the helicopters and my favorite are slower and calm sea battles, how do you think i should Proceed, currently the only nation im playing is Japan 😅
@@resolutogamer4859 as a person who has played almost no japan i have no idea, i just know that you should go for the zeros (A6M fighters in left of tree) for air battles and im not sure about naval
Hi I have grinded full japan tree ( plane and tanks) without any premium vehicle or account. I was very painful and thx Dollar to represent a little bit of our pain 😊
How much did you have KD after those 4 hours? I think most complete newbies struggle to get even to 1KD when new with the game. You managed to unlock stuff, buy it and was left with 30k+. I'd like to see results with average new player stats, how long would it take and how much SL they earn.
@@JackTheNooberI’m a new player I only started last weekend. I’m T3 USA naval, and T2 Italian army, T2 German army and that’s all. It’s clear to me even at these low tiers Germany is the best tank nation and it’s not even close
@@Ginamy72 actually Sweden is best currently. It has a better Leopard 2 variant than Germany for some reason :) Sweden gets pretty much both, their Leo 2(Strv122) variants and also Finnish normal Leo 2s.
Years ago I managed to get 1 million SL after a year of grinding Germany with a premium account while unemployed. These days I am struggling to stay above 300K. First three ranks are fun, after that the grind really starts. A good video to watch before bed. Would like to see more of the "Free to Play Experience."
As someone who has been free to play for about 850 hours the grind definitely begins to worsen at about rank 4 because that's around when repair costs begin to rise and rewards dont feel like they scale with research needed as much as they did but from what i can remember the grind up to rank 4 is somewhat bearable depending on the nation and player skill especially with the compressed BRs which mean tanks with stabilisers and sometimes laser range finders fight tanks without both but that's a whole different can of worms
oh yeah its real! esp the US Aviation line which suffers HORRIBLY from being underpowered unlike IRL and the ground is just a mess with things line the M18 being placed at 5.7 with a 76mm gun and the M36 being a 5.3 with a 90mm gun! #AmericaSuffers
I mean, even this video shows just how bad the grind is, even a low tier. A professional player (Pro in the sense of making money playing the game) with TONS of time in the game, getting a double ace of 11 kills, including an air kill in a tank, with a booster, in a reserve rank vehicle (Meaning all kills were on things of equal or higher BR), and still doesn't even earn enough to research a single rank 1 vehicle. That was gameplay so far above the average game that it should've been worth like a vehicle and a half, considering how little the rank 1 vehicle are. Average game for what I've seen on scoreboards are like 2-4 kills a game. I've seen lots get nothing, and several get 10+
I know it may not be something your particularly interested in doing. But i would quite love to see you play this account *or another new one* in one faction tree, and see how long it'd take. free to play. to get ONE top tier vehicle. with all the knowledge, skill and patience you have. hell i'd enjoy just one video a week on the trip to top tier :)
As someone on this very journey it takes a long time. That said i'm going through the JP air tree and with how little there is past 9.0 progress feels fast enough. finally got the T-2 on new years day which was top tier when i first launched the game and my goal ever since.
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 yeah.......rank V is going to be the death of me. I'm already having problems with jets and guided missiles in rank IV And to top it off, the maps I get are just horrible. I have way better luck in Rank II
US main as well, with over 1k hrs on steam. I only JUST got US early jets, and that was only after I purchased the A10 on release. Still not even out of the Shermans yet on ground (highest is the early Super Pershing)
It’s not worth it. In that same time you could have completed dozens of other games, even RPGs. WarThunder is just the same battle modes on the same loop over and over. And then every other month, Gaijin does something asinine to piss off the players, who ultimately end up accepting it and continue playing anyway.
4:00 the stabiliser doesn't work at full speed, it only works if you're moving forwards on low speed. To be more technical: it isn't an actual stabiliser but a shoulder stock for the gunner, the gunner is holding the trigger for the tank gun like a rifle while looking through the tank gunner sight, so this gives the gunner a small amount of "stabilization". Only early tanks have this, the panzer II, panzer 35/38 (t) amongst others.
And notice that him, a veteran that ends up first in every match with 5 to 10 kills, is making about 5k SL a match. Now imagine your average newbie that gets 1 - 3 kills per match at most... that's insane and we're just at rank 1. Edit: As someone who's played this game for almost a decade, I can perfectly survive the current economy and don't have much SL shortages at all, but I want to defend new playes. The few times I've managed to get friends into War Thunder, they usually say it's a very good game and then starve to death within the first week and just quit because they feel hindered at every step.
As a new player that picked up the game this year after watching your videos I played regularly everyday after work for at least 1-2 hours for at least a month I uninstalled the game wasn’t really fun due to the constant 1 shots and it feeling like no matter how well I did I still wasn’t progressing down the American tree at all
Did a right thing. Save your time and don't play this game or play something different. Playing diablo4 right now after deleting warthunder because needed some space. Feels good to dont waste time on Wt anymore.
With the 2nd rank plane, I reveal the 7th jet. It takes me 2-3 weeks. FW190 A1 with free talisman. Yes, I play more than 1-2 hours a day. I'll repeat what I wrote above: Even if Gaijin gave you one vehicle per day: JUST ONLY FOR LOGGING INTO THE GAME, you'd get all the vehicles in the game in ... five years. Question: why would he give you something for free with the effort of watching a movie on Netflix? Don't you understand it's a company, not Santa Claus? As you've seen in the video in this game, you can reach the 4th era in a few hours - enough to decide if it's worth paying for, and then pay for the creators' effort or go the harder, free way. If someone hasn't bought anything after playing the game for several years, they have no right to complain that it's difficult. Progress in similar games costs hundreds or thousands of euros, why should Gaijin be Mother Teresa?
i've have been grinding america and haven't played in weeks due to the same issue. at 5.7 i cannot afford the next tank so i cannot progress and console makes things much harder.
Each time I watch one of your videos of WT I think to myself Mmm, maybe I should play this game again. So I download it, begin to play it and then after about 30 minutes or so I remember exactly why I uninstalled it in the first place. For a new player in the game this game has a very steep learning curb, it also doesn't help that even tho you are new to the game you can play against players that have been playing for years and know the maps inside out. And the less we say about the economy the better. Free to play/ =yes do you need premium account?=if you want to progress into the T10's definitely but don't expect to make loads of money you will be lucky if you break even. Great video as always DOLLAR, have a great weekend my friend
I am mostly free to play, i don’t use premium and the only time I spent money was to boost research for Germany as I had progressed a bit on a diff account whilst my main was locked out to catch up after I had recovered the account so I know the pain of grinding for vehicles without premium but it is also kind of relaxing not having to worry about subscriptions, money and stuff. I have wanted warthunder to be more accessible for free2play players so I am participating in the boycott in hopes it will work. Thanks for the video.
10 Kill victory in the IPM1 where i was very active = 20K SL. One tank at that BR is 8k repair cost. Free to play you need ~4+ kills per spawn JUST TO BE NET ZERO. You have to realize just how insane that is. You need a Kill / Death ratio of 4 just to be NET ZERO. We're not talking about profit here, just ZERO.
I noticed that with my mosquito. Took out a tiger and some panther looking thing, plus a big attacker looking plane (no idea what), just broke even. Like, what?! Thsoe three vehicles could have done a lot of damage to my team, surely i should get some better pay for that!
After more than 900 hours I finally used premium to go a bit faster on tank trees that I didn't play. It was night and day. The amount of point you get for doing nothing is crazy. With a friend we compared when one of us only gets one kill and a cap with premium and the other has 5 kills and a cap and no premium. The guy with no premium even with more kills got around 200/300 less research points. Let's not even talk about money, you get double the amount of money with premium.
8:53 with that kind of performance and barely getting 2k research with a small booster.. for a 1.0 br match.. when you get to the point where you don't only have to grind 400-500k worth of research but also need millions to buy the unlocked vehicles.. felt different from long ago where you can unlock new vehicles after a match with that performance.. now it's a struggle to even get to tier 3 if you play casually
Im a Free to Play German Main and i started around mid 2020 to play. Ive got luck bc i got 1mil of Sl which help me go through tier 4 but Tier 5 was the the Tier where everything slowed down like you said. If you have to play 3 years and even more to get to top tier then you know smth wrong. Good Video Dollar keep it up my man.
Hey Dollar ! I suggest when the update hits you do some 3.7 sweden, because their lineup is getting ultra strong ! Like Pz IV, T-34, Sherman, S.A.V, personnally I'm quite hyped for that lol
Having a rough day and A new Dollar video immediately cheers me up. Phly brought me to War Thunder, nut Dollar keeps me coming back. Your content is second to none!
You'd like the british line, we have solid shot which will either send a tiger to the shadow rhelm or be eaten by the commander for breakfast and he'll turn a bit orange. There is no middle ground here! :P
@@Llamazone-Prime oh my lord, im at 7.0 rn in the british tree and what you said is so damn true, yesterday i shot a tiger II in the turret, it got sent into space, then his buddy came rushing in another tiger II and I fired at the same exact spot, and all I got was "Hit" and A GODDAMN ORANGE AMMO RACK
@@chickendrumstick1569 Its so painful sometimes. Last night i unlocked the Charioteer and oh my, its nice being able to pen things compared to the Churchill 7, but the damage is rubbish! Surely an 84mm round would at least stun the person it just hit!? :P
@@Llamazone-Prime its the same with the baby Sabot rounds, surely a 4kg dart to the face would knock someone out? But nooo, if fired from a british tank, its like a foam toy ball hitting the crew, is Gaijin taking the piss??
For the curious, playing the Japanese seagoing fleet tree to the Kongo will take you less than a year and a half without premium. True, it took me two years, but it was because when I started it wasn't yet the scale of the ocean and the coastal so the last ship I had ended up in the coastal [sorry my engleso bad]
Wassup dollar! I have a recommendation! You should play the weisle 1a2. It's super duper fun. Definitely check it out. Also makes for great content. Keep up the great vids man ❤
3am for me as I'm enjoying a late night weekend of gaming. Prepping for bed right now with a Dollar vid and cereal. Good way to finish my night. Cheers man
I have started playing war thunder like 3 days ago and I got to say it's kinda tough seeing my tank firing bb bullets while getting sent into oblivion by just 1 bullet.
the thing is tier 1 and most tier 2 is easy to grind as the rp/money ratio for a new vehicle is fairly good. the problem is it doesnt scale up the further you go into the tree. which makes it so damn tedious and hard
And its entirely intentional. Gaijin baits you in with making low tier easy(er) and fun(er), and then cranks up the costs in Tier III hoping the sunk-cost fallacy will make you just break down and pay.
I’m a new player when compared to most players. I have been playing for about 31 hours and have only been able to get one tier 2 tank on germany and I’m currently grinding the italian air tree. This game is hell to grind in ground forces. I wish it would be a little easier to grind ground tree. To put i. some context this was before the economy reforms. Just shows how much has changed. I’m a very happy man.
love the Lt. Horatio approval at 2:56 hahahhaa coincide with one of channel in my cable tv subscription that shows csi: miami (yes, even though that shows was from 6-7 years ago 😢)
The hard part is to go from 5.7 to 6.7 jump and from 6.7 to 7.3 as a free to play player! I have 361 hours and I was struggling so much to get past the leopard 1 and m48. Fortunately, I stopped playing long ago because it was getting frustrating hahaha... especially air RB... 5-10 minutes to fly to the battlefield only to get smoked by a level 100 player...
Finally a video answering the all important question: What if god was one of us? Just a broke ass low-tier scrub like one of us? But seriously this is probably my favorite tiers of play after 7-8 years on the grind. Just around the new year I FINALLY broke into 7.0 for the first time with Germany and my next highest loadouts are all still just reaching 5.0/5/3 and I almost always end up only doing one or two rounds before I am fed up and go back to rank 2. 2.3-3.3 in my experience will always be the sweet spot for f2p grinding. The cost of entry for new vehicles is still low enough that you can make your money back before the next vehicle is unlocked and unlocks are still cheap enough that your match winnings usually cover any new unlocks on components you still have. The one time I bought premium vehicles about 4-5 months ago to use mainly for grinding I got the b1-ter and the French premium p-40 and throwing them both on a tier 2 french loadout and its been the best grinding I have ever had. Worth the relatively small cost to get the two premiums for better results. Before that Germany and Italy tier 2 were probably the best for grinding without a premium vehicle.
where the challenge starts is tier 4+, its rewarding at start to get you hooked then when the money and xp starts to halt you are more inclined to spend
I came across these videos a year or so ago and thought, WT looks fun I’ll give it a try, but won’t spend on any of the pay to win stuff. Quit after about a month or two, got to mid-4 BR if I remember correctly, it really is max depression haha this video really speaks to my experience
Remember guys, dollar has a lot more experience than a regular new player, knowing maps, weak points, and being able to estimate ranges. Even his current gameplay is considered above average for new players.
I still remember playing with you in one of the older From Low Tier to Top Tier videos :D i didnt notice you were there until the video released but it was still fun ^_^
In my experience you can unlock without premium or premium vehicles until rank III anything beyond that really becomes a struggle. Forget unlocking last tiers without premium time AND talismans or premium vehicles. So choose what you want to grind, use your boosters when you need them and exploit the high ones (300% up) on simulator modes to "hyperspeed" the grind
A FTP player should never play without a booster active. Even when you have a good game, the rewards are often not worth the time spent, much less the repair costs.
As a f2p who has been "playing" (with absolutely 0 consistency to the point where a week of grinding China almost got me to the same BR as my "main") since March/May 2013, welcome to the grind hell.
I started in 2021. Pure hell. I havent spent a dime on the game. I almost got to rank 5, then the game became too frustrating for me and I quit about 2 months ago. It was not the gameplay itself that was frustrating, it was the fact that each time I died i would lose a big amount of my SL on repair, constantly being in the fear of going broke. Every vehicle purchase was a nightmare, buying a new tank always carried the risk of bankrupcy.
something about low tier gameplay that makes life more relaxing.. It's combat in it's raw form. you vs me with only a few chunks of metal in between. no helos, no drones.. no missiles.. Rank 1 and 2 are designed for you to go through fast and feel accompliment so you will invest in it more. Rank 3+ is where they screw you. Coincidentally that is also where all teh event objectives are located.
I am so incredibly lucky to live in a time where i can just stumble across this butiful soul while sitting on the couch scratching my bawls.... we truly live in the best time. LMAO it's love at first watch GOD DAM you're hilarious ahhahaha
I have been playing this game for almost 5 years without premium account and still stuck at 8.7, still level 83 in my account it's painful but and a fun experience. I am now planning to delete the game because of recent drama I hope new players find this game entertaining and stay at low br.
My 11 yr. old son started a new account to take advantage of the "weeb special" to get 4 low tier premiums (3 US and 1 Italian). He plays mostly low tier anyway, and when I played it I forgot how much fun and how progress was so fast.
Finally, a new video 😅
I hope you guys are having a nice weekend 💪🏻
What first thing should I play from the next update? (I feel like it should go live next week)
Keep up the great content man love your videos
USSR su-25 and su-39, they're releasing so many versions of it and I want to see how op it is in 10.0
Play the BTR-80A. That would be awesome.
swedish CV90 the new one
I am stocked for it
Of course new french arty😂, also it whould be nice to see live on new account, like going to top as f2p
What would be nice to see is one of the senior Gaijin people start a new account and see how much they like it. Stream every game to keep it honest.
Still wouldn't matter. Only in it for the money🤷🏾♂️.
its like that on purpose ... if anything they think it should be even worse to force more people to pay, they even screwed the economy so much even people that did pay were squeezed more and more to spend cash on progression directly...
And playing France
Finally someone showed it: skill is the biggest influence in this game. And on money earnings KD ratio.
And someone can cry that the economy is fu...ed up: on planes in the days when invited friends were building me a Golden Eagles wallet, it took 8 hours of playing to make the 4th era. Hands up: who abhorred such friendship? XD!
I don't think anyone complained then that it wasn't fair, right?
@@Asghaad My friend, economics is not about sitting on a heap of money no matter how skilled you are. That's what communism is all about. Gaijin has to make money because it is the same company as an internet provider or an apple seller. If you don't like its economy, don't play it. There are 2,000 vehicles in the game today. Let Gaijin give you one for every day you play - no matter how skilled you are.
It will take you...5 years to get all the vehicles: ONLY FOR DAILY LOGIN TO THE GAME. Even with GJ's generosity, many people would not be willing to do so. Is that a reason to cry? Me: on a rank 2 plane (has a free talisman) I'm already inventing a 7th jet. It takes me about 2-3 weeks of playing, but a KD ratio of 2/1 is enough. In fact, I play a lot. Because that's the price of free play, you have to fill servers for people: who pay for new vehicles, talismans, premium account. If you don't like it, play DCS. You will have some two free planes, the rest at the GJ premium price.
"It helps if you aim." is hugely important tutorial advice. I wish more players were using it.
Tutorial should really teach how to range shots and how to use the ranging marks on the scope.
I usually just yeet it in the general direction of the enemy team.
I wish fewer players were using this advice
There's a little thing missing from this video that every new player did. A few hours of testing premium vehicles XDD
I didn't. I think there wasn't even a test drive option back then 🤔
@@DOLLARplays AFAIK test drives have existed since Open Beta 1.27
The WarThunder nightwalk is a staple of free players.
G.56 my beloved.
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 Dollarplays is clearly a man of unequaled focus, not tempted by driving around silly preimums like us mere mortals.
I never did this, personally.
Thank you for releasing this right now as I am enjoying my last days before military service in late night TH-cam sessions with fellow gamers :o
Good luck bro!
@@ILoveforGames Thank you thank you
Армию в какой ты стране то веть в нато неу обязательной службы
Where are you going for basic?
@@gocspecialist6342finland does.
He could also be in Switzerland
The inclusion of "you don't frighten us!" from Monty Python when bouncing off french armour made me smile. Truly, Dollar is a man of culture.
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Simply amazing
Agreed. Basically he has the right clips at the right time
Somebody should do a comparison of the old vs current WT economy. How it has changed over the years.
Old : 20mil sl per kill New : 100 sl per kill (joke)
I have a comparison to one premium aircraft - A7M1. Prior to last year's eco changes, I earned around 130,000 SL for 4 kills and won the battle. After the changes, I earned around 90,000 SL for 4 kills and a battle won. So in this case, the overall economy dropped by about 30%. But every vehicle have different SL multiplier. But each vehicle in the game had its multiplier changed differently so it's hard to quantify.
Good game with premium high tier tank liké old t55am1 was 20/25k exp per game and aroune 130k sl, now that was 10/12k exp and 70/80 sl
It would be an interesting experiment and go back thru long time WT CCs like Dollar's, PhlyDaily, etc. and collect that data from their videos.
@@superbuster11 I have the same experience across all my 9.0+ Premium Jets
That transition at 20:20 is top notch 👌🏻
and the music make it even better
Agreed 😂 even the music
I recently saw a guy on one video saying that "Content creators should start a new account and show Gaijin and other people how the grind is first hand"
And Dollar does exactly that, that's why you're the GOAT, humble to the end.
Of course though, he is an experienced player with all the map knowledge and muscle memory that comes with it. The true new player experience is a bit harsher. Heck, just try playing with just the default controls...
@@obsidianjane4413 yeah. It's the real flaw with the idea.
Yeah, good veteran war thunder player managed to unlock tier 1, buy tanks and crews in 4 hours. Was left with +30k SL. He most likely won most of his games and averaged between 5-10 kills in each game.
Now let's see stats when a complete new comer starts fresh. He has no idea of the maps, doesn't know weak spots and how to aim accurate. This kinda player will most likely win max 50% of his games (if lucky with teams) and probably averages around 0.5 - 1.0 KD. Let's see how far will he progress and how many SL will he have floating around after 4 hours...
@@JackTheNoober I can assure you, at 4 hours I was still trying to unlock maybe my 1st or 2nd tank that I didn't start with. I quit the game because I can't be bothered grinding it. But I do love watching WT videos still.
@@JackTheNooberhonestly I was thinking of starting to play WT, but not after seeing all the comments (yours was the cherry on top) I think I'll just... watch from now on.
Absolutely love this video seeing experienced CCs play in a non prem F2P account you dont always see that. Been playing WT for nearly 6 years. I only bought the Premium Account like 2 or 3 times (never the BP tho) to progress a bit faster for the Italian and Japanese Tech tree and this was like 2 years ago. Lately the rewards have been lacking, I find myself in some matches getting nearly 12 kills in 4.7-6.3 matches only to get something below around 60k SL and a measly RP which is a frustrating grind and time consuming. Really losing hope in this beautiful but head-ache inducing game
I think it doesn't make sense, a few years ago the game needed a lot of traffic on the servers because the waiting time for the AB game in airplanes was comparable to the game itself.
Today, even when entering a simulation game, you always have a few people on the server and zero seconds of waiting. The game has reached the level of monetization of years of effort and is doing just that.
Its premise has always been: for free players to stimulate the game for paying players. But it's probably ridiculous to think that there can't be differences in the progress of the two types of players.
Buying a talisman on even a low-rank plane is enough for half the tree as you quickly discover it. Someone who plays for free for several years: can't even afford such an expense?
And mind you, you make 12 kills and that's 4-12 people, whose day is absolutely ruined. Imagine how economy is working for them, eh?
@@Wujek_Dobra_Rada Some of us don't think you should spend 20 dollars to take off 52 hours of gameplay on tier 7 tanks just saying buddy. not that we can't afford it, we arent throwing money into this game just because they make the grind longer
What got me interested in WT was that the M60A2 dontcallitstarship was modelled in the game. So I made the rookie mistake of thinking I'd be able to play it soon after starting to play (insert evil maniacal snail laugh here).
I rage quit for like six months due to this realization and general asshattery of WT game play.
I then found my zen and realized that the game has no end. It is a perpetual grind. In fact the grind IS the game. Actually playing the vehicles is secondary to the "War Accountant" meta game.
There is no reason to buy premiums because you aren't in a hurry. Game play isn't fundamentally different between reserve and top-tier. Its all just driving and flying around the same maps ruining other people's games. So I now play casually and patiently at the pace I can put up with, which is usually just the assaults and enough games to use the freebie boosters it gives.
I agree.
The game is good.. textures, models, terrain deformation, FX, variety of modes, vehicles, simulation of damage when shells impact enemies, etc. but economy, fuuuh, keeps me far from this game, I eventually play sometimes but grind tech tree is painnnnnn. Also play WoWS wich is similar, but easy to level up (IMHO).
Thank you so much Dollar for doing this. So many content creators have no clue what actual players are having to go through on WT. Phly tried to do this but quickly abandoned it to go back to his press account.
I had a buddy who grinded Germany mostly f2p and it took him 5 years to get 9.0 in ground and 7.0 air in 2 lines.
i ground germany f2p for like 80% of the tree, the only premium time i got was a total of like 50 days and i played mainly russian and american during the premium time, got to 7.7 germany, took me 900 hours and 2 years to get here, im proud of the work ive done, i have like 2 premium german tanks and that is IT, and i bought them on sale and they arent even my top earning german tanks, the grind is tough, many nights of 5 AM gaming brought me here and im still lacking in the tree for air
@@Trashpanda115 brother im on 2 days of gameplay, terrible at tanks but good at planes(6-8 kills/battle) but not loving, problem is....... i liked the helicopters and my favorite are slower and calm sea battles, how do you think i should Proceed, currently the only nation im playing is Japan 😅
@@resolutogamer4859 as a person who has played almost no japan i have no idea, i just know that you should go for the zeros (A6M fighters in left of tree) for air battles and im not sure about naval
@@Trashpanda115 "i ground germany f2p" " i have like 2 premium german tanks " bruh
@@zxk my brother in christ can you fucking read? i said i ground like 80% of the tree f2p
Hi
I have grinded full japan tree ( plane and tanks) without any premium vehicle or account.
I was very painful and thx Dollar to represent a little bit of our pain 😊
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Same, but I only made it to their 3.7 wall and quit. Going from 3.3 to 4.7 in one medium tank is rough.
Are you ok?
(France spawns)
A newby would take a lot longer to research everything in T1 because of much lower exp each battle though^^
True
How much did you have KD after those 4 hours? I think most complete newbies struggle to get even to 1KD when new with the game. You managed to unlock stuff, buy it and was left with 30k+. I'd like to see results with average new player stats, how long would it take and how much SL they earn.
@@JackTheNooberI’m a new player I only started last weekend. I’m T3 USA naval, and T2 Italian army, T2 German army and that’s all. It’s clear to me even at these low tiers Germany is the best tank nation and it’s not even close
@@Ginamy72 actually Sweden is best currently. It has a better Leopard 2 variant than Germany for some reason :) Sweden gets pretty much both, their Leo 2(Strv122) variants and also Finnish normal Leo 2s.
I have yet to lose as a new F2P player with 5 hours. I just don’t get the issue. Play objective play to win and live.
No Money, No Premium Protection 💀
Years ago I managed to get 1 million SL after a year of grinding Germany with a premium account while unemployed. These days I am struggling to stay above 300K.
First three ranks are fun, after that the grind really starts. A good video to watch before bed. Would like to see more of the "Free to Play Experience."
Same like me when I was f2p gamer. Never more than 1m
I'll do more in the future
I think I had around 6M after playing German and Russian ground attackers for some time.
The days of a single 30mm APCR hit taking out a medium tank 😁
I got like 400k silver lions naturally over the years by staying at rank 4 or lower
As someone who has been free to play for about 850 hours the grind definitely begins to worsen at about rank 4 because that's around when repair costs begin to rise and rewards dont feel like they scale with research needed as much as they did but from what i can remember the grind up to rank 4 is somewhat bearable depending on the nation and player skill especially with the compressed BRs which mean tanks with stabilisers and sometimes laser range finders fight tanks without both but that's a whole different can of worms
You have the respect from a fellow f2p player
Hit first tiger but cant buy because of sl cost
oh yeah its real! esp the US Aviation line which suffers HORRIBLY from being underpowered unlike IRL and the ground is just a mess with things line the M18 being placed at 5.7 with a 76mm gun and the M36 being a 5.3 with a 90mm gun! #AmericaSuffers
@@barrenator9 yeah I got really lucky and have 6 million lions from a couple crates quite early on so I’ve been carried by that for a while
I mean, even this video shows just how bad the grind is, even a low tier.
A professional player (Pro in the sense of making money playing the game) with TONS of time in the game, getting a double ace of 11 kills, including an air kill in a tank, with a booster, in a reserve rank vehicle (Meaning all kills were on things of equal or higher BR), and still doesn't even earn enough to research a single rank 1 vehicle.
That was gameplay so far above the average game that it should've been worth like a vehicle and a half, considering how little the rank 1 vehicle are.
Average game for what I've seen on scoreboards are like 2-4 kills a game. I've seen lots get nothing, and several get 10+
I know it may not be something your particularly interested in doing.
But i would quite love to see you play this account *or another new one* in one faction tree, and see how long it'd take. free to play. to get ONE top tier vehicle. with all the knowledge, skill and patience you have. hell i'd enjoy just one video a week on the trip to top tier :)
that would take like 1 year...
I would love to do that, but that would be over a year long project, and especially since I don't have much free time to play
As someone on this very journey it takes a long time. That said i'm going through the JP air tree and with how little there is past 9.0 progress feels fast enough. finally got the T-2 on new years day which was top tier when i first launched the game and my goal ever since.
@@aerbongrats
I'm a US main and I started playing war thunder 3 years ago and I just about done researching rank IV vehicles.
The Grind is pain
im a fairly good player with premium and premium tanks and its still a terrible grind i dont know how people defend the grind
US aviation vet here with rank V just beginning! its a pain and i mean a PAIN! good luck fighting the Su-11 spam thats incoming to your location!
@@aurorathearcticwolf4243 yeah.......rank V is going to be the death of me. I'm already having problems with jets and guided missiles in rank IV And to top it off, the maps I get are just horrible. I have way better luck in Rank II
US main as well, with over 1k hrs on steam. I only JUST got US early jets, and that was only after I purchased the A10 on release. Still not even out of the Shermans yet on ground (highest is the early Super Pershing)
It’s not worth it.
In that same time you could have completed dozens of other games, even RPGs.
WarThunder is just the same battle modes on the same loop over and over. And then every other month, Gaijin does something asinine to piss off the players, who ultimately end up accepting it and continue playing anyway.
Saw the title knew it was gonna be really relatable
Yeah, wanted say the same, free to play player since 2013😂
Yeah but he gets 11 kills in a stock piece of crap. Haha i cant relate!
The "stabilizer" AKA the gunner's shoulder and hand, just like apx turrets on French tanks.
Me: Dollar, how many pop culture references do you put in your videos?
Dollar: Y E S
Tutorial used to reward GE. You'd end up with 500 total.
Now it's around 140
4:00 the stabiliser doesn't work at full speed, it only works if you're moving forwards on low speed.
To be more technical: it isn't an actual stabiliser but a shoulder stock for the gunner, the gunner is holding the trigger for the tank gun like a rifle while looking through the tank gunner sight, so this gives the gunner a small amount of "stabilization". Only early tanks have this, the panzer II, panzer 35/38 (t) amongst others.
And notice that him, a veteran that ends up first in every match with 5 to 10 kills, is making about 5k SL a match. Now imagine your average newbie that gets 1 - 3 kills per match at most... that's insane and we're just at rank 1.
Edit: As someone who's played this game for almost a decade, I can perfectly survive the current economy and don't have much SL shortages at all, but I want to defend new playes. The few times I've managed to get friends into War Thunder, they usually say it's a very good game and then starve to death within the first week and just quit because they feel hindered at every step.
Yeah, you have to learn how to game the game. You wind up playing "War Accountant" more than just playing for fun.
2:30 that's some next generation apcr! Lmfao do plays reaction to it was priceless
Thanks for bringing attention to the ke-ni, such an underated tank and one of my favorites at 6.3
Ke-Ni is M22 we have at home ;)
As a new player that picked up the game this year after watching your videos I played regularly everyday after work for at least 1-2 hours for at least a month I uninstalled the game wasn’t really fun due to the constant 1 shots and it feeling like no matter how well I did I still wasn’t progressing down the American tree at all
playing alone is painful try finding a squadron if you ever decide on returning to the game it honestly makes a world of difference
Did a right thing. Save your time and don't play this game or play something different. Playing diablo4 right now after deleting warthunder because needed some space. Feels good to dont waste time on Wt anymore.
With the 2nd rank plane, I reveal the 7th jet. It takes me 2-3 weeks. FW190 A1 with free talisman. Yes, I play more than 1-2 hours a day.
I'll repeat what I wrote above: Even if Gaijin gave you one vehicle per day: JUST ONLY FOR LOGGING INTO THE GAME, you'd get all the vehicles in the game in ... five years. Question: why would he give you something for free with the effort of watching a movie on Netflix? Don't you understand it's a company, not Santa Claus?
As you've seen in the video in this game, you can reach the 4th era in a few hours - enough to decide if it's worth paying for, and then pay for the creators' effort or go the harder, free way. If someone hasn't bought anything after playing the game for several years, they have no right to complain that it's difficult. Progress in similar games costs hundreds or thousands of euros, why should Gaijin be Mother Teresa?
i've have been grinding america and haven't played in weeks due to the same issue. at 5.7 i cannot afford the next tank so i cannot progress and console makes things much harder.
@@Wujek_Dobra_Rada bro do you even have a gag reflex? because thats alot of sucking up your doing
This made my weekend better. Thank you dollar, I really appreciate the hard work, I know it ain't easy to make videos. ❤
Thanks for watching 🤟
Each time I watch one of your videos of WT I think to myself Mmm, maybe I should play this game again. So I download it, begin to play it and then after about 30 minutes or so I remember exactly why I uninstalled it in the first place. For a new player in the game this game has a very steep learning curb, it also doesn't help that even tho you are new to the game you can play against players that have been playing for years and know the maps inside out. And the less we say about the economy the better.
Free to play/ =yes
do you need premium account?=if you want to progress into the T10's definitely but don't expect to make loads of money you will be lucky if you break even.
Great video as always DOLLAR, have a great weekend my friend
Can we talk about how perfect the transition was at 20:19 ? 😊
It's time again. Truly one of the WAR THUNDER FREE TO PLAY LIFE... Momentos of all time! And keep the the amazing videos and work, dollar!
I am mostly free to play, i don’t use premium and the only time I spent money was to boost research for Germany as I had progressed a bit on a diff account whilst my main was locked out to catch up after I had recovered the account so I know the pain of grinding for vehicles without premium but it is also kind of relaxing not having to worry about subscriptions, money and stuff. I have wanted warthunder to be more accessible for free2play players so I am participating in the boycott in hopes it will work. Thanks for the video.
10 Kill victory in the IPM1 where i was very active = 20K SL.
One tank at that BR is 8k repair cost.
Free to play you need ~4+ kills per spawn JUST TO BE NET ZERO.
You have to realize just how insane that is. You need a Kill / Death ratio of 4 just to be NET ZERO. We're not talking about profit here, just ZERO.
I noticed that with my mosquito. Took out a tiger and some panther looking thing, plus a big attacker looking plane (no idea what), just broke even. Like, what?! Thsoe three vehicles could have done a lot of damage to my team, surely i should get some better pay for that!
in Brazil, 25% of your salary is used to buy a package...😢
20:20 dollar dropped cleanest transition and thought we wouldn't notice
After more than 900 hours I finally used premium to go a bit faster on tank trees that I didn't play. It was night and day. The amount of point you get for doing nothing is crazy. With a friend we compared when one of us only gets one kill and a cap with premium and the other has 5 kills and a cap and no premium. The guy with no premium even with more kills got around 200/300 less research points. Let's not even talk about money, you get double the amount of money with premium.
I love this stuff, Dollar! Your editting is awesome, and youre not afraud to show us that you get slapped too. I appreciate that.
Thabk you!
Make this a series and get to top tier
Perhaps in ten years.
Yeah he'd have content for 10 years worth of in game time
@@Ghent_Halcyon That's what the snail calls not long to unlock time. :D
20:20 the transition brother, caught me off guard. Nicely done my friend
8:53 with that kind of performance and barely getting 2k research with a small booster.. for a 1.0 br match.. when you get to the point where you don't only have to grind 400-500k worth of research but also need millions to buy the unlocked vehicles.. felt different from long ago where you can unlock new vehicles after a match with that performance.. now it's a struggle to even get to tier 3 if you play casually
But War Thunder doesn't have a paywall, right? lol.
Im a Free to Play German Main and i started around mid 2020 to play. Ive got luck bc i got 1mil of Sl which help me go through tier 4 but Tier 5 was the the Tier where everything slowed down like you said. If you have to play 3 years and even more to get to top tier then you know smth wrong. Good Video Dollar keep it up my man.
Hey Dollar ! I suggest when the update hits you do some 3.7 sweden, because their lineup is getting ultra strong ! Like Pz IV, T-34, Sherman, S.A.V, personnally I'm quite hyped for that lol
That's a very strong lineup. Only kv1e is missing, but it's probably 4.0?
@@DOLLARplays They would likely be able to get some KV1B variant (premium one on german tree is finnish), but yeah, would be 4.0 likely
Having a rough day and A new Dollar video immediately cheers me up. Phly brought me to War Thunder, nut Dollar keeps me coming back. Your content is second to none!
I love Japanese tanks even if they have a random damage
You'd like the british line, we have solid shot which will either send a tiger to the shadow rhelm or be eaten by the commander for breakfast and he'll turn a bit orange. There is no middle ground here! :P
@@Llamazone-Prime oh my lord, im at 7.0 rn in the british tree and what you said is so damn true, yesterday i shot a tiger II in the turret, it got sent into space, then his buddy came rushing in another tiger II and I fired at the same exact spot, and all I got was "Hit" and A GODDAMN ORANGE AMMO RACK
@@chickendrumstick1569 Its so painful sometimes. Last night i unlocked the Charioteer and oh my, its nice being able to pen things compared to the Churchill 7, but the damage is rubbish! Surely an 84mm round would at least stun the person it just hit!? :P
@@Llamazone-Prime its the same with the baby Sabot rounds, surely a 4kg dart to the face would knock someone out? But nooo, if fired from a british tank, its like a foam toy ball hitting the crew, is Gaijin taking the piss??
For the curious, playing the Japanese seagoing fleet tree to the Kongo will take you less than a year and a half without premium. True, it took me two years, but it was because when I started it wasn't yet the scale of the ocean and the coastal so the last ship I had ended up in the coastal [sorry my engleso bad]
Wassup dollar! I have a recommendation! You should play the weisle 1a2. It's super duper fun. Definitely check it out. Also makes for great content. Keep up the great vids man ❤
That's on my list of tanks to play 😉
3am for me as I'm enjoying a late night weekend of gaming. Prepping for bed right now with a Dollar vid and cereal. Good way to finish my night. Cheers man
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why did you kill me
The outro was the best part. Loved the synthwave retro music with the cool background
It's been one year.
Yet 20:20 is still the smoothest transition I ever witnessed in my average youtuber viewer life.
Finnaly someone understands our pain
Somehow Palpatine returned
As always 😂
18:56 Lol for a second I thought you vaporized that plane with the Ho-ro
Would love to see this with sweden. Some lowtier "can get through anything with all mighty APDS" 😂👍🏻
I felt like Sweden is to easy😅
@@DOLLARplays Noooo. I think that's a lie.... 😂
I have started playing war thunder like 3 days ago and I got to say it's kinda tough seeing my tank firing bb bullets while getting sent into oblivion by just 1 bullet.
Ahhh, this takes me back to my first days of playing WT and starting out as a Japanese main. Good times 🥲
Everbody was waitin for that but no one wanted to ask! GJ DOLLAR more videos from this new account!
I love the accent you have, with your reactions it makes me laugh like crazy.
Thx for you'r video :)
the thing is tier 1 and most tier 2 is easy to grind as the rp/money ratio for a new vehicle is fairly good.
the problem is it doesnt scale up the further you go into the tree. which makes it so damn tedious and hard
And its entirely intentional. Gaijin baits you in with making low tier easy(er) and fun(er), and then cranks up the costs in Tier III hoping the sunk-cost fallacy will make you just break down and pay.
7:16 this whole bit with the other guy is amazing
Finally a content creator who is doing a free to play account so he/we can see how the economy really is..
20:20 That transition was the best one in your entire career
I recently just got a PC upgrade and now slowly playing war thunder, glad to see this video DOLLARplays :)
I love how you stopped the music when you couldn't pass the wall effin hilarious
I’m a new player when compared to most players. I have been playing for about 31 hours and have only been able to get one tier 2 tank on germany and I’m currently grinding the italian air tree. This game is hell to grind in ground forces. I wish it would be a little easier to grind ground tree. To put i. some context this was before the economy reforms. Just shows how much has changed. I’m a very happy man.
5:37 not sure if anyone else noticed that
Noticed what?
It's been so long that I forgot, it's most likely the spelling error in the subtitles@@WarrenMoney
Casually breaking TOS
That m3 yelling freedom going fast af was perfect 🤣
The best in this video is that Dollar started not with ussr tree. Dollar not looking for the easiest way but fun. Love you videos
love the Lt. Horatio approval at 2:56 hahahhaa
coincide with one of channel in my cable tv subscription that shows csi: miami
(yes, even though that shows was from 6-7 years ago 😢)
That transition at 20:20 was absolute FIRE!! 🔥🔥🔥
Quality gameplay, my guy. You make me wanna play tanks. Subbed!
The hard part is to go from 5.7 to 6.7 jump and from 6.7 to 7.3 as a free to play player! I have 361 hours and I was struggling so much to get past the leopard 1 and m48. Fortunately, I stopped playing long ago because it was getting frustrating hahaha... especially air RB... 5-10 minutes to fly to the battlefield only to get smoked by a level 100 player...
Finally a video answering the all important question: What if god was one of us? Just a broke ass low-tier scrub like one of us?
But seriously this is probably my favorite tiers of play after 7-8 years on the grind. Just around the new year I FINALLY broke into 7.0 for the first time with Germany and my next highest loadouts are all still just reaching 5.0/5/3 and I almost always end up only doing one or two rounds before I am fed up and go back to rank 2.
2.3-3.3 in my experience will always be the sweet spot for f2p grinding. The cost of entry for new vehicles is still low enough that you can make your money back before the next vehicle is unlocked and unlocks are still cheap enough that your match winnings usually cover any new unlocks on components you still have. The one time I bought premium vehicles about 4-5 months ago to use mainly for grinding I got the b1-ter and the French premium p-40 and throwing them both on a tier 2 french loadout and its been the best grinding I have ever had. Worth the relatively small cost to get the two premiums for better results. Before that Germany and Italy tier 2 were probably the best for grinding without a premium vehicle.
Ke-Ni was so cool 🔥🔥
That was great, starting from square one, should be a series, good thinking man!
I agree with you, the Ke Ni is great. The Ta-Se is also fun!
where the challenge starts is tier 4+, its rewarding at start to get you hooked then when the money and xp starts to halt you are more inclined to spend
I wanna see more of this type of content, it's very enjoyable to watch😁
I came across these videos a year or so ago and thought, WT looks fun I’ll give it a try, but won’t spend on any of the pay to win stuff. Quit after about a month or two, got to mid-4 BR if I remember correctly, it really is max depression haha this video really speaks to my experience
18:31 hull crew were like the enemies from super hot for a second.
Remember guys, dollar has a lot more experience than a regular new player, knowing maps, weak points, and being able to estimate ranges. Even his current gameplay is considered above average for new players.
Love the starting over ftp series❤
Those memes through out the whole video made me laugh many times, good sht 😂.
20:19 beautiful transition dollar
I still remember playing with you in one of the older From Low Tier to Top Tier videos :D i didnt notice you were there until the video released but it was still fun ^_^
By far the best WT YTber, keep rocking mate!
In my experience you can unlock without premium or premium vehicles until rank III anything beyond that really becomes a struggle. Forget unlocking last tiers without premium time AND talismans or premium vehicles. So choose what you want to grind, use your boosters when you need them and exploit the high ones (300% up) on simulator modes to "hyperspeed" the grind
A FTP player should never play without a booster active. Even when you have a good game, the rewards are often not worth the time spent, much less the repair costs.
That "Contact 12 o clock" with the gun fire just hit differently
A better game would have that in the crew voices. Instead of goofy floating chevrons.
As a f2p who has been "playing" (with absolutely 0 consistency to the point where a week of grinding China almost got me to the same BR as my "main") since March/May 2013, welcome to the grind hell.
I started in 2021. Pure hell. I havent spent a dime on the game. I almost got to rank 5, then the game became too frustrating for me and I quit about 2 months ago. It was not the gameplay itself that was frustrating, it was the fact that each time I died i would lose a big amount of my SL on repair, constantly being in the fear of going broke. Every vehicle purchase was a nightmare, buying a new tank always carried the risk of bankrupcy.
Welcome to my hell as a new player...low br,where I will never get any kills FOREVER
APCR from Panther II has more pen than modern MBTS deleted uranium rounds 😢😂
Make them pay for what they took from us
something about low tier gameplay that makes life more relaxing.. It's combat in it's raw form. you vs me with only a few chunks of metal in between. no helos, no drones.. no missiles.. Rank 1 and 2 are designed for you to go through fast and feel accompliment so you will invest in it more. Rank 3+ is where they screw you. Coincidentally that is also where all teh event objectives are located.
I am so incredibly lucky to live in a time where i can just stumble across this butiful soul while sitting on the couch scratching my bawls.... we truly live in the best time. LMAO it's love at first watch GOD DAM you're hilarious ahhahaha
Idk why I torture myself by watching war thunder videos when I know damn well my PC will explode if I try to play it
I have been playing this game for almost 5 years without premium account and still stuck at 8.7, still level 83 in my account it's painful but and a fun experience. I am now planning to delete the game because of recent drama I hope new players find this game entertaining and stay at low br.
My 11 yr. old son started a new account to take advantage of the "weeb special" to get 4 low tier premiums (3 US and 1 Italian). He plays mostly low tier anyway, and when I played it I forgot how much fun and how progress was so fast.
Not gonna lie but when i started to play war thunder it did not take me 4 hours to unlock rank 1, like around 1 hour? The game really changed a lot
That tank on the bridge just looked at you like "really?"