Both the Medium and 1.1 Stub nibs I have for the P136 were excellent straight out of the box - the same can't be said of my 630, which was dry, scratchy and inconsistent in flow. A real shame, as I like the rest of the pen. With some work I've got it much better - although my attempts at heat setting the feed have left the fins a bit bent and funny looking. I've ordered a couple of replacement steel nibs for the 630, not sure if they're just bare nibs or the whole screw-in nib unit - we'll see when they arrive. So yes, I found the P136 to be excellent & a joy to write with - but I persist with my 'problem child' 630 precisely because it's a challenge...
Heat setting with plastic feeds can be like that...I have spare Jinhao #6 feeds from an experiment with an x750. Hope you get it working as you'd like it to.
I enjoyed this comparison. I'm hoping to get a P136 shortly, as I think it meets my needs better. I bought a Jinhao X159, and that satisfies my rare urges for OS pens.
I have both the Wing Sung 630 and two Majohn p136's which will post after torquing the bejeesus out of it the first time. I would love to see the 630 with a fine nib, other than that, it is a better pen in my hand. That said, the winner in a competition has to be the Jinhao 9019. That enormous cartridge is a winner.
I have both plus the Wing Sung 629. Honestly i like the 630 a bit better. I loke the width and the larger size and nib which is not as stiff. I think it is a better writer. It also holds more ink. Thanks for the comparison, James.
Have you compared that Wing Sung 630 to the Jinhao X159? I think those two are suitable for a "face to face" comparison. Very good video and an excellent advise on both of them.
Thanks! I've heard some really like the gold nib. Now that I've used the steel and been so pleased with it, I can see giving the other one a chance. It's a terrific pen.
It is the smallest of details, but the clip of the Majohn really sets it apart. The underside almost seems to have a large bead nicely welded to it rather than folding over the end of the clip. Both are great pens.
I bought 3 P136. 2 of them cracked right below the bottom finial that you twist to fill the pen. I barely filled them 4 times. I don't know if it was a bad batch or if most of them crack. I have one of the 3 that hasn't cracked yet. They have 1.1 stub nibs that are possibly the smoothest nibs ever or way up there with the best of them.
i HATE to be the barer or bad news but the majohn p136 does not take a jowo sized nib however it does take a montblanc nib and you can buy a nib housing that can take a jowo #6 size nib unit :)
I found a few nib units from EF to 1.1 stub for this pen, but they are specific to it, made by Majohn. This is nice because I like stubs, but I can't get that stub to fit into a Majohn C4, even if I disassemble the unit.
No choosing … I bought both, as they are relatively inexpensive. Swapped the nib in the P136 for a which I prefer. Both pens are superb smooth writers with good ink flow. I rarely post my pens and never post piston filler pens due to the possibility of disturbing the piston knob resulting in an unwelcome ‘burp’. I would ask you and all other reviewers to emphasise the ‘reverse threading’ on piston knobs and some nibs. A colleague of mine recently ruined a PENBBS pen by turning the filler knob anti-clockwise in the mistaken belief that he was undoing it … cracked barrel! Enjoyable video as always James, thanks. ✒️👍🖌
Hands down the w.s. 630. This is a next level pen. The p136 is a fine pen, but it is not in the same league. Im waiting to see if anything new cimes up to challenge the 630 - i thought the hongdian moiré pens with their #8 nibs and ebonite feed might be comparable but unfortunately they just showed what a truly superb pen the 630 is.
Thanks for this video, great comparison, I hadn't understood the size difference between the two, but now I think I prefer the size of the Montblanc LeGrand (146). I do have a green P136, and I can confirm that this color looks very good, sober and elegant, and matches perfectly with Jacques Herbin - Emerald of Chivor ink. Mine is fitted with an F nib and it's perfectly soft, which I don't always find on their other pens or nibs sold separately. I suspect that the feeder (specific to this model) greatly improves things, or else it's that they adjust the nib specifically for this pen. As for the cap, the fact that it doesn't post isn't a problem, firstly because I have medium-sized hands, but mainly because this would unbalance the pen. Otherwise, my latest acquisition is PenBBS 355 Fire Cloud with an F Blade nib (inked with Noodler's Walnut). It costs 3x the price of the P136, but it's a fantastic pen, the nib is great, soft and full of character, but above all, it's one of the few pens to have a Bulk-Filler piston, which means you can have a very large capacity and lock the feed in case of air travel or whatever. I could just criticize the big trim ring, which I don't find very elegant, but the rest of the pen is perfect. PS: to pronounce MontBlanc correctly, you shouldn't say the letters T and C. :)
I didn't like the F nib on the P136, but I'm much happier with the Majohn M nib. One warning for nib-swappers - the feed on the P136 is not very robust. I've got the 630 ordered; I suspect that I'll like the size better.
The newer ones DO post, but I’m not sure of how new and how many of the old ones are still for sale. I bought 2 fresh m Amazon in the last month. One (green) posts perfectly and one (gray) doesn’t post.
The Majohn P136 does post! I have 3 and all of them post securely. The thing is that the first few times you post the cup you'll have to push it a bit harder and give it a twist while doing so. In no time your pen will post securely without much effort.
I think Majohn either tweaked their design or there's some variation between production runs. When the P136 first came out, everything I saw said it didn't post. A second wave of reviews suggested *some* of them did. Mine does not. It just doesn't post. I'm done. Great pen, great review!
Well...there is one swap for the WS 630. Shak-MD swapped the steel nib for a vintage Montblanc gold nib. I just don't know where you would get one at a decent price.
On balance, I like the Wing Sung 630 better, but that's on yours and other reviews not on any actual ownership evidence. I think there are some similarities, but the overall dimensions of the Wing Sung 630 and that nib tip the scale for me. As you note, pick either one, you wouldn't lose out. I have a Jinhao X850 (sure it's cartridge converter) that I would liken to the Majohn P136 in overall dimensions and an X159 I'd liken to the Wing Sung 630. I do like both, but I'd easily go for the piston filler Wing Sung 630.
From which store did you bought it, please? And which color? My burgundy and formed dark blue are not posting. The major cons of this P136 pen. Otherwise it's a great build and writer.
Do I need another fountain pen? No. What I need is more words to write. First, figure out how to write like Hemingway, Dickens, Twain, or anybody that people read. Then buy more pens. That's exactly what I'm going to do, starting day after tomorrow. I'd start tomorrow, but that's when my P136 should get here.
@@JG3Reviews My P136 got here and it's a very pleasant-writing pen. It's got an EF nib and I think I might prefer a fine, but not so much that I'm tempted to swap nibs. Thanks for the review!
I received a 630 I purchased, a few days ago, and it posts perfectly, and my new 9019 also posts perfectly.
... and now, I want both.
Both the Medium and 1.1 Stub nibs I have for the P136 were excellent straight out of the box - the same can't be said of my 630, which was dry, scratchy and inconsistent in flow. A real shame, as I like the rest of the pen. With some work I've got it much better - although my attempts at heat setting the feed have left the fins a bit bent and funny looking. I've ordered a couple of replacement steel nibs for the 630, not sure if they're just bare nibs or the whole screw-in nib unit - we'll see when they arrive. So yes, I found the P136 to be excellent & a joy to write with - but I persist with my 'problem child' 630 precisely because it's a challenge...
Heat setting with plastic feeds can be like that...I have spare Jinhao #6 feeds from an experiment with an x750. Hope you get it working as you'd like it to.
I enjoyed this comparison. I'm hoping to get a P136 shortly, as I think it meets my needs better. I bought a Jinhao X159, and that satisfies my rare urges for OS pens.
I have both the Wing Sung 630 and two Majohn p136's which will post after torquing the bejeesus out of it the first time. I would love to see the 630 with a fine nib, other than that, it is a better pen in my hand. That said, the winner in a competition has to be the Jinhao 9019. That enormous cartridge is a winner.
I have two P136 and find them impossible to post, which annoys me.
I have both plus the Wing Sung 629. Honestly i like the 630 a bit better. I loke the width and the larger size and nib which is not as stiff. I think it is a better writer. It also holds more ink.
Thanks for the comparison, James.
Have you compared that Wing Sung 630 to the Jinhao X159? I think those two are suitable for a "face to face" comparison. Very good video and an excellent advise on both of them.
Thanks! Maybe I should have had a fuller shoot-out of large pens.
Great vid again James! Been looking at the 630 with a gold nib for just a cool lesser known pen with a nice nib.
Thanks! I've heard some really like the gold nib. Now that I've used the steel and been so pleased with it, I can see giving the other one a chance. It's a terrific pen.
It is the smallest of details, but the clip of the Majohn really sets it apart. The underside almost seems to have a large bead nicely welded to it rather than folding over the end of the clip. Both are great pens.
I bought 3 P136. 2 of them cracked right below the bottom finial that you twist to fill the pen. I barely filled them 4 times. I don't know if it was a bad batch or if most of them crack. I have one of the 3 that hasn't cracked yet. They have 1.1 stub nibs that are possibly the smoothest nibs ever or way up there with the best of them.
I believe you are referring to my comment :) .. Thank you for doing this.
Glad to!
Great review, James. Already have a Jinhao X159 and don't use it much. Now I want a Majohn 136. Going shopping. Thanks.
i HATE to be the barer or bad news but the majohn p136 does not take a jowo sized nib however it does take a montblanc nib and you can buy a nib housing that can take a jowo #6 size nib unit :)
And a Bock housing, too, right?
I found a few nib units from EF to 1.1 stub for this pen, but they are specific to it, made by Majohn. This is nice because I like stubs, but I can't get that stub to fit into a Majohn C4, even if I disassemble the unit.
@@cseggerman thats because I believe the nib that fits this pen is bock and the one that fits the c4 is jowo they do not fit each other !!
@@JG3Reviews right but you can purchase separately a bock and jowo nib housing unit :)
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No choosing … I bought both, as they are relatively inexpensive. Swapped the nib in the P136 for a which I prefer. Both pens are superb smooth writers with good ink flow. I rarely post my pens and never post piston filler pens due to the possibility of disturbing the piston knob resulting in an unwelcome ‘burp’. I would ask you and all other reviewers to emphasise the ‘reverse threading’ on piston knobs and some nibs. A colleague of mine recently ruined a PENBBS pen by turning the filler knob anti-clockwise in the mistaken belief that he was undoing it … cracked barrel! Enjoyable video as always James, thanks. ✒️👍🖌
Thanks for the review.
My hands have stiffened with age and I am looking for a very large pen. I am not in the MB 149 class, but that size of pen is what I need now.
Jinhao 9019
@@FPC588 Yes, I have just obtained one. It is about half mm too broad. I have just ordered a 630 to try that for size.
@@synicyst9925Howd it go?
Hands down the w.s. 630. This is a next level pen. The p136 is a fine pen, but it is not in the same league. Im waiting to see if anything new cimes up to challenge the 630 - i thought the hongdian moiré pens with their #8 nibs and ebonite feed might be comparable but unfortunately they just showed what a truly superb pen the 630 is.
I brought a P136 with a Bock number 6 fine nib. It’s working well. Recommend you guys to use a bock nib for it.
Isn't the nib in it a bock already? Does anyone know?
@@nohandle-01 No. The dealer modified it for me. Of course I had to pay more for it
Thanks for this video, great comparison, I hadn't understood the size difference between the two, but now I think I prefer the size of the Montblanc LeGrand (146).
I do have a green P136, and I can confirm that this color looks very good, sober and elegant, and matches perfectly with Jacques Herbin - Emerald of Chivor ink.
Mine is fitted with an F nib and it's perfectly soft, which I don't always find on their other pens or nibs sold separately.
I suspect that the feeder (specific to this model) greatly improves things, or else it's that they adjust the nib specifically for this pen.
As for the cap, the fact that it doesn't post isn't a problem, firstly because I have medium-sized hands, but mainly because this would unbalance the pen.
Otherwise, my latest acquisition is PenBBS 355 Fire Cloud with an F Blade nib (inked with Noodler's Walnut). It costs 3x the price of the P136, but it's a fantastic pen, the nib is great, soft and full of character, but above all, it's one of the few pens to have a Bulk-Filler piston, which means you can have a very large capacity and lock the feed in case of air travel or whatever.
I could just criticize the big trim ring, which I don't find very elegant, but the rest of the pen is perfect.
PS: to pronounce MontBlanc correctly, you shouldn't say the letters T and C. :)
I'll say Montblanc correctly when everyone else stops saying "Kaweeeco". 😆
@@JG3Reviews kavèco, but then, it's a little easier for me, I'm French, they're my neighbors (however, I don't speak English very well)
My 630 posts well, purchased about a month ago.
I didn't like the F nib on the P136, but I'm much happier with the Majohn M nib. One warning for nib-swappers - the feed on the P136 is not very robust. I've got the 630 ordered; I suspect that I'll like the size better.
The newer ones DO post, but I’m not sure of how new and how many of the old ones are still for sale. I bought 2 fresh m Amazon in the last month. One (green) posts perfectly and one (gray) doesn’t post.
Thanks for confirming that. If mine posted I'd use it even more often.
Think about doing a comparison with a Mont Blanc. Is the Mont Blanc worth the difference in price, based on how it writes?
The Majohn P136 does post! I have 3 and all of them post securely. The thing is that the first few times you post the cup you'll have to push it a bit harder and give it a twist while doing so. In no time your pen will post securely without much effort.
I think Majohn either tweaked their design or there's some variation between production runs. When the P136 first came out, everything I saw said it didn't post. A second wave of reviews suggested *some* of them did. Mine does not. It just doesn't post. I'm done. Great pen, great review!
I'm pretty sure mine would break first. But hopefully it's just a batch issue that is or will be fixed.
Mine posts well too. Got mine about three months ago off Etsy.
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Well...there is one swap for the WS 630. Shak-MD swapped the steel nib for a vintage Montblanc gold nib. I just don't know where you would get one at a decent price.
the p136 is prone to breaking due to the thin wall of the barrel around the bronze part, I had 2 both of them broke within a week
Nice to see Majohn repurpose the Ti500 piston unit.
On balance, I like the Wing Sung 630 better, but that's on yours and other reviews not on any actual ownership evidence. I think there are some similarities, but the overall dimensions of the Wing Sung 630 and that nib tip the scale for me. As you note, pick either one, you wouldn't lose out. I have a Jinhao X850 (sure it's cartridge converter) that I would liken to the Majohn P136 in overall dimensions and an X159 I'd liken to the Wing Sung 630. I do like both, but I'd easily go for the piston filler Wing Sung 630.
When you said you were done, you were not done. The slinging lifestyle comment made me laugh.
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Ford Pinto, wow. That's the one with the gas tank in the back and had the potential to blow up if rear-ended.
You didn't mention if the P136 posts or not. 😁
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My p136 Post securely, but i need to use a bit of force to snap it there.
From which store did you bought it, please? And which color? My burgundy and formed dark blue are not posting. The major cons of this P136 pen. Otherwise it's a great build and writer.
I'm glad some do. Hopefully they'll get that dialed in for all newer batches.
I like p136 more than my 630
Wing Sung 629 seems to hit the sweet spot for me. For some reason, it doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
I haven't given that one a shot, yet. I'll have to add it to the list.
Do I need another fountain pen? No. What I need is more words to write. First, figure out how to write like Hemingway, Dickens, Twain, or anybody that people read. Then buy more pens.
That's exactly what I'm going to do, starting day after tomorrow. I'd start tomorrow, but that's when my P136 should get here.
Forgot my manners (again). Nice video!
Thanks!
@@JG3Reviews My P136 got here and it's a very pleasant-writing pen. It's got an EF nib and I think I might prefer a fine, but not so much that I'm tempted to swap nibs. Thanks for the review!
words are not important for writing as pen does not either, try pensil it will solve case but you need ful moon and west north wind
There is no such thing as too many pens...
Eric estrada!!
Ps. Yogi is right, lol.