Note: if all companies would actually label what their cables can do on the cable itself that would go a long way. The standardized labels exist, they're just not being used.
@@strangelyukrainian7314 when school is a business, not a place to educate and at siege by rampant gun crime, maybe, but in countries where the focus is on doing well, learning and you are allowed to prepare for a presentation maybe. My point is, if you haven't realised by watching this channel, the world doesn't spin around America or its practices. The world is more diverse and interesting than the neighbourhood on your doorstep. Everyone thinks differently and behaves differently.
@@dennis8196 yes and even with that deep commentary on society, it is a still an annoyance that is easily solved by better cable labelling like ethernet. No need to go into global philosophy lol
@@PhatPazzo It's still USB, I have no idea what you mean. It just doesn't work with variable output chargers, so any variable charger will always output at its lowest voltage.
@@SourCyanide The video misses the point of USB-C. It's not on cable to rule them all, its one connector. The protocol is what varies. If you want a cable to carry the 100W (actually much more now), video, i2C, sound, HID, and the dozens of other protocols, you might find that cable is thick, short, and heavy - because the PD spec cable is going to be a thick cable, and if you need it to carry the extra for speed, it's several pairs of twisted wire as well as the power cable, so you have just doubled the thickness and weight of the cable, then you will be complaining your device broke from using an impractical cable for minor tasks. No matter how you communicate the right way to do something, people will miss understand then spread incorrect information.
@@badoem5353 the protocol checks if the cable is able to reliably transfer data at whatever speen both parties (host and slave) can do. That is it checks the cable for all wires or some, if the connection is RF noisy and if there is an interface chip in it. Depending upon what it finds, the speed maybe fast or slow, or may drop mid file transfer. Same for all cables and protocols.
@@3nd04 ah yes, the poor companies had to do it. If only they hadn't been forced to take such a drastic change. After all, without it they definetily would have made standardized cables that could work on every device. There's no way they would continue to have exclusive cables. And even if they did it's totally better to have cables that don't fit and have different specs than it is to have cables that fit and have different specs. Right?
Cool for you, but you missed the point. Different applications call for different cables, IE: data transfer cables vs charging cables. They are a thing, and yes, as frustrating as it is to learn the difference, it's necessary to know the difference.
@@brandonmoon5388 the thing is, for charging you now only have one cable. Great if you ask me - a person who does not use their laptop for big screen presentations or has large files needing to be moved physically from one device to another on a regular basis.
@@megustAslagt Yeah, well, not always the case! I had to make sure that I got a cable that was capable of power delivery to get a device to charge - so not always true.
Yeah he acts like they aren't backwards compatible. Just buy a cable that's capable of fast charging and high speed data transfer then use it for everything else.
Fun fact: yes most usb c laptop charger are smart enough to recognize what device they plugged to and how much power they should give. You just gotta use the orignal laptop charger or a good charger that you can trust on and not some cheap Chinese crap
Really not that big of a difference though, 8x ain't much when we're in the billions. That's 125 times less than the difference between a megabit and gigabit, and people confuse those more often
Electronics engineer here, the trouble is usb C while awesome is a really really complicated standard. Many of the items in the spec are optional and it’s really expensive to add all the stuff to make a 40 gbps cable AND have it do 100W of power. So companies cut corners and implement only what their product needs from the spec thus breaking the perfect compatibility :/
I really don't see how that's a big issue. He named like 3 different classes of cables. If you can't keep track of 3 cables you own I don't think the cable is the problem there. And for the vast majority of people, the primary purpose is simply charging, and that can be done with 1 cable, just get a cable that can power your device that requires the most power and it works for all.
@@hadhamalnamthe cable for my 3D printer, laptop, phone, steamdeck, display, car, PC, etc... all look exactly the same but are not at all interchangeable. Previously we had cables for each of these just like we do now but they all were very identifiable.
Also just labeling them would be nice too. I mean, if I buy a 10$ cable from a store, I don't expect it to do much more than charge my phone but I've never seen packaging stating those other capabilities. I also haven't had a need to look so...lol
And as always, the political nitwits of the European Commission didn’t understand this and made USB C mandatory. The Apple lightning connector is superior to USB C. Try to remove the dirt from the connector on both standards and you know why…
@@bsblleon01 I think the point was, if I have 10 USB-C cables in my house, but they all work completely differently, how can I never know what does what? None of the ones I have, keep their respective speeds and details on hand.
@@FriendxABecause they are stupid? I agree. Engineers aren’t your enemy, they are your friend. Riddle me this, if everything looks the same then how do you know where anything goes?
Might charge slower or not give you full res, but that's still better than not being able to use it at all. The new labelling with speed and power ratings should help a lot.
@@Dimitris_Half Yes. I remember when phones all had custom cables and you'd be at a friend's house and not be able to charge it, because they didn't have a cable compatible with your phone. Charging slowly is a hell of a lot better than that. "Better than nothing" is *absolutely* valuable in a lot of situations.
The non-data-transfer cables are actually very useful. Some public chargers can actually be hacked so that you're at risk of transferring some bad shit to your phone. IMO manufacturers should include a non-data cable for the charger, and optionally a separate data cable, maybe in another color.
The risk of public chargers is minimal. For one, the odds of connecting to a malicious charger is very low. For another, it has to take advantage of a flaw in your specific phone. USB-related flaws (and even OTG command sequences) are usually extremely specific to individual OSes, if not individual models. If it's not taking advantage of a flaw to bypass security, you get a prompt asking if you want to trust the computer, a huge red flag for what should be just power. Finally, a malicious public charger that attacks connected devices has to have a mechanism to store and/or transmit collected data. The ways of transmitting this are limited and leave evidence, and the presence of the malicious device makes for additional evidence of the crime. There's a reason that no such devices have been found in the wild. In over a dozen years since the first reports of such attack capabilities from researchers, not one verified malicious station has been identified. If you're that worried, get a USB condom that allows power but not data. You don't need an entirely separate cable.
@@JarrodFrates Yeah, that is in fact true. Most if not all modern OSes are extremely secure and by default Android will just not allow any data going in or out unless you specifically tell it to, but it's better to be safe than sorry as they say. I'm not entirely sure if those attacks are all that common and I assume they aren't but as a security standard I wouldn't be mad seeing something like this. And yeah "USB condoms" are great for this already.
And this is exactly the reason it's so frustrating. Yes, I do realize the actual usage of this exists, but it still doesn't change the fact that usb-c isn't what it was marketed to be. A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. It doesn't matter if it isn't a one size fits all solution, just don't goddamn market it as one!
@@Tues48 Exactly. And add to that entropy the device too: back in the day if you saw a DVI port it was obvious that it was a video out, with USB-C who knows? Especially smartphones not all have video out trough usb.
@@karellen00 So is it a DVI-D, DVI-A or a cable which can do both? And what does the device support? Pretty much every data cable standard has this problem.
@@NorthcodeNoCh It was possible to distinguish the pins, or at least you knew it was a video port. With usb it can be video, data (with huge variability from the old usb 2.0 to 20 Gbps), or even charge only with various power ratings.
@@Tues48 Yes a lot of them actually do have it written either on the cable or there's a small tape going around the cable that says what it does. Bought my cable a couple of years ago and I know it can transfer max 480 mbit/s and for charging it's 3A.
I actually love that some cables only charge and not transfer data. I specifically use such cables when I'm traveling and plug it into public USB chargers, like in busses and airplanes for example.
Couldn't find anyone else mentioning this, so i will. The transfer speeds you showed are in Giga**bits** (Gb) not Giga**bytes** (GB). The difference is a difference of 8 times, 1 byte is 8 bits.
@fstemarie difference is even more extrem than gibibits/bytes. 8 Gibibytes = 8.5 gigagbytes. 8 Gigabits is one Gigabyte. He messed up bit/Byte, not Gibi/Giga. Point stand usb/data standards are gone wild 😂
Fundamentally, yes. But the reason gigabit is used is because it's the measurement of the speed of transfer, while gigabyte is the measurement of storage. Two completely different applications
@VoidField101x if you got such a laptop bring the cable with you, like you always had to. Also with the Advent of quick sharing phones it shouldn't be such a big problem. My cable can do 40W for my phone which should be fine for your laptop aswell. So the situation has somewhat improved compared to proprietary cables. And it would be a wast to ship a high end cable with every cheap gizmo out there. So yeah just bring your own if you are not satisfied
@VoidField101xdude if you need a high spec cable, then get it. It will still work with all the other devices with USB C. So far USB C is super convenient and if you are no cheap ass that gets his USB c cables Form the McDonald's happy meal toys, you probably won't notice a difference at all. BTW did you know that extension cords for main power are also not created equally. There are different types of cables for different wattages. So you might fry the extension cable if you plug something to big into it. It's a decision of economy. Why over engineer something that doesn't need the extra Capacity. Like those small charging cables for flashlights and bike lights and such. They don't need to transfer data so safe the copper and make do with just a "shitty" cable. This video makes the problem seem bigger than it is. Since USB C actually is pretty convenient to use.
This is like that time I decided I would only buy black socks to avoid losing one sock from every pair. Now I have all black socks… but slightly different shades and textures, enough to be infuriating
My solution was to ditch all my old socks of varying shades and just buy several dozen of the same brand. When I run low on black socks, I'll either ditch them all and get new ones, or buy several dozen dark grey socks.
Finally someone who doesn't think the audio jack is crap! That wasn't the only advantage. It's a century-old standard, which means its backwards compatibility is insane, not to mention that many professional audio devices still use it. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's obsolete, but tech companies advertised as if that were the case. Now we have to buy wireless earbuds for $100 that sound the same as audio jack compatible $1 earbuds.
who they? USB consortium? Why complaining headphone jack on a video that talk about USB C? Buy cheap phone if you want to use headphone jack... People complaining about removed jack, yet still buy electronic from a company that start doing that...
"the nice things about standards is, that you can have so many of them" ans an professional IT guy that citation burned itself in my brain the first time i read it.
@@doremysheep7864 its basically that there are many redundant and incompatible standards where there should be only one. USB-C should be USB-C and include everything, from 100W power delivery to 10GBit data transfer. ONE standard. USB 3.2 with everything included. Thing is, im 50 years old, and ive seen times with mices being serial (even proprietary), keyboards being ps/2, printers being parallel, and USB being the promised land to combine them all. But USB has become worse than what was state of the art 30 years ago - an abomination.
Someone said: „There are like 43 different competing standards! Let’s create one that includes all of them to get rid of this mess!“ Result: There are now 44 competing standards. (I pulled the number out of my hat, but this is basically how it works. I am 90% sure there’s also a Dilbert or XKCD comic about that.)
This was an existing problem before USB-C. Take for example micro USB, there were cables that did not transfer data. We went from a dozen cables and their variations to one cable and it’s variations. Still quite an improvement
And micro USB only has 4 connectors, compared to USB C’s 26. If they needed to make microUSB cheaper by removing 2 cables, you can imagine what USB C manufacturers have to do to make a cheaper cable.
@@tbqhwyfmicro USB was just one example of the different types with different variations. There was all sorts of cables with different connectors, and those had their own variations. Now we have one type with variations.
This is why I just make sure any USB C cables I buy are rated for the highest spec. It can always go down to suit lower end devices, but it can't go up.
Aah ah.. not so fast. My Samsung 25W PD PPS charger with its Type C to Type C PD cable can't charge my cheapo Bluetooth headphones which can be charged with any other Type C cable including the cheapest free one that came with it.. Type C is stupid confusing.
That's a cool idea in theory until you want a 3m (~9ft) long cable because the outlet is in a bit of an impractical place from where you use the phone and now you either find that the fast charging cable with high data transfer specs and video capability costs €300,- or doesn't even exist (because that feature is only available on shorter cables). And let's not even talk about when you need 5m cable length here.
Part of the issue is things that have usb-c ports but don't come with a cable for it, for instance my laptop has a USB c port that supports display out but doesn't come with a cable for it
@@gujwdhufjijjpo9740 think the point is that itll just go away and you know. Get Fucking standardized like literally every piece of tech and connectors that has come out. It is the same shit.
@@iamsheel Exactly for charging my phone. The cheapest cable charges my phone slowly and the more expensive cables charge it faster. What phone do you have, that doesn’t charge?
@@bettertoaster it doesn't matter what phone you have. Bad cables will never charge your phone fast enough, and some will even charge slower than the consumption rate of your battery that it would look like it drains the energy from it.
John, the main purpose of choosing USB-C was initially to reduce the overwhelming abundance of chargers that is impacting the environment. The second one was user convenience. I can't tell you how many time I was at friend's house and when asking for a charger I had no choice but let my phone die because didn't have the type of connector my phone had. All USB-C cables support charging. So it is mission accomplished in my opinion.
Yeah, they are not a perfect, universal, all work amazing solution. But it is absolutely a vetter solution than what was had before. And also, tech will progress and get better, so higher transfer rates and such just makes sense to me happening. Why would you not make faster cables if it was financially feasible. But, his complaint of, manufacturers should be using universal cable identification labels that he made in a comment,(That exists but is rarely used) 1000% agree. They should be labeling these products more clearly to denote such info as video support, no data, etc. Some do, not all.
I've bought many gadgets/devices which came with usb-a-->usb-c charging cables (headphones, flashlights, trimmer..). Almost all of them went straight to the bin because of the ridiculously low charging power, and of course without any markings on the cables themselves, I jad to figure out why it would take an entire day to charge the headphones 🤷♂️ I think there should be an universal power capacity marking on the usb-c cables
It was a thing before as well, the difference is that instead of using usbA, usbB, hdmi, lightning, microusbc, etc, now at least you have a single port. The problem is not usbC, is the cable sellers.
@@TheShitpostExperience It's also fine by me. If every cable had everything you would be paying for a lot of stuff that you don't need. Why pay for a video cable and an ethernet cable when you just need to charge your phone?
Data transfer cables will work as charging cables. By definition, faster transfer speeds require better isolation and stable power references. This is what is needed for charging as well.
Or they could have color coded the tip of the cable and port, that would make it easier to know what standard it is using (like blue = usb3) I quite like the universal cable It means if I ever lose one, I'll easily find an inferior backup. The issue is one size fits all You need to balance: Length Power Data transfer Low price Pick 3
This isnt a problem... power only cables are a security feature so devices can never get infected from being plugged into ports containing malware. Basically no one has a use for the additional price in reason of it have a display function for monitors when things like display port and HDMI exist. This goes on and on It would be like complaining that every single car on the road doesn't go 180 mph while also having 3 rows of seats, a towing capacity of 12000 pounds, 40MPG, truck bed no less than 7" long... Yeah, you could get a vehicle that does all or most of these, but the expense would be astronomical, and no one would need or even want half of the "features."
Honestly I think the main problem was expecting every company to ship out expensive top spec type c cables instead of realizing they can save tons of money on their laptop charger by just shipping a cable with just a few data lines and some thick power lines.
@@chorisoneira7362 That's where I'm at now. I probably have 20 different type C cables that came with various devices, but I only use one or maybe two of them. The rest of them will never get used and probably end up in a landfill as an absolute waste of time, money, and resources. Multiply that by a billion people and we have a serious e-waste problem. We need a good way to send this stuff to companies that can recycle them. We can do it, it's just more expensive than throwing everything away. No one needs dozens of cheap cables when they only use their fast charging cable and occasionally a data transfer cable, but people would get pissed if their new device didn't at least come with a new cord. Remember how upset people were when they stopped shipping charging blocks.
I will be honestly. I didn't know gigabits were a thing, and if we were having a conversation I wouldn't have picked up on it being different. Would've just figured it meant bytes. Thanks for making me learn something today. I was going to say. Who the hecks needs 40 gigabytes per second? Running a damn server on USB C or something?
@@MoMoMonsterkil That is a crazy fact I didn't know. I would have said a gig at most. It is crazy how far compression has come honestly in my lifetime. It is a really interesting tool we plebs don't think about really. I was just thinking about WinZip after thinking about MP3s. Which was since I was reading a conversation about the Voyager message on how many KBs they use. Haven't used WinZip in forever.
It is a huge improvement still, and it's more or less a tier system where the more capable cables can be used for the less demanding tasks. (Like the display rated USB-C can be used as a charging cable as well.) It's insanely annoying with the proprietary implementations though but that goes for all tech. At least now they're not free to make up their own connectors/completely ignore existing standards.
this guy has zero understanding of usb c. its really not hard, and his complaints are so petty and nitpicky its clear he just hasnt put any effort into understanding usb c
@@teancoffee208 Yeah the complaints aren't really valid. The complaint is that a cable 10 years from now is faster and more capable than a cable today, but you may not be able to tell the difference between them? What's the solution here? Unless you're going to require labeling the generation, that's just the way it is.
@@TheNpcNoob Go ahead and look for: “Universal Serial Bus Type-C Cable and Connector Specification Release 2.0 August 2019” USB C specifies both cable and connectors. You’re mistakenly thinking that USB C is only the connector and USB2, USB3, USB PD are the cables. USB C is the connector and cable specifications, USB2,3,PD is the technology and protocol which are separate specifications.
Honestly I'm just glad we have a cord that doesn't break after a few months now. I've literally never had a usb-c stop working before, and that alone makes it worth the confusion
Ah, **USB-C cables**-what an *absolute joke* of a standard in the world of technology! You know, the "one cable to rule them all," they said. One reversible, universally compatible, super-fast solution for every device under the sun. *Yeah, right.* Let me tell you what **really** happens. On paper, the USB-C **A-side** of the connector (you know, the one on the charger or the computer) is great. Rock-solid, reliable, fails approximately **zero** percent of the time. But that’s only **half** the story, folks, because the **C-side**-the part that connects to your device-fails at a rate that can only be described as nothing short of catastrophic. You want reliability? You get the *opposite*. We’re not talking about months of use here. Oh no. These cables have a **half-life** measured in **weeks,** not months. *Weeks.* Some fail **day one**, and by week three or four, nearly all are heading to the tech graveyard. And it's not a subtle failure where you see signs of wear and tear-no, these things just stop working. Power transfer? Forget about it. Data transfer? As if! Oh, and here’s the kicker: they don’t just die on their own quietly in the night. No, these cables have a way of taking your devices with them. After plugging and unplugging the connector a dozen times, the port on your device starts acting up. That pristine USB-C port on your phone or laptop? It’s basically getting ruined by this constant stream of dying cables. Soon, nothing fits properly. Your once-new port feels like it's been attacked by a swarm of defective connectors that wore it out in record time. Is this some hidden conspiracy to make us buy more devices? I wouldn't even be surprised. And don’t tell me this is some kind of *isolated* experience. **Everyone** I know who uses USB-C has this exact same story. It's hard to believe that this isn't universally acknowledged! It's the great silent malfunction of the modern era. We all go on pretending USB-C is great, when in reality, this thing is failing nearly **100 percent** of the time within a matter of days or weeks! So here's my question: **Why are we not talking about this?!** Why isn't this a top-tier tech scandal that gets splashed across headlines every day? Are we seriously just accepting that our cables will die within a month-if we’re lucky-and then possibly wreck our ports, too? Is it just me? Am I the only one plagued by a landfill's worth of USB-C cables that quit before the month is out? Or has this been your experience too? Tell me you haven’t faced this disaster every time you tried to charge your phone, transfer data, or use literally any device that now relies on this **inherently flawed standard**! Let's hear it! Let's get some acknowledgment that this is *the* worst standard to become so widespread in modern tech history!
@@rcstann Dont buy shitty products, i have an cheap oneplus phone and the usb-c port and cable have worked perfectly for like 3 years. At this point i always had problems with the mini usb's, its so much better. But ngl the oneplus cables are the best ones out there in my opinion, they are so solid.
no it’s not. As a physical form factor, it’s even with lighting. I would even say lighting is probably more robust. As a connection standard, it’s worse because there is no standard anymore. Lighting is just held back because Apple refuses to put USB3 speed lighting on their phone when it clearly is capable of it.
Lightening was incredible rugged as a connection since there were no exposed pins to get bent or caked with accidental sand grains at the beach. Worst typically that happens is it gets wet, sends you a message about the moisture on the iPhone, and then you just wait for it to evaporate and use as usual.
Lightning is smaller and was the first cable that could be used in either direction. It was revolutionary. When you’re making products, having a connector that takes up less space on a board is huge. Lightning cables also seem to last forever. Oh, and Apple also helped develop the USB C standard.
That also comes with an issue, if you disconnect an USB-C that's charging a device with a lot of juice, you could accidentally twist it a bit and fry the port. Is not common, specially if you pull it straight, but working repairing smartphones I've seen it a few times, altho' usually the cable burns first.
Yeah man. They also sell tvs in different sizes, internet plans at different speeds, and sometimes they even sell the same foods made with different ingredients. It’s absolute anarchy out here.
So we should have 20 unique cables attached to our devices where just one Universal (USB) cable for all would have made more sense? The resources on the planet are finite, yet we have this brazen attitude towards creating useless junk for the sake of scamming people into giving their money away, let alone just trying to make our lives more practical and simpler.
Bro, you could easily make the same argument for USB or HDMI cables, it's just the nature of the beast. You are going to have variation to satisfy different costs.
Yeah, and the point was the sol'n succumbs to the same problem. The problem is the lack of standards. This beast isn't natural. It's mans' idiocy: artificial stupidity.
Usb-C was supposed to be the chosen one, Anakin! You were supposed to unite as under one standard, uniform connectivity cable, but all you did was make it more confusing! Tech companies shouldnt be forced to follow the uniform, they should WANT to. But when one company takes the first step to making their USB-C unique, everybody wants to, making it all one big mess.
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You can´t simply make the same cable for everything. The fact that we have the same connector format is already a miracle. It makes no sense to produce a cable that can move 4K video in real time for something like a phone, where you will be using it for charging the battery and, sometimes, for transfering a few GB of data. I think that we are on the correct path.
There are still too many standards. Should be 3: charging, data+charging, video+data+charging. Also they should be immediately identifiable visually via unified color scheme (on the metal connectors).
It's not better if you buy a cable and it won't charge your device. It used to be that if a cable fit, it worked. Not sure who's behind usb connectors, but they have failed miserably.
Exactly. Wasn't it the same with the first UTP cables? They were uniform, but you had Crossed over and straight-through. Most home networks nowadays just use straight UTP connections. No need to figure out whether that HUB needs a crossed over connection anymore. They just standardized it. But dag-nabbit it took a while. Just because technology isn't completely "there" yet. Doesn't mean it's not the solution to a serious problem (in this case e-waste).
The no data transfer cable is increasingly necessary in public spaces where apparently people can convert public USB ports to flash drives without being stopped.
can't the people doing that also switch out the cable? Also most phones will ask if you trust the device you're connected too now, although I can see less experienced users just clicking through that.
@@brauljo yeah I was thinking about a situation where the cable is already there for you and then I realized that that's not how places do it. Makes more sense to me now
@Slackow , I'm thinking of an airport, hotel (where obviously no one should be watching), and bars/restaurants. More and more public spaces are offering the opportunity charge your device, and it is possible for a programmer to tell a device that it already has permission to download or upload everything and anything. Considering how much of our personal and financial lives are auto-saved on these fucking phones, imagine the horror while on vacation to find out your profile was cloned and sent into the ether-web. Hell, I remember a decade ago reading a warning from a White-hat Hacker (the good guys) who traveled through China to get to a conference in Japan. He ran a sweep of his computer and found that the CCP had automatically downloaded a shit ton of Spyware just from using airport Wi-Fi.
@@Crazt I mean there are exploits but most modern devices will ask if you trust the device you're connected to, the device you plug into can't override that prompt unless you mindlessly say "yes"
Everything you said is not related to "usb-c", its related to the USB Version (3.0, 3.1, and such). Once you specify the correct version, the power and data bandwidth should be there to meet the standard requirements :)
@@LimaHotel807 He sort of related usc-c connector (which is just the physical interface) to the market of cables that only charge, have low speeds, etc.. which is a real problem but not related to the "shape of the plug" itself ^^
I thought so too. USB-C is not the cable. I was confused. Like is there a usbc port that doesnt charge or is only for the monitor? Why blame the port for the wrong cable? You wanna go back to different ports and sockets for the keyboard, mouse, monitor, printer, audio, storage, and power?
And don't forget that so many USB-C devices continue to use proprietary technology for charging. On phones you'll often need the original OEM power adapter for higher charging speeds because they decided to make something themselves instead of just using USB-PD. This IMO is a huge issue and one that somehow needs to be addressed.
everytime i see something about USB-C i'm ready to defend the connector as it's never wallowed out on me. as a 2000s kid i'm just happy that connectors stay fixed now. No elastic bands no more.
Really depends on the quality of the cable and connector. I've had two phones fail from connectors failing, and multiple cables failing whether they be expensive or cheap. Yes, that includes using the cables that came with the device.
Honestly had no idea about the different download speeds and such! I always wondered why I had issues with charging/transferring on some cords, though! Thanks for sharing!
Basically if they deisnged every cable to do every function it would be expensive and bulky. My cable capable of doing 100watts is a THICK boy. Almost as thick as my laptop charger. I got it to charge my phone so its more durable. The power cable should be pretty obvious, but the data less so. Basically if you want max speeds or fast charging, its going to cost you. If you get something cheap, its going to do all of it mediocrely.
@@Geopirate3 The Apple thing is easy. Just don't buy iPhones because they aren't good anyway. Use anything Apple but avoid iPhones and any Lightning accessories.
1. EU rules on USB-C only encompasses charging, which they did (every USB-C cable regardless of whatever else it does, is also a charging cable). 2. If you had to buy a $100 certified Thunderbolt cable just to charge your phones you'd be more pissed.
Now imagine if you need a longer charging cable because the outlet isn't exactly near your sofa or something. I use a 3m (~9ft) charging cable every day. Theoretically, I might be able to buy a fully-spec'd cable of that length for €300,- in reality, those cables don't exactly exist. But clear symbols on the cable telling you the specs really WOULD be nice.
@@TheFeldhamster Yes, make Thunderbolt cables have a marking like a bolt symbol with version number etc. and also create some symbol for power delivery with the different power levels. Those with the charge-only cables would cover almost all scenarios already.
At least things are marginally better since everything fits. If you want peace of mind, outfit everything with the best cables and you won’t need to think about it again.
actually this made it easier for me. I paid a little extra for data and power cables years ago, they still working like champs and I never have to figure out which is which. I did get one video cable but in a different color and shorter.
There is one major improvement with usb-c over micro USB and that simply is the end of the cord that plugs into things doesn't break or bend out of position as easily. I found so many of the micro USB cables to bend out of position so often that it gets so frustrating that I actually have to hold my phone or device in a specific way or hold the end of the cable that plugs into it in a specific way to make sure it actually charges but that doesn't usually happen ever with USB c. But I will point out that yes it's frustrating that there are some things that don't quite work out like well everything you pointed out
Different devices require different amp power, some can be used for USB transfer for a reason: usb-c is small, need specific tech for it to work. I'm just theorizing but I think the change is great
We all understand those whys, but the original intent was for that not to be true. That's what something being a "standard" means. Everybody using the same protocol.
@@Coms7274 they're actually kinda standardized, even trough not with color symbol (anymore), on reputable manufacturers for USB-C, you easily identify what protocol it's support, like lighting symbols or USB40 for thunderbolt 3/USB 4.0, Displayport logo next to USB to signify that the cable support DisplayPort Alt modeetc, it's not quite as easy like color coded transistor, but it's works
I'm fine with this. More often than not the spec information is on the product page. Only get the cables that you NEED and that should only be a couple.
I mean this is exactly what they said it was going to do. Before USBC we had like 19 different form factors and all of these in all of those form factors, now we have one form factor with a shitload of variations instead of 19 with a shitload of variations it's still better. Now yes it would be amazing if the people who were actually creating these cables were properly labeling them with either the correct color code or the correct notation so that you could tell what your tables did at a glance. That part of the standardization has definitely not happened. And it would be nice if the USB standardization group actually had any power to fix that but they don't because it is such a big standard. It's what comes with something being as important as USB has become. Because as much as people might want to bitch about there being tons of different types of USB cables we also need all of those different types. Pretty much all of them serve a purpose and if we didn't have them people would create types of cables that aren't USBC to fill those purposes and we would be back exactly where we were. Life sucks.
What are these 19 different form factors of a USB plug? The only ones I'm aware of besides USB-C are A (which everything uses), B (which is basically only used by printers), Mini (which nothing uses anymore), and Micro (which used to be standard until USB-C decided to replace it for no particular reason). And yes, there are 3.0 versions of A, B, and Micro, but they're all backwards compatible with the previous versions. The idea that USB-C needed to be created in order to reduce the number of standards associated with USB is both idiotic and factually incorrect. There are still tons of devices in use that use the other connection types. Creating a new connector increments the total number of connector types by one. It doesn't eliminate any of them.
@@rars0n My iPad cable can charge my phone, MacBook, vape, headphones, speakers, and power bank. Same goes for my phone cable or MacBook cable, and so on. It’s not perfect, and not all cables charge every device as fast as the original or transfer data at the same speed, but hey, it’s still a thousand times better knowing one cable works with all my devices in a pinch instead of having to carry 4-5 different ones around.
@@methoxii You're literally just stating "All of my devices have the same port." Congratulations. For those of us that still have devices with other ports on them (my PS4 controllers, for instance), USB-C just means that now I have to have yet another cable sitting around to charge my phone. Except it's not just one cable, it's several because USB-C cables are flakey pieces of shit that stop working properly if you look at them wrong. Again, we're talking about USB here. It's not some proprietary connection that is different on every single device, it's literally just Mini or Micro that devices previously used. Two different connectors, one of which is far more common than the other. I have no idea why people are pretending that this was so problematic.
Note: if all companies would actually label what their cables can do on the cable itself that would go a long way. The standardized labels exist, they're just not being used.
Oooo, I didn't read that before replying.
Shut up
It's still somewhat better, the springs in the micro USB was a joke
Note: if you learned the very simple difference between gigabits and gigabytes then your video might have a chance of making sense. 🤦♂️
@@MADmosche you get the context.
“Some cables are used for external monitors, some dont”. This ruined my school presentation once…. In the fuken school auditorium
Oof
Prepare to fail, or fail to prepare - you chose. Perform a dry run of all presentations.
@@strangelyukrainian7314 when school is a business, not a place to educate and at siege by rampant gun crime, maybe, but in countries where the focus is on doing well, learning and you are allowed to prepare for a presentation maybe.
My point is, if you haven't realised by watching this channel, the world doesn't spin around America or its practices. The world is more diverse and interesting than the neighbourhood on your doorstep. Everyone thinks differently and behaves differently.
@@dennis8196 yes and even with that deep commentary on society, it is a still an annoyance that is easily solved by better cable labelling like ethernet. No need to go into global philosophy lol
wow that's weird I've never seen USB C projector, even HDMI is rare, it's VGA all the way hahaha
"There are 15 competing standards"
"That's awful, i'll make one standard to unite them all"
Result: "There are 16 competing standards"
One standard with 16 different cables. Same thing.
xkcd comic
@@pakassassin9605 indeed
We know this joke, but it doesn't really apply here.
@@arnoldsenokopenko6093 why not?
"Hey Fred, what happens when we plug 10 volts in the 5 volt slot?"
"We find new jobs, Barny."
Charging bricks have adaptive voltage. The device requests the voltage it needs, the charger doesn't just pump power into it at its highest output.
@@Jorvalt True but if you have a set voltage device and plug it into another source you get a blown out port.
Then there’s devices like Nintendo Switch, which uses a USB-C port, but isn’t actually using USB. Use the wrong charger and you might brick it.
@@PhatPazzo It's still USB, I have no idea what you mean.
It just doesn't work with variable output chargers, so any variable charger will always output at its lowest voltage.
The "looks the same but different speed/features" has always been true, even in the mini/micro usb days.
IKR? this video was annoying. USB-C is a connector, not a standard for the entire cable
@@SourCyanide The video misses the point of USB-C. It's not on cable to rule them all, its one connector. The protocol is what varies. If you want a cable to carry the 100W (actually much more now), video, i2C, sound, HID, and the dozens of other protocols, you might find that cable is thick, short, and heavy - because the PD spec cable is going to be a thick cable, and if you need it to carry the extra for speed, it's several pairs of twisted wire as well as the power cable, so you have just doubled the thickness and weight of the cable, then you will be complaining your device broke from using an impractical cable for minor tasks.
No matter how you communicate the right way to do something, people will miss understand then spread incorrect information.
@@dennis8196 also can't your pc identify the speed?
@@badoem5353 the protocol checks if the cable is able to reliably transfer data at whatever speen both parties (host and slave) can do. That is it checks the cable for all wires or some, if the connection is RF noisy and if there is an interface chip in it. Depending upon what it finds, the speed maybe fast or slow, or may drop mid file transfer. Same for all cables and protocols.
The cable debuted as the fix-all solution, not just the symmetry solution. Turns out, it did not fix all. Just as you say, the problem persists.
At least the headache of trying to insert the cable the right way is over.
Insert it any way you like
"headache"
until your phone stops charging on one side but not the other :/
That headache was never experienced by iPhone users 😂 Anyone got mad over this comment is a toxic sore loser in real life, you know you are. 😂
That's what she said
Instructions unclear, currently waiting for the x-ray results.
“So is it the same cable?”
“Yes but actually no”
All the same kind but all different types
They look the same, but they aren't!
Some of it is, and some of it isn't.
Thank you, for the much needed USB rant. I feel your pain 😤
Companies
"Awe that's cute they thought we where trying to help"
In an effort to create unity, they made differentiating completely different cables impossible, a modern problem caused by unnecessary change.
@@3nd04 ah yes, the poor companies had to do it. If only they hadn't been forced to take such a drastic change. After all, without it they definetily would have made standardized cables that could work on every device. There's no way they would continue to have exclusive cables. And even if they did it's totally better to have cables that don't fit and have different specs than it is to have cables that fit and have different specs. Right?
Lmao *perfect*
@@VitaeLibra no they wouldn't cause no one would admit their cable was worse
@@batsardcat3285 Sarcasm...
Welcome to the world of USB, where practically nothing has changed. Except things are still better than they used to be, and just as confusing
Hello, fellow Darling in the Franxx enjoyer
Haha
Darling in the franxx 😍
@@熊ちゃん-h7t ?
Still going to be less waste, just gonna be more confusing
Just buy 1 good usb c cable and you have one that can do absolutely everything
As a person without any of those worries. Being able to charge my phone, headphones, tablet and controllers with one cord is friggin great
Cool for you, but you missed the point.
Different applications call for different cables, IE: data transfer cables vs charging cables. They are a thing, and yes, as frustrating as it is to learn the difference, it's necessary to know the difference.
but USB was always meant to be jack of all trades. That was the idea to be universal system bus, nothing specialised.
@@brandonmoon5388 the thing is, for charging you now only have one cable. Great if you ask me - a person who does not use their laptop for big screen presentations or has large files needing to be moved physically from one device to another on a regular basis.
@@megustAslagt Yeah, well, not always the case! I had to make sure that I got a cable that was capable of power delivery to get a device to charge - so not always true.
@@brandonmoon5388 just use a cable that can transfer data and charge
You were supposed to destroy the sith, not join them.
i laughed harder than i should have
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I laughed so hard at this for no reason I'm such a nerd 🤣 😂 💀
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But it’s all over Anakin, I have the Highground.
I HATE YOU!!! 😂
"you were suppose to end the cable clutter not join them" - only one cable-nobi
When you finally find the correct cable that fast charges: Hello there.
one cable to rule them all!!
@@MrCarlosj0 and it charges slower than you expected.
I was looking for this comment. 😜
@@julianw5692 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo!
It wasnt the hero we wanted, it was the hero we needed.
Me who uses my computer charger for my phone: Ayo, that's crazy.
Its the only one I can guarantee can transmit the full 45 watts. Even the cable that came with the phone won't fast charge.
Yeah he acts like they aren't backwards compatible. Just buy a cable that's capable of fast charging and high speed data transfer then use it for everything else.
Fun fact: yes most usb c laptop charger are smart enough to recognize what device they plugged to and how much power they should give.
You just gotta use the orignal laptop charger or a good charger that you can trust on and not some cheap Chinese crap
@@bishop912 THEY DONT LIKE TO SPEND AND ONLY COMPLAIN
You’re quite lucky that you haven’t fried your phone!
“40 gigabytes” lol I wish! It’s gigabits mate
😭😭😭 it's the worst when you realise that
I have been being scammed for years from those internet providers
Really not that big of a difference though, 8x ain't much when we're in the billions. That's 125 times less than the difference between a megabit and gigabit, and people confuse those more often
@@stephentorrey8727 ??? 8x means multiplied, and it definitely matters in this subject
A common mistake
It actually half of that.
Electronics engineer here, the trouble is usb C while awesome is a really really complicated standard. Many of the items in the spec are optional and it’s really expensive to add all the stuff to make a 40 gbps cable AND have it do 100W of power. So companies cut corners and implement only what their product needs from the spec thus breaking the perfect compatibility :/
I really don't see how that's a big issue. He named like 3 different classes of cables. If you can't keep track of 3 cables you own I don't think the cable is the problem there. And for the vast majority of people, the primary purpose is simply charging, and that can be done with 1 cable, just get a cable that can power your device that requires the most power and it works for all.
@@hadhamalnamthe cable for my 3D printer, laptop, phone, steamdeck, display, car, PC, etc... all look exactly the same but are not at all interchangeable. Previously we had cables for each of these just like we do now but they all were very identifiable.
@@dillzilla4454but why do they break so Quick ??
Devices seem to kill them imo.
Im guessing they bend the Connection point after limited use
Also just labeling them would be nice too. I mean, if I buy a 10$ cable from a store, I don't expect it to do much more than charge my phone but I've never seen packaging stating those other capabilities. I also haven't had a need to look so...lol
And as always, the political nitwits of the European Commission didn’t understand this and made USB C mandatory. The Apple lightning connector is superior to USB C. Try to remove the dirt from the connector on both standards and you know why…
This is actually more confusing to me than having visually different connectors for the different abilities cables have.
_One cable to rule them all. One cable to find them. One cable to bring them all. And in the darkness bind them._
*In the land of Silicon Valley, where the shadows lie.*
My man rhymed “all” with “all” and “them” with “them”
@@microsd4294 this ain't a poem it's a famous line from lord of the rings
yes but some usb c are more equal than other usb c
@@microsd4294 Either your comment is satire or you seriously lack class.
Put engineers back in charge, get rid of the marketing guys, and the hr department, and we can go back to standards and interoperability.
there is a reason they arent.
@@bsblleon01 I think the point was, if I have 10 USB-C cables in my house, but they all work completely differently, how can I never know what does what? None of the ones I have, keep their respective speeds and details on hand.
@@FriendxABecause they are stupid? I agree. Engineers aren’t your enemy, they are your friend. Riddle me this, if everything looks the same then how do you know where anything goes?
@@FriendxA Yes, but not a reasonable one.
I think thats how we got here in the first place.
Bro, I just wanna be able to plug my phone in , while drunk, and not looking.
It does that well
im still putting it between my phone and phone cover lol
Get a iPhone.
@@Youngbl33zy no
@@Youngbl33zy Iphone Are Trash. Their Only Around For Hipsters & Ppl That Fall For The Hype
Might charge slower or not give you full res, but that's still better than not being able to use it at all. The new labelling with speed and power ratings should help a lot.
@@Dimitris_Half Yes because my friend can charge his phone with my charger overnight, even if he forgot his charger/cable
@@Dimitris_Half Yes. I remember when phones all had custom cables and you'd be at a friend's house and not be able to charge it, because they didn't have a cable compatible with your phone. Charging slowly is a hell of a lot better than that. "Better than nothing" is *absolutely* valuable in a lot of situations.
@@lattyware I imagine a lot of people on TH-cam are too young to remember that time
that does not help with my OCD
"Hello darkness my old friend" 🎶 😂
The non-data-transfer cables are actually very useful. Some public chargers can actually be hacked so that you're at risk of transferring some bad shit to your phone. IMO manufacturers should include a non-data cable for the charger, and optionally a separate data cable, maybe in another color.
Exact, it's a feature. He calls himself a nerd gear head but doesn't understand this very important point 🤦♂️
The risk of public chargers is minimal. For one, the odds of connecting to a malicious charger is very low. For another, it has to take advantage of a flaw in your specific phone. USB-related flaws (and even OTG command sequences) are usually extremely specific to individual OSes, if not individual models. If it's not taking advantage of a flaw to bypass security, you get a prompt asking if you want to trust the computer, a huge red flag for what should be just power. Finally, a malicious public charger that attacks connected devices has to have a mechanism to store and/or transmit collected data. The ways of transmitting this are limited and leave evidence, and the presence of the malicious device makes for additional evidence of the crime. There's a reason that no such devices have been found in the wild. In over a dozen years since the first reports of such attack capabilities from researchers, not one verified malicious station has been identified.
If you're that worried, get a USB condom that allows power but not data. You don't need an entirely separate cable.
@@JarrodFrates Yeah, that is in fact true. Most if not all modern OSes are extremely secure and by default Android will just not allow any data going in or out unless you specifically tell it to, but it's better to be safe than sorry as they say. I'm not entirely sure if those attacks are all that common and I assume they aren't but as a security standard I wouldn't be mad seeing something like this. And yeah "USB condoms" are great for this already.
Bs, phones nowadays ask you to trust the source
And this is exactly the reason it's so frustrating. Yes, I do realize the actual usage of this exists, but it still doesn't change the fact that usb-c isn't what it was marketed to be. A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. It doesn't matter if it isn't a one size fits all solution, just don't goddamn market it as one!
And the only result is that we can't even visually distinguish them anymore 😂
@Andrew Smythe does each wire say what they do if you don't have the package? Cause how you gonna remember what each wire can do otherwise.
@@Tues48 Exactly. And add to that entropy the device too: back in the day if you saw a DVI port it was obvious that it was a video out, with USB-C who knows? Especially smartphones not all have video out trough usb.
@@karellen00 So is it a DVI-D, DVI-A or a cable which can do both? And what does the device support?
Pretty much every data cable standard has this problem.
@@NorthcodeNoCh It was possible to distinguish the pins, or at least you knew it was a video port. With usb it can be video, data (with huge variability from the old usb 2.0 to 20 Gbps), or even charge only with various power ratings.
@@Tues48 Yes a lot of them actually do have it written either on the cable or there's a small tape going around the cable that says what it does. Bought my cable a couple of years ago and I know it can transfer max 480 mbit/s and for charging it's 3A.
"You've become the very thing you swore to destroy"
You were the chosen one! You were supposed to save us from chaos, not join it!
I actually love that some cables only charge and not transfer data. I specifically use such cables when I'm traveling and plug it into public USB chargers, like in busses and airplanes for example.
Yeah, otherwise you could download the bus onto ur device or whatever transport you use
Yes, that's how companies take and monitor your data. Through USB-C ports.
How would that possibly make a difference?
Surely you could just make a small dongle where only the power pins are connected for use in public environments?
@@terriblecode Lmfao 😂😂😂
Couldn't find anyone else mentioning this, so i will. The transfer speeds you showed are in Giga**bits** (Gb) not Giga**bytes** (GB). The difference is a difference of 8 times, 1 byte is 8 bits.
That's when they don't use Gibibytes which should never have existed. We were fine with having 1k = 1024 bytes
Usb 4 (40) only 5gb / per sec
@fstemarie difference is even more extrem than gibibits/bytes. 8 Gibibytes = 8.5 gigagbytes. 8 Gigabits is one Gigabyte. He messed up bit/Byte, not Gibi/Giga. Point stand usb/data standards are gone wild 😂
1 GB 🟰 1,000,000,000 bytes
Fundamentally, yes. But the reason gigabit is used is because it's the measurement of the speed of transfer, while gigabyte is the measurement of storage. Two completely different applications
The thing is, you can charge your phone with any of those USB-C cables and that's the biggest thing.
@VoidField101x so what
Bring a cable then.
@VoidField101x if you got such a laptop bring the cable with you, like you always had to. Also with the Advent of quick sharing phones it shouldn't be such a big problem.
My cable can do 40W for my phone which should be fine for your laptop aswell.
So the situation has somewhat improved compared to proprietary cables.
And it would be a wast to ship a high end cable with every cheap gizmo out there.
So yeah just bring your own if you are not satisfied
@VoidField101xdude if you need a high spec cable, then get it.
It will still work with all the other devices with USB C.
So far USB C is super convenient and if you are no cheap ass that gets his USB c cables Form the McDonald's happy meal toys, you probably won't notice a difference at all.
BTW did you know that extension cords for main power are also not created equally. There are different types of cables for different wattages. So you might fry the extension cable if you plug something to big into it.
It's a decision of economy. Why over engineer something that doesn't need the extra Capacity.
Like those small charging cables for flashlights and bike lights and such.
They don't need to transfer data so safe the copper and make do with just a "shitty" cable.
This video makes the problem seem bigger than it is. Since USB C actually is pretty convenient to use.
Nope. I upgraded my phone and none of the USB-C cables that I had been using worked on my new phone, which was also USB-C
@@charlieholmes3147 lol what?
Even a cheap super thin 5w cable will slowly charge your phone.
Sounds pretty unbelievable to me imo
Do not let this guy know that gigabytes are different from gigabits...
This is like that time I decided I would only buy black socks to avoid losing one sock from every pair. Now I have all black socks… but slightly different shades and textures, enough to be infuriating
underrated comment
Done the same, years ago. I feel your pain.
But it means in a pinch it works
Same 😂
My solution was to ditch all my old socks of varying shades and just buy several dozen of the same brand. When I run low on black socks, I'll either ditch them all and get new ones, or buy several dozen dark grey socks.
can’t believe they removed the 3.5mm audio jack. it’s small, it’s convenient, it’s cheap, it’s simple, and it does it’s job perfectly.
Finally someone who doesn't think the audio jack is crap! That wasn't the only advantage. It's a century-old standard, which means its backwards compatibility is insane, not to mention that many professional audio devices still use it. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's obsolete, but tech companies advertised as if that were the case. Now we have to buy wireless earbuds for $100 that sound the same as audio jack compatible $1 earbuds.
I will never not be curious about that.
who they? USB consortium? Why complaining headphone jack on a video that talk about USB C? Buy cheap phone if you want to use headphone jack... People complaining about removed jack, yet still buy electronic from a company that start doing that...
I don't miss headphone jack.
Get a good quality hifi portable DAC and it's far better than 3.5mm jack.
Until you realized that all signals are digitized!
"the nice things about standards is, that you can have so many of them"
ans an professional IT guy that citation burned itself in my brain the first time i read it.
I'm not gonna pretend that made sense. Wtf did you just say?
@@doremysheep7864 its basically that there are many redundant and incompatible standards where there should be only one.
USB-C should be USB-C and include everything, from 100W power delivery to 10GBit data transfer.
ONE standard. USB 3.2 with everything included.
Thing is, im 50 years old, and ive seen times with mices being serial (even proprietary), keyboards being ps/2, printers being parallel, and USB being the promised land to combine them all. But USB has become worse than what was state of the art 30 years ago - an abomination.
@@cutterboard4144 Thank you for the clarification.
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Someone said: „There are like 43 different competing standards! Let’s create one that includes all of them to get rid of this mess!“
Result: There are now 44 competing standards.
(I pulled the number out of my hat, but this is basically how it works. I am 90% sure there’s also a Dilbert or XKCD comic about that.)
Missed opportunity of an edit of ObiWan yelling at Anakin “YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!”
This was an existing problem before USB-C. Take for example micro USB, there were cables that did not transfer data. We went from a dozen cables and their variations to one cable and it’s variations. Still quite an improvement
And micro USB only has 4 connectors, compared to USB C’s 26. If they needed to make microUSB cheaper by removing 2 cables, you can imagine what USB C manufacturers have to do to make a cheaper cable.
You can have a one cable fits all, it's just that it also costs more. It's called a thunderbolt cable. Usb-c to usb-c with everything included.
To me it sounds like we had 2 types of micro USB, which then became 30 types of USB-C
@@tbqhwyfmicro USB was just one example of the different types with different variations. There was all sorts of cables with different connectors, and those had their own variations. Now we have one type with variations.
Yep
Back in my day… Every cell phone had a different charger 😂
The Bible is truth. Please read at least three books, Genesis Mathew and one you chose yourself.
@@jamesmayle3787 agh shut up whit youre biblecal nonsense .
@@jamesmayle3787 get yo copy/pasting ass outta here
@@jamesmayle3787 Book of Mormon count?
@@jamesmayle3787 book of incest
This is why I just make sure any USB C cables I buy are rated for the highest spec. It can always go down to suit lower end devices, but it can't go up.
Aah ah.. not so fast.
My Samsung 25W PD PPS charger with its Type C to Type C PD cable can't charge my cheapo Bluetooth headphones which can be charged with any other Type C cable including the cheapest free one that came with it.. Type C is stupid confusing.
Wait until your cables are not highest spec anymore
@@athivignesh3994 huh, my 65w laptop charger can charge my 40 euro wireless bluetooth earphones, aswell as any other usb c device I have
That's a cool idea in theory until you want a 3m (~9ft) long cable because the outlet is in a bit of an impractical place from where you use the phone and now you either find that the fast charging cable with high data transfer specs and video capability costs €300,- or doesn't even exist (because that feature is only available on shorter cables).
And let's not even talk about when you need 5m cable length here.
Honestly couldn't believe the first time I ran into a usb-c that couldn't transfer data. I felt like I was my grandparents.
My mental requirements to use each device with the cable it came with has honestly saved me from this issue
I can't. My cat eats any cable not braided.
Unless you play pokemon go and burn through cables like a hummer does gas😅
this was life before USB
Part of the issue is things that have usb-c ports but don't come with a cable for it, for instance my laptop has a USB c port that supports display out but doesn't come with a cable for it
Until you realize all those other cables also put us through same shenanigans.
Atleast in one case you can tell if it's going to work or not vs literally having all cables that look the same but being not even remotely similar
You missed the point of the video. And at least the cables used to look a bit different so you could see the difference.
@@filiphedman4392 you missed the point of the comment, read again
@@farkasfulop6476 - the comment is wrong tho. You could tell the difference so it wasn’t the same “shenanigans”
@@gujwdhufjijjpo9740 think the point is that itll just go away and you know. Get Fucking standardized like literally every piece of tech and connectors that has come out. It is the same shit.
Still an improvement. Usually a cheaper cable still works. Slower, but it still works.
And the good ones work on everything unlike before
Not for charging your phone.
Can't expect a $2 cable to support your 80watt adapter.
@@iamsheel Exactly for charging my phone. The cheapest cable charges my phone slowly and the more expensive cables charge it faster. What phone do you have, that doesn’t charge?
@@bettertoaster it doesn't matter what phone you have. Bad cables will never charge your phone fast enough, and some will even charge slower than the consumption rate of your battery that it would look like it drains the energy from it.
the answer is to colour code the ends depending on capability
“You were the chosen one!”
“It was said that you would destroy the cable problem, not join it!”
"Join the cable problem."
😂 i knew someone will put this
Yoda: The Force is idiotic, with this one, hmph.
You've become the very thing you swore to destroy
I have the high ground
John, the main purpose of choosing USB-C was initially to reduce the overwhelming abundance of chargers that is impacting the environment. The second one was user convenience. I can't tell you how many time I was at friend's house and when asking for a charger I had no choice but let my phone die because didn't have the type of connector my phone had. All USB-C cables support charging. So it is mission accomplished in my opinion.
Yeah, they are not a perfect, universal, all work amazing solution. But it is absolutely a vetter solution than what was had before. And also, tech will progress and get better, so higher transfer rates and such just makes sense to me happening. Why would you not make faster cables if it was financially feasible.
But, his complaint of, manufacturers should be using universal cable identification labels that he made in a comment,(That exists but is rarely used) 1000% agree. They should be labeling these products more clearly to denote such info as video support, no data, etc. Some do, not all.
I've bought many gadgets/devices which came with usb-a-->usb-c charging cables (headphones, flashlights, trimmer..). Almost all of them went straight to the bin because of the ridiculously low charging power, and of course without any markings on the cables themselves, I jad to figure out why it would take an entire day to charge the headphones 🤷♂️
I think there should be an universal power capacity marking on the usb-c cables
"All usb c cables supported charging"
Bro.
@@itsarian. You may have some difficulties reading the English language then. That is EXACTLY the point that I am making with my comment. "Bro"
@@orizg not all usb c cables support charging
This was a thing with previous cables, as well, not as intense, but I frequently stumbled on data transfer cables when looking for chargers
It was a thing before as well, the difference is that instead of using usbA, usbB, hdmi, lightning, microusbc, etc, now at least you have a single port. The problem is not usbC, is the cable sellers.
Even lightning has same problems. Not all of the apple cables are the same. It's not really a problem, just the way to make some cables cheaper.
Now I get why the oculus sells one for £90
@@TheShitpostExperience It's also fine by me. If every cable had everything you would be paying for a lot of stuff that you don't need.
Why pay for a video cable and an ethernet cable when you just need to charge your phone?
Data transfer cables will work as charging cables. By definition, faster transfer speeds require better isolation and stable power references. This is what is needed for charging as well.
Johnny Harris, in his weekly "That thing you like actually sucks" PSA.
That’s because you’re mistaking the connector with the cable. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
WHOOSH
Exactly.
Jonny Harris takes too much fentynal
Jonny Harris is shallow as a puddle and his videos
@@pllyons3359 yes we know
All the variants you mentioned were present at the start of usb-c - the problem is they still exist, not that they showed up.
Or they could have color coded the tip of the cable and port, that would make it easier to know what standard it is using (like blue = usb3)
I quite like the universal cable
It means if I ever lose one, I'll easily find an inferior backup.
The issue is one size fits all
You need to balance:
Length
Power
Data transfer
Low price
Pick 3
But even after several years they haven't done enough to fix it. Apple wasn't the only one to drag their feet.
@@andreas4010Blue does NOT automatically equal USB3 and if you were into tech as much as you seem to think you are, you’d know that.
@@askmeaboutsugma i was using it as an example, and whilst it's not a strict requirement, it's a guideline to color usb3 + ports as blue
This isnt a problem... power only cables are a security feature so devices can never get infected from being plugged into ports containing malware. Basically no one has a use for the additional price in reason of it have a display function for monitors when things like display port and HDMI exist. This goes on and on
It would be like complaining that every single car on the road doesn't go 180 mph while also having 3 rows of seats, a towing capacity of 12000 pounds, 40MPG, truck bed no less than 7" long...
Yeah, you could get a vehicle that does all or most of these, but the expense would be astronomical, and no one would need or even want half of the "features."
Honestly I think the main problem was expecting every company to ship out expensive top spec type c cables instead of realizing they can save tons of money on their laptop charger by just shipping a cable with just a few data lines and some thick power lines.
Wouldn't it be cheaper if you didn't have to provide an expensive cable if the user already had that cable?
@@chorisoneira7362 That's where I'm at now. I probably have 20 different type C cables that came with various devices, but I only use one or maybe two of them. The rest of them will never get used and probably end up in a landfill as an absolute waste of time, money, and resources. Multiply that by a billion people and we have a serious e-waste problem. We need a good way to send this stuff to companies that can recycle them. We can do it, it's just more expensive than throwing everything away. No one needs dozens of cheap cables when they only use their fast charging cable and occasionally a data transfer cable, but people would get pissed if their new device didn't at least come with a new cord. Remember how upset people were when they stopped shipping charging blocks.
“There are nine different standards. Somebody introduces a new standard to replace the previous nine. There are now ten different standards.”
All I can think of is the scene of obi wan crying and screaming about how anakin was meant to be he chosen one
Bro I was about to comment that 😂
Same
"You were the Chosen One USB-C! You were supposed to destroy the fragmentation, not join them!"
And you didn’t even mention the totally helpful naming scheme 🙃
This has been fixed now they are just to say USB then the speed So USB 20gbps,
Cz hes lazy
ah yes USB 3.2 Gen2x2
@@kaktus9414 I was kinda hoping they would just keep adding 2s to the end. Like they were doing for the 14++ nanometer process
small note: those measurements are gigaBITS per second, separate from gigaBYTES. a gigabit is 1/8 of a gigabyte
Came here because of this 😅
I will be honestly. I didn't know gigabits were a thing, and if we were having a conversation I wouldn't have picked up on it being different. Would've just figured it meant bytes.
Thanks for making me learn something today.
I was going to say. Who the hecks needs 40 gigabytes per second? Running a damn server on USB C or something?
@dianapennepacker6854 yeah. 40 gigabit however can easily be taken up by raw uncompressed video
@@MoMoMonsterkil That is a crazy fact I didn't know. I would have said a gig at most.
It is crazy how far compression has come honestly in my lifetime. It is a really interesting tool we plebs don't think about really.
I was just thinking about WinZip after thinking about MP3s. Which was since I was reading a conversation about the Voyager message on how many KBs they use.
Haven't used WinZip in forever.
True story i talked to a guy that works for a company that prototypes data/power connectors... He didnt know the difference between bytes and bits.
I need someone to make a guide showing what the best USB-C cable is and I'll just buy like 10 of them in varying sizes and never have to worry
It is a huge improvement still, and it's more or less a tier system where the more capable cables can be used for the less demanding tasks. (Like the display rated USB-C can be used as a charging cable as well.)
It's insanely annoying with the proprietary implementations though but that goes for all tech. At least now they're not free to make up their own connectors/completely ignore existing standards.
The proprietary tech sometimes help keep the costs down. For example with proprietary fast charging solutions
Still though with the proprietary tech (thunderbolt). A TB4 cable will still function as a usb-c sync cable for a gen-1 device.
It's not an improvement in any way other than reversibility, which is an idiotic reason to use an objectively bad cable connector.
@@rars0nhow is USB C connector objectively bad?
@@lazer8776 It sacrifices durability for convenience, making the cables more complex, expensive, and prone to failure.
"Bona fide nerd gearhead"
"40 gigabytes per second"
lmao
Jiggabytes*
Lolll
lolll
There's so many goddamn people who make that mistake.. It's insane.
I love standards. There's so many to choose from.
Good one!
@@michaelwarren2391 exactly one, and it's one of the worst type of connections
@@SpaniardNL Did you miss the sarcastic humor of the original comment?
this guy has zero understanding of usb c. its really not hard, and his complaints are so petty and nitpicky its clear he just hasnt put any effort into understanding usb c
@@teancoffee208 Yeah the complaints aren't really valid. The complaint is that a cable 10 years from now is faster and more capable than a cable today, but you may not be able to tell the difference between them? What's the solution here? Unless you're going to require labeling the generation, that's just the way it is.
It works for most people, and that's what was actually the goal.
Yea how about just buy the best one, which is maybe not problem at all
That moment when he learns that cables and connectors are not the same thing lol
USB C specifies both, what’s your point?
@@blablabla7796 There's a great video that answers your question. It's this one: The one you just watched.
@@Heizenberg32 Skunk Beef had Johnny Harris make the video? Because I was asking what that guy’s point is with regards to this video?
@@blablabla7796 cables are the internals/wires, connectors are the thing that plugs in or is plugged into. Both have their own standards
@@TheNpcNoob Go ahead and look for: “Universal Serial Bus Type-C Cable and Connector Specification
Release 2.0 August 2019”
USB C specifies both cable and connectors. You’re mistakenly thinking that USB C is only the connector and USB2, USB3, USB PD are the cables. USB C is the connector and cable specifications, USB2,3,PD is the technology and protocol which are separate specifications.
I want to do a Johnny Harris Parody so bad 😆 🤣
Do itt
just DO IT
ok?
What is stopping you?
@@bubu_please thats the reason he made that video bro
You could technically still use only one cable you just need one that works for everything you do
The different functions are fine, they just need to be labeled
That's not a USB-C problem, that's a vendor problem.
Honestly I'm just glad we have a cord that doesn't break after a few months now. I've literally never had a usb-c stop working before, and that alone makes it worth the confusion
I still run into it for the most part, outside of dumb luck a few times
Ah, **USB-C cables**-what an *absolute joke* of a standard in the world of technology! You know, the "one cable to rule them all," they said. One reversible, universally compatible, super-fast solution for every device under the sun. *Yeah, right.* Let me tell you what **really** happens.
On paper, the USB-C **A-side** of the connector (you know, the one on the charger or the computer) is great. Rock-solid, reliable, fails approximately **zero** percent of the time. But that’s only **half** the story, folks, because the **C-side**-the part that connects to your device-fails at a rate that can only be described as nothing short of catastrophic. You want reliability? You get the *opposite*.
We’re not talking about months of use here. Oh no. These cables have a **half-life** measured in **weeks,** not months. *Weeks.* Some fail **day one**, and by week three or four, nearly all are heading to the tech graveyard. And it's not a subtle failure where you see signs of wear and tear-no, these things just stop working. Power transfer? Forget about it. Data transfer? As if!
Oh, and here’s the kicker: they don’t just die on their own quietly in the night. No, these cables have a way of taking your devices with them. After plugging and unplugging the connector a dozen times, the port on your device starts acting up. That pristine USB-C port on your phone or laptop? It’s basically getting ruined by this constant stream of dying cables. Soon, nothing fits properly. Your once-new port feels like it's been attacked by a swarm of defective connectors that wore it out in record time. Is this some hidden conspiracy to make us buy more devices? I wouldn't even be surprised.
And don’t tell me this is some kind of *isolated* experience. **Everyone** I know who uses USB-C has this exact same story. It's hard to believe that this isn't universally acknowledged! It's the great silent malfunction of the modern era. We all go on pretending USB-C is great, when in reality, this thing is failing nearly **100 percent** of the time within a matter of days or weeks!
So here's my question: **Why are we not talking about this?!** Why isn't this a top-tier tech scandal that gets splashed across headlines every day? Are we seriously just accepting that our cables will die within a month-if we’re lucky-and then possibly wreck our ports, too?
Is it just me? Am I the only one plagued by a landfill's worth of USB-C cables that quit before the month is out? Or has this been your experience too? Tell me you haven’t faced this disaster every time you tried to charge your phone, transfer data, or use literally any device that now relies on this **inherently flawed standard**! Let's hear it! Let's get some acknowledgment that this is *the* worst standard to become so widespread in modern tech history!
@@rcstann Dont buy shitty products, i have an cheap oneplus phone and the usb-c port and cable have worked perfectly for like 3 years. At this point i always had problems with the mini usb's, its so much better. But ngl the oneplus cables are the best ones out there in my opinion, they are so solid.
Atleast we can all agree it's better than lightning
no it’s not. As a physical form factor, it’s even with lighting. I would even say lighting is probably more robust. As a connection standard, it’s worse because there is no standard anymore. Lighting is just held back because Apple refuses to put USB3 speed lighting on their phone when it clearly is capable of it.
Lightening was incredible rugged as a connection since there were no exposed pins to get bent or caked with accidental sand grains at the beach. Worst typically that happens is it gets wet, sends you a message about the moisture on the iPhone, and then you just wait for it to evaporate and use as usual.
Lightning is smaller and was the first cable that could be used in either direction. It was revolutionary. When you’re making products, having a connector that takes up less space on a board is huge. Lightning cables also seem to last forever.
Oh, and Apple also helped develop the USB C standard.
I don’t know… I quite like the lightning cable. Hesitating to upgrade my phone because of the new connector.
My 14 pro max has a lightning cable THANK GOD.., i hate those usb c cables…. Nothing i have uses it.
It's still reversible tho, I'll never not be impressed that we made it that far
That also comes with an issue, if you disconnect an USB-C that's charging a device with a lot of juice, you could accidentally twist it a bit and fry the port.
Is not common, specially if you pull it straight, but working repairing smartphones I've seen it a few times, altho' usually the cable burns first.
I have several products with USB-C that don’t function unless the cable terminates in USB-A.
If only we could do the same for showers...
I do miss flipping the cable three times to get it right.
@@AJGress You want reversible showers?
How does that work, it cleans then makes you filthy again?
Yeah man. They also sell tvs in different sizes, internet plans at different speeds, and sometimes they even sell the same foods made with different ingredients. It’s absolute anarchy out here.
So we should have 20 unique cables attached to our devices where just one Universal (USB) cable for all would have made more sense? The resources on the planet are finite, yet we have this brazen attitude towards creating useless junk for the sake of scamming people into giving their money away, let alone just trying to make our lives more practical and simpler.
Bro, you could easily make the same argument for USB or HDMI cables, it's just the nature of the beast. You are going to have variation to satisfy different costs.
Yeah literally
Yeah, and the point was the sol'n succumbs to the same problem. The problem is the lack of standards. This beast isn't natural. It's mans' idiocy: artificial stupidity.
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Usb-C was supposed to be the chosen one, Anakin! You were supposed to unite as under one standard, uniform connectivity cable, but all you did was make it more confusing!
Tech companies shouldnt be forced to follow the uniform, they should WANT to. But when one company takes the first step to making their USB-C unique, everybody wants to, making it all one big mess.
"This logical argument does not contain free comments on my purposefully ignorant take on relatable tech that most people dont understand. You are blocked."
Next idea: we add printed symbols on each usb- c so we understand what it's used for .
They packets are usually labelled
@@josepharoh7958 Doesn't help when I'm grabbing one out of the drawer. Unless we'te supposed to store our cables back in the original packaging?
the better ones are labeled
You can´t simply make the same cable for everything. The fact that we have the same connector format is already a miracle. It makes no sense to produce a cable that can move 4K video in real time for something like a phone, where you will be using it for charging the battery and, sometimes, for transfering a few GB of data.
I think that we are on the correct path.
ikr...
Isn't its a standard to have data transfer charging cable for mobiles?😅😅
There are still too many standards. Should be 3: charging, data+charging, video+data+charging.
Also they should be immediately identifiable visually via unified color scheme (on the metal connectors).
@@tapabrataghatak7963the higher data transfer cables must be shorter and are thichker
Preach brother
Went from having 5 different cables to having 5 different cables but they all look the same
i agree. but i'm also in the "don't let perfect be the enemy of better" camp. 😂
It's not better if you buy a cable and it won't charge your device. It used to be that if a cable fit, it worked. Not sure who's behind usb connectors, but they have failed miserably.
Exactly. Wasn't it the same with the first UTP cables? They were uniform, but you had Crossed over and straight-through. Most home networks nowadays just use straight UTP connections. No need to figure out whether that HUB needs a crossed over connection anymore. They just standardized it. But dag-nabbit it took a while.
Just because technology isn't completely "there" yet. Doesn't mean it's not the solution to a serious problem (in this case e-waste).
The no data transfer cable is increasingly necessary in public spaces where apparently people can convert public USB ports to flash drives without being stopped.
can't the people doing that also switch out the cable? Also most phones will ask if you trust the device you're connected too now, although I can see less experienced users just clicking through that.
@@Slackow That's why they said no-data-transfer cables have their use case.
@@brauljo yeah I was thinking about a situation where the cable is already there for you and then I realized that that's not how places do it. Makes more sense to me now
@Slackow , I'm thinking of an airport, hotel (where obviously no one should be watching), and bars/restaurants. More and more public spaces are offering the opportunity charge your device, and it is possible for a programmer to tell a device that it already has permission to download or upload everything and anything. Considering how much of our personal and financial lives are auto-saved on these fucking phones, imagine the horror while on vacation to find out your profile was cloned and sent into the ether-web.
Hell, I remember a decade ago reading a warning from a White-hat Hacker (the good guys) who traveled through China to get to a conference in Japan. He ran a sweep of his computer and found that the CCP had automatically downloaded a shit ton of Spyware just from using airport Wi-Fi.
@@Crazt I mean there are exploits but most modern devices will ask if you trust the device you're connected to, the device you plug into can't override that prompt unless you mindlessly say "yes"
Everything you said is not related to "usb-c", its related to the USB Version (3.0, 3.1, and such). Once you specify the correct version, the power and data bandwidth should be there to meet the standard requirements :)
What did he say that wasn’t true?
@@LimaHotel807 He sort of related usc-c connector (which is just the physical interface) to the market of cables that only charge, have low speeds, etc.. which is a real problem but not related to the "shape of the plug" itself ^^
this comment is the best answer
I thought so too. USB-C is not the cable. I was confused. Like is there a usbc port that doesnt charge or is only for the monitor? Why blame the port for the wrong cable? You wanna go back to different ports and sockets for the keyboard, mouse, monitor, printer, audio, storage, and power?
Current capacity is separate from USB version, too. 3A or 5A max is impossible to tell.
And don't forget that so many USB-C devices continue to use proprietary technology for charging. On phones you'll often need the original OEM power adapter for higher charging speeds because they decided to make something themselves instead of just using USB-PD. This IMO is a huge issue and one that somehow needs to be addressed.
It's an improvement. Now it's only 1 connector, but still all the other caveats.
Exactly
You’d think a guy who calls himself a journalist would understand this😂
everytime i see something about USB-C i'm ready to defend the connector as it's never wallowed out on me. as a 2000s kid i'm just happy that connectors stay fixed now. No elastic bands no more.
Really depends on the quality of the cable and connector. I've had two phones fail from connectors failing, and multiple cables failing whether they be expensive or cheap. Yes, that includes using the cables that came with the device.
Honestly had no idea about the different download speeds and such! I always wondered why I had issues with charging/transferring on some cords, though! Thanks for sharing!
Basically if they deisnged every cable to do every function it would be expensive and bulky.
My cable capable of doing 100watts is a THICK boy. Almost as thick as my laptop charger.
I got it to charge my phone so its more durable.
The power cable should be pretty obvious, but the data less so. Basically if you want max speeds or fast charging, its going to cost you.
If you get something cheap, its going to do all of it mediocrely.
@RebirthOfLeGenD what's the more expensive option that's recommended by you?
I've sold a few things to people who were like it doesn't work or connect and I had to educate them on how not all cables are equal
This is why you invest in a good pair of USB-C cables.
Of course no one looks at this. A quality cable will work for pretty much any device as long as you leave Apple alone.
buy quality “expensive” and never buy shitty gas station $5 cables
@@Geopirate3 The Apple thing is easy. Just don't buy iPhones because they aren't good anyway. Use anything Apple but avoid iPhones and any Lightning accessories.
This is true i bought a $35 usb c cable and use it for everything
DEFINE GOOD (here)
1. EU rules on USB-C only encompasses charging, which they did (every USB-C cable regardless of whatever else it does, is also a charging cable).
2. If you had to buy a $100 certified Thunderbolt cable just to charge your phones you'd be more pissed.
Now imagine if you need a longer charging cable because the outlet isn't exactly near your sofa or something. I use a 3m (~9ft) charging cable every day. Theoretically, I might be able to buy a fully-spec'd cable of that length for €300,- in reality, those cables don't exactly exist.
But clear symbols on the cable telling you the specs really WOULD be nice.
@@TheFeldhamster Yes, make Thunderbolt cables have a marking like a bolt symbol with version number etc. and also create some symbol for power delivery with the different power levels. Those with the charge-only cables would cover almost all scenarios already.
"Check it out. You no longer have to worry if you put in the plug facing right."
"Cool, what else does it do?"
". . . . what do you mean what else?"
Great job usb-c is on par with composite cables.
For micro USB the USB badge always goes too the front
The sheer frustration here. Felt this.
"You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them!"
I love star wars
USB C has the high ground
I wanted to say that
Obi wan: "You were supposed to destroy the multiple cables, not join them!"
USB-C: "I HATE YOU!"
At least things are marginally better since everything fits.
If you want peace of mind, outfit everything with the best cables and you won’t need to think about it again.
The high end cables are expensive. There is no reason to charge your phone with an expensive cable that can do 40gbs data transfers.
@@stephandelaat then use the one that only charges your phone but without data transfer .
@@ikscdmdegi6954 yep, that is exactly what I was implying
actually this made it easier for me. I paid a little extra for data and power cables years ago, they still working like champs and I never have to figure out which is which. I did get one video cable but in a different color and shorter.
@@stephandelaat It depends, I got a thunderbolt cable for relatively cheap. And then I got two more cables just for loading
There is one major improvement with usb-c over micro USB and that simply is the end of the cord that plugs into things doesn't break or bend out of position as easily. I found so many of the micro USB cables to bend out of position so often that it gets so frustrating that I actually have to hold my phone or device in a specific way or hold the end of the cable that plugs into it in a specific way to make sure it actually charges but that doesn't usually happen ever with USB c. But I will point out that yes it's frustrating that there are some things that don't quite work out like well everything you pointed out
Different devices require different amp power, some can be used for USB transfer for a reason: usb-c is small, need specific tech for it to work. I'm just theorizing but I think the change is great
We all understand those whys, but the original intent was for that not to be true.
That's what something being a "standard" means. Everybody using the same protocol.
There should be a standardized colour system similar to resistor measurements
we won't get it because consumers buying the wrong things is a huge industry itself.
@@ashchbkv6965 true
@@Coms7274 they're actually kinda standardized, even trough not with color symbol (anymore), on reputable manufacturers for USB-C, you easily identify what protocol it's support, like lighting symbols or USB40 for thunderbolt 3/USB 4.0, Displayport logo next to USB to signify that the cable support DisplayPort Alt modeetc, it's not quite as easy like color coded transistor, but it's works
@@pingtime you can't tell on the vast majority of these cables and would need professional testing equipment to know
@@deswill2737 that's why I also mentioned "reputable manufacturers" there
I'm fine with this. More often than not the spec information is on the product page. Only get the cables that you NEED and that should only be a couple.
Oh yeah once it's out of the packaging, good luck trying to know what is what.
@@Coz131 put a label on it?
@@ianr2002 The manufacturer can do the labelling. It's like electrical cable, they get labelled correctly.
They are also insanely temperamental
This guy loves getting all agitated
Dumb people don’t get him. His fault?
@@FranchiseSIX5 butt hurt?
@@FranchiseSIX5 no one's dumb but him for getting this mad, it's been like this for damn near 20 years
i'm just glad my computer mouse, phone, and headphones all can use the same charger tbh
Johnny: we need a standard!
USB: Don’t worry mate, way ahead of you.
I'm so glad you said it Johnny ,I thought I was the only one
Thank you for this PSA. I didn’t realize some do video and some don’t. Answered a frustrating issue I’ve been having for over a year
Nintendo: *whistling innocently*
Ikr?
"Haha what joycon drift? Your lawsuits mean nothing"
I mean this is exactly what they said it was going to do. Before USBC we had like 19 different form factors and all of these in all of those form factors, now we have one form factor with a shitload of variations instead of 19 with a shitload of variations it's still better. Now yes it would be amazing if the people who were actually creating these cables were properly labeling them with either the correct color code or the correct notation so that you could tell what your tables did at a glance. That part of the standardization has definitely not happened. And it would be nice if the USB standardization group actually had any power to fix that but they don't because it is such a big standard. It's what comes with something being as important as USB has become. Because as much as people might want to bitch about there being tons of different types of USB cables we also need all of those different types. Pretty much all of them serve a purpose and if we didn't have them people would create types of cables that aren't USBC to fill those purposes and we would be back exactly where we were. Life sucks.
What are these 19 different form factors of a USB plug? The only ones I'm aware of besides USB-C are A (which everything uses), B (which is basically only used by printers), Mini (which nothing uses anymore), and Micro (which used to be standard until USB-C decided to replace it for no particular reason). And yes, there are 3.0 versions of A, B, and Micro, but they're all backwards compatible with the previous versions.
The idea that USB-C needed to be created in order to reduce the number of standards associated with USB is both idiotic and factually incorrect. There are still tons of devices in use that use the other connection types. Creating a new connector increments the total number of connector types by one. It doesn't eliminate any of them.
@@rars0n My iPad cable can charge my phone, MacBook, vape, headphones, speakers, and power bank. Same goes for my phone cable or MacBook cable, and so on. It’s not perfect, and not all cables charge every device as fast as the original or transfer data at the same speed, but hey, it’s still a thousand times better knowing one cable works with all my devices in a pinch instead of having to carry 4-5 different ones around.
@@methoxiivape 🤢🤢🤮🤮
@@methoxii You're literally just stating "All of my devices have the same port." Congratulations. For those of us that still have devices with other ports on them (my PS4 controllers, for instance), USB-C just means that now I have to have yet another cable sitting around to charge my phone. Except it's not just one cable, it's several because USB-C cables are flakey pieces of shit that stop working properly if you look at them wrong.
Again, we're talking about USB here. It's not some proprietary connection that is different on every single device, it's literally just Mini or Micro that devices previously used. Two different connectors, one of which is far more common than the other. I have no idea why people are pretending that this was so problematic.
@@rars0nare you saying micro or mini usb connectors are far more common because if so I thought those were almost entirely phased out.
“One cable to rule them all!”😂