Subbed within 30 seconds of the start, TH-cam needs more guards content, and i was nodding along everything you had to say about the trades and the future of the organization, i think we're in a great spot
@@johnbontea1353 what has Travis done to make you not believe in him? I went to see him play in lake county and he was 2-4 with a HR, and a crazy play at second base. He looked like the best player on the field
Needed to go is a wild take for one of our best hitters last season and our best defender. It's more the fact that it seems like we got barely anything back than we let them go.
I loved naylor and gimenez but in the postseason they swung at pitches that weren't even close and naylor was getting too heavy and was struggling at the plate the last half of the year , and gimenez was struggling for the last 2 years im gonna miss them but it was the right thing to do
93 year old Larry and Paul Dolan aren't making roster decisions. They set a salary budget but Antonetti and Chernoff are the ones orchestrating trades and deals. It can't even be said that Paul pushed the Naylor trade for budget reasons as he's going to make about just as much as Santana this season
Yeah we get all of that. But those of us who have been fans since before the Dolans bought the team know that the problem with this trade is that they will never go all in for a few years to try and win a World Series. Its always doing just enough to stay competitive in the division, but not being willing to go all in for a 2-3 years to win it all. Those of us have been around a while are tired of it and tired of being told "its achtually a good trade, you just don't get it." No, we do. We just know ownership could do more to win a World Series and they won't.
I think they would if the fans actually showed up at the games. It's a tall order to ask any owner to take a guaranteed loss. One thing we've seen for certain the past 20 years is that the fans show up for the Browns and ignore the Tribe....no matter what.
100%, I am tired of these billionares cyring poverty and not spending on this team. I think we have one of the nest FO in baseball. If they had another $50 - $60 million to spend we could win a WS.
Completely agree about Naylor swinging for the fences at every at bat, he was frustrating to watch at times. It's not just his shape, but also his injuries that are stacking up. He's projecting to be a player who is out of a job and into the minors as he gets to the other side of age 30. I don't think 2025 will be Cleveland's year as they played with house money in 2024, but they will compete. I see the team moving toward that possibility and hopefully they can pull it off before Ramirez is gone.
On the pitching front, the acquisition of Ortiz from Pittsburgh intrigues me. He seems to have excellent stuff even though he hasn't quite established himself yet. It seems that he only needs a little tweaking to become a legit starter and the Guardians are very good at getting the most out of pitchers. Along with the acquisition of Slade Cecconi in the Naylor trade, they should have enough warm bodies now to fill out the rotation barring any significant injuries. You're right about the team needing another outfielder but I'm not sure they will make that move. We'll see.
Love this content, man. From someone who used to be involved in sport’s writing before I got married, maybe you and the guys would do best working under one umbrella? I don’t know, just a thought. Also, I love your analysis and I think adding some stats behind a few thoughts would go a long way to making a point stick! Keep up the awesome work, man!
I agree the Guards are trying to build a team to beat the Evil Twins, namely NYY and ultimately, the Dodgers. In order to do that, they have to trade players like Gimenez and Naylor. They have to plan on their prospects playing great ball, and being selective hitters who get on base.
My first reactions to the trades were disappointing but this video helped me make sense of them. Last year's results were pretty unexpected, hoping the moves and development this off-season will provide another exciting summer of indians baseball
Naylor gained so much weight, he must of went 280-290. He swung at every bad pitch imaginable. He ate his way out of Cleveland. I read that the Indians had no takers because of his weight. Jimenez offense was on downward slope. Manzardo is the heir apparent at first, so bring in Santana for a year. Second base will be between Juan Brito and Arias. Either one will put up some offense for a team that needs more run production. Big Christmas will get his opportunity to contribute, and he will. Lane Thomas?? And Ortiz from the Pirates is a stud. Don't forget about the pitchers they picked up. Tribe has a sense on how to make no names become impactful on the pitching side. One thing I wish for is a good hitting coach.
This trade was the definition of buy low sell high 👌🏼 I loved Naylor as well but after watching him the second half and playoffs of last year I’m not sorry to see him go
The best pitching farm? They were down to having their starters put in three innings in the playoffs. Bibee was the only above average starter throughout the season last year.
When it comes to the Gimenez and Naylor trades. They make sense and arguably they were the right moves. Gimenez couldn't hit water in the playoffs with any type of success. Also while we could've afforded his salary this year. A guy hitting .240 if not worse at perts during the season. And developing questionable swinging out of the zone tendencies hurt him. As for Josh we had this plan in the works since we traded for Manzardo at the 23 deadline. Which people whined about because Civale was our ace. Which he was just healthy and benefitted from a great defense. He wasn't the same pitcher in Tampa. Hope Josh can get it right with the D Backs
Buddy, you’re trying to see the bright side in a city that doesn’t pay the electric bill. This team being “competitive” is cool for two years, maybe three… but when you’re celebrating scraps while other organizations are feasting, it’s not fun.
It would take a miracle for the Guardians to win a World Series - if they couldn’t do it in the mid to late 90s with the talent (pitching and hitting) they had how will it ever happen?
Naylor had a hard time in the playoffs putting the ball in play. Plus he could have been in a lot better shape, I think most of us would put forth a better effort all around if we were earning the type of salary’s the pros make.
I like both trades. I think Ortiz can be a stud & Cecconi has some serious potential. We've got Brito to take over second base. Need some power in right field. I also like bringing Carlos back for trip number 3 with the team. He deserves the chance to retire in Cleveland & he finally got the Gold Glove he should have won before now. Go "Tribe" .. I will never call them the Guardians.
Naylor looks like he's eating himself out of baseball, and Giminez severely regressed at the plate. Santana should be either a wash or an upgrade, given his far better defense and plate discipline, and Brito could well be an upgrade as well if he proves himself a competent defender. And we did get a couple of good arms in return and a useful couple of prospects. So I really agree with both of those trades. Now they just need to get an outfield bat and another quality starter.
Look my opinion is Travis Banza is ready to play day 1 so that explains the Andres Gimenez trade (Juan Britto shifts to a ulitly role). I don't think the Naylor completely but I'd prefer Clevland to trade Naylor Mckenzie and dip into the farm for someone like Brain Woo. I think the problem with the Bullpen in the postseason was they were overused and wore themselves out But as a Tigers fan the Al Central should be interesting. I'm gonna go out a limb and say Kannas City wins the Division because they have what's going to be IMO a top 5 rotation in all of baseball but Detroit and Clevland should challenge for a WC spot.
Agree about Naylor, although clubhouse leader ship is of value as well. Gimenez is too good an athlete to give up on at his age. Look at Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel.. Both became productivve offensively at about Gimenez' age.
Most of what you say is true. I don’t know how old you are and if you’ve been following since 1999 (when the Dolans bought the team). They bought the team for $320 mill and had $321 mill in the bank. It’s like buying a Ferrari but not having gas money. When you get close, you should add. The fanbase would be fine with a few down years if they went for the gusto when the team makes it to the ALCS. They did it in 2017 with Edwin and most fans would do that over again. It’s just frustrating to be above average for 25 years but never break through. Also, Kwan played his way out of Cleveland before last season even started. (And the Dolans get zero credit for Jose taking a 40% discount to stay here).
I’m a newly converted Guardians fan and I am loving watching them so far and have grown to love a lot of their players. Have collected so many Guardians cards the last few months lol
How much are the Dolans paying you to spread this bull shit on the internet . This is a farm team that got lucky . As long as the Dolans own this team they will never . WIN a WORLD SERIES ! All the exuses they have for getting rid of players Bauer , has a temper Cleavenger broke curfew, What is this a high school team? No just away of not paying people what their worth . Groom them and sell them that is what the Dolans are about . Take the Dolans and Haslem and make them give us our tax money they wasted on their business back to us.
A decade of success is getting lucky? What a dumb comment, I don't even like the Dolans and how cheap there. But you can't act like they don't do a good job running the organization.
Trading a broken kluber into clase, broken clevinger into Naylor, hedges and others, bringing in lane Thomas, getting Gimenez and Rosario for Lindor who would have left anyways, they make good moves dude
Go bandwagon jump then. You wanted to keep Bauer? The guy beat the hell out of a chick and is out of the league for life. Cleavinger has sucked ever since we dealt him. We got multiple major leaguers out of that deal. Man, you really know nothing. Go make some money and buy a team. Then we can see your "wisdom" in its full glory.
We are going to miss the Super Naylor Bros. Me and my bro were ready for it again. Even bought custom hats for it. It's nice on paper but still horsecrap imo
I love the management of the Indians (no mistake) but I despise the trade ESPECIALLY Eli Morgan. Past history has shown their without par expertise but my cringing goes back to Trader Lane . RiP Rocky
Winning the pennant this year? Wtf are you smoking? While I agree with getting rid of Gimenez, Naylor was a major source of power in our lineup. Both were horrendous in the playoffs and provided no production. But if no one is brought in to replace the production they provided during the regular season, we’ll be looking at a 3rd-4th place in the division. Let’s not also forget our starting pitching was one of the worst in the majors all year long. We survived because of our bullpen. They can only be spread so thin before wearing down. I appreciate the optimism, but I think this year will be a wash. The Dolans will never go out and spend money when the team is close to a WS. That’s why most fans are fed up with them. Yeah it’s great to be competitive every year and be around 90 wins, but who really gives a shit if you never do anything in the playoffs. It’s happened too many times in the last 10-15 years.
I think your forgetting about Manzardo, Santana, Bazzana, Rocchio, and Ramirez lol, that will be brought production, especially if they either sign another bat for the outfield or if Big Christmas takes a leap
@ No, I remembered them. That is putting a lot of faith into guys who haven’t really proven themselves. I’m not doubting the potential, but pump the brakes. I don’t have faith in Rocchio, idc how well he hit in the playoffs. He didn’t hit all year and made multiple fielding errors in the playoffs. I’m just being realistic. If they want to compete this year, they need more than 2 competent starting pitchers.
You mentioned nothing about what they received in return for those two infielders. They received nothing that will help them be any more than a some what competitive team. They never go out and get what they need to win it all. You also talk about the deep farm club as far as starting pitchers go. They have no one ready to step up in the minors. Not impressed with this video
I think the moves are good. Ridiculous to pay a "no-hit, good glove" player like Jimenez like he was prime Robby Alomar. If Naylor had pushed himself away from the dinner table a little bit I would have been a big supporter. But carrying extra weight and constantly having lower body injuries shows me he won't invest in himself. When the Browns threw $200 million at a sexual deviant, the most TONE DEAF decision in sports history, I got out. As long as he's on the roster, I won't watch another second of them. The Guardians at least win and spend their money wisely. What do you mean "win NOTHING"? How many franchises would kill for a division title and ALDS win?
The problem of fans are having they’re getting nothing back when they make a trade they traded Francisco Lindor three years ago they have nobody left from that’s the problem we’re having. They’re getting nothing back from the trade. You have to get something back from them a picture with.6.06
So Naylor has gotten better as he’s gained weight. And you think that provides evidence to the contrary? 😂. The Guardians traded him away solely because Dolan is cheap and unwilling to pay his salary once his current contract is up. Period. He didn’t do it because it’s what is best for the team. It’s because it’s best for his wallet.
Gotten better???? He showed concerning statistical offensive AND defensive regression last season. After mid-April he hit ~0.230 the rest of the way. In April & May he hit 15 HR, but from June through the playoffs (5months) he only hit 16 HR. 0 HR in the playoffs w/a 0.225 BA, 0.275 SLG, & 0.531 OPS. He chased offspeed pitches down and out of the strike zone BIG TIME in Sept & Oct, looking clueless at the dish. It was obvious that he was lost at season's end, and it hurt the team BIG TIME when we needed him the most. His fattening physique and 1 year of remaining club control both contributed to his departure, but anyone with functional eyeballs who watched his statistical patterns throughout the season AND who watched him play everyday knows that he PLAYED his way out of Cleveland. I wish him all the best in Arizona, but the writing was on the wall that he wasn't coming back in 2025.
@spastikps4916 He only hit consistently well for 2-3 weeks in early-April. The latter half of April was bad. Even in May when he hit 8 HR he only batted 0.186. All or nothing, and he couldn't even hit bombs with any kind of regularity in the months that followed. His weight may or may not have increased over the course of 2024. That's debatable, but if he did add weight it didn't appear to be by leaps and bounds. However, his weight has definitely increased substantially over the past few seasons, and as he continues to age it will only make it harder for him to find the same success as in prior seasons. His very noticeable 2024 regression seems to be proof of that. Trading him is not the massive loss that a bunch of fans are making it out to be, unless Naylor finds tremendous success in AZ. I don't see that happening unless he eats better / trains harder to bring his weight down heading into 2025. I know I'd be doing so to increase my chances of a potentially big contract somewhere at season's end.
naylor is garbage..why do u have 19 youtube channels that all have low numbers ?? wouldnt it make more sense to grow your main chanel then build other channels ?? lol like what...
I love josh Naylor but I’ve seen him swing at pitches in my living room 😂
Subbed within 30 seconds of the start, TH-cam needs more guards content, and i was nodding along everything you had to say about the trades and the future of the organization, i think we're in a great spot
Yep! Sucks how the mlb operates, they make it impossible for small market teams, but the guards have been doing the best they can
Great takes. Naylor and Gimenez needed to go. Watching them try to make contact in the playoffs was painful to watch
Even jose ramirez wasn't great. Not everyone can produce every postseason. I dont believe in bazanna.
@@johnbontea1353 what has Travis done to make you not believe in him? I went to see him play in lake county and he was 2-4 with a HR, and a crazy play at second base. He looked like the best player on the field
Needed to go is a wild take for one of our best hitters last season and our best defender. It's more the fact that it seems like we got barely anything back than we let them go.
Santana was also a gold glove winner. Would be the perfect person to teach Manzardo to be an elite 1st baseman.
I loved naylor and gimenez but in the postseason they swung at pitches that weren't even close and naylor was getting too heavy and was struggling at the plate the last half of the year , and gimenez was struggling for the last 2 years im gonna miss them but it was the right thing to do
93 year old Larry and Paul Dolan aren't making roster decisions. They set a salary budget but Antonetti and Chernoff are the ones orchestrating trades and deals.
It can't even be said that Paul pushed the Naylor trade for budget reasons as he's going to make about just as much as Santana this season
Yeah we get all of that. But those of us who have been fans since before the Dolans bought the team know that the problem with this trade is that they will never go all in for a few years to try and win a World Series. Its always doing just enough to stay competitive in the division, but not being willing to go all in for a 2-3 years to win it all. Those of us have been around a while are tired of it and tired of being told "its achtually a good trade, you just don't get it."
No, we do. We just know ownership could do more to win a World Series and they won't.
I think they would if the fans actually showed up at the games. It's a tall order to ask any owner to take a guaranteed loss. One thing we've seen for certain the past 20 years is that the fans show up for the Browns and ignore the Tribe....no matter what.
100%, I am tired of these billionares cyring poverty and not spending on this team. I think we have one of the nest FO in baseball. If they had another $50 - $60 million to spend we could win a WS.
Completely agree about Naylor swinging for the fences at every at bat, he was frustrating to watch at times. It's not just his shape, but also his injuries that are stacking up. He's projecting to be a player who is out of a job and into the minors as he gets to the other side of age 30. I don't think 2025 will be Cleveland's year as they played with house money in 2024, but they will compete. I see the team moving toward that possibility and hopefully they can pull it off before Ramirez is gone.
Great Content... You had me at THE LAND!
On the pitching front, the acquisition of Ortiz from Pittsburgh intrigues me. He seems to have excellent stuff even though he hasn't quite established himself yet. It seems that he only needs a little tweaking to become a legit starter and the Guardians are very good at getting the most out of pitchers. Along with the acquisition of Slade Cecconi in the Naylor trade, they should have enough warm bodies now to fill out the rotation barring any significant injuries. You're right about the team needing another outfielder but I'm not sure they will make that move. We'll see.
Love this content, man. From someone who used to be involved in sport’s writing before I got married, maybe you and the guys would do best working under one umbrella? I don’t know, just a thought.
Also, I love your analysis and I think adding some stats behind a few thoughts would go a long way to making a point stick!
Keep up the awesome work, man!
I agree the Guards are trying to build a team to beat the Evil Twins, namely NYY and ultimately, the Dodgers. In order to do that, they have to trade players like Gimenez and Naylor. They have to plan on their prospects playing great ball, and being selective hitters who get on base.
My first reactions to the trades were disappointing but this video helped me make sense of them. Last year's results were pretty unexpected, hoping the moves and development this off-season will provide another exciting summer of indians baseball
Naylor gained so much weight, he must of went 280-290. He swung at every bad pitch imaginable. He ate his way out of Cleveland. I read that the Indians had no takers because of his weight. Jimenez offense was on downward slope. Manzardo is the heir apparent at first, so bring in Santana for a year. Second base will be between Juan Brito and Arias. Either one will put up some offense for a team that needs more run production. Big Christmas will get his opportunity to contribute, and he will. Lane Thomas?? And Ortiz from the Pirates is a stud. Don't forget about the pitchers they picked up. Tribe has a sense on how to make no names become impactful on the pitching side. One thing I wish for is a good hitting coach.
Arias will put up run production? Arias is a routinely .220 hitter. Way worse than Gimenez
Santana is not much of a drop off from Naylor for about the same money so they essentially got a free pitcher out of the deal
Keep telling yourself these lies. A 38 yr old santana come on now
@johnbontea1353 he'll be the back up first baseman anyway
@@jonathonbloomfield9912 12 million dollars for 12 homers
This trade was the definition of buy low sell high 👌🏼 I loved Naylor as well but after watching him the second half and playoffs of last year I’m not sorry to see him go
Great vid. Subscribed.
Very excited for this team. I know Josh was good, but he sold so much in the playoffs
This vid was fire🔥
Thank you, love the profile pic 😂
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The best pitching farm? They were down to having their starters put in three innings in the playoffs. Bibee was the only above average starter throughout the season last year.
Injuries man
@@TheLand_HQ no offense but are u the kids owners ????
When it comes to the Gimenez and Naylor trades. They make sense and arguably they were the right moves. Gimenez couldn't hit water in the playoffs with any type of success. Also while we could've afforded his salary this year. A guy hitting .240 if not worse at perts during the season. And developing questionable swinging out of the zone tendencies hurt him. As for Josh we had this plan in the works since we traded for Manzardo at the 23 deadline. Which people whined about because Civale was our ace. Which he was just healthy and benefitted from a great defense. He wasn't the same pitcher in Tampa. Hope Josh can get it right with the D Backs
Dolans are excessively cheap. They do not care about winning a championship. They may not even win the division next season
80 wins!!
65-72 Let’s look Back
@@mrcommonsense9074 I'm game!!! Lol, I was being generous with 80..
Buddy, you’re trying to see the bright side in a city that doesn’t pay the electric bill. This team being “competitive” is cool for two years, maybe three… but when you’re celebrating scraps while other organizations are feasting, it’s not fun.
… you were a win away from the NFC championship game? lol that is feasting. It’s unreal to hear the stupidity of folks like yourself.
I wanted Naylor gone last year at trade deadline cause I knew his value would drop the second half and playoffs.
It would take a miracle for the Guardians to win a World Series - if they couldn’t do it in the mid to late 90s with the talent (pitching and hitting) they had how will it ever happen?
I'm gonna miss Naylor 😢but I definitely understand and respect the moves can't wait to see how this all pays off
Naylor had a hard time in the playoffs putting the ball in play. Plus he could have been in a lot better shape, I think most of us would put forth a better effort all around if we were earning the type of salary’s the pros make.
I like both trades. I think Ortiz can be a stud & Cecconi has some serious potential. We've got Brito to take over second base. Need some power in right field. I also like bringing Carlos back for trip number 3 with the team. He deserves the chance to retire in Cleveland & he finally got the Gold Glove he should have won before now. Go "Tribe" .. I will never call them the Guardians.
Naylor looks like he's eating himself out of baseball, and Giminez severely regressed at the plate. Santana should be either a wash or an upgrade, given his far better defense and plate discipline, and Brito could well be an upgrade as well if he proves himself a competent defender. And we did get a couple of good arms in return and a useful couple of prospects. So I really agree with both of those trades. Now they just need to get an outfield bat and another quality starter.
Look my opinion is Travis Banza is ready to play day 1 so that explains the Andres Gimenez trade (Juan Britto shifts to a ulitly role). I don't think the Naylor completely but I'd prefer Clevland to trade Naylor Mckenzie and dip into the farm for someone like Brain Woo. I think the problem with the Bullpen in the postseason was they were overused and wore themselves out
But as a Tigers fan the Al Central should be interesting. I'm gonna go out a limb and say Kannas City wins the Division because they have what's going to be IMO a top 5 rotation in all of baseball but Detroit and Clevland should challenge for a WC spot.
Agree about Naylor, although clubhouse leader ship is of value as well. Gimenez is too good an athlete to give up on at his age. Look at Ozzie Smith and Omar Vizquel.. Both became productivve offensively at about Gimenez' age.
Most of what you say is true. I don’t know how old you are and if you’ve been following since 1999 (when the Dolans bought the team). They bought the team for $320 mill and had $321 mill in the bank. It’s like buying a Ferrari but not having gas money. When you get close, you should add. The fanbase would be fine with a few down years if they went for the gusto when the team makes it to the ALCS. They did it in 2017 with Edwin and most fans would do that over again. It’s just frustrating to be above average for 25 years but never break through. Also, Kwan played his way out of Cleveland before last season even started. (And the Dolans get zero credit for Jose taking a 40% discount to stay here).
@@MassillonObie side note T-I-G, my dad grew up in Massillon and did radio announcing for telaproductions lol
@ E-R-S! We finally got a state championship last year!
Excellent analysis
Well said.
A chip in the chair in October!! Golden analysis
The Dolans don’t make trades Antonetti does
It goes through all those guys
Santana was debatingly better then naylor lats year including defence
So true
Santana is also 39
@fisherman12k24 manzardo is the long term awnser but in the short term he and Santana are going to be good
Losing Naylor is addition by subtraction. Manzardo/Santana/Noel can and I think will be way better
I’m a newly converted Guardians fan and I am loving watching them so far and have grown to love a lot of their players. Have collected so many Guardians cards the last few months lol
How much are the Dolans paying you to spread this bull shit on the internet . This is a farm team that got lucky . As long as the Dolans own this team they will never . WIN a WORLD SERIES ! All the exuses they have for getting rid of players Bauer , has a temper Cleavenger broke curfew, What is this a high school team? No just away of not paying people what their worth . Groom them and sell them that is what the Dolans are about . Take the Dolans and Haslem and make them give us our tax money they wasted on their business back to us.
A decade of success is getting lucky? What a dumb comment, I don't even like the Dolans and how cheap there. But you can't act like they don't do a good job running the organization.
Trading a broken kluber into clase, broken clevinger into Naylor, hedges and others, bringing in lane Thomas, getting Gimenez and Rosario for Lindor who would have left anyways, they make good moves dude
Go bandwagon jump then. You wanted to keep Bauer? The guy beat the hell out of a chick and is out of the league for life. Cleavinger has sucked ever since we dealt him. We got multiple major leaguers out of that deal. Man, you really know nothing. Go make some money and buy a team. Then we can see your "wisdom" in its full glory.
@@SmoothGravyproven innocent. She lied about the whole incident proven by her text messages and he actually won the counter suit for defamation.
We are going to miss the Super Naylor Bros. Me and my bro were ready for it again. Even bought custom hats for it. It's nice on paper but still horsecrap imo
I love the management of the Indians (no mistake) but I despise the trade ESPECIALLY Eli Morgan. Past history has shown their without par expertise but my cringing goes back to Trader Lane . RiP Rocky
I do agree with you
Big Christmas is the guy trust
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How 'bout those Cleveland INDIANS!
w vid
Thanks!
@@TheLand_HQ np
Winning the pennant this year? Wtf are you smoking? While I agree with getting rid of Gimenez, Naylor was a major source of power in our lineup. Both were horrendous in the playoffs and provided no production. But if no one is brought in to replace the production they provided during the regular season, we’ll be looking at a 3rd-4th place in the division. Let’s not also forget our starting pitching was one of the worst in the majors all year long. We survived because of our bullpen. They can only be spread so thin before wearing down. I appreciate the optimism, but I think this year will be a wash. The Dolans will never go out and spend money when the team is close to a WS. That’s why most fans are fed up with them. Yeah it’s great to be competitive every year and be around 90 wins, but who really gives a shit if you never do anything in the playoffs. It’s happened too many times in the last 10-15 years.
I think your forgetting about Manzardo, Santana, Bazzana, Rocchio, and Ramirez lol, that will be brought production, especially if they either sign another bat for the outfield or if Big Christmas takes a leap
@ No, I remembered them. That is putting a lot of faith into guys who haven’t really proven themselves. I’m not doubting the potential, but pump the brakes. I don’t have faith in Rocchio, idc how well he hit in the playoffs. He didn’t hit all year and made multiple fielding errors in the playoffs. I’m just being realistic. If they want to compete this year, they need more than 2 competent starting pitchers.
Wait.. Unfair?
The best run organization in baseball.
They're up there for sure, but still won't get a ring
That's more of an issue with how the mlb operates, it's not a level playing field at all
Lol. Best run farm system
@@TheLand_HQ Ya, that's my point, and it won't change.. The other three teams were NY and LA, ridiculous
@ probably not. A rigging of the 2016 WS denied them that ring. It was handed to the Cubs.
You mentioned nothing about what they received in return for those two infielders. They received nothing that will help them be any more than a some what competitive team. They never go out and get what they need to win it all. You also talk about the deep farm club as far as starting pitchers go. They have no one ready to step up in the minors.
Not impressed with this video
They traded hetmenes
You jinxed the team go back to the Indians 🤙
This team will win NOTHING...With The Dolans running things,never...Browns are another shit show..Anyone else tired of this crap?
Browns, perfectly fine with clowning them, but what have guardians done wrong? Out of all small markets they have been the most competive
I know i am. Sick of the clown shows of the Wokeyians and Browns
Jeez... The prodigious amount of hate is crazy😂😂😂
I think the moves are good. Ridiculous to pay a "no-hit, good glove" player like Jimenez like he was prime Robby Alomar. If Naylor had pushed himself away from the dinner table a little bit I would have been a big supporter. But carrying extra weight and constantly having lower body injuries shows me he won't invest in himself. When the Browns threw $200 million at a sexual deviant, the most TONE DEAF decision in sports history, I got out. As long as he's on the roster, I won't watch another second of them. The Guardians at least win and spend their money wisely. What do you mean "win NOTHING"? How many franchises would kill for a division title and ALDS win?
@ finally somebody with a brain
Arias needs to play everyday and watch
The problem of fans are having they’re getting nothing back when they make a trade they traded Francisco Lindor three years ago they have nobody left from that’s the problem we’re having. They’re getting nothing back from the trade. You have to get something back from them a picture with.6.06
So Naylor has gotten better as he’s gained weight. And you think that provides evidence to the contrary? 😂. The Guardians traded him away solely because Dolan is cheap and unwilling to pay his salary once his current contract is up. Period. He didn’t do it because it’s what is best for the team. It’s because it’s best for his wallet.
Gotten better???? He showed concerning statistical offensive AND defensive regression last season. After mid-April he hit ~0.230 the rest of the way. In April & May he hit 15 HR, but from June through the playoffs (5months) he only hit 16 HR. 0 HR in the playoffs w/a 0.225 BA, 0.275 SLG, & 0.531 OPS. He chased offspeed pitches down and out of the strike zone BIG TIME in Sept & Oct, looking clueless at the dish. It was obvious that he was lost at season's end, and it hurt the team BIG TIME when we needed him the most. His fattening physique and 1 year of remaining club control both contributed to his departure, but anyone with functional eyeballs who watched his statistical patterns throughout the season AND who watched him play everyday knows that he PLAYED his way out of Cleveland. I wish him all the best in Arizona, but the writing was on the wall that he wasn't coming back in 2025.
@@ohiobobcat3 yes, but that didn't correlate to his weight gain. He weighed the same at the beginning of the season when he was playing well.
@spastikps4916 He only hit consistently well for 2-3 weeks in early-April. The latter half of April was bad. Even in May when he hit 8 HR he only batted 0.186. All or nothing, and he couldn't even hit bombs with any kind of regularity in the months that followed.
His weight may or may not have increased over the course of 2024. That's debatable, but if he did add weight it didn't appear to be by leaps and bounds. However, his weight has definitely increased substantially over the past few seasons, and as he continues to age it will only make it harder for him to find the same success as in prior seasons. His very noticeable 2024 regression seems to be proof of that. Trading him is not the massive loss that a bunch of fans are making it out to be, unless Naylor finds tremendous success in AZ. I don't see that happening unless he eats better / trains harder to bring his weight down heading into 2025. I know I'd be doing so to increase my chances of a potentially big contract somewhere at season's end.
naylor is garbage..why do u have 19 youtube channels that all have low numbers ?? wouldnt it make more sense to grow your main chanel then build other channels ?? lol like what...