Thank you so much for this video. It cleared up some misconceptions I had, and helped me understand the different views within the realm of Islam. Jazakallah kharain shaykh
The Qur'an makes it clear that God would never punish a people who have never been shown any devine guidance. The teachings of Ishmael and Ibrahim had long been forgotten by the Arabs. However the Qur'an also raises the question of devine retribution for crimes committed by human beings. A good example is that of the pagan Arabs who used to bury alive their female infants.
@@sparephone8228 the prophet muhammed was worshipping Allah in accordance to the religion of Ibrahim hanif, before Islam. It wasn't completely forgotten there were practitioners. If you are insinuating his parents are in hell, then I'm with you on that.
This is a crazy question to ask, but even then should be done in a scholarly fashion. If you're arguing in these comments about who's in the fire from the prophet's family, you've got a screw loose and you need to check yourself. It's disrespectful to utter such filth.
@@punjabipendu This may be and I'm not saying Muhammad saws parents are in hell but just technically even if Allah would say they are in hell then that's not disrespectful or anything because just because you are the parent of a prophet that doesn't mean you're free from mistakes or anything that's just what I'm saying.
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.” Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”
It's not insulting if the evidence is there. Scholars have different views regarding this matter as for those who say his parents are in the hellfire, they use evidence as well.
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj the thing is the lack of adab when speaking about this topic. The Prophet (s) cried profoundly at the grave of his mother and just as Dr. Shadee said, if he had that approach to Ikrimah, what about those that mention it and affirm it as if it was nothing? And same applies to Abu Talib.
@@thesun5323 the israelites go astray even after a prophet reaches them. i think we can safely guess it would be a similar case for the various ancient indigenous communities as well.
Say, “Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.” ~ Qur’an 6:164
There were people in makkah that were upon hanafiyyah ( deen of ibrahim) like zayd ibn amr. When Zaid ibn Amr went to Jews and Christians to inquire about true religion, He was not satisfied and prayed to Allah by saying “O Allah! I make You my Witness that I am on the religion of Abraham.” [Sahih al-Bukhari 3827] Narrated ‘Abdullah Ibn ‘Umar (رضي الله عنه): The Prophet (ﷺ) met Zayd Ibn ‘Amr Ibn Nufail in the bottom of (the valley of) Baldah before any Wahy (Divine Inspiration) came to the Prophet (ﷺ). A meal was presented to the Prophet (ﷺ) but he refused to eat from it. (Then it was presented to Zayd) who said, “I do not eat anything which you slaughter in the name of your stone idols. I eat none but those things on which Allah’s Name has been mentioned at the time of slaughtering.” [Sahih al-Bukhari 3826]
Thanks for this explanation. I also thought this. Islam was not there in that time. Then why they ended up in Jahannam? Also, I don’t understand why people are so obsessed about whose going Jannat and Jahannam. Man think about your Jannat. You don’t need to think about others. People are too obsessed with others life than theirs.
Some people were still on the madhab of ibrahim and all other people were following idol worships. That's why they are not from the ones who are on ahle fitra. Otherwise the prophet wouldn't have been forbidden to pray for them
Could we change the title, it seems very gut wrenching. Perhaps “fate of the Prophet’s (ﷺ) Parents” or something which wouldn’t make him ﷺ hurt when seeing it. Jazak Allahu khayran
What a thoughtful way of thinking of our Prophet (SAW). May Allah grant you the highest levels of jannah ameen. The best comment I’ve ever read on TH-cam.
@@TechSyndrome May Allah bless you and increase you in 'aafiyah and yaqin, and may He reward you and give you more than what you asked for me. Jazāk Allāhu Khayr'an for your kind words. It is disturbing how even today people of so-called "knowledge" do not treat the Prophet (ﷺ) with the respect which is demanded, this title should not even be a thing, even when defending Him ﷺ. May Allāh give us the love of the Prophet (ﷺ) and his true ta'dhīm. Please @safinasociety change this title.
I changed the title for users of DeArrow extension, which replaces clickbait titles and thumbnails with (voted on) user submissions; maybe someone can edit the thumbnail to change the text in there as well.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar Well said. Amazing comment. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). Any devout Sunni Muslim must only think good about the honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). We are nothing and nobody without the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).
@@hassanmuse5606 The biggest source is indeed our beloved Prophet ( peace be upon him) insha'Allah All will witness on the day of judgement the honour that parents of RasulAllah (peace be upon him) will get..We want and pray for our parents to go in paradise and we comment ill about the blessed parents of RasulAllah (peace be upon him) what a disgrace to even have that thought.. Our IMAAN is our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) and all that is beloved to him (peace be upon him) is beloved and respected to us..
@@ronaldoromario this is a source {It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire.} Qur'an 9:113 Sunan Ibn Majah 1572 It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said: “The Prophet (ﷺ) visited the grave of his mother and wept, causing the people around him to weep. Then he said: ‘I asked my Lord for permission to seek forgiveness for her, but He did not give me permission. Then I asked my Lord for permission to visit her grave and He gave me permission. So visit the graves, for they will remind you of death.’” Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 1572 In-book reference : Book 6, Hadith 140 English translation : Vol. 1, Book 6, Hadith 1572
@@ronaldoromario Sahih al-Bukhari 1360 Narrated Sa`id bin Al-Musaiyab from his father: When the time of the death of Abu Talib approached, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went to him and found Abu Jahl bin Hisham and `Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya bin Al-Mughira by his side. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to Abu Talib, "O uncle! Say: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, a sentence with which I shall be a witness (i.e. argue) for you before Allah. Abu Jahl and `Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya said, "O Abu Talib! Are you going to denounce the religion of `Abdul Muttalib?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kept on inviting Abu Talib to say it (i.e. 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah') while they (Abu Jahl and `Abdullah) kept on repeating their statement till Abu Talib said as his last statement that he was on the religion of `Abdul Muttalib and refused to say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' (Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "I will keep on asking Allah's forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden (by Allah) to do so." So Allah revealed (the verse) concerning him (i.e. It is not fitting for the Prophet (ﷺ) and those who believe that they should invoke (Allah) for forgiveness for pagans even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of the fire (9.113). Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 1360 In-book reference : Book 23, Hadith 113 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 2, Book 23, Hadith 442 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Say, Whoever is in error - let the Most Merciful extend for him an extension until, when they see that which they were promised - either punishment or the Hour - they will come to know who is worst in position and weaker in soldiers. ~ Qur’an 19:75
This is a matter in which there is a difference of opinion: Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.” Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
@@surendirenparthasarathy9087 you obviously didnt listen. The test is in receiving the message of islam. If anyone hasnt received the message of islam will not be tested accordint to Islamic standards. They will be tested in different ways
@@surendirenparthasarathy9087 That is one opinion and it is illogical Why do certian people get to live life however they want without being tested and then go to jannah according to you Having a test on yawm al Qiyāmah is the most logical and fair view the hadīth in musnad is clear
@FactsWithActs Or they may not be tested. The believers record will be different to the non-believers. The believer has some degree of conscious influence over his or her record because they are given guidance on how to earn the favour of Allah or perform valid acts of repentance. The non-beleiver misses out on the opportunities to influence their record because they didn't have access to Islamic guidelines. That's the trade off. And Allah then judges both fairly.
I only understand one thing from all this misconception, we must not associate anything with Allah. No one is forgiven on the day of judgment if they do shirk
The trade off is that those who dont receive the message are exposed to more spiritual risks. And they dont have the knowledge on how to positively influence their record of account with Allah. It will be upto Allah to judge individually.
Lots of opinions on this topic, good evidence on both sides, but ultimately it's our own self we have to worry about. For everyone else, we have to believe that Allah will treat them with justice in the hereafter.
If Allah (swt) revealed a whole chapter Honouring the mother of isa (as) Maryam , one of the greatest woman mentioned in the quran. Then what about the rank of the woman who bore the best of the creation to ever exist. (Saw)
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.” Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.” It says in ‘Awn al-Ma’bood: “But He did not give me permission” means: because she was a kaafirah (disbeliever) and it is not permissible to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar. Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This shows that it is not permitted to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.
This does not show anything . Visiting grave of a disbeliever is prohibited in Islam but Allah gave permission to our Prophet( peace be upon him) to visit grave of the Blessed Mother this shows she was not a disbeliever.. we are only allowed to visit grave of believer and not of disbeliever as stated in The Holy Quran (If Allah returns you ˹O Prophet˺ to a group of them and they ask to go forth with you, say, “You will not ever go forth or fight an enemy along with me. You preferred to stay behind the first time, so stay with those ˹helpless˺ who remain behind.”) (And do not ever offer ˹funeral˺ prayers for any of their dead, nor stand by their grave ˹at burial˺, for they have lost faith in Allah and His Messenger and died rebellious) The Holy Quran Chapter 9 Verse 83-84 There is no evidence that Blessed Mother of our Prophet ( peace be upon him) worshipped idol or any sort of pagan ritual so dont try to come to conclusions..
@@ronaldoromario Also my issue is not whether she is disbeliever or not , I don’t think it matters to me My issue is your urge to vindicate her when it is clearly unnecessary
@@muhammedshanushan3931 You clearly stated that She is a disbeliever by quoting Al nawawi(may Allah be pleased with him).. Good that you dont have an opinion on this but people they cross the line avoiding Adab and respect
@@muhammedshanushan3931 And there is no evidence that the parents of Our Beloved Prophet ( peace be upon him) were idol worshippers or they did any pre islamic pagan rituals there is not a single evidence.. But there are references and source indicating their Imaan.. Aftr all They are Parents of The Best of Creation ( peace be upon him).
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger, (ﷺ) as saying: I sought permission to beg forgiveness for my mother, but Allah did not grant it to me. I sought permission from Him to visit her grave, and He granted it (permission) to me. Sahih Muslim
If she were a kâfir God wouldn't allow him to visit her grave probably. The reason God didn't allow him to ask forgiveness was probably that he pbuh wasn't allowed to ask forgiveness in an intercession manner to the people other than his ummah. Like in the hadeeth about the intercession stated
@@l3ll5l you are permitted to visit the grave of your parents no matter what they were the Quran also mentions to keep a good relation with your parents even if they are disbelievers but don’t follow them in what they do I don’t know why people see that as problematic to accept that the mother of the prophet is in hell based on what she used to be and that’s an mushrika as it seems
@@Y_al_muahid I don't know about this. You are making a categorical fallacy. Either way the opinion about being a mushrikah contradicts other narrations while violating core Islamic teachings. The conclusion of them is only conjecture based upon jumped conclusions. If there can be multiple interpretations the one with the least conflict to other narrations should be prioritised. Even basic Islamic manners should teach one that those kind of accusations should be based upon certain evidences not conjectures if there is any possibility that points out one should take this route but here it isn't necessary because the dominant weight is already that they are not disbelievers. There are other possible explanations too but this should be already enough don't you think?
@@l3ll5l The prophet was denied to make dua for her due to her being died as non Muslim… Just as Allah forbade abraham from praying for his father AFTER it became clear hes father was an clear enemy of God…. U cant pray for musrikeen thts why the prophet salahu aligi wa salam was forbidden……. As for visiting graves if its ur family ofc we can. But as a rule we domt pray for mushrikeen.. Whts so complex about this issue when the Prophet salahu alihi wasallam himself cleared it ? Plus this happened to previous ambiyas as well.
@@kingmosesix432 your analogy is flawed even if we accept the father of Abraham pbuh as his biological father here the only thing making the two things similar is 1 there are parents of a prophet 2 God didn't allowed for asking forgiveness . the differences are 1 one is in his era the other is not from his pbuh ummah 2. One is allowed to visit the grave the other is not known 3. One explicitly disbelieved the other is not known 4 one had a warner from God the other had no warner stated by the Quran. Now an analogy is used when you don't know the conclusion of a matter but have a similar one that you know the conclusion of then you apply the one you know to the one you don't. But the most important thing is that when making an analogy the thing that determines the outcome must be similar if they are different the analogy becomes flawed. Here the similarities doesn't neccesates the conclusion therefore you can't use it as an analogy for this. here even most of the differences contribute more to the conclusion than the similarities. Why? Because the reason for not allowing to ask for forgiveness could be other than the conclusion like because they are not from his ummah. We have a similar case were God doesn't allow the Prophet pbuh for intercession other than his ummah not because they were disbelievers rather God limited the Prophets pbuh intercession to his ummah. And yes asking for forgiveness is an intercession. Like I stated above this way all other narrations are in harmony there is no conflict.
I cannot fathom the fact that some people insist on persuing this point. What benefit is there on such rabid insistence on something that is clearly a difference of opinion? Pause of a minute. Breathe. Ask yourself why you exert such energy on trying to force people to believe that the parents of the Best of Creation ﷺ are in the fire. What is the benefit?
To Salafis and Wahhabis it's like a pissing contest. The more they can boost their ego, the more they like delving into it. Their parents didn't love them as children and now they're taking their anger out on the rest of us
Nifāq in the hearts. They should pause and reflect, this is the blessed woman he (ﷺ) broke down crying tears for, how would he (ﷺ) feel if he (ﷺ) saw their comments and words? و الذين يؤذون رسول الله لهم عذاب عظيم
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I understand your point but It is an important question, Prophets cry for their family and their people because they love them and want guidance for them, even if they are kuffar a Prophet will still cry out of compassion and wanting good for them.
You are kidding me right? So, best of creation means their father is also best of creation? Prophet Abraham (PBUH) is the friend of Allah, he is most dear to Allah, look at Abraham (A)'s father. Parents have nothing to do with their kids being good or bad. I am really tired of such ignorance.
Last hadith he said "i come from pure loins etc" is fabricated its from al hilya by abu naim which is a book about early sufism mostly. We are extremely saddened by it but if RasoolAllah (pbuh) said his parents are in hell now we can't dispute anymore. May Allah guide us all.
No that’s not the case. The general rule is we accept and take ahad Hadith. Suspending an ahad Hadith that is Sahih in its chain and narrators is the exception not the rule if the ahad Hadith contradicts the Quran or Mutawatir Hadith or other authentic Hadiths then we suspend it and don’t accept the apparent meaning of it without saying the Hadith is false but rather we say Allah knows the best whether the Prophet actually said it or not or what he meant by it or the context of it. But this is for the scholars to reconcile… There’s not many ahad Hadiths that are authentic where this applies, only a handful
@@abdirashidmohamud1136 Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I saw ‘Amra ibn ‘Amr ibn Luhayy al-Khuza’i dragging his intestines in the Hellfire. He introduced the custom of releasing animals on behalf of false gods.” In another narration, the Prophet said, “He was the first to change the religion of Ishmael and set up idols.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3521 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari clearly this man is being punished for changing the religoin of the Arabs to polytheism. so yes they did have monotheism
Weren't the Arabs descendants of Ismail as and Ebrahim AS? So if we established that then shouldn't they have received the message already? Many Arabs from jahilliyyah didn't deny Allah they worshipped others along with Him. Wether or not Nabi saw parents fell in thjs category only Allah knows
These People overglorify People,this is why when A certain Hadith reaches them they become shocked. May Allah keep you steadfast upon his religion. Even the prophet was practicing the religion of Ibrahim before he got wahy
you dont make sense then why was his father circumcised? because there was a message. and why were there among the arabs who were monotheistic? because they followed ibrahim/moses/jesus
Our Aqeedah is on this that we stay quite on such issues. If it is not part of Fundamentals of Islam, why are we plunging ourselves in disrespect of Prophet (PBUH) and his family. Our scholars say that we keep our mouth shut on these. Allah knows best.
But what's the proof for why they're Ahlul Jannah? I mean the proof is in regards to their unknown status and that they will not be punished until they're tested. But where is the proof to say they're the people of Jannah in the akhirah but treated like disbelievers in the dunya? And how is saying "they're ahlul jannah" not a violation of the matters that are with Allah alone? I'm curious to know.
The people that say Arabs are part of ahlal fatra say the prophet here meant Abu talib. But there are many ayah and hadith to show that Arabs aren't part of ahlal fatra
Brother the people who ask such type of questions are Munafiq... The Fish that kept Prophet Younus ( peace be upon him) in the stomach is granted Jannah only because it carried a Prophet ...Then what about the Blessed Parents of our Beloved Sallalahu Alaihi va salam who is the Master Of All prophets.. These munafiqs have nothing to do with islam
uhm, Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
@@ronaldoromario What?! A clear fabrication! Where do you get your knowledge?! Check and be honest and follow the truth! And that same fish…. was a punishment for Nabiyillahi Yunus. And it caused him severe burns. Will someone else come now and say that the fish will go to hell for this? Ridiculous. May Allah bring us back to what He revealed away from the fabrications of man.
@@hamzaharun3333 The name Amina means obedient of Imaan and The name Abdullah means Servant of Allah..by the name Alone describe of the Character of Blessed Parents of our Beloved RasulAllah (peace be upon him).. We pray for our parents that Allah grants them higher honour in paradise and You all say That our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) parents will not go to Paradise..What a disgrace that you all call yourself Muslim..We Respect and honour our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) parents more than our Parents and we will do so till death and also on the day of judgement insha'Allah..This is a Matter of faith and Imaan and our Imaan is our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him).The mercy to all worlds..We thank Allah the creator of heavens and earth That he made us to be the Ummati of his beloved Prophet of them all ( peace be upon him)..
@@ronaldoromario Salam. The name Amina does not mean that. It means safe. Dispense with the fake translations. Abdullah means that indeed. A man’s name never saved him. And there are many by the name of Abdullah who don’t act like it. And the Arabs have always believed in Allah. Always. So just as it’s not surprising that they named some of their children Abdulluzzah, it is not surprising nor out of nowhere that they named their children Abdullah. You should educate yourself. Furthermore, you should leave off ridicule and attempts at disrespect. I am a Muslim. And I don’t submit to the notion that you love the Prophet (saw) more I. Due to basic education, I also understand that Islam has nothing at all to do with the Prophet’s (saw) parents. My Islam is totally disconnected from them. No one is a disgrace of a Muslim because of this issue. My stance can be found in the Sunnah. And the idea in the Quran. Your stance is found in speculation and in hearts that are inclined to exaggeration in loving the Prophet (saw) that this love is then extended to others on the basis of their blood rather than a combination of that and more importantly Imaan. I may be a disgrace of a Muslim. But I know this is not at all the reason. May Allah guide us.
Didn't she received the message of Isa (AH). The last prophet before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) came. Did Prophet Isa (AH) Instructed her to become Idol worshippers? So how come she didn't receive the message?
Honestly, this doesn't benefit you 1 bit if they are in heaven or hell Allah knows whats upon us is to gain beneficial knowledge that will benefit our dunia and akhira
I definitely agree with you but if it’s not beneficial, why is it written in our religious doctrines then? Shouldn’t all Sahih hadiths be beneficial if we have to extract spiritual conduct & knowledge from them? 🤔 I think it’s worth the discussion 🤷♀️
According to some hadith (authentic)...Ahlul Fitra (if by this we mean those who received no revealtion guidance from a Prophet) will be tested on the DOJ & how they fair/perform in it, will determine whether it is eternal hell⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥or Jannah ⚰️🏞️🏝️for that person. To say oh because they are Ahlul fitra we will bury them with the kufaar but they will go to Jannah is not sounding correct. We will assume that anyone who dies & is burried with the kufar, as a kufaar is eternally damned.⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥Allah knows best whether they are Ahlul Fitra or not..
We don't know, but let me share with you a more authentic narration. Allah subhana wa taala narrated that the Prophet peace be upon said: “I do not say to you that I possess Allah’s treasuries or know the unseen, nor do I claim to be an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.” and he afterwards said “Are those blind equal to those who can see? Will you not then reflect?”
at around 4:57, you say the Prophet's PBUH parents, who never even did anything wrong. I think that is a wrong statement to make. It basically means everything they ever did was right, which is not true. Their account is with Allah SWT. But we don't know what they did in their life.
Two points: 1. I’d take the attitude of Imam Ahmad and not talk about things like this. 2. The point about not talking about if we believe in it is a valid point. And Imam Shaaf’ie (rh) out of respect to Muhammad (saw) did not mention the name of His (saw) daughter in the Hadith of Usama (rh) in relation to punishment.
The Hadith of testing on yaumul qiyamah I’ve heard from a muhaddith that there is a weakness. Ibn Abdul Barr commented that the akhirah is not a place of testing which (of course) we don’t use to determine how we make Hadith authentic or not but it is just supplementary. Using supplementary evidence like this can be mentioned after establishing the Hadith is weak and not on its own. I’d like to look into it further myself.
No one has ensured way into Heaven, that's the truth but Allah is Merciful and He knows for how long one should remain in Hell, its all dependent on our life in this world and how close we are in faith to Him, Allah has made it easy for us on how to go to heaven but we have to work our way to it and prove we are worthy to enter
Grandfather of prophet was clearly making dua to Allah to protect the Kaaba from invasion of Abraha. So how can they (his family) be pagans or disbelievers ?
They were worshipping ALLAH along with pagan idols Unquestionably, for Allāh is the pure religion. And those who take protectors besides Him [say], We only worship them that they may bring us nearer to Allāh in position. Indeed, Allāh will judge between them concerning that over which they differ. Indeed, Allāh does not guide he who is a liar and [confirmed] disbeliever. Qur'an 39:3
So have you considered al-Lāt and al-ʿUzzā? And Manāt, the third - the other one? Is the male for you and for Him the female? That, then, is an unjust division. They are not but [mere] names you have named them - you and your forefathers - for which Allāh has sent down no authority. They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance. Qur'an 53:19-23
How is it that Muslims quote Prophets of the Old and New Testament about the coming of Muhammad yet accept that the family he is born to has no idea that Muhammad would be born from them? Does that make any sense? How would Allah make it known to so many for thousands of years of who Muhammad is and from where and under what circumstance he would be born and yet the very people from whom he would be born would not only have no idea but would also be pagan? Abraham knew so don't you think that at least one family line descending to Muhammad would also know? Allah favored the houses of Nuh, Ibrahim and Imran above all others for Prophecy which means that He would preserve the line from which Muhammad would be born from disbelief. How is it that we don't question that the families and parents of Abraham, Moses, Jesus were Believers yet for the greatest of all Prophets and God's Mercy to Mankind many Muslims are adamant that Muhammad was born from parents who were unaware, unexpecting idol worshipers. There are other strong sources that say Muhammad's parents were in fact strong Believers all the way back to Adam yet these are utterly rejected by the majority. Why is that?
@@elmajraz6019 Yes because they knew that the Prophet would emerge from there and their hope was that he emerge from them but then rejected him when he did not. What does that have to do with Muhammad's parents not being Pagans and clueless about Muhammad?
@@SI00000 because Banu Hashim, the custodians of Mecca, never bowed down to an idol. Except one, the last of them, Abu Lahab. Yes, even Abu Talib never bowed to an idol. He was the one who married the Prophet to Khadija. Go and read his sermon. He swore by the Lord of Ibrahim and Ismail, not by Lat Manat and Uzza.
@@elmajraz6019 I am aware that the family of Muhammad, the Bani Hashim, were believers except for a few here and there like Abu Lahab. My initial comment was intended to make Muslims think and look deeper and understand that the same people who fought Muhammad for 23 years were the same people who quickly regained power not long after him and did all they could to bring down the name of Muhammad and the true teachings of the Quran and Islam.
@@SI00000 oh, I see that you're a Shia? Lol. Well, at least we both agree about the Prophet's parents (a.s.), not whatever n0n3s3nse you just wrote there.
@@abbas-ali isn't Ibrahim alayhi assalam's father in hell? Thus, we can't say for sure that the Prophet Muhammad pbuh's parents are not in hell because they are his parents.
@@tariqramadan1521 yes, just as I said. We know because of the "Quran". I didn't say we intellectually decided. God gave us the knowledge that Abu-lahab is in the hellfire through the Quran.
I have understood from this video not to say they are in Jahanam. May Allah forgive me for my past statements on this matter. But I think it is not also accurate to claim they are in Jannah. We just don't know. And it is not important for our theology.
But syiekh, my teacher is also an ash'arie,he told me that the parent of our prophet pbuh, already received the message of Islam at that time, because even though they lived in a jahiliya era, but there are still some abraham teaching, so based on the hadith and quran verses, it indicated that they know that is wrong to worship idols,but still chose to follow their ancestor way instead of way of Islam which then completed by our prophet pbuh.
The questioner asked O Messenger of Allah, where is my father (Abi) Prophet ﷺ responded My (Ab) and your (Ab) are in Hell If Ab Is translated as uncle then it will be My uncle and your father are in Hell It doesn’t make any sense use the same differently without making it clear As for pure loins , it means not outside wedlock, of course they were idol worshippers (irrespective of whether accountable or not )
Why would insult his parents ? Sallahu aliwa sallam. But whts apparent is that they lived and died among non Muslims and was among them……. We have sahih evidence they r in nar AS PER THE PROPHET SALAHU ALHI WA SALAM HIMSELF. This happened to previous prophets as well……
@@kingmosesix432 uh.... brother. he literally explained that. what are you talking about. You want us to act that he did not mention and explain the contexts of the hadith?
Is Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) your enemy? Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.” Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
Exactly. Don’t they dare utter anything about them with their filthy tongues. I will sacrifice my life for Sayyidi Abdullah and Sayyidati Aminah (عليهما الصلاة و السلام)
To be honest I struggled with this question but alhamdulilah the shaykh clarified it. I struggled particularly with the Quranic ayah in Surah Isra and the Apparent Hadith of the prophet.
Where has the etiquette disappeared to? What fuels this obsession with condemning others, as if those doing the condemning are in a position of divine authority, passing judgment onto hell? The Prophet (pbuh) came to guide us away from hell, yet these individuals are recklessly condemning even the Prophet (pbuh) parents to such a fate. I agree with the speaker 100%
Can you please shut up and stop spreading bs, ajeeb akhi he is discussing what is the belief of orthodox islam if you have an issue with that then go back in time and change the views of Ashab r.a. tabaieen r.a. and taba tabaien.
To be accurate to the Quran’s wordings, it is not to seek forgiveness for the mushrikeen. In fact this ayah that was quoted in the video from surah tawbah is thorn in this argument ripping it apart. Allah said: “… after it been clarified that they are people of Hell.” Just as a matter of fact, this is a categorical proof that his (saw) mother is for hell. That’s because Allah only forbade seeking forgiveness for the polytheists after it’s clear that they are people of hell. And then authentically we know that he was specifically forbidden from seeking forgiveness for her. This is clear. As for his father, then his statement is categorical! And authentic! What’s left to conjecture!? Then to put this discussion into perspective: What about waraqah bin Nawfal? What about Zayd bin Amr bin Nufail? Are they the same as the other people of their time? No they are not. And Zayd bin Amr is proof that they knew about Ibrahim and his way and they chose to make shirk following their forefathers. It’s clear.
That's a bit of leap. Not sure. Did they receive the message? Message of what "Monotheism"? Why not. Hijab valley all the way to Yemen was occupied by numerous Jewish and Christian tribes. They practiced monotheism. 2400 yrs prior, Hajar and Prophet Ismael were left in that area around Mecca. Hajar was accompanied by Prophet Ibrahim and she must have been a strict monotheism. Do the message had already reached Mecca and Hijab. Finally, when the Messenger asked to pray for his mother's redemption, he was denied by Allah. That shouldn't have been prevented otherwise. Allah always knows best.
They have a vague figure of their ancestor Nabi Ibrahim... That was the last message, the message of Hanif. The Jews never went to Mecca, they went to Medina, Sham and Yemen, but not Mecca... Only for a pit stop, but they never settled there...
Your comment and understanding is a bit of a leap. How could you think a religion which says God has a son (Astagfirullah) is monotheistic? You cannot be serious?
Then I think Imam Abu Hanifa should be called out, because in his book Fiqh ul Akbar he call the Prophets parents kafir and Mulla Ali Qari wrote a book defending this opinion of his.
Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī changed his opinion three years before his death. Read his sharḥ on al-Qādī Iyyād's ash-Shifā. Regarding Abū Ḥanifā, there are several different views and manuscripts to this. Some say they are in Paradise, others say they passed on the fiṭra, and others mā mātu kāfira (they did not die disbelievers). When you say "the Prophet", I want to see you say "salla Llahu alayhi wa sallam". Don't take my Prophet's ﷺ name without sending salutations upon him.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I say the full, sallAllahu alayhi wa alayhi wasalam' every time, it is for me to say. So you are saying Fiqh Ul Akbar is not the work of Imam Abu Hanifa? Or are there multiple manuscripts of Fiqh ul Akbar?
@@MegaTidehunter "he called the Prophets parents", I don't see the full written here. You're lying now on top of that. Also, Fiqh al-Akbar is the work of Abū Ḥanifa, according to a more sound view, and according to others, it is the work of his students based on his view. As for the second, yes, there are multiple manuscripts of Fiqh al-Akbar as there are with multiple old Islamic works and texts. There are often times differences in manuscripts, and this is a primary example.
Multiple manuscripts does not mean there are multiple authors or multiple views of who wrote it. Often times transcribes copied the texts and maybe they interpreted the words differently. Back in Abū Ḥanifa's time, there were no ḥarakāt, and one commentator did mention in his commentary of Fiqh al-Akbar that in kufic font the words "kafir" and "fitra" looked very similar.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I said I 'Say' not that I 'wrote'. This is the unfortunate problem with getting emotionally attached to a firka or personality, like you have. You have to bend over backwards and do ridiculous taweels like 'they thought it said kafir but it was actually fitra'. Was mulla Ali qari completely oblivious of this and he went on to write a whole book defending this opinion rather than just writing one line 'it was a miss print/bad handwriting'? Why is it soo difficult from Muslims to admit and concede that their scholars can make blunders, i see the salafis going over board and doing taweels for every single thing Ibn taymiyyah or Albani has ever said, rather than saying they were not perfect and just admitting it.
Can you give a reference? because what you just said is going against the majority of scholars view. So if there is no reference we have any choice that to reject it.
Did Maryam accept the true message of her own son Ee'sa once the Injeel/Gospel was revealed upon the whole community, or did Maryam stay utmost firm upon the path of her forefathers and followed the guidance of Taurah/Torah to the teeth 🤔 Was she convinced of her own son's new preachings, or was she firm upon her forefathers old teahings 🤔 **Tbh knowing the answers really W-O-N-T benefit me or you**
She did. This a stupid question to begin with. By the way, I don’t mean that as an insult to you. Just as a matter of fact. Allah said she believed in her Lord’s words. That would not be true if she believed in some of revelation and rejected other parts. Just like if we were to reject the other books of Allah we would be considered kuffar. So e would not be considered a believer unless she believed in everything Allah revealed.
She is regarded as the best of woman in our religion, and an entire chapter of the Qur'an is dedicated to her. Since you don't know the sacrifices she made for Islam, and how difficult it was for her to give birth and take care of a beloved Rasool of Allah, I would say you are one of the worst of ignorants known to the Ummah.
Is it true that the prophet saw cried heavily at the grave of his mother and then the sahaba cried also. What ŵas the reason of our proohet crying heavenly? Sorry if i made grammatical mistakes. English is not my mother tongue
Well, that's tricky question. Other than someone who is certified kafir, and refused Allah's message, like Firaun, we cannot say anyone is in hell or heaven. The most sure thing here is they definitely never got the message from Prophet Muhammad (SM) himself. So they will definitely be tested. But we don't know whether they will pass the test of the hereafter. Only Allah knows.
@@alvirarahman574 Include, ﷺ. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).
@@alvirarahman574there is no evidence from books of sira or hadith indicating either of the prophets parents followed the ways if the pagan arabs rather to the contrary the prophets parents are are described as pious and different to the norms of the times
@@owaissheraz put a sock in your mouth. No one asked you and The prophet ﷺ said his father is in the hellfire so why you stinking asha’irrah have to always make ta’weel on everything. You interrupt everything based of your aql. Thinking your intellect is something special
@@SafinaSociety Okay I agree the books were corrupted but does that mean all the idol worshippers that died in the period of between the books being corrupted and the revelation of Muhammad ﷺ are all excused ?
But isn't shirk unforgiveable? Someone could have a concept of a Creator, but they could associate partners and diminish His glory. How is that person going to jannah?
They aren’t accountable until the message reaches them. Shirk is unforgivable but they aren’t accountable for it if the true message of Islam never reached them as Allah says in the Quran that he will never punish any people until he sends a messenger and Allah also says that the disbelievers and polytheists in hellfire will cry out to the angels “tell your Lord to put an end to us” and then the angels will say “was a warner not sent to you” and they will say yes but we denied. So clearly those in hellfire are those whom a warner was sent to them
It in fact is. And he knows it. Using the ayah: “The musharikeen are najas..” is what shows the weakness in this argument. Be cause then it would mean the conclusion of his argument is that they were not mushrikeen. And that is obviously false.
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JazakAllah Khair
Jazakallah khair shaykh, this matter was confusing to me and was cleared in the first 45 seconds of the video
Thank you so much for this video. It cleared up some misconceptions I had, and helped me understand the different views within the realm of Islam. Jazakallah kharain shaykh
The Qur'an makes it clear that God would never punish a people who have never been shown any devine guidance. The teachings of Ishmael and Ibrahim had long been forgotten by the Arabs. However the Qur'an also raises the question of devine retribution for crimes committed by human beings. A good example is that of the pagan Arabs who used to bury alive their female infants.
Sorry what are you asking? I don't understand the question
@@sparephone8228 the prophet muhammed was worshipping Allah in accordance to the religion of Ibrahim hanif, before Islam. It wasn't completely forgotten there were practitioners.
If you are insinuating his parents are in hell, then I'm with you on that.
@@sparephone8228 not true abu baqr ra. for example was a muwahid
This is a crazy question to ask, but even then should be done in a scholarly fashion. If you're arguing in these comments about who's in the fire from the prophet's family, you've got a screw loose and you need to check yourself. It's disrespectful to utter such filth.
There are classical scholars that even wrote books on this question, so I wouldn’t say it’s filth if a person holds the opposing opinion
What’s theologically wrong in prophet’s ﷺ parents being in hell?
You sound like a racist if you see a problem
Why is it disrespectful when we can say that ibraheems alayhu Assalam parents are in hell?
@@lanilubIbrahim as's parents received the message of tawhid from. ALLAH and rejected it.
@@punjabipendu This may be and I'm not saying Muhammad saws parents are in hell but just technically even if Allah would say they are in hell then that's not disrespectful or anything because just because you are the parent of a prophet that doesn't mean you're free from mistakes or anything that's just what I'm saying.
i'm so glad you guys are taking up more space online. We need more orthodox Islam to be represented, jazakallahu khairan
What's orthodox islam?
@@AmirMohammed-go5ss Authentic islam
This isn't orthodox. It's barelwi sufi heretic Islam.
@@scishowwithmoh7216 innovated islam u mean
Dont worry u are getting nowhere close to ahlu sunnah, bunch of innovators
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”
جزاك الله خيرا
Stay away from this sheikh he's not good. Sheikh fawzan better than him
Wahhabis trying their best to insult the parents of the Messenger of Allah (salallahu alayhi wa Salam) will never cease to amaze me
Was Ibrahim (saw) father a kaffir???
bro shut your mouth man its because of hadith they are doing it not because of hatred,
What’s a wahhabi?
It's not insulting if the evidence is there. Scholars have different views regarding this matter as for those who say his parents are in the hellfire, they use evidence as well.
@@FaisalKhan-md2tj the thing is the lack of adab when speaking about this topic. The Prophet (s) cried profoundly at the grave of his mother and just as Dr. Shadee said, if he had that approach to Ikrimah, what about those that mention it and affirm it as if it was nothing? And same applies to Abu Talib.
That goes to people who didnt get message like the people of Amazon, native Americans, and many indigenous people.
But were not many messengers sent to various communities,? Cant we assume these early people of the Americas also heard a message?
@@thesun5323 the israelites go astray even after a prophet reaches them.
i think we can safely guess it would be a similar case for the various ancient indigenous communities as well.
@@thesun5323 I don’t think every individual did, if the message came, it probably died quickly to reach the others
@thesun5323 well they don't have any now or in recent times, their messengers have gone
Say, “Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.” ~ Qur’an 6:164
There were people in makkah that were upon hanafiyyah ( deen of ibrahim) like zayd ibn amr.
When Zaid ibn Amr went to Jews and Christians to inquire about true religion, He was not satisfied and prayed to Allah by saying “O Allah! I make You my Witness that I am on the religion of Abraham.” [Sahih al-Bukhari 3827]
Narrated ‘Abdullah Ibn ‘Umar (رضي الله عنه): The Prophet (ﷺ) met Zayd Ibn ‘Amr Ibn Nufail in the bottom of (the valley of) Baldah before any Wahy (Divine Inspiration) came to the Prophet (ﷺ). A meal was presented to the Prophet (ﷺ) but he refused to eat from it. (Then it was presented to Zayd) who said, “I do not eat anything which you slaughter in the name of your stone idols. I eat none but those things on which Allah’s Name has been mentioned at the time of slaughtering.”
[Sahih al-Bukhari 3826]
Thanks for this explanation. I also thought this. Islam was not there in that time. Then why they ended up in Jahannam?
Also, I don’t understand why people are so obsessed about whose going Jannat and Jahannam. Man think about your Jannat. You don’t need to think about others. People are too obsessed with others life than theirs.
Certain people want to tarnish the name if Muhammad ﷺ as much as they can
Some people were still on the madhab of ibrahim and all other people were following idol worships. That's why they are not from the ones who are on ahle fitra. Otherwise the prophet wouldn't have been forbidden to pray for them
Could we change the title, it seems very gut wrenching. Perhaps “fate of the Prophet’s (ﷺ) Parents” or something which wouldn’t make him ﷺ hurt when seeing it.
Jazak Allahu khayran
What a thoughtful way of thinking of our Prophet (SAW). May Allah grant you the highest levels of jannah ameen. The best comment I’ve ever read on TH-cam.
@@TechSyndrome May Allah bless you and increase you in 'aafiyah and yaqin, and may He reward you and give you more than what you asked for me. Jazāk Allāhu Khayr'an for your kind words. It is disturbing how even today people of so-called "knowledge" do not treat the Prophet (ﷺ) with the respect which is demanded, this title should not even be a thing, even when defending Him ﷺ.
May Allāh give us the love of the Prophet (ﷺ) and his true ta'dhīm. Please @safinasociety change this title.
The prophet صلى الله عليه و سلّم will see this?
I changed the title for users of DeArrow extension, which replaces clickbait titles and thumbnails with (voted on) user submissions; maybe someone can edit the thumbnail to change the text in there as well.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar Well said. Amazing comment. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). Any devout Sunni Muslim must only think good about the honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). We are nothing and nobody without the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).
Both the Blessed Parents of our Prophet Sallalahu Alaihu Wa Salam will be granted Highest Honour in Jannah...
Source. Zero
@@hassanmuse5606 The biggest source is indeed our beloved Prophet ( peace be upon him) insha'Allah All will witness on the day of judgement the honour that parents of RasulAllah (peace be upon him) will get..We want and pray for our parents to go in paradise and we comment ill about the blessed parents of RasulAllah (peace be upon him) what a disgrace to even have that thought..
Our IMAAN is our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) and all that is beloved to him (peace be upon him) is beloved and respected to us..
@@ronaldoromario so no source got it.
@@ronaldoromario this is a source
{It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire.}
Qur'an 9:113
Sunan Ibn Majah 1572
It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said:
“The Prophet (ﷺ) visited the grave of his mother and wept, causing the people around him to weep. Then he said: ‘I asked my Lord for permission to seek forgiveness for her, but He did not give me permission. Then I asked my Lord for permission to visit her grave and He gave me permission. So visit the graves, for they will remind you of death.’”
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 1572
In-book reference : Book 6, Hadith 140
English translation : Vol. 1, Book 6, Hadith 1572
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Sahih al-Bukhari 1360
Narrated Sa`id bin Al-Musaiyab from his father:
When the time of the death of Abu Talib approached, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) went to him and found Abu Jahl bin Hisham and `Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya bin Al-Mughira by his side. Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said to Abu Talib, "O uncle! Say: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, a sentence with which I shall be a witness (i.e. argue) for you before Allah. Abu Jahl and `Abdullah bin Abi Umaiya said, "O Abu Talib! Are you going to denounce the religion of `Abdul Muttalib?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kept on inviting Abu Talib to say it (i.e. 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah') while they (Abu Jahl and `Abdullah) kept on repeating their statement till Abu Talib said as his last statement that he was on the religion of `Abdul Muttalib and refused to say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' (Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "I will keep on asking Allah's forgiveness for you unless I am forbidden (by Allah) to do so." So Allah revealed (the verse) concerning him (i.e. It is not fitting for the Prophet (ﷺ) and those who believe that they should invoke (Allah) for forgiveness for pagans even though they be of kin, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of the fire (9.113).
Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 1360
In-book reference : Book 23, Hadith 113
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 2, Book 23, Hadith 442
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May Allah shower you with Rahma , Habeebi , you just did the best thing to Make (saw) happy
THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL DEFENCE OF THE PARENTS OF THE MESSENGER (SAW).
Say, Whoever is in error - let the Most Merciful extend for him an extension until, when they see that which they were promised - either punishment or the Hour - they will come to know who is worst in position and weaker in soldiers. ~ Qur’an 19:75
This is a matter in which there is a difference of opinion:
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
Those that don’t receive the message in this world will be tested on day of judgement
Did u listen to what he said?
He said the dunya is the abode of testing. There is no more testing in hereafter
If u we’re a mushrik no matter if u received a message or not you will be in hell
@@surendirenparthasarathy9087 you obviously didnt listen. The test is in receiving the message of islam. If anyone hasnt received the message of islam will not be tested accordint to Islamic standards. They will be tested in different ways
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That is one opinion and it is illogical
Why do certian people get to live life however they want without being tested and then go to jannah according to you
Having a test on yawm al Qiyāmah is the most logical and fair view
the hadīth in musnad is clear
@FactsWithActs Or they may not be tested.
The believers record will be different to the non-believers. The believer has some degree of conscious influence over his or her record because they are given guidance on how to earn the favour of Allah or perform valid acts of repentance. The non-beleiver misses out on the opportunities to influence their record because they didn't have access to Islamic guidelines.
That's the trade off.
And Allah then judges both fairly.
I only understand one thing from all this misconception, we must not associate anything with Allah. No one is forgiven on the day of judgment if they do shirk
The trade off is that those who dont receive the message are exposed to more spiritual risks. And they dont have the knowledge on how to positively influence their record of account with Allah. It will be upto Allah to judge individually.
Lots of opinions on this topic, good evidence on both sides, but ultimately it's our own self we have to worry about. For everyone else, we have to believe that Allah will treat them with justice in the hereafter.
May Allah protect us from the devil's deception. Amin. Allahul musta'an.
Say, Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds. ~ Qur’an 6:162
MāshāAllāh well explain covered pretty all common areas of the topic
قال تعالى "وتقلبك في الساجدين"
If Allah (swt) revealed a whole chapter Honouring the mother of isa (as) Maryam , one of the greatest woman mentioned in the quran. Then what about the rank of the woman who bore the best of the creation to ever exist. (Saw)
Ridiculous. Maryam was great through her own merit, not her connection to her son. No one’s relation to another will save them on that day!
Ibrahim's father is in hell, IBrahim the second most loved to Allah after the muhammed, his father is in hell. The connection didn't save him
@@aminmez119Ibrahims as father was called to islam but the dawah didn't reach prophet muhammad saw's father.
But there is no proof that muhammad is the best creation to ever exist lol.
This is the best answer I've heard.
I love this Cheikh
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”
It says in ‘Awn al-Ma’bood:
“But He did not give me permission” means: because she was a kaafirah (disbeliever) and it is not permissible to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.
Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that it is not permitted to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.
This does not show anything .
Visiting grave of a disbeliever is prohibited in Islam but Allah gave permission to our Prophet( peace be upon him) to visit grave of the Blessed Mother this shows she was not a disbeliever.. we are only allowed to visit grave of believer and not of disbeliever as stated in The Holy Quran
(If Allah returns you ˹O Prophet˺ to a group of them and they ask to go forth with you, say, “You will not ever go forth or fight an enemy along with me. You preferred to stay behind the first time, so stay with those ˹helpless˺ who remain behind.”)
(And do not ever offer ˹funeral˺ prayers for any of their dead, nor stand by their grave ˹at burial˺, for they have lost faith in Allah and His Messenger and died rebellious)
The Holy Quran
Chapter 9 Verse 83-84
There is no evidence that Blessed Mother of our Prophet ( peace be upon him) worshipped idol or any sort of pagan ritual so dont try to come to conclusions..
@@ronaldoromario Lol , you are asking me not to come to conclusions and you concluded that she is blessed 😳
@@ronaldoromario Also my issue is not whether she is disbeliever or not , I don’t think it matters to me
My issue is your urge to vindicate her when it is clearly unnecessary
@@muhammedshanushan3931 You clearly stated that She is a disbeliever by quoting Al nawawi(may Allah be pleased with him)..
Good that you dont have an opinion on this but people they cross the line avoiding Adab and respect
@@muhammedshanushan3931 And there is no evidence that the parents of Our Beloved Prophet ( peace be upon him) were idol worshippers or they did any pre islamic pagan rituals there is not a single evidence..
But there are references and source indicating their Imaan..
Aftr all They are Parents of The Best of Creation ( peace be upon him).
The parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ) are undoubtedly amongst the most excellent of people.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger, (ﷺ) as saying:
I sought permission to beg forgiveness for my mother, but Allah did not grant it to me. I sought permission from Him to visit her grave, and He granted it (permission) to me.
Sahih Muslim
If she were a kâfir God wouldn't allow him to visit her grave probably. The reason God didn't allow him to ask forgiveness was probably that he pbuh wasn't allowed to ask forgiveness in an intercession manner to the people other than his ummah. Like in the hadeeth about the intercession stated
@@l3ll5l you are permitted to visit the grave of your parents no matter what they were the Quran also mentions to keep a good relation with your parents even if they are disbelievers but don’t follow them in what they do I don’t know why people see that as problematic to accept that the mother of the prophet is in hell based on what she used to be and that’s an mushrika as it seems
@@Y_al_muahid I don't know about this. You are making a categorical fallacy. Either way the opinion about being a mushrikah contradicts other narrations while violating core Islamic teachings. The conclusion of them is only conjecture based upon jumped conclusions. If there can be multiple interpretations the one with the least conflict to other narrations should be prioritised. Even basic Islamic manners should teach one that those kind of accusations should be based upon certain evidences not conjectures if there is any possibility that points out one should take this route but here it isn't necessary because the dominant weight is already that they are not disbelievers. There are other possible explanations too but this should be already enough don't you think?
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The prophet was denied to make dua for her due to her being died as non Muslim…
Just as Allah forbade abraham from praying for his father AFTER it became clear hes father was an clear enemy of God….
U cant pray for musrikeen thts why the prophet salahu aligi wa salam was forbidden…….
As for visiting graves if its ur family ofc we can.
But as a rule we domt pray for mushrikeen..
Whts so complex about this issue when the Prophet salahu alihi wasallam himself cleared it ?
Plus this happened to previous ambiyas as well.
@@kingmosesix432 your analogy is flawed even if we accept the father of Abraham pbuh as his biological father here the only thing making the two things similar is 1 there are parents of a prophet 2 God didn't allowed for asking forgiveness . the differences are 1 one is in his era the other is not from his pbuh ummah 2. One is allowed to visit the grave the other is not known 3. One explicitly disbelieved the other is not known 4 one had a warner from God the other had no warner stated by the Quran. Now an analogy is used when you don't know the conclusion of a matter but have a similar one that you know the conclusion of then you apply the one you know to the one you don't. But the most important thing is that when making an analogy the thing that determines the outcome must be similar if they are different the analogy becomes flawed. Here the similarities doesn't neccesates the conclusion therefore you can't use it as an analogy for this. here even most of the differences contribute more to the conclusion than the similarities. Why? Because the reason for not allowing to ask for forgiveness could be other than the conclusion like because they are not from his ummah. We have a similar case were God doesn't allow the Prophet pbuh for intercession other than his ummah not because they were disbelievers rather God limited the Prophets pbuh intercession to his ummah. And yes asking for forgiveness is an intercession. Like I stated above this way all other narrations are in harmony there is no conflict.
I cannot fathom the fact that some people insist on persuing this point.
What benefit is there on such rabid insistence on something that is clearly a difference of opinion?
Pause of a minute. Breathe. Ask yourself why you exert such energy on trying to force people to believe that the parents of the Best of Creation ﷺ are in the fire.
What is the benefit?
To Salafis and Wahhabis it's like a pissing contest. The more they can boost their ego, the more they like delving into it. Their parents didn't love them as children and now they're taking their anger out on the rest of us
Nifāq in the hearts. They should pause and reflect, this is the blessed woman he (ﷺ) broke down crying tears for, how would he (ﷺ) feel if he (ﷺ) saw their comments and words?
و الذين يؤذون رسول الله لهم عذاب عظيم
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I understand your point but It is an important question, Prophets cry for their family and their people because they love them and want guidance for them, even if they are kuffar a Prophet will still cry out of compassion and wanting good for them.
You are kidding me right? So, best of creation means their father is also best of creation? Prophet Abraham (PBUH) is the friend of Allah, he is most dear to Allah, look at Abraham (A)'s father. Parents have nothing to do with their kids being good or bad. I am really tired of such ignorance.
But there is no proof that muhammad is the best creation to ever exist lol.
2:45 Abu Talib it was meant not Abi Lahab?
tabarakAllah, this explanations are elite, nuanced not confusing
Last hadith he said "i come from pure loins etc" is fabricated its from al hilya by abu naim which is a book about early sufism mostly. We are extremely saddened by it but if RasoolAllah (pbuh) said his parents are in hell now we can't dispute anymore. May Allah guide us all.
Refuses ahad hadith but believes khidr is still alive.
Ahad Hadith in matters of Aqeedah. I know you’re a convert and all, but you’ve been Muslim long enough to have learned the basics by now big fella
@@AU-ic7ur is the hadeeth about alkhidr being alive ilmulghayb?
No that’s not the case. The general rule is we accept and take ahad Hadith. Suspending an ahad Hadith that is Sahih in its chain and narrators is the exception not the rule if the ahad Hadith contradicts the Quran or Mutawatir Hadith or other authentic Hadiths then we suspend it and don’t accept the apparent meaning of it without saying the Hadith is false but rather we say Allah knows the best whether the Prophet actually said it or not or what he meant by it or the context of it. But this is for the scholars to reconcile… There’s not many ahad Hadiths that are authentic where this applies, only a handful
Haven't these Muslims heard of the hunafa? The monotheists that clung to the remains of tawheed left by prophets Ibrahim and Ismail (as)?
There was no messenger sent to the Arab prior to prophet Mohamed so Allah will not punish them if he didn’t send them a messenger’s
@@abdirashidmohamud1136 What about prophet Salih as
@@abdirashidmohamud1136 Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I saw ‘Amra ibn ‘Amr ibn Luhayy al-Khuza’i dragging his intestines in the Hellfire. He introduced the custom of releasing animals on behalf of false gods.”
In another narration, the Prophet said, “He was the first to change the religion of Ishmael and set up idols.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3521
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari
clearly this man is being punished for changing the religoin of the Arabs to polytheism. so yes they did have monotheism
Weren't the Arabs descendants of Ismail as and Ebrahim AS? So if we established that then shouldn't they have received the message already? Many Arabs from jahilliyyah didn't deny Allah they worshipped others along with Him. Wether or not Nabi saw parents fell in thjs category only Allah knows
These People overglorify People,this is why when A certain Hadith reaches them they become shocked. May Allah keep you steadfast upon his religion. Even the prophet was practicing the religion of Ibrahim before he got wahy
you dont make sense then why was his father circumcised? because there was a message. and why were there among the arabs who were monotheistic? because they followed ibrahim/moses/jesus
Our Aqeedah is on this that we stay quite on such issues. If it is not part of Fundamentals of Islam, why are we plunging ourselves in disrespect of Prophet (PBUH) and his family. Our scholars say that we keep our mouth shut on these. Allah knows best.
But what's the proof for why they're Ahlul Jannah? I mean the proof is in regards to their unknown status and that they will not be punished until they're tested. But where is the proof to say they're the people of Jannah in the akhirah but treated like disbelievers in the dunya? And how is saying "they're ahlul jannah" not a violation of the matters that are with Allah alone? I'm curious to know.
Hello wasn't prophet Salih as sent to the people of Arabia?
After reading as suyutis treaty on this it’s really cringe that wahabis read Hadiths and run with what they read because Hadith is Sunnah to them
If those who have not received the message are people of Jannah, then what is the impetus behind spreading the word of Islam?
because if we dont spread the message we will be held accountable
So the oppressor also goes to jannah bc he is from “ahlul fitrah” ???
2:45 could it be meant for Abu Talib instead? who was like a father and received and rejected the message?
The people that say Arabs are part of ahlal fatra say the prophet here meant Abu talib. But there are many ayah and hadith to show that Arabs aren't part of ahlal fatra
Masha Allah. Ahlusuna Wajama'a creed makes sense 1,000 %
How can this even be a question? Think of it logically. The womb that carries Allah swt greatest creation is in hell? What stupidity
Brother the people who ask such type of questions are Munafiq...
The Fish that kept Prophet Younus ( peace be upon him) in the stomach is granted Jannah only because it carried a Prophet ...Then what about the Blessed Parents of our Beloved Sallalahu Alaihi va salam who is the Master Of All prophets..
These munafiqs have nothing to do with islam
uhm, Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
@@ronaldoromario What?! A clear fabrication! Where do you get your knowledge?! Check and be honest and follow the truth! And that same fish…. was a punishment for Nabiyillahi Yunus. And it caused him severe burns. Will someone else come now and say that the fish will go to hell for this? Ridiculous. May Allah bring us back to what He revealed away from the fabrications of man.
@@hamzaharun3333 The name Amina means obedient of Imaan and The name Abdullah means Servant of Allah..by the name Alone describe of the Character of Blessed Parents of our Beloved RasulAllah (peace be upon him)..
We pray for our parents that Allah grants them higher honour in paradise and You all say That our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) parents will not go to Paradise..What a disgrace that you all call yourself Muslim..We Respect and honour our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) parents more than our Parents and we will do so till death and also on the day of judgement insha'Allah..This is a Matter of faith and Imaan and our Imaan is our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him).The mercy to all worlds..We thank Allah the creator of heavens and earth That he made us to be the Ummati of his beloved Prophet of them all ( peace be upon him)..
@@ronaldoromario Salam. The name Amina does not mean that. It means safe. Dispense with the fake translations. Abdullah means that indeed. A man’s name never saved him. And there are many by the name of Abdullah who don’t act like it. And the Arabs have always believed in Allah. Always. So just as it’s not surprising that they named some of their children Abdulluzzah, it is not surprising nor out of nowhere that they named their children Abdullah. You should educate yourself.
Furthermore, you should leave off ridicule and attempts at disrespect. I am a Muslim. And I don’t submit to the notion that you love the Prophet (saw) more I. Due to basic education, I also understand that Islam has nothing at all to do with the Prophet’s (saw) parents. My Islam is totally disconnected from them. No one is a disgrace of a Muslim because of this issue. My stance can be found in the Sunnah. And the idea in the Quran. Your stance is found in speculation and in hearts that are inclined to exaggeration in loving the Prophet (saw) that this love is then extended to others on the basis of their blood rather than a combination of that and more importantly Imaan. I may be a disgrace of a Muslim. But I know this is not at all the reason. May Allah guide us.
Didn't she received the message of Isa (AH). The last prophet before Prophet Muhammad (SAW) came. Did Prophet Isa (AH) Instructed her to become Idol worshippers? So how come she didn't receive the message?
Honestly, this doesn't benefit you 1 bit if they are in heaven or hell Allah knows whats upon us is to gain beneficial knowledge that will benefit our dunia and akhira
I definitely agree with you but if it’s not beneficial, why is it written in our religious doctrines then? Shouldn’t all Sahih hadiths be beneficial if we have to extract spiritual conduct & knowledge from them? 🤔 I think it’s worth the discussion 🤷♀️
According to some hadith (authentic)...Ahlul Fitra (if by this we mean those who received no revealtion guidance from a Prophet) will be tested on the DOJ & how they fair/perform in it, will determine whether it is eternal hell⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥or Jannah ⚰️🏞️🏝️for that person. To say oh because they are Ahlul fitra we will bury them with the kufaar but they will go to Jannah is not sounding correct. We will assume that anyone who dies & is burried with the kufar, as a kufaar is eternally damned.⚰️👿🔥🔥🔥Allah knows best whether they are Ahlul Fitra or not..
We don't know, but let me share with you a more authentic narration.
Allah subhana wa taala narrated that the Prophet peace be upon said: “I do not say to you that I possess Allah’s treasuries or know the unseen, nor do I claim to be an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.” and he afterwards said “Are those blind equal to those who can see? Will you not then reflect?”
Jazakallah kairan shayekh. Its like my brain new window just opened.
at around 4:57, you say the Prophet's PBUH parents, who never even did anything wrong.
I think that is a wrong statement to make. It basically means everything they ever did was right, which is not true.
Their account is with Allah SWT. But we don't know what they did in their life.
Two points:
1. I’d take the attitude of Imam Ahmad and not talk about things like this.
2. The point about not talking about if we believe in it is a valid point. And Imam Shaaf’ie (rh) out of respect to Muhammad (saw) did not mention the name of His (saw) daughter in the Hadith of Usama (rh) in relation to punishment.
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Sheikh, do we do refrain from saying wretched people like Netanyahu are in the hell fire as well?
The prophets parent were not alive to learn about the last messenger so therefore that question is irrelevant.
The Hadith of testing on yaumul qiyamah I’ve heard from a muhaddith that there is a weakness. Ibn Abdul Barr commented that the akhirah is not a place of testing which (of course) we don’t use to determine how we make Hadith authentic or not but it is just supplementary. Using supplementary evidence like this can be mentioned after establishing the Hadith is weak and not on its own. I’d like to look into it further myself.
@@Yeah_sure_ did you find anything regarding the authenticity?
No one has ensured way into Heaven, that's the truth but Allah is Merciful and He knows for how long one should remain in Hell, its all dependent on our life in this world and how close we are in faith to Him, Allah has made it easy for us on how to go to heaven but we have to work our way to it and prove we are worthy to enter
May Allah shower his mercy upon prophet's(s.a.w ) parents
Okay what about those people who prayed to multiple Gods? Are they in jannah too?
Grandfather of prophet was clearly making dua to Allah to protect the Kaaba from invasion of Abraha. So how can they (his family) be pagans or disbelievers ?
They were worshipping ALLAH along with pagan idols
Unquestionably, for Allāh is the pure religion. And those who take protectors besides Him [say], We only worship them that they may bring us nearer to Allāh in position. Indeed, Allāh will judge between them concerning that over which they differ. Indeed, Allāh does not guide he who is a liar and [confirmed] disbeliever.
Qur'an 39:3
So have you considered al-Lāt and al-ʿUzzā?
And Manāt, the third - the other one?
Is the male for you and for Him the female?
That, then, is an unjust division.
They are not but [mere] names you have named them - you and your forefathers - for which Allāh has sent down no authority. They follow not except assumption and what [their] souls desire, and there has already come to them from their Lord guidance.
Qur'an 53:19-23
Bro started speaking like MBS and rejecting ahad Hadith lol
Ahad ahadith are dhanni in thubut
It offends you that sheikhs are not blood worshipers ?
How is it that Muslims quote Prophets of the Old and New Testament about the coming of Muhammad yet accept that the family he is born to has no idea that Muhammad would be born from them? Does that make any sense? How would Allah make it known to so many for thousands of years of who Muhammad is and from where and under what circumstance he would be born and yet the very people from whom he would be born would not only have no idea but would also be pagan?
Abraham knew so don't you think that at least one family line descending to Muhammad would also know?
Allah favored the houses of Nuh, Ibrahim and Imran above all others for Prophecy which means that He would preserve the line from which Muhammad would be born from disbelief.
How is it that we don't question that the families and parents of Abraham, Moses, Jesus were Believers yet for the greatest of all Prophets and God's Mercy to Mankind many Muslims are adamant that Muhammad was born from parents who were unaware, unexpecting idol worshipers.
There are other strong sources that say Muhammad's parents were in fact strong Believers all the way back to Adam yet these are utterly rejected by the majority.
Why is that?
Mecca and Medina are two different cities. The Jews went to Medina/Yathrib, not Mecca.
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Yes because they knew that the Prophet would emerge from there and their hope was that he emerge from them but then rejected him when he did not.
What does that have to do with Muhammad's parents not being Pagans and clueless about Muhammad?
@@SI00000 because Banu Hashim, the custodians of Mecca, never bowed down to an idol. Except one, the last of them, Abu Lahab.
Yes, even Abu Talib never bowed to an idol. He was the one who married the Prophet to Khadija. Go and read his sermon. He swore by the Lord of Ibrahim and Ismail, not by Lat Manat and Uzza.
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I am aware that the family of Muhammad, the Bani Hashim, were believers except for a few here and there like Abu Lahab.
My initial comment was intended to make Muslims think and look deeper and understand that the same people who fought Muhammad for 23 years were the same people who quickly regained power not long after him and did all they could to bring down the name of Muhammad and the true teachings of the Quran and Islam.
@@SI00000 oh, I see that you're a Shia? Lol. Well, at least we both agree about the Prophet's parents (a.s.), not whatever n0n3s3nse you just wrote there.
May allah protect us from this wahabism😢.....try their best to insult prophet's parents 😢
How can you say they in fire when ALLAH swt chose them to be the parents of our prophet pbuh..
@@abbas-ali isn't Ibrahim alayhi assalam's father in hell? Thus, we can't say for sure that the Prophet Muhammad pbuh's parents are not in hell because they are his parents.
@@Rasen-O it’s hard to say who is in heaven or hell until final hour
@@tariqramadan1521 I think it was already mentioned in the Quran. Similar to Abu-lahab which we know is in the hellfire.
@@Rasen-Oso we know who goes to hell and heaven I thought only Allah knows wow what a contradiction
@@tariqramadan1521 yes, just as I said. We know because of the "Quran". I didn't say we intellectually decided. God gave us the knowledge that Abu-lahab is in the hellfire through the Quran.
I have understood from this video not to say they are in Jahanam. May Allah forgive me for my past statements on this matter. But I think it is not also accurate to claim they are in Jannah. We just don't know. And it is not important for our theology.
What about the message of torah and injeel? The message surely reached?
But syiekh, my teacher is also an ash'arie,he told me that the parent of our prophet pbuh, already received the message of Islam at that time, because even though they lived in a jahiliya era, but there are still some abraham teaching, so based on the hadith and quran verses, it indicated that they know that is wrong to worship idols,but still chose to follow their ancestor way instead of way of Islam which then completed by our prophet pbuh.
The questioner asked O Messenger of Allah, where is my father (Abi)
Prophet ﷺ responded My (Ab) and your (Ab) are in Hell
If Ab Is translated as uncle then it will be My uncle and your father are in Hell
It doesn’t make any sense use the same differently without making it clear
As for pure loins , it means not outside wedlock, of course they were idol worshippers (irrespective of whether accountable or not )
I consider any person that insults the parents of our Prophet Muhammad s.a.w my enemy.
I dont care who you are watch what you say around me, wahabis.
Why would insult his parents ? Sallahu aliwa sallam.
But whts apparent is that they lived and died among non Muslims and was among them…….
We have sahih evidence they r in nar AS PER THE PROPHET SALAHU ALHI WA SALAM HIMSELF.
This happened to previous prophets as well……
@@kingmosesix432 uh.... brother. he literally explained that. what are you talking about. You want us to act that he did not mention and explain the contexts of the hadith?
Is Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) your enemy?
Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.
Exactly. Don’t they dare utter anything about them with their filthy tongues. I will sacrifice my life for Sayyidi Abdullah and Sayyidati Aminah (عليهما الصلاة و السلام)
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar Do we have any clear cut evidence about whether thay are in Jannah?
To be honest I struggled with this question but alhamdulilah the shaykh clarified it.
I struggled particularly with the Quranic ayah in Surah Isra and the Apparent Hadith of the prophet.
أحسنت شيخ
فلله الحمد و الشكر لله رب العالمين
Where has the etiquette disappeared to? What fuels this obsession with condemning others, as if those doing the condemning are in a position of divine authority, passing judgment onto hell?
The Prophet (pbuh) came to guide us away from hell, yet these individuals are recklessly condemning even the Prophet (pbuh) parents to such a fate.
I agree with the speaker 100%
Can you please shut up and stop spreading bs, ajeeb akhi he is discussing what is the belief of orthodox islam if you have an issue with that then go back in time and change the views of Ashab r.a. tabaieen r.a. and taba tabaien.
@@asadwaseem7838 which akhi are you referring to?
it is a valid question.
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Nobody is in Hellfire till yaumul qiyamah. Allah is the Judge, He is merciful.
This question is preposterous.
To be accurate to the Quran’s wordings, it is not to seek forgiveness for the mushrikeen. In fact this ayah that was quoted in the video from surah tawbah is thorn in this argument ripping it apart. Allah said: “… after it been clarified that they are people of Hell.”
Just as a matter of fact, this is a categorical proof that his (saw) mother is for hell. That’s because Allah only forbade seeking forgiveness for the polytheists after it’s clear that they are people of hell. And then authentically we know that he was specifically forbidden from seeking forgiveness for her. This is clear. As for his father, then his statement is categorical! And authentic! What’s left to conjecture!?
Then to put this discussion into perspective:
What about waraqah bin Nawfal? What about Zayd bin Amr bin Nufail?
Are they the same as the other people of their time? No they are not. And Zayd bin Amr is proof that they knew about Ibrahim and his way and they chose to make shirk following their forefathers. It’s clear.
That's a bit of leap. Not sure. Did they receive the message? Message of what "Monotheism"? Why not. Hijab valley all the way to Yemen was occupied by numerous Jewish and Christian tribes. They practiced monotheism. 2400 yrs prior, Hajar and Prophet Ismael were left in that area around Mecca. Hajar was accompanied by Prophet Ibrahim and she must have been a strict monotheism. Do the message had already reached Mecca and Hijab. Finally, when the Messenger asked to pray for his mother's redemption, he was denied by Allah. That shouldn't have been prevented otherwise. Allah always knows best.
They have a vague figure of their ancestor Nabi Ibrahim... That was the last message, the message of Hanif. The Jews never went to Mecca, they went to Medina, Sham and Yemen, but not Mecca... Only for a pit stop, but they never settled there...
All messages were corrupted, and hence nobody libale. otherwise what would be the need of sending the Prophet ﷺ ?
@@SafinaSociety
what do you say about عَمْرَو بْنَ عَامِرِ بْنِ لُحَيٍّ الخُزَاعِيَّ
Christians are not monotheist. Not even Jews.
Your comment and understanding is a bit of a leap. How could you think a religion which says God has a son (Astagfirullah) is monotheistic? You cannot be serious?
We do not throw or reject the hadith, but we suspend it 😂😂
Lol
Then I think Imam Abu Hanifa should be called out, because in his book Fiqh ul Akbar he call the Prophets parents kafir and Mulla Ali Qari wrote a book defending this opinion of his.
Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī changed his opinion three years before his death. Read his sharḥ on al-Qādī Iyyād's ash-Shifā. Regarding Abū Ḥanifā, there are several different views and manuscripts to this. Some say they are in Paradise, others say they passed on the fiṭra, and others mā mātu kāfira (they did not die disbelievers). When you say "the Prophet", I want to see you say "salla Llahu alayhi wa sallam". Don't take my Prophet's ﷺ name without sending salutations upon him.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I say the full, sallAllahu alayhi wa alayhi wasalam' every time, it is for me to say.
So you are saying Fiqh Ul Akbar is not the work of Imam Abu Hanifa? Or are there multiple manuscripts of Fiqh ul Akbar?
@@MegaTidehunter "he called the Prophets parents", I don't see the full written here. You're lying now on top of that. Also, Fiqh al-Akbar is the work of Abū Ḥanifa, according to a more sound view, and according to others, it is the work of his students based on his view. As for the second, yes, there are multiple manuscripts of Fiqh al-Akbar as there are with multiple old Islamic works and texts. There are often times differences in manuscripts, and this is a primary example.
Multiple manuscripts does not mean there are multiple authors or multiple views of who wrote it. Often times transcribes copied the texts and maybe they interpreted the words differently. Back in Abū Ḥanifa's time, there were no ḥarakāt, and one commentator did mention in his commentary of Fiqh al-Akbar that in kufic font the words "kafir" and "fitra" looked very similar.
@@RaiyānIbnAṭhar I said I 'Say' not that I 'wrote'.
This is the unfortunate problem with getting emotionally attached to a firka or personality, like you have. You have to bend over backwards and do ridiculous taweels like 'they thought it said kafir but it was actually fitra'. Was mulla Ali qari completely oblivious of this and he went on to write a whole book defending this opinion rather than just writing one line 'it was a miss print/bad handwriting'?
Why is it soo difficult from Muslims to admit and concede that their scholars can make blunders, i see the salafis going over board and doing taweels for every single thing Ibn taymiyyah or Albani has ever said, rather than saying they were not perfect and just admitting it.
Which quranic verse did he point out regarding hurting the Prophet? Ina zalika kana uzin nabi? Can someone please tell me the number?
Part of a longer ayah - Surah Al Ahzab verse 53
Al Ahzab, verse 53
Can you give a reference? because what you just said is going against the majority of scholars view. So if there is no reference we have any choice that to reject it.
Jazakum Allah khair
I thought this was only applicable alMowahidun, ie nonMuslim but monotheist.
It could only annoy the Prophet Alehyhisalaam if you said it to his face. He is dead now.🤷🏿♂️
Aahad is the term used alot by madhabis to make there way into justifying thier madhab and belief and reject a saheeh hadith!
Mashallah ❤
Did Maryam accept the true message of her own son Ee'sa once the Injeel/Gospel was revealed upon the whole community, or did Maryam stay utmost firm upon the path of her forefathers and followed the guidance of Taurah/Torah to the teeth 🤔
Was she convinced of her own son's new preachings, or was she firm upon her forefathers old teahings 🤔
**Tbh knowing the answers really W-O-N-T benefit me or you**
She did. This a stupid question to begin with. By the way, I don’t mean that as an insult to you. Just as a matter of fact. Allah said she believed in her Lord’s words. That would not be true if she believed in some of revelation and rejected other parts. Just like if we were to reject the other books of Allah we would be considered kuffar. So e would not be considered a believer unless she believed in everything Allah revealed.
She is regarded as the best of woman in our religion, and an entire chapter of the Qur'an is dedicated to her. Since you don't know the sacrifices she made for Islam, and how difficult it was for her to give birth and take care of a beloved Rasool of Allah, I would say you are one of the worst of ignorants known to the Ummah.
Is it true that the prophet saw cried heavily at the grave of his mother and then the sahaba cried also. What ŵas the reason of our proohet crying heavenly? Sorry if i made grammatical mistakes. English is not my mother tongue
Can't someone cry when they miss their mother for long time and then meet them,?
Yes he wept but this would not indicate anything about heaven or hell
@@SafinaSociety ﷺ
We reject and Tawil of every evidence bcz it contradicts with our baseless theological commitments
It would be much better to respond to the islamqa article on stream.
Subhanallah
الصلاة و السلام على سيدي عبدالله و سيدتي آمنة
4:32 Why is it forbidden to say that the Prophet's parents are in hell?
It is forbidden to speak of anyone's otherwirldy destination without definitive proof
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Well, that's tricky question. Other than someone who is certified kafir, and refused Allah's message, like Firaun, we cannot say anyone is in hell or heaven. The most sure thing here is they definitely never got the message from Prophet Muhammad (SM) himself. So they will definitely be tested. But we don't know whether they will pass the test of the hereafter. Only Allah knows.
@@alvirarahman574 Include, ﷺ. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).
@@alvirarahman574there is no evidence from books of sira or hadith indicating either of the prophets parents followed the ways if the pagan arabs rather to the contrary the prophets parents are are described as pious and different to the norms of the times
What about receiving the message of the prior messengers before Muhammad ﷺ received revelation?
Do u think did he get any messages!!!???
Even the prophet isa's message was distorted
@@owaissheraz put a sock in your mouth. No one asked you and The prophet ﷺ said his father is in the hellfire so why you stinking asha’irrah have to always make ta’weel on everything. You interrupt everything based of your aql. Thinking your intellect is something special
They were all corrupted and nothing was reliable
@@SafinaSociety Okay I agree the books were corrupted but does that mean all the idol worshippers that died in the period of between the books being corrupted and the revelation of Muhammad ﷺ are all excused ?
Correct@@Kay-sd1fw
But isn't shirk unforgiveable? Someone could have a concept of a Creator, but they could associate partners and diminish His glory. How is that person going to jannah?
They aren’t accountable until the message reaches them. Shirk is unforgivable but they aren’t accountable for it if the true message of Islam never reached them as Allah says in the Quran that he will never punish any people until he sends a messenger and Allah also says that the disbelievers and polytheists in hellfire will cry out to the angels “tell your Lord to put an end to us” and then the angels will say “was a warner not sent to you” and they will say yes but we denied. So clearly those in hellfire are those whom a warner was sent to them
The Arabs and especially quraish are not part of ahlal fatra. Abdullah bin judan prophet mention he is in hell even though his from ahlal fatra
6:13 that could refer to being from loins free of zina
It in fact is. And he knows it. Using the ayah: “The musharikeen are najas..” is what shows the weakness in this argument. Be cause then it would mean the conclusion of his argument is that they were not mushrikeen. And that is obviously false.
Masha allah shaikh ❤