Love, how it's also color coded. Like each protagonist has their own, and when they meet, they add to the others color scheme. With the true endings having every four of them.
Oh that's why the True Endings looked so different! I noticed the fact they obviously each have their own colors but not that they added to eachother after meeting. Thanks for bringing that up
Now dont get me wrong I LOVE!!!! the ending of the game and I agree with your statements but I feel like there is a miss oppurtunity with tragedys ending, let me explain. I feel like just like how the nameless main character that we play self insert into tragedys story and turn it into a good ending, the developer could have had us *actually* self insert *ourselves* into the game and like, *help tragedy reach her good ending. Which i think would be a cool and **satisfying ending. *By helping I mean like give her hope that she'll be able to meet with her loved one and hell, maybe even let us be a friend to tragedys loved one and surprise tragedy by having them enter the theater or smthn. **because it sort of reference how 'we' "self insert" 'ourselves' into tragedys story and give it a good ending. In the end, like I said I do love the ending, its just when I first saw the ending my mind just went, "huh, it could've went this way instead". So, sort of wanted to hear your opinion on my opinion here. (Sorry for the long rant)
@@zooidiotgaming5784 I totally didn't saw the reveal of tragedy being pretty much the maiden and our character being the inspiration for the overlord coming. That got me by surprise! Perhaps the person behind the game didn't had such a happy ending in real life, so they made themselves one in this little game.
@@alsparkproductions7849 this was what I thought too. I've met quite a few people who devote themselves to a project or story due to losing someone, myself included. This was a beautiful game and it hit hard, but incredibly well.
it's kinda satisfying but it's such a cliche nowadays to say 'we're lgbt but nobody approves'. plenty of plot devices are cliches though. i guess that's the world we live in. A good story is released and everyone takes the tropes and plot devices and uses them to death.
if the ending of this game is sweet, the other games by this dev is a 20 ton delivery truck full of powered sugar... and thats why i love this dev edit: i actually havent played any of nomnomnami's games recently enough to remember if thats actually true but if i can trick someone into buying their other games (which they will inevitably enjoy) i think that would be a win. Plus i feel the exact same as that review shown in the beginning of the video and bought both a game i had already played for free on itch io (her tears were my light)and bought this game a long time ago to support them, although i only played it now so i could watch this video, so the more money i can help get funneled towards this dev the better.
@@Horseshoe_Crab For what it's worth, I stopped watching Mark's play through when I realized I wanted to play the game myself, and I just 100%ed it on Steam and it took me 100 minutes flat, so it's not edited down THAT much
I don't know why but I teared up and cried at the last verse of the song. Just how pure the love is between Tragedy and their lover. That Tragedy's love let's Tragedy be her, writing what she wants but also be able to bring her happiness and bring more light and life into their lives, writing happy endings for Tragedy. No matter if they share in misery they also will share in happy endings, together. And I'm a sucker for happy endings and I think hearing that last verse I just knew that Tragedy's lover was singing and knew they would be able to be happy, no matter what comes their way. Just Beautiful, over an hour of investment for that unexpected payoff. Magnificently beautiful.
The best part : if you don't get every single bad ending you wouldnt even see tragedy ending. And the closing theme ends at : "it's my misery for all eternity"
This song (and the game to an extent) definitely had Vocaloid vibes and I wonder if that was on purpose. The mood was similar to many of the vocaloid songs people made and the characters from both things sort of remind me of each other (probably because each one has characters that are distinctly associated with a color and I happened to listen to a lot of the tragic AMV's for Vocaloid). For me, the reference alluded to when times were more simple. I felt that much more drawn to TRAGEDY's story in the end because I could relate to the pain of growing apart from people and more simple times. Even though it didn't happen as tragically for me as it did for them, the pain of stuff like that is inevitable. And much like our protagonist shows, you learn that sometimes you have to work hard and persevere to make things work out despite the odds.
No when it said “For all you tragedies I’ll write happy endings” I was like we play as Comedy. We are the other half and then at the end I was like YES I knew it!
My favorite part is when you reset the game fully to replay, the canon explaination is comedy asks tragedy to start from the top and retell the story, which made me feel a lot better about restarting for the achievement
and something else i noticed is that it does do that at all the endings,but mianly features the color of the character you first chose (or maybe not,i cant remember)
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@@thatradfailure5197 Worse than just Bot. It's hateful content. So Botting that stuff really does not make any sense. Their account will get banned real fast with that kind of comments. but yea. Reported that one real fast.
@@greenbeamtheii1621 not all of them, but there are quite a few. The tropes get repetitive. I see it in a lot of Webtoons, the same things over and over-
actually... now that i think about i can't actually think of a single anime (or light novel) where that actually happens... i mean SAO ig, but that was a Fairy King, completely opposite. this statement is actually false... huh
It was nice to see that markiplier genuinely enjoyed this game. sometimes he sounds exasperated having to read so much dialogue, but I think this one was just sweet
Such a good title, i tell you. Rather mad at myself for not coming up with it sooner. Oh well, at least its been put to good use in a story such as this.
at some point i got distracted from the screen, and couldn't even tell which character is telling the story at the moment, because of all the colors. that's so cool~
same, i'm here at 11:56 pm about to go to bed after finishing this video, and i'm here trying not to cry over it since i hate crying before going to sleep 😭
it just uses cliche in a way that feels... natural. it uses cliche perfectly, and while i could predict the ending(s), i was still emotional at the very end. really beautiful.
@Good For Nutting people with adhd sometimes have trouble reading as they tend to miss details/connections, lose track of where they are “on the page” and by just getting distracted by other things including our fast paced thoughts nvm the gameplay 🤣
When mark said “my mother once told me to do my homework but i did not do it so I got lock in the basement and had no food for about two weeks in a row and I could not escape no matter what I tried to do I pride the door and tried to pick the lock and screamed for help but no one came for me and everything was getting dark and I was just so tired and I was so cold and the darkness crept though the crack in my door to claim my soul and dragged me kicking and screaming to the under world” it just made me think what the ####\beep
The tiny little detail, the "closed" sign on the theater at the end of the game, makes this really feel like a true ending, a complete one. Edit: HOLY ALMOST 2K LIKES
The end credit picture where it's the desk with papers on it made me realize that all the characters were fictional, even in their universe, almost made me cry.
@@regankappers tragedy and comedy love and hate aversions and attractions opposites yet intertwined one cant have one without the other so know this friend no matter the suffering no matter the pain together we can push through to our own happy endings there will always be people who care you dont know me and i dont know you yet still i care
Fun fact!: Your health at the final battle (mark's face cam was blocking it) is the number of endings you've collected. Since Mark had got all 41 when facing through it, he had 41 HP
I really love that someone else noticed that. It doesn’t say tragedy’s true ending because its officially an ending for the character we marked as tragedy but also an end to the tragedy that took place for the game to happen. Absolutely beautiful.
is tragedy's end based on a true story? maybe from the game creator's experience or something? I've been trying to find something online but I don't see anything.
@@orihallmark Apparently the creator had a contriverisal relationship earlier in her life which will lead us towards an argument about morality (and I will not discuss about). I believe Tragedy's true end is likely to be based off a real story, but despite the apparent "good" end where Tragedy is reunited with her lover in the final story... I think her earlier comments leading into the final story indicate her story didn't have a good ending.
i couldn't recall the amount of times i've rewatched this. it's *that* beautiful. that "take all my money" review was too relatable. this was (and always will be) my favorite series of bad endings. i never loved bad endings until this game from a year ago showed up.
I have a cute little fact here-the flower in Tragedy’s hair seems to be a crocus, which is one of the flowers representing sapphic love as Sappho herself wrote about them in her poems 🥰
The moment Markiplier pauses and looks at the camera when Tragedy calls him a masochist got me laughing audibly. Edit : thank you to imnotok45 and Game Seeker for giving the timestamp. Scroll down, it's there :D
This game was made for people like Mark. Even when told from the very beginning that you would only get bad endings, he'd still try everything to get a good ending. And more than that, a way to save everyone. I don't think he likes pain, I think he would face it to get to something beyond the pain. Something better. That doesn't seem like such a bad thing does it? To have hope, even when everything seems hopeless. And I think this game was made for people who don't believe in happy endings like me. I've been hurt and betrayed so many times, I've lost count. So, I'm very hard to befriend and get to know. I rarely let people in, because I don't want to be hurt again. I'd started to think that love doesn't really conquer all. I was wrong. It does. You just have to be brave and strong enough to make your own happy end, if you don't like the one handed to you. Fate is ours to choose...is it not?
thanks for this. I really needed to hear that, and this story drove it home. this feeling is why I love stories so much. they may be fiction, but they're true
1:25:39 I love how Mark was about to give his final opinion on the game, and when the singing started, He stopped talking immediately. It truly shows how much he loved this game, even before he saw the true ending. Edit: Also I'll mention he didn't say A THING during the song. He made sure the song was over before speaking.
He would do the same to every game which makes him an even more respectful gamer. Waiting till experience everything the game has to offer until he takes his part
I like how, at the final bit, "Tragedy's End" can also be interpeted as the end of tragedy in the game since every single character got a happy ending they were satisfied with.
@@staticchimera44 merely as the revealing of “tragedy’s” story and tragedy getting their happy ending. Easy to miss the detail that it’s truly an end to all tragedy. So basically could be interpreted as the character’s ending or the ending of that emotional feeling itself
I love the song in general. The way it starts with no vocals as a welcome. Then for the bad ending it ends with only “tragedy” then the true one with “happiness” side of the song and it ends with Ive missed instead of I miss is just so amazing even if it’s a small detail. I rewatched and still love that fact amazing game and will rewatch again.
I’ve discovered who the real antagonist of this game is; A. The stupid old man that keeps saying that the maiden was brainwashed. B. The demon guards Edit: Thanks for the likes
He's just like; "God.. God damn. This happens to me all the time." *Immediately switches voice.* Gotta admit, if Tragedy just looked identical to the player that voice would work almost perfectly. And.. That'd also lead to a more insane ending, and another bad ending, because that'd be oddly fitting. Almost in a slightly morbid way. In the end tragedy was just a future version of yourself somehow. You're just in the loop forever now. Just as you're about to get a happy ending, SIKE- Fitting end for Bad End theater. Kind of? A bit too morbid for.. Anyone's tastes, really. But naturally, that would never work for what the story was actually going for. Honestly I think a few games have already done that, though.. Quite a few.. (INB3 little nightmares 2)
The casual and good representation this story has always puts a smile on my face. The story is touching and beautiful, and the gay representation with the maiden and the overlord, and the nonbinary rep with the demon underling. It’s genuinely such a step forward and warms my heart.
Why would you self insert your own shit into the game like that? There is no "gay representation" with the maiden and the overlord, they just appear friendly, not all friendly characters are romantically attracted to each other. Tragedy and its partner have an implied relationship though, and are depicted as women, you could have said that instead.
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles Because people self inserting into places that are completely unrelated is what drives most people away from supporting small groups. Like when a random character in some series has something rainbow colored and some idiot goes "XYZ said trans rights!!". That's the kind of thing that make people dislike your cause.
The writing for this game is really good, when you figure out what the story represents you can look back and see all the hints that allude to the truth.
I was extremely impressed with the writing early on. It felt like story-boarding your own story, but turning it into an experience, meanwhile addressing futility, peer pressure, expectations, going against the grain; as well as hope, tenacity, and whatever the other two terms the characters were assigned in the boss battle. The concept of tragedy and comedy in tandem like yin and yang, a direct allusion to the relationship Tragedy had with their partner, despite their families/backgrounds forcing them apart. The line about "we always loved the stories where true love conquers all" fucking broke me. Especially knowing their fate. I truly want to support this artist/artists and follow whatever they're doing next. Plus, the song during the credits. fuck
The misery all felt so normal, that's how life just is, barely any emotional reaction, but the end, the very end, that got me sobbing. It was beautiful. Thanks for playing this through, Mark.
Why am I crying at the ending like I figured after seeing the letters we played as comedy and that we were here to reunite with tragedy, but I wasn't expecting it to be so sweet and adorable and gay. This game is fricking amazing. I laughed, I cried, it moved me, Bob.
Everyone's talking about the underling or the relationship between the overlord and the maiden/tragedy and comedy but the hero has such good writing. To not know what will get you accepted or successful and force your future into misery and confusion because of other people's ideals and beliefs. Think about it, the only time the hero is doing what he wants is when he's making a costume. Either the maiden, the crowd or his "duty and legacy" seem to always decide for him beforehand. I bet a lot of people can relate to that.
A lot of guys can relate to that. It's subtle, but there. You have a duty to yourself, and what makes you happy. Being yourself is the best way to be, your best self.
the endings that got me the most were the ones where the hero fails without dying, and he questions what being a hero truly means. it reminds me of one of my favorite sayings: “you either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
He’s happening making costumes right? Hear me out, he makes wedding dresses for the maiden and overlord. The Underling and be the ring barer or marry the two and they can also get an outfit tailored by the Hero
@@ProtoTerra This has been getting worse than I've seen it get in a long while. I hate that Mark and others have to deal with this, and I really don't like that there seems so little that TH-cam's been willing/able to do.
At first when it ended I though jeez that is a really cheesy ending, but then after a moment it set in and i started crying. Absolutely amazing. Unrelated, but the amount of combinations for the different behaviors and characters is exactly 65536.
"My mother once told me to do my homework but i did not do it so i got locked in the basement and had no food for about two weeks in a row and i could not escape no matter what i tried to do i pryed at the door and tried to pick the lock and screamed for help but no one came for me and every thing was getting dark and i was just so tired and i was so cold then the darkness crept through the crack in my door to claim my soul and dragged me kicking and screaming to the under world" --- Mark 2022
@@coffeeman882 I know right? Smh these guys have never used this rhyme to select something randomly? Thought it was as common as Eeney Meeney Miney Mo...
Something that I realized: The maiden's (the "maiden" at the end) face when she hugged the "overlord" was showing her crying but with a smile on her face (the exact face that the mask shown when she was Tragedy). I think this symbolizes that her tragedy led her to her true ending
16:04, 1:15:36, and 1:30:06 all have the same face. i love the consistency of this, it's these small details that really help the characters shine through and reveal their true selves regardless of the form they are presented in
Okay this makes more sense now, I thought at the part as tragedys mask fell off, why maiden? Could also be overlord, you know, they are a demon and thats what comes to my mind that a demon would do tragic stories rather than a maid. But I guess it does not matter that much, because the faces of comedy and tragedy are not really the overlord and maiden, they just represent it like in the story
The moment of clarity that the player was "Comedy" hit with the final line of the credits song and I was eagerly waiting for Mark to figure it out since it didn't seem like the game was going to tell you.
IT'S SO COOL how every perspective has a different colour tone in the artwork (apart from the true ending when every color was used together) also it's hilarious how mark got all the letters in the opposite order from what he was supposed to get them in
@@veracaide1373 well that's the point of the story. The fiction of the bad end theater was inspired by the real events tragedy went through, and who knows that may be a layer deeper where the whole game of fiction was based on the real life experiences of the creator. And honestly it makes sense after seeing the ending and looking back on it. The maiden and the overlord very clearly had a very special relationship and one that was always doomed to fail because of the community around them. The townspeople can't accept that the maiden would befriend a demon, in most endings the hero doesn't really believe or does nothing to really help the situation and the demons who try to start an uprising don't allow the relationship to exist even if all of that is circumvented.
@@alecbormia4523 i’m aware lmao i watched the video. I’m just saying that as someone who doesn’t often ship people i was shipping the maiden and the overlord from the start.
Probably because while they have a romance factor there’s also redemption arc for the demons and the overlord also for the hero every character has a redemption arc and it’s played masterfully
Yo Lixian killed me with that sudden, "Maybe if you finished college..." snap out of nowhere Also that, "I love you" at the end caught me right in the feels!!
That guy that put the timestamp all the way up there is an idiot. For one - no one can reach it; and two: its all wrong. He's wrong. Here have my timestamp instead: 14:00 Wholesoplier😇 - Bigbadplier 14:09 😈 - Bigbabyplier👶😭 14:20
@@alsparkproductions7849 probably about the cliche hero saving the maiden who was kidnapped by an evil demon overlord and also the underling is there. It’s a very cliched story premise, but there are little nuances and character complexities which makes this story more unique
Tragedy's ending at the very end is pretty much my entire story, losing someone in a way I would not like to say, to starting something that would eventually lead us together after a few years. Truly warms my heart
This one killed me inside, especially toward the ending. Relationship not being supported by family and community hits close to home. My anxious and deprecating thoughts consistently making me expect and imagine the worst ending for my boyfriend and I. But despite these worries, he's always there. Always working to fight my dark thoughts. I think he's my happy ending.
Aw I can absolutely relate with you with this. I had the same thoughts and expecting the worst attitude for the longest time when I was dating my ex. The relationship ended for reasons outside of the issues you’re highlighting, but regardless during that time we were dating it really felt like it was us vs the world, especially because they’d been brought up in such a shitty household and I had really bad anxiety about how my family would feel about our relationship. It was a really sweet albeit tumultuous time in my life, and this game outlines the kinda emotions felt in such a time oh so perfectly. If anything I just wish I embraced the highs and lows as much as I could when they happened; it was all beautiful looking back at it. Regardless, I wish you and your partner all the best in your lives. Love is a magical thing and I’m so happy for you guys :)
@@EmilysLovelyBakery theatre is often represented with 2 masks, one called tragedy and the other called comedy, since tragedy is a character in this game and it also takes place at a theater it can be guessed the character tragedy speaks to at the end of this video is probably called comedy.
@@RoseDeleca Not only that but during the ending, they say the MC (In this case Comedy) said while talking to tragedy that they were intent on making things a Good ending so that's another way to show that they are Comedy.
This game is truly an emotional trip and i also enjoy Mark narration throughout this game and the credit song is just the icing on the cake. Truly 10/10
I'd forgotten about this game, then the recommendations suggested it to me again. I have to say, this whole thing was amazing in such a simple package. And yes Mark, I loved the voices you gave to them.
What I love about this is at the end: "Tragedy ends" This is in both a literal and figurative cense as it was the end of Tragey's story and the end of the tragedy. Or maybe I'm looking into this too much
I feel like this game teaches a very good lesson. There can never be a truly tragic story without happiness. Otherwise the tragedy loses its meaning. There can never be a happy ending without tragedy. Otherwise the happiness is undriven and unappreciated. Poetically, the stories that lead to the happy ending are tragic and only the tragedy of the death of the characters and sadness of the stories do the two find each other and end happily
I'm unsure whether this is a reference or not but I do know that it's true in a way. All the tragedies in the world, couldn't mean anything with happiness. The same is true if the roles were reversed as well! And now I feel I've stated something blatantly obvious. Rip, bad ending.
Not really trying to reference this, but you ever seen that twilight zone episode, basically a murderer dies and is sent to heaven, he is given everything he wants, wins all the games he plays and gets all the women he wants, eventually he gets bored and dispondant, he asks the “angels” what hell is like and if he can go there, the angel reply: who’s to say they’re not already there
This is why I love Mark, He gaves smaller game creators the attention they need to keep making their games and updating them, The same said about Poppy Playtime, I'm sure not many people would even know what Poppy playtime was if not for Markiplier, Keep up the good work!
Nami actually has a pretty decently sized following! Her work is amazing and I deeply love all of them. She's a fantastic storyteller and creates lovely characters. I really reccomend checking out her other works!
@@Lulu-qp6oh she doesn't have a decent following any more 😅 i'm pretty sure all her social media is gone (except her patreon maybe??) after the grooming allegations came to the surface
this is a masterpiece, it portrays different realities we have to face. as a person who literally portrays everything i see read or watch yeah, i found this an extremely good game definitely 11.9/10 recommended, leaving my thoughts here before i find my bad ending.
@@bluerivers9865 I've never "Pretty cried", so... I guess I'm just an ugly crier. Though, I suppose that's because I have such a will that I don't cry unless it's just too much to bear. Perhaps, however, there have been times when I've shed a single tear, whilst barely holding myself together. Those are the only moments when it's climactic. But, unfortunately, the only time it was not dramatic or fitting to do so, maybe even funny in a sense, was when I was in middle school. I had been walking to my seat, eager to eat my deliciously smelling food, when the antagonist of most of my tales, my "school bully", had tripped me on my way to my chair. I fell, of course, and my meal had flown from their spots on my tray into the air, and fallen, almost comically, onto my head. My hat, which had been flung off of my head due to the force and speed of my fall catching the brim of my baseball cap, had then landed upside down on my tray, staining the top in an extremely obvious place. I got up onto my knees, placed my hands on my lap, and barely held it together as a single tear fell from my cheek onto my hand. Now that I look back, however, it appears that this tale wasn't as funny as I had initially thought anymore... Well, I apologize for rambling.
the credit song was a really nice way to reveal it too. I was already enjoying the song and then once the second half kicked in, the revelation hit. Like, oh damn no wonder one letter mentions their love always listening to their entire stories till the end while another speaks about them convincing them to try a good ending *and then* you only unlock the final ending by listening to every story and trying to change it to a good ending. If you exit the theatre early then you are just another random audience member. A stranger who grew weary of the bad endings. You only get the truest ending by doing what their truest love would do: stay to finish and then make it happier.
When you think about it, nobody here was evil...or at least evil without reason. The Underling was manipulated by his 'friends', presumably because the Overlord was a bad boss, who in turn just wanted to live a peaceful life. The Hero chooses unwise decisions at times....ironically more than the other 3, because he lived a false reality, taking "The clothes make the man" all too literally. The Maiden was just bored. The villagers burnt her in fear of the demons...actually come to think of it, it was because of the overlord's father. So technically he was responsible for the conflict in the story. Tragedy? Why, she's just making and telling stories. A game that gives you a depressing concept and yet being one of the sweetest games I've ever seen, absolutely heartwarming. This was a masterpiece of a game.
Tragedy was able to make it sweet because of the same traits assigned to the characters in the boss battle. It's like Hamlet meets Romeo and Juliet meets Wizard of Oz
Hey, the game only uses they/them for the underling! This is a good analysis and I can tell you really enjoy the game, so I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but with the LGBT theme of it I think it's important to respect the proper pronouns for the characters in it as well
I fucking love the storytelling in this game, I love how the game is practically screaming the true story at you, but you only truly understand it when you get to tragedys end I also love what the characters represent, the maiden and overlord representing tragedy and comedy(I assume that's what her name is), and the hero and underling representing the opposing sides trying to separate the two, whether it be by the hero being sent on a quest to save the maiden by the "evil demon overlord" or by treason and assassination(I mean if you're dead you cant really be with your partner) it's so good and such beautiful storytelling, definitely going to be a game I'm going to enjoy for awhile
@@cagayakegirlz i was never asking for recommendations and i already really like this game + you have a dr reference in your username/neg + L + ratio(/hj)
Also can we respect the fact while the credits played Mark was talking but as soon as the lyrics started he went quiet; allowing us to listen to such a great song.
The person who made this game made a wonderful story, it would be great to see this developer go on to make bigger games or just simply continue making games in their own style.
This game reminds me of "No-one has to die" it's basically a lighter version of the game where... no one had to die. And it gets solved via the same time fuckery that caused everyone to die anyways. Except this story actually MEANS something more human than time fuckery, it's about Tragedy that makes sense, natural, and it hits closer to home because of it... and the cutesy artstyle really adds on it for some reason. Thank you Mark.
The reason the art adds to it is, IMO, the fact that it grounds us more to the game. We feel more, human, humane, around cutsy things like dogs than horrifiying demons. Would you sympathize with a dog or a demon more?
Before the last conversation with tragedy and seeing her end I was almost disappointed. I really felt like something was missing, something that tragedy's end provided. I've noticed that intentionally creating that feeling that one loose end is yet to be tied up is incredibly hard to do, as is creating a feeling of closure when you put that feeling into your audience. Incredible story over all, and congratulations to the writer for pulling it off so well.
I was kinda the opposite. The ending for me was the most disappointing part. She just... appears. As your main character that you've been playing as. Doesn't really feel like there's any stakes to anything. Loved the game up until that point though. Props to the writer for almost making it work
@@somarafa9998 I agree. I was hoping for something like Tradgey takes off her mask and relieves she's just like the player and then maybe we put in a comedy mask or something. The ending felt kind of... wrong. She just appeared.
The moment I read "For all your tragedies, I'll write happy endings." I immediately knew that you the player are Comedy. That realisation was such a beautiful moment that made the ending that much sweeter
my lover had lung cancer...they survived but it was a close call. I can't say I understand your pain but I want to remind you that it will be okay. They would want you to be strong. And they love you don't forget it. Time heals everything.
That was honestly such a gorgeously written story, with lovely art and music. Mark's narration made it even better, as usual. Amazing job to the devs!!
1:02:01 wow i feel a bit guilty seeing as i was tempted to leave too! I was wondering if the story would continue to develop or if it would just be different perspectives.
It’s interesting how although the game seems so positively perceived, there isn’t much playthroughs from any other youtubers whatsoever, hope to see some other reactions as well.
I started crying when the "Good End" showed the Maiden and Overlord living together in the castle and I didn't stop until "Tragedy's End". I could tell early on that there was clearly a Sapphic romance intended between the Maiden and the Overlord and it gave me such a genuine boost of serotonin to see.
when i saw the ennding i was like YES! I CALLED IT!!!! and the scene where they showed the maiden and the overlord THEY ARE MARRIED YOUR HONOUR TTTT I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
@@augustuzmoon3814 same. Ive never been interested in them because they felt so forced and shoved into the show for representation rather than for the story. But this game is the first time ive ever shipped a lgbtq couple they were so cute together. I hope that doesnt sound homophobic ive just never seen a lgbtq relationship done right.
Mark shouldn't have apologized for his own narrative, his voices are really what made the video for me, I loved this game, the ending was really sweet, thank you for playing it Mark. :)
I loved his Tragedy voice, the overly dramatic flair adds to the fact that Tragedy is playing the role as the villain, perhaps even if they don’t want to.
I've been hearing the ending song for Bad End Theater for probably a year or so now on Spotify, and I've always enjoyed it, so seeing this video, I knew I had to watch it, and I'm blown away by everything. The creator did an amazing job on this game, and you did a great job sharing it, as always.
I love bad end theater so much! I hope to see more from the developer. I'm a sucker for bad endings but also endings like this. So heartwarming after all that tragedy
Love, how it's also color coded. Like each protagonist has their own, and when they meet, they add to the others color scheme. With the true endings having every four of them.
Oh that's why the True Endings looked so different! I noticed the fact they obviously each have their own colors but not that they added to eachother after meeting. Thanks for bringing that up
tysm for this observation, i didnt notice it before
Ikr? When I saw colored ending for the first time (not true ending yet) I was like "heeey this is important for damn sure"
IT SUCH A COOL DETAIL WOW
mmm i was super suspicious about the last slide in the credits with the pink sky and purple hill 👀
Game: "You must be as much of a masochist as me!"
Mark: *"And I took that personally."*
I cackled so hard when I saw that xD
EXACTLY
Lmao didnt think I'd find Toto the epic bryan player here
WAIT WHERE
@@pinkiesbrew- around 1:16:28 ish!
They did that ending well. A slightly disappointed, “that’s how it ends?” good ending, And then an actually satisfying good ending.
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Not even bots ??? Damn, those are rare.
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Unfortunately, I'm here to ruin that. POST !
Now dont get me wrong I LOVE!!!! the ending of the game and I agree with your statements but I feel like there is a miss oppurtunity with tragedys ending, let me explain. I feel like just like how the nameless main character that we play self insert into tragedys story and turn it into a good ending, the developer could have had us *actually* self insert *ourselves* into the game and like, *help tragedy reach her good ending. Which i think would be a cool and **satisfying ending.
*By helping I mean like give her hope that she'll be able to meet with her loved one and hell, maybe even let us be a friend to tragedys loved one and surprise tragedy by having them enter the theater or smthn.
**because it sort of reference how 'we' "self insert" 'ourselves' into tragedys story and give it a good ending.
In the end, like I said I do love the ending, its just when I first saw the ending my mind just went, "huh, it could've went this way instead". So, sort of wanted to hear your opinion on my opinion here.
(Sorry for the long rant)
@@zooidiotgaming5784 I totally didn't saw the reveal of tragedy being pretty much the maiden and our character being the inspiration for the overlord coming. That got me by surprise! Perhaps the person behind the game didn't had such a happy ending in real life, so they made themselves one in this little game.
@@alsparkproductions7849 this was what I thought too. I've met quite a few people who devote themselves to a project or story due to losing someone, myself included. This was a beautiful game and it hit hard, but incredibly well.
it's kinda satisfying but it's such a cliche nowadays to say 'we're lgbt but nobody approves'.
plenty of plot devices are cliches though. i guess that's the world we live in.
A good story is released and everyone takes the tropes and plot devices and uses them to death.
First 30 seconds of the game: “WARNING: BLOOD, VIOLENCE, AND STRONG LANGUAGE”
The ending: Literally the most heartwarming thing I’ve ever seen
It did say that it meant to be lighthearted so, it makes sense
They're kinda adorable little peoples
if the ending of this game is sweet, the other games by this dev is a 20 ton delivery truck full of powered sugar... and thats why i love this dev
edit: i actually havent played any of nomnomnami's games recently enough to remember if thats actually true but if i can trick someone into buying their other games (which they will inevitably enjoy) i think that would be a win. Plus i feel the exact same as that review shown in the beginning of the video and bought both a game i had already played for free on itch io (her tears were my light)and bought this game a long time ago to support them, although i only played it now so i could watch this video, so the more money i can help get funneled towards this dev the better.
@@cinnamoncat8950 i played "Her tears were my light" recently. It was good!
wait till you see Oneshot
This is actually one of the most charming short indie games I've seen recently. You can tell this was made very passionately.
Short.....
@@Horseshoe_Crab 1 32 is short
@@gwenzy750 sorry if I messed up somehow with just a small comment. (Also it was edited down from original time)
@@Horseshoe_Crab For what it's worth, I stopped watching Mark's play through when I realized I wanted to play the game myself, and I just 100%ed it on Steam and it took me 100 minutes flat, so it's not edited down THAT much
@@LilacVenus yeah I know it’s not super long but an indie game but for a small indie game I thought it was long. (Hope that clears up my reply)
The song thooo. "share in my missery for all eternity"
"For all your tragadies I'll write happy endings"
Beautiful
I don't know why but I teared up and cried at the last verse of the song. Just how pure the love is between Tragedy and their lover. That Tragedy's love let's Tragedy be her, writing what she wants but also be able to bring her happiness and bring more light and life into their lives, writing happy endings for Tragedy. No matter if they share in misery they also will share in happy endings, together.
And I'm a sucker for happy endings and I think hearing that last verse I just knew that Tragedy's lover was singing and knew they would be able to be happy, no matter what comes their way.
Just Beautiful, over an hour of investment for that unexpected payoff. Magnificently beautiful.
Thats what i said
The best part : if you don't get every single bad ending you wouldnt even see tragedy ending. And the closing theme ends at : "it's my misery for all eternity"
This song (and the game to an extent) definitely had Vocaloid vibes and I wonder if that was on purpose. The mood was similar to many of the vocaloid songs people made and the characters from both things sort of remind me of each other (probably because each one has characters that are distinctly associated with a color and I happened to listen to a lot of the tragic AMV's for Vocaloid). For me, the reference alluded to when times were more simple. I felt that much more drawn to TRAGEDY's story in the end because I could relate to the pain of growing apart from people and more simple times. Even though it didn't happen as tragically for me as it did for them, the pain of stuff like that is inevitable. And much like our protagonist shows, you learn that sometimes you have to work hard and persevere to make things work out despite the odds.
No when it said “For all you tragedies I’ll write happy endings” I was like we play as Comedy. We are the other half and then at the end I was like YES I knew it!
My favorite part is when you reset the game fully to replay, the canon explaination is comedy asks tragedy to start from the top and retell the story, which made me feel a lot better about restarting for the achievement
That's so sweet 🥺
Holy fucking shit. What a story. And for it to narrated and played by markiplier was just icing on the cake. 10/10 definitely recommend
Yeah, mark's voice makes watching this video even more amazing then the game is
Was a really good story yeah.
No. This is an 11/10
@an apple ur opinion is wrong 🔥🔥🔥
@@anapple6912 "3/10 in my opinion"
-fatherless kid
Anyone else see that when a true ending is found, the color scheme combines all the colors of each of the storylines.
Wow- you are so observant it's amazing :0
@@inkcat3189 sarcasm?
and something else i noticed is that it does do that at all the endings,but mianly features the color of the character you first chose (or maybe not,i cant remember)
Man, that’s deep
@@Virgolish you're completely right!!
1:16:33
Tragedy: "You must be as much of a masochist as me!"
Markiplier: " *deep stare at the camera* "
He did a gulp too. It was great
@@nomad7643 report those. It's a bot, it needs to be reported. That's why it was using the glitched text, to get through filters like the bot it is. Don't reply
Even the game knows that Mark is a masochist lol
@@thatradfailure5197 Worse than just Bot. It's hateful content. So Botting that stuff really does not make any sense. Their account will get banned real fast with that kind of comments. but yea. Reported that one real fast.
@Savetion 100k TH-cam GOD KY5 clone
"You are a beautiful young girl. Demon overlords apparently love capturing those"
Sounds like every light novel anime ever
Isn't it totally opposite now days ? It's always an OP Demon lord protagonist and an evil church
@@nero5178 yeah, and the entire story is about a cliche “Hot man good guy” thing, right?
@@FluidityContents not really.
@@greenbeamtheii1621 not all of them, but there are quite a few. The tropes get repetitive. I see it in a lot of Webtoons, the same things over and over-
actually... now that i think about i can't actually think of a single anime (or light novel) where that actually happens... i mean SAO ig, but that was a Fairy King, completely opposite. this statement is actually false... huh
It was nice to see that markiplier genuinely enjoyed this game. sometimes he sounds exasperated having to read so much dialogue, but I think this one was just sweet
It kinda is similar in structure to In Space With Markiplier
"Tragedy's end." That's really poetic. What a cool game.
What a neat, zany, cooky, wiley, wacky and possibly bodunkadacious little game
Kinda reminds me of the backstory of FNAF, but just less harsh
Such a good title, i tell you.
Rather mad at myself for not coming up with it sooner. Oh well, at least its been put to good use in a story such as this.
2:46
Me, Tragedy:
I love how the closer you get to the "true ending", the more the colors of the different characters mixes up.
i didnt even notice, thanx for the detail :D
at some point i got distracted from the screen, and couldn't even tell which character is telling the story at the moment, because of all the colors. that's so cool~
I hadn't noticed that! you're so right!
@Instagram User can you NOT be edgy
@@taurinebeast61 Just report it.
Tragedy: "You must be as much of a masochist as me."
Mark: * briefly stares at camera knowing that its actually true *
He knew that he got exposed, lol
Lmao I feel like all the Getting Over It and Baldi Basic's moments came rushing back in that split second.
Have a burger ur comment made me smile :) 🍔
@@arionyoutube your food is a nice burger
He is NOT a masochist!1
The end music at the credits honestly made me cry, it’s beautiful, so is this game
same, i'm here at 11:56 pm about to go to bed after finishing this video, and i'm here trying not to cry over it since i hate crying before going to sleep 😭
God i'm just crying i can't
the full soundtrack is on spotify!
Yess I love it!
I literally had to find and save this song. Such a pure song for a cute game 😭
I'm not sure I've ever encountered a game that felt so cliche, yet, simultaneously, deeply original.
it just uses cliche in a way that feels... natural. it uses cliche perfectly, and while i could predict the ending(s), i was still emotional at the very end. really beautiful.
well said
Cliche is cliche for a reason. Powerful tools in writing.
I think that's called being "campy" lol
@@tylerholley9823 lmao, I suppose so.
“Tragedy attacks with a TEEEEEERIBLE FATE!” is easily the best part of marks commentary
timestamp?
@@este_marco 1:22:23
Unrelated, but 43:55 - 44:01 is gold
@@IamSaralinka yesss
Reminded me of megamind.. “AND EVIL RETURNES WITH A BACKHAND!”
Mark : cries because he can’t read
Lixian : “maybe if you finished college”
Lixian roasting Mark 🤣
Yup... We watched the video too...
@Good For Nutting people with adhd sometimes have trouble reading as they tend to miss details/connections, lose track of where they are “on the page” and by just getting distracted by other things including our fast paced thoughts nvm the gameplay 🤣
hit him where it hurts
@Beast v2🔥 if they are then your gonna be to lmao but 10x worse torture
When mark said “my mother once told me to do my homework but i did not do it so I got lock in the basement and had no food for about two weeks in a row and I could not escape no matter what I tried to do I pride the door and tried to pick the lock and screamed for help but no one came for me and everything was getting dark and I was just so tired and I was so cold and the darkness crept though the crack in my door to claim my soul and dragged me kicking and screaming to the under world” it just made me think what the ####\beep
Lol
thank you for your pain staking service
It made me think of binding of Isaac
it was foreshadowing for the maiden getting locked in the dungeon lol
Game: “What would you say to them?”
Markiplier: Says his intro.
@Blue 🔥 weren't you on Jakes channel saying stuff like this as well?
@@CodyMauldin it’s just a bot! You can report it if you want
Oh okay then thank
@@CodyMauldin interacting with bots apparently causes them to go to other channels you watch.
Moral of the story;
DONT INTERACT WITH THE BOTS
Got it thanks
I love how no matter what Mark does he never escapes being called a masochist
Wherever he runs, however long he hides… HE will always be there…. The comments calling him a masochist!
@@illiterate3285 Don't forget us girls dude, WE will always be there.
1:16:27
* stares at the camera *
That's because he is
The tiny little detail, the "closed" sign on the theater at the end of the game, makes this really feel like a true ending, a complete one.
Edit: HOLY ALMOST 2K LIKES
You also can't play anymore after that unless you reset the game. So it really does leave some finality to the ending
Tbh I didn’t like the battle with tragedy because of how much it assimilated undertale true pacifist run
The end credit picture where it's the desk with papers on it made me realize that all the characters were fictional, even in their universe, almost made me cry.
- "Tragedy's End" feels like it also means something more. "Tragedies end". No suffering lasts forever.
It might also mean Tragedy ends for the 4 MCs. Either interpretation is really cool!
I thought that too! Choose your own adventure, tells you to choose your own adventure... aww
That’s how I took it too… and now I’m crying… because sometimes that’s really hard to believe…
@@regankappers tragedy and comedy
love and hate
aversions and attractions
opposites yet intertwined
one cant have one without the other so know this friend
no matter the suffering
no matter the pain
together we can push through to our own happy endings
there will always be people who care
you dont know me and i dont know you yet still i care
@@rosiegaymer omg where is this from
Fun fact!: Your health at the final battle (mark's face cam was blocking it) is the number of endings you've collected. Since Mark had got all 41 when facing through it, he had 41 HP
41 likes.. it’s perfect
Omg I was gonna lile the comment but I'll keep at 41
115 likes: YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO CUT ME OFF
So what happened if you run out of HP?
@@StarMisura You get your bad ending, you just lose the battle
"tragedy's end"
a truly fitting double meaning of an ending for an equally as artistic game. This is a true masterpiece. also cudos on the voices lol
Hits you right in the feels
I really love that someone else noticed that. It doesn’t say tragedy’s true ending because its officially an ending for the character we marked as tragedy but also an end to the tragedy that took place for the game to happen. Absolutely beautiful.
is tragedy's end based on a true story? maybe from the game creator's experience or something? I've been trying to find something online but I don't see anything.
@@orihallmark Apparently the creator had a contriverisal relationship earlier in her life which will lead us towards an argument about morality (and I will not discuss about). I believe Tragedy's true end is likely to be based off a real story, but despite the apparent "good" end where Tragedy is reunited with her lover in the final story... I think her earlier comments leading into the final story indicate her story didn't have a good ending.
@@underscoredfrisk ah I see, that really sucks :(
i couldn't recall the amount of times i've rewatched this. it's *that* beautiful. that "take all my money" review was too relatable. this was (and always will be) my favorite series of bad endings. i never loved bad endings until this game from a year ago showed up.
I have a cute little fact here-the flower in Tragedy’s hair seems to be a crocus, which is one of the flowers representing sapphic love as Sappho herself wrote about them in her poems 🥰
so she does love the maiden!!
I love that :,) this game is so cute, and the metaphor makes so much sense now that I think about it.
OH MY GOD THATS SO ADORABLE
That's so sweet 😳💕
eyo
The moment Markiplier pauses and looks at the camera when Tragedy calls him a masochist got me laughing audibly.
Edit : thank you to imnotok45 and Game Seeker for giving the timestamp. Scroll down, it's there :D
And then Tragedy's lover showed up
@@galaxyjam3742 *And everyone clapped*
Same lol
That moment was great. Btw, in b4 someone asks for the timestamp.
@@zelg.5551 i genuinely clapped
Most people when faced with only bad endings: I’ll never give up trying to get the happy ending I desire!
Mark: you have no idea how BONEHEADED I AM!
Two sides, same coin.
This game was made for people like Mark. Even when told from the very beginning that you would only get bad endings, he'd still try everything to get a good ending. And more than that, a way to save everyone. I don't think he likes pain, I think he would face it to get to something beyond the pain. Something better. That doesn't seem like such a bad thing does it? To have hope, even when everything seems hopeless.
And I think this game was made for people who don't believe in happy endings like me. I've been hurt and betrayed so many times, I've lost count. So, I'm very hard to befriend and get to know. I rarely let people in, because I don't want to be hurt again. I'd started to think that love doesn't really conquer all.
I was wrong. It does. You just have to be brave and strong enough to make your own happy end, if you don't like the one handed to you. Fate is ours to choose...is it not?
Hope you have been doing well
thanks for this. I really needed to hear that, and this story drove it home. this feeling is why I love stories so much. they may be fiction, but they're true
1:25:39
I love how Mark was about to give his final opinion on the game, and when the singing started, He stopped talking immediately. It truly shows how much he loved this game, even before he saw the true ending.
Edit: Also I'll mention he didn't say A THING during the song. He made sure the song was over before speaking.
Honestly loved that part as well. It's such a small gesture but shows how much he respects the effort put into the game.
I know right, just giving the spotlight to the song out of respect
There are so many people on this platform who would have talked over it, and not really cared. Markiplier is a class act on a whole 'nother level.
He would do the same to every game which makes him an even more respectful gamer. Waiting till experience everything the game has to offer until he takes his part
I just appreciate it because the singing is as nice.
You really know it’s a great and heartfelt game when Mark is deeply into finding the characters’ voices.
I like how, at the final bit, "Tragedy's End" can also be interpeted as the end of tragedy in the game since every single character got a happy ending they were satisfied with.
Wait is there any other way to interpret that?
@@staticchimera44 merely as the revealing of “tragedy’s” story and tragedy getting their happy ending. Easy to miss the detail that it’s truly an end to all tragedy. So basically could be interpreted as the character’s ending or the ending of that emotional feeling itself
@@silentreaper5805 Ahhh I see. I always saw it as just Tragedy's character end but that makes sense.
I love the song in general. The way it starts with no vocals as a welcome. Then for the bad ending it ends with only “tragedy” then the true one with “happiness” side of the song and it ends with Ive missed instead of I miss is just so amazing even if it’s a small detail. I rewatched and still love that fact amazing game and will rewatch again.
Mark while playing this: Demons aren't so bad
Also Mark: *Ripping and tearing in Doom*
I’ve discovered who the real antagonist of this game is; A. The stupid old man that keeps saying that the maiden was brainwashed. B. The demon guards
Edit: Thanks for the likes
You could say... the community?
Yes
Seems like truly ignorance was the antagonist all along
I mean……. The antagonist could be the player. Forcing the characters to suffer over and over again.
@@itsthejavavoid But if it weren't for the player, the characters would've never gotten their true endings
The look on marks face when he realized the voice he had given to tragedy did not quite match what was behind the mask 😂
that's exactly what I was thinking lol
He's just like; "God.. God damn. This happens to me all the time." *Immediately switches voice.*
Gotta admit, if Tragedy just looked identical to the player that voice would work almost perfectly.
And.. That'd also lead to a more insane ending, and another bad ending, because that'd be oddly fitting. Almost in a slightly morbid way.
In the end tragedy was just a future version of yourself somehow. You're just in the loop forever now. Just as you're about to get a happy ending, SIKE-
Fitting end for Bad End theater. Kind of? A bit too morbid for.. Anyone's tastes, really. But naturally, that would never work for what the story was actually going for.
Honestly I think a few games have already done that, though.. Quite a few..
(INB3 little nightmares 2)
@@grodygibsonlcd8038 sweet ending. Not morbid. In meh opinion
id like to think that tragedy had a voice modifer, so that we wouldnt know her true identity by her voice
holy you're right
The casual and good representation this story has always puts a smile on my face. The story is touching and beautiful, and the gay representation with the maiden and the overlord, and the nonbinary rep with the demon underling. It’s genuinely such a step forward and warms my heart.
Why would you self insert your own shit into the game like that? There is no "gay representation" with the maiden and the overlord, they just appear friendly, not all friendly characters are romantically attracted to each other. Tragedy and its partner have an implied relationship though, and are depicted as women, you could have said that instead.
@@_korbo_did you watched the video? 😂😂😂😂
@@_korbo_why are you so pissy
@@fukyoutubestupidfuckinghandles Because people self inserting into places that are completely unrelated is what drives most people away from supporting small groups.
Like when a random character in some series has something rainbow colored and some idiot goes "XYZ said trans rights!!". That's the kind of thing that make people dislike your cause.
@_korbo_ with all due respect, can you fucking not /j
The writing for this game is really good, when you figure out what the story represents you can look back and see all the hints that allude to the truth.
I was extremely impressed with the writing early on. It felt like story-boarding your own story, but turning it into an experience, meanwhile addressing futility, peer pressure, expectations, going against the grain; as well as hope, tenacity, and whatever the other two terms the characters were assigned in the boss battle. The concept of tragedy and comedy in tandem like yin and yang, a direct allusion to the relationship Tragedy had with their partner, despite their families/backgrounds forcing them apart. The line about "we always loved the stories where true love conquers all" fucking broke me. Especially knowing their fate. I truly want to support this artist/artists and follow whatever they're doing next.
Plus, the song during the credits. fuck
"you must be as much of a masochist as me!"
*mark stares in discontent at the audience, knowing what everyone is thinking.*
The misery all felt so normal, that's how life just is, barely any emotional reaction, but the end, the very end, that got me sobbing. It was beautiful. Thanks for playing this through, Mark.
bahaha me too i'm sobbing
Same here, it was unexpected and great!
Oh thank goodness, I thought I was the only one who cried xD
THIS OH MY GOD
Me too I’m glad I’m not the only sappy sucker crying here ;-; TwT
Why am I crying at the ending like I figured after seeing the letters we played as comedy and that we were here to reunite with tragedy, but I wasn't expecting it to be so sweet and adorable and gay. This game is fricking amazing. I laughed, I cried, it moved me, Bob.
And gay💀😂 that got me
"You can't help but think it's a little late in the game to be getting some new backstory."💀
And then even later, you finally get your own backstory revealed
This story blew my mind
@@voilet-the-non-violet-vulpix it was pretty shocking to find out I was a girl all along.
Everyone's talking about the underling or the relationship between the overlord and the maiden/tragedy and comedy but the hero has such good writing. To not know what will get you accepted or successful and force your future into misery and confusion because of other people's ideals and beliefs.
Think about it, the only time the hero is doing what he wants is when he's making a costume. Either the maiden, the crowd or his "duty and legacy" seem to always decide for him beforehand. I bet a lot of people can relate to that.
A lot of guys can relate to that.
It's subtle, but there. You have a duty to yourself, and what makes you happy. Being yourself is the best way to be, your best self.
the endings that got me the most were the ones where the hero fails without dying, and he questions what being a hero truly means. it reminds me of one of my favorite sayings: “you either die the hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
He’s happening making costumes right? Hear me out, he makes wedding dresses for the maiden and overlord. The Underling and be the ring barer or marry the two and they can also get an outfit tailored by the Hero
@@tacossmiley yes
Mark: "Humans are scarier than demons on any day"
Demons: *"Relatable"*
i really feel bad for you with the bots that decided to hit your comment
@@ProtoTerra This has been getting worse than I've seen it get in a long while. I hate that Mark and others have to deal with this, and I really don't like that there seems so little that TH-cam's been willing/able to do.
@@ProtoTerra They hit all of them
@Don't read profile photo Don't fucking post here!
Day 17 of asking markiplier to play riddle transfer 2
At first when it ended I though jeez that is a really cheesy ending, but then after a moment it set in and i started crying. Absolutely amazing. Unrelated, but the amount of combinations for the different behaviors and characters is exactly 65536.
Shit's like undertale
"My mother once told me to do my homework but i did not do it so i got locked in the basement and had no food for about two weeks in a row and i could not escape no matter what i tried to do i pryed at the door and tried to pick the lock and screamed for help but no one came for me and every thing was getting dark and i was just so tired and i was so cold then the darkness crept through the crack in my door to claim my soul and dragged me kicking and screaming to the under world" --- Mark 2022
Dark
@@dollyaigacha lol
Its just an average child rhyme you know what im sayin?
@@coffeeman882 I know right? Smh these guys have never used this rhyme to select something randomly? Thought it was as common as Eeney Meeney Miney Mo...
marki-lore
Something that I realized: The maiden's (the "maiden" at the end) face when she hugged the "overlord" was showing her crying but with a smile on her face (the exact face that the mask shown when she was Tragedy). I think this symbolizes that her tragedy led her to her true ending
it's also the same face at 16:04!! when she tries to save the overlord but dies in the fire
16:04, 1:15:36, and 1:30:06 all have the same face. i love the consistency of this, it's these small details that really help the characters shine through and reveal their true selves regardless of the form they are presented in
Okay this makes more sense now, I thought at the part as tragedys mask fell off, why maiden? Could also be overlord, you know, they are a demon and thats what comes to my mind that a demon would do tragic stories rather than a maid. But I guess it does not matter that much, because the faces of comedy and tragedy are not really the overlord and maiden, they just represent it like in the story
" you cant help but compare my face to the maiden's "
…….
The moment of clarity that the player was "Comedy" hit with the final line of the credits song and I was eagerly waiting for Mark to figure it out since it didn't seem like the game was going to tell you.
I had a feeling the player is comedy as soon as he found his first letter
I mean I think he figured it out, at least partially, when he learnt the narrator was called 'Tragedy'
1:01:06 He does figure it out lol
@Instagram User genuinely be quiet, that kind of promotion isn't getting you anywhere
@@lampreygaming8407 just report them
IT'S SO COOL how every perspective has a different colour tone in the artwork (apart from the true ending when every color was used together)
also it's hilarious how mark got all the letters in the opposite order from what he was supposed to get them in
I like in the true endings the current character is the main color used
@@megastormy497 yeah fr
@@megastormy497 still gotta add the color tone for the perspective
I’m not crying, you’re crying! Seriously though, such a good game. Tragedy’s ending hit really close to home for me
HOW DID YOU KNOW IM CRYING?? T-T
@@ShayyShayyv I'd be weirded out if someone WASN'T crying
@@daffyto9351 yea, same
@@daffyto9351 Are you weirded out yet
Oh my god- same-
isnt it strange that none of the stories or characters made me sad or cry at all, but the little song near the end had me almost sobbing?
Same. The endings are sad but dont have as much emotion as music usually does.
Truly. Some music seem like they were made to make you cry lol
I thought I was the only one (all the comments saying that the story was super sad)
Its to real For you not to
@@anapple6912 most likely a vocaloid. I wonder which one though?
i was never really into romance and cliche stuff, but god this was my breaking point. loved this with all my heart.
Honestly same although i must admit i was sensing some romance between the maiden and the overlord throughout the whole thing.
@@veracaide1373 well that's the point of the story. The fiction of the bad end theater was inspired by the real events tragedy went through, and who knows that may be a layer deeper where the whole game of fiction was based on the real life experiences of the creator. And honestly it makes sense after seeing the ending and looking back on it. The maiden and the overlord very clearly had a very special relationship and one that was always doomed to fail because of the community around them. The townspeople can't accept that the maiden would befriend a demon, in most endings the hero doesn't really believe or does nothing to really help the situation and the demons who try to start an uprising don't allow the relationship to exist even if all of that is circumvented.
@@alecbormia4523 i’m aware lmao i watched the video. I’m just saying that as someone who doesn’t often ship people i was shipping the maiden and the overlord from the start.
@@thechristfollower1723 You wanted it to be more pronounced?
Probably because while they have a romance factor there’s also redemption arc for the demons and the overlord also for the hero every character has a redemption arc and it’s played masterfully
i was NOT expecting such a touching ending. my lesbian ass was crying
Yo Lixian killed me with that sudden, "Maybe if you finished college..." snap out of nowhere
Also that, "I love you" at the end caught me right in the feels!!
Lixian has no chill and I love it
timestamp: 14:04
time stamp: Above me
That guy that put the timestamp all the way up there is an idiot. For one - no one can reach it; and two: its all wrong. He's wrong.
Here have my timestamp instead: 14:00 Wholesoplier😇 - Bigbadplier 14:09 😈 - Bigbabyplier👶😭 14:20
This game tells a story that was told a thousand times, but it tells this story in such a unique and special way. I loved this game very, very much
How so? Ya mean the story about a romance that was impossible or just the we going trough all the endings of the game?
@@alsparkproductions7849 i’m sure they meant how the story has mostly similar endings and how each time something changes. Like an anomaly!
@@alsparkproductions7849 probably about the cliche hero saving the maiden who was kidnapped by an evil demon overlord and also the underling is there. It’s a very cliched story premise, but there are little nuances and character complexities which makes this story more unique
@@voidnoidoid @Jack Smallwood well you srs gave two different interpretations but I guess both work
Nice name
Mark: *Cries because he can’t English properly*
Lixian: “Maybe if you finished college”
Emotional damage
Speeky dooman
If only he became an engineer…
Stevens dad maetializes: EmOtIoNaL DaMaGe
Tragedy's ending at the very end is pretty much my entire story, losing someone in a way I would not like to say, to starting something that would eventually lead us together after a few years.
Truly warms my heart
Mark: Cries because he can't read
Lixian: "*Maybe if you finished college*"
Fucking savage
@Savetion 100k TH-cam GOD WTF? THIS BOT IS FUCKED UP
He could've been an engineeeeeer 😫
(it need not be explained, but just in case, it's a joke)
But fr what an unholy amount of bots
@@Spaguettification what if he did took the engineer road. If he was super successfull he might get famous in that way.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
@@Spaguettification A bioengineer of sorts to be specific.
This one killed me inside, especially toward the ending. Relationship not being supported by family and community hits close to home. My anxious and deprecating thoughts consistently making me expect and imagine the worst ending for my boyfriend and I. But despite these worries, he's always there. Always working to fight my dark thoughts. I think he's my happy ending.
that's so sweet
Keep living your happiest man. We’re all rooting for you
Aw I can absolutely relate with you with this. I had the same thoughts and expecting the worst attitude for the longest time when I was dating my ex. The relationship ended for reasons outside of the issues you’re highlighting, but regardless during that time we were dating it really felt like it was us vs the world, especially because they’d been brought up in such a shitty household and I had really bad anxiety about how my family would feel about our relationship. It was a really sweet albeit tumultuous time in my life, and this game outlines the kinda emotions felt in such a time oh so perfectly. If anything I just wish I embraced the highs and lows as much as I could when they happened; it was all beautiful looking back at it. Regardless, I wish you and your partner all the best in your lives. Love is a magical thing and I’m so happy for you guys :)
Why you make me cri 😖😖
I hope you guys are still doing well! Stories like yours keep me going
tragedy is the maiden, and comedy is the overlord. ...ironically beautiful, i think 🥲
I’m unsure but maybe it’s the opposite, hard to tell when in the end everything is always sad.
Comedy? How did you get that name? I don't remember it being mentioned
@@EmilysLovelyBakery theatre is often represented with 2 masks, one called tragedy and the other called comedy, since tragedy is a character in this game and it also takes place at a theater it can be guessed the character tragedy speaks to at the end of this video is probably called comedy.
@@RoseDeleca ohh alright thank you!
@@RoseDeleca Not only that but during the ending, they say the MC (In this case Comedy) said while talking to tragedy that they were intent on making things a Good ending so that's another way to show that they are Comedy.
I come back to this video and rewatch it every few months and every single time I'm bawling by the end of it
I JUST DID THAT :D
this is so real honestly
This game is truly an emotional trip and i also enjoy Mark narration throughout this game and the credit song is just the icing on the cake. Truly 10/10
@Red 🧢 For you, there is no happy ending
@@luciomainbtw7064 YOOOOO- the best burn i have ever heard :y
@@luciomainbtw7064 Dear god they were so utterly defeated by that burn they deleted their own comment
I literally started choking on air when the game called out Mark with the "true end"
I was ugly crying at the end bro.
Let me just push that to 1k
"There are worst fates, I've seen them." Sounds so raw out of context lol
timestamp please?
@@underscoredfrisk 1:04:11
I'd forgotten about this game, then the recommendations suggested it to me again.
I have to say, this whole thing was amazing in such a simple package.
And yes Mark, I loved the voices you gave to them.
What I love about this is at the end:
"Tragedy ends"
This is in both a literal and figurative cense as it was the end of Tragey's story and the end of the tragedy.
Or maybe I'm looking into this too much
I had the same feeling, and would've commented if I didn't see yours. I didn't cry the whole video, but somehow those two words broke me
Well the simple placement of the s makes a difference. Tragedy's end has a different meaning then tragedy ends.
you must be part of the game theory community.
Nah bro, I think it was intentional. This created was a genius. That word choice was so... freeing. It was great.
@LexMcDufflePants agreed.
I feel like this game teaches a very good lesson. There can never be a truly tragic story without happiness. Otherwise the tragedy loses its meaning. There can never be a happy ending without tragedy. Otherwise the happiness is undriven and unappreciated. Poetically, the stories that lead to the happy ending are tragic and only the tragedy of the death of the characters and sadness of the stories do the two find each other and end happily
Why yes I have read, hero of a thousand faces
I'm unsure whether this is a reference or not but I do know that it's true in a way. All the tragedies in the world, couldn't mean anything with happiness. The same is true if the roles were reversed as well! And now I feel I've stated something blatantly obvious. Rip, bad ending.
Not really trying to reference this, but you ever seen that twilight zone episode, basically a murderer dies and is sent to heaven, he is given everything he wants, wins all the games he plays and gets all the women he wants, eventually he gets bored and dispondant, he asks the “angels” what hell is like and if he can go there, the angel reply: who’s to say they’re not already there
@@pigoverlord8250 sounds like pretty fun , or at least, like a different version of life.
@@leviticusprime4904more like hero of a thousand words
This is why I love Mark, He gaves smaller game creators the attention they need to keep making their games and updating them, The same said about Poppy Playtime, I'm sure not many people would even know what Poppy playtime was if not for Markiplier, Keep up the good work!
Nami actually has a pretty decently sized following! Her work is amazing and I deeply love all of them. She's a fantastic storyteller and creates lovely characters. I really reccomend checking out her other works!
I'm hoping he will play Purrfect Apawcalypse. It has the same style as this game, and its pretty good
Well Poppy Playtime sort of shot itself in the foot by immediately announcing they're doing NFTs.
@@SaraRyderN7 they did more than that
@@Lulu-qp6oh she doesn't have a decent following any more 😅 i'm pretty sure all her social media is gone (except her patreon maybe??) after the grooming allegations came to the surface
this is a masterpiece, it portrays different realities we have to face. as a person who literally portrays everything i see read or watch yeah, i found this an extremely good game definitely 11.9/10 recommended, leaving my thoughts here before i find my bad ending.
Me: this game won’t make me cry
Also me: _casually starts bawling_
Casually? I'm ugly crying 😢
Literally me
mild hysteria with some tears. Took a while to get there but in the end it got there beautifully.
@@bluerivers9865 I've never "Pretty cried", so... I guess I'm just an ugly crier. Though, I suppose that's because I have such a will that I don't cry unless it's just too much to bear. Perhaps, however, there have been times when I've shed a single tear, whilst barely holding myself together. Those are the only moments when it's climactic. But, unfortunately, the only time it was not dramatic or fitting to do so, maybe even funny in a sense, was when I was in middle school. I had been walking to my seat, eager to eat my deliciously smelling food, when the antagonist of most of my tales, my "school bully", had tripped me on my way to my chair. I fell, of course, and my meal had flown from their spots on my tray into the air, and fallen, almost comically, onto my head. My hat, which had been flung off of my head due to the force and speed of my fall catching the brim of my baseball cap, had then landed upside down on my tray, staining the top in an extremely obvious place. I got up onto my knees, placed my hands on my lap, and barely held it together as a single tear fell from my cheek onto my hand.
Now that I look back, however, it appears that this tale wasn't as funny as I had initially thought anymore... Well, I apologize for rambling.
what why
100% was pulling a Mark “No! Tragedy needs a happy ending too!” Then appreciating the fact Mark gave Tragedy such a manly voice for her.
I DID NOT EXPECT TRAGEDY'S LOVE TO BE THE MC... THAT WAS GORGEOUS IM CRYING
the credit song was a really nice way to reveal it too. I was already enjoying the song and then once the second half kicked in, the revelation hit. Like, oh damn no wonder one letter mentions their love always listening to their entire stories till the end while another speaks about them convincing them to try a good ending *and then* you only unlock the final ending by listening to every story and trying to change it to a good ending. If you exit the theatre early then you are just another random audience member. A stranger who grew weary of the bad endings. You only get the truest ending by doing what their truest love would do: stay to finish and then make it happier.
A masochist and another masochist inlove. Beautiful???
oops I spoiled myself
Com.ed.y
i had a feeling the maiden and overlord would be together from their first interaction and i was very pleased at the ending
A fated romance
Literally same
This game is already amazing by itself, but Mark’s narrating really was the icing on the cake
When you think about it, nobody here was evil...or at least evil without reason. The Underling was manipulated by his 'friends', presumably because the Overlord was a bad boss, who in turn just wanted to live a peaceful life. The Hero chooses unwise decisions at times....ironically more than the other 3, because he lived a false reality, taking "The clothes make the man" all too literally. The Maiden was just bored. The villagers burnt her in fear of the demons...actually come to think of it, it was because of the overlord's father. So technically he was responsible for the conflict in the story. Tragedy? Why, she's just making and telling stories. A game that gives you a depressing concept and yet being one of the sweetest games I've ever seen, absolutely heartwarming. This was a masterpiece of a game.
Absolutely 💯 agree the whole "nobody is completely evil and nobody is good" has never been told better
Copy this comment TH-cam KILLED THE COMMENTS
Tragedy was able to make it sweet because of the same traits assigned to the characters in the boss battle. It's like Hamlet meets Romeo and Juliet meets Wizard of Oz
Hey, the game only uses they/them for the underling! This is a good analysis and I can tell you really enjoy the game, so I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but with the LGBT theme of it I think it's important to respect the proper pronouns for the characters in it as well
Congrats you figured out the entire point of the game.
I fucking love the storytelling in this game, I love how the game is practically screaming the true story at you, but you only truly understand it when you get to tragedys end
I also love what the characters represent, the maiden and overlord representing tragedy and comedy(I assume that's what her name is), and the hero and underling representing the opposing sides trying to separate the two, whether it be by the hero being sent on a quest to save the maiden by the "evil demon overlord" or by treason and assassination(I mean if you're dead you cant really be with your partner)
it's so good and such beautiful storytelling, definitely going to be a game I'm going to enjoy for awhile
Love the parallels you drew.
just read umineko
@@cagayakegirlz what does that have to do with anything??
@@inkfolder2467 basically this games entire theme and storytelling but longer and better and came first
@@cagayakegirlz i was never asking for recommendations and i already really like this game + you have a dr reference in your username/neg + L + ratio(/hj)
1:20:34 is easily the funniest part, it's just so chill for a good minute, straight into "what the fuck?" 😂
Also can we respect the fact while the credits played Mark was talking but as soon as the lyrics started he went quiet; allowing us to listen to such a great song.
The person who made this game made a wonderful story, it would be great to see this developer go on to make bigger games or just simply continue making games in their own style.
This game reminds me of "No-one has to die" it's basically a lighter version of the game where... no one had to die. And it gets solved via the same time fuckery that caused everyone to die anyways. Except this story actually MEANS something more human than time fuckery, it's about Tragedy that makes sense, natural, and it hits closer to home because of it... and the cutesy artstyle really adds on it for some reason. Thank you Mark.
I am going to try that game! I hope other TH-camrs have played the game you mentioned.
Interesting.
Guess what video game I'll be watching next
The reason the art adds to it is, IMO, the fact that it grounds us more to the game. We feel more, human, humane, around cutsy things like dogs than horrifiying demons. Would you sympathize with a dog or a demon more?
@@goddhoward7453 It used to be Dog but after this game I don't know anymore
Before the last conversation with tragedy and seeing her end I was almost disappointed. I really felt like something was missing, something that tragedy's end provided. I've noticed that intentionally creating that feeling that one loose end is yet to be tied up is incredibly hard to do, as is creating a feeling of closure when you put that feeling into your audience. Incredible story over all, and congratulations to the writer for pulling it off so well.
I agree, very few stories/games do it well.
I was kinda the opposite. The ending for me was the most disappointing part. She just... appears. As your main character that you've been playing as. Doesn't really feel like there's any stakes to anything. Loved the game up until that point though. Props to the writer for almost making it work
@@somarafa9998 yeah, but what stakes were there other than the characters or having a happy ending?
@@somarafa9998 I agree. I was hoping for something like Tradgey takes off her mask and relieves she's just like the player and then maybe we put in a comedy mask or something. The ending felt kind of... wrong. She just appeared.
That ending almost got me in tears, this was such a beautiful game,, the art, the story; everything. It was very sweet
The moment I read "For all your tragedies, I'll write happy endings." I immediately knew that you the player are Comedy. That realisation was such a beautiful moment that made the ending that much sweeter
“Speeky dooman” now sits at number one of the best things I have ever heard Mark say. I was crying with laughter.
Ill never forget "you've gotta keep your count aselfable!" (Intense mentality anguish ensues)
"Speeky dooman" just makes me think of a talking shit monster
Sammeeeee
Same!!
@Beast v2🔥 stfu that’s completely not ok to say. And you don’t even have any content
The ending got me, as someone who lost the love of their life due to cancer in October, I relate to letting tragedy take over.
*hug*
Hugs ~💗
my lover had lung cancer...they survived but it was a close call. I can't say I understand your pain but I want to remind you that it will be okay. They would want you to be strong. And they love you don't forget it. Time heals everything.
much love to you ❤️
i cant say i understand but i know it must be tough
stay strong❤️
*Sending a warm hug your way*...
That was honestly such a gorgeously written story, with lovely art and music. Mark's narration made it even better, as usual. Amazing job to the devs!!
How about another joke Murray?
Damn it Murray it's really good for real
@@hitkee1785 Cool
1:02:01 wow i feel a bit guilty seeing as i was tempted to leave too!
I was wondering if the story would continue to develop or if it would just be different perspectives.
This game is impressive and delightful. I love Mark's narration of this. Bad End Theater is such a charming game and a well crafted masterpiece.
It’s interesting how although the game seems so positively perceived, there isn’t much playthroughs from any other youtubers whatsoever, hope to see some other reactions as well.
@@mildtora8433 ddds da swssdswwss
@@-krudolph-7779 Agreed
The way it crafts the actual story though the characters is so awesome, and the poeticism of the ending is just beautiful.
@@CrownedYeti the song was so fantastic at the end, it gave me so much goosebumps
I legit cried at the end. Bravo to this game and the developer. Bravo, indeed.
Bravo, that was a good story 👏
I started crying when the "Good End" showed the Maiden and Overlord living together in the castle and I didn't stop until "Tragedy's End". I could tell early on that there was clearly a Sapphic romance intended between the Maiden and the Overlord and it gave me such a genuine boost of serotonin to see.
YES!!! me too! i’m so happy to see sapphics getting some love :”) brought tears to my eyes as well.
when i saw the ennding i was like
YES! I CALLED IT!!!!
and the scene where they showed the maiden and the overlord
THEY ARE MARRIED YOUR HONOUR TTTT
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH
I started bawling my eyes out, this game was absolutely amazing from finish to start and the whole story is so good.
Yesssssss was so damn cute
It cracks me up how many comments there are in here that are like “so glad these *best friends* found each other!”
Hon.
They gay.
i love how they put the nonbinary in there. when everyone gets to be thereself the underling is shown to be themself. AHHH I LOVE THIS GAME.
I audibly "awed" so many times at the end, I'm not a mushy gushy person, but the ending was beautiful and I loved it.
Memento Mori!
@@Sheep. Memento Mori
I never fond over many lgbt relationships but good god this was something…beautiful
@@augustuzmoon3814 same. Ive never been interested in them because they felt so forced and shoved into the show for representation rather than for the story. But this game is the first time ive ever shipped a lgbtq couple they were so cute together.
I hope that doesnt sound homophobic ive just never seen a lgbtq relationship done right.
@@pinkestelle558 Have you watched the owl house? It has great rep and actual relationship development between the LBGTQ characters
Mark shouldn't have apologized for his own narrative, his voices are really what made the video for me, I loved this game, the ending was really sweet, thank you for playing it Mark. :)
I loved his Tragedy voice, the overly dramatic flair adds to the fact that Tragedy is playing the role as the villain, perhaps even if they don’t want to.
I literally cried to the ending... I actually really loved that... the art style was amazing
You’re not the only one who cried-
Same, I was feeling so much emotions and couldn't understand how I felt lol
Im fighting for my life to not cry right now
These games always get me 😭
I also cried a lot and I am not ashamed of it
I've been hearing the ending song for Bad End Theater for probably a year or so now on Spotify, and I've always enjoyed it, so seeing this video, I knew I had to watch it, and I'm blown away by everything. The creator did an amazing job on this game, and you did a great job sharing it, as always.
I love how the ending is "TRAGEDY'S END"
This is such a great game
Mark: "Humans are scary"
Also Mark: "Speaky Doomen"
Edit: OMG SO MANY LIKES TY? 😭💀
@Savetion 100k TH-cam GOD what....
@Savetion 100k TH-cam GOD wtf
Where was that part in the vid cause I don't think I was paying attention
the bots have gone too far
actually they’ve crossed the line a long time ago but this is a new record
Mark, having unlocked two traits: there must be two more
Also Mark, when he discovers a fourth trait: *suprised pikachu face*
I love bad end theater so much! I hope to see more from the developer. I'm a sucker for bad endings but also endings like this. So heartwarming after all that tragedy