Glad I could help with your decision, getting the 265 will save you some dollar and it’s well worth the savings if TOPO navigation isn’t being used 🙈 All the best mate
FYI you can upload all hiking maps via garmin and follow the trail on all day hike works great even if you go off route you can use it to return back. This has been around for ling time.
Thanks for the comment D M. If you check out my Peak District vlog on this channel that’s an example where I used the Garmin Enduro 2 mapping and navigation to lead a group of 12 coworkers through 20 miles of Dovedale! Took us all day to get back to the cabin with quite a few “off-route” detours 🤣 but I was very impressed with the all-day Garmin hiking experience ⌚️🗺️🥾
Very helpful video for those not familiar with how breadcrum navigation works, it works well on that 265! It's pretty much the same as on my 745 and I've used it quite a bit for finding my way running, on the MTB and road bike. I agree it's sufficient for most people in most cases, the only times I've found myself struggling a bit is when on the road bike (so going faster) on more complicated crossroads, there I miss the full map sometimes. But for running or on the MTB/road bike in the countryside I find this totally sufficient!
Not a bad little feature is it! Some great bargains on the 745 these days too if people aren’t sound on AMOLED 🙈 yeah that’s a good point, moving faster on a bicycle does bring out the weaknesses in breadcrumb trail! Thanks again for the support and lovely comments Jasper!
Hope you have the best times with it! If you need any help with using the watch or have any future questions feel free to drop a comment and I’ll get straight back to you 🔥🌟👊🏽
Thanks, very cool! I'm thinking about the 965 for the bigger display and better maps and wanted to see how it would work while running. ... Just subscribed and saw you also have a very nice 965 navigation video
Hey Giles! The bigger display of the 965 definitely makes it an absolute pleasure to use!! You also get the increased battery life on this model 👍🏽 Glad to see you’ve subscribed 🙈 Hope you enjoyed the 965 Navigation video 👊🏼
An absolute pleasure! I’ll admit, using a 255/265 for an ultra isn’t ideal but it’s definitely doable battery life wise and if you’re happy with breadcrumb trails only 🙈 Cheers again mate 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas I'm leaning towards the 965 as a upgrade from my 255, the mapping features is something that is making me want to upgrade. But finding a decent review actually about to Topo maps is difficult, its all about the watch & not actually the real world use of map's.. thanks for taking the time to reply 🫶🏼
The 965 is genuinely one of the best watches on the market. If you are happy with the price tag it will be a purchase you won’t regret 🌟 The mapping on it is soooo impressive, it’s comfortable, it’s stylish, battery life is okay, screen is beautiful. Only recommendation is to put a screen protector on it pretty pronto! Good luck 😉
Im just waiting for the forerunner 965 to arrive! I also love the 265 because of the 42mm size! Maybe i should get both! 😅 Greetings from México Bro! ✌🏻
Hey Victor/ México🇲🇽! Greetings from the UK 🇬🇧 👊🏽! You and me both mate, I’m well excited about getting the 965 in my hands! Not sure what my dream combo is!? the 265s & 7X SS.. or 965 & 7X SS 😅
Could you check if lactate treshold autodetection is working on 265? No the lt test, but autodetection during activity. It's huge problem on x95 series.
Mine appears to have auto detection lactate threshold. Although for this I think you need to give an all out effort during outside running for at least 15-30 minutes whilst wearing a HR strap. All the best mate 🌟
Great content 👌 👏 👍 Question, can you add topographical maps to the forerunner 265 & around the 4min 39 sec in the video it shows 500ft, what does that mean 🤔 Thanks keep up the great content 👏 👍 👌 🙏
Cheers mate! You unfortunately can't get topographical maps o the forerunner 265.. if this is essential then I highly recommend getting the 965.. such a stunning watch! The 500ft referred to the distance.. on the breadcrumb trail you're getting a "birds-eye-view" from point A to point B of your course. This 500ft means you are looking down at the route from 500ft.. you can choose to zoom in to increase the detail of the breadcrumbs trail or you can zoom out to getting a better overview. Hope that means sense bud, all the best! 🔥🌟
Thanks for the helpful video. Poor deer. It's so sad that nature paths are being closed off and that animals can't migrate. How sad that natural roaming paths, nature and community sports fields are not considered by city planning. These things are the lifeblood of cities. I hope you and your neighbours make a big fuss about it 🦌💛
Lots of us have made a big fuss only for it to fall on deaf ears 😫 Nature is being impacted massively in my community and this is one of the better towns in the whole of the UK.. I feel sorry for many people living on the cities where nature is just completely written off ❤️
Honestly I don't understand why they don't have the actual map shown on the display, if this had map on it It's such an easy purchase. Following a breadcrumb seems absurd while I am trying to focus on running.
Thanks for the comment 🌟Yeah unfortunately if you want an actual map you’ll have to upgrade to a forerunner 965 for that experience. Following a breadcrumb is easy and 99% of the time I’m doing that on a map anyway.. where having a map helps is when you get to a fork in the road for example and then you know exactly which road/trail to go down. Tbh though you can zoom in super close on bread crumb trail so making this type of navigational mistake would be rare. Hope this helps 🔥
@@ActiveIdeasThat's super fair, as a newer runner I am just weary of a black box with an arrow on it I suppose, since I would be looking to generate some routes and get familiar with new areas and such
You’re not wrong to be worried about this. I recently did the 268 mile spine race ultra marathon and the Garmin Fenix 7 Pro lost its GPS acquisition. On this was I could tell that something “wasn’t right” but with an arrow, a red line, and a black background I could have easily have gone off trail and got lost. During my 6 full days of running this probably happened about 8 times. I’d be completely comfortable using the 265 for 50km runs and less If a course was also marked with flags or if I had OSmaps on my phone as a back up. I think, should 50km it really pays to upgrade to something like the 965 or even the new Epic Gen2 Pro for extra piece of mind 👍🏽
Love your videos. Im looking to buy a garmin watch and have been watching various review videos. You did a video comparing the intricacies of how the software works comparing fr955 to fenix. And for some reason 955 was a lot harder to use (or less intuitive). I was just wondering if any update has helped some of these issues on the 955? Also looking at your FR265 reviews it looks like they have been resolved. Im thinking with the scrolling left and right on graphs and things like that. I'm torn between fenix 7 / FR955 or go for the amoled screens FR265. Seems like screen vs maps is the ultimate choice but the issues with the 955 put me off a little, so leaning towards FR265.
Hey mate! Thanks for the comment! There have been lots of updates since I made that video and the 955 is a much more pleasurable experience. I personally don’t think the FR265 is very good value for money.. for the same cash, I’d rather get a Suunto Race. So for value of money I would 100% recommend the 955 solar because I’ve seen it for some fantastic prices. It’s a watch you can grow with as an athlete and you won’t hit walls and ceiling like you will quickly on the 265.. when you wondering “can I do this on my watch” it will usually be a yes with the 955 and a no with the 265 🤣 You might also want to consider looking at second hand Fenix 7’s but I have had some issues with the gps tbh which has me hesitant. To round up my answer.. if you’re definitely looking at staying with Garmin I truly believe you can’t go wrong with the value for money of the 955, especially since all the updates it’s had since I released the video ❤️ Hope this helps mate, and if you have any more questions, feel free to ask 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas you absolute legend. Cheers for the quick and detailed response :) Okay sounds like FR955 could be the one then! I do get some discount at Garmin so why I was going to take advantage of that. May I ask does the solar offer anything more than the standard? Other than extra charge because of the solar? Although you've made me want to check out the suunto race now :p that looks like might have everything I'm looking for haha
Been getting a few requests on this one! NAVIGATION 🧭 on the FORERUNNER 265!? JOIN me on a hike/jog journey from my garage to my gym 🤣 🗺️ Very impressed tbh. It even loaded the 268 mile Summer Spine Race course albeit with a slight bit of lag 😅🌟
Greetings mate, this is some excellent content for us without built-in maps watches. Question, is the Garmin breadcrump navingation enough/better than downloading and using an IQ connect application, like dwMap, wikiloc, etc? Have you done a comparison? I am interested at hiking and not running so much, also I am using a forerunner 165.
It totally depends on what you’re doing. For hiking in remote areas (what I used this for) phone signal can be terrible or completely missing. I’m pretty sure you need a stable connection & cell signal for DwMap, wikiloc etc to work! I would say.. yes, the breadcrumb navigation by Garmin is enough to go hiking with. As I said in this video.. I used it to safely navigate through the 26 miles of the Yorkshire three peaks Hope this helped ❤️
@panos9186 you’ll be fine mate ❤️ As long as you download a reliable GPX map/route you’ll have a fantastic navigation experience. Remember as well you’ll get back to start features and the ability to navigate towards a saved location (you could save the location of your car, tent, pub etc lol) so lots of fun to be had even though this is a cheaper Garmin model 🙏🏽👊🏽
Is there any possibility to remove the black bar on the 965? It pushes the arrow so much to the top that I see more of what is behind me than what's ahead.
How do you create the route in the garmin app and then upload to the watch please? I’m looking at getting a forerunner 265s and want to make sure I’ve done allllll my research lol!
Nice content. Planning to buy 965 but i think this is enough for me without the topo. But my problem now is should i buy 265 now or wait for 275 next yr🤣
Corr! Unless you find the 265 on a good deal.. avoid at all costs! There are too many good options with Suunto race s, Coros pace pro & polar vantage m3.. plus with 275 probably coming out soon.. makes no sense to get 265 at the moment 🙈🤣
Great video thanks. Ignoring the price difference, would you choose 265S or Fenix 7S Solar Sapphire for your own use? I am currently deciding between the two.
That’s a tough one Joyce! I would say I’d you want better battery life, need TOPO maps then you MUST go Fenix 7s.. however if you want a 24/7 super advanced biotracker the 265s is much more comfortable for all day wear and sleeping in. Hope this helps 🌟
The fenix is definitely a more feature rich and rugged watch which is aimed more at outdoor adventuring compared to the forerunner which is mainly oriented for running and is also lighter but does have the capability to record and be of use in other sports
You can upload gpx maps but these will be breadcrumb only with no "topo map" in the background which means you follow a line on.your watch. It works really well if you don't need crazy in depth navigation features.🌟
I have read that you get the turn by turn info and the gpx map if you import the gpx first in garmin connect on the web. Could you confirm pls? Thank you very much.
Hey Stefan, Same! I’ve got the 965 coming next week, I wonder if it will steal the limelight 🤣 That was the original plan, to travel back with the reverse course feature! BUT my car failed it’s MOT 😩 So I had to use the compass 🧭 to travel back home! 😉🌟
@@ActiveIdeas 😂 honestly if they made the 965 a little smaller I’d be all in. I want that titanium premium feel. I just have very small wrists 150mm so just think it would look out of place
HRV is really good, I love it! .. Sleep data is questionable. The main issue is that it doesn’t track naps and because of this if you nap a lot (and therefore get lots of sleep) Garmin will calculate allllllll of your training readiness metrics off of one sleep per day which makes it not too accurate! All the best James 🌟
Talk about the the right timing. Am more of a cyclist with a edge 520 plus The reason I got the 165 is because my old Vivoactive 3 has limited activities Now am trying to figure out how to mirror it to my edge 520 plus 😅 Thanks again for great help. Basically Garmin videos are hopeless..😂😂
Hahahaha, I remember looking at the Garmin videos myself when I needed help. 👀 I’d have to agree, they’re getting better.. slowly 🙈 Fair play for rocking the Vivoactive 3 for so long.. that’ll forever be one of my favourite watches 🔥
If you aren't paying attention and run off course down a side street, does it give you the general direction to get back on course or a turn by turn course?
This is such a good question! To the best of my knowledge if you take a catastrophic navigational error the only aid you’ll get is a compass pointing youu back into the direction to get on-course but unfortunately I don’t think the 265 would give you turn-by-turn navigation back to the course so you’d have to remember where you messed up. Very rare that you’d mess up beyond a point of no return but definitely possible! Thanks for the awesome comment Martyn! 👊🏽🌟
@@ActiveIdeas I think I'm sold on the 265 - I was going to get the 965 just for the maps but if I can use this fell running and street running then I'm in for one.
What’s your thoughts on 255 vs 265 dc rainmaker said trining readiness not coming to 255, can we convince garmin otherwise ? Overall feel of 265 vs 255 I feel like I want the training readiness but not willing to trade in the 255M the touch screen and display I don’t care for.
This is where Coros earns my respect quite frankly. I couldn’t see Coros having these types of software limits on perfectly able hardware. It’s not good for customers and it’s not good for the environment. I think if enough people rustled the feathers about it then, yes, Garmin could surely be tempted into bringing training readiness to the 255. But will this happen? I don’t think so unfortunately. Also there needs to be some incentive to spend more on the 265.. and as you’ve said here, you don’t care for the touch screen and display. I feel like many are in your position so my assumption is that Garmin knows it has to offer touch screen, display AND training readiness as the whole package 📦 Hope this helps D M 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas yeah I agree, the upgrade should be on the hardware and should cost $40-100 more. Will training readiness make me better, NO but I like cool things even if they released it as a $40 paid option, but having no option 🖕garmin. (They are still best option IMO)
While I'm not denying Amoled may be perfectly good enough for many people (especially those with good eyesight), the idea that is as readable as classic MIP displays outdoors/daylight is delusional. When you factor in the ridiculous hand gestures to keep the screen on during an activity and the huge impact to battery life, Amoled is a solution looking for a problem. Gotta follow that Apple I guess. It's win/win for Garmin: higher prices and watches that will need replacements sooner because they won't get the job done eventually because of natural battery degradation.
Hahaha, I agree mate. I feel like the only person on TH-cam who's saying MIP screens do seem better out in daylight?! In fact in 90% of scenarios i'd rather have a MIP on my wrist is visibility is the goal. Absolutely delusional ;) BUT I must admit though AMOLED has held its own in the gym and outdoors after sunset. With my wrist at angles and with indoor lighting the amoled screen is super enjoyable to use.. even in the gym mirror like 5 meters away I was able to read my heart rate in the 265s reflections. Yeah, battery life does seem to be a problem. I'm not getting any where near Garmin's or other tech reviewers claims. I do train a lot but >5 days starts to fall into Apple Watch territory 🤣 Another great point about batter degradation. If companies do care about the environment that is another win for MIP. Have you seen my "Garmin's Next Ultra Watch" video.. I'm really hoping they have a MIP 45mm watch in the works. Thanks for the comment and all the best 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas Yes, there will be scenarios where Amoled will shine (no pun intended). I'm not against Amoled as a tech, just doubtful that it's the right tech for this particular job when all things are considered. Closest analogy I can find is the kindle. Those e-ink displays are far from impressive-looking and they don't allow for fancy graphs or animations but they're extremely good for the intended purpose, with incredible battery life. Anyways, thanks for the videos. I enjoy your style and your engagement here in the comment section. Have a subscribe!
@@ActiveIdeas Haha, OK just saw this video too. Now I'm confused again, I may save my 450eur after all then. I mean, by construction MIP screens get more legible the brighter it is and the opposite holds for AMOLED, we all know that. But looking at videos at runtesters where the guy wears glasses and says there was no visiiblity problem at all under Portugal sunlight and not sure what to believe. Somehow I don't think that they will let me take the watch out in the sun to test it at the local shop, so where does that leave me... Btw, did you have the brightness on auto, or high, or something else here, do you remember?
Hello from Brazil! I own the forerunner 245 and I am planning to upgrade to the 265 or 965 later this year... Probably the first price wise. In the 265, using the navigation, is it possible to zoom in and out and move the map using the touch screen or only using buttons? I also noticed that you get some elevation info during navegation, is it similar to Climbpro fearured in 965?
Hello Brazil, much love from the UK! My gut instinct is telling me that the upgrade from the 245 to the 265 isn’t worth it.. I’ve tested both watches and there really isn’t much difference (and the 265 is still pretty expensive). The 965 will be a massive upgrade, well worth actually parting cash with and the navigation is much better 👍🏽 With 265 you can only use buttons I believe 👊🏽 Yeah the full course elevation profile on the 265 is really cool but it’s not got much on ClimbPro.. which is much better for getting information on each individual climb 🌟 Hope all this has helped 🌟
Navigation is for when you are going for a run/hike/cycle in a location which you’ve never been to before. The 265 will provide you with turn by turn navigation along with a breadcrumb trail to follow so you don’t get lost. I would say the 265 is built for gym.. although I recommend getting the 265s as it’s more comfortable for use in the gym (gets less in the way). Hope this helps 🌟
To be honest, this isn't that impressive considering my ageing forerunner 935 can do this and the Suunto ambit 3 I once owned also. With the forerunner 245 is was a bit harder because that one doesn't have a compass and you always had to move to get the breadcrumb in the correct orientation. The 255 solved that. Really no need to spend money on a forerunner 265 for anything that is shown in this video, if you already own a slightly older mi/top range forerunner. The hard parts are with y junctions, but you notice quick enough that you deviate from the course, or when you have to decide is the turn just before the river crossing or just over.
You bring up some great points here.. I forgot the 245 didn't have a compass so this is definitely welcomed! But yeah I do agree that the 265 does fall into a very weird category of costing loads of money but not really offering any practical functional benefits over the older models.. I mean it's funny that even the 935 would give it a run for it's money.. and looking over to Coros you can save hundreds if you're not worried about turn by turn notifications. Yeah Y junctions are where issues happen.. tbh even with TOPO maps on the Fenix 7 I've taken the wrong turning many times at junctions like these (granted my hopeless with navigation). Thanks for the comments Leo 🌟
@spikeweb5193 well forerunner 955 has full detail maps of the world with MIP screen and is about 50 euro more than the forerunner 265 but the 265 has amoled screen but not map detail
@@smothyism I'm just wondering between one and the other watch and I'm looking for information if, apart from amoled and probably a bit of appearance, they differ in something else? Any functions?
How do you create the route in the garmin app and then upload to the watch please? I’m looking at getting a forerunner 265s and want to make sure I’ve done allllll my research lol!
Click on Garmin connect app > more > training and planning > courses! It’s abit buried in the app but once you click on these you’ll be able to organise your imported GPX maps or create one of your own 🔥 Hope this helps
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Thanks! Appreciate you showing breadcrumb navigation. I was doubting between 265 and 965, but this is clearly enough so I might as well use this.
Glad I could help with your decision, getting the 265 will save you some dollar and it’s well worth the savings if TOPO navigation isn’t being used 🙈 All the best mate
FYI you can upload all hiking maps via garmin and follow the trail on all day hike works great even if you go off route you can use it to return back. This has been around for ling time.
Thanks for the comment D M. If you check out my Peak District vlog on this channel that’s an example where I used the Garmin Enduro 2 mapping and navigation to lead a group of 12 coworkers through 20 miles of Dovedale! Took us all day to get back to the cabin with quite a few “off-route” detours 🤣 but I was very impressed with the all-day Garmin hiking experience ⌚️🗺️🥾
Very helpful video for those not familiar with how breadcrum navigation works, it works well on that 265! It's pretty much the same as on my 745 and I've used it quite a bit for finding my way running, on the MTB and road bike. I agree it's sufficient for most people in most cases, the only times I've found myself struggling a bit is when on the road bike (so going faster) on more complicated crossroads, there I miss the full map sometimes. But for running or on the MTB/road bike in the countryside I find this totally sufficient!
Not a bad little feature is it! Some great bargains on the 745 these days too if people aren’t sound on AMOLED 🙈 yeah that’s a good point, moving faster on a bicycle does bring out the weaknesses in breadcrumb trail! Thanks again for the support and lovely comments Jasper!
Just bought a 265 and like yourself, over the moon with it. Great video btw
Welcome to the club! You’re going to love it. 🔥 Cheers btw
As someone buying this as a gift for someone, this comment just gave me so much ease. Thank you
@ thanks. Had it a year now and still love it to bits.
That’s awesome Lauryn! I hope the recipient loves it 🔥
Awesome Raymond, good to hear mate 👊🏽
Just got my 265 and this video was incredibly helpful. Thank you!
Hope you have the best times with it! If you need any help with using the watch or have any future questions feel free to drop a comment and I’ll get straight back to you 🔥🌟👊🏽
Thanks, very cool! I'm thinking about the 965 for the bigger display and better maps and wanted to see how it would work while running.
... Just subscribed and saw you also have a very nice 965 navigation video
Hey Giles! The bigger display of the 965 definitely makes it an absolute pleasure to use!! You also get the increased battery life on this model 👍🏽 Glad to see you’ve subscribed 🙈 Hope you enjoyed the 965 Navigation video 👊🏼
MEDIC! I love it when my TH-cam subscriptions cross over. 🤣
So much love for HAZEoutdoors 🤣
Training for my first marathon - looking for a watch for exercise and daily life. Torn between Venu and Forerunner 265 !
Both are great watches! I’d suggest the 265 though for marathon training! Also, have you considered Suunto of Polar at this price range?
Does it have full map view 265 music ?
It doesn't have TOPO maps just breadcrumb trail 🔥
What a great video, I was surprised by your comment about the 255/265 would be ok mapping wise 😮 for a ultra
Thanks for another great review 🎉🎉🎉
An absolute pleasure! I’ll admit, using a 255/265 for an ultra isn’t ideal but it’s definitely doable battery life wise and if you’re happy with breadcrumb trails only 🙈 Cheers again mate 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas I'm leaning towards the 965 as a upgrade from my 255, the mapping features is something that is making me want to upgrade. But finding a decent review actually about to Topo maps is difficult, its all about the watch & not actually the real world use of map's.. thanks for taking the time to reply 🫶🏼
The 965 is genuinely one of the best watches on the market. If you are happy with the price tag it will be a purchase you won’t regret 🌟 The mapping on it is soooo impressive, it’s comfortable, it’s stylish, battery life is okay, screen is beautiful. Only recommendation is to put a screen protector on it pretty pronto! Good luck 😉
@@ActiveIdeas I have a bluelight card, Garmin give you a £70 discount on all products 😁
@shropshirecycle fantastic! There’s some great deals on Blue Light 😍
Im just waiting for the forerunner 965 to arrive! I also love the 265 because of the 42mm size! Maybe i should get both! 😅 Greetings from México Bro! ✌🏻
Hey Victor/ México🇲🇽! Greetings from the UK 🇬🇧 👊🏽! You and me both mate, I’m well excited about getting the 965 in my hands! Not sure what my dream combo is!? the 265s & 7X SS.. or 965 & 7X SS 😅
Could you check if lactate treshold autodetection is working on 265? No the lt test, but autodetection during activity. It's huge problem on x95 series.
Mine appears to have auto detection lactate threshold. Although for this I think you need to give an all out effort during outside running for at least 15-30 minutes whilst wearing a HR strap. All the best mate 🌟
Great content 👌 👏 👍
Question, can you add topographical maps to the forerunner 265 & around the 4min 39 sec in the video it shows 500ft, what does that mean 🤔
Thanks keep up the great content 👏 👍 👌 🙏
Cheers mate! You unfortunately can't get topographical maps o the forerunner 265.. if this is essential then I highly recommend getting the 965.. such a stunning watch! The 500ft referred to the distance.. on the breadcrumb trail you're getting a "birds-eye-view" from point A to point B of your course. This 500ft means you are looking down at the route from 500ft.. you can choose to zoom in to increase the detail of the breadcrumbs trail or you can zoom out to getting a better overview. Hope that means sense bud, all the best! 🔥🌟
Thanks for the helpful video. Poor deer. It's so sad that nature paths are being closed off and that animals can't migrate. How sad that natural roaming paths, nature and community sports fields are not considered by city planning. These things are the lifeblood of cities. I hope you and your neighbours make a big fuss about it 🦌💛
Lots of us have made a big fuss only for it to fall on deaf ears 😫 Nature is being impacted massively in my community and this is one of the better towns in the whole of the UK.. I feel sorry for many people living on the cities where nature is just completely written off ❤️
@@ActiveIdeas Thanks for making a fuss. Please continue being a voice for the voiceless 💗
@swaantjie always ❤️
Thanks for the video it was very detailed and informative.
An absolute pleasure Dorothy! 🌟 More videos like this to come.
Honestly I don't understand why they don't have the actual map shown on the display, if this had map on it It's such an easy purchase. Following a breadcrumb seems absurd while I am trying to focus on running.
Thanks for the comment 🌟Yeah unfortunately if you want an actual map you’ll have to upgrade to a forerunner 965 for that experience. Following a breadcrumb is easy and 99% of the time I’m doing that on a map anyway.. where having a map helps is when you get to a fork in the road for example and then you know exactly which road/trail to go down. Tbh though you can zoom in super close on bread crumb trail so making this type of navigational mistake would be rare. Hope this helps 🔥
@@ActiveIdeasThat's super fair, as a newer runner I am just weary of a black box with an arrow on it I suppose, since I would be looking to generate some routes and get familiar with new areas and such
You’re not wrong to be worried about this. I recently did the 268 mile spine race ultra marathon and the Garmin Fenix 7 Pro lost its GPS acquisition. On this was I could tell that something “wasn’t right” but with an arrow, a red line, and a black background I could have easily have gone off trail and got lost. During my 6 full days of running this probably happened about 8 times. I’d be completely comfortable using the 265 for 50km runs and less If a course was also marked with flags or if I had OSmaps on my phone as a back up. I think, should 50km it really pays to upgrade to something like the 965 or even the new Epic Gen2 Pro for extra piece of mind 👍🏽
@ActiveIdeas 965 is huge on my skinny wrists so it's not an option
Have you checked out Suunto Race S?
Wow this is gold 🎉
Hell yeah it is! ❤️
Cheers, Mate!!!
A pleasure 🌟
Love your videos. Im looking to buy a garmin watch and have been watching various review videos. You did a video comparing the intricacies of how the software works comparing fr955 to fenix. And for some reason 955 was a lot harder to use (or less intuitive).
I was just wondering if any update has helped some of these issues on the 955? Also looking at your FR265 reviews it looks like they have been resolved. Im thinking with the scrolling left and right on graphs and things like that.
I'm torn between fenix 7 / FR955 or go for the amoled screens FR265. Seems like screen vs maps is the ultimate choice but the issues with the 955 put me off a little, so leaning towards FR265.
And to add, this breadcrumbs probably enough for me as will only need this navigation for hikes I might do
Hey mate! Thanks for the comment!
There have been lots of updates since I made that video and the 955 is a much more pleasurable experience. I personally don’t think the FR265 is very good value for money.. for the same cash, I’d rather get a Suunto Race.
So for value of money I would 100% recommend the 955 solar because I’ve seen it for some fantastic prices. It’s a watch you can grow with as an athlete and you won’t hit walls and ceiling like you will quickly on the 265.. when you wondering “can I do this on my watch” it will usually be a yes with the 955 and a no with the 265 🤣
You might also want to consider looking at second hand Fenix 7’s but I have had some issues with the gps tbh which has me hesitant. To round up my answer.. if you’re definitely looking at staying with
Garmin I truly believe you can’t go wrong with the value for money of the 955, especially since all the updates it’s had since I released the video ❤️
Hope this helps mate, and if you have any more questions, feel free to ask 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas you absolute legend. Cheers for the quick and detailed response :)
Okay sounds like FR955 could be the one then! I do get some discount at Garmin so why I was going to take advantage of that. May I ask does the solar offer anything more than the standard? Other than extra charge because of the solar?
Although you've made me want to check out the suunto race now :p that looks like might have everything I'm looking for haha
How have you got on? Did you go for the 955 or Suunto race? 🙈
Been getting a few requests on this one! NAVIGATION 🧭 on the FORERUNNER 265!? JOIN me on a hike/jog journey from my garage to my gym 🤣 🗺️ Very impressed tbh. It even loaded the 268 mile Summer Spine Race course albeit with a slight bit of lag 😅🌟
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Greetings mate, this is some excellent content for us without built-in maps watches.
Question, is the Garmin breadcrump navingation enough/better than downloading and using an IQ connect application, like dwMap, wikiloc, etc? Have you done a comparison? I am interested at hiking and not running so much, also I am using a forerunner 165.
It totally depends on what you’re doing. For hiking in remote areas (what I used this for) phone signal can be terrible or completely missing. I’m pretty sure you need a stable connection & cell signal for DwMap, wikiloc etc to work!
I would say.. yes, the breadcrumb navigation by Garmin is enough to go hiking with. As I said in this video.. I used it to safely navigate through the 26 miles of the Yorkshire three peaks
Hope this helped ❤️
@ActiveIdeas thank you mate, that helps a lot. I will use the built-in breadcrumb and hopefully it goes good for hiking, have a good one.
@panos9186 you’ll be fine mate ❤️ As long as you download a reliable GPX map/route you’ll have a fantastic navigation experience.
Remember as well you’ll get back to start features and the ability to navigate towards a saved location (you could save the location of your car, tent, pub etc lol) so lots of fun to be had even though this is a cheaper Garmin model 🙏🏽👊🏽
@@ActiveIdeas Brilliant, much appreciated once more for your reply. Be well!
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Is there any possibility to remove the black bar on the 965? It pushes the arrow so much to the top that I see more of what is behind me than what's ahead.
Message me on insta and send me a video! I don’t fully understand what you mean here 🔥👊🏽
I’m so torn! Forerunner 265, Coros Pace 3 or Venu! I’m more of a runner/weightlifter so forerunner makes sense over Venu, but wow Venu is gorgeous!
Haha, yeah the Venu definitely is gorgeous! Trust your gut.. get which ever one is the best deal and I’m sure you’ll be more than happy mate ❤️
How do you create the route in the garmin app and then upload to the watch please? I’m looking at getting a forerunner 265s and want to make sure I’ve done allllll my research lol!
Have you figured this out yet Kate?
Nice content. Planning to buy 965 but i think this is enough for me without the topo. But my problem now is should i buy 265 now or wait for 275 next yr🤣
Corr! Unless you find the 265 on a good deal.. avoid at all costs! There are too many good options with Suunto race s, Coros pace pro & polar vantage m3.. plus with 275 probably coming out soon.. makes no sense to get 265 at the moment 🙈🤣
Great video thanks.
Ignoring the price difference, would you choose 265S or Fenix 7S Solar Sapphire for your own use?
I am currently deciding between the two.
That’s a tough one Joyce! I would say I’d you want better battery life, need TOPO maps then you MUST go Fenix 7s.. however if you want a 24/7 super advanced biotracker the 265s is much more comfortable for all day wear and sleeping in. Hope this helps 🌟
The fenix is definitely a more feature rich and rugged watch which is aimed more at outdoor adventuring compared to the forerunner which is mainly oriented for running and is also lighter but does have the capability to record and be of use in other sports
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Hi may I ask if this 265 also able to upload mountain or trail map/route and able to navigate during the mountain hiking?
You can upload gpx maps but these will be breadcrumb only with no "topo map" in the background which means you follow a line on.your watch. It works really well if you don't need crazy in depth navigation features.🌟
I have read that you get the turn by turn info and the gpx map if you import the gpx first in garmin connect on the web. Could you confirm pls? Thank you very much.
Yes turn by turn workd.. you'll also get the gpx too which is great. There won't be a topo map background though, it'll just be blank
Sorry about posting on an old video but does the forerunner 955 have breadcrumbs navigation that looks & behaves similar to the 265?
You’re in luck! YES 🔥 Maps on 955 are much better than 265 and have full TOPO maps as well as breadcrumbs
I’m obsessed with mine, did you use the same course to the gym in reverse? To travel back?
Hey Stefan, Same! I’ve got the 965 coming next week, I wonder if it will steal the limelight 🤣 That was the original plan, to travel back with the reverse course feature! BUT my car failed it’s MOT 😩 So I had to use the compass 🧭 to travel back home! 😉🌟
@@ActiveIdeas 😂 honestly if they made the 965 a little smaller I’d be all in. I want that titanium premium feel. I just have very small wrists 150mm so just think it would look out of place
HRV date and Sleep data any good? cheers
HRV is really good, I love it! .. Sleep data is questionable. The main issue is that it doesn’t track naps and because of this if you nap a lot (and therefore get lots of sleep) Garmin will calculate allllllll of your training readiness metrics off of one sleep per day which makes it not too accurate! All the best James 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas thank you, cheers
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Tks for the vídeo. What is your wrist size?
A pleasure mate! It’s 16.5cm on the dot 👊🏽🌟
Great video! We’re you wearing the 265 or 265s? Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the comment mate ❤️ In this video I’m using the smaller 265s
just got my 165, no one tells you to get gps lock then press the center button to access the nav functions, thanks bro
An absolute pleasure bro!! 🔥 is there anything else you’d like to know about the 165? In just about to drop a video
Talk about the the right timing. Am more of a cyclist with a edge 520 plus
The reason I got the 165 is because my old Vivoactive 3 has limited activities
Now am trying to figure out how to mirror it to my edge 520 plus 😅
Thanks again for great help. Basically Garmin videos are hopeless..😂😂
Hahahaha, I remember looking at the Garmin videos myself when I needed help. 👀 I’d have to agree, they’re getting better.. slowly 🙈 Fair play for rocking the Vivoactive 3 for so long.. that’ll forever be one of my favourite watches 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas lol good thing your video was just perfect timing.. Thanks again bro
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If you aren't paying attention and run off course down a side street, does it give you the general direction to get back on course or a turn by turn course?
This is such a good question! To the best of my knowledge if you take a catastrophic navigational error the only aid you’ll get is a compass pointing youu back into the direction to get on-course but unfortunately I don’t think the 265 would give you turn-by-turn navigation back to the course so you’d have to remember where you messed up. Very rare that you’d mess up beyond a point of no return but definitely possible! Thanks for the awesome comment Martyn! 👊🏽🌟
@@ActiveIdeas I think I'm sold on the 265 - I was going to get the 965 just for the maps but if I can use this fell running and street running then I'm in for one.
How have you found the 265?! 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas I'm saving my cash at the moment and hoping for a discount. Won't be long.
@@YaMoBeThereAbout You're not wrong, lots of good deals on eBay already too 🙈
Cool video 😊
Cheers my dude!
What’s your thoughts on 255 vs 265 dc rainmaker said trining readiness not coming to 255, can we convince garmin otherwise ? Overall feel of 265 vs 255 I feel like I want the training readiness but not willing to trade in the 255M the touch screen and display I don’t care for.
This is where Coros earns my respect quite frankly. I couldn’t see Coros having these types of software limits on perfectly able hardware. It’s not good for customers and it’s not good for the environment. I think if enough people rustled the feathers about it then, yes, Garmin could surely be tempted into bringing training readiness to the 255. But will this happen? I don’t think so unfortunately. Also there needs to be some incentive to spend more on the 265.. and as you’ve said here, you don’t care for the touch screen and display. I feel like many are in your position so my assumption is that Garmin knows it has to offer touch screen, display AND training readiness as the whole package 📦 Hope this helps D M 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas yeah I agree, the upgrade should be on the hardware and should cost $40-100 more. Will training readiness make me better, NO but I like cool things even if they released it as a $40 paid option, but having no option 🖕garmin. (They are still best option IMO)
‘Stockholm syndrome’ they call it 😉 We keep coming back
Holding watches in front of face: "I don't know what time it is" -- ok
@@VadimAndreyev can i get a time stamp, SHOW me some RECEIPTS 😅🤣
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While I'm not denying Amoled may be perfectly good enough for many people (especially those with good eyesight), the idea that is as readable as classic MIP displays outdoors/daylight is delusional. When you factor in the ridiculous hand gestures to keep the screen on during an activity and the huge impact to battery life, Amoled is a solution looking for a problem.
Gotta follow that Apple I guess. It's win/win for Garmin: higher prices and watches that will need replacements sooner because they won't get the job done eventually because of natural battery degradation.
Hahaha, I agree mate. I feel like the only person on TH-cam who's saying MIP screens do seem better out in daylight?! In fact in 90% of scenarios i'd rather have a MIP on my wrist is visibility is the goal. Absolutely delusional ;)
BUT I must admit though AMOLED has held its own in the gym and outdoors after sunset. With my wrist at angles and with indoor lighting the amoled screen is super enjoyable to use.. even in the gym mirror like 5 meters away I was able to read my heart rate in the 265s reflections.
Yeah, battery life does seem to be a problem. I'm not getting any where near Garmin's or other tech reviewers claims. I do train a lot but >5 days starts to fall into Apple Watch territory 🤣
Another great point about batter degradation. If companies do care about the environment that is another win for MIP. Have you seen my "Garmin's Next Ultra Watch" video.. I'm really hoping they have a MIP 45mm watch in the works.
Thanks for the comment and all the best 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas Yes, there will be scenarios where Amoled will shine (no pun intended). I'm not against Amoled as a tech, just doubtful that it's the right tech for this particular job when all things are considered. Closest analogy I can find is the kindle. Those e-ink displays are far from impressive-looking and they don't allow for fancy graphs or animations but they're extremely good for the intended purpose, with incredible battery life.
Anyways, thanks for the videos. I enjoy your style and your engagement here in the comment section. Have a subscribe!
@@ActiveIdeas Haha, OK just saw this video too. Now I'm confused again, I may save my 450eur after all then. I mean, by construction MIP screens get more legible the brighter it is and the opposite holds for AMOLED, we all know that. But looking at videos at runtesters where the guy wears glasses and says there was no visiiblity problem at all under Portugal sunlight and not sure what to believe. Somehow I don't think that they will let me take the watch out in the sun to test it at the local shop, so where does that leave me... Btw, did you have the brightness on auto, or high, or something else here, do you remember?
Hello from Brazil! I own the forerunner 245 and I am planning to upgrade to the 265 or 965 later this year... Probably the first price wise.
In the 265, using the navigation, is it possible to zoom in and out and move the map using the touch screen or only using buttons?
I also noticed that you get some elevation info during navegation, is it similar to Climbpro fearured in 965?
Hello Brazil, much love from the UK! My gut instinct is telling me that the upgrade from the 245 to the 265 isn’t worth it.. I’ve tested both watches and there really isn’t much difference (and the 265 is still pretty expensive). The 965 will be a massive upgrade, well worth actually parting cash with and the navigation is much better 👍🏽
With 265 you can only use buttons I believe 👊🏽
Yeah the full course elevation profile on the 265 is really cool but it’s not got much on ClimbPro.. which is much better for getting information on each individual climb 🌟
Hope all this has helped 🌟
@@ActiveIdeas thanks a lot! Lets save money for the 965 then 😅
@dycksondyorgio unfortunately this is the best move ;)
Wich one do you prefer? 265 or 955?
Soooo tough... I prefer the 265. BUT my sport of ultra running I need maps so I would have to go for the 955
What does the navigation do? Is 265 suitable to use for gym activities?
Navigation is for when you are going for a run/hike/cycle in a location which you’ve never been to before. The 265 will provide you with turn by turn navigation along with a breadcrumb trail to follow so you don’t get lost. I would say the 265 is built for gym.. although I recommend getting the 265s as it’s more comfortable for use in the gym (gets less in the way). Hope this helps 🌟
That screen turning off every few seconds and having to touch the screen or push a button=☠️
True 🤣 although these settings can be slightly changed and elongated in the settings.. at the cost of even less battery life 🌟
To be honest, this isn't that impressive considering my ageing forerunner 935 can do this and the Suunto ambit 3 I once owned also. With the forerunner 245 is was a bit harder because that one doesn't have a compass and you always had to move to get the breadcrumb in the correct orientation. The 255 solved that.
Really no need to spend money on a forerunner 265 for anything that is shown in this video, if you already own a slightly older mi/top range forerunner.
The hard parts are with y junctions, but you notice quick enough that you deviate from the course, or when you have to decide is the turn just before the river crossing or just over.
You bring up some great points here.. I forgot the 245 didn't have a compass so this is definitely welcomed! But yeah I do agree that the 265 does fall into a very weird category of costing loads of money but not really offering any practical functional benefits over the older models.. I mean it's funny that even the 935 would give it a run for it's money.. and looking over to Coros you can save hundreds if you're not worried about turn by turn notifications.
Yeah Y junctions are where issues happen.. tbh even with TOPO maps on the Fenix 7 I've taken the wrong turning many times at junctions like these (granted my hopeless with navigation).
Thanks for the comments Leo 🌟
955 is better full maps always on display
Both have an AOD but yeah.. TOPO and amazing battery life on the 955 is hard to pass by on 🌟
Full maps? What do u mean?
They mean TOPO maps rather than just a bread crumb trail. Hope this helps 🌟
@spikeweb5193 well forerunner 955 has full detail maps of the world with MIP screen and is about 50 euro more than the forerunner 265 but the 265 has amoled screen but not map detail
@@smothyism I'm just wondering between one and the other watch and I'm looking for information if, apart from amoled and probably a bit of appearance, they differ in something else? Any functions?
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How do you create the route in the garmin app and then upload to the watch please? I’m looking at getting a forerunner 265s and want to make sure I’ve done allllll my research lol!
Click on Garmin connect app > more > training and planning > courses! It’s abit buried in the app but once you click on these you’ll be able to organise your imported GPX maps or create one of your own 🔥 Hope this helps