oh also, I'm in the process of uploading all the little joel videos to Nebula. So if you wanna watch them there, they'll be ad free and available in a few days!
@@lautaroescarlon7501 he said in that video that he would post them on his Patreon, that they won't disappear. I think it would be nice to have them archived in Nebula as well. For folks that can only afford one subscription (such as myself), it would be handy as each option has pros that the other doesn't have and vice versa. But that's just my opinion as an avid little joel enjoyer currently in college. From his perspective, tho, it may not make much sense for financial and/or other reasons, and that's ok :)
Lack of any real interest in the subject beyond putting them into a stereotypical box that can be dismissed and scolded is kinda the core identity of Dr. Phil
Behind the Bastards did an incredible episode on "Dr." Phil. It's titled "Dr. Phil Is Even Worse Than You Think And You Probably Think He Sucks." They coin the term "he should be fed through a human shredder live on his own show" or something to that effect. Very funny. Very bastard.
It’s the same for Nancy Grace or “cringe culture” or Maury or etc…. Presenting troubled or weird people to an audience to be torn down, to make viewers feel better because at least they aren’t the “bad” person being mocked on stage. It’s a whole genre of absolutely toxic television that pretends to be educational.
@@maxwellbowman4084 A good amount of tv shows are like that lol. Extreme cheapskates, my 600 pound life, strange addictions. There are a lot of people who go "thank god I'm not like them" and it's a bit off-putting how little compassion people have sometimes. At the end of the day the only one who can save you is yourself, but the lack of empathy is concerning to me.
Gee I wonder why, couldn't be the low pay for long hours, no vacation, and the shitty treatment of workers. Must be the laziness of the new generation.
Back in the day, people were worked over 12 hours in a factory for scraps while being killed a maimed by machinery and poisoned by toxins. These lazy zoomers don't know how good they got it flipping burgers for minimum wage. (Sarcasm)
He is literally an influencer. He offers no professional advise, wisdom, or services, and makes money off of people liking his personality. The textbook definition of an influencer
@@therabbithat I mean, he's already making content exploiting strangers via pranks. He gets a taste of some sweet, sweet content profit... He did say he would do literally anything to succeed
One of my bestest friends dropped out of college three months in to live in his families basement and spend most of the day playing video games and smoking weed. It turned out he had crippling anxiety and couldn’t handle being that far away from his family. I later found out his dad had really severe mental illness and was constantly going in and out of the hospital as well as rehab. It could have been so easy for people to judge him but he got help and support and now he’s back in school and doing a lot better. It’s so sad how so so many people could be thriving so much more if people were even just a little more willing to put aside their judgments and try to meet people where they’re at.
I think a lot of people underestimate anxiety until they see/hear of someone like your friend. It can really affect ability to function. I’m glad he got help
@@idontwantahandlethough lmao first I thought "that's an unnecessarily mean comment" then I saw the name of the guy you replied and thought "Aww, what a nice comment :)"
the thing that immediately stood out to me was when he said "as long as he goes to college and makes a social media career without exploiting people"--- HUH??? why did he add the clause without exploiting people as if that isn't exactly what Dr. Phils entire career is built off of? It was genuinely so weird it throws me off so much lol
Phil could've been like "getting a simple job will allow you to buy better camera equipment, props, software, lights, filming locations etc so you can make better videos" or "at college you can study media and marketing to help you gain skills and networking opportunities that will help you do what you want to do at a professional level" You know, fairly standard advice.
The wildest part of this is if Aaron was talking about being an entrepreneur in any other metric, Phil would be 100% in support. He just doesn't like new things
It's peak Boomerism. He's more comfortable with the idea of a person aspiring to be a strictly-mediocre cog at the Business Factory (because that's safe and familiar) than he is with the idea of a person being potentially above-average at something that seems new-fangled, frivolous, and weird. I'm reminded of when Dr. Phil advised an aspiring furry artist to only do art as a fun lil' side hobby, despite many good furry artists and fursuit makers making absolute bank. Mind you, I am a huge fan of having a safety net and a backup plan (including having a college degree or the equivalent and some basic job skills). But, I think a person can be practical or pragmatic without giving up on their dreams and aspirations, and I think it's "cringe" when old people try to advise the younger generation about a cultural, political, and technological landscape that the youths actually tend to understand better!
@@dinosaysrawr good lord, has he ever seen commission prices on furry art??? Like I can't draw fursonas for shit, I do cartoony doodles as a hobby, but I've still gotten decent cash and extremely grateful customers on the rare few times I've been approached for it. Furries are generous as hell
It's the paradox of all the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric. They say it's all about working as hard as you can and succeeding on your own strength alone... but only if you do it in this one particular way that we approve of. This kid says he's willing to work hard and do anything to achieve his dream, but it's not okay because he's working hard in a way Dr. Phil doesn't like, so he berates him for it. It's not about hard work, it's about maintaining the status quo.
the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" was originally used specifically because of its absurdity. You have to basically ignore the entirity of human innovation and culture to believe its useful advice.
I'm pretty sure he thought that she proved his point that his mom was babying her son, so his moving on was like "checkmate, anyway here's a TikTok I was involved in."
Genuinely a badass moment from the mom. The best possible response to a question as gross and disrespectful as "why do you wanna care for your kid when I think he's stupid and useless?"
"let's say you had 10,000 daily views - which you don't - but let's say you did" the fact that he didn't even need to say that, but he went for the low blow anyway, and then FOLLOWED UP with a "i made a tiktok that got millions of views! you can't do that!" It's so weird seeing people actually having this even on the TV in their houses still. He's a dinosaur.
I used to watch this show (yeah cringe) years ago and if there's one thing that really stuck with me, it's the fact that Phil mentioned many times how when his sons turned 18, he would throw them out and cut them off, because it was time for them to fend for themselves. I don't know if any of that was true, but I always thought it said a lot about him as a person that he kept boasting about supposedly having done this.
that's kinda cruel. i moved out quickly myself but my mother and I stay in contact and we support each other. why would you abandon your kids when they need you in their first steps of adult life?
Standard American hyper-individualism. Thousands of years of human history and hundreds of other cultures that emphasize family and building generational wealth and Americans are like "Nah, fuck all that, pull yourself up by your bootstraps!"
I haven't been to therapy, but I think I can add a similar, likely, what-if scenario: "My parents used to beat me every day, after school..." "Well... maybe you did something to make them do that to you."
arent you that guy that stalks the comments of every hasan video just repeating "why cant we just condemn hamas and forgive small bean israel" and such?
I actually find it absolutely hilarious the idea that Dr Phil would switch the episode subject about halfway through, where he's dunking on this kid for half the episode and trying to explain how he'll never succeed, and then suddenly Dr Phil shifts focus and he's trying to show everyone how Dr PHIL will on the other hand, definitely succeed and just begins shamelessly promoting his own starry-eyed pursuit of becoming a TikTok star
There are lots of older episodes in which teens hope to be recognized and rich, and doctor phil used to tell them that they were delusional, that their pursuit was hurting others. But now that he has the exact same aspiration, his message and approach is a weird mix of dunking on their failures and comparing his success to them.
The ironic thing about Dr. Phil's pretend therapy show is that with every new clip I see of him it unintentionally reveals more and more about his own profound insecurities as a person.
i'm so thankful my parents wanted and could support me throughout my twenties when i was super depressed and unsure where to go in life. i did get a normal job and didn't follow my dream, though.
I had a major, severe depressive episode in my early 20's and an ovarian cyst that burst at the same time. My parents asked why I was wasting my life. So I dropped out of medschool and now I live 1500km away. I'm happier than I've ever been! Moral of the story: support the people you love if you want them to succeed and love you back.
i never understood his format of a show. he's just publicly shaming everyone who is different than him. and the parents also just let their kids get made fun of by an old man. i would never take that disrespect, especially against my own child.
An old man who most likely agrees with them and takes "their side" in these situations? I can see a lot of parents allowing Phil to patronize their kids.
Phil's problem with the kid's mom supporting him while he's in college is the fact that it means he doesn't have to do Labor while he's there. Phil conceptualizes the human male as a Labor machine. If a human male isn't doing labor Phil finds valuable (Labor), this separation from its true purpose has rendered it broken, and it can only be fixed by making it do Labor.
Nevermind the labor of studying, attending classes, taking notes, working on projects, writing essays, etc, etc, ETC... like getting a degree just takes time, but no frikken effort?!?!?!
@@suzbone And then there's the labor of making videos that entertain hundreds of people. But it's "just" on the internet, and "only" hundreds of people, and argle bargle bargle.
I didn't have a job in college and only worked during the summer. I don't know how college students balance working and college. I barely made it through all my courses because college was really stressful. With a job I probably would have failed most of my stuff. I feel so bad for people who have to work while studying.
@@caseyw.6550 the joke was "You're going to need a doctor." That Phil, after being told hes lost his job, made a pun given his professional name of Dr. Phil. The joke was 100% not on Phil at all and him pretending that it was is sad
@@pigpotty Imagine being so self-absorbed that believing being PART of a joke makes you the butt of the joke. Not to mention that practical jokes are an unbelievably popular form of entertainment and have always been popular. So Dr. Phil is basically saying, exploiting the sad, broken, and mentally ill on TV is awesome entertainment, making somebody feel sorry for a blind person is terrible and doesn't count as entertainment.
That Dr. Phil tik tok is completely unhinged. The fact that he says he’s the butt of the joke alone is deranged. There was no joke. It was just two men who do not understand comedy bumbling their way through, what I can only think to call a pseudo-skit.
"Dr." Phil probably did all this just to show off his cringe Tiktok video. Such a sad person who doesn't even seem like he gives a damn about genuinely helping people, it's all scolding.
I find myself relating to Erin here, I also wanted to avoid getting a "real job" and focus on my art when I was his age. I think these kind of feeling come from having a bad school experience and a bad experience with "entry-level" jobs. It took a while for me to find a job I actually liked, a job that allowed me plenty of time to work on my art on the side. Even though I have a degree, I'm not sure if it's helped me much at all, and I'll always consider my art my "real job", even if I'm not making any money on it. I don't really know what the right advice is in this situation.
i think the right advice is to not focus your entire existence around being a fungible worker unit, instead find a way to live that is fullfilling. Also workers need something...anything that will increase the value of their labour. and in your small way of wanting to dedicate time to personal creations, you are doing that very thing.
A person doesn’t have to be licensed to be a doctor. A person who only has a master’s degree must be licensed (in some states) to have a practice as a therapist and right, Dr. Phil no longer has a license to practice psychotherapy 😊.
This is a theme with a lot of Dr. Phils videos. A person is only considered worthy of anything, when he does paid labor. A person's worth is based on the amount of money the person makes. Those are his believes.
watching a room full of adults applaud for the on-stage showing of a violently mediocre tiktok makes me feel emotions i cannot even begin to comprehend
So the guy wanted to be an Influencer and Dr. Phil's reaction is basically: 'I am better at that than you are.' You kind of have to appreciate the purity of that egomaniacal gesture.
i find it interesting how Dr. Phil is clearly a conservative show, and how conservatism usually touts the “American Dream” as an amazing and real thing. However, when the youtuber dude wants to actually pursue this dream, to the point where it’s quotes that he will “Do absolutely anything to make his dream come true.” However, Dr. Phil shits on this dream and just tells him to get a job. Proof the american dream isn’t real when even a conservative ass show doesn’t believe it
"Why do you have to support him if he's in college?" Because US colleges' financial aid policies are based on the assumption that parents are paying, so if he does go to college he's on the hook for the full amount you would have been able to pay, if not more. And that's if you're still helping him fill out the paperwork-- if you keep that info from him, he'll have to take out enough loans for the full amount. That's why. I agree that to an extent hard work builds character, but 5-6 figures of unnecessary debt does not. (Edit: if your response to this is to say that the system is too messed up and kids should be going to trade school instead or whatever, I think that's fair! However, in this particular case both the parents and Dr. Phil treat the idea of college as an unquestioned good, and I am responding to their point of view specifically.)
Hes too old to realize how broken the education system is. I wouldn't be surprised if his parents sent him to school for free and they paid for it while also having blue collar jobs. That's what happens when you are 75 years old or whatever. You apply your outdated ideas to modern times, which was always bad, and is becoming increasingly catastrophic as the world moves faster and faster
Here in the UK the amount of financial assistance the government will give you for living expenses while at university is literally based off your parents income. That being that if your parents earn below a certain amount you get more money and above a certain amount you get less. The assumption is that if your parents have the means to do so, they should support you financially or have planned some form of savings for you to utilise while studying. Doctor Phil is literally worse than a Tory, conservative government in his attitude on the matter which is saying something!
me: gets woken up by something loud lays in bed for another 40 minutes finally gets up grumpily unable to get back to sleep on my saturday morning wonders if Little Joel has made a video just for me at this specific time checks subscription feed thank you joel, I knew you loved me
@@jimmybean420 It's a Koyama painting, titled "fox.", yes, in all lowercase and with a period at the end, made in 1981. I know because that's my profile pic on Instagram.
"I'm unsure if pretending to be Mr Magoo is offensive to the blind, but I *can see* how it might be tasteless" I see what you did there Joel you can't hide from us
It's crazy how similar my parents made me feel about my own dreams - they crushed them and made them feel impossible while trying to make me "grounded and reasonable"
Without knowing anything about your situation I will just say it’s tough for a parent to know the statistics of how many people are successful in something like this and how many people aren’t, and not want to prevent you from failing. Like it’s easy when you’re young to feel like you’re special enough to be the one that succeeds. But reality is there are many more that don’t. So it’s reasonable to make sure as an older person that the young person at least has a backup.
I feel the same way about people not physically attacking Donald Trump. Dr. McGraw is merely better at hiding his toxic mentality and the way he treats others; or rather, he thinks he's a pretty good actor when it comes to hiding his bad behavior. Some of us can see him clearly though.
The public who watches Dr Phil is absolutely chomping at the bit to understand how TH-cam monetization works. The infinite amount of middle-age soccer moms can not comprehend how money could possibly come from “nothing”. My own parents ask me how money is made on TH-cam every few weeks either because they forget or because they simply cannot comprehend the fact that it’s true one can get paid for simply making little cartoons or filming marbles running down a track. The wider public does not understand how TH-cam works, much less do they believe in it, and Dr Phil exploits this hole of knowledge in society to make it seem like the issue at hand is more dire or important than it actually is
"Why do you have to support him?" Because he didn't ask to be born, so as a parent, it is incumbent on you to support him at least through childhood? We can quibble a little bit about where childhood ends but like...kids owe parents nothing, because they didn't decide to be born.
It’s funny how much denial he’s in that his tic tok did so well specially because of a generation who finds him ironically funny and know about him through TH-camrs and not his show
He is the influencer (his actual job title) equivalent of Old Man Yells at Clouds. We find his yelling at clouds funny, not what he says to the clouds, and we certainly don't respect what he has to say to the clouds
i love how he even tried to break down his profound comedy in the tiktok. yes im sure it got that many views because of your exceptional comedy writing skills..
A lot of us have Dr.Phil moments where we sincerely see ourselves as helping others or informing someone of their wrong doing but really we’re using it as an opportunity to see ourselves as doing good & put others down. any help we give is incidental to that goal and its all to easy to convince ourselves otherwise. Helping people in a way that’s actually patient and kind and rooted in a desire to understand without centering ourselves in the interaction is super hard. I’m sure Dr.Phil truly sees himself as just giving it to them straight in a way they need to hear without asking himself if it could be done in a way that’s gentler.
Being gentler and kinder wouldn't make for as good television for him. Really, in a major way that's what it comes down to; the image of being a stern guiding figure 'telling it like it is' in a relatively dramatic fashion where people can feel he put someone in their place etc.
Oh man, finally with the fifth video being uploaded, the whole Joel's Dr. Phil saga is available for free. I do have Nebula, but I'm happy that now everyone can experience the whole anthology.
My friends who didn't have their family's support in college and didn't get scholarships, worked full-time jobs, and one even missed some classes to work. It was rough.
I would like to thank the algorithm for putting this video at the top of my list. Haven't even seen any of your other videos, but I already know I want to subscribe!
Phil (not calling him a doctor here) is a conservative and I believe his reaction to the mom supporting him in college is some sort of belief that one should earn their own way into college and work to pay only for themselves while in college and... Basically Phil is out of touch with how insanely expensive things have gotten.
Same. It’s not because I think I’m “above it” I just don’t like the idea of being in a dirty, possibly toxic work environment that would constantly drain me. I’d be fine with working in like a library or museum.
The actual weird stuff to me is that Phil is just in entertainment business as well. I mean, that's all he does here. That's not educational or proper psychotherapy or councelling. It's just having people talk stuff in a room and then telling them that they are wrong and somehow people laugh at them.
As cringe as he was, I stuck through because I was expecting the bit to have some worthwhile punchline since it was supposedly done by a major tiktok creator. It didn't, it was the worst joke I've ever heard.
@@virtheon mmm I think it’s a solid joke/gag (hear me out), but not delivered right and unoriginal and it needed at least one joke more that would’ve been more original, more creative and and would’ve been the real punchline, however “Dr” Phil doesn’t even know where the joke is nor how to deliver it. Nor does he realize the joke that Big Joel is pointing out through Little Joel’s humble but transcendent TH-cam channel, like what was the point of sharing this clip at all?
I didn't realise big joel was an actual channel, i thought it was just a joke like medium joel. I've watched so many little joel videos. How did i miss this...
I WISH I'd had somebody to tell me to do something creative with my life even if it was risky, instead of wasting four years and £25k on the super safe alternative of getting a degree that never got me even one job.
So I'm only 19, I dropped out of highschool at 17 for really, really bad mental health. I've recovered and have thought about going back to school, not sure honestly. I feel like other jobs got so demonised when I was growing up "if you don't go to further education, you'll be nothing in life". I'm in a position where I can access some trade job apprenticeships and stuff like that, I don't know man, school just isn't for everyone. You don't have to go to college, that doesn't make you a failure it just makes you someone who doesn't want that for their life. I still feel like a failure because it's so ingrained in me, at the end of the day though money is money, pick something you have some resonance with and go at it. And pursue those dreams, but have some backups, I feel so much more at ease and secure now pursuing my artistic passions, now that I have work and some more work in the future as a nice safety net. I'm learning to sew clothes and stuff really cool right?
Tbh I immediately assumed that the guy probably has an understandable reason to be avoiding college and conventional employment. I generally can't handle those either because most schools and workplaces do not accommodate any of my disabilities and nuerodivergencies. I would bet good money that the guy in this video would have an equally valid reason if Phil cared to ask.
Remember the advice that Dr. Phil gave to the “Cash Me Outside” girl, and how she was throwing her life away acting out online. She is now a multi millionaire. JS. 😬
One of the most annoying things about Dr Phil is him constantly talking about how parents should stop supporting their kids when they turn 18 but he bought his sons their own houses....
6:44 Now that's some viral content right there, Dr. Phil out to consider going on the You Toks as a full time gig. Comedy gold yon tap right there Dr. Phil
Yeah, and if Phil's advocating that the parents don't support their kid while in college, why is there even a conversation about whether he stays in school or pursues a content creator career? Why would they have any say in his choice if they dropped him regardless?
by the intermediate value theorem, this new Little Joel TH-cam video about a Big Joel Nebula video allows us to reliably predict that there exists a Regular Joel channel on Skillshare. in this essay i will
Dr. Phil telling someone to make money without exploiting other people is pretty rich, considering he profits off the public humiliation of each of his "guests".
oh also, I'm in the process of uploading all the little joel videos to Nebula. So if you wanna watch them there, they'll be ad free and available in a few days!
including the deleted videos?
@@lautaroescarlon7501 the silence from Little Joel is telling, like a sly politician he refuses to answer what the people truly want to know
Niceee, love using nebular
@@lautaroescarlon7501 he said in that video that he would post them on his Patreon, that they won't disappear. I think it would be nice to have them archived in Nebula as well. For folks that can only afford one subscription (such as myself), it would be handy as each option has pros that the other doesn't have and vice versa. But that's just my opinion as an avid little joel enjoyer currently in college. From his perspective, tho, it may not make much sense for financial and/or other reasons, and that's ok :)
yay!
i feel like at this point we can’t deny the existence of medium joel
He reveals himself once a month like a werewolf.
medium joel
Came hear to make this comment
Psychic Joel
Just don’t call him mid joel
Lack of any real interest in the subject beyond putting them into a stereotypical box that can be dismissed and scolded is kinda the core identity of Dr. Phil
Behind the Bastards did an incredible episode on "Dr." Phil. It's titled "Dr. Phil Is Even Worse Than You Think And You Probably Think He Sucks."
They coin the term "he should be fed through a human shredder live on his own show" or something to that effect. Very funny. Very bastard.
i mean no wonder he got 2/10 on imdb
he doesn't care though, he still gets paid millions for running a shitty reality tv show
It’s the same for Nancy Grace or “cringe culture” or Maury or etc…. Presenting troubled or weird people to an audience to be torn down, to make viewers feel better because at least they aren’t the “bad” person being mocked on stage. It’s a whole genre of absolutely toxic television that pretends to be educational.
@@maxwellbowman4084 A good amount of tv shows are like that lol. Extreme cheapskates, my 600 pound life, strange addictions. There are a lot of people who go "thank god I'm not like them" and it's a bit off-putting how little compassion people have sometimes. At the end of the day the only one who can save you is yourself, but the lack of empathy is concerning to me.
@@brookejon3695 that video is gone cancel culture strikes again
I seriously think that Dr. Phil is in the pocket of Big “No one wants to work these days.”
Gee I wonder why, couldn't be the low pay for long hours, no vacation, and the shitty treatment of workers. Must be the laziness of the new generation.
It's like all those freeloaders back in the day who just wanted to stand around and be on TV
and is anyone surprised
thats such a good way to put it, I couldn’t agree more
Back in the day, people were worked over 12 hours in a factory for scraps while being killed a maimed by machinery and poisoned by toxins. These lazy zoomers don't know how good they got it flipping burgers for minimum wage. (Sarcasm)
The irony of the TV "doctor" telling a young man to abandon his dreams and hey a real job seems to escape him.
He’s not even registered anymore as a clinical psychologist, so even more irony bleeding here
And not to exploit people 🤦🏻♀️
He is literally an influencer. He offers no professional advise, wisdom, or services, and makes money off of people liking his personality. The textbook definition of an influencer
@@skeetsmcgrew3282 yeah but the kid could never be enough of an unethical sadist to make money like a Dr. Phil or a Jeremy Kyle
@@therabbithat I mean, he's already making content exploiting strangers via pranks. He gets a taste of some sweet, sweet content profit... He did say he would do literally anything to succeed
One of my bestest friends dropped out of college three months in to live in his families basement and spend most of the day playing video games and smoking weed. It turned out he had crippling anxiety and couldn’t handle being that far away from his family. I later found out his dad had really severe mental illness and was constantly going in and out of the hospital as well as rehab. It could have been so easy for people to judge him but he got help and support and now he’s back in school and doing a lot better. It’s so sad how so so many people could be thriving so much more if people were even just a little more willing to put aside their judgments and try to meet people where they’re at.
Im judging you for staying friends with that person tbh sounds like an absolute neek
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@@brain_cell what a nice little brain cell!
I think a lot of people underestimate anxiety until they see/hear of someone like your friend. It can really affect ability to function. I’m glad he got help
@@idontwantahandlethough lmao first I thought "that's an unnecessarily mean comment" then I saw the name of the guy you replied and thought "Aww, what a nice comment :)"
the thing that immediately stood out to me was when he said "as long as he goes to college and makes a social media career without exploiting people"--- HUH??? why did he add the clause without exploiting people as if that isn't exactly what Dr. Phils entire career is built off of? It was genuinely so weird it throws me off so much lol
Because he doesn't want more competition on the exploting people endevours.
Yeah that part was absolutely wild.
Well, I think it's because the guy makes prank videos, but yeah.
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@@Furiac. regardless, Dr. Phil does the exact same thing.
Phil could've been like "getting a simple job will allow you to buy better camera equipment, props, software, lights, filming locations etc so you can make better videos" or "at college you can study media and marketing to help you gain skills and networking opportunities that will help you do what you want to do at a professional level"
You know, fairly standard advice.
Glad to see Little Joel colabing with big creators like Big Joel
Big Joel is so generous for taking on the little creators like Little Joel.
@@aaronpolichar7936 Actually, I heard there was beef between the two, I think little joel was talking shit about big joel? That's just what I heard
The wildest part of this is if Aaron was talking about being an entrepreneur in any other metric, Phil would be 100% in support. He just doesn't like new things
Especially new things that might compete with his role on an established stage.
Eliminating the competition
It's peak Boomerism. He's more comfortable with the idea of a person aspiring to be a strictly-mediocre cog at the Business Factory (because that's safe and familiar) than he is with the idea of a person being potentially above-average at something that seems new-fangled, frivolous, and weird.
I'm reminded of when Dr. Phil advised an aspiring furry artist to only do art as a fun lil' side hobby, despite many good furry artists and fursuit makers making absolute bank.
Mind you, I am a huge fan of having a safety net and a backup plan (including having a college degree or the equivalent and some basic job skills). But, I think a person can be practical or pragmatic without giving up on their dreams and aspirations, and I think it's "cringe" when old people try to advise the younger generation about a cultural, political, and technological landscape that the youths actually tend to understand better!
@@dinosaysrawr good lord, has he ever seen commission prices on furry art??? Like I can't draw fursonas for shit, I do cartoony doodles as a hobby, but I've still gotten decent cash and extremely grateful customers on the rare few times I've been approached for it. Furries are generous as hell
@@darkshadowrule2952 , clearly, he has not! He also doesn't appear to know the going price for the average fursuit, either!
It's the paradox of all the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" rhetoric. They say it's all about working as hard as you can and succeeding on your own strength alone... but only if you do it in this one particular way that we approve of. This kid says he's willing to work hard and do anything to achieve his dream, but it's not okay because he's working hard in a way Dr. Phil doesn't like, so he berates him for it. It's not about hard work, it's about maintaining the status quo.
exactly.
Phil’s solution to any given problem is to conform to society more. Or at least his idea of what society should look like.
the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" was originally used specifically because of its absurdity.
You have to basically ignore the entirity of human innovation and culture to believe its useful advice.
@Butt Socks what's the point of the saying then?
@@skachor wikitionary says it was meant to mean an impossible task originally.
I think hearing her say" that's my baby" and then him just moving on from that point is a lot more telling than anything else
That part was really cute. She's a nice mom.
I'm pretty sure he thought that she proved his point that his mom was babying her son, so his moving on was like "checkmate, anyway here's a TikTok I was involved in."
His parents were shit, so he can't wrap his head around the idea of a parent wanting to love and support their son or daughter.
Genuinely a badass moment from the mom. The best possible response to a question as gross and disrespectful as "why do you wanna care for your kid when I think he's stupid and useless?"
"let's say you had 10,000 daily views - which you don't - but let's say you did"
the fact that he didn't even need to say that, but he went for the low blow anyway, and then FOLLOWED UP with a "i made a tiktok that got millions of views! you can't do that!"
It's so weird seeing people actually having this even on the TV in their houses still. He's a dinosaur.
That's literally why dinosaur households love him.
People need a bastion of Jurassic comfort in a world leaving them behind like a busted old car
I used to watch this show (yeah cringe) years ago and if there's one thing that really stuck with me, it's the fact that Phil mentioned many times how when his sons turned 18, he would throw them out and cut them off, because it was time for them to fend for themselves. I don't know if any of that was true, but I always thought it said a lot about him as a person that he kept boasting about supposedly having done this.
my parents did this. they're awful people. it seems to be a common right wing thing
@@jowilson5581 mine too... My stepmom (and dad it's a long story...) hates trump 💀😭 the brain rot is absolutely bipartisan (in some cases)
Also, IIRC at least one of his kids works for him. So....
that's kinda cruel. i moved out quickly myself but my mother and I stay in contact and we support each other. why would you abandon your kids when they need you in their first steps of adult life?
Standard American hyper-individualism. Thousands of years of human history and hundreds of other cultures that emphasize family and building generational wealth and Americans are like "Nah, fuck all that, pull yourself up by your bootstraps!"
Dr Phil is like every bad therapist I have had. You have problems? We'll have you tried.. not having them
fr and imagine getting a doctoral degree in the field to ignore first year psychology concepts 🤦🏻♀️
ha ha
I haven't been to therapy, but I think I can add a similar, likely, what-if scenario:
"My parents used to beat me every day, after school..."
"Well... maybe you did something to make them do that to you."
arent you that guy that stalks the comments of every hasan video just repeating "why cant we just condemn hamas and forgive small bean israel" and such?
@@the1truejoe178 Something switched in the turtle chad, all the comments i see from them now are super bitter and weird
I actually find it absolutely hilarious the idea that Dr Phil would switch the episode subject about halfway through, where he's dunking on this kid for half the episode and trying to explain how he'll never succeed, and then suddenly Dr Phil shifts focus and he's trying to show everyone how Dr PHIL will on the other hand, definitely succeed and just begins shamelessly promoting his own starry-eyed pursuit of becoming a TikTok star
There are lots of older episodes in which teens hope to be recognized and rich, and doctor phil used to tell them that they were delusional, that their pursuit was hurting others. But now that he has the exact same aspiration, his message and approach is a weird mix of dunking on their failures and comparing his success to them.
Okay but the mom's "he's my baby!" Was so heartwarming
Yes, she seems so sweet, I love her.
The ironic thing about Dr. Phil's pretend therapy show is that with every new clip I see of him it unintentionally reveals more and more about his own profound insecurities as a person.
he's a huge creep like almost as bad as jordan peterson
i'm so thankful my parents wanted and could support me throughout my twenties when i was super depressed and unsure where to go in life. i did get a normal job and didn't follow my dream, though.
And Dr. Phill absolutely did that for his kids. I have no doubt.
@@caseyw.6550 I really hope so, altho he did brag that he'd cut his kids off at 18.
@@caseyw.6550 Why would you think that? He's a prick who boasts about throwing his kids out of the house at 18 and cutting them off. He's a POS.
I had a major, severe depressive episode in my early 20's and an ovarian cyst that burst at the same time. My parents asked why I was wasting my life. So I dropped out of medschool and now I live 1500km away. I'm happier than I've ever been!
Moral of the story: support the people you love if you want them to succeed and love you back.
i never understood his format of a show. he's just publicly shaming everyone who is different than him. and the parents also just let their kids get made fun of by an old man. i would never take that disrespect, especially against my own child.
Exactly. And for him to act like he didn't support his own kids in their early adulthood is beyond belief.
you ever see those old timey wooden things they'd lock someones head and arms in?
@@ince55ant ...oh no.
An old man who most likely agrees with them and takes "their side" in these situations? I can see a lot of parents allowing Phil to patronize their kids.
Well, they knew the deal when they got paid to be on his show. It's not like he came up to them in Walmart and started criticizing their parenting.
Phil's problem with the kid's mom supporting him while he's in college is the fact that it means he doesn't have to do Labor while he's there. Phil conceptualizes the human male as a Labor machine. If a human male isn't doing labor Phil finds valuable (Labor), this separation from its true purpose has rendered it broken, and it can only be fixed by making it do Labor.
Nevermind the labor of studying, attending classes, taking notes, working on projects, writing essays, etc, etc, ETC... like getting a degree just takes time, but no frikken effort?!?!?!
@@suzbone And then there's the labor of making videos that entertain hundreds of people. But it's "just" on the internet, and "only" hundreds of people, and argle bargle bargle.
I can only wonder what role racism plays in Phil's expectations of that young man, too
@@suzbone Maybe that's why he brought up not exploiting people while he has a show that regularly exploits people 🤔
I didn't have a job in college and only worked during the summer. I don't know how college students balance working and college. I barely made it through all my courses because college was really stressful. With a job I probably would have failed most of my stuff. I feel so bad for people who have to work while studying.
the laugh that left me when dr phil just decided to start showing off his tiktoks. oh my god.
Omg so painful 😂
what a genuinely psychotic thing to do lmao
The wall of tv screens with people clapping after he showed his ridiculous TikTok... Holy hell.
It's wild that dr phil described that tiktok video as the joke being on him. That was super cringe.
Was the joke just "haha I'm old"?
@@caseyw.6550 the joke was "You're going to need a doctor." That Phil, after being told hes lost his job, made a pun given his professional name of Dr. Phil. The joke was 100% not on Phil at all and him pretending that it was is sad
@@pigpotty Imagine being so self-absorbed that believing being PART of a joke makes you the butt of the joke. Not to mention that practical jokes are an unbelievably popular form of entertainment and have always been popular. So Dr. Phil is basically saying, exploiting the sad, broken, and mentally ill on TV is awesome entertainment, making somebody feel sorry for a blind person is terrible and doesn't count as entertainment.
That Dr. Phil tik tok is completely unhinged. The fact that he says he’s the butt of the joke alone is deranged. There was no joke. It was just two men who do not understand comedy bumbling their way through, what I can only think to call a pseudo-skit.
I seriously struggle with both traditional work and school, I would've loved to see that being seriously discussed instead of shamed.
"Dr." Phil probably did all this just to show off his cringe Tiktok video. Such a sad person who doesn't even seem like he gives a damn about genuinely helping people, it's all scolding.
And then everyone clapped 😭😭😭😭💀
So uncomfortable.
I find myself relating to Erin here, I also wanted to avoid getting a "real job" and focus on my art when I was his age. I think these kind of feeling come from having a bad school experience and a bad experience with "entry-level" jobs. It took a while for me to find a job I actually liked, a job that allowed me plenty of time to work on my art on the side. Even though I have a degree, I'm not sure if it's helped me much at all, and I'll always consider my art my "real job", even if I'm not making any money on it. I don't really know what the right advice is in this situation.
i think the right advice is to not focus your entire existence around being a fungible worker unit, instead find a way to live that is fullfilling. Also workers need something...anything that will increase the value of their labour. and in your small way of wanting to dedicate time to personal creations, you are doing that very thing.
Phil showing his tiktok where he gets asked if he's a real doctor is pretty bold, considering he isn't actually licensed.
A person doesn’t have to be licensed to be a doctor. A person who only has a master’s degree must be licensed (in some states) to have a practice as a therapist and right, Dr. Phil no longer has a license to practice psychotherapy 😊.
This is a theme with a lot of Dr. Phils videos. A person is only considered worthy of anything, when he does paid labor.
A person's worth is based on the amount of money the person makes. Those are his believes.
As I watch this I'm roleplaying as someone who bought Nebula.
watching a room full of adults applaud for the on-stage showing of a violently mediocre tiktok makes me feel emotions i cannot even begin to comprehend
So the guy wanted to be an Influencer and Dr. Phil's reaction is basically: 'I am better at that than you are.' You kind of have to appreciate the purity of that egomaniacal gesture.
a big joel and little joel collab..... a wonderful time for us all
They're both merging into Medium Joel I think.
It's inspiring to see that they put their differences aside.
I just noticed you have two copies of the same girl+cat painting, and I'm absolutely here for it
Little Joel doesn't, but Big Joel does.
I feel like the one on the left is an amateur copy, perhaps painted by one of the various sized Joels?
i find it interesting how Dr. Phil is clearly a conservative show, and how conservatism usually touts the “American Dream” as an amazing and real thing. However, when the youtuber dude wants to actually pursue this dream, to the point where it’s quotes that he will “Do absolutely anything to make his dream come true.” However, Dr. Phil shits on this dream and just tells him to get a job. Proof the american dream isn’t real when even a conservative ass show doesn’t believe it
medium joel is real, he's just on Nebula
He talks to ghosts too
dr. phil's judgement and abuse show.
"without exploiting other people.."
Dr Phil, your entire TV show IS exploitation hiding behind a fancy suite. You are an undercover Jerry Springer.
"Why do you have to support him if he's in college?" Because US colleges' financial aid policies are based on the assumption that parents are paying, so if he does go to college he's on the hook for the full amount you would have been able to pay, if not more. And that's if you're still helping him fill out the paperwork-- if you keep that info from him, he'll have to take out enough loans for the full amount. That's why. I agree that to an extent hard work builds character, but 5-6 figures of unnecessary debt does not.
(Edit: if your response to this is to say that the system is too messed up and kids should be going to trade school instead or whatever, I think that's fair! However, in this particular case both the parents and Dr. Phil treat the idea of college as an unquestioned good, and I am responding to their point of view specifically.)
Hes too old to realize how broken the education system is. I wouldn't be surprised if his parents sent him to school for free and they paid for it while also having blue collar jobs. That's what happens when you are 75 years old or whatever. You apply your outdated ideas to modern times, which was always bad, and is becoming increasingly catastrophic as the world moves faster and faster
Here in the UK the amount of financial assistance the government will give you for living expenses while at university is literally based off your parents income. That being that if your parents earn below a certain amount you get more money and above a certain amount you get less. The assumption is that if your parents have the means to do so, they should support you financially or have planned some form of savings for you to utilise while studying. Doctor Phil is literally worse than a Tory, conservative government in his attitude on the matter which is saying something!
Little Joel releasing Medium Joel from his Nebula prison. Wait until Big Joel hears about this!
I don't want to live in a world where Dr. Phil has a TikTok account
Mom: I want my son to get his degree!
Dr. Phil: WHY???????????
me: gets woken up by something loud
lays in bed for another 40 minutes
finally gets up grumpily unable to get back to sleep on my saturday morning
wonders if Little Joel has made a video just for me at this specific time
checks subscription feed
thank you joel, I knew you loved me
@@jimmybean420 It's a Koyama painting, titled "fox.", yes, in all lowercase and with a period at the end, made in 1981. I know because that's my profile pic on Instagram.
"I'm unsure if pretending to be Mr Magoo is offensive to the blind, but I *can see* how it might be tasteless" I see what you did there Joel you can't hide from us
“I *see* what you did there Joel you can’t hide from us” I see what you did there reissecupfilms you can’t hide from us
It's crazy how similar my parents made me feel about my own dreams - they crushed them and made them feel impossible while trying to make me "grounded and reasonable"
Without knowing anything about your situation I will just say it’s tough for a parent to know the statistics of how many people are successful in something like this and how many people aren’t, and not want to prevent you from failing. Like it’s easy when you’re young to feel like you’re special enough to be the one that succeeds. But reality is there are many more that don’t. So it’s reasonable to make sure as an older person that the young person at least has a backup.
@@joelman1989Having a backup and crushing dreams are not the same thing I would say.
I am genuinely amazed that Dr. Phil has not been attacked, repeatedly, for several years.
I feel the same way about people not physically attacking Donald Trump. Dr. McGraw is merely better at hiding his toxic mentality and the way he treats others; or rather, he thinks he's a pretty good actor when it comes to hiding his bad behavior. Some of us can see him clearly though.
the dr phil dunks are some of my favorite joel content personally i would watch a channel entirely of dr phil dunking if such a thing existed
The public who watches Dr Phil is absolutely chomping at the bit to understand how TH-cam monetization works. The infinite amount of middle-age soccer moms can not comprehend how money could possibly come from “nothing”. My own parents ask me how money is made on TH-cam every few weeks either because they forget or because they simply cannot comprehend the fact that it’s true one can get paid for simply making little cartoons or filming marbles running down a track. The wider public does not understand how TH-cam works, much less do they believe in it, and Dr Phil exploits this hole of knowledge in society to make it seem like the issue at hand is more dire or important than it actually is
"What you're about to see..." always sounds so ominous.
"Why do you have to support him?"
Because he didn't ask to be born, so as a parent, it is incumbent on you to support him at least through childhood? We can quibble a little bit about where childhood ends but like...kids owe parents nothing, because they didn't decide to be born.
love this take
It’s funny how much denial he’s in that his tic tok did so well specially because of a generation who finds him ironically funny and know about him through TH-camrs and not his show
He is the influencer (his actual job title) equivalent of Old Man Yells at Clouds. We find his yelling at clouds funny, not what he says to the clouds, and we certainly don't respect what he has to say to the clouds
i love how he even tried to break down his profound comedy in the tiktok. yes im sure it got that many views because of your exceptional comedy writing skills..
A lot of us have Dr.Phil moments where we sincerely see ourselves as helping others or informing someone of their wrong doing but really we’re using it as an opportunity to see ourselves as doing good & put others down. any help we give is incidental to that goal and its all to easy to convince ourselves otherwise. Helping people in a way that’s actually patient and kind and rooted in a desire to understand without centering ourselves in the interaction is super hard. I’m sure Dr.Phil truly sees himself as just giving it to them straight in a way they need to hear without asking himself if it could be done in a way that’s gentler.
Being gentler and kinder wouldn't make for as good television for him. Really, in a major way that's what it comes down to; the image of being a stern guiding figure 'telling it like it is' in a relatively dramatic fashion where people can feel he put someone in their place etc.
He's such a consistent arse that I'm convinced that his intentions are impure.
"Dr." Phil doesn't realize is that HE is the joke.
Oh man, finally with the fifth video being uploaded, the whole Joel's Dr. Phil saga is available for free. I do have Nebula, but I'm happy that now everyone can experience the whole anthology.
My friends who didn't have their family's support in college and didn't get scholarships, worked full-time jobs, and one even missed some classes to work. It was rough.
The way he said "whuhduyuhavtasupporthimIfhesincollege"
Im loving all sizes of joel thanks for all the uploads
I would like to thank the algorithm for putting this video at the top of my list. Haven't even seen any of your other videos, but I already know I want to subscribe!
If these are Big Joel videos on the Little Joel channel... Does that mean we've finally got Medium Joel?
Yes. Now is the time to advocate for Joel XL. A channel dedicated to feature length movies and documentaries.
Phil (not calling him a doctor here) is a conservative and I believe his reaction to the mom supporting him in college is some sort of belief that one should earn their own way into college and work to pay only for themselves while in college and... Basically Phil is out of touch with how insanely expensive things have gotten.
Watching any Dr Phil makes me legitimately uncomfortable at this point.
im convinced that the dr phil show is so many layers deep in comedy that nobody even knows it including the producers and phil himself
I do actually feel terror at the idea of doing a 9-5 job but I think that might be my ADHD
Nah it's because you have a brain and can see how terrible the state of labor is in our dystopian hellscape.
Same. It’s not because I think I’m “above it” I just don’t like the idea of being in a dirty, possibly toxic work environment that would constantly drain me. I’d be fine with working in like a library or museum.
The actual weird stuff to me is that Phil is just in entertainment business as well. I mean, that's all he does here. That's not educational or proper psychotherapy or councelling. It's just having people talk stuff in a room and then telling them that they are wrong and somehow people laugh at them.
I love that it's just Dr. Phil being like "fuck you kid I'm better at doing this than you"
Thank you Joel. I really needed some little Joel content today and a long video about dr Phil no less. Definitely going to check out your nebula.
that was literally terrifyong when he showed the tiktok i cant imagine being expected to clap at that😭
The audience's reaction to Dr. Phil's boomer tiktok convinced me that white privilege is real.
I'm so sorry Joel but I absolutely had to fast forward past Phil's "comedy" bit
I wish I had 😟
As cringe as he was, I stuck through because I was expecting the bit to have some worthwhile punchline since it was supposedly done by a major tiktok creator. It didn't, it was the worst joke I've ever heard.
@@virtheon mmm I think it’s a solid joke/gag (hear me out), but not delivered right and unoriginal and it needed at least one joke more that would’ve been more original, more creative and and would’ve been the real punchline, however “Dr” Phil doesn’t even know where the joke is nor how to deliver it. Nor does he realize the joke that Big Joel is pointing out through Little Joel’s humble but transcendent TH-cam channel, like what was the point of sharing this clip at all?
I didn't realise big joel was an actual channel, i thought it was just a joke like medium joel. I've watched so many little joel videos. How did i miss this...
mom coming in with the best answer possible.
Fascinating that people come here for Joel and not the contents of his videos
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Little Joel.
Medium
I WISH I'd had somebody to tell me to do something creative with my life even if it was risky, instead of wasting four years and £25k on the super safe alternative of getting a degree that never got me even one job.
FOR REAL
6:23 ofc 😭 he would never actually confront issues, its so strange
So I'm only 19, I dropped out of highschool at 17 for really, really bad mental health. I've recovered and have thought about going back to school, not sure honestly. I feel like other jobs got so demonised when I was growing up "if you don't go to further education, you'll be nothing in life".
I'm in a position where I can access some trade job apprenticeships and stuff like that, I don't know man, school just isn't for everyone. You don't have to go to college, that doesn't make you a failure it just makes you someone who doesn't want that for their life. I still feel like a failure because it's so ingrained in me, at the end of the day though money is money, pick something you have some resonance with and go at it. And pursue those dreams, but have some backups, I feel so much more at ease and secure now pursuing my artistic passions, now that I have work and some more work in the future as a nice safety net. I'm learning to sew clothes and stuff really cool right?
Little Joel, big hair.
Big Joel, little hair
how???
9:05 “not even him playing his own fetid TikTok” has to be the best quote from this vid
Phil trying to flex at the kid lol
Tbh I immediately assumed that the guy probably has an understandable reason to be avoiding college and conventional employment.
I generally can't handle those either because most schools and workplaces do not accommodate any of my disabilities and nuerodivergencies.
I would bet good money that the guy in this video would have an equally valid reason if Phil cared to ask.
Remember the advice that Dr. Phil gave to the “Cash Me Outside” girl, and how she was throwing her life away acting out online. She is now a multi millionaire. JS. 😬
The joke being on Dr. Phil is something of a redundancy.
Without exploiting other people??? Huhhhh? Dr. Phil said that?
This is how i found out that people WANT to support their kids in college? My parents are the complete opposite
let's effing jooooooooooel
One of the most annoying things about Dr Phil is him constantly talking about how parents should stop supporting their kids when they turn 18 but he bought his sons their own houses....
"Why would you support your child? Ew, gross." - Dr. Phil probably.
6:44 Now that's some viral content right there, Dr. Phil out to consider going on the You Toks as a full time gig. Comedy gold yon tap right there Dr. Phil
Dr. Phil just sitting there thinking “that TikTok speaks for itself. Now everyone can see exactly what the difference is between me and this kid”
Dr. Phil needs to go to Dr. Phil to be sent to the ranch
Phil flexing his tiktok numbers as an established entertainer to a youtuber was not what I was expecting. The boomer behavior is out of control
Dr Phil did a weird flex and thought that was entertaining somehow
Really just highlighted how terrible he is at apparently everything he does.
It was very entertaining, just not in the way he was shooting for.
idk, I feel like you should support your children if they need it regardless of their other circumstances??
Yeah, and if Phil's advocating that the parents don't support their kid while in college, why is there even a conversation about whether he stays in school or pursues a content creator career? Why would they have any say in his choice if they dropped him regardless?
The Dr. Phil content I've been yearning for
by the intermediate value theorem, this new Little Joel TH-cam video about a Big Joel Nebula video allows us to reliably predict that there exists a Regular Joel channel on Skillshare. in this essay i will
so strange you deny us medium joel
Dr. Phil telling someone to make money without exploiting other people is pretty rich, considering he profits off the public humiliation of each of his "guests".
You're driving the plane, but you're not wearing your
seatbelt ...I paraphrase, Dr. Philisms are funny.
Joel looks like Stanley Kubrick
This was extremely cool! Can't wait to see the deep dive into rudder mechanics. Cool live music too!