🎙️ARSENAL Collapse | Are the GUNNERS Still Mentally WEAK? | SALIBA Red Card Justified?
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with Sophie Nicolaou, Dan Potts & Tom Canton
A bad result for the Arsenal. Officials to blame? Should Saliba know better? Mental weakness still there? Did Arteta get selection right?
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Frankly, none of the guests on the show have watched Bournemouth at home this season or last season. The Cherries engineer chaos by their intense high press like Liverpool do very well at Anfield..That is their main strength ergo they are one of the best at it in the League. The physical characteristics of the their stadium is a significant factor why teams struggle so much to maintain possession there at the start of the game ...even Luton Town used the same tactic at their ground last season but the Cherries are a much better team and well-practiced being in the the PL consecutive seasons . As a matter of fact defensively we made the best start away at Vitality out of all the visiting teams to have played there this season . For instance ,earlier in the season they peppered Chelsea especially n the 1st half but the visitors came back into the game in 2nd half as the intensity dropped from the home side.
So, attributing blame to everyone on basis of factors that dont exist and concocted or figments as opposed to those that do exist and material to the outcome of this game is not fair and very misleading. Case in point is the amount of criticism being levelled at the Manager for subbing it Kiwior for Sterling with 3 quarters of the game remaining is downright absurd and insane.
Excellent comments. You would enjoy Le Grove’s comments in last night show. He talked about that🫡
Why does Mikel hesitate to bring on the most obvious players . And why does he so willingly bring on the most , (whether starter or sub ) unsuited combination . Cannot understand why he just won’t just shift Ben white into Saliba’s position . Had he played Ethan from the beginning , he may have gotten more out of Trossard , Sterling and Kai .
I asked Tom Canton on a show last week if Mikel knew who his starters and finishers were. Seems unclear, especially when we have injuries.
Zinchenko is the most natural Odegaard replacement, he is very creative, left footed, and can do great as 10, his career and reputation is ruined only because he is forced to play LB when he is a natural creative midfielder.
Replacement? What about Odegaard’s engine and defensive ability? Zinny is a replacement?
As much as I blame players for the red card I remember the game between Arsenal and Aston Villa when Saka was fouled and it was a yellow card because the referee said the incident was too far away from the goal. It was the same distance and it happened to Martinelli against Leicester and it was too far from the goal but with Arsenal it is always a red card this is not fair
You don't win anything for sympathy
Le Grove said something key on last night’s Monday Madness and how he thought it was important the players didn’t start feeling like the fans were about officials. Once that sinks into a team, it’s hard to shift that mentality. We have to move on. Take a listen and let me know what you think! 🫡
Agree with Dan about Merino. Very worrying that we sold our creative mf’s and he didn’t use Nwaneri and Merino looks super under baked for this league currently. It looks like he can’t even think as fast as the things that are moving around him. The squad is not ready to take on city.
I don’t think we’re mentally weak, but I think we are weak in depth. We have about 15-16 players I think Mikel and all of us trust, but few injured and we’re back to the usual 11-12 that get run into the ground and performances suffer. These reds just make it worse because there’s extra load and a lot of shifting and changing going on. Looks like a horrible start in terms of luck this season. I’m sure if luck starts going our way we’ll really see it swing our way.
He likes to operate with a tight squad doesn’t he? But it always costs us at some point in the season. Keeping Trossard in the 10 was the simple thing to do.
Combating the adversity and not overthinking it is key. Our margin for error so narrow now.
Different Arsenal team, same exact issues... the team is starting to doubt itself, we are in a crisis with players out, and the squad is paper thin, and I put this down to recruitment ... we were crying out for a top striker, and by some bizarre reason, Edu thought that Sterling was the answer and NOT the player we were waiting for. Artetas tactics was like 20/21, which was very poor and worrying
Not sure I would call it a crisis yet. Feels like early season adversity we have to overcome! 🫡
Trossard was doing well at 10, and suddenly he is a winger and we have 3 DMs in the pitch! Its just wasn't good, but still we should have done so much more! so much more attacking! And then the mistakes, jeezzz!
Not sure where to start on this show Sophie. Firstly while it's fresh in my mind, Merino is not a "defensive minded midfielder " as claimed by Brandon I believe, he's a box to box midfielder who incidentally played at 10 for Spain during the international break so his inclusion, given Trossard needed to cover Martinelli's absence, was understandable, although most wanted Nwaneri to start. I think the thought process behind it was Bournemouth's midfield can be dominated physically and I'm guessing that was the plan, 3 physically intimidating midfielders.
Also I don't know how big a squad Dan thinks we should have but there is a limit. He bangs on about Eze but realistically where would he play when everyone is fit? He's not a winger, he's not really like Odegaard, he's an attacking midfielder. So for a start would we pay the sort of money Palace would demand for someone to sit on the bench (Eze is similar to Smith Rowe and he didn't fit our system so Eze probably wouldn't either) and also would Eze want to come knowing he's just a squad option? Probably not.
We were missing 2 of our first choice front 3, our most influential and creative midfielder, a starting defender and then your best defender gets sent off. A slightly unexpected loss and the fanbase goes nuts and they all think they have the answer when the reality is most haven't a clue and are "I'd have done this or that" but they're reacting with the benefit of hindsight, it's another matter entirely doing it in the heat of battle and having to make decisions under pressure.
Very fair and measured response to the comments in the show! You would actually enjoy listening to Le Grove from last night. Think you guys are on the same page 🫡
@@HighburySquad@HighburySquad I'll be really honest with you Sophie I didn't listen after Brandon, absolutely respect everyone has a right to their opinion but some people think it's like playing a video game. I think the pod from the Vision got it spot on when they said none of us know what the game plan was which then obviously goes out of the window when Saliba gets sent off. On that, I thought Webb's big thing this year was a higher bar for VAR intervention and giving the on field decision more credence (unless of course it's a massive mistake) clearly there was enough subjectivity around this that the VAR (our nemesis Gillett, a self confessed Liverpool fan, nothing like vested interest is there) had no business intervening. First I don't see a situation which unfolds 50 yards from goal, where the forward hasn't even got the ball under control, as a clear goal scoring opportunity. The other thing is PGMOL leave themselves in a situation whereby a Liverpool fan in in a position to affect their next opponentsthI thought it was an utterly irresponsible appointment which leaves them open to ridicule.
Maybe I will listen to the rest of the show later 😉
Chin up lass and don't let the misguided in the comments get to you xx
@@martinharvey2390 Le Grove was on Monday's show. Not on the same show as Brandon on Sunday. :)
@@HighburySquad ah I haven't got around to Mondays show yet 👍
I prefer not to dwell into a "what ifs" discussion such as talking about the lineup becuase it will be with the benefit of hindsight and you can lean either way with good reasons. I also don't want to talk about conspiracies because this time it is a red card without a doubt and we should always err on the side of caution by being disciplined with the stakes being so high.
My problem with us right now is players like Trossard, Saliba, Martinelli, and Kiwior are not stepping up at a crucial time when we're struggling with multiple injuries, this is when players need to carry the team on their backs to get us over the line and I don't think they understand the severity of the situation and its potential impact down the line for our season. By doing silly things such as booting the ball behind our defenders, taking big risks and passing the ball back to our keeper when you can kick it out for a throw, getting yourself sent off and missing games, or missing a clear cut goal scoring opportunity, you've actually let your whole team down and your teammates should demand better performances than that. You want to be champions then you start playing like you deserve to be one, not like how I just described above.
As a fan my role is to sympathize with our team because I don't expect us to be perfect with so many crucial players missing. On the other hand the players can't feel sorry for themselves, they need to see that the perofmances up to this point so far is unacceptable by the standards they set themselves at and by the goals they want to achieve. I want to see players playing like they want to be the impact and not want to be the cause for scrutiny. I expect a response quickly from the players and they really need to get their heads down because our watershed moment in our season has come unexpectedly early already.
Love your perspective on the players and stepping up. I asked Le Grove that very same question on last night’s Monday Madness. Which players need to step up? They really need to dig deep this week. Redemption time! 🫡
It’s looking good for Liverpool this season - Slots first season and he could well win the league.
What does that say about Arteta and his 5 years or so?
When are people going to realise that Arteta is not as good as he thinks he is.
If Arsenal win nothing again this season, should Arteta stay on and do 6/7/8 years at the helm?
Please take a listen to Pedro (Le Grove) thoughts about Liverpool on last night’s Monday Madness show. Makes some very interesting points. Let me know what you think.
Sophie…I’m disagreeing with Brandon on this one. Some of the comments were very unfair to Arteta n the team.
His arguments Lacked fairness, good sense n balance Many contradictions mixed in his lyrics. He’s not thinking critically. Good Lord!!
Great show…COYG!!
You’re a horrible, horrible person
I realize that my earlier comments came off offensive/insensitive to some persons. Hence I take this opportunity to apologize profusely for same…especially to Sophie (and Tom Canton) who I both respect.
I didn’t mean to be disrespectful AT ALL. I just felt how I felt at the time. Again, I apologize to all that took it as something horribly bad.
Continue the wonderful work GUNNERS!!
Channel’s & ‘superfans’ need to wake up - the transfer window was average at best, we are not a strong enough squad to win a title and any thoughts of a Champions League run should be parked.
The players are not as good as a lot of fans think.
Super Kev used to say that all the time/ we’re not good enough, Soph!
Not sure he used to say we are not good enough all the time! LOL! He was a realist but he backed this team all the way. I believe we can’t afford to lose that game versus Liverpool. It’s a must win. Had a good debate about that with Le Grove on last night’s Monday Madness. Check it out 🫡
it was coming. Barring PSG that too to an extent, we have been shite.. this manager is a coward. and it is the main reason we ain't winning anything as long as he is hwre.
first the team selection reflected it and secondly by subbing sterling for that donkey kwior he just conceded the game
A coward? Bit harsh no?
During Arteta's press conference, he said,'its impossible to win with 10 men'. He said the same thing after the city game. What message does that send to the players?
That’s it’s impossible to win with 10 men😂🫡
Yeah, one shot on target says it all, and that's why a clinical finisher should be higher on the priority list. Squad depth was clearly an area were Man - City had the upper hand last season, but we've still done nothing to resolve this properly! We're always two or three players short of what we need.
We’ve gone from no Rodri to having a better road to winning the league, to our window sucked. Merino, Calafiori, Sterling…got Timber back like a new player. Sold surplus players. Emergence of Nwaneri and Skelly. It’s only October and January isn’t far away. We just have to stay close to the leaders now and beat them when we get the chance! 🫡
Does anyone listen to potts and the other nerd brandon , i mean these idiots tell my man how is going wrong , embarrassing of the highest order , im on here cause sof has really clued up pannels on here but soon as we lose they roll out the idiots, dont here them when its going well , absolute tools 👊
I’m not rolling out idiots. We have different voices on the show. Last night Le Grove was in who has a very different opinion and approach. This week we have Liverpool legend Stevie Nicol coming on. There are also some new voices to explore and we can agree or disagree with them. But let’s be respectful please!🫡
@HighburySquad these are the fans I can't stand , I know it takes all sorts sof, I'm Arsenal, land and sea thick and thin but these new breed a spiolt kids moaning about we are a shambles, we have lost one game in six months with ten men and these idiots come with the same crap , we need a stricker, get rid of jesus and zinie , Arteta dont know where his players best positions are it's these that give us a bad name , that want Arteta to fail so they can say told you so , I know you don't get idiots all the time cause that's why I watch your channel , over the years I have herd this mob dig out the Arsenal over and over again and my man as proved the wrong time and time again , it's time to enjoy the ride and stop with the negative crap cause the people I knock about when we go to games , yes there is debate but we always get behind the team and some of these characters that are on TH-cam are not popular over the Arsenal, some of the players these lot have said bye over the years makes me cringe and I know most have not cut it or injured , it's embarrassing, there's your answer sorry if I offended you,ATID👊
I've always said the stubborness of Arteta will be the undoing of everything we've built these last 3 years. He always makes illogical decisions that nobody except him seems to understand.
There is that stubbornness still in the air! Bordering arrogance too.
Tom admits the lineup was wrong on this show but when I said it yesterday on his show he acted like I was talking nonsense. lol this guy at times is cringe
We all know what he is. let's not pretend he is not using the fanbase to carve out a media career for himself. he is shameless PR puppet
Hey BX, now I just went back to have a look if I "acted like you were talking nonsense".
For anyone reading this, its the Raw Reaction show at 32:03 minutes in from Sunday morning's live show.
Just a heads up, me saying despite wanting Nwaneri to start, Rice, Merino and Partey should have been enough to beat Bournemouth.
Not really sure how that is calling what you said "nonsense" but I think your comment here is quite revealing about the motives. So thanks for that.
@@TheGoonerTalkTV you said the midfield trio was more than enough to beat Bournemouth and that was clearly not true. Now I will say we had more than enough quality in the team to beat Bournemouth but the 11 that was put out was not balanced or enough. I can go back to and show receipts as well🍻
@@bxgunner8129 Well we went down to 10 men for 60 minutes. Its worth bearing in mind that one of those midfielders set up the chance that should've been scored to win it (Merino) Declan Rice got the highest rated score (WS.com) in the team followed by Thomas Partey. Everyone else in the forward line and defence scored lower so... you see where my issue is?
You definitely should've gone back before posting this in anger yeah... also maybe more calmly and then you would've understood at no point did I hammer your point, I calmly pointed out why it wasn't entirely accurate.
Your post is cringe BX. You get free content and then disrespect it if you disagree with someone.
only 2 good things happened this weekend for me , our women winning and our Kiwi cousins winning the women`s T20 world cup in cricket 👏👏👏👏💖💖we were shit from top to bottom . i said the other day we need 3 more class players , how that showed up with 3 of our best players out . there is no replacement for Saliba , when he is out our backline is shit . they all played like they don`t give a f... . 3 send offs in 8 games , piss poor . and we go down to 10 men , we go bloody defensive , you don`t mind against a top side like City , but the other teams , what the f... . we have Liverpool , Newcastle and Chelsea next . these games will tell us where we are , if we win all 3 , it`s all on board the train , but if we lose all 3 games , pack your boardies , sunscreen and come and have a great holiday on the Gold Coast 🤣🤣😂😂💖💖great show Sis and Dan , Albert , Brandon , Hooks and Tom 👏👏👏👏💖💖💖💖🥰🥰🥰🥰🫡say hi to Toni , Dad and the rest of Family , Sis . have a great week Squaddies 🙏🙏💖💖💖💖🥰🥰🥰🥰🫡
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