American Reacts to "Roundabouts Are Safer - So Why Does the U.S. Have so Few of them?"
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My favourite part was the mayor saying ‘do the maths’ with an S
😂 yes mate
Its correct.. MATHEMATICS is Plural = Maths
Math would be MATHEMATIC.. Thats just no... even in spanish is MatematicaS..
@@dillon17 don't get them started on Aluminium
@@dillon17 that's my point
"You can always depend on America to do the right thing, once they've tried everything else"
~ Winston Churchill
Roundabouts are everywhere here 🇬🇧 because they work
Some UK roundabouts have traffic lights on because of congestion & to give each lane onto the roundabout ease of entering the roundabout. There also part time traffic lights on some roundabouts which only switch on at peak times.
And usually the traffic lights on the roundabouts in the UK cause more congestion when they are in use
@britbazza3568 lol so true that. 👍
When traffic lights on roundabouts fail traffic usually flows a lot better.
Not true.
Im from the UK. The purpose of a roundabout is to keep traffic flowing as like a flowing river.
You basically stay on the left, unless indicating to turn right. You give plenty of time to signal, so the vehicle behind knows what you’re doing.
You have hit the nail on the head: "ease of access to the roundabout". I have known roundabouts where, at busy periods, it was impossible to enter the roundabout safely as there were never any gaps in the traffic coming from the right which has priority. One of these in our town was removed altogether and replaced with traffic lights. Roundabouts with traffic lights operating at peak periods are a good compromise but motorists can be caught out if they fail to notice that the traffic lights are operational at a particular time when they are not expecting them.
In the majority of cases, roundabouts work fine without lights.
I have a UK driving manual from 1935 (Highway Code) and roundabouts feature in that.
They've been part of the driving landscape in the UK for over 90 years.
Hi, You're correct, but the rules for roundabouts as we know them weren't introduced nationally until the 1960's. That surprised me too.
@@TerryD15 ... It surprised me too, but it makes sense when you think about it because there were so few cars around in the early 60s, but as the decade progressed and motorways were built, cars became more common. I grew up in the 60s and there were next to no cars parked on our street then and they gradually increased over the decade so I suppose roundabout rules became more necessary.
@@Tidybitz Hmmm, I left school in 1963 at the age of 16 and had an engineering apprenticeship with a BMC (British Motor Corp.) company and bought my first car in '65 at age 18 and can remember long queues of traffic around the West Midlands and Birmingham. The estate where I lived with my family had not provided parking space, just a couple of small lay-bys, and there seemed to be cars parked outside most houses on the estate. The problem with street parking in those days was that you had to have a parking light even though the streets were lit, The parking light showed red to rear and white to front and clipped onto the driver's window and if your battery was weak the starting handle came out, especially in winter time.
As a younger child of around 11 my uncle had a car and on a long trip he took us on the first stretch of motorway in the UK just after it had opened - the Preston Bypass in 1958 a short 4 lane (two in each direction) stretch at nighttime and I can't remember any other cars just the bright reflecting lane markers. It was very exciting as there were no crash barriers, just a wide gravel trap in the centre and no speed limit. My uncle's A35 managed 70 mph! That stretch became part of the M6 later, still 2 lane.
The M1 reached Rugby from Watford in the awfully wet summer of 1958 and opened in 1959. The stretch to where I now live near Lutterworth was opened in Autumn 1964, again no crash barriers just a 15-foot wide gravel trap and no speed limits. The stretch to Rugby terminated just above the Blue Boar (now Watford Gap) services and 'ton up' Bikers used to race up the section from the Ace Cafe on the London North Circular - a favourite gathering place for bikers, as well as rock bands such as the Rolling Stones - in the early days, as the services were open all night. Interesting time to be alive as the system grew.
The rules for driving on roundabouts changed in 1960
They're so easy to use, traffic flows no matter how busy it is.
The thumbnail of the Arc de Triumph in Paris made men smile. That is not an example of a roundabout & it has no lane-markings! If you stand on top of the monument and look down what you see is a 12 road intersection seemingly without any rules. People get to their entry point, eyeball their exit, punch it and hurtle as fast as possible in the straightest line they can for their target exit. It's French insanity par excellence.
Famous Last Words: “It all comes back to the money.”
Joel. I live in a large village with other large villages close by and we have a main road running through each one. Some of the juctions are roundabout controlled and the odd one is traffic light controlled. It all depends on traffic density. Outside of the village two diverted main roads intersect at a traffic light-controlled roundabout. The timing intervals between red & green are computer controlled via sensors in lanes that send their collected data via a private circuit to a highways centre in Cardiff. It controls timing of lights that change with time and density. The one main road is fed in one direction from Cardiff, we are a dormitory area and from the other by a large local hospital where patients and staff are returning home from the opposite direction. They all meet at the junction of the A4119 the A473. This roundabout though very busy manages to cope with this high density of traffic both in the morning and evening.
Here in Australia, we have a lot of roundabouts (single & multi lane), traffic circle & traffic-lights. I love roundabout intersections. They flow much better. The turbo roundabouts would throw a bit of a curve ball at me. Once I went through 2 or 3 of them, it would become second nature to me. I always wondered why the US didn't adopt roundabout, but you invented them. As you said, it all comes down to the mighty dollar.
I was 16 before I saw my second roundabout and I had to travel to England to see it. Recently, they added 3 near where I live in Colorado. One is sort of useless because there simply isn't enough traffic for it to matter. The other two are wonderful and really help a lot.
Locally to me in Scotland they recently converted a large busy roundabout into a simple spiral ('turbo') one and it's actually much better than the old one, being simple to learn. Basically you just choose the lane you need when you enter at the road junction and follow the lane lines on the roundabout which spiral out to your required exit. It's really not complicated. There's a bridge for cyclists and pedestrians so they are kept away from the traffic.
The solution to incorporating protected bike lanes is easy. Just send the engineers to study roundabouts in the Netherlands. We have a lot of them too, with a huge cycling culture as well.
The material is all there, so no need to invent the wheel.
we even have groups like the Dutch Cycling Embassy that will send one of there people to you if you ask for help.
so you ask them and the can/will send an expert with all the knowledge and experience the Dutch have gathered in the past (mostly the last 50 years where we went from American style infrastructure to humane/people orientated infrastructure)
The usa adopting anything that works well in the rest of the world? Not until hell freezes over haha..
Take a look online for 'magic roundabout UK' - a set of mini-roundabouts in the town of Swindon. I live on the edge of Oxford and we have roundabouts that include traffic lights at their entry points; I'm not sure why!
In my town we’ve just installed. ‘Cyclops’ Roundabout, giving preference to pedestrians and cyclists
I'm sure Milton Keynes here in the UK, although only being a town, has more roundabouts than most of those cities!
My mate from Milton Keynes said he'd meet me at round about 8. I asked if that was a time or a place!?! 😆 🤣
Fascinating video and good reaction. You're open minded about more effective ways of doing things from other countries.
In the UK we have councils who have taken out roundabouts in city and town centres and replaced them with traffic lights in order to dissuade drivers from coming into the city and town centres, in my small northern town the council removed a roundabout and replaced it with traffic lights on a key town centre junction some years ago claiming it would be better for traffic flow and congestion. Over a few months the sheer hell of trying to get into the town centre with massive tail backs caused serious problems for retailers who saw major drops in revenue as people started avoiding the town, the council finally caved to reality and reinstated the roundabout due to the public outcry even though the council rolled out Highway's Experts who proclaimed that the lights were better.
My local (UK) council replaced a three exit roundabout with a horrendous traffic light system and as you say has made things a lot worse with regards tailbacks and delays. I believe the local traffic expert on the council is a sandal wearing bicycle rider who has never driven a car :)
@@AlanMacleod-hv5ee why do you think someone that wants intersections instead of roundabouts is a cyclist?
cyclist also hate intersections, they have to wait for those same red lights as the cars have. and a cyclist has to do more effort to start up after standing still, a driver just has to push his foot a little bit further down.
cyclists love the roundabout, maybe even more than drivers because they (the cyclists) are safer on them.
but for the roundabout to work properly you have to build it properly. like, a separate cycle lane and preferably have that cycle lane as a priority lane so drivers have to wait for both cyclists and pedestrians, this increases the chance that the driver is going to stop for them. (the more people you have to cut off the harder it becomes to do so)
Somehow things always go that way. Once a concept or law gets old enough for the problem they solved to leave living memory they always have to be reversed for some reason, usually with desasterous results.
@@ChristiaanHW I was joking as many of the road changes made in my town don't appear to based on common sense, and definitely not made by someone who actually drives a car or uses the roads. In the case I mentioned there are now 5 sets of lights to turn right that replaced a roundabout. The pedestrian lights are not synchronised with the traffic lights! Some of the major road junctions into the town have been changed to "improve traffic flow". Then it's found to have made it worse and have been changed again. Some of these junctions have had 3 major alternations in 10 years, taking many months to complete with ensuing traffic chaos.
@@AlanMacleod-hv5ee ok, i didn't get the sarcasm and thought you really blame cyclist for everything that inconveniences drivers.
there are a lot of those people, mostly from car orientated places. so they are afraid that people different from them also get a share of the public infrastructure.
From home (UK) to the shop I pass through 11 roundabouts. For the majority I do not stop I just filter into the traffic flow. Roundabouts are brilliant. I am 73 and have been through millions, including France, Germany and Belgium.
Fact it costs the same to install a roundabout as it dose traffic lights, traffic lights have a 10-15 year useful life if renovated every 5 years until they need full replacement, a roundabout has a useful life of 20-35 year useful life before renovation, the maintenance cost of a roundabout across its entire useful life is less than the running costs and maintenance of a set of traffic lights over just a year of operation.
Hello Joel. The big roundabout on my driving test route, in my home city of Bradford, has been replaced with traffic lights. You saw the police chase videos there, but it was more that at peak times the bulk of traffic was in one direction and the roundabout was overwhelmed with a continuous flow of traffic as a route in and out crossed a ring road. Also many lights are linked to cameras, which monitor the traffic. Some suggest this would enable road charges, not unlike the congestion charge in London. Bradford has a version already introduced as an emissions charge.
I think that there is a saturation point when there are too many roundabouts. In some cities/suburbs in Australia there are so many (and some are unnecessary in terms of traffic volume) that is becomes annoying. Interesting about the cost of traffic lights as I had not thought it was that much. Great video Joel.
Hi Joel one thing with roundabouts in the uk is that people have to get used to ignoring the space that cars occupy and actually start looking at the spaces in between the cars then checking the space is big enough to fit ones vehicle into at the precise speed of other vehicles on each side of the space one wants to fit into. That way no one has to stop at the roundabout junction hence they are faster to negotiate
As for bikes on roundabouts the simple way to deal with that is for the cyclist to dismount and use the pedestrian crossing on the roundabout approach then after they cross get back on the bike end of problem. But cyclists are just lazy and dont want to do that. also most large roundabout junctions in the UK actually have underground subways or bridges that take pedestrians and cyclist either over or under the roundabout junction.
The UK's answer to Europes turbo roundabout is the multiple mini roundabouts on one large roundabout. The most famous one is the magic roundabout in Swindon but there are another seven magic roundabouts on the UK too some have five some have seven mini roundabouts around one big roundabout and motorists can go in any direction around the big roundabout and any direction through the junction. This is surprisingly easy to negotiate too
@@britbazza3568 I was reading with interest all the useful info, until I became giddy and car sick towards the end 🤪
@@JenniferRussell-qw2co lol yes that was my first thoughts about the UK's magic roundabouts when I was made aware they were going to put one on a route I used every day for a few yrs but they really aren't as difficult as they sound there is a video that Joel made about the Magic roundabout in Swindon in the UK! Check it out it's not as daunting as it sounds I used to use one daily. You literally can go around it in any direction you choose to
Thanks for that, I just hope one doesn't come my way soon! 🤪🙋♀️@@britbazza3568
@@JenniferRussell-qw2co lol they really aren't too much of a problem
Middle Georgia has many circumvolutions (roundabouts) and more are on the way.
Have you seen Evan Erdinger's video with the Roundabout in New Jersey? Where there is a road thru the middle and there are apparently No Official Rules for its use !!
3,817 roundabouts in the Netherlands
Canberra - Australia's capital, was a designed/planned city with Roundabouts. Large ones with multi lanes and at the major interest points of the city. And done by an American: Walter Burley Griffin.
Hearing an American say bicyclist sounds strange. In the UK we usually just say cyclist
The one thing we did in the UK is change the priorities.
The _Arch de Triumph_ gives priority to those entering, in the UK you have priority on the roundabout.
Makes sense?
If you are on the r-bout you need to leave.
When the priorities are correct, the traffic never stops!
Believe it or not, Inwood, WV is putting in roundabouts almost every major intersection or exit from the main interstate highway there. Another small town not far from there, Hillsboro, VA has put in several roundabouts. There’s only one main road (Rt. 9) going through the town. All roundabouts were built there. When I lived in Washington, DC there are many roundabouts there that are referred to as Circles: Logan Circle, DuPont Circle, etc.,
Roundabouts are a very good idea when done correctly, but the local councils don't always do it correctly.
Traffic Lights should not be placed less than 100 meters from a Roundabout (so it states in the UK Construction Guide Line) for Roundabouts) however where I live there is not one but two sets of Lights within 40 meters of the large 3 lane Roundabout, this causes more traffic and in the holidays lines of cars can stretch a good mile.
Whats the point in the Roundabout then?
EXCELLENT PROGRAMME, AND GOOD TO KNOW THE STATES ARE STILL , IF SLOWLY, TRANSFERRING TO ROUNDABOUTS. THE MORE LANES, THE SLOWER THE APPROACHE SHOULD BE.
Great video, Joel. Canada is similar to America is this respect. Here in Ontario, roundabouts are becoming more common now. UK and Europe have wonderful roundabouts. No stopping and starting, with continuous flow. Carmel, Indiana is a fantastic example of the feasibility and benefits of converting to roundabouts. Interesting comparison with traffic circles and rotoraries - not synonymous terms. Super reaction. Cheers, John in Canada
We now have 6 round about in my area ,for yrs we only had one and people didn't like it(at first),then we went to 3 and just within the last year we have gone to 6. I have no problem with them,but some people,especially those not from this area don't understand what to do and often causes problems.
Traffic lights really do s**k....they cause MORE traffiic congestion...I wished they'd get some round-a-bouts down here in Chapel Hill.
"It all comes back to the money", that says it all about America.
Did anyone notice the stat.
290 million cars
300 million population
there are more guns in the US than cars, or the population, thats crazy as i know its now over 300 million guns
The raw population number will include people who can't drive such as children and people with certain illnesses and disabilities. So the number of cars is probably higher than the number of drivers.
@@nbartlett6538 and your point being, i dont get your logic, bottom line you have more guns than cars, thats my logic what was yours
@@seanmc1351 My point was already made in my message: there are more cars than drivers.
@@nbartlett6538 ok, i still dont get it, yeah children cant drive, so many people have mutiple guns then, Im from the UK its not a culture thing, im trying to understand why you want guns, i know you have the second ammendment, with your right to have have guns. what i dont get, if you use that right, open carry in your car, on the street, to be honest, your going to be shot by police, right or wrong
i served in the british army, left in 1991, i have nver seen a gun since then, apart from a pellet gun, at a fair ground
In at last place on the list of cities with the most roundabouts, my city, Cardiff. There are a couple of 3 lane roundabouts here that I hate! At least they painted lane lines onto them in the past 10 years or so, before that it was a case of people swaying over into other lanes.
4:42 Joel really cuss out some people he’s encountered haha
That's a good observation that the protected bike lane is the next thing in infrastructure. I would add in the UK that very clear priorities for pedestrians and cyclists in dedicated lanes (as per Netherlands and others) should be the next step. At the moment, it's a confusing, and consequently dangerous, mess.
Newer communities in my city have roundabouts built. I love them (I live in Alberta). And interesting to hear an American say roundabout. Before I would only hear “traffic circle”. ⭕️
The Mayor of Carmel appears to be a 'down to earth', sensible guy! Compare him to Trump... DUH! 😂😂😂
less road rage too as traffic flows, no pointless waiting at lights.
Remember: The Dutch 'biking culture' and current road safety, was about as car centric as the US
However in the 70's there were so many death due to accidents involving cars, people started to protest and municipalities and government could do nothing but listen and look at alternatives
This how our road got smaller again, we added bike lanes, unprotected at first later protected where possible, stop signs slowly became yield signs and our traffic lights(and some signs) became smart notjustbikes took a look at that i believe
Changes won't have an overnight magic effect, but you can have the luxury of looking at others and if what they've done would work for your situation (even if it's 'unamerican' thinking) in stead of starting from scratch, and if done right people will start using it because it's better then the old, put a sign next to it 'for suggestions call/text/mail [responsible municipality]' In RED 'NOT WHILE DRIVING'
Where i live we have a massive round about to come off of Canvey island and we have both lights and round abouts together so that its fair that people from all directions can get around the round about probably not best way to describe it but I don't drive so don't know the best way to day it lol
It says many times that roundabouts are safer but it doesnt actually go into why.
The tight circle of a roundabout forces people to slow right down. So any collision isn't going to be involving high speeds.
The design of the roundabout eliminates the possibility of a head on crash or getting T-Boned. The worst you'll experience is a glancing impact, (both cars sides making contact with one another)
Or at the very worst the corner of a car glancing off the side of anothers.
They are soo soo much safer and I welcome any changes. We have them all over the place in the UK and they really aren't confusing at all.
3:02 You can be honest and say it was Ben 😂
Wow my mum got sick so haven't had time to watch any TH-cam when I left Joel was a boy I come back and his a man what did I miss catching up now
A high percentage of cyclists in the UK however don't follow any traffic laws, they'll go through red lights and wonder why they get involved in an incident. And some don't even use cycle lanes when there are there for their safety. Waste of money.
OK Adolf
An European here: France has far too much roundabouts. Roundabouts are far better than traffic lights (the traffic flows better and faster), but in Europe we drive far smaller cars than in the USA. For bigger cars, trucks, campers, etc. Roundabouts are far more difficult to take. Cyclists can profit very much from roundabouts, but you have to design them well.
Good question, easy answer: Because they are too difficult for drivers with no driving education. Greetings from germany! :-P
There are 4 lane roundabouts in London 😅 a couple 3 lane roundabouts around Newcastle but mostly 2 lane, single lane ones tend to be within housing estates 😊
I remember roundabouts before they started putting traffic lights on them and they worked great.. In the last 20/30 years they have ruined roundabouts with the overuse of traffic lights.. (although there are some roundabouts which need them especially during the rush hour) There is a movement to slow down and stifle the flow of traffic which causes unnecessary traffic jams in every town and city throughout the country..
Roundabouts are far more efficient as well as being proven to be safer. With traffic lights there is always a time when all lights are on red, meaning all traffic is at a standstill. Wasted time because this never happens on a roundabout because traffic is always flowing
I do like the roundabouts. they can be confusing though when there are more than 2 lanes, Cities are also reluctant to get ride of the lights because it is a revenue source. Red light tickets, traffic cams, etc.
Bike-lanes in the USA? ....... first teach the car-owners have to take account that bicycle (and also motorbikes) are road users who are very vulnerable. Many car users (often high speeders) still have the opinion that bicycle riders don't belong on the road so "piss off" and take your bicycle elsewhere but not here.
Have watched many TH-cam clips where things went wrong.
This according to someone from a small cycling country 🙂
BTW: turbo roundabouts in the Netherlands are often equipped with traffic islands between the lanes on the roundabout, so that you cannot suddenly change lanes.
The clip of Arc de Triomphe doesn't fit the narrative because it is regulated with traffic lights. In France, roundabouts are mostly in rural cities where the traffic density is lower than major cities. In similar cases in the US, there would be either a 2 or 4-way stop signs and not traffic lights. To those that claim roundabouts would take up more space, this is false. I've seen roundabouts placed in a 3-way intersection where the circle is tiny.
Roundabouts take up a lot more space than a junction serviced by a traffic light, so they will always be more favourable in these areas, such as a downtown part of the city where there is a tight grid layout.
They both play their part.
but those are city streets as opposed to travel corridors to another area
the traffic flow is entirely different
@@papalaz4444244 I agree
Oh for gods sake this bicycle issue.
I was taught at the end of the 90's & we just used car rules, inside lane for past 12 o'clock, never had a problem until the last 6 or 7 years & now apparently we're supposed to use the outisde all the way round, yeah, that sounds safer for sure.
I've actually started just getting off my bike & using pedestrian crossings, our roads are a bloody mess now.
& there's the incosiderate selfish cyclists among us as well along with the worst drivers who've polarised the worst in each other that's caused this weird behavior in some drivers to just see a cyclist & think cunt & just make things as dangerous as possible, like exactly at roundabouts.
I cannot believe I used to ride those things 25 years ago as a fucking kid, how the fuck did I manage that, & so safely & confidently as well.
Things are so different now, it's actually just scary being on the roads as a cyclist now, & I do my damdest to accommodate everyone as well.
I actually have a friend whos dad is an ex instructor, who nearly killed a cyclist when I was riding passanger with him.
He never saw a damn thing he did wrong & bitched about the cyclist (Who WE came up on from behind) approaching a junction, I heard his gas foot, it's like he wanted to make sure we got riiight along side the cyclist Who Would Be Able To Hear Our Engine revving up behind her closing in.
I just could not, & still cannot believe it.
I just, how, I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I drove like that, & then went home deluded into thinking the slower cyclist is somehow the problem on a road with no sidewalk who was forced By US into hugging the curb.
Oh btw, she was trying to turn.
Fuck me, none of what he did that day makes any sense, regardless of her turning, he inexplicably perfected his timing to pass her right at the absolute most dangerous point in a junction.....
Rather than just keeping his foot off the gas which would've had us pass by her after the junction, or in the case of her turning, not a-fukin-tall, & all he had to do, was LITERALLY NOTHING.
And then he spent the next 5 minutes to his bitching about the cyclist, like there was anything they could've done to prevent his overt narrcisistic retardation.
I just did not know what to say, I've since tried, I got exactly the reaction I thought I'd get, a closed loop of self important all knowing ignorance.
Zero objectivity.
Mind you, this is also a guy who once soaked my shows trying to show me how he cleans the soals of his shoes & then claimed no water went anywhere near the cloth....
Like it wasn't all over my foot as he said it......
Yeah, our roads are a mess for a few reasons but the worst in all road users have made proper logical discussion a thing to fear because they might be the super aggresive types, you just don't know
North and South Lanarkshire aren't cities! :P
Also, google "Magic roundabout Swindon" ...
Joel has a bit of a tan. Hope you have a great JPS Brat Summer 🔥
As a cyclist who values their life, I do not ride my bike at busy roundabouts. I simply get off my bike and push it to the nearest traffic light; no laws or limbs broken. Luckily, in London's many high-traffic areas, a lot of the bike lanes are on the pavements and/or lead to quieter side streets.
don't your roundabouts have pedestrian crossings? (the once we call zebra-crossings)
if you don't have a dedicated cycle lane just step off your bike at one of those and you become a pedestrian, and pedestrians have priority at those crossings, so now the cars have to let you cross the street before they can cross.
@@ChristiaanHW some have crossings on the roundabout; others have crossings nearby. Some of the smaller roundabouts do have zebra crossings and they are really useful for cyclists.
Unfortunately, even with the available crossings, pedestrians still run across roundabouts without waiting for the lights to change and get hit by cars. Almost every roundabout I can think of has had flowers laid outs on them to pay respects to someone who died. I lost a friend the same way. Perhaps we need more zebra crossings
@@JosiahDePhoenix ah ok, so where you're at they have lights at the pedestrian crossings, so the pedestrians (and cyclists that want to use the crossing) have to wait for a light to turn green.
in my country there are no lights at roundabouts, so the pedestrians (and cyclists in the build up area) have priority. so the cars have to let them go first.
I know as a cyclist myself I thought cycling seems a bit of a non issue - and 100% not a valid reason to remove roundabouts in cities as the obvious cyclists groupthinkers are reported to be doing here in Britain as per this quoted article in the video, that if true is frankly ridiculous
The point of biking is you don't require anywhere near as much leeway a car requires and to weave through traffic effortlessly and reach your destination much quicker than for example a car, to identify with the self righteous spandex crowd, who seem to want nothing but problems instead of simply biking normally, see I use my bike to get to work and to my house again, my bike is a vehicle, a quicker more efficient and infitely cheaper vehicle I use specifically for getting to work, I use my car for everything else
If you require a car's worth of space to ride a bike you don't know how to use one, get the bus instead
Without enforcement, every road & junction in lethal!
Roundabouts in Washington DC are much older than “the first modern” roundabouts that were built in Nevada. DuPont Circle is Washington, DC was built in 1871. The circles in DC are listed on the National Historic Preservation list.
I am a big fan of roundabouts. I will say the one around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris is a bloody nightmare.
Not really sure why Canberra, Australia is not featured in these Roundabout lists, it has more per Capital than Carmel, Indiana. With over 800 for a Population of 478,000, compared with over 120 for a Population of 101,964 for Carmel, Indiana.
An American friend said he thought they didn't have roundabouts very often because they dont think the locals are considerate enough to use them correctly. They want to be first at everything and so would just drive into the roundabout if it was thier turn or not,
You seem like a really nice guy! :)
That list of cities with the most roundabouts contains North and South Lanarkshire, both of which are not cities. They are council areas
Australia has plenty of roundabouts as well. 🇦🇺🦘
Roundabouts are fine. But too many have poor visibility, so you're left to guess if anything is coming.
we have traffic lights on our round abouts in the UK 😄
When I first started driving, roundabouts with traffic lights were rare. Unfortunately due to the amount of morons on the road, they've become more and more necessary .
The US road system is all about the word STOP! (Stop signs, stop lights, four way stops, three way stops etc.) The word stop is ingrained in people's minds. Yield signs are a rarity and people have difficulty adapting to the idea.
a stop sign or even an intersection with lights is easy, the sign/light tells you what to do no thinking required.
but at a yield sign the driver has to think for themselves.
i think that's one of the main things that makes (US)Americans detest the yield sign, now they have another thing that they have o do while driving.
I never understood why the usa doesn't adopt the european system where trafic from the right always has the right of way on intersections without signs.
And busy troughways are turned into roads with the right of way and sidestreets just have to give way to priority trafic.
Those are the triangles you see painted on european streets. Sharktooth is what we call them. If they point at you, you must give way to other trafic comming from both left and right.
It works perfectly, this with roundabouts basicly makes stop signs obsolete. I don't think i have seen a stop sign in the netherlands in at least 15 or 20 years. They used to be pretty common here as well.
@@rogerk6180 because the people in the US get told their whole life that the US is the best and Nr 1 in everything.
so a lot of them think there's nothing to learn from the rest of the world, and whatever the rest of the world uses must be worse than the US way.
for example Fahrenheit vs Celsius.
or Imperial vs Metric
@@ChristiaanHW such a shame though. For all of the usa's biggest problems there are multiple examples where other countries solved the exact same issue already, often even a bunch of countries in their own certain way. All it has to do is pick the one that suits them best and copy it. There really is no reason to struggle with those things anymore the way they are doing.
Joel,,,,,the Carmel Experiment was was designed in most of Europe,,,, but Danish 🇩🇰 Designers were very involved with the Carmel Indiana Experiment.
Hi Joel , it's a great video (pierre)
Sadly, in the UK, we seem to be going the opposite way in putting more and more traffic signals in, even in places where a zebra crossing would be more ideal or very close to existing traffic signals which only serves to create more congestion
No roundabouts, more accidents, more litigation.
Of course driving around a roundabout in the UK is part of driving instruction to get your driving license. The American driving instruction and licensing appears very sloppy to me
I’m glad maybe compared to other countries we fair better, I’m coming from my experiences as a Brit and I find it a horrible place to drive but fair play 👍
Roundabouts are bad for business. At every intersection with a light expect businesses on each corner. You have to drive in circles trying to figure out how to drive into the 7/11, the Publix or the Burger King parking lot?
North and south Lanarkshire are NOT cities but rather a council region
I suspect a lot of the roundabout accidents involving cyclists are due to bikes getting too close to vehicles like vans that have blind spots. Modern vehicles have quite poor visibility compared to those of the '60s and '70s. This is due to regulations to make them safer for the passengers.
The driver education in the US is poorer than in West European countries. The roundabouts alone are not making traffic safer.
They do make it harder for idiots to create accidents.
And if they still manage to crash on a roundabout the concequences are just less severe because of the much reduced speed of both cars and the angles at which the cars hit eachother.
They make it much harder for idiots to do critical damage.
@@rogerk6180 I didn’t say they didn’t
Actually they are safer. The number of crashes and accidents at an intersection falls 10 times when a roundabout is installed. For the same traffic. The same place.
The same population of drivers.
My mind boggles that you are in Europe and still managing to upload! you must have recorded loads before you left! enjoy your trip stay safe!
We have so many guns because it's Constitutional. I'm not a fan of roundabouts. I've noticed that here in the States (at least my state) the roundabouts are too damn small. Poorly designed by engineers who apparently don't drive.
Ik ben geboren in Engeland, 77, fast forward to 2006 when after very many years in europe living , vakantie en zo, ik heb meer lief van NL infra dan andsre Europese beurzen , have you seen dashcam UK recently?
I think the reason roundabouts were slow to be implemented in the US is because it wasn't a US intervention.
"If you don't understand how a roundabout works..." you are either American or do not have a drivers license.
The roundabouts which have traffic lights require people to have patience as various vehicles go where they are seeking. Unfortunately I find Americans are always in a hurry. We on the other hand have learned patience and tolerance. It is time more Americans learned these traits too. If Sacoolas had not been so impatient she might not have killed the motorbike rider. She was on the wrong side of the road. It might be necessary to be always going at speed in your country but not in ours. Time you lot slowed down in all you do. You might be surprised at some of the positive things we have and are doing. I personally do not agree with anyone who has not passed a British driving test being allowed on our roads. The driving on the opposite side of the road to most other countries is but one factor. The need for patience is another, which is definitely lacking from most Americans. Don't complain. Instead learn and adapt.
Carmel was designed by the Danish
The States love to give out tickets.
once again, this is not exclusive to the UK, these are everywhere except the USA
Gosh, Joel, how many times did you say "it"s not easy/cheap to bring about change"?
Obvioulsy, but take example on this that proves that "where there's a will, there's a way": "How to (Quickly) Build a Cycling City - Paris" - Not Just Bikes (on YT)
i live near heathrow, i can tell when americans are on the road xD They look TERRIFED behing the wheel as the traffic system in london is a mess
Roundabouts don’t feel safer in my city.
Most Americans can't figure them out
Who on earth came up with bicyclists? Never heard of such word - it's just a cyclist. If it's powered then a motorcyclist.
I think, traffic lights are much better, because I'm too lazy to think ...
They are safer, but are a nightmare to drive on sometimes.
So... something different (roundabouts in this case), is something to complain about. Humm 🤔. Why?
Conservatism. A deeply rooted aversion to change, good or bad.