The Complexities of the Martial Artist's Mindset: Claire Bouchard at TEDxColumbiaCollege

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  • Claire Bouchard is a sophomore at Barnard College of Columbia University who has
    recently created her own major: Philosophy of Language. She has been training in
    Shotokan Martial Arts since the age of 6, under Sensei Avi Azoulay at the Syosset
    Martial Arts Center, and began competing internationally at the age of 12 in Japan.
    Now, Claire is a member of the AJKA United States National Karate Team and is in the
    process of training for the Euro Cup in Berlin, Germany next September. Claire is also a
    Resident Assistant and Speaking Fellow at Barnard College.
    This talk was given at TEDxColumbiaCollege in November of 2012 at Columbia University in New York City.
    In the spirit of ideas worth spreading, TEDx is a program of local, self-organized events that bring people together to share a TED-like experience. At a TEDx event, TEDTalks video and live speakers combine to spark deep discussion and connection in a small group. These local, self-organized events are branded TEDx, where x = independently organized TED event. The TED Conference provides general guidance for the TEDx program, but individual TEDx events are self-organized.* (*Subject to certain rules and regulations)

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  • @peterh4446
    @peterh4446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    In Okinawan karate, there’s an understanding that there is a huge difference between tournament karate and traditional karate. Traditional karate has a completely different mindset; there is no competition.

  • @caesar4857
    @caesar4857 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    tbh, i think she could have gone into more detail about the 'complexities of the martial artists mindset' than just telling her experience and of a job interview

  • @sliderx1897
    @sliderx1897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh wow i know Claire! We used to train together at ajka summer camp

  • @anayellyrosas581
    @anayellyrosas581 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She spoke way to much about herself and jobi interviews. Her talk was dry and wasn't engaging at all. I don't practice Karate, I respect it 100%. I practice Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Yes it does help in interviews but it helps live life too. It is a way of life. I consider BJJ a way of life.

    • @anthonymaloney6838
      @anthonymaloney6838 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, living the BJJ life is in every part of my life. Maximum efficiency with minimum effort. I'm not lazy, I'm just smart. More energy means I can perform with more longevity than fighting against the tide.

  • @edwardkirkhope814
    @edwardkirkhope814 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I like TED talks generally but too many are all about 'me'. I do this, I do that, I am in this team and am an expert in this. Too much about me not enough about the philosophy.

    • @adamzoubi96
      @adamzoubi96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This one is a perfect example..

    • @Johnny-Bboyz
      @Johnny-Bboyz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree, but there does need to be a level of logos, verification of merit to show that you know what you're talking about. of course it can go too far

  • @mark11145
    @mark11145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She has done an excellent job of describing the mind set of an athlete. A very valuable and useful mindset. However the mind set of a bujin, martial artist, is very different, as the situation is different.

  • @TamirNahor
    @TamirNahor 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's a great explanation, even though I think martial arts is way more complex when it comes to philosophy.
    In the Chinese martial arts there is the need to find peace and truly understand it.
    Whit peace as your sidekick, even in a bloody battle - you will find calmness and win.

    • @ThomasToPC
      @ThomasToPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good point! The Chinese character for martial is composed of two other characters, one meaning the polearm weapon the dagger-axe, the other meaning to stop. Martial disciplines in that culture serves to stop conflict, to make peace. Make peace with yourself, then make peace with your situation. It is exactly like how Sun Tzu said in the Art of War.

    • @martintrinidadgonzalez4379
      @martintrinidadgonzalez4379 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomasToPC and the kanji for wu shu it use war or stop the fight, as I remember

  • @daboodeef179
    @daboodeef179 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Modern martial arts: make a mistake and you loose a point. Ancient martial arts: make a mistake and you die. To me I try to follow the Way of Budo. Personally, I don't care for tournaments. Just because you can win a tournament does not mean you can win a fight and it does not mean that you have developed a compassionate & loving heart and focused mind.

    • @bendavernas8580
      @bendavernas8580 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +daboodeef179 Many don't know the difference, I had the good fortune to spend thirteen years at an orthodox Shotokan dojo, a small Japanese sensei who was as tough as they came, that karate was no game, it was the real thing, never finished a match with him without cuts or bruises, the highlight was a right hook to my face once, several stitches and a week long headache, just like in the old days.

  • @05dturner
    @05dturner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think a little too much arrogance came out in the beginning when referring to people in the gym as people who don't think. I'm not a gym fanatic, but I know plenty who are and they incorporate a LOT of precision in their training. So much so that it becomes their way of life. They isolate muscle groups, change up workouts to keep from growing accustomed to just one, focus on their diet, and learn new workouts to add to the ones they already use. Martial arts is the same way. It can incorporate enough precision to become a lifestyle as well, but shouldn't be thought to be above another way of life. That being said, I believe the MA mindset to be a warriors mindset. All the philosophy and life lessons taught in most schools are fine and dandy, but only to make you a more effective combatant. People now begin MA for different reasons, but the original intent was to use it against your enemy. That's why so many styles exist because different ideas of how to make it more effective to defeat an enemy were being thought out. If people want to train just to get in shape that's great. If they want to gain self confidence and peace of mind that's fine too, but regardless of your reason for beginning to train you should remember that the original intent was to hurt people.

  • @freddybonilla2472
    @freddybonilla2472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Lady has a point martial arts is not about physically hurting somebody or bullying or getting revenge, martial arts is about discipline and self-defense and self-control

  • @heatherhill3547
    @heatherhill3547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what your attitude and skill are all amazing

  • @artschannel1359
    @artschannel1359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with your comments about how much ego she seems to have.
    But I'm fascinated by the confidence she owns and the fact that most of you guys couldn't say those comments to her face.
    (Don't get offended either for this).

    • @timothymorton9523
      @timothymorton9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That isn't what her having to much Ego is about. What it is about is Martial Artist mindset true Martial Artist are confident but not overconfident and overestimate their abilities. Nor do they have as much Ego as she does, majy won't even bring it up unless it comes up in conversation

  • @heatherhill3547
    @heatherhill3547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you 😊

  • @MacCionnaith
    @MacCionnaith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so good, thank you

  • @shenders2671
    @shenders2671 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have a real issue with martial arts tournaments. Martial arts to me has never been about being better than someone else. It's about bettering yourself and developing your own mind and body, not to be able to compete against someone else for a medal.

    • @lHurtYourFeeIings
      @lHurtYourFeeIings 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MA tournament itself IS a process of bettering yourself physically and mentally. If you think people enter to "win" then you are the one mistaken. Try stepping into the ring, both Kata or Sparring, you'll know what I mean.

    • @shenders2671
      @shenders2671 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      GoldenPimp I would have thought that walking away with a medal still constitutes 'winning' in my mind. But I'd be interested to hear more of your thoughts given that I obviously have not entered any tournaments (and up to this point would not consider it).

    • @lHurtYourFeeIings
      @lHurtYourFeeIings 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Samantha Henderson
      Oh trust me, the medal is not the win. I have done Kung Fu for a long time, there was a time when I thought, "Would it be great if I can find someone to fight in a safe manner? Just to test out my own skills? Win or lose it would still be fun." I started posting online asking for people to spar with, strangers. But it finally occur to me might as well just enter a local competition! Win or lose, I have a blast. I end up making a lot of friends. Unlike the old days, people had to "pick fights" to test their skills, we are more civilized than that. Win or lose, the end result in the long run is more than the stupid medal itself. Matter of fact, I lose all the time. No body cares. :)

    • @shenders2671
      @shenders2671 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      GoldenPimp Cheers for clearing that up. :) I guess that's kind of like me; I really enjoy sparring too and consider it a test of my skills that I have learnt in the dojang. But do you do point sparring or free sparring? I know that in the karate tournaments they do point sparring and the associated rules surrounding it annoy me.
      But I get what you mean. All of my friends where I currently live are from karate given our understanding of the discipline and our like-mindedness, so I understand that the end of the day, it's just about getting out and doing it.

    • @bendavernas8580
      @bendavernas8580 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Samantha Henderson : Nothing wrong with tournaments as long as one knows the difference.

  • @lain777
    @lain777 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dont even talk about martial art if your speciality is kata.

  • @ShayneMicchia
    @ShayneMicchia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Her ego and attitude are not a martial arts mindset.

  • @willwest825
    @willwest825 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'm tall and i hardly use my legs, well i don't kick above my waist, it's useless

  • @dhanaji782
    @dhanaji782 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tedx ..Requested you for English subtitle

  • @christopherjones7023
    @christopherjones7023 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She showed control, preparation, good timing and emphasis on her points, and composure, but little more. Where is the discipline, the dedication, the resolve? She lost because she was too focused on an injury to her _thumb_ of all things. I managed to get through a day of pushing carts full of "housewares" at the local Goodwill as like 1/3 to 1/2 of my job there with a shoulder so sore from overuse at times that it froze up on me, and just gritted through it until I got a cold compress on the sucker and let it rest. It slowed me down, and proved to be a nuisance, but I _didn't_ let it stop me. I dug in deep until it got better. Then I went out and got back to work without missing a day from that self-inflicted injury. When life pushes you, you don't cave: you push *back* harder than before.

  • @badgirlhollywood9741
    @badgirlhollywood9741 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love martial arts especially when women practice it because it has so much power

  • @peedinkus389
    @peedinkus389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She never gets around to the complexities of the martial arts mind.

  • @khadijahsams8369
    @khadijahsams8369 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is So Beautiful

  • @core3604
    @core3604 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is simple and nothing with martial arts mindset... kata ?

  • @SilentAdventurer
    @SilentAdventurer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow...that is not a martial arts mind set.

    • @harivigneshm9794
      @harivigneshm9794 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why not?

    • @adamzoubi96
      @adamzoubi96 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol karate guys think they are actually fighters 😂😂
      Real fighters look at this and crack with laughter !

    • @timothymorton9523
      @timothymorton9523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamzoubi96 "karate guys" interesting. Being a "karate guy" isn't being a fighter. It is being a Martial Artist and I'll explain what the women in this video clearly did not. And explain it right. So a Martial artist is more than just fighting, it is learning to defend yourself in the correct way, "real fighters" I assume you mean UFC fighters? Or maybe street fighters, Martial Arts teaches you how to defend in street fights or competition many Katas involve throat strikes and groin strikes which is used on the streets, for they are not allowed in competition. Now that the physical is over, let's talk about the TRUE mindset of a Martial Arts to, a true martial Artist would never fight for no reason cause they no that they may hurt someone competition is different because they're layered in protection and hitting too hard can be a penalty. A Martial Artist is someone whom can fight, and knows when it is appropriate to fight, they do not attack somebody for talking nonsense. When someone gives you a gun you could shoot someone for no reason, you must know how to control that gun and know when to use it. Their are many more mindset traits of a Martial artist to but this text would be too long. But in short UFC fighters aren't martial Artist. Not technically they have the gun but don't know when to use it, many UFC fighters do not know when to control their emotions and will fight for no apparent reason other than their matches. Connor McGregor is a perfect example of this, not all are this way, many are. So I hope you read this because knowledge comes from reading and bfore anyone here decided to say something un-logical. I'm not just blowing smoke about something I know nothing about, I'm not an expert but I take Taekwondo and learn a little Krav Maga from my uncle. Like I said no expert just attempting to educate you. Thank you and have a wonderful day or night

  • @emptycam4760
    @emptycam4760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great talk... 👌🔥

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  • @RecoveringGenius
    @RecoveringGenius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This chick needs to have a beer and just relax.

  • @kurt9894
    @kurt9894 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kumite is just as important as kata. both are aspects of the combative mindset. which is what martial arts is all about in its spirit..combat.
    All traditional martial arts, like karatedo stem from Kenjutsu (Samurai sword fighting arts). the focus of of sword fighting arts being of course killing your opponent with your sword. Ken=Sword, Karate=empty hand, karatedo=killing your opponents with your hands.
    The aim of studying Kumite, kata and Kihon is to develop methods of survival in combat. The tempering of the physical body, the spirit and mind is the study of martial arts. What is often not talked about is that through this tempering while preparing for combat one also prepares for job interviews, for getting in car accidents, for medical emergencies, for parenting, for life, for death.
    I realize that there are allot of martial artists in this thread, understand this is my idea of what martial arts are as a whole to me before getting angry.

  • @KaptainCanuck
    @KaptainCanuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off, kumite is NOT fighting. It is, as the tae kwoen doin call it, playing and the participants are players, All in all, I agree with many of comments here,

    • @sliderx1897
      @sliderx1897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not in karate. I know claire personally, shel eat u up

    • @KaptainCanuck
      @KaptainCanuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sliderx1897 , still a game of tag, pure and simple.

    • @sliderx1897
      @sliderx1897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaptainCanuck u know we do spar without point or stoppage? Its called free sparring usually for hours. Only competition is point sparring. Remember tournament is sport, a game. Not fighting and fighting skill or ability shouldn't be judged on such.

    • @KaptainCanuck
      @KaptainCanuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sliderx1897 , I am in agreement that sparring of any kind, except no rules full-contact (aka street ideals) is a game of tag.

    • @sliderx1897
      @sliderx1897 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KaptainCanuck so u kill your training partners? Thats logical

  • @azgarhossain351
    @azgarhossain351 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gan

  • @awesomeawesomesauce
    @awesomeawesomesauce 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Too much artist not enough martial :(
    Martial arts are supposed to teach you how to triumph in hand to hand combat. Stack the deck so you're chances of winning are higher. Be stronger, have more stamina, have faster reflexes, have better technique etc. That's all there is to it.

    • @willwest825
      @willwest825 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      not really. that is very limited way of thinking

    • @awesomeawesomesauce
      @awesomeawesomesauce 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      will west
      Why is it a limited way of thinking? This is what happens to all practical arts. Eventually it becomes impractical and the people doing it for a living(in this case, people fighting wars) stop and the people doing it for entertainment(self-enlightenment etc.) start screwing with it. Out of that we get point sparring karate which is a horrible approximation of what real hand to hand combat is.

    • @willwest825
      @willwest825 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesomeawesomesauce martial arts isnt just about the physical aspect, but the mental as well. if you ignore philosophy as well that's how you get point sparring

    • @awesomeawesomesauce
      @awesomeawesomesauce 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      will west
      I don't believe it. A reasoned out argument on youtube. We may not agree on this but I still commend you on good form.
      My problem with her is that she is talking about point sparring as though it's designed to simulate actual combat. Point sparring is just a tool to get you confident and loose so you can think in a high pressure situation. MMA is a fairly good approximation of actual combat but even that has its limitations since alot of things need to be banned because they're to long term damaging without influencing the fight enough so even though they aren't effective they become perfect surprise tactics because they can't be trained against.(groin kicks, biting etc.)

    • @willwest825
      @willwest825 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesomeawesomesauce
      haha thank you
      but from what i'm told bellator is more brutal, allowing headbutts and even groin shots

  • @adamzoubi96
    @adamzoubi96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Karate guys couldn't intimidate a todlar LOL

  • @HomelessNinjaKennedy
    @HomelessNinjaKennedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Possibly the worst TED talk out there