actually Mario doesn't die, he just gets teleported directly to hell LUIGI on the other hand absolutely straight up dies at the hands of dimentio, it's wild
Honestly, yeah I never saw Dimentio as killing them, because it'd feel really wrong for Bowser to die that easily after we've seen what he can survive, and two, t feels really wrong for Dimentio to just be able to do that in the first place.
When is it said that Luigi actually dies? it makes more sense for Luigi to also be teleported, since the queen does say that they are alive, and Dimentio needed Luigi for his plan
@@francjirachi I like to imagine he sent Mario and co there because he knew he could count on them to get Luigi back out along the way to get the Pure Heart there
Super Paper Mario is my single favorite game of all time. Something not mentioned but what I think is the core of this game is that every chapter is about a different kind of love, and that is what truly elevates it to the level of an imperfect masterpiece in my mind. There's a lot that I can say about its flaws, but that does not stop it from being so, so good in my eyes.
@@beterbomen They can't. I looked around and tried to find anything about it online, but all I've got is a singular Deviantart essay that takes beyond extreme liberties with the definition of "love"
What this game contains: -Space-shooter levels -Dating simulator segment -Multi-universe apocalyptic plot -Horror-like levels -Angels-Demons war -Prehistoric rollercoasters -Deep and fleshed-out stories and characters -Hell levels -Hilarious humour -So much deaths -Slavery level -Paradise levels -Amazing music And much more The simple fact they found a way to fit all of this in a single game without it seaming out of place is already incredible... I love this game so much!
I find myself randomly humming various pieces of sountrack from this game constantly, without realizing. Themes like Flipside, The Underwhere, The Overthere, The Ultimate Show, just to name a few
The talk about agency and the player's role made me sad that you didn't mention that you as the player can actually _refuse to save the multiverse._ if you decline Merlon's request at the start of the game enough times, he will actually accept defeat and then give you an immediate Game Over _before even getting a chance to move!_
@@anotherblowncartridge It actually comes up again in chapter 4 when Tippi asks you to put on the fishbowl as a helmet. You can refuse her enough times that she just gives up on you and gives you another Game Over. Those are the only two instances that I'm aware of in this game.
@@angeldude101 That's fascinating! Thanks for letting me know. I plan to make a larger video in the future comparing all Paper Mario games, and I'll be sure to mention these instances and credit you directly for bringing it up.
@@angeldude101There are two more. There is one where you refuse to help Jaydes find her missing daughter Luvbi and she just kills you right on the spot. The other is where you agree to help Dimentio in Chapter 8-3 and literally get Floro Sprouted and become Dimentio's slaves! :D /s
Things in SPM that I will never shut up about: - onscreen murder of main character(s) - onscreen murder-suicide - genocide - slavery - actual hell - implied suicide - forced marriage - mimi. - other things i probably forgot How did this game get rated e for everyone-
I gotta say, this deserves much more attention. This is a very high quality breakdown of one of my favourite games of all time. The point you made about the avatars in video games being stand-ins for us, the players, and how if we give up on the game, we essentially doom their world, really resonated with me. This was very well-made, well-edited, and wonderfully written. You've earned yourself a subscriber tonight 🙏
I think whats cool about the unique design of Super Paper Mario, is that it lends itself well to sequels specifically for that story and gameplay format. Intelligent Systems should totally make Super Paper Mario 2. Even if it doesn't necessarily directly connect to the same characters of Flipside, I think it would be fun.,
I remember playing this as my first paper Mario game and it was such a fun time. I’ve replayed it several times now and it’s still so fun, plus the characters are amazing. Bleck is a great big bad, Mimi is creepy and i love that, Chunks gives me some TF2 Heavy vibes and he’s great, Dimentio is terrifyingly weird but has such an amazing design. Also, can’t forget Nastacia and her devotion to the count while also hoping to better him at the end. Old paper Mario fans want the partners from TYD to return in modern paper Mario games, but I personally hope we get to see Bleck and his minions return at some point cause they are all amazing in their own ways.
This game was a big part of my childhood, really sad that Nintendo course-corrected away from this style of game, with quotes from higher ups about wanting to keep Mario game stories very simple
I recently replayed this game a few weeks ago and let me tell you this game is phenomenal. It really sucks that this game marked the change in Paper Mario because of its reception, and I truly feel the entire serious tone of the story and setting was taken entirely for granted.
This is such a fascinating video for me. I love Super Paper Mario as much at it seems you do, and I've always seen the game through the lens of each chapter being an exploration of different types of love, from parental love with the whole Luvbi story, to love of games with Francis, to love of a leader with the floro sapiens. I like looking at this because it discusses the immense good and bad that each kind of love can hold in people's lives, and I just find the game fascinating. Your analysis blew my mind because I hadn't thought about the "game over" things as anything but fun tongue-in-cheek jokes, but it makes so much more SENSE. Ahhh I love this game so, so much. Fantastic video!
Compared with other Paper Mario games, or Mario in general, Super Paper Mario features many characters consisting of simple geometric shapes and lines. This may feel odd seeing these characters, compared with characters from other Mario games being made of more natural shapes, but it is odd in a good way and I appreciate that.
There’s so much more lore in the game too it’s absolutely insane I love it so much and spent way too many coins on the story tellers in the bar just to learn them. Gotta love the pixl uprising literally being Dimentio’s sisters story.
iirc, the Dark Prophecy wins by default if the Light Prophecy isn't acted upon. It's really cool how the story actively gives the player a choice on which path to follow, rather than go "there is only one destiny"- even if you can really only go a single path since it's a video game nintendo please bring back the bleck team im begging you
God, yeah, that game was a rollercoaster of emotions! Amazingly funny and shockingly scary at times. It has its tedious moments, yes, but it will always have a special place in my heart as the first game in its genre that I ever played through (with my siblings, too! We had voice acting sessions while I played it through. It was fun as hell.) When I played the game and the story around Blumiere and Timpani (aka Count Bleck and Tippi) unfolded my heart broke. It was so sad. One of the reasons why it still lingers in the back of my head and pops up every now and then. The forbidden love, oh dear. Thank you for bringing me back to memory lane! 🧡
Honestly I think you hit one point on the nail: there was just nothing like the Storybook Paper Mario trilogy, that was something that was lost and still hasn't returned to this day, or has even at least been kept in the present. And I think that might play a big part in why it's so frustrating to some people. It's the same fate Mario & Luigi met.
Finally someone who understands that games can be different from their predecessors. I feel like people are just bitching about super paper mario as well as sticker star only because they are a little different from the old games. I really enjoyed both of them btw ,if you linger on the THE END screen for a while you can see them kiss and walk away
This was an amazing video and I'm so glad people are talking about my literal favorite game again! Subscribed for now, I would love to see an analysis of Super Paper Mario's music, as I've never seen anyone analyze it apart from one or two, but the entire soundtrack has a lot of hidden stuff in it: for example "the evil count bleck" is a remix of the memory theme, and "Look Out for Me" has a double meaning, either look for merlee or watch out for mimi Regardless, great job on the vid!
Thanks so much, and I'll definitely return to Super Paper Mario again to talk about it more. Your idea about analyzing the music is pretty interesting!
Genuinely one of my favorite games of all time, l cant stress enough how important this game is to me and like actually getting to play it was. The story, the characters, the music, even the post game content just goes to show how ambitious of a game this was, sure i might have some personal gripes with it on the terms of how some things appeared to me, but that's like hardly enough to sour my love for this game and I genuinely hope more people give this game a chance!!! One more thing, I always interpreted the whole Underwhere and Overthere dynamic to be a sort of interpretation of Greek and Christian takes on afterlife! The Underwhere being more Greek inspired because of the river Twigz, the Underchomp, hell, even Jaydes is a few letters away from Hades. But I honestly never thought of the interpretation of her being a sort of stand-in for Lilith! Meanwhile the Overthere is more straightforward, with the way the nimbi's talk, how Bonechill is pretty much a fallen angel and like how the place itself pretty much fits with our idea of Heaven. All in all, great video!! So glad that people are talking more and more about this game :D
Thank you so much for the great comment! And yes, Jaydes is definitely more based on Hades than what I said, but I wanted to do a bit on an analysis that I hadn't seen before on TH-cam. None of them commenting on the history of Yahwehs wife or the mother of demons. I really appreciate your support.
The Overthere is more based on stereotypical renaissance imagery, and the nimbis speaking in Early Modern English is a comedic decision seeing as the Bible was written in Hebrew, but the Underwhere connections are definitely there. Also, the river fare is 4 coins, and 4 is associated with death in some cultures.
One of the things that surprised me is that I thought we would get all the Pure Hearts before the destruction of all universes. But no. Halfway through the game, one of the universes you're supposed to save literally dies with all its inhabitants. It comes back at the end but still. I thought we would get the Pure Heart before the destruction of this world. But instead it's annihilated before we can do so.
This is actually one of the first Paper Mario games I played! Really fun in my opinion, but can be irritating if you dont know what you're doing, but still fun nonetheless. Mimi was actually the only thing I was genuinely scared of when I played it for the first time when I was 8
Still trying to convince others to get this game. I love it when popular series take a moment to step out of their usual norms and comfort zone, and Wii-era Mario in particular was not afraid to go a little crazy with it, with Super Paper Mario being the peak of it all. I really hope we get something like this again some day.
This game remains my absolute favourite Mario game and one of my favourite games of all times, to the point where I've sung this game's praises more times than I remember. I remember being blown away playing this as a kid, and later playing it again as an adult and being blown away again at how deep the story is
I own both this game and The Origami King. While I ultimately prefer the latter, Super Paper Mario has an undeniable charm and aesthetic. It’s so out there in terms of Mario games and needs more recognition.
I've loved this game for 13 years and I never saw how genius the writing was. To be fair I was a child, but my God I need to play this game again but pay attention to the text. Thank you for reminding me about this goated Paper Mario Game!
I wonder what would have happened if the Paper Mario games didn't go into the direction of Sticker Star and onwards. I mean the stakes in this are so high (you're litaraly preventing the multiverse from being destroyed) that you can't really surpass it, but I would've loved to see what they would have come up with.
Super paper Mario was my first paper Mario. It was the beginning of the end of paper Marios quality. But that doesn't mean it was bad. It had that same charm and soul as the first two games. Maybe its not turned based but its solid.
I've always had a love for mario games that break the usual, overused plot (bowser kidnaps peach and mario has to get her back, yknow...). The rpg series was amazing, especially partners in time and bowser's inside story. Then one day I decided to buy this game to play on my old wii just to complete my paper mario collection. But holy hell do I regret that. No game has ever had me on the edge of my seat, frozen in shock, and literally crying, like this one did. I didn't even finish it before it became not just my favorite game, but the most incredible story I've ever experienced.
Grew up with this paper mario. There's no game like it. Love the art style, and especially the soundtrack. Amazing story. Got rose tinted glasses for it.
A lot of people who don’t play Nintendo games or think they’re a scummy company or whatever think Nintendo is like Apple, where only the loyal customers buy it for loyalty, and they think all their content is for children. They NEVER look into it or attempt to experience such a beautiful masterpiece of a game like SPM. Sure, the graphics aren’t ultra HD 8K running 120 FPS on the latest console with online multiplayer, but this game is based on so many principles and morals. A lot of the references with Grambi for example, carry on in the game, with Mario especially, as a protagonist in a “innocent” series having many moral and Catholic-Christian values. We as a society should strive for this and not let all of these modern differences and people above us socially and economically influence our basic ideas of, love and treat everyone equally, and work to be a better person, be kind, don’t hurt others who’ve wronged you, acknowledge that laziness, vengeance and belligerence isn’t contributing to making peace in our society. I love how this game shows that love and respect come in many forms, and we should care about each other for the greater good of our society, social status, and our world. I’ve said my piece. ❤
@@thellamadj283 That's right, the least predictable and most interestingly designed antagonist we've likely ever had. I am quite fond of Fawful from the Mario & Luigi RPG series, but Dimentio takes the cake in terms of just about every category
@@anotherblowncartridge I'm a Dimentio sucker, and yet I need to admit that Fawful is such a big deal and a referent to many of us, he literally built up the entire Mario & Luigi franchise. I think these two villains come very close one to another in terms of comparison, and perhaps subjective opinion is the only thing that makes one of them surpass the other.
@thellamadj283 Well, Dimentio may have less "screen time" than Fawful, sure. But he's a more complex character with an overall better and more unique design, at least in my opinion. I also think Fawful is a very "one note" villain whereas Dimentio's motivations and goals are initially unclear, making him more interesting
THIS. I played this game when I as still a kid and it soon became one of my favorite games that lead me to enjoy other very similar games in a way like undertale, deltarune, omori etc
I've only ever played 5, and while I dont REALLY hate any of them, I do agree with your 4/6. Granted you're maybe more a Colour Splash and Sticker Star fan?
@anotherblowncartridge8929 Colour Splash is the only one I haven't played purely because I never got around to it. I agree, I don't dislike any of them. i actually played Sticker Star when i was a kid, and being a stupid kid, i loved it, not that i dislike it. Sticker Star and Colour Splash are at the bottom of the list just because the others are better. if you're interested, my ranking feom best to worst would be 1: Super Paper Mario 2: Thousand Year Door 3: N64 4: Origami King 5: Colour Splash 6: Sticker Star love the video by the way, great work!
TTYD and SPM are really the games that gave Paper Mario its unique and different identity. They felt more like precursors to modern indie RPGs than your typical Mario games. SPM is basically Undertale before Undertale.
Between this and Skyward Sword, the Wii had a ton of ingenious titles that went relatively unappreciated. In my opinion, what really messed this game up was actually just having "Paper Mario" in the title, because crazily enough there's actually NO paper aesthetic in the whole game. There's a strong 2D design, of course because 2D to 3D is a theme from the start. But never any paper like the first two games had. In fact, there's a strong "computerized" aesthetic I didn't even think about for the longest time. Maybe if it had been called "Super 2D Mario" or something, it wouldn't be looked down on as "That one Paper Mario sequel".
This is a great point. It's more like "Dimensional Mario" rather than paper. As well, as a fan of Skyward Sword, I couldnt agree more. The Wii has many beloved classics, and games that are heavily underrated.
the first glimpse of 'Super Paper Mario' I ever got was a Nintendo Power cover that read 'You Won't Believe What's Coming', and they were *Fucking* right. SPM grabbed my psyche at age 12, the first video game I ever beat, and I've been gay ever since
this was the game that for the first time, i really started reading in game dialogue. and my god, was it an experience. i remember eating mcdonald’s right before entering the final level like it was training before a UFC fight.
A great video and analysis of my 2nd favorite video game of all time! Great content, you've earned a new sub! Love Super Paper Mario to bits, and it's easily the best in the series. Hope to watch more of your content! Thank you for all the hard work you put into this critical video
99th sub, ur so close to 100. Video plays out like the ones made on much larger channels, so its really surprising you're lower down. Hoping this gets views because i love it and can't wait for more. Amazing job 🤍
Hello randomly suggested channel. You are really good. Maybe I am again lucky to see a channel skyrocket? But about Super Paper Mario: It is really one of the most unique games I have ever played. But tbh, I never really got myself to actually play it through the end, the gameplay has been too annoying for me. Dimensio, MrL and.... Graf Knickwitz(thats his german name) are really interesting characters, going the same direction as Fawful. Really a shame that Intelligent Systems wont make a gamelike this with so much charm and character probably.
brave of you to make a super paper mario video in 2023 despite all the hate it got, also i love the video it brought back so many memories thanks to your logical analysis and love for the game
I got it on the wii as a kid, got stuck a lot of times, eventually gave up because I wasn't having much fun I thought I was getting a turn based game so I was pretty disappointed but I'm gonna give it another go soon I think
This game confused me so much when I first played it. Coming from playing the original and TTYD, I was surprised at how different but unique super paper mario was. It is an easy game and yes some parts are extremely tedious (sammer guys I'm looking at you) but this game had a charm and it feels unique compared to all the games in the series. Very well done nintendo
this game was a COMPLETE masterpiece in my opinion if it wasnt for an emulator i would of never been able to play it but im glad i did it was well worth it
@@liannabunny7775 he seems FAR too lucid and deliberate in his choices to be acting on pain either. I think it would be even more interesting to his character if he did have this terrible backstory, throughout which he didn't change at all or care about anything other than his own life
in all honesty my biggest issue with the game was how easy it was. most of the difficulty came from things being tedious, not from enemies themselves being hard
I believe the primary connection is a pun on "Hades" the Greek God of the the Underworld, but... Yes! This is yet another literary connection I didn't consider until now! Great reference!!
There were 2 puzzles that i hated in this game. one in 1-2 where you stand on a blue pad and then press - and 1 and the other i think it was 5-3 where you have to hit coin blocks 20 times in a specific order but that's literally the only downside of this game.
actually Mario doesn't die, he just gets teleported directly to hell
LUIGI on the other hand absolutely straight up dies at the hands of dimentio, it's wild
Honestly, yeah I never saw Dimentio as killing them, because it'd feel really wrong for Bowser to die that easily after we've seen what he can survive, and two, t feels really wrong for Dimentio to just be able to do that in the first place.
Thus, Luigi has commited an unforgivable sin
When is it said that Luigi actually dies? it makes more sense for Luigi to also be teleported, since the queen does say that they are alive, and Dimentio needed Luigi for his plan
@@francjirachi I like to imagine he sent Mario and co there because he knew he could count on them to get Luigi back out along the way to get the Pure Heart there
nah, pretty sure mario's also dead. those were explosions to the face not just dimentio's usual teleport antics.
Super Paper Mario is my single favorite game of all time. Something not mentioned but what I think is the core of this game is that every chapter is about a different kind of love, and that is what truly elevates it to the level of an imperfect masterpiece in my mind. There's a lot that I can say about its flaws, but that does not stop it from being so, so good in my eyes.
Icon and name check out owo
I’ll second that.
It's also my favorite
Care to elaborate on that?
@@beterbomen They can't. I looked around and tried to find anything about it online, but all I've got is a singular Deviantart essay that takes beyond extreme liberties with the definition of "love"
What this game contains:
-Space-shooter levels
-Dating simulator segment
-Multi-universe apocalyptic plot
-Horror-like levels
-Angels-Demons war
-Prehistoric rollercoasters
-Deep and fleshed-out stories and characters
-Hell levels
-Hilarious humour
-So much deaths
-Slavery level
-Paradise levels
-Amazing music
And much more
The simple fact they found a way to fit all of this in a single game without it seaming out of place is already incredible...
I love this game so much!
Also Discord Moderator's House level
Great list!
if theres a great theme its river twygz bed
@@rickhuisman7723
It's great at what it tries, gotta admit.
You can’t forget as well, this game’s soundtrack goes HARD.
Especially the fruit collecting minigame
I find myself randomly humming various pieces of sountrack from this game constantly, without realizing. Themes like Flipside, The Underwhere, The Overthere, The Ultimate Show, just to name a few
@@aeliusdawn My favorite song from there was memory. The story of blumiere and timpani was good imo.
It truly is a banger OST
The talk about agency and the player's role made me sad that you didn't mention that you as the player can actually _refuse to save the multiverse._ if you decline Merlon's request at the start of the game enough times, he will actually accept defeat and then give you an immediate Game Over _before even getting a chance to move!_
Wow! I never knew that! That's a fantastic point!
@@anotherblowncartridge It actually comes up again in chapter 4 when Tippi asks you to put on the fishbowl as a helmet. You can refuse her enough times that she just gives up on you and gives you another Game Over. Those are the only two instances that I'm aware of in this game.
@@angeldude101 That's fascinating! Thanks for letting me know. I plan to make a larger video in the future comparing all Paper Mario games, and I'll be sure to mention these instances and credit you directly for bringing it up.
@@angeldude101There are two more. There is one where you refuse to help Jaydes find her missing daughter Luvbi and she just kills you right on the spot.
The other is where you agree to help Dimentio in Chapter 8-3 and literally get Floro Sprouted and become Dimentio's slaves! :D /s
@@liannabunny7775 on what chapter is the first?
Things in SPM that I will never shut up about:
- onscreen murder of main character(s)
- onscreen murder-suicide
- genocide
- slavery
- actual hell
- implied suicide
- forced marriage
- mimi.
- other things i probably forgot
How did this game get rated e for everyone-
Too bad we'll never see another Mario game with a story like this again.
I gotta say, this deserves much more attention. This is a very high quality breakdown of one of my favourite games of all time. The point you made about the avatars in video games being stand-ins for us, the players, and how if we give up on the game, we essentially doom their world, really resonated with me. This was very well-made, well-edited, and wonderfully written. You've earned yourself a subscriber tonight 🙏
Thank you so so much, I really appreciate your kind words. I'm so glad to know you've subscribed, and love Super Paper Mario, too.
I like it as well
I really wish there was a sequel or aftergame to this, it was so good 😣
I think whats cool about the unique design of Super Paper Mario, is that it lends itself well to sequels specifically for that story and gameplay format. Intelligent Systems should totally make Super Paper Mario 2. Even if it doesn't necessarily directly connect to the same characters of Flipside, I think it would be fun.,
I remember playing this as my first paper Mario game and it was such a fun time. I’ve replayed it several times now and it’s still so fun, plus the characters are amazing. Bleck is a great big bad, Mimi is creepy and i love that, Chunks gives me some TF2 Heavy vibes and he’s great, Dimentio is terrifyingly weird but has such an amazing design. Also, can’t forget Nastacia and her devotion to the count while also hoping to better him at the end. Old paper Mario fans want the partners from TYD to return in modern paper Mario games, but I personally hope we get to see Bleck and his minions return at some point cause they are all amazing in their own ways.
Well, just his minions anyways since Bleck's chilling out in another dimension now. I'd live to see what they're doing.
@@Jann75 tbh it's not to say him and Timpani can't just go wherever they like
What a great first Paper Mario game!
0:03 😂😂😂😂BOWSER'S ARMS!!!!!!
This game is peak Paper Mario, enough said.
Keep up the great work, you're really underrated!
Thank you so much. And fully agreed. The franchise needs to return to this style, at least one more time.
This game was a big part of my childhood, really sad that Nintendo course-corrected away from this style of game, with quotes from higher ups about wanting to keep Mario game stories very simple
I recently replayed this game a few weeks ago and let me tell you this game is phenomenal. It really sucks that this game marked the change in Paper Mario because of its reception, and I truly feel the entire serious tone of the story and setting was taken entirely for granted.
It's crazy because it's still a top selling game for the franchise!
This is such a fascinating video for me. I love Super Paper Mario as much at it seems you do, and I've always seen the game through the lens of each chapter being an exploration of different types of love, from parental love with the whole Luvbi story, to love of games with Francis, to love of a leader with the floro sapiens. I like looking at this because it discusses the immense good and bad that each kind of love can hold in people's lives, and I just find the game fascinating. Your analysis blew my mind because I hadn't thought about the "game over" things as anything but fun tongue-in-cheek jokes, but it makes so much more SENSE. Ahhh I love this game so, so much. Fantastic video!
Different types of love is a fascinating way of looking at it! Very clever analysis
Ah thank you! @@anotherblowncartridge
@@oversizedhoodie8648 Thank you for the brilliant comment!
Compared with other Paper Mario games, or Mario in general, Super Paper Mario features many characters consisting of simple geometric shapes and lines. This may feel odd seeing these characters, compared with characters from other Mario games being made of more natural shapes, but it is odd in a good way and I appreciate that.
I think it's really interesting style that we've never seen used again
Super Paper Mario is definitely my second favorite Wii game, I put hundreds of hours into the game
What's your first?
@@pugpartyproductions9499 Xenoblade
@@FilmGamer224 Xenoblade Chronicles and Super Paper Mario for top 2 Wii games are great picks.
There’s so much more lore in the game too it’s absolutely insane I love it so much and spent way too many coins on the story tellers in the bar just to learn them. Gotta love the pixl uprising literally being Dimentio’s sisters story.
The lore is fantastic! I would love a sequel that puts more of the lore to use in it's story.
iirc, the Dark Prophecy wins by default if the Light Prophecy isn't acted upon. It's really cool how the story actively gives the player a choice on which path to follow, rather than go "there is only one destiny"- even if you can really only go a single path since it's a video game
nintendo please bring back the bleck team im begging you
God, yeah, that game was a rollercoaster of emotions! Amazingly funny and shockingly scary at times. It has its tedious moments, yes, but it will always have a special place in my heart as the first game in its genre that I ever played through (with my siblings, too! We had voice acting sessions while I played it through. It was fun as hell.)
When I played the game and the story around Blumiere and Timpani (aka Count Bleck and Tippi) unfolded my heart broke. It was so sad. One of the reasons why it still lingers in the back of my head and pops up every now and then. The forbidden love, oh dear.
Thank you for bringing me back to memory lane! 🧡
imagen the Christmas in Paper Mario being called
Luvmas
Honestly I think you hit one point on the nail: there was just nothing like the Storybook Paper Mario trilogy, that was something that was lost and still hasn't returned to this day, or has even at least been kept in the present. And I think that might play a big part in why it's so frustrating to some people. It's the same fate Mario & Luigi met.
What an amazing video on such a great game, honestly wish I could play it for the first time again.
You and me both! Tremendously emotional and hilarious.
Finally someone who understands that games can be different from their predecessors. I feel like people are just bitching about super paper mario as well as sticker star only because they are a little different from the old games. I really enjoyed both of them
btw ,if you linger on the THE END screen for a while you can see them kiss and walk away
This was an amazing video and I'm so glad people are talking about my literal favorite game again!
Subscribed for now, I would love to see an analysis of Super Paper Mario's music, as I've never seen anyone analyze it apart from one or two, but the entire soundtrack has a lot of hidden stuff in it: for example "the evil count bleck" is a remix of the memory theme, and "Look Out for Me" has a double meaning, either look for merlee or watch out for mimi
Regardless, great job on the vid!
Thanks so much, and I'll definitely return to Super Paper Mario again to talk about it more. Your idea about analyzing the music is pretty interesting!
It’s secretly a love story between who are now Count Bleck and Tippi.
Genuinely one of my favorite games of all time, l cant stress enough how important this game is to me and like actually getting to play it was. The story, the characters, the music, even the post game content just goes to show how ambitious of a game this was, sure i might have some personal gripes with it on the terms of how some things appeared to me, but that's like hardly enough to sour my love for this game and I genuinely hope more people give this game a chance!!!
One more thing, I always interpreted the whole Underwhere and Overthere dynamic to be a sort of interpretation of Greek and Christian takes on afterlife! The Underwhere being more Greek inspired because of the river Twigz, the Underchomp, hell, even Jaydes is a few letters away from Hades. But I honestly never thought of the interpretation of her being a sort of stand-in for Lilith!
Meanwhile the Overthere is more straightforward, with the way the nimbi's talk, how Bonechill is pretty much a fallen angel and like how the place itself pretty much fits with our idea of Heaven.
All in all, great video!! So glad that people are talking more and more about this game :D
Thank you so much for the great comment! And yes, Jaydes is definitely more based on Hades than what I said, but I wanted to do a bit on an analysis that I hadn't seen before on TH-cam. None of them commenting on the history of Yahwehs wife or the mother of demons. I really appreciate your support.
The Overthere is more based on stereotypical renaissance imagery, and the nimbis speaking in Early Modern English is a comedic decision seeing as the Bible was written in Hebrew, but the Underwhere connections are definitely there. Also, the river fare is 4 coins, and 4 is associated with death in some cultures.
One of the things that surprised me is that I thought we would get all the Pure Hearts before the destruction of all universes. But no.
Halfway through the game, one of the universes you're supposed to save literally dies with all its inhabitants. It comes back at the end but still.
I thought we would get the Pure Heart before the destruction of this world. But instead it's annihilated before we can do so.
It's a great plot twist, and a particularly dark and brutal one at that.
@@anotherblowncartridge Yes, that's exactly what I thought. You don't really expect that from Mario, and yet, this happens.
This is actually one of the first Paper Mario games I played! Really fun in my opinion, but can be irritating if you dont know what you're doing, but still fun nonetheless. Mimi was actually the only thing I was genuinely scared of when I played it for the first time when I was 8
Definitely a game that having a nice Nintendo Power guide (or an always open Gamefaqs tab) tremendously benefits from.
Still trying to convince others to get this game. I love it when popular series take a moment to step out of their usual norms and comfort zone, and Wii-era Mario in particular was not afraid to go a little crazy with it, with Super Paper Mario being the peak of it all. I really hope we get something like this again some day.
This game remains my absolute favourite Mario game and one of my favourite games of all times, to the point where I've sung this game's praises more times than I remember. I remember being blown away playing this as a kid, and later playing it again as an adult and being blown away again at how deep the story is
This is one of the best games of all time
I own both this game and The Origami King. While I ultimately prefer the latter, Super Paper Mario has an undeniable charm and aesthetic. It’s so out there in terms of Mario games and needs more recognition.
Definitely! I'm glad to hear you really dig Origami King. What would you say you enjoy more about Origami King over SPM?
I've loved this game for 13 years and I never saw how genius the writing was. To be fair I was a child, but my God I need to play this game again but pay attention to the text. Thank you for reminding me about this goated Paper Mario Game!
it remains 2nd in "Games I f****ng LOVE"
Mother 3 being #1.
Paper Mario: Sticker Star sold more then the original Paper Mario and Thousand Year Door.
Let that sink in.
Yes this was one of the first games I played on the Wii, and one of the first games I've ever played. Truly a work of art
I wonder what would have happened if the Paper Mario games didn't go into the direction of Sticker Star and onwards. I mean the stakes in this are so high (you're litaraly preventing the multiverse from being destroyed) that you can't really surpass it, but I would've loved to see what they would have come up with.
The Origami King came close: w/the lead villain pushing for Toad *genocide*. That's on par w/the Shadow Queen at least.
i used to play this game like it was gonna give me eternal life and yet i had no idea that you could kill the eyeball enemies
W Video, this game will always be super special to my childhood. TTYD was my favorite but this game truly is in its own lane. Such a beautiful story
Super paper Mario was my first paper Mario.
It was the beginning of the end of paper Marios quality. But that doesn't mean it was bad. It had that same charm and soul as the first two games. Maybe its not turned based but its solid.
you’re right!! Super Paper Mario deserves more love. It’s my favorite right next to Paper Mario 64. it holds a special place in my heart ♥️
I've always had a love for mario games that break the usual, overused plot (bowser kidnaps peach and mario has to get her back, yknow...). The rpg series was amazing, especially partners in time and bowser's inside story. Then one day I decided to buy this game to play on my old wii just to complete my paper mario collection. But holy hell do I regret that. No game has ever had me on the edge of my seat, frozen in shock, and literally crying, like this one did. I didn't even finish it before it became not just my favorite game, but the most incredible story I've ever experienced.
Grew up with this paper mario. There's no game like it. Love the art style, and especially the soundtrack. Amazing story. Got rose tinted glasses for it.
In the past, I had to watch several tutorials to pass different parts because I didn't know English and I couldn't change the language to Spanish.
No matter how many times I play through this game i can never remember all the things that happen and i'm always surprised
I finished the game a week ago, and it was the only ending I’ve ever cried to over a game.
It's a brilliant ending!
A lot of people who don’t play Nintendo games or think they’re a scummy company or whatever think Nintendo is like Apple, where only the loyal customers buy it for loyalty, and they think all their content is for children. They NEVER look into it or attempt to experience such a beautiful masterpiece of a game like SPM. Sure, the graphics aren’t ultra HD 8K running 120 FPS on the latest console with online multiplayer, but this game is based on so many principles and morals. A lot of the references with Grambi for example, carry on in the game, with Mario especially, as a protagonist in a “innocent” series having many moral and Catholic-Christian values. We as a society should strive for this and not let all of these modern differences and people above us socially and economically influence our basic ideas of, love and treat everyone equally, and work to be a better person, be kind, don’t hurt others who’ve wronged you, acknowledge that laziness, vengeance and belligerence isn’t contributing to making peace in our society. I love how this game shows that love and respect come in many forms, and we should care about each other for the greater good of our society, social status, and our world.
I’ve said my piece. ❤
And, for the cherry on top, it contains one final major thing. That is, the best antagonist in the whole Mario franchise. Heads up to... Dimentio!
@@thellamadj283 That's right, the least predictable and most interestingly designed antagonist we've likely ever had. I am quite fond of Fawful from the Mario & Luigi RPG series, but Dimentio takes the cake in terms of just about every category
@@anotherblowncartridge I'm a Dimentio sucker, and yet I need to admit that Fawful is such a big deal and a referent to many of us, he literally built up the entire Mario & Luigi franchise. I think these two villains come very close one to another in terms of comparison, and perhaps subjective opinion is the only thing that makes one of them surpass the other.
@thellamadj283 Well, Dimentio may have less "screen time" than Fawful, sure. But he's a more complex character with an overall better and more unique design, at least in my opinion. I also think Fawful is a very "one note" villain whereas Dimentio's motivations and goals are initially unclear, making him more interesting
till this day , all childhood trauma still exists in SPM for all to see
THIS.
I played this game when I as still a kid and it soon became one of my favorite games that lead me to enjoy other very similar games in a way like undertale, deltarune, omori etc
Games that prioritize fun and creative stories meshing with connected gameplay twists
Super Paper Mario is my favorite video game of all time, a true masterpiece. Thanks for talking about it.
I love 4 out 6 paper mario games, but this will always be my favourite
I've only ever played 5, and while I dont REALLY hate any of them, I do agree with your 4/6. Granted you're maybe more a Colour Splash and Sticker Star fan?
@anotherblowncartridge8929 Colour Splash is the only one I haven't played purely because I never got around to it. I agree, I don't dislike any of them. i actually played Sticker Star when i was a kid, and being a stupid kid, i loved it, not that i dislike it. Sticker Star and Colour Splash are at the bottom of the list just because the others are better.
if you're interested, my ranking feom best to worst would be
1: Super Paper Mario
2: Thousand Year Door
3: N64
4: Origami King
5: Colour Splash
6: Sticker Star
love the video by the way, great work!
@@crumpchump Thank you, and that's a great ranking.
Top notch video, great quality
When i saw this i was not expecting you to have a mere 360 subs. You deserve more for this kind of quality
Thank you so much, you're too kind.
I love this video, it made me see things of this game that I didn't see before and to love it even more.
Thank you so much!
TTYD and SPM are really the games that gave Paper Mario its unique and different identity. They felt more like precursors to modern indie RPGs than your typical Mario games. SPM is basically Undertale before Undertale.
SPM is easily my most favorite game… It is so beautiful, funny, goofy and well-made. Love your video!
0:13 damn foundation pulling a 5000 again
Between this and Skyward Sword, the Wii had a ton of ingenious titles that went relatively unappreciated.
In my opinion, what really messed this game up was actually just having "Paper Mario" in the title, because crazily enough there's actually NO paper aesthetic in the whole game. There's a strong 2D design, of course because 2D to 3D is a theme from the start. But never any paper like the first two games had. In fact, there's a strong "computerized" aesthetic I didn't even think about for the longest time. Maybe if it had been called "Super 2D Mario" or something, it wouldn't be looked down on as "That one Paper Mario sequel".
This is a great point. It's more like "Dimensional Mario" rather than paper. As well, as a fan of Skyward Sword, I couldnt agree more. The Wii has many beloved classics, and games that are heavily underrated.
I almost cried when I saw this for the first time 8:29
Petition to have Dimentio/Super Paper Mario characters in the next Mario Kart
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I am so glad I was recomended this video. It's a very insightful commentary about this game. Great video!
the first glimpse of 'Super Paper Mario' I ever got was a Nintendo Power cover that read 'You Won't Believe What's Coming', and they were *Fucking* right.
SPM grabbed my psyche at age 12, the first video game I ever beat, and I've been gay ever since
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This is a great breakdown of a game that has an amazing story to go through. I tip my hat to you good sir!
Such a comfort video..., nice commentary skills, subscribed! 👏🏻 Super Paper Mario, iconic game, outstanding storytelling
This video randomly recommended, looked through older videos, sees Jedi Outcast and Donkey Kong, immediate subscribe...(also good video in general)
Thank you. I try to cover a good variety of games.
Yesss! One of my favourite games! Glad to see it's still getting love
My favorite paper mario game, and one of my favorite wii games in general. I wish there was a Super Paper Mario 2 for the switch
Excellent breakdown of one of my favourite games of all time!
Really great video. I hope can make something this good for Super Paper Mario someday.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. And I'm sure you can make something even better.
I love this game. It, thousand year door, and super mario RPG are three of my favorite games of all time.
And each could use a sequel.
man this gave me so much nostalgia! it was a hard game in the later levels but it was worth it in the end!
this was an amazing watch, I hope this video gets the appreciation it deserves.
Hope your channel grows from this video!!! I love this!!!
this was the game that for the first time, i really started reading in game dialogue. and my god, was it an experience. i remember eating mcdonald’s right before entering the final level like it was training before a UFC fight.
I love those first few games where you first appreciate the script. Love the impacts those games leave
A great video and analysis of my 2nd favorite video game of all time! Great content, you've earned a new sub!
Love Super Paper Mario to bits, and it's easily the best in the series. Hope to watch more of your content! Thank you for all the hard work you put into this critical video
99th sub, ur so close to 100. Video plays out like the ones made on much larger channels, so its really surprising you're lower down. Hoping this gets views because i love it and can't wait for more. Amazing job 🤍
Hello randomly suggested channel. You are really good. Maybe I am again lucky to see a channel skyrocket?
But about Super Paper Mario: It is really one of the most unique games I have ever played. But tbh, I never really got myself to actually play it through the end, the gameplay has been too annoying for me. Dimensio, MrL and.... Graf Knickwitz(thats his german name) are really interesting characters, going the same direction as Fawful. Really a shame that Intelligent Systems wont make a gamelike this with so much charm and character probably.
brave of you to make a super paper mario video in 2023 despite all the hate it got, also i love the video it brought back so many memories thanks to your logical analysis and love for the game
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your kind words.
have never seen this much praise for super paper mario before, definitely a welcome surprise
It deserves the praise!
Why talk about the whole afterlife sequence without mention the part at the end where Mario fights the equivalent of Satan!?
Wow, this is super underrated!
nah when I was a kid, Mimi was TERRIFYING!
I got it on the wii as a kid, got stuck a lot of times, eventually gave up because I wasn't having much fun
I thought I was getting a turn based game so I was pretty disappointed
but I'm gonna give it another go soon I think
Currently my favorite game of all time, every aspect about it is just great it it’s own way
This game confused me so much when I first played it. Coming from playing the original and TTYD, I was surprised at how different but unique super paper mario was. It is an easy game and yes some parts are extremely tedious (sammer guys I'm looking at you) but this game had a charm and it feels unique compared to all the games in the series. Very well done nintendo
this game was a COMPLETE masterpiece in my opinion
if it wasnt for an emulator i would of never been able to play it
but im glad i did it was well worth it
Sometimes you need to emulate in order to play the best games
MOSTLY predetermined. There are options to reject the preordained path, for non-standard game overs. Which is granted also sort of determined.
Good point!
It's Timpuh-knee, not Tim-Pan-E.
What an amazing video man :)) Makes me really wanna go check out this game for myself sometime loll
dude this brought back memories of me having a MASSIVE crush on dimentio hahah
Dementio is one of the sadest mario charakter ever. This dude lost his dad, mother, sister and even nearly his life.
Well, those are mainly just theories from what most people make up.
And even if he probably has that depressing backstory… he's still super duper evil
@@liannabunny7775 he seems FAR too lucid and deliberate in his choices to be acting on pain either. I think it would be even more interesting to his character if he did have this terrible backstory, throughout which he didn't change at all or care about anything other than his own life
@@liannabunny7775I didn’t even know he had a backstory
(I haven’t played the game, as it isn’t on the switch, but I watch playthroughs and stuff)
OH THE VIEW COUNT WHAT
who let this happen? get this mans vid-to-algorithm resuscitation immediately
I feel like this game was a fever dream! I don't know when I received it and I feel like it been forgotten. But I left a huge impact on me regardless
in all honesty my biggest issue with the game was how easy it was. most of the difficulty came from things being tedious, not from enemies themselves being hard
as someone who absolutely despises turn based mechanics in RPGs, this game was a godsent
You got another sub!
They need to bring this game into the Nintendo Switch
I was today years old when I realized that Queen Jaydes is named after the White Witch from Narnia.
I believe the primary connection is a pun on "Hades" the Greek God of the the Underworld, but... Yes! This is yet another literary connection I didn't consider until now! Great reference!!
There were 2 puzzles that i hated in this game. one in 1-2 where you stand on a blue pad and then press - and 1 and the other i think it was 5-3 where you have to hit coin blocks 20 times in a specific order but that's literally the only downside of this game.