How To Enter Heaven Here & Now | Meister Eckhart

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    • @joecocklin2427
      @joecocklin2427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great Vid. Please do a video on the Tao Te Ching 👌🏻

    • @saddha1
      @saddha1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jesus was only given authority over the heaven (they only had 7 classical heavens) and earth, Mat 28:18)this is NOT Nibbana.
      Dhammapada 178.
      Sole dominion over the earth,
      going to heaven,
      lordship over all worlds:
      the fruit of stream-entry
      excels them.
      So Jesus was talking about mundane heaven and NOT Nibbana! Buddhism has over 29 heavens!!!
      Lord Buddha was a supreme master, Jesus was not.
      People who try to make all religions equal are the greatest fools and are not real seekers.

  • @davidmusser7927
    @davidmusser7927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Dr. David Hawkins taught these same truths.
    No one is doing anything.
    Nothing is happening.
    There is no cause in the world. Each thing is only being what it is.
    Sink down into it. Lay back, and let all things be.
    Love you Doc!

    • @AL_THOMAS_777
      @AL_THOMAS_777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YEAH ! Dave is a true LEGEND ! I own some books of him ! GREAT stuff !

    • @MeisterFF
      @MeisterFF 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Love it! The convergence of the wisdom of Meister Eckhart, Dr Hawkins and Vedanta is breathtaking.

  • @tomjoad8939
    @tomjoad8939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    great video! I see so much of this spiritual materialism today. I'm guilty of it myself. I'm working on meditating everyday to discern who I truly am. To move beyond the ego. To be liberated.

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I know, we all need the reminder to let go from time to time... I'm glad you enjoyed the video and thank you for the continued support!

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Be careful. There is no action that you can perform which will awaken you. It isn't like that.
      If you think meditation will cause you to awaken, you have already missed the point.
      Keep in mind the old Zen (Ch'an) Buddhist story:
      A student was sitting in deep meditation one day, when his master walked past him.
      'What are doing?' asked the master.
      'Sitting in meditation', replied the student.
      'Why?', the master asked.
      'To become enlightened.', replied the student.
      The master sat down and began to rub a broken clay roof tile with his robe.
      'What are doing?', the student asked.
      'Making a mirror.', replied the master.

    • @tomjoad8939
      @tomjoad8939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very good point. Ty:)

    • @billyjames9861
      @billyjames9861 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's some kind of co on or co inn - And Deuter back packs are a German brand - A parasitic feeler eye in the chest, back and head strap super-imposed by a morphic phantom of King Duo David TV (John Carpenter and Sahar Naida) - It eye's up gold, it eye's up women, it eye's up property and it eye's up contemporary vehicles - It is the one who turns your head if you see a pretty women - It also likes nostalgia while listening to music from the past. The nouning and verbing is the orchestrator of the Trinity - Also understood as 'Seti' means "of Set", which indicates that he was consecrated to the god Set (also termed "Sutekh" or "Seth"). As with most pharaohs, Seti had several names. Upon his ascension, he took the prenomen "mn-m3't-r' ", usually vocalized in Egyptian as Menmaatre (Established is the Justice of Re). - Source Wikipedia
      There's nothing out there, it's a mirage supported by those who perpetrates it's lies.
      It may have a real importance to being wrong because it will be right about how wrong it believes you are, so your wondering why your messing things up because then it can be right about how wrong you are.
      But there’s an ideation of an image called selfing - The mental state points to the after as being the before - (Language emphasis there is an us and uses the subjective experience to make an object of ideation IE: Your the all that’s been thinking about)
      But there isn’t a self doing the selfing that implies there’s a self doing it - There’s a mechanical system doing:
      P. Hedderman
      Try and understand the preconditioning and pretext of the world.
      Like if the dinosaurs died millions of years ago, this tells a child that time exists and is real.
      So try and understand the premise of entertainment which is actually a shadow cast morphology:for the preconditioned ego to mimic - Like a kid watching Karate Kid who then goes ono pretend fight people, or like Kurt Russell who war body cams over 40 years ago while rescuing the pre-side--ant (President), in the Movie Escape from New York IE:
      Lets began
      Once drawn in that man’s travels are over.
      You won’t recognise where your here because you believe you can be somewhere else.
      If I thought about it to much I could lose my mind, therefore, I don’t think if that man had been here today.
      I can’t afford enough time that I was sinking, because if this thing had been cleaned we’d be talking six figures.
      We’re open all hours but will be closing soon because the moon is moving away from the earth and 2cm per day.
      You won’t recognise where your here because you believe you can be somewhere else.
      The black prince only makes sense because it is seen against a white background.
      I’m not going to fuss to much about the inside but it’s looking better already.
      It could have been different behind the clock.
      It’s like trying to do a jigsaw when you haven’t got the picture on the box.
      Demons aren’t what you were thinking. I
      f I wanted to go down I couldn’t because I’d already drank to much.
      What’s your looking for ?
      IE: Haven’t we been established, the sanity has replaced the insanity that preceded the first drink They found him last night, I can’t believe it, I thought he was gone forever.
      If they take off in the fog they’ll never land it. And if they try to they’ll crash.
      You think you want freedom, but if you know what freedom means, you will run away from that. The Matt and Satin finish is yet to be de-term-Inn’ed.
      How far into this clock have ever been
      I hadn’t had a drink since then.
      That's Hollywood and the music industry - 'You were supposed to drink the coffee from the cup, not the pot' - Finally you can come back home - Fin All Lie
      The Susan Morphew Case, ‘Nothing is what it seems’
      The brain made you, and your saying you have a brain.
      The character would seek validation to satiate (Say She Ate) the hunger
      -------
      Thus, they believe, once they saw the false you, that that is the authentic you. And not it’s a totally interesting hagstone if the view is looking at the ‘see’ But the authentic was seeing through the false you already. The claiming of that seeing through IE: ‘Oh I’ve seen the false you’, is an aspect of the false you. It’s just the first mechanised reaction it has to getting caught - It has to switch from being looked at to the looker at that one - It does a quick manoeuvrer, and now you start studying the ‘you’, and the ‘you’ - So your seeing the doing, then your seeing the doer - But you are, or there is seeing that you are neither. The body is inside you appearing inside mind - But the myopically bound person via it’s puppeteer is identified with the projection. IE: Seeing that you had a mother came from it and not not you - But the body is not what is conscious. The brain made you and know your the one who has the brain. P. Hedderman
      And the system newt’ers in such a way that, that event will now be an experience that you thinks they had.

  • @danielwales7108
    @danielwales7108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thanks

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your generous support, this means a lot!

  • @heinzgassner1057
    @heinzgassner1057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Baruch Spinoza, often misunderstood as pantheist, explains this so beautifully in his ‘ethics’.

    • @MeisterFF
      @MeisterFF 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Substance of Spinoza, Essence of Eckhart, Brahman of Vedanta....

  • @MsSeb7777
    @MsSeb7777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the great content. Much appreciated

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate the support, my friend!

  • @xtfgrw
    @xtfgrw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "It's the understanding that no one answer can capture the essence."
    You were so close to referencing Tao te Ching chapter 1!

  • @Turo185
    @Turo185 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for the beautiful organ music intro!

  • @jorgeprado928
    @jorgeprado928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    For a while I was seriously consternated about the karma concept as I wondered "If a being is not fully aware or enlightened, then, his actions whether bad or good are not preceded by any real intention, therefore, how can it be punished if he is, in the first place, not guilty of the being he is."
    The idea of anti-karma as a non dual view of reality made sense. Since we cannot manipulate our karma but rather understand its nature, which is not partial nor deterministic, but rather a direct effect of circumstances, we should not attach to the idea of freeing ourselves from kama, but letting karma free ourselves from everything. As Alan Watts pointed out, "Devas are too busy being happy to become enlightened too. (...). By improving yourself, you attach to the cycle of karma with golden chains, by making yourself worse you attach yourself with iron chains; an enlightened being is the one who gets rid of all the chains." And the one and only way to get rid of the chains is to be free from intention, good or bad, pleasant or unpleasant, desirable or despicable.

    • @micmic2575
      @micmic2575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I see this concept time and time again. I do not understand its nature, yet I find myself espousing it in parts. One must do to continue to be as they seem, yet one cannot ever do enough to be.
      One must do in some part to exist as they seem. Can one do without intention? If so, what motivates them? Is it something beyond the individual that motives then?
      Perhaps I ask the wrong questions. What do you think?

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@micmic2575 As so many of the masters have said, ‘Find out who is asking the question. When you do, all other questions will cease.’.

    • @ramanchaudhary2518
      @ramanchaudhary2518 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@micmic2575the body goes about its motion after enlightenment, the door is consciousness itself therefore the body moves with the consciousness before enlightenment and after , the only difference is the witness knows itself and therefore does not falsely associate with the body

    • @micmic2575
      @micmic2575 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ramanchaudhary2518This is certainly part of the truth. This witness realizes that this body is not them, as this body constantly changes and will eventually succumb to the law of entropy, yet the witness will still be.
      I am not certain that the door is consciousness. I think a more precise and paradoxically incorrect answer could be collective consciousness. The sum of all consciousnesses could be referred to as consciousness as you may be referring to. This door must be beyond the witnesses’ idea of their own isolated consciousness. They know this for certain.
      Thank you for your perspective.

    • @FunnyMan-ez9vq
      @FunnyMan-ez9vq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes intention is the key thank you my friend

  • @paul.delasaux
    @paul.delasaux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks!

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your support!

  • @Pete99650
    @Pete99650 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i simply love your videos, great insights and historical context are only few of the things i get by watching them!! Thx for the effort

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate this, thank you for watching!

  • @migol1984
    @migol1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have this sense. Not a theory, but a feeling that all religions were simply a stepping stool into this "I." But then they became religious in nature when we attached all of its treasures within those specific doctrines. When you go into a deep dive of all the more esoteric and mystical teachings, you can almost see the patterns in their purist forms. From sufism to Christianity to Buddhism, you can almost sense its heartbeat speaking through all the teachings. Then it terribly collapses when the adherents claim to be the one true religion where the "I" lives.
    It reminds me of the 2nd commandment and how God rejects any form of image to be worshipped in his place. That's religion. An image of what we think the "I" is and we worship this image.
    Yeshua came as an emblem to dismantle not just religious temples and synagogues, but religion entirely. The book of Hebrews says that he trespassed the heavens once and for all. And then offers us the ability to approach the throne of grace with condidence. Right here and now.
    What i mean to say is that no religion is necessary. No indoctrination. No rituals. Just a willing heart. After all, the apostle Paul himself said that we are the temple where the Spirit of God lives.
    It's a tough pill to swallow for many, even though it's the simplest and purest in its profound nature.

    • @glenswada
      @glenswada 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your view is encompassed in what is called "perennial wisdom". That all religions are just sign posts pointing to the I AM. The greater flock stays at the point post, praising its virtue and truth. Whilst the sparse few that follow the direction of the sign post. Arrive at the destination.

    • @Rhen_Sigwaben
      @Rhen_Sigwaben 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This came to my thought as well, as society seeked too much of the benefits like how meditation is now in the west, some changed not considering the roots of the teaching,

    • @migol1984
      @migol1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@glenswadanever heard of it before. Will look into it

    • @Eugene15636
      @Eugene15636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@migol1984
      Well said. It seems we are rooted to an identity in order to feel secure, but there is no security in life, because all life is in a state of Flux, and whatever you cling to is bound by this same impermanence. For me this is the importance of faith. Faith comes from a Latin word for trust, but its not trust in something changeable, but something eternal, which is the word we use for God.

    • @migol1984
      @migol1984 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Eugene15636 yes indeed. What changes is our understanding of the nature of the eternal. It's too bad that we get stuck on what it is only we understand, and that becomes our god. So you must separate yourself from your God and go further into wherever this faith leads you to discover the eternal. And what you find is really a journey within yourself. As this TH-camr always says, "what you seek is seeking you." It's almost a direct reference to the Psalm that says, "deep calls to the deep at the sound of your waterfalls. All your waves and billows wash over me."
      Considering that I grew up extremely Christian, I still have a myriad of passages from the Old Testament to the New that supports this thought as being a Christian one.
      So it becomes a bit of a dichotomy when one approaches it within their frame of understanding. It's not your frame of understanding that is the God. It's the understanding itself. The understanding is endless. It's the ideas themselves that are your "salvation," if you will, when you come to understand, or become enlightened. But I personally feel that one never ceases to be enlightened. And all the terms used in Buddhism, Christianity, or whatnot, are simply terms we use to identify this eternal understanding.
      Maybe it's a bunch of mumbojumbo. But I promise I try my best to keep things very down to earth. Lol

  • @MinnesotanMysticism
    @MinnesotanMysticism หลายเดือนก่อน

    YES! I’ve been a fan of this channel for a while, found Eckhart around the same time, such good timing to have found this! Love your vids on Buddhism. God bless! 🙏

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, my friend!

    • @MinnesotanMysticism
      @MinnesotanMysticism หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ ey, thank YOU! Call me ignorant but is by far one of the most interesting topics imo, someone was giving me grief in another comment as I was talking about how cool it is that various cultures and spiritual traditions pull from this same metaphysical space even though it’s so unique; monastics, mystics and ascetics find incredible insight. I think you do an awesome job of covering this kinda content and hope you continue to

  • @harrydeanbrown6166
    @harrydeanbrown6166 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet another excellent video by this producer.

  • @timoxyz1466
    @timoxyz1466 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Greeting to all my enlightened brothers, as we are all expressions of Self that is (in) us.

  • @isabeljirash3814
    @isabeljirash3814 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeker to seeker thanks, thanks, videos are EXCELENT you give us so much wisdom

  • @jameslynn3702
    @jameslynn3702 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing this wonderful inspirations. In having Nothing, but giving Thanks for everything, then we can say: "Aloha Paradise"!!!! Grazia, Grazia and Grazia, Ringraziamento Amore Amo!!!

  • @user-qy5je7fr2c
    @user-qy5je7fr2c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, this was very insightful

  • @KosmicKitchen
    @KosmicKitchen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good content, especially considering Eckhart whom I found complicated to read and understand. Thanks for your work, I’ve subscribed.

  • @koanforty
    @koanforty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fabulous presentation on Meister Eckhart’s sermon 22 . Your capacity to recognize the wisdom confirms that you inhabit that same wisdom.❤

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, my friend, I am glad you enjoyed it!

  • @onlymelodic109
    @onlymelodic109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video, great material for deep contemplation!

  • @brunoscuiller818
    @brunoscuiller818 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love your writing, your pace, and your voice. This is my favourite well of wisdom in the whole Internet. I hope this comment will not feed your ego too much ^^
    What you describe in Eckhart's sayings reminds me a lot of the teachings of Krishnamurti, are you familiar ?

  • @Coreypsich
    @Coreypsich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you again for your amazing videos. Your video about the elephants some time ago was one of the most critical points to get me to look at very important things inside myself. I can't stop being thankful for running into your channel. Looking forward to the next video.

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, my friend, this means a lot and I’ll keep giving it my best!

  • @sarahhunter1114
    @sarahhunter1114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic video. Thank you.

  • @ericcricket4877
    @ericcricket4877 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much information and theories arising from a video that is in essence about avoiding all of it. People watch so much and see so little.

  • @ashleystearns2486
    @ashleystearns2486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, Simeon. Thank you so much! And Ivan. I have wanted to hear someone else discuss I AM since my first mystical experience 57 years ago (isn't it curious some Buddhists chant sat nam, or some variation of I AM?). I am so thankful you are doing so for others. These videos are not only beautiful but priceless treasures. 🙏

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the kind words and the continued support! Eckhart’s sermons offer some of the most powerful teachings I’ve come across. I hope I’ll find more opportunities to talk about him in the future :)

  • @tslow1829
    @tslow1829 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grateful Simeon, another excellent piece.🙏

  • @krozal6892
    @krozal6892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was beautiful
    Thank you

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, Chris!

  • @pedroba76
    @pedroba76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video! Such profound ideas;
    The last one , the third kind of spiritual poverty, I admit to not have understood, but "I" find it impressive how so many people and spiritual traditions across the world, have reached similar conclusions about there having an unborn and unchanging essence that is behind everything in this world. It seems Daoists, Neoplatonists, Jews, Hindus, Aristotle and even Buddhists(with Nirvana), as that.

    • @pedroba76
      @pedroba76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "I" "myself"", when I stopped being a Christian during high school at 15 and became like, a deist or such, started developing conceptions/ideas and believing on the existence of such thing.
      That, later, got more developed as I became interested on philosophy in pandemic, and learned, many months later I suppose, about the existence of Taoism, and found that it fit a lot the conceptions of God I had developed.
      Something that is not exactly the God full of cultural influences, human views, biases and moral commandements and objective morality that religions speak of, and doesn't have a human consciouness...
      But like, something like a "Matrix behind the material world, the essence and flow of all things, the order that makes things flow and not turn the universe into a total randomness... The machine of the world, Tao, God, the flow, the essence, the Matrix behind everything". An "uncognisable ultimate reality".
      gave such names. And this thing would not be something that "exists", but rather "is".

    • @pedroba76
      @pedroba76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nowadays I just admit that I don't know if such thing "exists". Atheism never made sense to me,
      but at the same time, lost certainty in the "existence" of such thing.

  • @SteveMayedaTV
    @SteveMayedaTV 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So far my favorite video of yours

  • @Rashba369
    @Rashba369 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video .

  • @colinjohnrudd
    @colinjohnrudd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A beautiful wielding of the Zen stick! x

  • @user-mikatom
    @user-mikatom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thanks for your good videos. Keep it up :)🙏

  • @Hravenkel
    @Hravenkel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Masterful.

    • @evankress8038
      @evankress8038 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't you mean "Meisterful?"

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😄

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your support!

  • @isensiblehumanist993
    @isensiblehumanist993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Ours is an era of a dearth of spirituality. Scattered and fragmented. We are those who aim to form bridges across cultures and forge a path for those who follow. With no confidence in that left before us, we must, without initiation or ritual, be the torch bearers of spiritual light into the next generation. Good will to all who are on this journey. For thine is the kingdom.

    • @ashleystearns2486
      @ashleystearns2486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seek and ye shall find. It's up to others to find what they need, and in that way, G_d works wonders, like Simeon and Ivan sharing their wisdom with us. "All will be well, and all will be well, and all will be well." Hildegaard von Bingen

  • @Cat-uk4do
    @Cat-uk4do 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much 💓

  • @VeronikaLederer
    @VeronikaLederer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you ❤

  • @MikeCrowe-s3l
    @MikeCrowe-s3l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Schrödinger said "The present is the only thing that has no end" that's amazing . Is it also true to say the present moment has no beginning ?

  • @Spaceninja4557
    @Spaceninja4557 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Subscribed

  • @user-qy5je7fr2c
    @user-qy5je7fr2c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was an excellent video

  • @postscript5549
    @postscript5549 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting. Instructive.

  • @patrickm.2155
    @patrickm.2155 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I'm here because I was sitting on the toilet as I read "Empty Yourself" in the thumbnail. I never felt a calling so clear. I've indeed emptied myself now. Thanks a lot.

  • @vertbeke7977
    @vertbeke7977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Informative video ..

  • @emma-tv2pv
    @emma-tv2pv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very instructive and helpful video, 😂 thank you🙏

  • @Allesklar-bc9cg
    @Allesklar-bc9cg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Simeon I lived in Asian countries for so many years and spend to much time in the temples and lived in monasteries of different traditions.
    After watching your videos I understand how little I know.
    Have you ever thought about giving online private classes/consultations? Like a spiritual coaching?
    I would be open to be your guinea pig and pay you well to receive your teaching.

    • @ashleystearns2486
      @ashleystearns2486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know about being anyone's "guinea pig," but in a sense, you already are. We all are. And I don't want to speak for him, but it seems like he's already giving us everything he's got, for which I am so thankful (leave him a tip - that's one way to ensure you get more Simeon). 😊😊😊

    • @Allesklar-bc9cg
      @Allesklar-bc9cg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ashleystearns2486
      I am asking if he would give me a private teaching for good money.
      What’s wrong with that?

  • @synch9295
    @synch9295 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One who seeks knowledge learns something everyday<
    One who seeks the Tao unlearns everything new everyday.
    Less and Less until you arrive at non-action.
    When you arrive at non-action,
    nothing will be left undone.

  • @kevinbyrne3012
    @kevinbyrne3012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've always read 'poor in spirit' to mean humility not lacking in spirituality. The opposite of high in spirits. Someone loud, confident and in a good mood.

    • @davidmusser7927
      @davidmusser7927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good description.

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What’s wrong with being confident and in a good mood

  • @AurelienCarnoy
    @AurelienCarnoy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice. Very nice

  • @FunnyMan-ez9vq
    @FunnyMan-ez9vq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are the best :-)

  • @1stFloorSessions
    @1stFloorSessions 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At certain points i have experienced "the presence" or "the now" not as the only moment in time but more as a place where time is just a concept. My ego didn't seem to like this place and tried to fight it. Things might start to make more and more sense, but i wouldn't know this as a fact, only an interesting thing to lay on the table.

  • @VitomirMilosevic
    @VitomirMilosevic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video.

  • @danielu1763
    @danielu1763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the AI use in your presentation.

  • @Wanderer2035
    @Wanderer2035 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can never get rid of or surrender the ego, it stays with you for eternity. The ego only changes form forever for eternity, but it can never be surrendered or given up. If one somehow fully gave up their ego, they wouldn’t be able to make decisions, because each decision is a desire, thus the ego. You couldn’t decide to breathe, talk, meditate, don’t meditate, do something, don’t do something. Thats just part of it, but already I’m sure you can see it’s completely impossible. Even if you completely stopped your age and you meditated for thousands or millions of years, you would still have an ego, just changed or evolved, but it would still be there. Freewill is a sub category of Ego, and of course your freewill can never be given up. Seeing Ego as bad is the wrong outlook, it’s very necessary for spiritual evolution. If Ego stopped existing then the universe and reality literally would stop evolving, things would become static, you see how impossible that is?

  • @philmcdonald6088
    @philmcdonald6088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    be here now do no harm help others be still close eyes listen to your breathing.

  • @ronaldreeves421
    @ronaldreeves421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once you know the cycle of eternity, you glimpse great power, so many possibilities emotions, sadness, joy and horror. But realize that trying to profit from this is pointless. You can go down these paths but if you are not perfect you can do great evil, if you are perfect you wont bother. This explains so many things in the world, for example why bad things happen and so many innocents suffer.

  • @marcussassan
    @marcussassan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wonderful

  • @AllegraPersephone
    @AllegraPersephone 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think yes we can get lost in ego, we can reach great heights and feel good with ourselves, but that is just another part of the journey to learn from and overcome. Humble yourself before God and He will lift you up.

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But why humble yourself? So God will then lift you up? Surely that’s back to square one. It’s all a paradox and largely bollocks. Let’s just be human with awareness and compassion

    • @AllegraPersephone
      @AllegraPersephone 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GavDuggan1983 Because if we forget to be humble, and think we are everything, and we got to where we are all by ourselves, and we're so great, that's going to lead to a big fall, whatever happens. It's easy for ego to get the better of you. So keep in mind all the help, all the blessings, and know that there is strength and stability in staying humble.

  • @jeffxanders3990
    @jeffxanders3990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All is entertainment in, through, and of Itself in and through us. In the dream of life, there can be only one, and you're It. Let go and allow.

  • @user-qy5je7fr2c
    @user-qy5je7fr2c 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you make a video about anger/social anxiety?

  • @lord_duxzen
    @lord_duxzen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂 this video came right when I needed it!

  • @ronaldreeves421
    @ronaldreeves421 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In eternity, future past present are all the same. In eternity you are anywhere where you want to be, you are here now.

  • @Eugene15636
    @Eugene15636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who or what is the ego, the I that sees or hears? There is no ego, no I that sees, nor hears; there is only seeing and hearing. The thinker can never be separated from their thoughts, the thinker is the thought, the experiencer and what is experienced are one, they can only be separated by thought, and that thought, that idea, that word is I...

    • @k-alphatech3442
      @k-alphatech3442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At every moment there is not someone having an experience, what exists is only the experience, of each moment. Annata.

    • @Eugene15636
      @Eugene15636 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@k-alphatech3442
      Yes indeed, the experience and the experiencer are one. Its eternal being, not becoming. Becoming is in time

  • @JamesGoolsby-p3d
    @JamesGoolsby-p3d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting

  • @f1KING
    @f1KING 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you♡
    🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🍄
    anything is plenty man

  • @justjosh188
    @justjosh188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Moving beyond the ego seems so difficult especially with me just starting college and having so much ego around and in me. I aspire to get there though and not alone but with god.

    • @kadenmetzger3006
      @kadenmetzger3006 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      we must meditate friend

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ego is an essential function of being human. So much ‘spiritual’ nonsence. Lots of egos saying that the ego does not exist etc

  • @saintsword23
    @saintsword23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You've misunderstood Ananda's response in the Kokanuda Sutta. Anāthapindika, foremost among the Buddha's lay followers, expresses a similar view in the Ditthi Sutta (AN 10.93). What he's saying is that views come and go like anything else. They're subject to change and passing away as change is one of the three marks of existence. They have their cause and attachment to them is suffering - just like anything else.
    This is not an exposition on the indefinability of the divine or discarding all views leads to wisdom. The Buddha never said to discard all views. In fact, Right View is one of the parts of the Noble Eightfold Path, and it's not "no view is right view." That's not at all Right View. Right View is to take up the views that lead to disenchantment with the world and eventually Nibbana. It's not about discarding all views (how is that even possible? Wouldn't your view be to discard all views...which is self-contradictory?). The Buddha was pretty straight forward on a lot of subjects and had a definite view on them.
    I think you've misunderstood a lot here, at least from the Buddhist side. I don't know much about Meister Eckhart so I can't comment there.

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fully agreed. Most of this sounds like fundamentalist bullshit to be honest. The relative and the human is totally discarded

  • @bronsonstone725
    @bronsonstone725 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In samadhi you are absorbed into the One, you know nothing, you are fully aware but cannot say, “I am aware of this or that”, that would require discrimination between this and that. In knowing nothing there are no opinions or judgements etc. you are completely equanimous.
    It isn’t until you come out of that state that you can say that you were aware of the aspects of that state.

  • @todorova9920
    @todorova9920 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Върховно ,чудесно би било да се разбере от БЪЛГАРИ , Заслужаваме ,
    Благодаря Ви ❤

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Благодаря ви много! За момента, работата по канала изисква цялото ми време и енергия, но имам предвид субтитрирането на видеата на български език. (Спомням си, че и друг път сте ми го казвала!) Благодаря за позитивните отзиви!

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reflection is both key and lock.
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
    🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
    --Diamond Dragons (series)

  • @SaxonShore
    @SaxonShore 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information? T.S. Eliot

  • @renethomas5757
    @renethomas5757 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If someone stops identifying themself as a thinking body chatting to other thinking bodies, and instead identifies themself as the awareness behind all these bodies, wouldn't that feel very lonely and cold?

    • @ImJustAnOnion
      @ImJustAnOnion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not exactly, because you will be the same universal awareness that is aware of everything and everyone. You would become closer and realize you are one with everyone and everything and separation would fall away as the illusion it is ❤ I hope that helped, have a blessed day and peace be with you friend 😊

    • @LlonirTS
      @LlonirTS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All one or alone. The choice is yours.

    • @ImJustAnOnion
      @ImJustAnOnion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LlonirTS just because you realize all is one doesn't necessarily mean you will never feel alone. You can still be codependent for instance and feel alone when no one's around even if you have realized all is one. I hope that helped, have a good day friend and peace be with you ❤️ 😊

    • @LlonirTS
      @LlonirTS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ImJustAnOnion realize that the feeling of being alone IS the feeling of being all one, because everyone feels it. The feeling of being alone is the doorway to compassion.

    • @ImJustAnOnion
      @ImJustAnOnion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LlonirTS I feel ya but not always. Have a good day and keep doing you ❤️

  • @tjentalman
    @tjentalman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the observer is the observed
    please do a j krishnamurti video

  • @NancyRode-u9i
    @NancyRode-u9i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏 still point

  • @skiq2520
    @skiq2520 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ramana maharshi video pls 😍

  • @hrithikkamble2087
    @hrithikkamble2087 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given a hypothetical situation where one manages to destroy all conscious beings, then how does any of these make any sense?

  • @danielwales7108
    @danielwales7108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear.😊

  • @Laggie74
    @Laggie74 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taoist WuWei has the same concept. Action without attachment to the past or future results.

  • @David-cz5to
    @David-cz5to 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know someone is taking your videos and your hard work and repackaging your essays using a ai voice to make videos? Anyways your essays are masterpieces. great work! 🎉

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Really? Do you mean a specific channel? And thank you!

    • @David-cz5to
      @David-cz5to 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seeker2seeker yes sir the one I saw was the channel: Maya wisdom. They aren’t big but I see the subject matter and images they use are almost identical to yours.

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I just saw... what a shame. Hopefully, people will tell apart the original.

  • @sedavlos
    @sedavlos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💪❣

  • @CrustyQtip
    @CrustyQtip 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leister eckhart achieved the jhana of infinite consciousness?

  • @barrycolston9026
    @barrycolston9026 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is your nature without thought, sound, or identity? What is your true nature? A nature free from cultural influence. Every day we enter the world and our true nature is weighted down by the responsibilities and expectations of life.

  • @waika3684
    @waika3684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i still dont understand mechanism of duality to three principles, three principles are the beginning of chaos or this suffering of lost.

    • @waika3684
      @waika3684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there is god force to push and pull from simple to complex and complex to simple, holos to holos like seeker game, god fools himself

    • @waika3684
      @waika3684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sometimes i feel everyday are the same road, but small difference. Then it jump to another road and so on... This limitation is a miracle

  • @SolveEtCoagula93
    @SolveEtCoagula93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    'Those who seek ways to find God, will find the ways and lose God' - M Eckhart.
    This video is SO profound and so painful. If we are honest, how may of us trying are 'poor in spirit'. Do we not try to awaken because it will be 'nice' for us? Do we say our prayers because we believe it is the way into Heaven?
    I fully acknowledge that I started my own journey with purely selfish motivations - 'I' wanted to become enlightened. With such a motivation, I was doomed to fail. That very quest had already caused me to miss the target. (The Greek word for 'sin' - harmartia - actually means, 'to miss the target'). It has been a hard 50 years but slowly, very slowly, I begin to see the effect my ego has played in causing me to walk a path that doesn't exit. Clearly I cannot elaborate on this.
    To me, this is the meaning behind the crucifixion. This is symbolic of genuinely surrendering the human 'self' and so 'awakening' to Truth. So, whether the crucifixion happened or not is irrelevant - it shows us all what we must, somehow, 'achieve'. (Words are such a problem in a topic such as this.)
    I thank you so much for creating this video - thus allowing the wisdom of Eckhart to inspire me yet again.
    🙏🌼

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is all really a paradox. If you try to do it, then you can’t do it. And who says we should? Let’s just be human. Humans with awareness and compassion.

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GavDuggan1983 That does not work though! As a Sufi teacher once remarked, we are like moths circling the candle flame. Inexorably drawn by the very cause of our own destruction. Yes, it’s a paradox, and one which will destroy us - but we can no more let it go than moth will forget it’s fascination.

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GavDuggan1983 Also, if all the great teachers and masters had taken your approach, we would have no teachings, no paths, no inspirations, and no guidance.
      No matter how paradoxical, how difficult, how (seemingly) hopeless, some of us must keep trying.

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SolveEtCoagula93 I’m not against teachings. I’m against the argument that there’s nothing we can do etc. and that all desires and intention is wrong etc. I have had real spiritual shifts in my life but I don’t think they would have happened if I didn’t follow a sincere interest in it and to practice meditation etc. I find a lot of the non dual teaching quite fundamentalist, limited and just not very helpful at all.

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GavDuggan1983 Ah, I see. I did not get an impression of such an attitude from your first post. But, I certainly see what you mean - and, to some extent, agree with you.
      I would just say two things - both of which you are probably aware of, so please forgive me.
      Firstly, there is a huge danger in overthinking all of this stuff. This is where a good teacher comes into play. My own Zen teacher would rarely answer any of my direct questions. Usually he would wave me away and tell me to just get on with the sitting. After a few years, I finally realised the wisdom of this. From this training I learnt the value of simplicity. The more basic a practise is the better and, to some extent, the easier it is to follow. Consider Buddha's advice on the best meditation practise - breathing (Anapanasati). What can be simpler and yet SO profound? Or Maharishi's, 'What am I?'. Just two examples of practise which contain all you need.
      Secondly, the longer you practise, the more you will drop any idea of trying to achieve something. When this happens - and it does - you begin to truly practise. Have no goals, no ambition, forget all about awakening. Just practise.
      I know that you know all the above, but discipline is perhaps more important now than ever. The internet is full of side show distractions. They are more glamorous and come in more varieties than ever. Ignore them - keep it simple.
      Walk gently my friend but do keep walking (I know you will - you have no choice.). Take care.

  • @SolveEtCoagula93
    @SolveEtCoagula93 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could I ask why you are showing a portrait of Fra Teodoro of Urbino in this video? I know this is often shown as being an image of Meister Eckhart, but, in fact, it is nothing like him.
    There is a postmortem image of Meister Eckhart on 'his' Wiki page - and you will see that the real image of Eckhart is nothing like that of Fra Teodoro.

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I didn't realize I had made this mistake, my friend, thank you for pointing it out! I wonder why this portrait of Fra Teodoro appears everywhere as a representation of Eckhart...?

    • @SolveEtCoagula93
      @SolveEtCoagula93 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@seeker2seeker It is strange. I cannot find any reference as to why this image has become associated with Eckhart. It is both extremely common, and I find it surprising how few people, including academics, actually know it's wrong.
      In one sense it doesn't really matter of course but considering how dour the image of Fra Teodoro appears (which apparently was a deliberate decision on behalf of the artist), against the more accurate image of Meister Eckhart I guess I feel he is being let down by being so misrepresented.

  • @tymer9
    @tymer9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏

  • @maschatolstoi6401
    @maschatolstoi6401 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wahrscheinlich bin ich kurz vor Nirvana😂. Danke, jetzt versteh ich Meister Eckhardt besser.

  • @ShareeMonique
    @ShareeMonique 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Him not using AI is something he has to choose for himself. don’t push your beliefs on him. letting your ego be trigger by his choices might be something you need to work on.

  • @hangingthief71
    @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When he talks of an 'eternal presence', what is really being talked about is an absence, nothing, or at least no thing if not nothing, it is the place where the imperceptible is perceived, nowhere, forget all this I am nonsense God is spewing, that is just a distraction to hide nothing from us.
    Deleuze and Guattari treatment of this in A Thousand Plateaus is something to admire. Terrance Deacon wrote a less fun book about it speaking in scientific terms, incomplete nature.

    • @hangingthief71
      @hangingthief71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When they say let go of our desires and etc, the priests betray desire in favor of the beneficent God they fabricated to interpret the prophet's nonsense, unlike the priest, the prophet interprets nothing.
      In truth, there is nothing to let go of, so you are free to want what you want, becoming whatever into eternity.
      The real man is left in a position of betraying everything and everyone by understanding nothing, he gets to burn in the eternal jouissance of hell. which is better than the divine judgement (death is the only judgement) madness trauma and impotence the Kingdom of Heaven's subjects must endure, you would know had you ever been chained to a cloud.

    • @GavDuggan1983
      @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bla bla bla

  • @malaselvarajah5398
    @malaselvarajah5398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @abel.cecchi
    @abel.cecchi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    love your videos but find real art and dont use ai! it looks cool but im sure there's an artist out there who can do what you're looking for and keep it human

    • @AmandaCan
      @AmandaCan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Agreed!!!

    • @LukasOfTheLight
      @LukasOfTheLight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AI is human. Just plagiarised human art mixed up by an idiot robot.

  • @GavDuggan1983
    @GavDuggan1983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ghosts do not exist said the ghost. This sums up 99% of comments on spiritual videos and forums in my opinion. Egos condemning and even denying the existence of Ego. So bizarre

  • @MrJamesdryable
    @MrJamesdryable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sound like Rick Diaz.

  • @pentatonic145
    @pentatonic145 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is One Book and only One Book by which we must be saved - written by the most knowledgeable man of all time. And his name is… ICCULUS
    All of us should read the Helping Friendly Book - we must all read Icculus
    Our children are old enough to read Icculus.

  • @saddha1
    @saddha1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Jesus “claim” was that he was given authority over the heaven (they only had 7 classical heavens) and earth, Mat 28:18)this is NOT Nibbana.
    Dhammapada 178.
    Sole dominion over the earth,
    going to heaven,
    lordship over all worlds:
    the fruit of stream-entry
    excels them.
    So Jesus was talking about mundane heaven and NOT Nibbana! Buddhism has over 29 heavens!!!
    Lord Buddha was a supreme master, Jesus was not.
    People who try to make all religions equal are the greatest fools and are not real seekers.

  • @nobreveren5264
    @nobreveren5264 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Reject the simple notion of being rather than becoming, of essence rather than creation, of creating dualities between the two... or of creating a narrative about "being" than point out how it is "obvious" when that itself is a view-point, a spiritual fantasy turned into a personal subjective experienced and then deceiving yourself into considering it not as such.
    something about it feels absolutely not right to me and doesn't sit well with my heart, spiritual fantasies are just as dangerous as materialism and religious fundamentalism.

  • @OsheaDebardelaben
    @OsheaDebardelaben 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    88:16

  • @kathleenmacfarland1817
    @kathleenmacfarland1817 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus said “Know Thyself”!
    Jesus said “Seek ye First the Kingdom of Heaven!
    Jesus said, “The Kingdom of Heaven is within”!

  • @michaelc1280
    @michaelc1280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your content but the ad content detracts from the message, makes it seem a bit disingenuous.

    • @seeker2seeker
      @seeker2seeker  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, my friend. I’m still figuring out how to sustain myself and the channel without ruining the experience with commercials…

  • @whataway8180
    @whataway8180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But do u believe in free will?

  • @luiginoto3352
    @luiginoto3352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the point of creating this illusion that must be let go of? God is bored?