Of course LeBron is to blame... HE got rid of all lakers youth to put together a team that is old and injury prone... You need youth to defend, you need youth for a bench, you need youth for durability... LeBron said he didn't want to rebuild or wait until... Ball, Ingram, Kuzz... Caruso... Had LeBrom waited it out, kept the youth they had... Added a Howard and Aldridge and waited for free agency, they would be perennial favorites for years to come
Lol 😂, WTF did you expect LBJ to say ? « You’re right, we’re weak » ? Come on man, if you’re a hater, admit it, if you like Bayless, admit it. It’s ok 👌🏾….
The fact that people even weeks ago were still thinking the Lakers would gonna be able to beat anybody in a play-in tournament is insane. This team has BEEN cooked
"Lebron gets critiqued the most when they lose" bruh Lebron gets 100% of the credit when they win. It's only right he gets 100% of the blame when he loses
100% of the blame? Russell Westbrook got about 75% of the blame over the course of the season himself. Not saying it wasn't deserved at times, man is a turnover machine, but Lebron is the leader of this team and helped put it together, not Westbrook. I think him finally getting his share of the blame is long overdue.
@@omarthescriblomale8279 You’re right but per LeBron, we all want to “Keep the same energy” so when his team as been failing more than succeeding this year, we’ll play devil’s advocate
AD has played 76 regular season games in 2 seasons and isnt the dominant force he once was, Im not sure what everyone expects of this team if AD is not on the court
@@sirebah8281 you sound dumb asf just bc he believed in his team don't mean he need to humble himself you ain't no real Lebron fan we'll see who has the last laugh
Pelinka: “You can say this room has the greatest basketball talent assembled in recent times” Bron: “it was exciting helping put this team together, i watch enough basketball to know what I need to do to help the club depending on the acquisitions we make per year” No excuses we keeping the same energy too💀💀💀
@@donkeydarko77 uhm it wasn't said yesterday ..so for him to comment it quote by quote when he don't even like Lebron is funny y'all nd you commenting putting your two sense in as if I didn't know that makes y'all look stupid
You can’t hype him up for his performance at 37 then use that as an excuse when he fails. If he’s playing at an mvp level I don’t want to hear any he’s old excuses.
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 I’m saying if he’s playing like an MVP, why mention his age? They use his age to prop him up then turn around and use it to cut him slack. You can’t have both. If he’s averaging 30 then clearly age isn’t affecting him so I don’t want excuses when he slacks in other areas.
@@richardwestfield9874 Naw actually he didn’t. His defense this year was atrocious. I’m not giving you credit for averaging 30 when you turned around on defense gave up 25-30 points a game as well. If you average 30 and give up 30 what did you really accomplish?
@@jbond9637 That’s the thing. He’s playing above expectations for someone his age, but at the end of the day in order to win you need to have pieces who are capable of contributing consistently. You weirdos have to think realistically, he’s not iron man he can do every god damn thing on the court cus if that’s the case tf he has teammates for
I agree with Skip here. When LeBron first came to LA, he said he invited Magic Johnson over to his house to discuss the roster. He definitely has a big hand in the roster.
Shannon truly became the “blind witness” Skip calls his supporters. No one cares about the bubble championship, that was 2020 and has nothing to do with 2022. LeBron built this team and deserves most of the blame for the Lakers missing the playoffs.
You know people are salty when they bring up how the lakers won a Mickey championship when their team was competing for that same championship and still lost💀💀
No it contradicts lebron haters by showing how they put all the blame on lebron for lakers roster this year but don’t give him all the credit for the roster that won the ring in 2020
It’s also about HOW the Lakers lost so many of their games: little to no defense, blowing leads late, falling behind early and never catching up. Those aren’t just basketball issues, they’re effort issues. A lot of that comes down to the kind of example your best player sets. He doesn’t deserve much blame as a player but, as a leader, a lot of this falls on him.
Also just plain old being Old and not caring as much....some of Westbrooks play wasn't just “In A Slump" basketball ...it was headscratchingly awful. Like if you brought a chick to a game that don't know much she would never in a million years believe he was a former MVP...padded triple doubles or not
I'm sorry but effort is how much you want it as a individual. You can try and blame it on LeBron if you want but I'd ask by your example why did the Lakers have players with Kobe that gave little effort.
@@theonemvp5599 I’d say that when the Lakers were bad during Kobe’s tenure it was more the result of lack of talent than lack of effort. A ton of guys who no one expected much from, playing down to expectations. I’d say the same thing about the super young Lakers during Bron’s first season in LA. They played hard, just weren’t very good yet. The same can’t be said about this year’s squad.
@@jerelmerrill7100 yeah exactly...Kobe did the opposite of what Brady's doing at the end of his career...he made them pay him superMax when bc of the Championship contracts from a few years before they had to build thru the draft bc they had no salary..after he won the last 2 Kobe didn't really care that much about putting another team together
That’s exactly what I said about Curry. I don’t care how many times he’s averaged 30. In any season he’s always a complete liability on defense At least bron gets an age excuse since he was a monster defender in his prime But a player like Curry never plays any defense, so whenever they lose it’s because he gives up so many points Difference is, he’s surrounded by a dpoy who picks up all his defensive slack and laziness. Lebron isn’t blessed with that same amount of help‼️
Ask them to name one player whose game was elevated as a result of playing with Lebron James... And I mean sustained elevation. Players either became a shell of themselves or they were already great and didn't need his help.
That’s what I said about both Kobe’s failed super team First with Shaq, Malone, and Payton And 2nd with nash and Howard It was all his fault because he’s the leader
plenty of athletes have done that lmaoo did you actually think before this????? i think lebron deserves the blame for this season’s shortcomings, but theres no way you actually think no other athlete has done that
He didn't call himself that. He was in high-school at the time. That was a Sports Illustrated marketing tool for magazine when he was on cover at the time. (Read the article. Its pretty spot on.) Choosen one to replace jordan as the next great basketball player. And Sports Illustrated was right. Lebron is the only one in the convo.
He’s not an iconic Laker and he shares the blame of this season’s demise but I wouldn’t go that far to question his legacy and contribution to the game of basketball based on this shortcoming.
Well damn unlike like kobe and Magic, he's not ever going to play the same amount of seasons with LA as they did, plus he's way past his prime going in while they both were in their prime. That's such a bogus comparison given that fact alone
Billie I agree. This season doesn't take away from LeBron's legacy of being the second best player of all time. What it DOES do is put the exclamation point on **Bubble Chip!!
True. He is past his prime still putting up 30. His defense has been deteriorating for years. I just laugh at Skip going at LeBron but tries to put a positive spin on Baker Mayfield.
I have rarely heard lebron get the lions share of the blame. This entire season and previous seasons when things go right it’s always “ look how lebron carries his team and makes the player around him better”. When things go bad it’s “ look what he had to work with” he has always gotten the lions share of the credit for the four championship or going to 10 finals like he did it all by himself, but doesn’t deserve the lions share of the blame when things crumble?
Shannon: "let's blame the front office" Also Shannon: "who's responsible for AD and Rondo getting there" Shannon basically admitted that Lebron is the GM and constructed this roster along with Rob Pelinka
I would agree but it's not like they haven't said no to lebron before like when they hired Vogel instead of Ty Lue who bron wanted. Clearly the front office can say no to lebron.
Why is it such a problem for a GM to ask their all time great player "what kind of players do you want to be surrounded with, what players do you think will work well with you" I don't get it
@@3nim3nimabl3 he’s basically exposing Shannon’s hypocrisy here. Shannon gives Lebron credit when the roster is good but when the rosters bad he wants to blame the front office.
@@xLaMarquis309 Lebron helping to bring along 3 out of 20 players on the roster since joining the team is not grounds to say he’s in control of the roster construction, yall just go out of your way to detract. There’s so many logical negative things to point out about Lebron but y’all literally make up narratives beyond his already set negatives to try and pile on. It’s stupid..
The fact Lebron wanted Demar and the front office denied that option just proves the opposite. You really think Lebron would pick RUSS over demar? Lmaoo that’s something a trash gm like mj would do
LeBron has been stat padding all season. While being a bum on the defensive end. Add that to his LeGM role, and he plays a heavy part in this disastrous season.
I don’t want to hear about “hes 37” or injuries, or whatever other excuses if hes 37 why do they hype him up that he was leading the league in scoring at the age of 37, everyone talks about “he has the greatest longevity ever” but cant make the play in with ad, russ, Melo, and Dwight? Clippers aren’t making any excuses with their two best players playing less games combined than ad has, enough is enough I’m definitely keeping that same energy because the fact that this team will have less wins than a 38/39 yr old mj on the wizards with kwame brown is beyond pathetic and has to go down as the biggest flop ever in Nba history
@@baseebird If you read I added enough context bc ad played more games than kawhi and pg did combined this season and they have a better record with Reggie Jackson? Enough with the excuses
2017, Krause spoke about his undisclosed working relationship with MJ. “I’ll say this about him, he never came to me and asked for other players. He never came to me and asked me to draft a player. He never came to me to ask me to trade for a player. Never once did that happen.”
That’s literally cap lol. In the last dance they said mj tried to recruit players by Krause denied him because they were horrible options Years later we see how trash he is as a gm💀
Bronsexuals blaming injuries as an excuse.. Nuggets had Jokic w/o two max players.. Warriors with Steph, Klay, or Dray gone for most of the yr.. Clips w/o PG or Kawhi.. Memphis w/o Ja.. Dallas w/o Luka for 17 games. Why do they got a better record than the Lakers?
because every team you mentioned has other role players who are young, play hard, and do their jobs. Lakers have a bunch of old geezers who play ZERO defense and are all one one year minimum contracts 🤣🤣
@@aliasfitness6684 and whose fault is that for giving up all of their young talent and picks for a bunch of veterans? LeGM James. He is a repeated offender of this. This happened with the Cavs.
@@Invictus-Solaris i didn’t say it was or wasn’t his fault. i all i did was state the facts. i’m well aware he probably had a big part in putting the team together but that doesn’t change the fact that their team has been hurt, and they’re old geezers who play no defense.
@@Invictus-Solaris he didn’t ask who’s fault is was. he asked why the Lakers don’t have a record similar to other injured teams and i gave him an answer to his question.
Crazy cuz I’ve seen fans of all those teams use injuries as an excuse💀💀 Nuggets get swept last year: JaMaL WaS InJurEd Warriors miss the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row: KLaY WaS InjureD Clippers choke in the playoffs: KaWhi WaS InjURed Etc🤣
Just going to put this out there: Kobe Bryant, on what turned out to be his final great year (thanks to that injury), carried a poorly-fit Lakers team of aging players (Gasol, Nash, Jamison, World Peace) and a just-past-his-peak-perennial All-Star with chemistry issues (Howard) to the 7th seed, an outright playoff team in the West. LeBron James, with legitimately comparable circumstances, could not even lift his team (that he had a bigger role in constructing, with a higher scoring average) into the freaking play-in. Along with other strong arguments I've got, don't ever tell me again that James is a greater player than Bryant ever was. Just facts. Plain and simple.
@@MrShymon3y AD missed 40 games, Westbrook has played horribly most the season, Melo and Dwight are washed who cares if they are HOF’s, what are they producing right now this season lol
@@MrShymon3y kobe never gets credit for making his teammates better. after losing to the celtics 08 he knew the team had to be tougher he challenged them the whole year and turned gasol from being soft to holding his own against KG. Kobe was unstoppable offensively but he could also do many things. i hate people painting narratives, they lack context and are short sighted .
I miss Kobe SO MUCH😩 I miss being 17-65 in his 19th season I miss his failed super team with nash and Howard I miss missing the playoffs for 8 straight years😪‼️
False, he is the leader and therefore was responsible for being the best performer and most consistent player...which he achieved with flying colours. This doesn't mean he's the person to take on all the blame for his team's lackluster season. Being a leader and being responsible for failure are not synonymous.
As a LeBron fan, I give him somewhere in the 70% range of blame. He is culpable in the roster being assembled, regardless of who he wanted or didn't want, and their disgraceful performance this season. Injuries, coaching, the inconsistency of the role players, he couldn't do much for that. But you can't criticize the front office or their construction of the roster without mentioning him. He does not and should not get to escape that.
70% of the blame is flat out stupidity. I’d say 25% max for requesting Westbrook but the front office has the last say and have told him no before so why not tell him no for this? Why did they choose to be cheap instead of retaining Caruso? Frank Vogel’s lineups, rotations and lack of galvanizing this team has been horrible. AD missing half the season is Lebron’s fault? Westbrook shooting under 40% for 2 months was Lebron’s fault? Lool cmon bro that’s asinine.
The conditions were the same for everyone it’s not the Lakers fault they did their job and others didn’t. And this isn’t even the same roster from that championship season
In all honesty the show is gonna be good for the nba playoffs because the lakers are out and we see that these two are actually good analysts but they gone slide lebron in anyway😂😂😂😂
This is all Lebrons fault for having this massive ego and thinking he’s a good GM and handpicking these players one by one . He deserves missing out on the playoffs . Just sayin , Jordan could never 🤷♂️
Well Jordan literally drafted Kwame Brown, so I don’t want to ever hear “Jordan would never” after someone calls Lebron a bad GM. Gm work doesn’t matter when assessing a basketball player , it’s about how they play basketball and their performance, and I don’t understand why people don’t get this
If the absence of Anthony Davis for a significant number of games this season turns the Lakers from the Western (odds on) favorite to a non-play-in tournament, then perhaps we should not be crediting Lebron so much with the success (when it has happened). Seems to me that AD deserves more of that credit --- though LBJ does deserve his fair share
ALL YEAR we heard "we've never seen a 37 year old play this great" Missed the playoffs with 4 top 75 players on his roster and another HOFer This is 2011 part TWO levels of bad and this is NOW on ""GOAT James" resume 😭
It’s a team game lebron was still elite individually big difference compared to 2011 when he played individually terrible and lost his team the series you can get on lebron for the roster but for not his play
@@baseebird let's talk about his elite defense that helped opponents outscore them while he's on the court LeBron probably has the WORST plus minus in his career & y'all still trying to say he played great
Mj was 1-9 without pippen in the first round Without pippen he’d have ZERO RINGS, ZERO FMVPS, ZERO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL He’s not even deserving of top 75‼️
Watch the Suns, Grizzlies, Mavs, 76ers, Bucks perhaps Nets all have exciting and thrilling runs and this cast will find a way to talk about Lebron and the Lakers during the playoffs :/
As a LeBron fan, he deserves the same amount of blame, as what he gets credited for, when they win. You can tell all the Jordan Stans and LBJ haters been waiting for this episode all year 😂
Honestly, I just watch this show for Shannon and Skip's unlikely friendship. You can tell these guys just love working together and getting under each other's skin.
"He makes his teammates better" no longer works as a narrative. Stat-padding is not a very complicated skill, you have advantages in a competition, you pass the ball so your teammates gain some confidence to build upon as the season progress. If you play a better team, assert your dominance while keeping your teammates involve, that is leadership. But we see a different pattern all throughout, he sat out when competition is hard and play when it was easy and at the same time looking to score, this is demoralizing to his teammates and the fruits showed.
He’s 100% guilty. He pushed to get Westbrook to LA. Every “roster wise” decision is accepted by that loser, and that’s on him! No playoffs, great job L-Bron!
even the second greatest couldnt do it. with his own team, the team he built and the team he had so much confidence in before the season 😭. shannon jus gotta take his L
Westbrook's PER so far (for 78 games) is 15.06. That stat is adjusted to always be 15 for the average league player. So Westbrook played no better than an average player, while getting a super-max contract that cost the team their shooting, depth, and defenders. That is a huge negative value for the team.
the front office is the reason. street clothes davis is the reason. they’ll blame lebron and fire Frank Vogel as usual. end of discussion. this team was already done 2 to 3 months ago. let’s talk about the team that beat them that’s top of the west by 5+ games.
Lmao they never blame lebron wtf you talking about..lebron gets away with everything and lebron gets the squad traded and coaches fire so you lebron fan boys need to just shut up
Shannon, you get way too emotional when defending Lebron. It's not that Rich Paul cant have clients but Lebron. James stuck his neck out for this dude and said he was untradable and the guy was bust Then Lebron had the chance to get Demar but chose to get Russ instead. Time and time again Shannon you have stated this is a superstar driven league and they make the ultimate decision so we all know Lebron did when it came to this roster. It finally caught up with him and now the Lakers are going to be sitting at home watching the playoffs.
This was the 4th time LeBron has missed the playoffs. Not something he would want on his resume. The whole “He makes everyone around him better” banter should never be brought up again. Three great players have now played worse with LeBron than without him (Bosh, Love and Westbrook).
I’m not choosing sides here, I personally do not care about the Lakers at all. However just based on what I have seen this season it is very hard for me to agree with Shannon about LeBron being the goat. Or MVP for that matter. I played sports for a very very long time when I was younger and walking out of the arena consistently when your team fails is nothing of a goat status. That’s a crybaby status. There is so much more to being the greatest player ever than scoring 40 points a game. This lakers team was the biggest failure ever in the history of the NBA. That being said, I do feel like skip Bayless over exaggerates a lot. I was around when Jordan played and I’m around now, putting LeBron James’s name in the same sentence as Michael Jordans is blasphemous. These two men are not the same at all. Lebron is a whole tier below. Frank wasn’t the issue. As far as coaching. LeBron put his general manager shoes on and just completely destroyed their defense by ripping away Carouso, rondo, Kuzma, Casey P, JaVale McGee. For what? For a bunch of 30+ old dudes who don’t know how to play defense. Including you LeBron.
Lebron deserves a lot of blame. AD is not a point guard.. he doesn’t decide when he gets the ball. Lakers won when lebron averaged 10 assists. This season lebron took the second most field goal attempts he’s ever taken in his career. When lebron is not playing AD and Westrbook plays better. All he’s been doing for the last few months is chase Kareem.
If Lebron wants to be in the GOAT conversation, then he needs to be measured against Kobe and Jordan. Kobe and Jordan were cold-blooded killers. Lebron has shown flashes of that. But not enough to be considered #1.
Kobe and Jordan weren’t killing nothing in year 19 and at 37 years old. And lebron in his prime has many times shown he can dominate the opposing team. Lebron haters are just describing lebron entire career based on only this season
@@jamarwilliams5070 not a Lebron hater. Im a Heat fan who's also old enough to watch entire careers of all 3 players. I watched, in person, Jordan drop 50 pts when he was 40 years old during his stint in Washington and when he killed the Celtics and Larry Bird when he was a rookie. He looked pretty dominant then. Lebron was never as clutch as either Jordan or Kobe. He's definitely dominant. That's why he's in the conversation. But, he's never been the most clutch player ever.
@@trufan7358 based on what you said you’re are either lying or you’re suffering from amnesia. Lebron many times has been both dominant and clutch taking over whole 4th quarters, locking down offensive stars and hitting big time shots. He definitely has been as clutch as MJ and Kobe
Imagine defending like that a clown that is more preoccupied on looking good on front court that bringing his team to the playoffs . That summons up the hige difference between real goats like Mj and Kobe and that clown 🤡 .
the bubble is like a strike-shortened season with replacement players in MLB-how many top tier players opted out, and Miami was decimated-they were 500 when healthy. it's amazing how the defense is never mentioned when speaking about this team, LeBron, aka, "transition D is not my forte."
It was Bazemor for me at the beginning of the season that was my sign that this season wasn't going to work. Although the 2020 season was short, it was LeBron and ADs best start of their 3 years.
5 top 75 players on the team. You didn't make the playoffs? No one's going to be accountable? You give him all the credit. When they win. He deserves the blame. When they lose. Y'all LeBron sympathizers! Give me a headache!
Lebron brought this energy upon himself when he declared himself the GOAT. He’s not, but claiming so has brought on the comparisons. Had he remained humble, with enough time and the right support he’d have a better argument.
@@aligreaper1941 MJ didn’t call himself that, Larry Bird said he was like god in tennis shoes. People started calling him Black Jesus after that… a derivative of his original nickname, Black Cat!
@@bzso9603 lmao so confidently incorrect, mj is on record calling himself black jesus, so tell me again what’s worse, calling yourself a literal messiah, or having confidence and calling yourself the goat
Just happy all the buddy-buddy players are losing this season. Finally we gonna get two straight months of no Lakers coverage. Hopefully Nets follow up
Yea there are tons of plays where Lebron just walks around in defense. Sometimes he doesn't even come back to defense even when jogging back to defense was enough. The worst part is that Lebron snaps at teammates for not hustling. He also likes to turn the blame to rookies or players who are not veterans even when it wasn't their fault. He is a hypocrite and not a leader.
@@abouttime2569 like punching weak teammates in the face? thats quality leadership right? but being afraid to hold a 7 footer to the same standard is the bar for excellence
Shannon brags about Lebron being 37 and averaging 30 points as if it's unbelievable. Then the Lakers lose and Shannon goes with, 'He's 37, he can't put this team on his back'. So which is it? *Is Lebron 37 and fantastic* or *is he 37 and can't carry a team at his age?* Notice Shannon won't address Lebron's *leadership* and him *quitting* on his team.
If the Lakers want to save their future quickly they should part with LeBron and AD asap. Otherwise this is how they'll play as long as LeBron and AD are there. They're not a playoff team no matter who they get around them.
Of course the blame has to be put on LBJ. He has to be held accountable. Missing games when his teammates need him. Remember in 2012-2013 season Kobe guaranteed the Lakers would make the playoffs and what did he do took over the whole second half of the season that year, unfortunately he tore his Achilles but they still made the playoffs.
Lebron is definitely responsible for a good amount of the blame and I’m a Lebron Fan. His leadership as the years have gone on has really been in question. Just in how he handles things when they DONT go his way. As a leadership development coach it’s grinds my gears when he takes all the credit but not any of the blame. Plus his effort on defense was nasty and inspired no one else to step up. I blame the laker office annnnd the legends on the team you guys KNOW what to do! DO IT! You wanna ring when it counts get it! I’m very disappointed in Melo. I’m disappointed in DWIGHT! I’m disgusted by AD being so fragile! All this was trash! No HEART! Lebron knows better than this! Westbrick was Absolutely garbage all year! The whole thing was trash and it unfortunately has to go on Lebron’s legacy. Please let us no longer compare Jordan and Lebron for the number one spot. MJ #1 Lebron is number 3!
LeBron is 2, and why should this count on his legacy when he has nothing else to prove? I’m sorry but 10% of the blame on him is fair because the front office has the last say, not him
shannon always hitting kobe for missing the playoffs after shaq left. the lakers were in a rebuilding process and kobe had to play with smush parker and kwame brown, kobe got injured and missed a lot of games and as a result they missed the playoffs. Now lebron missed the playoffs and he making lame excuses. He got AD and Russ he has better situation to make the playoffs 😂
I know most people would dismiss this. I’ve coached LeBron from his early years. He was the nicest kid that every kid on the squad gyrated around him. I watched him become one the worst persons you wanted to be around. I believe some of these players are seeing what I’ve noticed about this young man. And is not playing to their potential. Please look at all these players that has joined teams with LeBron and watch how their play shrank. Then they go to another team and play out their minds. I call it the LeBron Effect. His attitude can easily rub you the wrong way. It’s the one thing about him I can’t stand. His head is huge. One day I ran into him, excited to see him and he intentionally ignored me. I’m still proud of his accomplishment, but that one aspect is enough to stand back and make you wonder about this younger teammates. I think his style is rubbing teammates the wrong way, including AD. My opinion. We’re from Akron and that’s our boy, good or bad!
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How... James H.. Leads the Ball... Be Like Lebron...
Embiid.. Standing at Paint. Justblike
AD..
Similarity... Except.. WB Runs more Like James H.
What can they do during the off season to fix this ?
The Team.. Has to Let Lebron and AD Recover...
The Team to Take Lakers to the Championship....
Hey Undisputed! Yall need to put together a full season recap of Russ blooper reels and upload on YT 🤣😂🤣😂
Of course LeBron is to blame... HE got rid of all lakers youth to put together a team that is old and injury prone... You need youth to defend, you need youth for a bench, you need youth for durability... LeBron said he didn't want to rebuild or wait until... Ball, Ingram, Kuzz... Caruso... Had LeBrom waited it out, kept the youth they had... Added a Howard and Aldridge and waited for free agency, they would be perennial favorites for years to come
"Keep that same energy"
LeBron, August 2021
Don't worry, Skip did 😂😂😂
Always will
Big deal smh 🤦♂️
Rw, wes dRV
Lol 😂, WTF did you expect LBJ to say ? « You’re right, we’re weak » ? Come on man, if you’re a hater, admit it, if you like Bayless, admit it. It’s ok 👌🏾….
@@francoismerieux8770 stop slurping dawg it’s not that serious
October: Shannon “We winning it all”
April : Shannon “I knew we weren’t gonna win”
April fool
Right
Let’s use our brains please. When the season started and they started playing games he realized they weren’t going to win.
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Did you really think he was being serious? Even if he did say that.
This probably Skip biggest W since forever 😂
Since 2011
I like this version of skip he grew fr
Skip lowkey saw this from the beginning going against mainstream opinions on Lakers new Superteam
When they lose, he doesn't play. And he's always on the court when they win. That's the difference bruh.
@@ndiagandiaye4431 what about the games he played that they lost?
The fact that people even weeks ago were still thinking the Lakers would gonna be able to beat anybody in a play-in tournament is insane. This team has BEEN cooked
Facts!
Lebron fans delusional
They were cooked in preseason when they went 0-6. I knew they weren’t gonna be good then!!
@@rubenbon5475 10 finals appearances they ain’t to delusional
@@geezycity7558 Weak East
"Lebron gets critiqued the most when they lose" bruh Lebron gets 100% of the credit when they win. It's only right he gets 100% of the blame when he loses
He shouldnt get 100% of the credit though.
100% of the blame? Russell Westbrook got about 75% of the blame over the course of the season himself. Not saying it wasn't deserved at times, man is a turnover machine, but Lebron is the leader of this team and helped put it together, not Westbrook. I think him finally getting his share of the blame is long overdue.
As ANY superstar/team leader should not excluding Mike…THE REAL GOAT🤷🏿♂️
@@omarthescriblomale8279 You’re right but per LeBron, we all want to “Keep the same energy” so when his team as been failing more than succeeding this year, we’ll play devil’s advocate
facts!!
So nice seeing everyone "keeping that same energy" about the Lakers, like Lebron asked us.
AD has played 76 regular season games in 2 seasons and isnt the dominant force he once was, Im not sure what everyone expects of this team if AD is not on the court
So nice to see a Hater
I’m a bron fan but I agree man. He needs to humble himself a bit
@@realfacts1333 You're an illiterate clown
@@sirebah8281 you sound dumb asf just bc he believed in his team don't mean he need to humble himself you ain't no real Lebron fan we'll see who has the last laugh
This season everyone’s career highs was against the lakers 😂😂😂😂😂.
Lakers and Magic
What's even more tasty is they're being paid the most money to give opponents career highs😋
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Facts
@@nassiglutt6587 yup 💸 💰
Pelinka: “You can say this room has the greatest basketball talent assembled in recent times”
Bron: “it was exciting helping put this team together, i watch enough basketball to know what I need to do to help the club depending on the acquisitions we make per year”
No excuses we keeping the same energy too💀💀💀
Nice to know somebody spends there time searching for things like that shows who you are as a person
Lol, who’s searching? This was openly stated by LeBron.
You ignore facts in your offline life too?
@@donkeydarko77 uhm it wasn't said yesterday ..so for him to comment it quote by quote when he don't even like Lebron is funny y'all nd you commenting putting your two sense in as if I didn't know that makes y'all look stupid
LeAss is trash
@@Jayyquince cringe
You can’t hype him up for his performance at 37 then use that as an excuse when he fails. If he’s playing at an mvp level I don’t want to hear any he’s old excuses.
So what else was he suppose to do? Average half as many points? He deserves some blame but with the roster that he ok’d, it failed.
You can’t put all the blame on James. I thought it was a team game last I checked? He did what he could.
@@CalobAdamsInfamous913 I’m saying if he’s playing like an MVP, why mention his age? They use his age to prop him up then turn around and use it to cut him slack. You can’t have both. If he’s averaging 30 then clearly age isn’t affecting him so I don’t want excuses when he slacks in other areas.
@@richardwestfield9874 Naw actually he didn’t. His defense this year was atrocious. I’m not giving you credit for averaging 30 when you turned around on defense gave up 25-30 points a game as well. If you average 30 and give up 30 what did you really accomplish?
@@jbond9637 That’s the thing. He’s playing above expectations for someone his age, but at the end of the day in order to win you need to have pieces who are capable of contributing consistently. You weirdos have to think realistically, he’s not iron man he can do every god damn thing on the court cus if that’s the case tf he has teammates for
"I can look at the chicken that Paula Patton was cooking yesterday and tell it's trash" 😂😂😂
Unc don't miss nothing! 😂😂😂
@@BW22682 nothing! 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
on my momma😂😭 wypipo seasoning
I agree with Skip here. When LeBron first came to LA, he said he invited Magic Johnson over to his house to discuss the roster. He definitely has a big hand in the roster.
Finally, someone know wtf they are talking about
@@brianhiggins3577 right here both this guy and skip 😂🤣
He wanted AD and they won
He shouldn't. He should just play basketball. That's what he's good at. He doesn't have an MBA or a JD.
He does but I’m still giving some blame to Rob Pelinka for letting LeBron create this dumpster fire
Shannon truly became the “blind witness” Skip calls his supporters. No one cares about the bubble championship, that was 2020 and has nothing to do with 2022. LeBron built this team and deserves most of the blame for the Lakers missing the playoffs.
But skip can bring up 2011?
Lebron asked for one player and now he built the entire squad? Did you forget he doesn’t work in the front office
He won a championship 2 years ago that’s an important fact. If he would if lost y’all wouldn’t have said anything
Ok mapquestboy LMFAO
Everyone over as ESPN is.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer, taking into account all aspects of the season & team dynamics : Also yes.
You know Shannon lost when he's just bringing up the bubble the whole time.
Shannon is a been a clown
@@tigerhoods7927 if you gone be wrong atleast spell right🤡
You know people are salty when they bring up how the lakers won a Mickey championship when their team was competing for that same championship and still lost💀💀
What, that’s how most of these players talk.
No it contradicts lebron haters by showing how they put all the blame on lebron for lakers roster this year but don’t give him all the credit for the roster that won the ring in 2020
It’s also about HOW the Lakers lost so many of their games: little to no defense, blowing leads late, falling behind early and never catching up. Those aren’t just basketball issues, they’re effort issues. A lot of that comes down to the kind of example your best player sets. He doesn’t deserve much blame as a player but, as a leader, a lot of this falls on him.
Also just plain old being Old and not caring as much....some of Westbrooks play wasn't just “In A Slump" basketball ...it was headscratchingly awful. Like if you brought a chick to a game that don't know much she would never in a million years believe he was a former MVP...padded triple doubles or not
I'm sorry but effort is how much you want it as a individual. You can try and blame it on LeBron if you want but I'd ask by your example why did the Lakers have players with Kobe that gave little effort.
@@theonemvp5599 I’d say that when the Lakers were bad during Kobe’s tenure it was more the result of lack of talent than lack of effort. A ton of guys who no one expected much from, playing down to expectations. I’d say the same thing about the super young Lakers during Bron’s first season in LA. They played hard, just weren’t very good yet. The same can’t be said about this year’s squad.
Nah. That's on coaching. That's the case in every team sport. It's always been that way.
@@jerelmerrill7100 yeah exactly...Kobe did the opposite of what Brady's doing at the end of his career...he made them pay him superMax when bc of the Championship contracts from a few years before they had to build thru the draft bc they had no salary..after he won the last 2 Kobe didn't really care that much about putting another team together
He called himself the GOAT. Damn right we're putting the blame on him.
You're a clown
He's never said he's the Goat
@@noahday3874 actually he did
then give that man all the credit for the championship. goes both ways
This
Lebron being a liability on defense does more for them losing then his scoring does for winning. Anyone that has played before will know this.
Nah that's 🧢, now roster suggestions I would agree with.
Pretty much the nets, not even hating.
That’s exactly what I said about Curry. I don’t care how many times he’s averaged 30. In any season he’s always a complete liability on defense
At least bron gets an age excuse since he was a monster defender in his prime
But a player like Curry never plays any defense, so whenever they lose it’s because he gives up so many points
Difference is, he’s surrounded by a dpoy who picks up all his defensive slack and laziness.
Lebron isn’t blessed with that same amount of help‼️
You know it - and I know it.
@@leultrainstinct406 Curry has actually been pretty good on defensive this year. Hes improved a lot. But before he was kinda a liability.
I thought yall said Lebron makes people better? Now its, "lebron did his job". Yall gotta pick a side
Ask them to name one player whose game was elevated as a result of playing with Lebron James... And I mean sustained elevation. Players either became a shell of themselves or they were already great and didn't need his help.
I’m one of the people that believes he’s definitely capable of making his teammates better and sometimes he does, but not usually
@@gabriel_the_salubri I don’t think he makes his teammates worse. I understand the argument but statiscally usually his teammates remain the same
Man Skip really just getting W after W
Gotta love it as he 🧹 LeShannon off the floor just like KD did to Lebron TWICE in the finals 😍
Every dog shall have its day.
@@Mercurial. yeah KD beat LeBron because his team was way better. Use context
Definitely lebron fault. The team was assembled how he wanted. He's the leader.
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@@Pendells_cards dam bro over here riding lebum
That’s what I said about both Kobe’s failed super team
First with Shaq, Malone, and Payton
And 2nd with nash and Howard
It was all his fault because he’s the leader
People hate on lebron. He's only missed the playoffs maybe 2 times out of 19 yrs that's amazing.
@@mrrrmickey007 wtf does that have to do with anything that this dude commented
"No athlete was ever critiqued like this"
No athlete called themselves the chosen one and the greatest of all time in the middle of their career.
plenty of athletes have done that lmaoo did you actually think before this????? i think lebron deserves the blame for this season’s shortcomings, but theres no way you actually think no other athlete has done that
Muhammad Ali did. But he proved it over and over again. And he did it to gain notoriety.
He didn't call himself that. He was in high-school at the time. That was a Sports Illustrated marketing tool for magazine when he was on cover at the time. (Read the article. Its pretty spot on.) Choosen one to replace jordan as the next great basketball player. And Sports Illustrated was right. Lebron is the only one in the convo.
@@huntersartin 19th season. Averaged 36 pts. 2nd in scoring title. His fault? How much blame do the rest of the players who played get then!
Lebron didn't give himself that nickname, he was given it in high school by Sports Illustrated.
He’s not an iconic Laker and he shares the blame of this season’s demise but I wouldn’t go that far to question his legacy and contribution to the game of basketball based on this shortcoming.
Well damn unlike like kobe and Magic, he's not ever going to play the same amount of seasons with LA as they did, plus he's way past his prime going in while they both were in their prime. That's such a bogus comparison given that fact alone
Yeah his Decision contribution
Billie I agree. This season doesn't take away from LeBron's legacy of being the second best player of all time. What it DOES do is put the exclamation point on **Bubble Chip!!
True. He is past his prime still putting up 30. His defense has been deteriorating for years. I just laugh at Skip going at LeBron but tries to put a positive spin on Baker Mayfield.
@@sensiblyhonest695 🤣 you sound salty
I have rarely heard lebron get the lions share of the blame. This entire season and previous seasons when things go right it’s always “ look how lebron carries his team and makes the player around him better”. When things go bad it’s “ look what he had to work with” he has always gotten the lions share of the credit for the four championship or going to 10 finals like he did it all by himself, but doesn’t deserve the lions share of the blame when things crumble?
Are you high lol
@@showtimej2582 naw he just a stupid, irrational hater lol
You would have a case if Lebron was avg. 15 ppg but hes avg. 30 ppg SO
At one point the lakers were 4-14 after the all star break in games Lebron didn’t score 50. Tf are you even saying?💀💀
Your right, clippers had no help, better record, jokic all alone, luka alone.. lebron is overrated. He needs more help then anyone in history
Shannon: "let's blame the front office"
Also Shannon: "who's responsible for AD and Rondo getting there"
Shannon basically admitted that Lebron is the GM and constructed this roster along with Rob Pelinka
I would agree but it's not like they haven't said no to lebron before like when they hired Vogel instead of Ty Lue who bron wanted. Clearly the front office can say no to lebron.
Why is it such a problem for a GM to ask their all time great player "what kind of players do you want to be surrounded with, what players do you think will work well with you" I don't get it
@@3nim3nimabl3 he’s basically exposing Shannon’s hypocrisy here. Shannon gives Lebron credit when the roster is good but when the rosters bad he wants to blame the front office.
@@xLaMarquis309 Lebron helping to bring along 3 out of 20 players on the roster since joining the team is not grounds to say he’s in control of the roster construction, yall just go out of your way to detract. There’s so many logical negative things to point out about Lebron but y’all literally make up narratives beyond his already set negatives to try and pile on. It’s stupid..
The fact Lebron wanted Demar and the front office denied that option just proves the opposite.
You really think Lebron would pick RUSS over demar? Lmaoo that’s something a trash gm like mj would do
Shannon had the time of his life during the bubble. Now its Skip's turn
I was having a rough day just as we all do 🙌 but when I watch these guy’s, they bring me nothing but laughter and smiles🙌🙌🙌. Thanks Unc & Skip
agreed this is the best sports talk show since the good ole days of Cold Pizza, Pardon the Interruption and Around the Clock
W
LeBron has been stat padding all season. While being a bum on the defensive end. Add that to his LeGM role, and he plays a heavy part in this disastrous season.
Exactly.
I don’t want to hear about “hes 37” or injuries, or whatever other excuses if hes 37 why do they hype him up that he was leading the league in scoring at the age of 37, everyone talks about “he has the greatest longevity ever” but cant make the play in with ad, russ, Melo, and Dwight? Clippers aren’t making any excuses with their two best players playing less games combined than ad has, enough is enough I’m definitely keeping that same energy because the fact that this team will have less wins than a 38/39 yr old mj on the wizards with kwame brown is beyond pathetic and has to go down as the biggest flop ever in Nba history
All facts 💯
This mf had the AUDACITY to put AD with Russ, Melo, BUT DWIGHT?! BRUH IT ISN’T 2012 ANYMORE WAKE UP!
I’ll add context: Ad barely played Melo and Dwight are old and Russ didn’t fit until later half of the season
Russ, Melo and Dwight? Lool this isn’t 2009 brother…you casuals are out of control
@@baseebird If you read I added enough context bc ad played more games than kawhi and pg did combined this season and they have a better record with Reggie Jackson? Enough with the excuses
2017, Krause spoke about his undisclosed working relationship with MJ.
“I’ll say this about him, he never came to me and asked for other players. He never came to me and asked me to draft a player. He never came to me to ask me to trade for a player. Never once did that happen.”
That’s literally cap lol. In the last dance they said mj tried to recruit players by Krause denied him because they were horrible options
Years later we see how trash he is as a gm💀
Lmaoooo… Did you NOT watch The Last Dance??? 😆😆😆
@@leultrainstinct406 no he didnt
@@leultrainstinct406 and he's not a gm
@@BobbyJOnline i dont think you did
Bronsexuals blaming injuries as an excuse..
Nuggets had Jokic w/o two max players.. Warriors with Steph, Klay, or Dray gone for most of the yr.. Clips w/o PG or Kawhi.. Memphis w/o Ja.. Dallas w/o Luka for 17 games. Why do they got a better record than the Lakers?
because every team you mentioned has other role players who are young, play hard, and do their jobs. Lakers have a bunch of old geezers who play ZERO defense and are all one one year minimum contracts 🤣🤣
@@aliasfitness6684 and whose fault is that for giving up all of their young talent and picks for a bunch of veterans? LeGM James. He is a repeated offender of this. This happened with the Cavs.
@@Invictus-Solaris i didn’t say it was or wasn’t his fault. i all i did was state the facts. i’m well aware he probably had a big part in putting the team together but that doesn’t change the fact that their team has been hurt, and they’re old geezers who play no defense.
@@Invictus-Solaris he didn’t ask who’s fault is was. he asked why the Lakers don’t have a record similar to other injured teams and i gave him an answer to his question.
Crazy cuz I’ve seen fans of all those teams use injuries as an excuse💀💀
Nuggets get swept last year: JaMaL WaS InJurEd
Warriors miss the playoffs for the 2nd year in a row: KLaY WaS InjureD
Clippers choke in the playoffs: KaWhi WaS InjURed
Etc🤣
Just going to put this out there: Kobe Bryant, on what turned out to be his final great year (thanks to that injury), carried a poorly-fit Lakers team of aging players (Gasol, Nash, Jamison, World Peace) and a just-past-his-peak-perennial All-Star with chemistry issues (Howard) to the 7th seed, an outright playoff team in the West. LeBron James, with legitimately comparable circumstances, could not even lift his team (that he had a bigger role in constructing, with a higher scoring average) into the freaking play-in. Along with other strong arguments I've got, don't ever tell me again that James is a greater player than Bryant ever was. Just facts. Plain and simple.
Kobe Bryant Was Truly Underrated By Many
@@tonysanders1299 that team was far better than this one that’s a weak argument
LeBron was injured
Shannon defending Lebron is like Skip defending Tom Brady
Exactly! Well put.
Skippydoodoo is WORSE!!
What else to expect? The two most overrated players in their respective sports.
@@mastermagnetismmagneto3xm455 LeBron isn’t overrated
Lebron ask us to keep that same energy at least we did what he asked us too do . PS I’m a lebron fan .
Ha.. and the sky is purple
Same
Gentlemen… What was he supposed to say? “Everyone lower your expectations this season”??
@@mrseanmac727 He shouldn’t have said nothing at all
That joke is getting old…
We can never let Lebron off the hook for this one. God I miss Kobe
He missed the playoffs in his prime lmao
@@TellHerNothing never with a team of HOFs
@@MrShymon3y AD missed 40 games, Westbrook has played horribly most the season, Melo and Dwight are washed who cares if they are HOF’s, what are they producing right now this season lol
@@MrShymon3y kobe never gets credit for making his teammates better. after losing to the celtics 08 he knew the team had to be tougher he challenged them the whole year and turned gasol from being soft to holding his own against KG. Kobe was unstoppable offensively but he could also do many things. i hate people painting narratives, they lack
context and are short sighted .
I miss Kobe SO MUCH😩
I miss being 17-65 in his 19th season
I miss his failed super team with nash and Howard
I miss missing the playoffs for 8 straight years😪‼️
If he is the "Leader" then yes. Leaders of teams take and receive the responsibility with no excuses
I dont think you get this seasons LAKERS is
If the Won, Lebrons the leader, if they lose? Westbrooks for some strange reason is the leader
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@@Pendells_cards Lakers/LeBron clown fans like you
Then It’s 100% Curry’s fault that his team blew a 3-1 lead. Not anyone else’s.
It’s his fault his team had the biggest choke in history
False, he is the leader and therefore was responsible for being the best performer and most consistent player...which he achieved with flying colours. This doesn't mean he's the person to take on all the blame for his team's lackluster season. Being a leader and being responsible for failure are not synonymous.
As a LeBron fan, I give him somewhere in the 70% range of blame. He is culpable in the roster being assembled, regardless of who he wanted or didn't want, and their disgraceful performance this season. Injuries, coaching, the inconsistency of the role players, he couldn't do much for that. But you can't criticize the front office or their construction of the roster without mentioning him. He does not and should not get to escape that.
Thank you for being honest
He isn’t the gm
No because he wanted Demar but the front office literally denied him, so they went with the next best option.
By that logic, the wizards missing the playoffs both of mj years is completely his fault
70% of the blame is flat out stupidity. I’d say 25% max for requesting Westbrook but the front office has the last say and have told him no before so why not tell him no for this? Why did they choose to be cheap instead of retaining Caruso? Frank Vogel’s lineups, rotations and lack of galvanizing this team has been horrible. AD missing half the season is Lebron’s fault? Westbrook shooting under 40% for 2 months was Lebron’s fault? Lool cmon bro that’s asinine.
Can’t be the GOAT missing the playoffs
Here comes the age excuses🤡🤣
Forget the playoffs....he missed the "play-in" which shouldn't exist he couldn't compete for a "2nd chance" @ the playoffs
THANK U!!
Yup that's why Duncan is the GOAT, because jordan missed the playoffs too
In 20 years miss the playoff a handful of time but make the FINALS for 10 years straight!
Skip gave Shannon the work he was on the ropes the whole time. Shannon was blame deflecting and making more excuses then a defense attorney
A broken clock is right twice a day
@@edwardnigma5186 how
The funny thing is both the Spurs and the Pelicans have the tiebreaker over the Lakers.
Pels best player has been out all season and spurs don't even a superstar, its crazy
This proves that the 2020 title was a Mickey Mouse championship. 2 years later and they are struggling to make the playoffs. A-Disney and LeMickey 🐐🐐😂
Penaldo Is Finished he cant even put up empty stats like LeMickey
The conditions were the same for everyone it’s not the Lakers fault they did their job and others didn’t. And this isn’t even the same roster from that championship season
@@rohangupte3545 yawn
@@rohangupte3545 fake chip
They were the first seed when the world was normal so that doesn’t make any sense
Shame how delusional Leshannon is
5-8% lol he's trippin
"I'm excited putting together what I felt to be a champion winning team." Followed by, "this team has great chemistry."
What a season. 😆
In all honesty the show is gonna be good for the nba playoffs because the lakers are out and we see that these two are actually good analysts but they gone slide lebron in anyway😂😂😂😂
This is all Lebrons fault for having this massive ego and thinking he’s a good GM and handpicking these players one by one . He deserves missing out on the playoffs . Just sayin , Jordan could never 🤷♂️
How could Jordan “never” when he did?? Jordan was in charge of the Wizards and they didn’t make the playoffs both years he played
preach
Mj single handily ruined an entire wizards franchise just by being there and putting in zero effort for two years💀💀
Well Jordan literally drafted Kwame Brown, so I don’t want to ever hear “Jordan would never” after someone calls Lebron a bad GM. Gm work doesn’t matter when assessing a basketball player , it’s about how they play basketball and their performance, and I don’t understand why people don’t get this
@@mrseanmac727 lol spot on bro….🎯👏🏿🎯👏🏿🎯👏🏿🎯👏🏿🎯👏🏿🎯👏🏿
If the absence of Anthony Davis for a significant number of games this season turns the Lakers from the Western (odds on) favorite to a non-play-in tournament, then perhaps we should not be crediting Lebron so much with the success (when it has happened). Seems to me that AD deserves more of that credit --- though LBJ does deserve his fair share
AD will always miss alot games not going change always been injured prone since pelicans days🥵
Skip and Shannon didn’t even fist bump at the start of the show 🤣
ALL YEAR we heard "we've never seen a 37 year old play this great"
Missed the playoffs with 4 top 75 players on his roster and another HOFer
This is 2011 part TWO levels of bad and this is NOW on ""GOAT James" resume 😭
@@michael138 And accomplished more.
@@michael138 and he won more in less years *Mike Drop* lol
It’s a team game lebron was still elite individually big difference compared to 2011 when he played individually terrible and lost his team the series you can get on lebron for the roster but for not his play
@@baseebird let's talk about his elite defense that helped opponents outscore them while he's on the court
LeBron probably has the WORST plus minus in his career & y'all still trying to say he played great
Mj was 1-9 without pippen in the first round
Without pippen he’d have ZERO RINGS, ZERO FMVPS, ZERO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL
He’s not even deserving of top 75‼️
skip and shannon get along good. max and stephenA dont click and got max fired. respect to skip and shannon
These were the same clowns talking about how Wayne Ellington was a big pick-up for the Lakers! lol...what a joke!
The Lakers going from NBA champion pre season favorites to not making the playoffs. This is amazing.
Watch the Suns, Grizzlies, Mavs, 76ers, Bucks perhaps Nets all have exciting and thrilling runs and this cast will find a way to talk about Lebron and the Lakers during the playoffs :/
It's time to trade LeBron
Shannon with the Paula dissed😂😂
“Keep that same energy” LeGM is now mad at the media for assembling this sorry team😂
As a LeBron fan, he deserves the same amount of blame, as what he gets credited for, when they win.
You can tell all the Jordan Stans and LBJ haters been waiting for this episode all year 😂
This topic has been going on since the second half of this season. Not sure why you think everyone would be "waiting" for this.
So great to see a bronsexual open his eyes
@@ytoowbbb8997 not so pretty to hear jordansexual talking
@@ytoowbbb8997 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, I just watch this show for Shannon and Skip's unlikely friendship. You can tell these guys just love working together and getting under each other's skin.
Absolutely this would have been more contentious and uncomfortable 2 or 3 years ago. Here they pulled their punches and listen to each other.
"He makes his teammates better" no longer works as a narrative. Stat-padding is not a very complicated skill, you have advantages in a competition, you pass the ball so your teammates gain some confidence to build upon as the season progress. If you play a better team, assert your dominance while keeping your teammates involve, that is leadership. But we see a different pattern all throughout, he sat out when competition is hard and play when it was easy and at the same time looking to score, this is demoralizing to his teammates and the fruits showed.
Who makes more excuses Shannon for LeBron or skip for Brady?????
The only fact from Skip is Bron not closing out close games in the 4th Quarter.
I agree with that !
what superstar in a comparable position would close those games?
LeBron James built a superteam and still missed the playoffs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s 100% guilty. He pushed to get Westbrook to LA.
Every “roster wise” decision is accepted by that loser, and that’s on him!
No playoffs, great job L-Bron!
even the second greatest couldnt do it. with his own team, the team he built and the team he had so much confidence in before the season 😭. shannon jus gotta take his L
Isnt the second greatest
LeFraud is not even seventh-greatest, and this is easy to prove.
Wow 1:53 one helluva quote here. Put this on a t shirt somewhere
SKIP ALMOST HAD SHANNON CRYING!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol anyone who puts the blame on Westbrook clearly doesn’t watch the game. Their defense & AD being injured all season was the problem.
He sure didn't help
Westbrook's PER so far (for 78 games) is 15.06.
That stat is adjusted to always be 15 for the average league player. So Westbrook played no better than an average player, while getting a super-max contract that cost the team their shooting, depth, and defenders. That is a huge negative value for the team.
the front office is the reason. street clothes davis is the reason. they’ll blame lebron and fire Frank Vogel as usual. end of discussion. this team was already done 2 to 3 months ago. let’s talk about the team that beat them that’s top of the west by 5+ games.
Lmao they never blame lebron wtf you talking about..lebron gets away with everything and lebron gets the squad traded and coaches fire so you lebron fan boys need to just shut up
What about Lebron not playing defense and padding his stats instead of trying to win? 🤨
Shannon, you get way too emotional when defending Lebron.
It's not that Rich Paul cant have clients but Lebron. James stuck his neck out for this dude and said he was untradable and the guy was bust
Then Lebron had the chance to get Demar but chose to get Russ instead.
Time and time again Shannon you have stated this is a superstar driven league and they make the ultimate decision so we all know Lebron did when it came to this roster.
It finally caught up with him and now the Lakers are going to be sitting at home watching the playoffs.
The Lakers couldn't guarantee the amount of money Demar wanted, it wasn't Lebron dipshit
I wonder if skip will retire with lebron. He has nothing else to talk about.
You know Skiiiiiiup is onto one when he starts naming players full birth names when he’s making a point 😂
This was the 4th time LeBron has missed the playoffs. Not something he would want on his resume.
The whole “He makes everyone around him better” banter should never be brought up again. Three great players have now played worse with LeBron than without him (Bosh, Love and Westbrook).
You don't know Basketball
@@speezymack1712 He’s correct.
Bosh got 2 chips wit lebron and love got a chip with em you sound dumb and they played great with lebron
What an asinine take
I’m not choosing sides here, I personally do not care about the Lakers at all. However just based on what I have seen this season it is very hard for me to agree with Shannon about LeBron being the goat. Or MVP for that matter. I played sports for a very very long time when I was younger and walking out of the arena consistently when your team fails is nothing of a goat status. That’s a crybaby status. There is so much more to being the greatest player ever than scoring 40 points a game. This lakers team was the biggest failure ever in the history of the NBA. That being said, I do feel like skip Bayless over exaggerates a lot. I was around when Jordan played and I’m around now, putting LeBron James’s name in the same sentence as Michael Jordans is blasphemous. These two men are not the same at all. Lebron is a whole tier below. Frank wasn’t the issue. As far as coaching. LeBron put his general manager shoes on and just completely destroyed their defense by ripping away Carouso, rondo, Kuzma, Casey P, JaVale McGee. For what? For a bunch of 30+ old dudes who don’t know how to play defense. Including you LeBron.
To be fair, they had Rondo in first couple of months of the season and he and McGee are both 34+ years old.
Great fair to take man
No..35+ dudes...
Did you mean KCP not Casey P?
CASEY P? 🤣🤣🤣
Huh 5 to 8%??????? Stop it! That should be higher than that. Russ was there because of LeBron James
Unc didn’t have to go after Paula Patton’s chicken 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lebron deserves a lot of blame. AD is not a point guard.. he doesn’t decide when he gets the ball. Lakers won when lebron averaged 10 assists. This season lebron took the second most field goal attempts he’s ever taken in his career. When lebron is not playing AD and Westrbook plays better. All he’s been doing for the last few months is chase Kareem.
If Lebron wants to be in the GOAT conversation, then he needs to be measured against Kobe and Jordan. Kobe and Jordan were cold-blooded killers. Lebron has shown flashes of that. But not enough to be considered #1.
Kobe and Jordan weren’t killing nothing in year 19 and at 37 years old. And lebron in his prime has many times shown he can dominate the opposing team. Lebron haters are just describing lebron entire career based on only this season
@@jamarwilliams5070 not a Lebron hater. Im a Heat fan who's also old enough to watch entire careers of all 3 players. I watched, in person, Jordan drop 50 pts when he was 40 years old during his stint in Washington and when he killed the Celtics and Larry Bird when he was a rookie. He looked pretty dominant then.
Lebron was never as clutch as either Jordan or Kobe. He's definitely dominant. That's why he's in the conversation. But, he's never been the most clutch player ever.
@@trufan7358 based on what you said you’re are either lying or you’re suffering from amnesia. Lebron many times has been both dominant and clutch taking over whole 4th quarters, locking down offensive stars and hitting big time shots. He definitely has been as clutch as MJ and Kobe
@@jamarwilliams5070 Lebron in his prime got outplayed by JJ barrea😭🤣🤣🤣
@@jamarwilliams5070 not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6
Imagine defending like that a clown that is more preoccupied on looking good on front court that bringing his team to the playoffs . That summons up the hige difference between real goats like Mj and Kobe and that clown 🤡 .
the bubble is like a strike-shortened season with replacement players in MLB-how many top tier players opted out, and Miami was decimated-they were 500 when healthy. it's amazing how the defense is never mentioned when speaking about this team, LeBron, aka, "transition D is not my forte."
Meanwhile, Brady only missed the playoffs once, very early in his career, and NEVER had a losing season. But Shannon be like “is he the GOAT though?”
The 81 MLB season rings a bell
@@donkeydarko77 bad comparison
@@nonamewillbegiven6136 It is literally the comparison they make every show, bad or not. First time?
@@donkeydarko77 like i care
It was Bazemor for me at the beginning of the season that was my sign that this season wasn't going to work. Although the 2020 season was short, it was LeBron and ADs best start of their 3 years.
5 top 75 players on the team. You didn't make the playoffs? No one's going to be accountable? You give him all the credit. When they win. He deserves the blame. When they lose. Y'all LeBron sympathizers! Give me a headache!
Lebron brought this energy upon himself when he declared himself the GOAT. He’s not, but claiming so has brought on the comparisons.
Had he remained humble, with enough time and the right support he’d have a better argument.
lmao but it’s alright when mj calls himself black jesus
@@aligreaper1941 MJ didn’t call himself that, Larry Bird said he was like god in tennis shoes. People started calling him Black Jesus after that… a derivative of his original nickname, Black Cat!
@@bzso9603 lmao so confidently incorrect, mj is on record calling himself black jesus, so tell me again what’s worse, calling yourself a literal messiah, or having confidence and calling yourself the goat
Just happy all the buddy-buddy players are losing this season. Finally we gonna get two straight months of no Lakers coverage. Hopefully Nets follow up
Yes, he handpicked this team and this team plays no defense. He's just chasing records now
its funny vogel is the coach when bron wanted him but the front office cant say no to lebron?
Yea there are tons of plays where Lebron just walks around in defense. Sometimes he doesn't even come back to defense even when jogging back to defense was enough. The worst part is that Lebron snaps at teammates for not hustling. He also likes to turn the blame to rookies or players who are not veterans even when it wasn't their fault. He is a hypocrite and not a leader.
Hard to average 30 and also play elite defense at his age bruh
@@abouttime2569 like punching weak teammates in the face? thats quality leadership right? but being afraid to hold a 7 footer to the same standard is the bar for excellence
@@youraverage90sguys7 I am literally talking about Lebron. Why are you even bringing up Jordan for? How illogical can a human being be?
AD is to blame, this should be ADs year but he did not show up LB should be the second guy.
Shannon brags about Lebron being 37 and averaging 30 points as if it's unbelievable. Then the Lakers lose and Shannon goes with, 'He's 37, he can't put this team on his back'. So which is it? *Is Lebron 37 and fantastic* or *is he 37 and can't carry a team at his age?* Notice Shannon won't address Lebron's *leadership* and him *quitting* on his team.
Now we can end the goat debate. Mj is the goat period
Lord more excuses for lebron James excuse after excuse.
They always do that to him. But when he wins they say he did it all by himself and that he is from Akron and wasn't supposed to be here or do that lol
@@tnoyce9632 FACTS
If the Lakers want to save their future quickly they should part with LeBron and AD asap. Otherwise this is how they'll play as long as LeBron and AD are there. They're not a playoff team no matter who they get around them.
Of course the blame has to be put on LBJ. He has to be held accountable. Missing games when his teammates need him. Remember in 2012-2013 season Kobe guaranteed the Lakers would make the playoffs and what did he do took over the whole second half of the season that year, unfortunately he tore his Achilles but they still made the playoffs.
Skip putting up Wilt numbers today
Lebron is definitely responsible for a good amount of the blame and I’m a Lebron Fan. His leadership as the years have gone on has really been in question. Just in how he handles things when they DONT go his way. As a leadership development coach it’s grinds my gears when he takes all the credit but not any of the blame. Plus his effort on defense was nasty and inspired no one else to step up. I blame the laker office annnnd the legends on the team you guys KNOW what to do! DO IT! You wanna ring when it counts get it! I’m very disappointed in Melo. I’m disappointed in DWIGHT! I’m disgusted by AD being so fragile! All this was trash! No HEART! Lebron knows better than this! Westbrick was Absolutely garbage all year! The whole thing was trash and it unfortunately has to go on Lebron’s legacy. Please let us no longer compare Jordan and Lebron for the number one spot. MJ #1 Lebron is number 3!
LeBron is 2, and why should this count on his legacy when he has nothing else to prove? I’m sorry but 10% of the blame on him is fair because the front office has the last say, not him
"I think lebron is 5-8% responsible"
Shannon Sharpe, the ultimate lebron shill
Lakers blame this season
15% bron
30% ad
30% russ
10% Vogel
10% rest of the team
5% front office
Seems like pretty reasonable percentages for each one, I can agree with this.
But Vogel the first guy out smh
shannon always hitting kobe for missing the playoffs after shaq left. the lakers were in a rebuilding process and kobe had to play with smush parker and kwame brown, kobe got injured and missed a lot of games and as a result they missed the playoffs. Now lebron missed the playoffs and he making lame excuses. He got AD and Russ he has better situation to make the playoffs 😂
LeBron and the Lakers had a worst record than Jordan and the Wizards
I know most people would dismiss this. I’ve coached LeBron from his early years. He was the nicest kid that every kid on the squad gyrated around him. I watched him become one the worst persons you wanted to be around. I believe some of these players are seeing what I’ve noticed about this young man. And is not playing to their potential. Please look at all these players that has joined teams with LeBron and watch how their play shrank. Then they go to another team and play out their minds. I call it the LeBron Effect. His attitude can easily rub you the wrong way. It’s the one thing about him I can’t stand. His head is huge. One day I ran into him, excited to see him and he intentionally ignored me. I’m still proud of his accomplishment, but that one aspect is enough to stand back and make you wonder about this younger teammates. I think his style is rubbing teammates the wrong way, including AD. My opinion. We’re from Akron and that’s our boy, good or bad!
Shannon got him with the bubble analogy as always 💯💯
Yeah he got him there
Not really
Lakers eliminated! You love to see it!
A losing record should disqualify your team from the playoffs
Skip got Shay shook