I aslo fell for manticore hype but was very disappointed with the performance. I feel it is WAY over priced for what it actually does. I am pretty sure manticore will be collecting dust in many closets. They are also beginning to show up on marketplace. Will it detect? Yes. Is it worth $1500? Absolutely Not.
You’re exactly right! I have the same problem with mine and forget about the 2d screen I have a piece of black tape covering my screen at the 2d part it’s worthless and just distracting, here’s when I knew it was bullshit, so my place sits on 10 acres and is from the 1800’s old farm, so I got what appeared to be a coin signal in the 2d screen a perfect small circle and good Id number so I dig and I dig and it turned out to be a 50 gal steel drum so that’s the last time I looked at the 2d screen So tell me why again did I pay $2000 bucks for this $300 dollar machine? To many Minelab fanboys out there kissing the ring in hopes of free shit I suspect Been doing this over 30 years and used many detectors and the manticore has to be the biggest gimmick detector ever sold What they did was produce a couple quality detectors like the CTX to get their name solid then rake the rest of us out of our money Well I’m sticking with the legend much better machine and a 1/4 of the price So I think I’ll make a video of the manticore at the end of my rifle range and see about putting a couple 5.56 rounds through it THATS HOW MUCH THIS THING AGGRAVATED ME And no one tell me it’s in the settings because I’ve done just about every combination possible to get this thing right Now you guys that have no trash in your fields and just good targets it probably works fine AND SO WOULD EVERY OTHER DETECTOR, I wanted one to get through the trash like I thought a $2000 dollar detector should If you guys quit sucking up to this company maybe JUST MAYBE they’ll make us a quality machine worth swinging and under $1000 bucks!!! But I won’t hold my breath
Tip- GB detector first when using tracking GB. Why? Manticore as well as EQX line depending on soil mineralization levels can track slower than a lot of other models. You can do experiment if you wish and I think you will see. And detecting the deeper stuff GB more important for higher quality signals achieved on targets.
Don’t let purchasing a Minelabe Manticore put you off by people like this . Firstly I got a manticore in Malaysia and it’s been awesome on beach hunting , I used a Nox 800 with a 15 inch coil and got heaps of finds and at least 60 grams of 916 gold in 14 months , I am on my 4th gold ring , since getting the manticore in late December. It’s awesome , beret signal quality, picking up the smallest of metal signals in ridiculous depths , hitting coins at 20 plus inches . The lightest 916 gold ring , being 1.1 grams at 8 inches!, this is with a standard 11 inch coil , now I can’t wait to get the 15 inch coil on this detector. Don’t listed to people that talk BS
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@tincantelephone your comet explains how little experience and knowledge you have. Another fanboy. This machine only works in neutral ground that’s it! Can’t handle difficult soil at all it’s a joke but what can you know when you haven’t got clue
Coins at 20 “ 😓 I always was already really impressed with coins at 10” ….even with machines that where made for raw depth …well done Minelab to bring out the Manticore while i am still learning my ctx 😂
First of all, put your mobile phone on airplane mode. D do a decent noise cancel, reduce your sensitivity. Read the manual. Pretty ridiculous to make such a statement when you are the cause yourself.
Lol, phone was on this mode. The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@delucrt1100 not too bad, true. But still, detector is worth 2000 EUR and everybody I know who purchased the Manticore in Baltics have the same issues. The same problem with the unit in Russia, so looks like the best Manticores has been sent to UK and USA.
i had the same problem on the beach,its very sparkey after useing quiet detectors it takes some getting use to allso the deep signals are all over the place hope minelab can quieten it down with a download,a bit dissapointing.
You must feel terrible with your new manticore not operating the way you want it to…..Here’s a few things I noticed watching your video that may help you: 1. Your lower ferrous limits setting was too close to the non-ferrous target line…your small hammered coin was showing up on your screen but your lower ferrous limits setting was partially masking it out. 2. It’s more beneficial to ground balance your machine after turning it on…do an auto ground balance (pump the ground). Don’t assume the ground auto tracking will “quickly” normalize your machine to your ground….it’s very gradual. 3. Just lower your sensitivity down a couple notches (22) or until the falsing stops or becomes less problematic..The manticore is still deep/sensitive with values above 20. 4. When doing a noise cancel, hold down the button continuously and let your machine find the cleanest EMI free channel. Let go of the button when your noise channel number stops changing.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 It's possible that your ground balance is defective. You didn't perform a proper ground balance and you didn't decrease the Sensitivity. Both of which spurred me to make suggestions to improve your situation. I learned that you have returned the detector for repairs. I will be following your situation to see how it turns out. What follows many not pertain to you. Good luck with your repairs! Listed below are a few examples of the BEST PRACTICES of how to operate the Minelab Manticore to reduce falsing. This is not a detailed explanation, nor do I cover different environmental scenarios, nor have I outlined the precedence of establishing the detectors parameters, all of which are critical for optimal detector performance, reduced falsing. The coil radiates an electromagnetic force (EMF). The Search Mode and the Recovery Speed control the amount of EMF that is radiated from the coil and into the ground. EMF energizes the ground which in turn has an affect on the Sensitivity, VDI/TID, detection depth, quality of the Target Trace and to the degree of falsing. Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil) measures the background noise and establishes a threshold value of the EMF taken up by the ground. The software uses the ground balance threshold value in every calculation to determine the 'Signal' from the 'Noise'. Ground balancing in combination with the other machine parameters helps mitigate falsing. We "MUST" Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil) "EVERY TIME" we change the Search Mode or the Recovery Speed. Increasing or decreasing the EMF will negate the previous Ground Balance threshold value. Too much Sensitivity may cause falsing and a jumpy TID/VDI. Falsing may be mitigated by lowering the Sensitivity. Decrease the Sensitivity until the detector is quiet and the Target Trace clears up of spurious traces/plots. Decreasing the Sensitivity may improve separation, unmasking and reveal deeper artifacts. Minelab Manticore: Still plenty deep at lower sensitivity levels. Metal Detecting NWGA, Mar 20, 2023 th-cam.com/video/4zzIpz6eE9c/w-d-xo.html If you experience falsing or erratic TID/VDI make adjustments to the Recovery Speed. A low Recovery Speed increases the time between sampling, thus more EMF is radiated into the ground. A high Recovery Speed decreases the time between sampling, reducing the EMF that is radiated into the ground. If falsing persist after adjusting the Recovery Speed, Sensitivity, Ferrous Limits and Ground Balancing, switch to a different SMF Search Mode or to a single frequency. Long Press Noise Cancel. The longer you depress the Noise Cancel soft button, the more time the computer has to determine the most offending EMI frequency. Ferrous Limits not adjusted 'correctly' for your soil contamination level will cause falsing. Please keep this 'partial' list of the Manticore Best Practices in mind the next time the opportunity presents its self to test the Manticore. GL👨🦯HH
Ivan, any update on this issue? I see from the comments, the Minelab acolytes have descended on your channel to say you are the problem, not the machine. Not surprising, as this is what we saw with the Leakquinox, when I tried to warn people early on about the issues. Maybe the acolytes will only be satisfied if you hold the noise cancel for two hours. Seriously though, interested to hear if the issue was fixed.
I believe the reason he is getting flack is because there was no demonstration of the Sensitivity being decreased and switching from Tracking Ground Balance to Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil). If he only demonstrated these two features to the viewers people would be less up in arms. People are complaining about beach falsing, so there might be an issue with ground balancing. Tom Dankowski said to never use Tracking Ground Balance. If you do, check it often. I interpret that as the Tracking Ground Balance is not working as expected. Maybe there are other issues with the ground balancing besides Tracking GB?
@@pigeonbloodruby5330 I was mainly referring to the noise cancel. The people bellyaching about him doing it incorrectly are harping on needing to "hold it down" during the process. They clearly have never used or owned any other Minelab machine, because I know for at least two of the legacy machines (the Leakquinox and CTX) the noise cancel button only needs to be presseed once to initiate the function. Now it is true that you should hold the machine up while it does the noise cancel, and the CTX takes longer than the Nox, but if this is supposed to be a "new and improved" machine build, why the emphasis on needing to hold the button down or to wait for anything?? Or is this just more repackaged old tech?? As for ground balancing, I can tell you that there have been issues with the Leakquinox in this regard, mainly in certain mineral rich environments, or where there is a bed of highly mineralized rocks. There is a post I discuss this on with one of my videos, brought up by a detectorist who took the Nox out to the borreal forest. As soon as he described the issue, I told him the Nox could not be ground balanced to those conditions. He eventually got the engineering team and ML to answer to his issue, and they admitted that it was a ground balancing issue the machine could not overcome. But you can't have these types of discussions with ML acolytes and cheerleaders these days, because they see it as being negative towards the company. It's about being truthful and honest. I bought all my machines, I didn't receive any free detectors, and if I did, I'd still be sharing the truth, not like some of the "influencers" and "payold" types who beg for a machine, then only give favourable reviews. As a consumer, have a right to voice these issues, to warn others of them before they make the mistake of believing these machines are the be all end all. I see this TH-camr as attempting to do the same (to some degree) and immediately, all the ML acolyters are lining-up in droves to point out he's the problem, not ML machines. In their deluded mind, ML cannot do any wrong.
@@thebountyfisher The reason for everyone telling Manticore users to long press the Noise Cancel is because of what Tom Dankowski said. He said that the Manticore computer is monitoring all the channels and when given a longer sampling period, it can determine the most offending EMI channel.
Hi! That was the issue with the coil, I returned detector to the owner and he got a replacement. Now I am waiting when the Manticore will arrive, as I was ordering at as well.
@@followivankrause3673 Wow it was a defective coil. How did they determine that the coil was defective? I would like to test my Manticore coil if it's working as intended. Tks!
So you had a hard time with the direction of the screen protector, and im to believe that this machine is flawed because you arent sure how it works? 👍
Unfortunately we have all the same problem. I´m a beach hunter...i`m able to search only in 23-24 and only in beach mode underwater. When i use deep mode is even worst. I need to reduce sensitivity to 13-14 so..what deep??? I´m very angry with Minelab.
I’m having the same problem here on Australian beaches. What is the point of having all this “50% extra power” if you can’t use it 🤷♂️. Did you try to remove the ring from the connector like one person suggested? If so, has this helped? We need to get to the bottom of this and fix the issue. Otherwise Minelab need to come up with a solution!
Hello, can I make a suggestion, when dealing with difficult EMI, using Enhanced Audio can help. You will still hear chatter but targets will stand out to you more. It’s a great setting that would allow you to keep your sensitivity at around 24. Like you were using in this video. Instead of normal I would recommend trying it out next time 😊 “Enhanced Audio Theme has a similar Tone Modulation as the Normal audio theme has. But Weak detections like EMI chatter will remain audible, but it will have a modulated audio timbre that sounds more 'thin' or 'tinny' than stronger targets detected. This has the effect of suppressing EMI chatter, making it easier to listen 'through', it to hear non‐random signals that consistently repeat with each swing. Larger signals from strong/shallow targets will sound more 'robust'. This Audio Theme can also allow you to increase Sensitivity (in EMI‐limited locations) higher than would be possible using the Normal Audio Theme.” Take care from Canada
Ivan had a similar problem on my nox for ages I removed the small rubber in the connection between the controller and coil and now I can run it on max sensetivity with no problems .I think it's picking up problems from the connection .hope this helps
Is this the small red rubber ring inside the connector that screws the Coil cable to the head unit? If so what Is the best way to remove it and will this do any damage to the connection or head unit? Has anyone else tried removing this ring yet and has it helped with the sensitivity issues?
You didn’t noise cancel it properly. You’re supposed to hold the button down till it finds the right channel, don’t just push it once. It’s covered in the manual about noise cancel, also read when to use auto ground balance.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 it’s heavily mineralised farm land. CTX correctly id deeper targets when manti won’t and I did checked both machines on same deeper targets. I contacted minelab about that issue and they admitted to the problem and promised new software but I’m not sure if softwares can resolve this because nox iq was exactly the same lol
I have seen in other videos that they hold the button for noise cancel for a very very long time and it seems it approves performance(works with equinox to). Manticore have another problem with picking up nails on the leading edge of the coil and present them as non ferrous targets in the middle of the coil. Calabass digger has a video about that.
An inexperienced user using a complex machine equals not a good source of advice. Sell your Manti to someone who knows the difference between EMI and "False signals"
Thank you. I am using a complex detectors, like AKA Intronik, for instance, which is more difficult than Manticore. The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 You do not "Set" your ground balance, the ground balance setting is determined by the machine. You are not experienced enough to tell the difference from EMI and Iron falsing. You are calling it all "False signals" which is a nonsense phrase. The other five users that messaged you most likely are not in the same conditions as you are so trying to say its all the same is nonsense as well. I have a Manticore and have been using it just fine, I even got it running at 30 sensitivity. You do not have the experience to use a machine like this, so I suggest an Ace 250.
Lol, I already got the answer from the warranty service, that this Manticore is having defects and issues. Sorry, but your suggestion about ACE 250 sounds very funny, as I detect more than you and I was operating more machines than you during your lifetime. If you don't know me, then please, stop talking useless things.
@@followivankrause3673 Every company has problems with some of there detectors... metal detectors are sensitive pieces of equipment and a lot can go wrong.. no matter how many times you have to send it back they’ll get it right eventually lol
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@steves6823 Its not just new users. This machine is a bottle cap finder which is crazy at the price point. Sure you can tune them out but should that not already have been done in a stock program? I have a CTX3030 and love it outside of its cumbersome weight. Am looking at a new purchase this year and the Manticore made the list but I am now pretty much leaning towards the Deus II. I also have the Deus. XP has been downright amazing with upgrades where ML is shy of lackluster. Was Hoping the Manticore was gonna be a shot out of the park but but from reading and watching videos its just a CTX that was put on a diet and given some juice. For the price I can get a pinpointer with the Deus II that connects to the machine. Will keep watching and reading for a bit in hopes ML actually steps up to the plate on this one and corrects the issues. I have an Excalibur and an original Blue Sword which are both absolutely amazing detectors so I know what ML is capable of producing, it seems they just choose not to go the extra anymore.
Everyone getting carried away with the 2D tracking screen and the 50% more power,50%.i'll stick with the deus and legend,pretty sure the manticore will be as weatherproof as the 800 lol.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
Please... learn how to! Lower the sens, ground bal, i use minelab’s for decades. I own 4 of them. Metaldetecting over 42 years. If you show me a video where you did what you have to do. And its stil there then i believe you.. and,,, i am not a manticore fan! €2000,- machine and stil disposable. My First digital screen machine was the nox. The nox is a Good machine for beach, but the build quality is shit! And disposable! €1000,- sinds minelab is overtaken by codan.. it is standing already with one foot in the grave! So sad!
😆 Looks like you'll spend more time pushing buttons than actually doing any Metal Detecting 😝!!!! (My Nokta Makro Simplex can do the same job and alot easier to use!!!) Alot cheaper too!!!!😝😆😂!!! (Manticore?...💋 your 💰💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸 Goodbye 😭!!!!) 🙄😒😎🚬
@@followivankrause3673 The "Mantiwhore" runs about $1,600 U.S. Dollars here in Texas 🤠 🇺🇲..... For my money I want a machine that'll do it's basic, primary and simple job.... To alert me that there's something metal below my coil 🧐!!! All them Bells & Whistles just get in the way. Just because it costs more doesn't make it a better machine 😒. (Example: The Lexus is a Luxury Car Right?..... But it's still a damned Toyota!!! Get my point???) 😆😝
Silver Surfer Why feel the need to talk trash? If you don't want or can't afford a Manticore that's fine, but the fact is a Simplex is a true beginner's machine.
You might want to watch this. And I agree with this video test. But a point to note my Mars MD beats my legend on deep small gold targets but I do like my XP too :)
It's hard to think you know what your doing when your screen protector is on sideways
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Had the same thought! 🤭
What do you expect, he isn't in the USA !!!!
Oh wow ahahah
😂😂
I aslo fell for manticore hype but was very disappointed with the performance. I feel it is WAY over priced for what it actually does. I am pretty sure manticore will be collecting dust in many closets. They are also beginning to show up on marketplace. Will it detect? Yes. Is it worth $1500? Absolutely Not.
You’re exactly right!
I have the same problem with mine and forget about the 2d screen I have a piece of black tape covering my screen at the 2d part it’s worthless and just distracting, here’s when I knew it was bullshit, so my place sits on 10 acres and is from the 1800’s old farm, so I got what appeared to be a coin signal in the 2d screen a perfect small circle and good Id number so I dig and I dig and it turned out to be a 50 gal steel drum so that’s the last time I looked at the 2d screen
So tell me why again did I pay $2000 bucks for this $300 dollar machine?
To many Minelab fanboys out there kissing the ring in hopes of free shit I suspect
Been doing this over 30 years and used many detectors and the manticore has to be the biggest gimmick detector ever sold
What they did was produce a couple quality detectors like the CTX to get their name solid then rake the rest of us out of our money
Well I’m sticking with the legend much better machine and a 1/4 of the price
So I think I’ll make a video of the manticore at the end of my rifle range and see about putting a couple 5.56 rounds through it
THATS HOW MUCH THIS THING AGGRAVATED ME
And no one tell me it’s in the settings because I’ve done just about every combination possible to get this thing right
Now you guys that have no trash in your fields and just good targets it probably works fine AND SO WOULD EVERY OTHER DETECTOR, I wanted one to get through the trash like I thought a $2000 dollar detector should
If you guys quit sucking up to this company maybe JUST MAYBE they’ll make us a quality machine worth swinging and under $1000 bucks!!!
But I won’t hold my breath
Tip- GB detector first when using tracking GB. Why? Manticore as well as EQX line depending on soil mineralization levels can track slower than a lot of other models. You can do experiment if you wish and I think you will see.
And detecting the deeper stuff GB more important for higher quality signals achieved on targets.
By the looks of his screen protector placement I would not take any advice from him!😅
Don’t let purchasing a Minelabe Manticore put you off by people like this . Firstly I got a manticore in Malaysia and it’s been awesome on beach hunting , I used a Nox 800 with a 15 inch coil and got heaps of finds and at least 60 grams of 916 gold in 14 months , I am on my 4th gold ring , since getting the manticore in late December. It’s awesome , beret signal quality, picking up the smallest of metal signals in ridiculous depths , hitting coins at 20 plus inches . The lightest 916 gold ring , being 1.1 grams at 8 inches!, this is with a standard 11 inch coil , now I can’t wait to get the 15 inch coil on this detector. Don’t listed to people that talk BS
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
There shit too minelab means poor build quality iron digging and terrible on mineral sites
@tincantelephone your comet explains how little experience and knowledge you have. Another fanboy. This machine only works in neutral ground that’s it! Can’t handle difficult soil at all it’s a joke but what can you know when you haven’t got clue
Coins at 20 “ 😓
I always was already really impressed with coins at 10” ….even with machines that where made for raw depth …well done Minelab to bring out the Manticore while i am still learning my ctx 😂
First of all, put your mobile phone on airplane mode. D do a decent noise cancel, reduce your sensitivity. Read the manual. Pretty ridiculous to make such a statement when you are the cause yourself.
Lol, phone was on this mode.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 5 out of a few thousand, that's not too bad👍
@@delucrt1100 not too bad, true. But still, detector is worth 2000 EUR and everybody I know who purchased the Manticore in Baltics have the same issues. The same problem with the unit in Russia, so looks like the best Manticores has been sent to UK and USA.
Broken Coil, I had the same.. Struggling for more then 2 months😅
Ты на хрена лимиты железа то накрутил) сбрось на заводские настройки не морочь людям голову
i had the same problem on the beach,its very sparkey after useing quiet detectors it takes some getting use to allso the deep signals are all over the place hope minelab can quieten it down with a download,a bit dissapointing.
I found hundred of pieces of jewelleries with my nox...QUIET. This Manticore is screaming a lot to me. There must be something wrong
You must feel terrible with your new manticore not operating the way you want it to…..Here’s a few things I noticed watching your video that may help you:
1. Your lower ferrous limits setting was too close to the non-ferrous target line…your small hammered coin was showing up on your screen but your lower ferrous limits setting was partially masking it out.
2. It’s more beneficial to ground balance your machine after turning it on…do an auto ground balance (pump the ground). Don’t assume the ground auto tracking will “quickly” normalize your machine to your ground….it’s very gradual.
3. Just lower your sensitivity down a couple notches (22) or until the falsing stops or becomes less problematic..The manticore is still deep/sensitive with values above 20.
4. When doing a noise cancel, hold down the button continuously and let your machine find the cleanest EMI free channel. Let go of the button when your noise channel number stops changing.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 It's possible that your ground balance is defective. You didn't perform a proper ground balance and you didn't decrease the Sensitivity. Both of which spurred me to make suggestions to improve your situation. I learned that you have returned the detector for repairs. I will be following your situation to see how it turns out. What follows many not pertain to you.
Good luck with your repairs!
Listed below are a few examples of the BEST PRACTICES of how to operate the Minelab Manticore to reduce falsing. This is not a detailed explanation, nor do I cover different environmental scenarios, nor have I outlined the precedence of establishing the detectors parameters, all of which are critical for optimal detector performance, reduced falsing.
The coil radiates an electromagnetic force (EMF).
The Search Mode and the Recovery Speed control the amount of EMF that is radiated from the coil and into the ground. EMF energizes the ground which in turn has an affect on the Sensitivity, VDI/TID, detection depth, quality of the Target Trace and to the degree of falsing.
Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil) measures the background noise and establishes a threshold value of the EMF taken up by the ground. The software uses the ground balance threshold value in every calculation to determine the 'Signal' from the 'Noise'. Ground balancing in combination with the other machine parameters helps mitigate falsing.
We "MUST" Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil) "EVERY TIME" we change the Search Mode or the Recovery Speed. Increasing or decreasing the EMF will negate the previous Ground Balance threshold value.
Too much Sensitivity may cause falsing and a jumpy TID/VDI.
Falsing may be mitigated by lowering the Sensitivity.
Decrease the Sensitivity until the detector is quiet and the Target Trace clears up of spurious traces/plots.
Decreasing the Sensitivity may improve separation, unmasking and reveal deeper artifacts.
Minelab Manticore: Still plenty deep at lower sensitivity levels.
Metal Detecting NWGA, Mar 20, 2023
th-cam.com/video/4zzIpz6eE9c/w-d-xo.html
If you experience falsing or erratic TID/VDI make adjustments to the Recovery Speed.
A low Recovery Speed increases the time between sampling, thus more EMF is radiated into the ground.
A high Recovery Speed decreases the time between sampling, reducing the EMF that is radiated into the ground.
If falsing persist after adjusting the Recovery Speed, Sensitivity, Ferrous Limits and Ground Balancing, switch to a different SMF Search Mode or to a single frequency.
Long Press Noise Cancel. The longer you depress the Noise Cancel soft button, the more time the computer has to determine the most offending EMI frequency.
Ferrous Limits not adjusted 'correctly' for your soil contamination level will cause falsing.
Please keep this 'partial' list of the Manticore Best Practices in mind the next time the opportunity presents its self to test the Manticore.
GL👨🦯HH
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GB it don't use tracking
Ivan, any update on this issue? I see from the comments, the Minelab acolytes have descended on your channel to say you are the problem, not the machine. Not surprising, as this is what we saw with the Leakquinox, when I tried to warn people early on about the issues. Maybe the acolytes will only be satisfied if you hold the noise cancel for two hours. Seriously though, interested to hear if the issue was fixed.
I believe the reason he is getting flack is because there was no demonstration of the Sensitivity being decreased and switching from Tracking Ground Balance to Auto Ground Balance (pump the coil). If he only demonstrated these two features to the viewers people would be less up in arms.
People are complaining about beach falsing, so there might be an issue with ground balancing.
Tom Dankowski said to never use Tracking Ground Balance. If you do, check it often.
I interpret that as the Tracking Ground Balance is not working as expected.
Maybe there are other issues with the ground balancing besides Tracking GB?
@@pigeonbloodruby5330 I was mainly referring to the noise cancel. The people bellyaching about him doing it incorrectly are harping on needing to "hold it down" during the process. They clearly have never used or owned any other Minelab machine, because I know for at least two of the legacy machines (the Leakquinox and CTX) the noise cancel button only needs to be presseed once to initiate the function. Now it is true that you should hold the machine up while it does the noise cancel, and the CTX takes longer than the Nox, but if this is supposed to be a "new and improved" machine build, why the emphasis on needing to hold the button down or to wait for anything?? Or is this just more repackaged old tech?? As for ground balancing, I can tell you that there have been issues with the Leakquinox in this regard, mainly in certain mineral rich environments, or where there is a bed of highly mineralized rocks. There is a post I discuss this on with one of my videos, brought up by a detectorist who took the Nox out to the borreal forest. As soon as he described the issue, I told him the Nox could not be ground balanced to those conditions. He eventually got the engineering team and ML to answer to his issue, and they admitted that it was a ground balancing issue the machine could not overcome. But you can't have these types of discussions with ML acolytes and cheerleaders these days, because they see it as being negative towards the company. It's about being truthful and honest. I bought all my machines, I didn't receive any free detectors, and if I did, I'd still be sharing the truth, not like some of the "influencers" and "payold" types who beg for a machine, then only give favourable reviews. As a consumer, have a right to voice these issues, to warn others of them before they make the mistake of believing these machines are the be all end all. I see this TH-camr as attempting to do the same (to some degree) and immediately, all the ML acolyters are lining-up in droves to point out he's the problem, not ML machines. In their deluded mind, ML cannot do any wrong.
@@thebountyfisher The reason for everyone telling Manticore users to long press the Noise Cancel is because of what Tom Dankowski said. He said that the Manticore computer is monitoring all the channels and when given a longer sampling period, it can determine the most offending EMI channel.
Hi! That was the issue with the coil, I returned detector to the owner and he got a replacement.
Now I am waiting when the Manticore will arrive, as I was ordering at as well.
@@followivankrause3673 Wow it was a defective coil.
How did they determine that the coil was defective?
I would like to test my Manticore coil if it's working as intended.
Tks!
So you had a hard time with the direction of the screen protector, and im to believe that this machine is flawed because you arent sure how it works? 👍
Lol
Unfortunately we have all the same problem. I´m a beach hunter...i`m able to search only in 23-24 and only in beach mode underwater. When i use deep mode is even worst. I need to reduce sensitivity to 13-14 so..what deep??? I´m very angry with Minelab.
I’m having the same problem here on Australian beaches. What is the point of having all this “50% extra power” if you can’t use it 🤷♂️. Did you try to remove the ring from the connector like one person suggested? If so, has this helped? We need to get to the bottom of this and fix the issue. Otherwise Minelab need to come up with a solution!
Иван осваивает просторы англоязычной аудитории))
Hello, can I make a suggestion, when dealing with difficult EMI, using Enhanced Audio can help. You will still hear chatter but targets will stand out to you more. It’s a great setting that would allow you to keep your sensitivity at around 24. Like you were using in this video. Instead of normal I would recommend trying it out next time 😊
“Enhanced Audio Theme has a similar Tone Modulation as the Normal audio theme has. But Weak detections like EMI chatter will remain audible, but it will have a modulated audio timbre that sounds more 'thin' or 'tinny' than stronger targets detected. This has the effect of suppressing EMI chatter, making it easier to listen 'through', it to hear non‐random signals that consistently repeat with each swing. Larger signals from strong/shallow targets will sound more 'robust'. This Audio Theme can also allow you to increase Sensitivity (in EMI‐limited locations) higher than would be possible using the Normal Audio Theme.” Take care from Canada
Great, thank you, I will try it!
@@followivankrause3673 you’re welcome, I hope it helps some ☺️👍
The detector has been sent back to the Minelab to perform the warranty repairs.
I got the same Problems. I am not happy with the Maschine
Had same problem with nox 900 sold it after 2 weeks ..way better machine was equinox 800
Turn it off allterrain mode....
Terrane Mode Switch it to Beach
Ivan had a similar problem on my nox for ages I removed the small rubber in the connection between the controller and coil and now I can run it on max sensetivity with no problems .I think it's picking up problems from the connection .hope this helps
Wow, interesting experience!
Hey, do you mean you have removed rubber o-ring from a male-connector of a control unit?
I´ve noticed that this rubber stop the screwing. I recived to warning today of "coil disconnect"...do you think that could cause this problem?
Is this the small red rubber ring inside the connector that screws the Coil cable to the head unit? If so what Is the best way to remove it and will this do any damage to the connection or head unit? Has anyone else tried removing this ring yet and has it helped with the sensitivity issues?
You didn’t noise cancel it properly. You’re supposed to hold the button down till it finds the right channel, don’t just push it once. It’s covered in the manual about noise cancel, also read when to use auto ground balance.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 did you even try holding the button down?
Same issue here where ctx finding deep targets manticore calling it iron. For price tag and performance it’s a joke detector very disappointed
Interesting, what type of ground do you have?
@@followivankrause3673 it’s heavily mineralised farm land. CTX correctly id deeper targets when manti won’t and I did checked both machines on same deeper targets. I contacted minelab about that issue and they admitted to the problem and promised new software but I’m not sure if softwares can resolve this because nox iq was exactly the same lol
I have seen in other videos that they hold the button for noise cancel for a very very long time and it seems it approves performance(works with equinox to). Manticore have another problem with picking up nails on the leading edge of the coil and present them as non ferrous targets in the middle of the coil. Calabass digger has a video about that.
I have not watch this on yet. But maybe it will help. th-cam.com/video/X7-8IZGRwdk/w-d-xo.html
Switch your ground mode
An inexperienced user using a complex machine equals not a good source of advice. Sell your Manti to someone who knows the difference between EMI and "False signals"
Thank you. I am using a complex detectors, like AKA Intronik, for instance, which is more difficult than Manticore.
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
@@followivankrause3673 You do not "Set" your ground balance, the ground balance setting is determined by the machine. You are not experienced enough to tell the difference from EMI and Iron falsing. You are calling it all "False signals" which is a nonsense phrase. The other five users that messaged you most likely are not in the same conditions as you are so trying to say its all the same is nonsense as well. I have a Manticore and have been using it just fine, I even got it running at 30 sensitivity. You do not have the experience to use a machine like this, so I suggest an Ace 250.
Lol, I already got the answer from the warranty service, that this Manticore is having defects and issues. Sorry, but your suggestion about ACE 250 sounds very funny, as I detect more than you and I was operating more machines than you during your lifetime. If you don't know me, then please, stop talking useless things.
Ivan, then please explain why you cannot fit one rectangle of plastic over another?
Thanks for vid.
If you don't know how to put on the screen protector why are you trying to give advice on this detector?
Не рекомендовать видео с этого канала.👎
That doe snot look good at all.
😃😃😃😃🤑😎😎😎
Interesting.. let us all know what happens when you call minelab
The detector went back to the store for the warranty repairs.
@@followivankrause3673 Every company has problems with some of there detectors... metal detectors are sensitive pieces of equipment and a lot can go wrong.. no matter how many times you have to send it back they’ll get it right eventually lol
Ничего не понятно, но очень интересно)
Он говорит что прибор фонит, все цели не определены. Прибор не отстрить. У всех такая проблема.
I almost ordered a manticore last week but after viewing a few videos i changed my mind !
You changed your mind because one guy has trouble understanding how his machine works and failed to set it up properly , go buy a Garrett Ace 250 then
@@steves6823 I already have a AT Gold, a AT Max a Equinox 800 and a Deus 2, i would buy the Manticore if it's worth the money it cost ...
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
Anedotal evidence from new users doesn't mean sht , Minelab are NOT recalling machines or fixing your imagined fault
@@steves6823 Its not just new users. This machine is a bottle cap finder which is crazy at the price point. Sure you can tune them out but should that not already have been done in a stock program? I have a CTX3030 and love it outside of its cumbersome weight. Am looking at a new purchase this year and the Manticore made the list but I am now pretty much leaning towards the Deus II. I also have the Deus. XP has been downright amazing with upgrades where ML is shy of lackluster. Was Hoping the Manticore was gonna be a shot out of the park but but from reading and watching videos its just a CTX that was put on a diet and given some juice. For the price I can get a pinpointer with the Deus II that connects to the machine. Will keep watching and reading for a bit in hopes ML actually steps up to the plate on this one and corrects the issues. I have an Excalibur and an original Blue Sword which are both absolutely amazing detectors so I know what ML is capable of producing, it seems they just choose not to go the extra anymore.
Everyone getting carried away with the 2D tracking screen and the 50% more power,50%.i'll stick with the deus and legend,pretty sure the manticore will be as weatherproof as the 800 lol.
Are for real you don't have any clue what you are doing 😮
I have more than you think.
He doesn't know what he's doin.....lol
The problem is, that detector has issues and Minelab has to fix the issues. I got a messages from five Manticore users who experienced the same problem.
Please... learn how to! Lower the sens, ground bal, i use minelab’s for decades. I own 4 of them. Metaldetecting over 42 years. If you show me a video where you did what you have to do. And its stil there then i believe you.. and,,, i am not a manticore fan! €2000,- machine and stil disposable. My First digital screen machine was the nox. The nox is a Good machine for beach, but the build quality is shit! And disposable!
€1000,- sinds minelab is overtaken by codan.. it is standing already with one foot in the grave! So sad!
😆 Looks like you'll spend more time pushing buttons than actually doing any Metal Detecting 😝!!!! (My Nokta Makro Simplex can do the same job and alot easier to use!!!) Alot cheaper too!!!!😝😆😂!!! (Manticore?...💋 your 💰💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸💸 Goodbye 😭!!!!) 🙄😒😎🚬
Challenge accepted! Yeah, lots of problems with Manticore, that's not what you want to get for 1999 EUR!
@@followivankrause3673 The "Mantiwhore" runs about $1,600 U.S. Dollars here in Texas 🤠 🇺🇲..... For my money I want a machine that'll do it's basic, primary and simple job.... To alert me that there's something metal below my coil 🧐!!!
All them Bells & Whistles just get in the way. Just because it costs more doesn't make it a better machine 😒.
(Example: The Lexus is a Luxury Car Right?..... But it's still a damned Toyota!!! Get my point???) 😆😝
Yeah, you are right, man!
Silver Surfer Why feel the need to talk trash? If you don't want or can't afford a Manticore that's fine, but the fact is a Simplex is a true beginner's machine.
I can assure you, as makro and D2 user, the manticore will flat out find tiny gold deeper than any vlf. And thats just turn on and go for me.
Nice video young man deus 11 all the way. From sunny Cornwall UK
th-cam.com/video/DlmEzXqa4ng/w-d-xo.html
You might want to watch this. And I agree with this video test. But a point to note my Mars MD beats my legend on deep small gold targets but I do like my XP too :)
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